[01:24] <littlegirl> Does anyone in here do any work on the Kubuntu docs?
[01:30] <j1mc> littlegirl: i'm not sure. maybe Darkwing does, but i'm not sure.
[01:30] <littlegirl> j1mc: Yeah, he does, thanks, but he isn't on. I got around it by rewriting that section. (:
[01:30] <j1mc> ok : )
[01:41] <jbicha> j1mc: howdy, good to hear work's going well for you
[01:43] <j1mc> hey jbicha - thanks
[01:43] <j1mc> i will feel better once i have the offer in hand, but i think it's a formality at this point.
[01:46] <jbicha> it looks like we'll be down to the wire again for Ubuntu docs, I meant to blog more asking for contributors
[01:46] <j1mc> when is string freeze?
[01:46] <j1mc> i've been focusing more on gnome lately, but could pitch in some.
[01:46] <jbicha> lol, docs freeze is supposedly in 5 or 6 days which isn't enough time
[01:47] <jbicha> I'm going to ask for 1 more week, that should still give the translators plenty of time
[01:47] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[01:50] <j1mc> one more week makes sense
[01:51] <j1mc> bbiab - laundry is done.
[01:51] <jbicha> at least there was more time after UI Freeze than last cycle, & the UIFE's so far haven't really messed with Docs stuff as much
[01:52] <jbicha> getting GNOME Shell 3.4 into Ubuntu took a lot of my effort the past two weeks, that was a headache
[01:53] <jbicha> j1mc: you ever use meld? it's a lifesaver for merging the GNOME user guide into Ubuntu's fork
[01:54] <j1mc> jbicha: no, i haven't used that. what is it?
[01:54] <littlegirl> I was told string freeze is March 22.
[01:55] <jbicha> littlegirl: that's correct
[01:56] <jbicha> j1mc: http://meldmerge.org/
[01:57] <jbicha> I couldn't imagine doing the merge without something like that
[01:58]  * j1mc nods
[01:59] <j1mc> it pulls in sweet, sweet dependencies, too.  "libbonobo2, libgnomeui"  :)
[01:59] <j1mc> old skool
[02:02] <littlegirl> I'm doing my first bzr push ever to the Launchpad server and this is what it says to me:
[02:02] <littlegirl> he authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.90.11)' can't be established.
[02:02] <littlegirl> RSA key fingerprint is 9d:38:3a:63:b1:d5:6f:c4:44:67:53:49:2e:ee:fc:89.
[02:02] <littlegirl> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[02:02] <jbicha> haha, oh does it?
[02:03] <littlegirl> Is there something I should have done in bzr first to establish the authenticity of the RSA key fingerprint?
[02:03] <jbicha> littlegirl: I just hit yes, ssh does that the first time you connect
[02:03] <j1mc> littlegirl: if it's your first push, i would say it's ok to accept it.
[02:04] <j1mc> you didn't need to do anything beforehand
[02:04] <jbicha> j1mc: meld recommends python-gnome2 which pulls in the old stuff
[02:04] <littlegirl> Thanks. I may have waited too long. Trying it again.
[02:04] <jbicha> littlegirl: yeah it gives a far more scary message if the key ever changes
[02:04] <littlegirl> Hmmm, now it says this:
[02:04] <littlegirl> Permission denied (publickey).
[02:04] <littlegirl> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[02:05] <littlegirl> This is the command I've been using: bzr push lp:~littlergirl/kubuntu-docs/basics
[02:05] <j1mc> littlegirl: did you set up your ssh key on launchpad?
[02:05] <littlegirl> By the way, I totally agree about Meld. That program rules. (:
[02:06] <littlegirl> j1mc: Yep, I did that last night. Is there somewhere I need to go to tell bzr about it?
[02:07] <littlegirl> I don't know if you're able to view this page since it's within my account, but the key shows up here: https://launchpad.net/~littlergirl/+editsshkeys
[02:07] <j1mc> littlegirl: when you do  "ls -l ~/.ssh/" what do you get?
