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Jarlihow do I start the Xen client / administration?00:01
Jarliso quite...00:16
glosoliJarli: maybe you use Quassel ? :D00:20
glosoliA stupid question, but maybe anyone knows how to add rooms to network in Quassel ?  hmwithout using Commands00:27
Jarliyou click join00:31
Jarlithen type the room name dont you00:31
Jarlibut I need the idiots guide to setting up a Xen VM on my kubuntu box...00:31
JarliIs there an idiots way to open a program in this OS?00:50
Kalidarnhmm01:29
Kalidarnwhy do i see01:29
Kalidarn+CLcfjnt #kubuntu-unregged 5:1001:29
SentynelKalidarn: it's the channel modes; see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml01:36
Kalidarnyeah but whats the unregged thing mean01:37
Kalidarnthe channel isn't registered with freenode?01:37
Kalidarnwhy not it's an official ubuntu channel01:37
Sentynelno it's a redirect01:37
Kalidarnoh.01:37
Kalidarnfor people not identified with nickserv?01:37
Sentynelin this case it's used by join throttle01:38
Kalidarnoh okay :P01:38
Kalidarni never join/part XD01:38
Sentynelif too many unregistered users join too quickly they're diverted to that overflow channel01:38
markitI've just read about firefox-kde-support being dropped, how can set file associations in a global way for firefox? It tries to open .zip with unzip instead of ark, and had no idea about dolphin. I've a ltsp installatio and need to do at system level01:42
OxDeadC0deis there a command to show the past X ways another command was called? ex: history make -n20 (show the last 20 invocations of make)02:43
OxDeadC0deoh, heh.. history | grep make..02:44
OxDeadC0deand to limit | tail -n 2002:46
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tehchezok so I messed up my video settings, I went into the settings manager and there was a new option, which let me select opengl as the renderer. Where can i find that conf file?06:53
tehchezi need to change it back to its original setting, its all screwed up, about 50px by 100px in the lower left corner of the screen is where my desktop now resides :) not a pretty picture06:54
tehchezanyone aware of the new opengl (experimental) option for rendering the window?07:05
tehchezor windows07:05
tehchezahh looks like its x1107:08
tehchezFound it! ~/.kde/env/qt-graphicssystem.sh change from opengl to native or raster :)07:43
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MircadiusHi all, I'm installing the latest Kubuntu to a dual boot environment. The grub entry for memtest is giving me a "error: too small lower memory" problem. Not sure where to ask for help. Any advice is appreciated.08:58
jason200hello, quick question where do i install plasma widgets?09:03
jason200never mind :)09:03
MircadiusHi all, working on a Kubuntu install and the grub memtest is giving me a "error: too small lower memory"  problem. Any advice is appreciated.09:09
noaXesshey all10:26
noaXessi'm working on a init script.. how can i increase verbosity to debug it? to show why it won't work?10:26
noaXesswhy it failed?10:26
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makafui_I'm having permission trouble10:49
Peace-!permission | makafui_10:55
ubottumakafui_: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions10:55
makafui_ubottu: i'm trying to open a file in the konsole and it keeps on telling me permission denied10:56
ubottumakafui_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:56
makafui_ubottu: what's a bot?10:56
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:56
AceKingDoes anyone know if Startech PCI soundcards are linux friendly? The built in sound on my MB stopped working and I want to get a cheap PCI card to replace it.10:59
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glosoliAnyone using Cairo Dock with Kubuntu ?13:03
Peace-glosoli: you can install it13:04
Peace-there is no problem the annoyin stuff it's the configuration13:04
glosoliPeace-: I am just curious how good it works13:04
Peace-but..13:04
glosoliPeace-: what do you mean annoyin configuration  ?13:04
glosoliPeace-: Some deep configuration ? Or User Interface based ones ?13:05
Peace-glosoli: bad shortcuts13:05
Peace-glosoli: btw i use this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/149576-3.jpeg13:05
glosoliPeace-: which one is better to run No OPen GL or with Open GLX ?13:05
glosoliGL''13:05
Peace-i have no problem with no opengl13:06
