[00:00] jcastro http://askubuntu.com/questions/113605/how-to-extract-initrd-img-from-a-livecd [00:00] 'lo cprofitt [00:01] yeah also earlier I kind of overbutchered one of your answers to point to similar answer you had posted. [00:01] bodhi_zazen: do you know enough about IP tables to guide that question? [00:01] I am thinking he might be missing or blocking a loopback [00:01] What question cprofitt ? [00:01] getting link now [00:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/111009/why-is-ufw-blocking-akismet [00:02] ask swift to pastebin his or her ufw rules [00:03] The rules they posted make no sense as askimet works on my server with simple iptables rules covered by the posted ufw rules [00:04] Seret is the question answer... and he did post his UFW rules [00:04] yeah... I saw no issues with the UFW rules either... that is what made me curious about a loopback or other configuration issue [00:05] jcastro I am sort of waiting on that question to see if the OP needs to use a chroot [00:05] * jcastro nods [00:06] bodhi_zazen: would having him turn logging help help? [00:06] cprofitt: have him sudo iptables -Z [00:07] try to connect to askimet [00:07] then post [00:07] k [00:07] sudo iptables -L -v -n | pastebin [00:07] That will show the dropped packets in iptables, could be a problem with the default rules in ufw [00:10] jcastro I still think we could make use of #askubuntu =) [00:11] iirc lfaraone registered that [00:11] but we never really used it [00:11] actually it might have been #ubuntu-stackexchange [00:12] #ubuntu-stackexchange is it [00:15] jcastro: is there, to your knowledge any policy regarding the use of ones real name? [00:15] for the Ubuntu Community? [00:17] not afaik [00:17] I saw the question too [00:17] we don't care afaict. [00:17] that is what I thought... but felt I should ask. [00:18] However, I am pretty sure if you didn't want people to know who you really are that we'd have a hard time booking UDS sponsorship for "ninjakitten" or whatever your fake name is though [00:19] * cprofitt nods [00:23] jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/112434/is-there-a-real-name-policy-in-the-ubuntu-community/113613 [00:23] that is why I was asking [00:23] afaict? [00:23] as far as I can tell. [00:23] noice. [00:23] yep [00:24] JackyAlcine: you might also like tl;Dr. [00:25] JackyAlcine: you might also like tl;dr [00:25] tl;dr is very nice [00:25] o.o [00:25] tl;dr is my favorite [00:26] * JackyAlcine feels like he's not part of some secret club, lol. [00:26] cprofitt, we don't have an official policy as far as I know [00:27] Oli's answer seems to be spot on to me, I didn't even know we had a policy to be rescinded in 2k8 wrt. Launchpad real names [00:27] yeah... Oli's answer does look good... I only added mine due to the GPG stuff [00:28] would I have been able to add that to OLIs answer? [00:29] yes [00:29] "improve this answer" at the bottom of his [00:29] jcastro: I think though it would be curious to see if someone got approved for membership if their membership app used the name "Frodo Baggins" [00:29] jcastro: I do not see that... just link edit flag [00:29] and a ten minute e-mail [00:30] and add comment [00:30] Frodo Badggins - Ubuntu user #2 [00:31] :D [00:31] Smeagel ? [00:32] jcastro: I did an edit with the reason -- is that what you meant? [00:32] yeah [00:32] I saw it in the queue [00:32] done [00:33] cool... I will do that from now on [00:33] oh I messed up, "improve this answer" is for anonymous users and stuff [00:33] for you it probably assumes you know what edit means [00:33] lol [00:33] yeah [00:37] Smeagel Slackware user #2 [00:38] oh I found a bug in AskUbuntu :P when you try and edit a comment and you hit enter it will not start a new line =/ [00:40] no new lines for comments, I even tried \n [00:41] bkerensa: not a bug... its a missing feature [00:41] :-) [00:42] cprofitt: Is askubuntu self hosted or apart of the network? [00:44] I assume that stackexchange hosts it... [00:45] they do [00:48] jcastro: you unbusy now? [00:48] let's do this [00:48] note, I am 4 hours past EOD, so beer is involved. [00:48] this is how dedicated I am to you chris [00:49] I love you too [00:49] lol [00:49] you dont have to [00:49] its up to you [00:49] girl's night out for jill [00:49] it's you and me buddy [00:50] aww [00:50] jcastro: so who should be on this list [00:51] IS. [00:51] ~uds-planners [00:51] what part of IS, a person, a group of people [00:51] we should ask sean [00:52] local IS probably, not