[02:39] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I need some flag changes in #ubuntu-pe. We're having a meeting on Sunday, and we need to give +votiA to the bot, JoseBot. Also, we need to remove TOPICLOCK and KEEPTOPIC, for the bot to make the changes. The problem is, nobody knows who have flags.
[02:42] <JoseeAntonioR> Can you make those changes, or I need to go to another channel?
[02:55] <ubot2`> jalcine called the ops in #ubuntu-beginners-team ()
[03:02] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: I suggest waiting here for now
[03:03] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: Thank you, Lyz :)
[03:04] <pleia2> sure, hope you can get it sorted without too much trouble :)
[03:04] <pleia2> shame the access list isn't open
[03:04] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: That's the main problem we have, I'll ask the ops to change it too.
[03:05]  * pleia2 nods
[03:06] <JoseeAntonioR> By the way, just found a troll in #ubuntu. It's danielboston26.
[03:43] <m4v> I suppose p3l|c4n0 was #ubuntu-pe's founder, he's not around anymore.
[03:48] <JoseeAntonioR> m4v: Yep, I haven't seen him ever on IRC
[11:23] <jokerdino> hey guys, i would like to request for ubuntu members cloak. here's my launchpad profile: https://launchpad.net/~jokerdino
[11:24] <k1l> jokerdino: congrats on member status. just wait untill the IRCC wakes up and confirms :)
[11:24] <jokerdino> k1l: thanks, i can wait :)
[11:25] <jokerdino> i just wanted to post it here
[11:25] <k1l> yep, that is the right procedure.
[11:26] <jokerdino> is there anything else i have to do that is necessary for the process?
[11:30] <k1l> you need an account on freenode (since you are logged in you got one :) ) and member status. just wait until the ircc reacts. this is not an heavy traffic channel here. but AlanBell and topyli are not marked away, maybe the sneek here in minutes
[11:30] <AlanBell> maybe . . .
[11:31] <k1l> :)
[11:31] <topyli> yeah who knows!
[11:32] <AlanBell> staff can we have an ubuntu/member/jokerdino cloak please for jokerdino
[11:33] <Mkaysi> Shouldn't you !staff ?
[11:33] <topyli> that's more for real emergencies imo
[11:33] <AlanBell> they mostly have "staff" on hilight anyway
[11:34] <Mkaysi> Ok
[11:34]  * Mkaysi didn't know that
[11:35] <jokerdino> i didn't expect to see people on a saturday.
[11:36] <topyli> office hours don't matter to volunteers :)
[11:37] <jokerdino> i see. haha :)
[11:42]  * Myrtti has a look
[11:42] <Myrtti> congrats, jokerdino
[11:43] <jokerdino> thanks Myrtti :)
[11:43] <Myrtti> np
[11:46] <jokerdino> thanks, i can now see the cloak.. :)
[11:50] <topyli> thanks Myrtti
[11:50] <AlanBell> nice cloak jokerdino :) thanks Myrtti
[11:51] <jokerdino> :)
[14:26] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I need some help, on claiming flags from #ubuntu-pe.
[14:27] <jussi> AlanBell: ^^^
[14:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jussi: Thanks :)
[14:28] <AlanBell> hi JoseeAntonioR
[14:28] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: Hello! Should I explain my problem here, or via PM?
[14:28] <AlanBell> I had a look and I can't see the flags at all
[14:28] <AlanBell> here is good
[14:28] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: Yep, that's one of the problems I have
[14:28] <jussi> AlanBell: you need to add tthe ircc account via asking staff
[14:29] <jussi> Once you have +fF, you can add all the resto f the flags and see it
[14:29] <JoseeAntonioR> Well, we're having a meeting on Sunday, and we need to give +votiA to the bot,  JoseBot. Also, we need to remove TOPICLOCK and KEEPTOPIC, for the bot  to make the changes. The problem is, nobody knows who have flags.
[14:29] <AlanBell> ok
[14:30] <JoseeAntonioR> If possible, also to remove the private flags, so anyone can see who have them.
[14:30] <AlanBell> that all sounds reasonable
[14:31] <JoseeAntonioR> It has been a pretty inactive channel, but since we're trying to revive the LoCo, we need access to it.
[14:32] <AlanBell> staff, can we get UbuntuIrcCouncil with founder flags +fF in #ubuntu-pe please
[14:36] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: Shouldn't !staff be called?
[14:37] <AlanBell> I am not in a hurry :) they will see it at some point
[14:37] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: Oh :)
[15:23] <JoseeAntonioR> nothing yet?
[15:23] <AlanBell> all watching the rugby I think
[15:25] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[15:31] <Mkaysi> So I am not the only person asking about using !staff today :)
[15:32] <JoseeAntonioR> Mkaysi: did you asked that before?
[15:32] <Mkaysi> JoseeAntonioR: Yes, someone was asking Ubuntu member cloak and just said "staff"
[15:33] <Mkaysi> I was told that staff usually have "staff" on highlighted words (sorry for highlight spamming)
[15:33] <JoseeAntonioR> then, someone should see it soon
[16:32] <Fuchs> hrm, at least I don't have it as a highlight, so in urgent cases maybe asking in #freenode, the channel you just asked in or via /query might be a better idea </sidenote>
[16:32] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: ^^^
[16:32] <Fuchs> if one of us is on /stats p, contacting him/her is probably the most quick one
[16:36] <AlanBell> mrmist got to it :)
[16:37] <AlanBell> thanks Fuchs
[16:38] <Fuchs> saw it, yes. Sorry for the delay :)
[16:38] <JoseeAntonioR> Fuchs: No problem
[16:38] <AlanBell> oh, is it working right I wonder
[16:39] <AlanBell> I still can't see the access list I think
[16:39] <JoseeAntonioR> same over here, I can't check it, but has UbuntuIrcCouncil got access?