glosoliPeace-: what pro and cons for opengl ?13:06
Peace-instead with opengl i got some problems13:06
glosoliopengl is faster ?13:06
Peace-i guess yes13:06
glosoliPeace-: a bit strange that applet tooltip said welcome to Cairo Dock 2 while being 3 (on Precise)13:07
Peace-dunno13:08
Peace-i don'0t use cairo anymore13:08
glosoliPeace-: aaa there is the Icon Task Managerin your scren ?13:08
glosoliscreen''13:09
Peace-yep13:09
Peace-i have several layout13:09
Peace-glosoli: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/17/plasma-desktopJq4053.png13:10
glosolithat's a lot of13:11
glosoli;D13:11
BluesKajHiyas all13:12
glosoliHello13:12
glosoliPeace-: nah deleting cairo, too much everything in it :D13:12
glosoliAnyone knows what's the name for that widget or addon which adds that kinda like "Locally Integrated Menus" into windows titles or smth like that ?14:08
BluesKajglosoli,  "locally integrated menus" , please elaborate14:22
glosoliBluesKaj: Hmm that's firefox like menu button14:22
glosoliBluesKaj: you know that new way of Firefox showing menu ?14:23
BluesKajnope14:23
glosoliAh, gonna search in webupd8 maybe will find to show you :)14:23
BluesKajwhat menu exactly ..I'm confused14:23
glosoliBluesKaj: http://goo.gl/WRGLr aaa found it :)14:24
DoctorPepperhi guys !!14:26
BluesKajglosoli,  unfortunately I haven'r seen that option , i prefer the menubar14:27
BluesKajhi DoctorPepper14:27
glosoliDoctorPepper: hey :)14:27
glosoliBluesKaj: dunno, i kinda liek it  ;D saving my space14:27
DoctorPeppercan anyone help me please , i  am trying to get the ubuntu source package of  virtuoso to apply the fix for bug #85897014:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 858970 in virtuoso-opensource (Ubuntu) "Virtuoso 6.1.3 cause nepomuk encoding error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85897014:29
BluesKajglosoli,  well if you have it installed , then what's your issue?14:29
glosoliBluesKaj: I was searching for it a hour, now found it ;D14:30
DoctorPepperbut i cant  find the source package14:30
tsimpsonDoctorPepper: add the deb-src line to your sources and use "apt-get source <package name>" (no sudo) to download it14:35
tsimpsonthe deb-src line is the same as the normal deb http://.. line, but with "deb-src" instead of "deb"14:35
DoctorPepperi did it  but it could find the package14:36
tsimpsondid you run "sudo apt-get update" after?14:37
DoctorPeppernow its fine14:51
rtdoswhat's the difference between the locations /bin/zsh and /usr/bin/zsh ? which location should i select my shell from ?14:53
DarthFrogWhy do you have both?14:54
rtdosidaknow. just do i guess. what's the difference between the 2 locations?14:55
DarthFrogThe location doesn't really matter but not having two versions that might conflict might.14:55
rtdosthey both appear to be the same version but isn't there a difference between /usr/bin and /bin locations?14:59
DarthFrogOnly upon booting and in your path.15:00
rtdosone is just a mirror of the other?15:00
DarthFrogNo.15:00
rtdosisn't one like used for system commands and the other for everything else?15:01
rtdosor something like that?15:01
DarthFrog /bin contains system binaries.  /usr/bin contains user binaries.15:01
rtdosso i would want to use /usr/bin/zsh then ?15:02
DarthFrog though "usr" isn't short for user.  It's said to be a TLA for "Unix System Resources". :-)15:02
rtdosyea. took me awhile to figure that out. ;-)15:02
DarthFrogDoesn't matter really.  Are the two files symlinked?15:02
rtdosyes.15:02
DarthFrogOh, in that case, just ignore the whole shooting match.  There' s only one file on your system.15:03
rtdosoh ok.15:06
rtdosso which one should i select if they are not symlinked?15:06
rtdos*curious*15:06
DarthFrogA symlink has the second inode pointing back to the original inode.15:06
DarthFrogWhichever one has its path hard-coded into programs and scripts. :-)15:07
Sentynelshells are usually assumed to be in /bin15:08
rtdoshmmmm...ok. that makes sense. thanks. :)15:15
rtdosmy other question: what's the significant difference between tcsh and csh ?15:16
DarthFrogSentynel: Not necessarily.  And the shell is specified on the first line of an executable script.  And zsh is not a standard shell.15:16
SentynelDarthFrog: a quick check of shell packages shows /bin for all the ones I looked at, and it's certainly the convention I'm used to15:21
