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bodhi_zazenjcastro http://askubuntu.com/questions/113605/how-to-extract-initrd-img-from-a-livecd00:00
bodhi_zazen'lo cprofitt00:00
jcastroyeah also earlier I kind of overbutchered one of your answers to point to similar answer you had posted.00:01
cprofittbodhi_zazen: do you know enough about IP tables to guide that question?00:01
cprofittI am thinking he might be missing or blocking a loopback00:01
bodhi_zazenWhat question cprofitt ?00:01
cprofittgetting link now00:01
cprofitthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/111009/why-is-ufw-blocking-akismet00:02
bodhi_zazenask swift to pastebin his or her ufw rules00:02
bodhi_zazenThe rules they posted make no sense as askimet works on my server with simple iptables rules covered by the posted ufw rules00:03
cprofittSeret is the question answer... and he did post his UFW rules00:04
cprofittyeah... I saw no issues with the UFW rules either... that is what made me curious about a loopback or other configuration issue00:04
bodhi_zazenjcastro I am sort of waiting on that question to see if the OP needs to use a chroot00:05
* jcastro nods00:05
cprofittbodhi_zazen: would having him turn logging help help?00:06
bodhi_zazencprofitt: have him sudo iptables -Z00:06
bodhi_zazentry to connect to askimet00:07
bodhi_zazenthen post00:07
cprofittk00:07
bodhi_zazensudo iptables -L -v -n | pastebin00:07
bodhi_zazenThat will show the dropped packets in iptables, could be a problem with the default rules in ufw00:07
bodhi_zazenjcastro I still think we could make use of #askubuntu =)00:10
jcastroiirc lfaraone registered that00:11
jcastrobut we never really used it00:11
jcastroactually it might have been #ubuntu-stackexchange00:11
bodhi_zazen #ubuntu-stackexchange is it00:12
cprofittjcastro: is there, to your knowledge any policy regarding the use of ones real name?00:15
cprofittfor the Ubuntu Community?00:15
jcastronot afaik00:17
jcastroI saw the question too00:17
jcastrowe don't care afaict.00:17
cprofittthat is what I thought... but felt I should ask.00:17
jcastroHowever, I am pretty sure if you didn't want people to know who you really are that we'd have a hard time booking UDS sponsorship for "ninjakitten" or whatever your fake name is though00:18
* cprofitt nods00:19
cprofittjcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/112434/is-there-a-real-name-policy-in-the-ubuntu-community/11361300:23
cprofittthat is why I was asking00:23
JackyAlcineafaict?00:23
JackyAlcineas far as I can tell.00:23
JackyAlcinenoice.00:23
cprofittyep00:23
bodhi_zazenJackyAlcine: you might also like tl;Dr.00:24
bodhi_zazenJackyAlcine: you might also like tl;dr00:25
cprofitttl;dr is very nice00:25
JackyAlcineo.o00:25
jcastrotl;dr is my favorite00:25
* JackyAlcine feels like he's not part of some secret club, lol.00:26
jcastrocprofitt, we don't have an official policy as far as I know00:26
jcastroOli's answer seems to be spot on to me, I didn't even know we had a policy to be rescinded in 2k8 wrt. Launchpad real names00:27
cprofittyeah... Oli's answer does look good... I only added mine due to the GPG stuff00:27
cprofittwould I have been able to add that to OLIs answer?00:28
jcastroyes00:29
jcastro"improve this answer" at the bottom of his00:29
bkerensajcastro:  I think though it would be curious to see if someone got approved for membership if their membership app used the name "Frodo Baggins"00:29
cprofittjcastro: I do not see that... just link edit flag00:29
bkerensaand a ten minute e-mail00:29
cprofittand add comment00:30
bodhi_zazenFrodo Badggins - Ubuntu user #200:30
bkerensa:D00:31
bkerensaSmeagel ?00:31
cprofittjcastro: I did an edit with the reason -- is that what you meant?00:32
jcastroyeah00:32
jcastroI saw it in the queue00:32
jcastrodone00:32
cprofittcool... I will do that from now on00:33
jcastrooh I messed up, "improve this answer" is for anonymous users and stuff00:33
jcastrofor you it probably assumes you know what edit means00:33
cprofittlol00:33
cprofittyeah00:33
bodhi_zazenSmeagel Slackware user #200:37
bkerensaoh I found a bug in AskUbuntu :P when you try and edit a comment and you hit enter it will not start a new line =/00:38
bodhi_zazenno new lines for comments, I even tried \n00:40