like, RT [00:52] oh dude [00:52] I got it [00:52] what [00:52] add the local IS folks to ~uds-organizers [00:52] and we just turn on the mailing list for that in LP, and then alias "help@uds.ubuntu.com" to that mailing list [00:52] ok [00:53] that gets IS, marianna/meesh, track leads, and anyone who cares about scheduling anything [00:53] that inadvertanly includes the techboard, but that's ok [00:54] man... it is real interesting seeing you guys work... [00:54] cjohnston, ok so take your idea from earlier, copy it into a mail, and then the last few lines I just said, and put that in an RT. [00:54] easy peasy [00:54] jcastro: do you want to try to get me admin on uds-organizers to handle this? right now its just the tech board, so that'd be bugging them to make it happen.. since to my knowledge we dont know who will be there [00:54] jorge is likely pacing in front of his desk... pounding redbulls and fosters [00:54] there's no way around that [00:54] :-) [00:54] ok [00:54] the techboard is ultimately responsible for ubuntu, and UDS is an ubuntu event so they would manage that. [00:55] but they could do like add the IS team [00:55] we might think about making a "crew" team to add into that [00:55] i doubt the whole team wants to be added [00:55] lol [00:55] or just the crew lead [00:55] so that if it's like "holy god, we're out of chairs in room XXX" then they can action that [00:55] * jcastro nods [00:56] cause you do get permissions by being part of the group [00:56] like your meetings dont have to be approved [00:56] true true [00:56] but look at the people we pick for crew. [00:57] we can just say "hey look, don't stomp on this." [00:57] also in the past the ACLs on summit were such a joke that half the attendees could schedule stuff [00:57] and it was okay [00:58] lol [00:58] I guess tell them to mark their sessions unapproved, and only add them on Sunday [00:58] but really, just having IS in the group would handle most of the problems [00:59] if we wanted to be more strict we could just say "crew, if you have problems either go to the IS room or mail this address" [00:59] so I need to get the tech board to enable tohe mailing list on LP [00:59] I can't imagine anything short of a medical emergency to need to be so real-time [00:59] add IS team to the mailing list [01:00] then just call 911 [01:00] or Joey [01:00] lol [01:00] put that in the RT, make sure I'm CCed, I'll rock that. [01:00] We want to file the RT before we have the ML? [01:00] yeah, have the ML be part of the ticket [01:00] ok [01:01] I'm not too worried about medical stuff, the one time it happened in Prague everyone was on the ball. [01:01] oh no, it was Texas [01:01] when Grant fell when we went ice skating the night before and got dizzy [01:02] uggh [01:02] and then everyone just rocked the reaction [01:03] are any uds-organizers not going to be there? [01:03] I guess technically they have the ability to unsubscribe [01:04] hmm, we need to clean up this team [01:04] * jcastro adds a work item [01:04] :-) [01:04] I'll mail the TB and tell then to remove people who aren't around anymore [01:05] want to in that same mail ask them to create the ML and add IS? [01:05] jcastro: http://pad.ubuntu.com/hpN9h92mOU [01:08] ok done [01:10] jcastro: sent [01:10] we also need to remember a day or two before to send a mail to the uds email list letting people know about the address [01:10] should prolly also be added somewhere to uds.u.c [01:10] I was thinking part of the intro presentation [01:10] we say "go see them at the desk" [01:11] we just add "go see them at the desk, if can't go to the desk, go here" [01:11] k.. people may not remember an email address tho [01:11] cjohnston, oh dude, bottom of summit [01:11] like the file a bug [01:11] lol [01:12] your gonna make me file a bug aren't you [01:12] well, I certainly won't [01:12] I know the maintainer [01:12] lol [01:12] yes.. mhall119 [01:12] he'll just rock that [01:12] hahahah [01:12] nice [01:12] I was going to say nigel [01:12] but I like what you did there [01:12] nigel quit [01:12] lol [01:13] "The OS is just too much, I can't handle it, I'm going to descope to the browser." [01:13] we made him the PM of Summit and he stopped workin on it [01:17] one man can only take so much summit. [01:18] Daviey: we need you back === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine [01:23] don't tell him [01:23] but "you have nigel now" is my response to anytime one of my friends at Mozilla gives us smack. [01:24] "I hate