DarthFrogSentynel: Yes, I agree.  I have seen other shells in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, though.15:23
DarthFrog /bin is the logical location.15:24
DarthFrogrtdos:  /usr/local/bin are for binaries that you install outside the system's packaging system.  i.e. perhaps ones you compile yourself.15:25
rtdosah now that makes complete total sense!15:25
DarthFrogSome distros use /opt instead of /usr/local.  If a system has both /opt and /usr/local file structures, it's a dog's breakfast. :-)15:32
glosoliwhat's the package for making GTK apps look native ?15:37
BluesKajglosoli,  do you mean native to gtk or kde ?16:03
toxihey, i'm currently on kubuntu 12.04 and telepathy didn't connect to icq network. anybody knows that problem?16:05
BluesKajtoxi,  ask in #ubuntu+1 , they also handle kubuntu 12.04 questions there'16:07
toxiBluesKaj: thank you, handling this.16:08
glosoliBluesKaj: to make them look native in KDE16:09
BluesKajglosoli,  maybe this , http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=10374116:12
dankeuphello.... I have the problem with my Kubuntu 11.10 in Laptop Asus K53E Intgel Core i5 6GB RAM... when laptop lid is closed go to Sleep, but when I open never came back...16:24
GirlyGirldankeup: press power after openning?16:24
dankeupGirlyGirl no is a option, I do that but don't come back, I do Ctrl+alt+f1 and is like freze16:27
dankeupOnly I can turn off with the power button16:28
GirlyGirldankeup: Is the hdd being used on wakeup?16:28
dankeupyes16:28
dankeupGirlyGirl I use kernel 3.0.0-16 that can be a problem with kubuntu and the driver of this lap?16:31
GirlyGirldankeup: Try updating or testing the beta of 12.0416:32
dankeupGirlyGirl I need upgrade to 3.2?16:32
GirlyGirldankeup: I really don't know I've had issues with hibernate before but never with sleep16:33
almoxarifeI did not have issues with -16 kernel, -18 yes, but I don't believe it was related to kde16:33
GirlyGirldankeup: Is this a random problem or does it always happen?16:33
dankeupall the time16:33
dankeupI test the Ubuntu 12.04 and was the same16:34
GirlyGirldankeup: I think you should file a bug on that then16:36
dankeupGirlyGirl: I look and all i fine16:37
dankeupGirlyGirl: I have pm.suspend.log16:38
glosoliis there any way Google Chrome to look native with Kubuntu ? fonts and etc seems out of order16:40
GirlyGirlglosoli: There are some kde themes for it ... I think chrome doesn't look exacly native even in gnome16:41
glosoliGirlyGirl: it looked native enough for me in gnome hmm anyway, gonna search for these themes then, the main case are fonts looking bad16:41
GirlyGirlglosoli: Try the use kde fonts in gtk apps setting in system settings > Application Appearence > Fonts16:42
glosoliit seems like already set "USe my KDE fonts in GTK+ applications"16:43
GirlyGirlglosoli: Don't really know then. Must you really use chrome? try Opera and see if that works for you ... it uses qt or gtk depending on your de16:44
glosoliGirlyGirl: Thanks for suggestions, but I prefer only Chrome16:45
GirlyGirlglosoli: Did chrome just stop working ... and are fonts ok in other apps ... gtk ones I mean16:47
glosoliGirlyGirl: hmm, audacious looks ugly and works not properly tearing its' gui, probably it's time to go to ubuntu+1  to asks the people who use precise if its' precise problem16:48
GirlyGirlglosoli: In 12.04, gtk3 (gnome3) integration is present , in 11.10 only gtk 2 integrates with kde16:49
glosoliGirlyGirl: Audacious seems like GTK2 app, which doesn't seem to integrate properly16:50
GirlyGirlglosoli: I have precise, but I'm on Windows 8 right now so can't test ... besides I like to stay qt only16:50
glosoliGirlyGirl: no problem :)16:50
Peace-12.04 => #ubuntu+116:51
glosoliPeace-: asked there already, the main case was to make sure if things in 11.10 look good16:51
GirlyGirlPeace-:  Any #ubuntu+2 for 12.10 ? (just joking)16:52
glosoli:D16:52
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DoctorPepperhi guys !!!17:31
DoctorPeppercan  anyone please help me17:31
bazhangwith?17:32
DoctorPepperi have a issue trying build virtuoso17:32
DoctorPepper for dpkg  build package17:33
tsimpsonDoctorPepper: did you install the build dependencies?17:34
DoctorPepperThe following packages have unmet dependencies:17:34
DoctorPepper  cli-common-dev: Depends: mono-devel (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed. or   strong-name-tool which is a virtual package.17:34
