[00:01] <Jarli> how do I start the Xen client / administration?
[00:16] <Jarli> so quite...
[00:20] <glosoli> Jarli: maybe you use Quassel ? :D
[00:27] <glosoli> A stupid question, but maybe anyone knows how to add rooms to network in Quassel ?  hmwithout using Commands
[00:31] <Jarli> you click join
[00:31] <Jarli> then type the room name dont you
[00:31] <Jarli> but I need the idiots guide to setting up a Xen VM on my kubuntu box...
[00:50] <Jarli> Is there an idiots way to open a program in this OS?
[01:29] <Kalidarn> hmm
[01:29] <Kalidarn> why do i see
[01:29] <Kalidarn> +CLcfjnt #kubuntu-unregged 5:10
[01:36] <Sentynel> Kalidarn: it's the channel modes; see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[01:37] <Kalidarn> yeah but whats the unregged thing mean
[01:37] <Kalidarn> the channel isn't registered with freenode?
[01:37] <Kalidarn> why not it's an official ubuntu channel
[01:37] <Sentynel> no it's a redirect
[01:37] <Kalidarn> oh.
[01:37] <Kalidarn> for people not identified with nickserv?
[01:38] <Sentynel> in this case it's used by join throttle
[01:38] <Kalidarn> oh okay :P
[01:38] <Kalidarn> i never join/part XD
[01:38] <Sentynel> if too many unregistered users join too quickly they're diverted to that overflow channel
[01:42] <markit> I've just read about firefox-kde-support being dropped, how can set file associations in a global way for firefox? It tries to open .zip with unzip instead of ark, and had no idea about dolphin. I've a ltsp installatio and need to do at system level
[02:43] <OxDeadC0de> is there a command to show the past X ways another command was called? ex: history make -n20 (show the last 20 invocations of make)
[02:44] <OxDeadC0de> oh, heh.. history | grep make..
[02:46] <OxDeadC0de> and to limit | tail -n 20
[06:53] <tehchez> ok so I messed up my video settings, I went into the settings manager and there was a new option, which let me select opengl as the renderer. Where can i find that conf file?
[06:54] <tehchez> i need to change it back to its original setting, its all screwed up, about 50px by 100px in the lower left corner of the screen is where my desktop now resides :) not a pretty picture
[07:05] <tehchez> anyone aware of the new opengl (experimental) option for rendering the window?
[07:05] <tehchez> or windows
[07:08] <tehchez> ahh looks like its x11
[07:43] <tehchez> Found it! ~/.kde/env/qt-graphicssystem.sh change from opengl to native or raster :)
[08:58] <Mircadius> Hi all, I'm installing the latest Kubuntu to a dual boot environment. The grub entry for memtest is giving me a "error: too small lower memory" problem. Not sure where to ask for help. Any advice is appreciated.
[09:03] <jason200> hello, quick question where do i install plasma widgets?
[09:03] <jason200> never mind :)
[09:09] <Mircadius> Hi all, working on a Kubuntu install and the grub memtest is giving me a "error: too small lower memory"  problem. Any advice is appreciated.
[10:26] <noaXess> hey all
[10:26] <noaXess> i'm working on a init script.. how can i increase verbosity to debug it? to show why it won't work?
[10:26] <noaXess> why it failed?
[10:49] <makafui_> I'm having permission trouble
[10:55] <Peace-> !permission | makafui_
[10:56] <makafui_> ubottu: i'm trying to open a file in the konsole and it keeps on telling me permission denied
[10:56] <makafui_> ubottu: what's a bot?
[10:59] <AceKing> Does anyone know if Startech PCI soundcards are linux friendly? The built in sound on my MB stopped working and I want to get a cheap PCI card to replace it.
[13:03] <glosoli> Anyone using Cairo Dock with Kubuntu ?
[13:04] <Peace-> glosoli: you can install it
[13:04] <Peace-> there is no problem the annoyin stuff it's the configuration
[13:04] <glosoli> Peace-: I am just curious how good it works
[13:04] <Peace-> but..