[02:07] <j1mc> it might be ssh permissions on your local computer
[02:08] <littlegirl> -rw-r--r-- 1 little little  540 2012-03-16 22:03 known_hosts
[02:08] <littlegirl> -rw-r--r-- 1 little little  646 2012-03-16 00:48 logofcreationofsshkey.txt
[02:08] <littlegirl> -rw------- 1 little little 1743 2012-03-16 00:37 MySSHKey
[02:08] <littlegirl> -rw-r--r-- 1 little little  399 2012-03-16 00:37 MySSHKey.pub
[02:09] <littlegirl> The logofcreationofsshkey.txt file is something I made by copying everything in Bash so that I'd have a record of how it went.
[02:09] <j1mc> can you try "chmod 644 MySSHKey.pub" and then re-enter the "ls -l" command?
[02:09] <j1mc> sorry, "chmod 644 ~/.ssh/MySSHKey.pub"
[02:10] <jbicha> I don't see her SSH key at https://launchpad.net/~littlergirl mine is listed on https://launchpad.net/~jbicha
[02:11] <j1mc> sorry again. try this: "chmod 600 ~/.ssh/MySSHKey.pub"
[02:11] <j1mc> jbicha: agreed
[02:13] <littlegirl> -rw------- 1 little little  399 2012-03-16 22:10 MySSHKey.pub
[02:14] <littlegirl> I generated it with kgpg. Should I try doing it another way?
[02:15] <littlegirl> Whoops, never mind - that was my pgp key. Too many keys in too short of a time. (:
[02:16] <j1mc> littlegirl: ok - i think your key permissions are set correctly now. but we still don't see your key up on launchpad.net
[02:16] <j1mc> if you look at https://launchpad.net/~jwcampbell  ...  you'll see my SSH keys
[02:17] <littlegirl> j1mc: Can I delete it and put it in again?
[02:17] <j1mc> same for if you go to https://launchpad.net/~jbicha
[02:17] <littlegirl> j1mc: Yeah, I see yours. Mine just has a little pencil for editing, but when I click edit, it's there.
[02:17] <j1mc> you don't need to delete the keys and put them up again...
[02:18] <littlegirl> Weehaw, now you should see it. (:
[02:18] <littlegirl> I deleted it from Launchpad and pasted it in again and it took it. (:
[02:18] <j1mc> littlegirl: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[02:19] <j1mc> look at "registering the key with launchpad"
[02:19] <j1mc> littlegirl: ok - i see your key on launchpad now
[02:19] <j1mc> you can try your upload again
[02:19] <j1mc> "SSH keys: little@MYCOMPUTER"
[02:20] <littlegirl> Trying the upload again gives me this: Permission denied (publickey).
[02:21] <kjs> morning
[02:22] <littlegirl> Morning. (:
[02:22] <j1mc> littlegirl: try "chmod 600 ~/.ssh"
[02:23] <littlegirl> j1mc: Hmmm, it still won't let me upload.
[02:23] <littlegirl> It still says Permission denied (publickey). even after that command.
[02:23] <j1mc> ok - maybe give it a few minutes - you just uploaded that key
[02:24] <littlegirl> j1mc: Okay, will do. I feel bad, because I promised I'd get going on the documentation and I've got one done and am ready to do more. (:
[02:25] <j1mc> littlegirl: also... can you move those "instructions" out of your .ssh folder?
[02:25] <jbicha> littlegirl: don't feel bad, the first contribution takes a lot of effort
[02:25] <j1mc> i doubt that owuld have an affect, but it can't hurt to not have that file in there.
[02:26] <j1mc> jbicha: do you think launchpad might need a few minutes to fully register her key, or is there something else you can think of.
[02:26] <littlegirl> LOL, I'm not allowed into the folder now. It says permission denied. How do I undo that last chmod 600 command?
[02:27] <j1mc> littlegirl: sorry, try "chmod 644 ~/.ssh"
[02:27] <jbicha> yeah the ssh key is there which is a good sign
[02:28] <littlegirl> It still says access denied. I even closed Dolphin and opened it again.
[02:28] <j1mc> ... see, i was writing up docs for seahorse, but didn't get them finished. this is what i get.