[16:40] <AlanBell> don't think so
[16:40] <JoseeAntonioR> :S
[16:40] <Mkaysi> If AlanBell is in UbuntuIrcCouncil, just add flags +* to yourself.
[16:41] <Mkaysi> You should be able to do it with +Ff and then you should be able to see the flags
[16:42] <AlanBell> ah, right, so I can
[16:42] <AlanBell> thanks Mkaysi
[16:42] <Mkaysi> You're welcome :)
[16:43] <JoseeAntonioR> by the way, I found a troll on #ubuntu, gfc, saying random words to spam the channel
[16:44] <Mkaysi> JoseeAntonioR: Maybe you should !ops there or join #ubuntu-ops
[16:44] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll tell the user to stop spamming, I forgot the first step :)
[16:45] <marienz> Mkaysi: who told you we have that word hilighted? Because I most certainly don't, and I don't *think* most of the rest of us do
[16:45] <AlanBell> 16:46 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 6     JoseBot                +votiA [modified 15 seconds ago]
[16:46] <Mkaysi> marienz: It's just outside my buffer, I can check from logs soon
[16:46] <AlanBell> marienz: it was me, I think some people do
[16:46] <marienz> first I've heard of it
[16:46] <AlanBell> anyhow, there was no particular hurry
[16:46] <Fuchs> I think most don't, but I might be wrong
[16:46] <Mkaysi> Ok
[16:46] <Fuchs> at least the current statistic speaks against it ;)
[16:46]  * Mkaysi thought that it was topyli
[16:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Thanks! Can you please also remove the topiclock, keeptopick and the private flags?
[16:47] <Fuchs> AlanBell: I think it would missfire quite a lot to have this word as a highlight, which would be against it's purpose, because then it would get less attention
[16:47] <AlanBell> probably true
[16:47] <marienz> I guess I could add an exclamation mark followed by that word, much like the ops thing. But I don't think it'd get much use
[16:48] <jussi> !staff  >  marienz
[16:48] <marienz> yes, that's a thing
[16:48] <marienz> so I guess I'd not have to add that for this channel
[16:48] <Fuchs> oh god ...
[16:49] <Mkaysi> jussi: But that has another problem. There are scripts like masshighlightignore for XChat :)
[16:49] <Fuchs> I'd recommend to use /stats p  and contacting people on it before firing this script :)
[16:49] <AlanBell> that is good to know
[16:49] <jussi> now that staff are actually on stats p, that seems reasonable
[16:50] <AlanBell> JoseeAntonioR: all done
[16:50] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: A question, why can't I see the flags? :S
[16:50] <Fuchs> or see whether one of us is currently active in #freenode. Just to get a person before using this shotgun :)
[16:51] <Mkaysi> JoseeAntonioR: Try /msg chanserv access #channel list
[16:51] <Fuchs> JoseeAntonioR: reasons for not seeing flags would be: a channel set private and you not having +A on it
[16:51] <Fuchs> JoseeAntonioR: however, for the channel I think this is about, it should work
[16:51] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: Oh, yep, I see them :) Thanks for all your help!
[16:51] <Mkaysi> Flags requires more permissions
[16:52] <AlanBell> Fuchs: yeah, I didn't want to use the blunderbus :0
[19:19] <bodhizazen> Help with an ubuntu channel pleas
[19:19] <pangolin> AlanBell topyli funkyHat Pici incoming
[19:19] <bodhizazen> channel #ubuntuforums
[19:19] <pangolin> bodhizazen, may as well give some details now, they will end up asking you for them anyway
[19:20] <bodhizazen> The founder, jdong, has been MIA for a long time, can not contact jdong via e-mail, PM on forms, /msg on IRC
[19:20] <bodhizazen> I am on the Forums council
[19:21] <bodhizazen> https://launchpad.net/~forum-council
[19:22] <pangolin> next step in this process requires waiting and patience :)
[19:22] <bodhizazen> yep =)
[19:24] <bodhizazen> I would like to request setting up the FC to own the channel (+F) , but I do not know how to set up group ownership on IRC (I can read on that part), but there is no one with sufficient privileges to make changes
[19:25] <pangolin> The Ubuntu IRC Council will have to request that staff give them the needed flags and all. You can talk to them about owner transfer.
[20:09] <funkyHat> Hi bodhizazen
[20:11] <funkyHat> We (the IRC council) already have +f in #ubuntuforums, which is enough to grant access if more operators are needed
[20:29] <bodhizazen> hey funkyHat , sorry wa AFK
[21:02] <funkyHat> bodhizazen: is that satisfactory? #ubuntuforums is officially under the control of the IRCC so if there are any specific issues we can deal with them, or get them dealt with quickly by freenode staff
[21:02] <bodhizazen> I do not really care who owns #ubuntuforums
[21:03] <bodhizazen> I would like to be able to add / remove ops
[21:03] <bodhizazen> Preferably all FC members would have that privilige
[21:08] <m4v> IRCC, ping
[22:25] <AlanBell> hi m4v
[22:26] <m4v> AlanBell: you might want to check #ubuntu-pe access list, there's one entry that should be removed or fixed.
[22:28] <m4v> AlanBell: there's an entry that gives ops to anyone with the nick Seveas, instead of giving it to his account.
[22:28] <AlanBell> ah right, ok
[22:32] <AlanBell> ok, removed, and sevias has the neverop flag set so I can't add back by account
[22:42] <m4v> thanks AlanBell