[13:04] <glosoli> Peace-: what do you mean annoyin configuration  ?
[13:05] <glosoli> Peace-: Some deep configuration ? Or User Interface based ones ?
[13:05] <Peace-> glosoli: bad shortcuts
[13:05] <Peace-> glosoli: btw i use this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/149576-3.jpeg
[13:05] <glosoli> Peace-: which one is better to run No OPen GL or with Open GLX ?
[13:05] <glosoli> GL''
[13:06] <Peace-> i have no problem with no opengl
[13:06] <glosoli> Peace-: what pro and cons for opengl ?
[13:06] <Peace-> instead with opengl i got some problems
[13:06] <glosoli> opengl is faster ?
[13:06] <Peace-> i guess yes
[13:07] <glosoli> Peace-: a bit strange that applet tooltip said welcome to Cairo Dock 2 while being 3 (on Precise)
[13:08] <Peace-> dunno
[13:08] <Peace-> i don'0t use cairo anymore
[13:08] <glosoli> Peace-: aaa there is the Icon Task Managerin your scren ?
[13:09] <glosoli> screen''
[13:09] <Peace-> yep
[13:09] <Peace-> i have several layout
[13:10] <Peace-> glosoli: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/17/plasma-desktopJq4053.png
[13:11] <glosoli> that's a lot of
[13:11] <glosoli> ;D
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:12] <glosoli> Hello
[13:12] <glosoli> Peace-: nah deleting cairo, too much everything in it :D
[14:08] <glosoli> Anyone knows what's the name for that widget or addon which adds that kinda like "Locally Integrated Menus" into windows titles or smth like that ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> glosoli,  "locally integrated menus" , please elaborate
[14:22] <glosoli> BluesKaj: Hmm that's firefox like menu button
[14:23] <glosoli> BluesKaj: you know that new way of Firefox showing menu ?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> nope
[14:23] <glosoli> Ah, gonna search in webupd8 maybe will find to show you :)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> what menu exactly ..I'm confused
[14:24] <glosoli> BluesKaj: http://goo.gl/WRGLr aaa found it :)
[14:26] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!
[14:27] <BluesKaj> glosoli,  unfortunately I haven'r seen that option , i prefer the menubar
[14:27] <BluesKaj> hi DoctorPepper
[14:27] <glosoli> DoctorPepper: hey :)
[14:27] <glosoli> BluesKaj: dunno, i kinda liek it  ;D saving my space
[14:29] <DoctorPepper> can anyone help me please , i  am trying to get the ubuntu source package of  virtuoso to apply the fix for bug #858970
[14:29] <BluesKaj> glosoli,  well if you have it installed , then what's your issue?
[14:30] <glosoli> BluesKaj: I was searching for it a hour, now found it ;D
[14:30] <DoctorPepper> but i cant  find the source package
[14:35] <tsimpson> DoctorPepper: add the deb-src line to your sources and use "apt-get source <package name>" (no sudo) to download it
[14:35] <tsimpson> the deb-src line is the same as the normal deb http://.. line, but with "deb-src" instead of "deb"
[14:36] <DoctorPepper> i did it  but it could find the package
[14:37] <tsimpson> did you run "sudo apt-get update" after?
[14:51] <DoctorPepper> now its fine
[14:53] <rtdos> what's the difference between the locations /bin/zsh and /usr/bin/zsh ? which location should i select my shell from ?
[14:54] <DarthFrog> Why do you have both?
[14:55] <rtdos> idaknow. just do i guess. what's the difference between the 2 locations?
[14:55] <DarthFrog> The location doesn't really matter but not having two versions that might conflict might.
[14:59] <rtdos> they both appear to be the same version but isn't there a difference between /usr/bin and /bin locations?
[15:00] <DarthFrog> Only upon booting and in your path.
[15:00] <rtdos> one is just a mirror of the other?
[15:00] <DarthFrog> No.
[15:01] <rtdos> isn't one like used for system commands and the other for everything else?
[15:01] <rtdos> or something like that?