[02:28] <j1mc> :(
[02:28] <jbicha> littlegirl: what's your computer named? ie what comes after the @ sign in your terminal prompt?
[02:28] <littlegirl> MYCOMPUTER
[02:29] <jbicha> ok, just checking
[02:29] <littlegirl> cd ~/.ssh
[02:29] <littlegirl> bash: cd: /home/little/.ssh: Permission denied
[02:29] <littlegirl> This has to be a government conspiracy. (: (: (:
[02:29] <j1mc> littlegirl: sorry, try "chmod 700 ~/.ssh"
[02:30] <littlegirl> j1mc: That worked. Okay, the log file I had made is gone. Trying the upload again...
[02:31] <littlegirl> Nope, it's still giving me permission denied because of the public key.
[02:32] <j1mc> can you enter the "ls -l ~/.ssh/" command again?
[02:33] <jbicha> oh the government doesn't want you contributing to Kubuntu docs?
[02:33] <littlegirl> jbicha: -rw------- 1 little little  399 2012-03-16 22:10 MySSHKey.pub
[02:34] <littlegirl> jbicha: Anything is possible. (:
[02:34] <j1mc> what about the other files?
[02:34] <littlegirl> j1mc:
[02:34] <littlegirl> -rw-r--r-- 1 little little  540 2012-03-16 22:03 known_hosts
[02:34] <littlegirl> -rw------- 1 little little 1743 2012-03-16 00:37 MySSHKey
[02:36] <jbicha> uh oh, what did you do with your MySSHKey.pub ?
[02:36] <j1mc> jbicha: shouldn't there be something like "id_rsa.pub" or something?
[02:37] <j1mc> not MySSHKey.pub?  :/  i'm not sure
[02:37] <j1mc> not sure if it matters
[02:38] <jbicha> this is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/887272/
[02:38] <littlegirl> j1mc: Yeah, I'm reading the instructions page from the link above and I think, since I apparently didn't use a common name for the file, it's considered a custom file name, and it suggests I edit the config file and tell it which file to use for Launchpad.
[02:38] <j1mc> i would probably use a common file name
[02:39] <jbicha> id_rsa is default
[02:39] <littlegirl> Then my permissions on my pub file are definitely wrong because groups and others can't read the file.
[02:39] <littlegirl> Can I rename the file manually or will SSH get mad if I tamper with it?
[02:40] <j1mc> i would try changing the files to "id_rsa" and "id_rsa.pub"
[02:40] <j1mc> i think manually should be ok
[02:40] <littlegirl> j1mc: Okay, trying that...
[02:40] <j1mc> littlegirl: the permissions on keys are supposed to be more restrictive.
[02:40] <jbicha> littlegirl: I don't think you necessarily have to let groups & others read your public keys, that's just the default
[02:40] <j1mc> if they are set less restrictively, the server will reject them.
[02:41] <littlegirl> That worked! Thanks so much!!!!
[02:42] <littlegirl> Apparently it cared what the key names were. (:
[02:42] <j1mc> woo!  the government ban on your kubuntu contributions has been rescinded!
[02:42] <j1mc> sweet freedom. :)
[02:42] <littlegirl> Weehaw! And you all were there for my very first push. (:
[02:42] <j1mc> congrats
[02:43] <littlegirl> j1mc: Thanks! I might still need help. I have a few more steps to follow before I'm done with it officially. (:
[02:43] <j1mc> ok
[02:47] <littlegirl> Oh, that is so cool. It looks like I'm good to go, and can have some fun with documentation. (:
[02:48] <littlegirl> Thank you so much to all of you - I couldn't have done it without your help. (:
[02:48]  * littlegirl hugs everyone
[04:12] <vibhav> (12:25:08 PM) sabdfl: if Linux is just another way to run Windows apps, we can't win
[21:17] <Steveiwonder> Hey All, I'm new to ubuntu im a windows bum  but want to change, can anyone recommend a good place to start? or should i just dive in ?
[22:17] <bkerensa> Steveiwonder: should just dive in :D