cprofittbkerensa: not a bug... its a missing feature00:41
cprofitt:-)00:41
bkerensacprofitt: Is askubuntu self hosted or apart of the network?00:42
cprofittI assume that stackexchange hosts it...00:44
jcastrothey do00:45
cjohnstonjcastro: you unbusy now?00:48
jcastrolet's do this00:48
jcastronote, I am 4 hours past EOD, so beer is involved.00:48
jcastrothis is how dedicated I am to you chris00:48
cjohnstonI love you too00:49
cjohnstonlol00:49
cjohnstonyou dont have to00:49
cjohnstonits up to you00:49
jcastrogirl's night out for jill00:49
jcastroit's you and me buddy00:49
cjohnstonaww00:50
cjohnstonjcastro: so who should be on this list00:50
jcastroIS.00:51
jcastro~uds-planners00:51
cjohnstonwhat part of IS, a person, a group of people00:51
jcastrowe should ask sean00:51
jcastrolocal IS probably, not like, RT00:52
jcastrooh dude00:52
jcastroI got it00:52
cjohnstonwhat00:52
jcastroadd the local IS folks to ~uds-organizers00:52
jcastroand we just turn on the mailing list for that in LP, and then alias "help@uds.ubuntu.com" to that mailing list00:52
cjohnstonok00:52
jcastrothat gets IS, marianna/meesh, track leads, and anyone who cares about scheduling anything00:53
jcastrothat inadvertanly includes the techboard, but that's ok00:53
cprofittman... it is real interesting seeing you guys work...00:54
jcastrocjohnston, ok so take your idea from earlier, copy it into a mail, and then the last few lines I just said, and put that in an RT.00:54
jcastroeasy peasy00:54
cjohnstonjcastro: do you want to try to get me admin on uds-organizers to handle this? right now its just the tech board, so that'd be bugging them to make it happen.. since to my knowledge we dont know who will be there00:54
cprofittjorge is likely pacing in front of his desk... pounding redbulls and fosters00:54
jcastrothere's no way around that00:54
cprofitt:-)00:54
cjohnstonok00:54
jcastrothe techboard is ultimately responsible for ubuntu, and UDS is an ubuntu event so they would manage that.00:54
jcastrobut they could do like add the IS team00:55
jcastrowe might think about making a "crew" team to add into that00:55
cjohnstoni doubt the whole team wants to be added00:55
cjohnstonlol00:55
cjohnstonor just the crew lead00:55
jcastroso that if it's like "holy god, we're out of chairs in room XXX" then they can action that00:55
* jcastro nods00:55
cjohnstoncause you do get permissions by being part of the group00:56
cjohnstonlike your meetings dont have to be approved00:56
jcastrotrue true00:56
jcastrobut look at the people we pick for crew.00:56
jcastrowe can just say "hey look, don't stomp on this."00:57
jcastroalso in the past the ACLs on summit were such a joke that half the attendees could schedule stuff00:57
jcastroand it was okay00:57
cjohnstonlol00:58
cjohnstonI guess tell them to mark their sessions unapproved, and only add them on Sunday00:58
jcastrobut really, just having IS in the group would handle most of the problems00:58
jcastroif we wanted to be more strict we could just say "crew, if you have problems either go to the IS room or mail this address"00:59
cjohnstonso I need to get the tech board to enable tohe mailing list on LP00:59
jcastroI can't imagine anything short of a medical emergency to need to be so real-time00:59
cjohnstonadd IS team to the mailing list00:59
cjohnstonthen just call 91101:00
cjohnstonor Joey01:00
cjohnstonlol01:00
jcastroput that in the RT, make sure I'm CCed, I'll rock that.01:00
cjohnstonWe want to file the RT before we have the ML?01:00
jcastroyeah, have the ML be part of the ticket01:00
cjohnstonok01:00
jcastroI'm not too worried about medical stuff, the one time it happened in Prague everyone was on the ball.01:01
jcastrooh no, it was Texas01:01
jcastrowhen Grant fell when we went ice skating the night before and got dizzy01:01
cjohnstonuggh01:02
jcastroand then everyone just rocked the reaction01:02
cjohnstonare any uds-organizers not going to be there?01:03
cjohnstonI guess technically they have the ability to unsubscribe01:03
jcastrohmm, we need to clean up this team01:04
* jcastro adds a work item01:04
cjohnston:-)01:04
jcastroI'll mail the TB and tell then to remove people who aren't around anymore01:04