[15:01] <DarthFrog>  /bin contains system binaries.  /usr/bin contains user binaries.
[15:02] <rtdos> so i would want to use /usr/bin/zsh then ?
[15:02] <DarthFrog>  though "usr" isn't short for user.  It's said to be a TLA for "Unix System Resources". :-)
[15:02] <rtdos> yea. took me awhile to figure that out. ;-)
[15:02] <DarthFrog> Doesn't matter really.  Are the two files symlinked?
[15:02] <rtdos> yes.
[15:03] <DarthFrog> Oh, in that case, just ignore the whole shooting match.  There' s only one file on your system.
[15:06] <rtdos> oh ok.
[15:06] <rtdos> so which one should i select if they are not symlinked?
[15:06] <rtdos> *curious*
[15:06] <DarthFrog> A symlink has the second inode pointing back to the original inode.
[15:07] <DarthFrog> Whichever one has its path hard-coded into programs and scripts. :-)
[15:08] <Sentynel> shells are usually assumed to be in /bin
[15:15] <rtdos> hmmmm...ok. that makes sense. thanks. :)
[15:16] <rtdos> my other question: what's the significant difference between tcsh and csh ?
[15:16] <DarthFrog> Sentynel: Not necessarily.  And the shell is specified on the first line of an executable script.  And zsh is not a standard shell.
[15:21] <Sentynel> DarthFrog: a quick check of shell packages shows /bin for all the ones I looked at, and it's certainly the convention I'm used to
[15:23] <DarthFrog> Sentynel: Yes, I agree.  I have seen other shells in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, though.
[15:24] <DarthFrog>  /bin is the logical location.
[15:25] <DarthFrog> rtdos:  /usr/local/bin are for binaries that you install outside the system's packaging system.  i.e. perhaps ones you compile yourself.
[15:25] <rtdos> ah now that makes complete total sense!
[15:32] <DarthFrog> Some distros use /opt instead of /usr/local.  If a system has both /opt and /usr/local file structures, it's a dog's breakfast. :-)
[15:37] <glosoli> what's the package for making GTK apps look native ?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> glosoli,  do you mean native to gtk or kde ?
[16:05] <toxi> hey, i'm currently on kubuntu 12.04 and telepathy didn't connect to icq network. anybody knows that problem?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> toxi,  ask in #ubuntu+1 , they also handle kubuntu 12.04 questions there'
[16:08] <toxi> BluesKaj: thank you, handling this.
[16:09] <glosoli> BluesKaj: to make them look native in KDE
[16:12] <BluesKaj> glosoli,  maybe this , http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=103741
[16:24] <dankeup> hello.... I have the problem with my Kubuntu 11.10 in Laptop Asus K53E Intgel Core i5 6GB RAM... when laptop lid is closed go to Sleep, but when I open never came back...
[16:24] <GirlyGirl> dankeup: press power after openning?
[16:27] <dankeup> GirlyGirl no is a option, I do that but don't come back, I do Ctrl+alt+f1 and is like freze
[16:28] <dankeup> Only I can turn off with the power button
[16:28] <GirlyGirl> dankeup: Is the hdd being used on wakeup?
[16:28] <dankeup> yes
[16:31] <dankeup> GirlyGirl I use kernel 3.0.0-16 that can be a problem with kubuntu and the driver of this lap?
[16:32] <GirlyGirl> dankeup: Try updating or testing the beta of 12.04
[16:32] <dankeup> GirlyGirl I need upgrade to 3.2?
[16:33] <GirlyGirl> dankeup: I really don't know I've had issues with hibernate before but never with sleep
[16:33] <almoxarife> I did not have issues with -16 kernel, -18 yes, but I don't believe it was related to kde
[16:33] <GirlyGirl> dankeup: Is this a random problem or does it always happen?