unity." "Ok, well, we gave you nigel." "Ok, you win." [01:24] lol [01:25] haha [01:30] lol [01:31] I just did a Unity walk through for my LUG last night [01:31] it started out with much unhappiness with Unity [01:31] then at the end when 95% of the complaints were shown to not be reality there were quite a few people who were excited to try it [01:35] what was your pitch, cprofitt? [01:36] jalcine: well... it started with talking about the reaction to any change... [01:36] gave examples of how people hated KDE 4.0 [01:36] then warmed up to it [01:37] then I talked about how the decision to go to Unity was related to Gnome becoming Gnome 3 [01:37] then just took each complaint a person gave and demonstrated [01:37] * jalcine didn't know that one. [01:37] like the one were the person hated the new menu -- because it always stayed on the first monitor even when the program was on the second [01:37] ... it did not work that way [01:38] so that appeared to be a 'rumor' [01:38] most of the people had 'rumor' complaints [01:38] I should say those that had complaints [01:38] about half the LUG actually liked Unity, but the vocal minority made it not seem that way until last night [01:39] Yeah, it's easy to read something on the 'net then to try it out for themselves. [01:39] it's a bit perturbing when some one uses random slurs to defend themselves (especially on OMG!Ubuntu's comment forums >_<) [01:39] * cprofitt nods [01:40] I just think it is sad that humans are more vocal when they complain then when they are happy [01:41] Well, they're probably too busy being happy to say anything :) [02:03] good work cprofitt [02:10] jalcine: Unfortunately OMG does not enforce the CoC [02:14] Yeah, it's a shame.. [02:21] jono: thanks [03:52] jcastro: so #askubuntu isn't registered. I can do that, if you want. [03:52] since -stackexchange sort of unobvious [08:57] Lá Fhéile Pádraig Sona Daoibh = Happy St. Patrick's Day! [10:27] hey I am going to snag a screen shoot of this channel for the book - anyone not ok with me adding their irc nick in the screenshot? [10:28] * benonsoftware wants to be in a book :P [10:29] :-) [10:29] it's for the Chapter on community so I thought this would be the best channel to snag the screenshot from :-) [10:30] What book? [10:30] :) [10:30] the Official Ubuntu Book [10:30] * benonsoftware has read that before at his local library, good book [10:30] thanks [10:31] What edition number will this be? [10:31] hey let's talk a little so I can clear some of the discussion from earlier in the channel [10:31] benonsoftware, 7th [10:31] Nice [10:31] * benonsoftware has got to go, see everyone later [10:31] have a good evening [10:31] day [10:31] night [10:32] what ever tz you're in [10:34] IRC is an example of just one of the many ways the Ubuntu Community communicates with one another. [10:39] This is an example of using a web based interface to use IRC, instead of having X-Chat installed like you see in Figure 10-1. [10:52] ok I'm done spamming the channel :-) [10:52] thanks y'all :-) === jokerdino is now known as jokerdino_ === jokerdino_ is now known as jokerdino [12:45] good lord akgraner, what are you doing awake at 6:30am? [12:45] on a saturday [12:46] lol. [12:46] Morning mhall119 [12:46] good evening nigelb [13:32] jcastro: awwww, thanks :) [13:43] Launchpad now has it's own G+ page - https://plus.google.com/116931976620769325703/posts === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine [15:14] mhall119, screenshots [15:14] :-) [15:15] and going through to see what information I missed (if any) so I can get it added once everything gets formatted [15:18] hey are the short cut keys right now - you know the ones you see what you hold doen the super key [15:18] down even [15:18] yeah, they should be right [15:19] ok - when I got ready to add them a couple weeks ago - some of them were wrong :-( [15:19] there is a google doc with them in [15:19] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jqeKtIJwqLtl58Wk_fqjr9Rrgxn9zsouCYOo-cZsLSE/edit?pli=1 [15:22] the design team like google docs, it seems to be one of the best ways to collaborate with them [15:34] AlanBell, thank you [15:35] also the alt key also hides the laucher when it opens the application lens - is this the way it's supposed to be [15:39] yeah, there are a few things where it isn't clear if it is a bug or designed that way, I think that is one of the design features [15:42] :-) [15:48] AlanBell, you have mail - thanks in advance [15:49] so I have :) [15:51] mark it up - make