cjohnstonwant to in that same mail ask them to create the ML and add IS?01:05
cjohnstonjcastro: http://pad.ubuntu.com/hpN9h92mOU01:05
jcastrook done01:08
cjohnstonjcastro: sent01:10
cjohnstonwe also need to remember a day or two before to send a mail to the uds email list letting people know about the address01:10
cjohnstonshould prolly also be added somewhere to uds.u.c01:10
jcastroI was thinking part of the intro presentation01:10
jcastrowe say "go see them at the desk"01:10
jcastrowe just add "go see them at the desk, if can't go to the desk, go here"01:11
cjohnstonk.. people may not remember an email address tho01:11
jcastrocjohnston, oh dude, bottom of summit01:11
jcastrolike the file a bug01:11
cjohnstonlol01:11
cjohnstonyour gonna make me file a bug aren't you01:12
jcastrowell, I certainly won't01:12
jcastroI know the maintainer01:12
cjohnstonlol01:12
cjohnstonyes.. mhall11901:12
jcastrohe'll just rock that01:12
jcastrohahahah01:12
jcastronice01:12
jcastroI was going to say nigel01:12
jcastrobut I like what you did there01:12
cjohnstonnigel quit01:12
cjohnstonlol01:12
jcastro"The OS is just too much, I can't handle it, I'm going to descope to the browser."01:13
cjohnstonwe made him the PM of Summit and he stopped workin on it01:13
Davieyone man can only take so much summit.01:17
cjohnstonDaviey:  we need you back01:18
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jcastrodon't tell him01:23
jcastrobut "you have nigel now" is my response to anytime one of my friends at Mozilla gives us smack.01:23
jcastro"I hate unity." "Ok, well, we gave you nigel." "Ok, you win."01:24
cjohnstonlol01:24
Pendulumhaha01:25
cprofittlol01:30
cprofittI just did a Unity walk through for my LUG last night01:31
cprofittit started out with much unhappiness with Unity01:31
cprofittthen at the end when 95% of the complaints were shown to not be reality there were quite a few people who were excited to try it01:31
jalcinewhat was your pitch, cprofitt?01:35
cprofittjalcine: well... it started with talking about the reaction to any change...01:36
cprofittgave examples of how people hated KDE 4.001:36
cprofittthen warmed up to it01:36
cprofittthen I talked about how the decision to go to Unity was related to Gnome becoming Gnome 301:37
cprofittthen just took each complaint a person gave and demonstrated01:37
* jalcine didn't know that one.01:37
cprofittlike the one were the person hated the new menu -- because it always stayed on the first monitor even when the program was on the second01:37
cprofitt... it did not work that way01:37
cprofittso that appeared to be a 'rumor'01:38
cprofittmost of the people had 'rumor' complaints01:38
cprofittI should say those that had complaints01:38
cprofittabout half the LUG actually liked Unity, but the vocal minority made it not seem that way until last night01:38
jalcineYeah, it's easy to read something on the 'net then to try it out for themselves.01:39
jalcineit's a bit perturbing when some one uses random slurs to defend themselves (especially on OMG!Ubuntu's comment forums >_<)01:39
* cprofitt nods01:39
cprofittI just think it is sad that humans are more vocal when they complain then when they are happy01:40
jalcineWell, they're probably too busy being happy to say anything :)01:41
jonogood work cprofitt02:03
bkerensajalcine: Unfortunately OMG does not enforce the CoC02:10
jalcineYeah, it's a shame..02:14
cprofittjono: thanks02:21
lfaraonejcastro: so #askubuntu isn't registered. I can do that, if you want.03:52
lfaraonesince -stackexchange sort of unobvious03:52
czajkowskiLá Fhéile Pádraig Sona Daoibh   =  Happy St. Patrick's Day!08:57
akgranerhey I am going to snag a screen shoot of this channel for the book - anyone not ok with me adding their irc nick in the screenshot?10:27
* benonsoftware wants to be in a book :P10:28
akgraner:-)10:29
akgranerit's for the Chapter on community so I thought this would be the best channel to snag the screenshot from :-)10:29
benonsoftwareWhat book?10:30
benonsoftware:)10:30
akgranerthe Official Ubuntu Book10:30
* benonsoftware has read that before at his local library, good book10:30
akgranerthanks10:30
benonsoftwareWhat edition number will this be?10:31
akgranerhey let's talk a little so I can clear some of the discussion from earlier in the channel10:31