[16:33] <dankeup> all the time
[16:34] <dankeup> I test the Ubuntu 12.04 and was the same
[16:36] <GirlyGirl> dankeup: I think you should file a bug on that then
[16:37] <dankeup> GirlyGirl: I look and all i fine
[16:38] <dankeup> GirlyGirl: I have pm.suspend.log
[16:40] <glosoli> is there any way Google Chrome to look native with Kubuntu ? fonts and etc seems out of order
[16:41] <GirlyGirl> glosoli: There are some kde themes for it ... I think chrome doesn't look exacly native even in gnome
[16:41] <glosoli> GirlyGirl: it looked native enough for me in gnome hmm anyway, gonna search for these themes then, the main case are fonts looking bad
[16:42] <GirlyGirl> glosoli: Try the use kde fonts in gtk apps setting in system settings > Application Appearence > Fonts
[16:43] <glosoli> it seems like already set "USe my KDE fonts in GTK+ applications"
[16:44] <GirlyGirl> glosoli: Don't really know then. Must you really use chrome? try Opera and see if that works for you ... it uses qt or gtk depending on your de
[16:45] <glosoli> GirlyGirl: Thanks for suggestions, but I prefer only Chrome
[16:47] <GirlyGirl> glosoli: Did chrome just stop working ... and are fonts ok in other apps ... gtk ones I mean
[16:48] <glosoli> GirlyGirl: hmm, audacious looks ugly and works not properly tearing its' gui, probably it's time to go to ubuntu+1  to asks the people who use precise if its' precise problem
[16:49] <GirlyGirl> glosoli: In 12.04, gtk3 (gnome3) integration is present , in 11.10 only gtk 2 integrates with kde
[16:50] <glosoli> GirlyGirl: Audacious seems like GTK2 app, which doesn't seem to integrate properly
[16:50] <GirlyGirl> glosoli: I have precise, but I'm on Windows 8 right now so can't test ... besides I like to stay qt only
[16:50] <glosoli> GirlyGirl: no problem :)
[16:51] <Peace-> 12.04 => #ubuntu+1
[16:51] <glosoli> Peace-: asked there already, the main case was to make sure if things in 11.10 look good
[16:52] <GirlyGirl> Peace-:  Any #ubuntu+2 for 12.10 ? (just joking)
[16:52] <glosoli> :D
[17:31] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[17:31] <DoctorPepper> can  anyone please help me
[17:32] <bazhang> with?
[17:32] <DoctorPepper> i have a issue trying build virtuoso
[17:33] <DoctorPepper>  for dpkg  build package
[17:34] <tsimpson> DoctorPepper: did you install the build dependencies?
[17:34] <DoctorPepper> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:34] <DoctorPepper>   cli-common-dev: Depends: mono-devel (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed. or   strong-name-tool which is a virtual package.
[17:35] <tsimpson> sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[17:36] <DoctorPepper> tsimpson:  i get the message i just posted
[17:37] <tsimpson> try installing mono-devel manually first
[17:37] <tsimpson> you may get a better error message
[17:39] <Avihay> how do you ask apt-get for the source package?
[17:39] <tsimpson> Avihay: apt-get source <package>
[17:39] <tsimpson> (no sudo)
[17:40] <Avihay> thx
[17:40] <DoctorPepper> tsimpson:  thanks
[18:14] <_manash_> hello
[18:53] <ronnoc> Hi all. There used to be a plasmoid to toggle desktop effects on / off. Anyone know of it, or if it's still around?
[18:56] <georgelappies> hi all, in Libre office the tool tips (bubbles that appear when you hold your mouse over something for second or so) have a dark drey background and the text in the bubble is black. Is there some way to make the text white or the bubbles the same as the others in kde?
[18:56] <georgelappies> grey sorry not drey
[18:58] <tsimpson> ronnoc: not sure if there is a plasmoid, but Alt+Shift+F12 is the default shortcut
[19:00] <georgelappies> mmm tested it with gvim as well now, looks like it is all gtk apps?
[19:00] <ronnoc> tsimpson: thx. I do remember that. A long time ago (maybe 4.4 days?) there used to be a 'rocker-switch' type plasmoid. I'll keep looking.