tsimpsonsudo apt-get build-dep <package>17:35
DoctorPeppertsimpson:  i get the message i just posted17:36
tsimpsontry installing mono-devel manually first17:37
tsimpsonyou may get a better error message17:37
Avihayhow do you ask apt-get for the source package?17:39
tsimpsonAvihay: apt-get source <package>17:39
tsimpson(no sudo)17:39
Avihaythx17:40
DoctorPeppertsimpson:  thanks17:40
_manash_hello18:14
ronnocHi all. There used to be a plasmoid to toggle desktop effects on / off. Anyone know of it, or if it's still around?18:53
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georgelappieshi all, in Libre office the tool tips (bubbles that appear when you hold your mouse over something for second or so) have a dark drey background and the text in the bubble is black. Is there some way to make the text white or the bubbles the same as the others in kde?18:56
georgelappiesgrey sorry not drey18:56
tsimpsonronnoc: not sure if there is a plasmoid, but Alt+Shift+F12 is the default shortcut18:58
georgelappiesmmm tested it with gvim as well now, looks like it is all gtk apps?19:00
ronnoctsimpson: thx. I do remember that. A long time ago (maybe 4.4 days?) there used to be a 'rocker-switch' type plasmoid. I'll keep looking.19:00
tsimpsongeorgelappies: from System Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance19:01
tsimpsonronnoc: maybe there's one on kde-apps.org19:01
ronnocYea I thought I looked there. No biggie, I just thought it was one of the few plasmoids worth installing. lol.19:02
georgelappiestsimpson: I can choose there between oxygen-gtk and raleigh as well as the font then. I dont see a place to customise oxygen-gtk there ?19:02
tsimpsonoxygen-gtk uses the oxygen scheme, which you can change from the colours section19:04
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georgelappiesseems it is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/82011819:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 820118 in LibreOffice Productivity Suite "After upgrade to KDE 4.7 all tooltips in Libre Office are black on black" [Low,Confirmed]19:43
georgelappieslol 3 seconds appart :)19:43
DoctorPepperis any of the kubuntu in here ?20:02
DoctorPepperis any of the kubuntu devs in here ?20:02
liudasDoctorPepper: try kubuntu-dev channel20:04
liudasDoctorPepper: #kubuntu-devel20:07
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witchytahi everybody20:26
witchytai need help to update my system. i install from a live cd (kubuntu oneiric)20:29
BluesKaj!update | witchyta_20:37
ubottuwitchyta_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade20:37
Mamarokwitchyta_: and?20:37
MamarokBluesKaj: undating, not upgrading, he already has Oneiric apparently20:38
Mamarokwitchyta_: you need to be more precise in your questions20:38
BluesKajMamarok, interesting to see what he really means20:40
Mamarokyep20:40
Mamarokswinc there is no upgrading from Oneiric as of now20:40
Mamaroksince*20:41
witchyta_i just finish kubuntu installation but but synaptic is not install20:41
witchyta_today20:41
Mamarokwell, synaptic is not a KDE application20:41
BluesKaji meant update , the bot assumed I mean upgrade20:41
Mamarokthere is muon20:41
wifioregonhi.  I had someone that had their video card go out, so they replaced the new video card..now when they load kubuntu, it goes into text mode and wont goto kde no matter what.  Is there a way to install the new video card without a reinstall? Do I need to boot to an ubuntu disc?20:42
BluesKajthe update factoid needs to be changed ,20:43
Mamaroktrue20:43
BluesKajwifioregon,  is the new card the same make as the old one20:44
Mamarokwitchyta_: did you find Muon? Else start the system settings, there you should see an option for updating packages20:44
wifioregonno its not20:44
Mamarokcalled "Software management"20:44
wifioregonBluesKaj:  Its not the same make. Do I need to do a reinstall?20:45
georgelappies_upgrading to libreoffice3.5 fixed the tooltip bug :)20:45
BluesKajwifioregon,  you need a new driver for the new card20:46
BluesKajnew =different20:46
wifioregonBluesKaj: How do I do that?20:46
wifioregonI'm only able to access text mode20:46
BluesKajwifioregon,  can you get to a tty prompt on said pc ?20:47
witchyta_ok20:47
Mamarokwifioregon: how about telling what card it is?20:47
witchyta_mamarok: ok20:47