akgranerbenonsoftware, 7th10:31
benonsoftwareNice10:31
* benonsoftware has got to go, see everyone later10:31
akgranerhave a good evening10:31
akgranerday10:31
akgranernight10:31
akgranerwhat ever tz you're in10:32
akgranerIRC is an example of just one of the many ways the Ubuntu Community communicates with one another.10:34
amber_This is an example of using a web based interface to use IRC, instead of having X-Chat installed like you see in Figure 10-1.10:39
akgranerok I'm done spamming the channel :-)10:52
akgranerthanks y'all :-)10:52
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mhall119good lord akgraner, what are you doing awake at 6:30am?12:45
mhall119on a saturday12:45
nigelblol.12:46
nigelbMorning mhall11912:46
mhall119good evening nigelb12:46
nigelbjcastro: awwww, thanks :)13:32
czajkowskiLaunchpad now has it's own G+ page - https://plus.google.com/116931976620769325703/posts13:43
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akgranermhall119, screenshots15:14
akgraner:-)15:14
akgranerand going through to see what information I missed (if any) so I can get it added once everything gets formatted15:15
akgranerhey are the short cut keys right now  - you know the ones you see what you hold doen the super key15:18
akgranerdown even15:18
AlanBellyeah, they should be right15:18
akgranerok - when I got ready to add them a couple weeks ago - some of them were wrong :-(15:19
AlanBellthere is a google doc with them in15:19
AlanBellhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1jqeKtIJwqLtl58Wk_fqjr9Rrgxn9zsouCYOo-cZsLSE/edit?pli=115:19
AlanBellthe design team like google docs, it seems to be one of the best ways to collaborate with them15:22
akgranerAlanBell, thank you15:34
akgraneralso the alt key also hides the laucher when it opens the application lens - is this the way it's supposed to be15:35
AlanBellyeah, there are a few things where it isn't clear if it is a bug or designed that way, I think that is one of the design features15:39
akgraner:-)15:42
akgranerAlanBell, you have mail - thanks in advance15:48
AlanBellso I have :)15:49
akgranermark it up  - make suggestions - add/edit :-)15:51
akgranerI think it's only 10 pages or so without the screenshots15:51
AlanBellis the plural of lens "lens" or "lenses"15:52
akgranerI've seen it both ways15:53
akgranerI think  - singular is Lens15:53
akgranerand plural is lenses15:53
akgranerfor this reference15:53
akgraneror at least that's what I gathered when I read the documentation15:54
akgranerAlanBell, if you find it's something different just make the changes15:55
jussiHrm, If I wanted to collect a bunch of templates for open office etc, where would be a good place to have people upload them?15:56
AlanBellthat would be a really good thing to encourage16:02
AlanBellwould be nice to have an Ubuntu package of default templates for LibreOffice16:02
jussiyeah, Im writing a blog post askign for people to contribute, but need a place to collect them all16:02
AlanBellset up a project and accept merge requests16:03
AlanBellbzr all the way16:03
jussiperhaps Ill just use an email address - many who would make templates certainly wont do bzr16:04
AlanBelldo both16:07
jussigood point16:07
* akgraner loves making templates :-)16:17
* jussi hugs akgraner16:17
akgraner:-) thanks jussi - I might have time to do one a month right now - but after UDS and Connect should have some more free time - no promises though but I'll send you any that I've already done and and I do in the future16:19
akgranerdo juju is always lower case unless it starts the sentence right?16:20
akgraners/do/so16:20
jussiakgraner: keep an eye on my blog, a post will appear in the the next 24h or so.16:20
akgranerroger than!16:20
htorquehi all! on ask ubuntu, there's an interesting question about whether there is something like a real name policy in the ubuntu community (e.g., forums, pgp keys, code contributions, etc.).16:41
htorquei think it could profit from answers from official/credible sources, i.e., you! :-)16:41
htorquehere's the link to that question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/112434/is-there-a-real-name-policy-in-the-ubuntu-community16:41