[19:01] <tsimpson> georgelappies: from System Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance
[19:01] <tsimpson> ronnoc: maybe there's one on kde-apps.org
[19:02] <ronnoc> Yea I thought I looked there. No biggie, I just thought it was one of the few plasmoids worth installing. lol.
[19:02] <georgelappies> tsimpson: I can choose there between oxygen-gtk and raleigh as well as the font then. I dont see a place to customise oxygen-gtk there ?
[19:04] <tsimpson> oxygen-gtk uses the oxygen scheme, which you can change from the colours section
[19:43] <georgelappies> seems it is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/820118
[19:43] <georgelappies> lol 3 seconds appart :)
[20:02] <DoctorPepper> is any of the kubuntu in here ?
[20:02] <DoctorPepper> is any of the kubuntu devs in here ?
[20:04] <liudas> DoctorPepper: try kubuntu-dev channel
[20:07] <liudas> DoctorPepper: #kubuntu-devel
[20:26] <witchyta> hi everybody
[20:29] <witchyta> i need help to update my system. i install from a live cd (kubuntu oneiric)
[20:37] <BluesKaj> !update | witchyta_
[20:37] <Mamarok> witchyta_: and?
[20:38] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: undating, not upgrading, he already has Oneiric apparently
[20:38] <Mamarok> witchyta_: you need to be more precise in your questions
[20:40] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, interesting to see what he really means
[20:40] <Mamarok> yep
[20:40] <Mamarok> swinc there is no upgrading from Oneiric as of now
[20:41] <Mamarok> since*
[20:41] <witchyta_> i just finish kubuntu installation but but synaptic is not install
[20:41] <witchyta_> today
[20:41] <Mamarok> well, synaptic is not a KDE application
[20:41] <BluesKaj> i meant update , the bot assumed I mean upgrade
[20:41] <Mamarok> there is muon
[20:42] <wifioregon> hi.  I had someone that had their video card go out, so they replaced the new video card..now when they load kubuntu, it goes into text mode and wont goto kde no matter what.  Is there a way to install the new video card without a reinstall? Do I need to boot to an ubuntu disc?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> the update factoid needs to be changed ,
[20:43] <Mamarok> true
[20:44] <BluesKaj> wifioregon,  is the new card the same make as the old one
[20:44] <Mamarok> witchyta_: did you find Muon? Else start the system settings, there you should see an option for updating packages
[20:44] <wifioregon> no its not
[20:44] <Mamarok> called "Software management"
[20:45] <wifioregon> BluesKaj:  Its not the same make. Do I need to do a reinstall?
[20:45] <georgelappies_> upgrading to libreoffice3.5 fixed the tooltip bug :)
[20:46] <BluesKaj> wifioregon,  you need a new driver for the new card
[20:46] <BluesKaj> new =different
[20:46] <wifioregon> BluesKaj: How do I do that?
[20:46] <wifioregon> I'm only able to access text mode
[20:47] <BluesKaj> wifioregon,  can you get to a tty prompt on said pc ?
[20:47] <witchyta_> ok
[20:47] <Mamarok> wifioregon: how about telling what card it is?
[20:47] <witchyta_> mamarok: ok
[20:47] <Mamarok> witchyta_: did you find it?
[20:47] <wifioregon> wifioregon:  Shoot. I'm trying to boot to an ubuntu disc right now. (I don't have kubuntu)
[20:47] <wifioregon> its taking FOREVER
[20:47] <witchyta_> no
[20:48] <Mamarok> witchyta_: in the menu you have an option called "System settings"
[20:48] <Mamarok> click there
[20:49] <witchyta_> i open it
[20:49] <Mamarok> witchyta_: there is an option called "Software management"
[20:49] <Guest14504> hola
[20:50] <Mamarok> Guest14504: English, please :)
[20:50] <witchyta_> mamarok :"Sofware management " not found in systeme settings
[20:50] <Mamarok> witchyta_: really? what Kubuntu version do you have?