Mamarokwitchyta_: did you find it?20:47
wifioregonwifioregon:  Shoot. I'm trying to boot to an ubuntu disc right now. (I don't have kubuntu)20:47
wifioregonits taking FOREVER20:47
witchyta_no20:47
Mamarokwitchyta_: in the menu you have an option called "System settings"20:48
Mamarokclick there20:48
witchyta_i open it20:49
Mamarokwitchyta_: there is an option called "Software management"20:49
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Guest14504hola20:49
MamarokGuest14504: English, please :)20:50
witchyta_mamarok :"Sofware management " not found in systeme settings20:50
Mamarokwitchyta_: really? what Kubuntu version do you have?20:50
Mamarokit's written on the live CD20:50
witchyta_11.10 oneiric20:51
Mamarokthen you should definitely have that option in the system settings20:51
witchyta_it's live cd20:51
Mamarok)I know, but you said you installed it, no?20:52
witchyta_yes i install it from i live cd20:52
Mamarokor do you just run the live CD?20:52
witchyta_i run the live cd and after installed it20:53
MamarokOK, so now you run Kubuntu 11.10, not from the live CD, then you should have that option in the System settings20:53
Mamarokmaybe you need to scroll down20:53
Mamarokit is at the bottom in System Administration20:54
wifioregonokay so the new video card is Nvidia Corp NV6 VANTA/VANTA.. how do I install it? Also is that supported by linux?20:56
witchyta_Mamaro:i found muon in syteme but it not work , i have bug message20:56
Mamarokwitchyta_: and what error message is that?20:57
witchyta_Muon Sofware center closed unexpectedly20:58
Mamarokoh, that shouldn't happen20:59
Mamaroktry starting it again20:59
witchyta_it's still the same when i retry21:00
Mamarokwitchyta_: then we will try from the konsole: type Alt+F2 and type: konsole21:01
Mamarokthat should open the konsole21:01
witchyta_ok i do it21:01
witchyta_konsole is open21:02
Mamarokwitchyta_: type: sudo apt-get update21:02
Mamarokthat will do an update of your software sources21:02
Mamarokit will ask you your password21:02
witchyta_i do it21:03
Mamarokonce that list is finished you type: sudo apt-get upgrade21:03
Mamarokthat will suggest quite a few packages to install, just accept with y21:04
witchyta_ok now it work properly. i have to download  250 Mo updates files21:05
Mamarokwell, yes, Oneiric came out 5 months ago, so there are quite some updates21:06
Mamarokwitchyta_: muon is the package manager for Kubuntu, maybe it will also get fixed with these updates21:07
witchyta_Mamarok : thank you21:07
Mamarokwitchyta_: you are welcome :)21:08
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witchyta_can i use the same way to install softwares, i need vlc on my kubuntu21:09
Mamarokwitchyta_: yes, of course21:09
Mamaroksudo apt-get install vlc21:09
wifioregonI thought its sudo apt-get install vlc-nox21:09
Mamarokwifioregon: why?21:09
Mamarokwhy would he install that without X support?21:10
wifioregonjust thought it was21:10
wifioregonoh vlc-nox doesn't have windows X support21:10
Mamarokwell, no21:10
jrhello21:28
jranybody have any problems staying connected to a wireless router21:29
Deckard_25I heard the bad news about firefox KDE integration, does it mean it will look like win95 app?21:29
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BluesKajwifioregon, if you can get to a tty prompt in the pc with the new graphics card , sudo apt get install nvidia-173 , then sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx21:43
BluesKajerr sudi apt-get21:45
phoenix_firebrdsudi?21:45
BluesKajoops again , sudo21:45
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd,  yeah sudi for sudi arabia :)_21:46
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj:  ha ha ha21:46
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osaka_bondagehi22:50
drtwoxHi all. Where is the correct place to report a major bug in the Precise Beta? Can I seek help here?23:10
asfyxiadrtwox: you can discuss them on the #ubuntu+1 channel. For bugs you can report them on Launchpad.23:16
drtwoxThanks asfyxia. That applies to Kubuntu too?23:16
asfyxiaI guess so ;-)23:17
asfyxiadrtwox: I had to scroll back a lot, but you can also start a discussion at #kubuntu-devel, there the devs are present. Unless they are enjoying a nice movie, but that's only human, I guess ;-)23:20
drtwoxThanks again asfyxia. I'll try those.23:35

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