htorqueif you are new to ask ubuntu, make sure to check out the faq! note, i put a bounty on the question, so the best answer will get additional 250 reputation points.16:41
jussiakgraner: http://jussi01.com/2012/03/17/templates-and-defaults/16:42
* akgraner looks16:42
akgranerjussi,  \o/!16:43
jussi:)16:43
jussihope we get lots16:44
akgranerme too16:44
nigelbjussi: can you try to put it in a operating system - independant location?16:47
nigelbI'm sure there are windows users for open office / libre office.16:48
jussinigelb: ahh yes, Im sure we can create a package for win as well as access to the files16:48
jo-erlenddoes anyone know if anyone has been able to install Precise using Ubiquity yet or if it's still broken? I can't install it in VMs, laptops, desktops... It's a little bit scary.16:49
jussiakgraner: can I gget a repost/link/tweet/g+ etc for that?16:58
akgraneryep - editing something right now - but will once I save this and send to Mr. Castro :-)17:00
akgranerhow long should a keynote be ideally  - 25 minutes with time for questions  - or so you take up who whole time .17:10
akgranerDo you get bored with keynotes that take longer than that17:11
akgranerI only ask because I am one of the Keynote speakers for the Indiana Linux Fest and I want to make sure it's the right length and stuff.  So anyone going to be at this event?17:21
pleia2depends on the speaker and topic17:23
nigelbakgraner: I think somoene I know "might" be there. Let me ask him if he's going when I catch him around.17:25
pleia2some topics really lend themselves to audience participation and off the cuff questions, part of length will reflect that17:26
nigelbAlso, hrm, does keynotes have a lot of questions usually?17:26
nigelbI've only seen Mark's keynote at UDS have questions.17:27
pleia2akgraner: what is the time slot for the keynote? 45 minutes, 60?17:27
akgraner4517:28
pleia225 feels short17:28
nigelbyeah, 25 makes me think it's too much time for questions17:28
akgranerpleia2, the topic is  Linux on ARM: The Next Revolution17:28
pleia2my generic answer would be 35 minutes17:28
akgranerso I don't know if there will be questions or not17:28
pleia2and you don't have to leave time for questions, just give an email address and tell people to follow up after17:29
pleia2I see keynotes as somewhat authoritative, so leaving time for questions isn't as common I think17:30
akgranerpleia2, that's true17:30
nigelbakgraner: will it be recorded?17:30
czajkowski.c17:31
akgranernigelb, I believe so17:31
nigelb\o/17:31
pleia2even when they try to run around with the mic, the question section is the worst for remote attendees and recordings17:31
pleia2I usually turn it off at that point17:31
akgranernods17:32
nigelblol, I feel like pleia2 is tying what I want to say faster than I can :)17:32
akgranernigelb,  - great minds think alike :-)17:33
akgranerthanks - ok now I can work backwards into these slides17:34
nigelbheh17:34
nigelbAlso, morning pleia2 :)17:36
akgranerI'm a bit nervous about this one - all the talks I've given up til now have been as a community member, which takes some of the pressure off, this one well I represent work17:36
nigelbakgraner: You'll do great! :)17:36
akgranernigelb, thanks - and since you always enjoy my slides - I'll send you a copy17:37
nigelbhaha, thanks17:38
pleia2me too!17:39
pleia2I got lucky, the first presentation I did for work was to a pretty small, friendly audience17:40
pleia2(and I was just talking about why it's good for businesses to use open source, a topic I could present on in my sleep)17:41
nigelbThe good thing about being a conference organizer is that I almost never have to give a talk these days :P17:41
pleia2lol17:41
nigelbAmericans - NoLa = New Orleans?17:43
bkerensayes17:43
bkerensaNoLa = New Orleans, Louisiana17:43
nigelbAhhh.17:44
cjohnstonnigelb: help me with summit!17:51
nigelbcjohnston: I thought you said yesterday that I quit :D17:54
cjohnstontrying to get you back17:55
cjohnstonI can't do it all alnoone17:55
cjohnstonalone17:55
czajkowskicjohnston: saying please and bribing might help17:57
pleia2my goodness the st paddy's day parade is loud17:58
cjohnstonnigelb: please.. czajkowski will but you a beer!18:00
czajkowskilol18:01
mhall119akgraner: did you make new screenshots for the different Unity components?18:01