[20:50] <Mamarok> it's written on the live CD
[20:51] <witchyta_> 11.10 oneiric
[20:51] <Mamarok> then you should definitely have that option in the system settings
[20:51] <witchyta_> it's live cd
[20:52] <Mamarok> )I know, but you said you installed it, no?
[20:52] <witchyta_> yes i install it from i live cd
[20:52] <Mamarok> or do you just run the live CD?
[20:53] <witchyta_> i run the live cd and after installed it
[20:53] <Mamarok> OK, so now you run Kubuntu 11.10, not from the live CD, then you should have that option in the System settings
[20:53] <Mamarok> maybe you need to scroll down
[20:54] <Mamarok> it is at the bottom in System Administration
[20:56] <wifioregon> okay so the new video card is Nvidia Corp NV6 VANTA/VANTA.. how do I install it? Also is that supported by linux?
[20:56] <witchyta_> Mamaro:i found muon in syteme but it not work , i have bug message
[20:57] <Mamarok> witchyta_: and what error message is that?
[20:58] <witchyta_> Muon Sofware center closed unexpectedly
[20:59] <Mamarok> oh, that shouldn't happen
[20:59] <Mamarok> try starting it again
[21:00] <witchyta_> it's still the same when i retry
[21:01] <Mamarok> witchyta_: then we will try from the konsole: type Alt+F2 and type: konsole
[21:01] <Mamarok> that should open the konsole
[21:01] <witchyta_> ok i do it
[21:02] <witchyta_> konsole is open
[21:02] <Mamarok> witchyta_: type: sudo apt-get update
[21:02] <Mamarok> that will do an update of your software sources
[21:02] <Mamarok> it will ask you your password
[21:03] <witchyta_> i do it
[21:03] <Mamarok> once that list is finished you type: sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:04] <Mamarok> that will suggest quite a few packages to install, just accept with y
[21:05] <witchyta_> ok now it work properly. i have to download  250 Mo updates files
[21:06] <Mamarok> well, yes, Oneiric came out 5 months ago, so there are quite some updates
[21:07] <Mamarok> witchyta_: muon is the package manager for Kubuntu, maybe it will also get fixed with these updates
[21:07] <witchyta_> Mamarok : thank you
[21:08] <Mamarok> witchyta_: you are welcome :)
[21:09] <witchyta_> can i use the same way to install softwares, i need vlc on my kubuntu
[21:09] <Mamarok> witchyta_: yes, of course
[21:09] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:09] <wifioregon> I thought its sudo apt-get install vlc-nox
[21:09] <Mamarok> wifioregon: why?
[21:10] <Mamarok> why would he install that without X support?
[21:10] <wifioregon> just thought it was
[21:10] <wifioregon> oh vlc-nox doesn't have windows X support
[21:10] <Mamarok> well, no
[21:28] <jr> hello
[21:29] <jr> anybody have any problems staying connected to a wireless router
[21:29] <Deckard_25> I heard the bad news about firefox KDE integration, does it mean it will look like win95 app?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> wifioregon, if you can get to a tty prompt in the pc with the new graphics card , sudo apt get install nvidia-173 , then sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx
[21:45] <BluesKaj> err sudi apt-get
[21:45] <phoenix_firebrd> sudi?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> oops again , sudo
[21:46] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd,  yeah sudi for sudi arabia :)_
[21:46] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  ha ha ha
[22:50] <osaka_bondage> hi
[23:10] <drtwox> Hi all. Where is the correct place to report a major bug in the Precise Beta? Can I seek help here?
[23:16] <asfyxia> drtwox: you can discuss them on the #ubuntu+1 channel. For bugs you can report them on Launchpad.
[23:16] <drtwox> Thanks asfyxia. That applies to Kubuntu too?
[23:17] <asfyxia> I guess so ;-)
[23:20] <asfyxia> drtwox: I had to scroll back a lot, but you can also start a discussion at #kubuntu-devel, there the devs are present. Unless they are enjoying a nice movie, but that's only human, I guess ;-)
[23:35] <drtwox> Thanks again asfyxia. I'll try those.