[02:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I need some flag changes in #ubuntu-pe. We're having a meeting on Sunday, and we need to give +votiA to the bot, JoseBot. Also, we need to remove TOPICLOCK and KEEPTOPIC, for the bot to make the changes. The problem is, nobody knows who have flags. Can you make those changes, or I need to go to another channel?
[03:02] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: -irc is the right channel, but it's not a great time of day for IRCC folks (very late where most of them are)
[10:28] <vibhav> IS public logging allowed on #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:29] <Myrtti> why?
[10:29] <vibhav> When I get bored, I always read the logs
[10:29] <vibhav> (thats stupid though)
[10:29] <Myrtti> it *never* has been publically logged.
[10:29] <Myrtti> by us
[10:30] <vibhav> But can it be publically logged?
[10:30] <Myrtti> are you planning to?
[10:30] <LjL> no vibhav, public logging is not really allowed
[10:31] <LjL> just keep a client connected 24/7 and log for your own :P
[10:35] <topyli> i can easily think of better hobbies than loggin -ot though
[10:46] <vibhav> sorry for quiting, interwbes went down
[10:46] <vibhav> So , as I was saying, why is publically logging #Ubuntu-offtopic not allowed?
[10:47] <Myrtti> while I write those, can you give why it should?
[10:47] <vibhav> The same reason why other ubuntu related channels are logged
[10:48] <vibhav> solely for the interesting of reading to find out what one has missed
[10:48] <vibhav> interest*
[10:50] <Myrtti> people say stupid things in -offtopic, and they shouldn't be incriminated by others by the logs of those things. Also, -offtopic doesn't contain anything that would benefit from being crawled by google and being indexed.
[10:50] <Myrtti> and other Ubuntu channels aren't logged for interesting reading of what has been missed
[10:51] <Myrtti> it's logged so that decisions and discussions behind them are logged, so that people can find help for their problems with Ubuntu with Google
[10:51] <Myrtti> if you want to read what interesting things you've missed, then do what LjL suggested and many of us do: keep a client connected 24/7 and log your own.
[10:52] <vibhav> But I cant then make them publically available over the internet right?
[10:53] <Myrtti> nope.
[10:53] <Myrtti> why would you?
[10:54] <vibhav> ok thanks
[10:54] <Myrtti> thanks for *not* answering my question
[10:54] <Myrtti> >___<
[11:40] <topyli> heh
[12:49] <oCean> @mark #ubuntu locsmif Still mocking guidelines: in terms of moderation, I've never been in a more uptight channel, and I've seen a lot
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[18:25] <Myrtti> troll.
[18:26] <dsfsd> Hi Myrtti
[18:27] <dsfsd> As per out pm's.......
[18:28] <Myrtti> do you really think that we're silly enough to believe that you were innocently just joining the channel and from some mysterious knowledge pulled the !ops call to start bashing Unity and Ubuntu?
[18:28] <Myrtti> because, we're not.
[18:29] <dsfsd> I knew about the !ops call
[18:29] <dsfsd> I used it because I needed to draw everyones attention to a serious issue
[18:29] <dsfsd> Problem?
[18:29] <dsfsd> If so, just tell me what the problem is rather than jumping in with a ban
[18:29] <Myrtti> no, you don't need to draw everyones attention to this what you call a serious issue.
[18:29] <dsfsd> I am and was being sincere
[18:29] <pangolin> rants belong in blog posts and twitter, not in #ubuntu
[18:30] <Myrtti> the channel is not your soapbox where you can voice your opinion, it's a support channel strictly for support issues.
[18:30] <Myrtti> you're welcome to vent in a blogpost or twitter, just like pangolin said.
[18:31] <Myrtti> right now you seem to be one member of the horde of trolls we've had that have followed the exact pattern you did.
[18:31] <Myrtti> and there's been plenty of them.
[18:31] <dsfsd> Myrtti, ok, I see that you do not approve of what I have done
[18:31] <dsfsd> for that
[18:31] <dsfsd> I am sorrt
[18:31] <dsfsd> *sorry
[18:31] <Myrtti> so to answer to your question or observation "banned by mistake" no, you weren't banned by mistake.
[18:32] <dsfsd> PLease unban
[18:32] <Myrtti> it was fully intentional, just like your canvassing against Unity in #ubuntu was.
[18:32] <Myrtti> why?
[18:32] <Myrtti> why do you want to be unbanned?
[18:32] <dsfsd> because I am sorry, I did not go about it in the right way
[18:32] <dsfsd> I did not mean to cause harm
[18:32] <Myrtti> ok, why do you want to join #ubuntu then?
[18:33] <dsfsd> I have given people support in the past and will do so again, plus.. I have a question about nvidia drivefs
[18:33] <dsfsd> *drivers
[18:33] <dsfsd> from the repo
[18:34] <dsfsd> Myrtti, please?
[18:37] <dsfsd> Hi, can I get my ban lifted please?
[18:37] <Myrtti> please come back in 24 hours and we'll discuss the matter again then.
[18:37] <dsfsd> oh.. really?
[18:37] <dsfsd> There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution!
[18:37] <dsfsd> There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution!
[18:38] <dsfsd> There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution!
[18:38] <dsfsd> There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution! There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution!
[18:38] <Myrtti> make it a bit more then.
[18:38] <Myrtti> suits me.
[18:57] <pangolin> I have something I feel is of extreme importance and must communicate it to the entire community. I will use a non descriptive nick!
[19:16] <bodhizazen> Can I get some help with an ubuntu channel here ?
[19:16] <pangolin> what sort of help?
[19:17] <bodhizazen> The founder (+F) has been mia for some time
[19:18] <Myrtti> !bot > waperboy
[19:18] <bodhizazen> channel #ubuntuforums
[19:18] <pangolin> bodhizazen, ok, join #ubuntu-irc and state the issue there and one of the Group Contacts will see what they can do.
[19:18] <bodhizazen> I have not been able to contact jdong for several months, either on IRC, e-mail, IRC (msg)
[19:23] <pangolin> bodhizazen, if you don't mind parting this channel.
[21:09] <Mamarok> why does the factoid !update point to upgrades? seems quite a bit wrong to me
[22:25] <tsimpson> Mamarok: it has done since 2006