suggestions - add/edit :-) [15:51] I think it's only 10 pages or so without the screenshots [15:52] is the plural of lens "lens" or "lenses" [15:53] I've seen it both ways [15:53] I think - singular is Lens [15:53] and plural is lenses [15:53] for this reference [15:54] or at least that's what I gathered when I read the documentation [15:55] AlanBell, if you find it's something different just make the changes [15:56] Hrm, If I wanted to collect a bunch of templates for open office etc, where would be a good place to have people upload them? [16:02] that would be a really good thing to encourage [16:02] would be nice to have an Ubuntu package of default templates for LibreOffice [16:02] yeah, Im writing a blog post askign for people to contribute, but need a place to collect them all [16:03] set up a project and accept merge requests [16:03] bzr all the way [16:04] perhaps Ill just use an email address - many who would make templates certainly wont do bzr [16:07] do both [16:07] good point [16:17] * akgraner loves making templates :-) [16:17] * jussi hugs akgraner [16:19] :-) thanks jussi - I might have time to do one a month right now - but after UDS and Connect should have some more free time - no promises though but I'll send you any that I've already done and and I do in the future [16:20] do juju is always lower case unless it starts the sentence right? [16:20] s/do/so [16:20] akgraner: keep an eye on my blog, a post will appear in the the next 24h or so. [16:20] roger than! [16:41] hi all! on ask ubuntu, there's an interesting question about whether there is something like a real name policy in the ubuntu community (e.g., forums, pgp keys, code contributions, etc.). [16:41] i think it could profit from answers from official/credible sources, i.e., you! :-) [16:41] here's the link to that question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/112434/is-there-a-real-name-policy-in-the-ubuntu-community [16:41] if you are new to ask ubuntu, make sure to check out the faq! note, i put a bounty on the question, so the best answer will get additional 250 reputation points. [16:42] akgraner: http://jussi01.com/2012/03/17/templates-and-defaults/ [16:42] * akgraner looks [16:43] jussi, \o/! [16:43] :) [16:44] hope we get lots [16:44] me too [16:47] jussi: can you try to put it in a operating system - independant location? [16:48] I'm sure there are windows users for open office / libre office. [16:48] nigelb: ahh yes, Im sure we can create a package for win as well as access to the files [16:49] does anyone know if anyone has been able to install Precise using Ubiquity yet or if it's still broken? I can't install it in VMs, laptops, desktops... It's a little bit scary. [16:58] akgraner: can I gget a repost/link/tweet/g+ etc for that? [17:00] yep - editing something right now - but will once I save this and send to Mr. Castro :-) [17:10] how long should a keynote be ideally - 25 minutes with time for questions - or so you take up who whole time . [17:11] Do you get bored with keynotes that take longer than that [17:21] I only ask because I am one of the Keynote speakers for the Indiana Linux Fest and I want to make sure it's the right length and stuff. So anyone going to be at this event? [17:23] depends on the speaker and topic [17:25] akgraner: I think somoene I know "might" be there. Let me ask him if he's going when I catch him around. [17:26] some topics really lend themselves to audience participation and off the cuff questions, part of length will reflect that [17:26] Also, hrm, does keynotes have a lot of questions usually? [17:27] I've only seen Mark's keynote at UDS have questions. [17:27] akgraner: what is the time slot for the keynote? 45 minutes, 60? [17:28] 45 [17:28] 25 feels short [17:28] yeah, 25 makes me think it's too much time for questions [17:28] pleia2, the topic is Linux on ARM: The Next Revolution [17:28] my generic answer would be 35 minutes [17:28] so I don't know if there will be questions or not [17:29] and you don't have to leave time for questions, just give an email address and tell people to follow up after [17:30] I see keynotes as somewhat authoritative, so leaving time for questions isn't as common I think [17:30] pleia2, that's true [17:30] akgraner: will it be recorded? [17:31] .c [17:31] nigelb, I believe so [17:31] \o/ [17:31] even when they try to run around with the mic, the question section is the worst for remote attendees and recordings [17:31] I usually turn it off at that point [17:32] nods [17:32] lol, I feel like pleia2 is tying what I want to say faster than I can :) [17:33] nigelb, - great minds think alike :-) [17:34] thanks - ok now I can work backwards into these slides [17:34] heh [17:36] Also, morning pleia2 :) [17:36] I'm a bit nervous about this one - all the talks I've given up til now have been as a community member, which takes some of the pressure off, this one well I represent work [17:36] akgraner: You'll do great! :) [17:37] nigelb, thanks - and since you always enjoy my slides - I'll send you a copy [17:38] haha, thanks [17:39] me too! [17:40] I got lucky, the first presentation I did for work was to a pretty small, friendly audience [17:41] (and I was just talking about why it's good for businesses to use open source, a topic I could present on in my sleep) [17:41] The good thing about being a conference organizer is that I almost never have to give a talk these days :P [17:41] lol [17:43] Americans - NoLa = New Orleans? [17:43] yes [17:43] NoLa = New Orleans, Louisiana [17:44] Ahhh. [17:51] nigelb: help me with summit! [17:54] cjohnston: I thought you said yesterday that I quit :D [17:55] trying to get you back [17:55] I can't do it all alnoone [17:55] alone [17:57] cjohnston: saying please and bribing might help [17:58] my goodness the st paddy's day parade is loud [18:00] nigelb: please.. czajkowski will but you a beer! [18:01] lol [18:01] akgraner: did you make new screenshots for the different Unity components? [18:02] mhall119: you can help me with summit too.. please... czajkowski will buy you a beer too! [18:02] I bet [18:02] since when am I the beer person given I hate beer [18:02] :) [18:02] its St. Patty's day... so its beer day [18:02] wait, I thought you were irish [18:02] I am [18:02] lmao [18:02] I hate beer too. [18:02] hence the CIDER or JD I drink [18:02] JD gets all my love. [18:02] is that allowed? [18:03] cjohnston: you said pattys there goes any good karma I'd ever have helped you with [18:03] lolololol [18:03] now back to rugby [18:03] nigelb: wth happened to the guy who thought a glass of wine in budapest was a big deal? [18:03] nigelb and czajkowski can have JD together [18:03] mhall119: +1 [18:03] mhall119: I became a sysadmin :P [18:03] heh,that would do it [18:04] I had green beer.. it was good [18:04] I have been, but it's not green [18:04] s/been/beer/ [18:05] * nigelb has a nice whiskey waiting. [18:06] jcastro: This juju experience is becoming epic [18:06] mhall119: I saw the meaty bbq droooollll [18:06] bkerensa, heh, what's up [18:07] czajkowski: oh it was good this time too [18:07] jcastro: Well I think I am at the 99% mark now... But someone suggested a upstart job but I have not the faintest idea how to make that [18:07] yeah [18:07] that's a nice option [18:07] but like, a bridge too far [18:07] jcastro: ahaha, I read scrollback. I love you too :P [18:07] it's not a requirement for the charm to be done [18:07] nigelb, :) [18:10] jcastro: How can I make the stop hook kill subway? [18:10] just throw in killall subway? [18:10] :D [18:10] does subway have a way to stop it? [18:11] everytime ye say subway I think of the place where food smellys so badly :/ [18:11] one around the corner from here [18:12] I always think of sandwiches [18:12] Yeah, delicious ones too. [18:12] it does have a distinctive smell [18:16] bkerensa, ok so if we ignore the upstart script, what's left to do? [18:20] fa [18:21] I wonder what makes like that, though. [18:21] Trade secret? o.O [18:24] mhall119, I will as it closer to the release date [18:24] mhall119, we put in all new screenshots with each new edition [18:25] and that includes screen shots of all the recognized flavors as well [18:27] akgraner: I'd love to get those new screenshots for use on developer.u.c documentation, if that would be okay [18:27] closeups of the launcher, panel, indicators, etc [18:27] since some of the ones we have now are kind of old [18:27] mhall119, I am sure it would - once I have them I'll send them your way [18:28] thanks [18:40] jcastro: just finish the stop hook? [18:41] anyone else thats willing, please share/reblog/tweet this: http://jussi01.com/2012/03/17/templates-and-defaults/ - We need templates (oh, and I expect a template from you all also) [18:42] bkerensa, hah so I guess really your only option is to kill it? [18:42] unless there's some other clever way [18:42] jcastro: yeah just killall subway I guess [18:44] jcastro: the process comes up as "node subway" [18:44] so would I just killall node subway? [18:51]