cjohnstonmhall119: you can help me with summit too.. please... czajkowski will buy you a beer too!18:02
mhall119I bet18:02
czajkowskisince when am I the beer person given I hate beer18:02
czajkowski:)18:02
cjohnstonits St. Patty's day... so its beer day18:02
mhall119wait, I thought you were irish18:02
czajkowskiI am18:02
cjohnstonlmao18:02
nigelbI hate beer too.18:02
czajkowskihence the CIDER or JD I drink18:02
nigelbJD gets all my love.18:02
mhall119is that allowed?18:02
czajkowskicjohnston: you said pattys there goes any good karma I'd ever have helped you with18:03
nigelblolololol18:03
czajkowskinow back to rugby18:03
mhall119nigelb: wth happened to the guy who thought a glass of wine in budapest was a big deal?18:03
cjohnstonnigelb and czajkowski can have JD together18:03
cjohnstonmhall119: +118:03
nigelbmhall119: I became a sysadmin :P18:03
mhall119heh,that would do it18:03
cjohnstonI had green beer.. it was good18:04
mhall119I have been, but it's not green18:04
mhall119s/been/beer/18:04
* nigelb has a nice whiskey waiting.18:05
bkerensajcastro: This juju experience is becoming epic18:06
czajkowskimhall119: I saw the meaty bbq droooollll18:06
jcastrobkerensa, heh, what's up18:06
mhall119czajkowski: oh it was good this time too18:07
bkerensajcastro: Well I think I am at the 99% mark now... But someone suggested a upstart job but I have not the faintest idea how to make that18:07
jcastroyeah18:07
jcastrothat's a nice option18:07
jcastrobut like, a bridge too far18:07
nigelbjcastro: ahaha, I read scrollback. I love you too :P18:07
jcastroit's not a requirement for the charm to be done18:07
jcastronigelb, :)18:07
bkerensajcastro: How can I make the stop hook kill subway?18:10
bkerensajust throw in killall subway?18:10
bkerensa:D18:10
jcastrodoes subway have a way to stop it?18:10
czajkowskieverytime ye say subway I think of the place where food smellys so badly :/18:11
czajkowskione around the corner from here18:11
mhall119I always think of sandwiches18:12
nigelbYeah, delicious ones too.18:12
pleia2it does have a distinctive smell18:12
jcastrobkerensa, ok so if we ignore the upstart script, what's left to do?18:16
czajkowskifa18:20
jalcineI wonder what makes like that, though.18:21
jalcineTrade secret?  o.O18:21
akgranermhall119, I will as it closer to the release date18:24
akgranermhall119, we put in all new screenshots with each new edition18:24
akgranerand that includes screen shots of all the recognized flavors as well18:25
mhall119akgraner: I'd love to get those new screenshots for use on developer.u.c documentation, if that would be okay18:27
mhall119closeups of the launcher, panel, indicators, etc18:27
mhall119since some of the ones we have now are kind of old18:27
akgranermhall119, I am sure it would - once I have them I'll send them your way18:27
mhall119thanks18:28
bkerensajcastro: just finish the stop hook?18:40
jussianyone else thats willing, please share/reblog/tweet this: http://jussi01.com/2012/03/17/templates-and-defaults/ - We need templates (oh, and I expect a template from you all also)18:41
jcastrobkerensa, hah so I guess really your only option is to kill it?18:42
jcastrounless there's some other clever way18:42
bkerensajcastro: yeah just killall subway I guess18:42
bkerensajcastro: the process comes up as "node subway"18:44
bkerensaso would I just killall node subway?18:44
jcastroyeah I guess lol18:51
jcastroI mean, it does the job18:51
jcastroand if subway has no way to quit then I don't see how else you would do it.18:51
bkerensamhall119: I guess so far no progress on sumo in doc-team? =S I am not sure there is ever enough consensus on the team to make decisions19:19
bkerensa:D19:19
pangolinbkerensa, thanks for the post/repost/share/whatever :)19:27
bkerensapangolin: no problem19:27
mhall119bkerensa: well part of the problem is that I haven't been able to keep a sumo server up and running21:35
mhall119jim cambell and jcastro played with it a bit while it was up21:36
bkerensamhall119: due to sumo or just your instance?22:03
jcastrobkerensa, sorry I haven't been testing your charm23:15
jcastrobusy saving OMG23:15
jcastroalmost done though23:15

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