[00:00] <Praxi> FuZi0N, can we get your log file like that guy guy?
[00:00] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, ++++++++1111111111111111
[00:00] <FuZi0N> umm
[00:00] <FuZi0N> im not good with linux
[00:00] <FuZi0N> i dont even know how to creaste a log :S
[00:01] <Praxi> me neither hehe, open a terminal (CTRL ALT T) type cd /temp/vmware-root
[00:01] <dr3mro> FuZi0N, log are created automatically by your distribution
[00:01] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: lol, *do* you? (in response to your "wish")
[00:01] <Quantum_Ion> FuZi0N, Takes a lot of practice and reading but you will learn it eventually
[00:01] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: I'll let you know if/when I finish setting up all the proprietary drivers here lol
[00:01] <Praxi> and look for a file in there, ls when list directory FuZi0N
[00:02] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, +1
[00:02] <FuZi0N> k
[00:02] <FuZi0N> do you know wht path?
[00:02] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: which version of ubuntu do you use?
[00:02] <pragmaticenigma> !ot > dr3mro
[00:02] <Praxi> FuZi0N, in a nutshell, the guy in that thread redownloaded
[00:02] <FuZi0N> 10.04
[00:02] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, +1 thats google stuff lol
[00:02] <Praxi> do you know if your x64 or x86 FuZi0N?
[00:02] <FuZi0N> so you think it was a corrupted download?
[00:03] <FuZi0N> x86
[00:03] <Quantum_Ion> FuZi0N, How much memory ?
[00:03] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: lol
[00:03] <dr3mro> do you guys know  how to disable cd rom of usb modem from automount
[00:04] <Praxi> and you downloaded the x86 version of of vmware player?  that thread, the guy had downloaded a version that was too old for his version of ubuntu
[00:04] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Apprently you need to patch some modules http://superuser.com/questions/139656/how-do-i-install-the-vmware-player-on-ubuntu-10-04-when-it-hangs
[00:04] <schnuffle> So maybe you can use VirtualBox?
[00:04] <Praxi> I'm new to linux also, but I do work with vmware alot FuZi0N :)
[00:04] <gdea73> is it possible to use over 3GB of RAM on a 32-bit Ubuntu install if you use PAE?
[00:04] <gdea73> (and is that optimal compared to using a 64-bit install, for compatibility, drivers, etc.?)
[00:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:05] <dr3mro> gdea73, not all CPUs support PAE
[00:05] <gdea73> and please excuse me if what I just said made absolutely no sense.
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> You can use up to 4 GB of Ram on a 32 bit system
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> PAE has no effect gdea73
[00:05] <gdea73> ah okay. I thought there was some sort of kernel switch (At least for 32-bit XP) that would allow over 4GB.
[00:05] <gdea73> but I figured it was truly the limitations of the architecture - okay that's fine.
[00:05] <FuZi0N> 2GB
[00:06] <pragmaticenigma> nope.. gdea73, its a limitation of the archetecture
[00:06] <gdea73> oh, so it's not plural, sorry :P
[00:06] <gdea73> lol just messing
[00:06] <Quantum_Ion> pragmaticenigma, That's true I usually ask how much ram because if it's over 4GB most likely it's 64bit
[00:06] <FuZi0N> im not a big fan of virtualbox and i already got my virtual machine made in vmware
[00:06] <gdea73> though out of curiosity, did 16-bit systems have an even smaller memory access limit?
[00:06] <gdea73> (would it be 64MB?)
[00:06] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: Yes
[00:06] <songer> hello
[00:07] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Then you'll need to patch vmware player
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: you can calculate it
[00:07] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, I think a Sega Genesis was 16 bit I wonder how much memory it had ?
[00:07] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: I think I attempted to a while ago, in my head, when I came up with 64M. that's why I was wondering if I was right.
[00:07] <Praxi> schnuffle, looking at that thread you posted, that was a hang during install?  I think FuZi0N got it installed succesfully, just can't launch it?
[00:07] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: lol; random...
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: sounds a little low
[00:08] <FuZi0N> yes
[00:08] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, Just out of curiousity had to google it
[00:08] <FuZi0N> when i try to launch it
[00:08] <schnuffle> Praxi: Yes, but the problem is that for getting it up and running you need to fix some vmware kernel modules
[00:08] <FuZi0N> it takes me to a screen saying im missing the right kernel
[00:08] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: I tried to before, and I never found anything.
[00:08] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: you may be right... I don't know. It was a guess basically.
[00:08] <itaylor57> 8 bit systems had a 64M memory limit
[00:09] <FuZi0N> i dont think there is a patch for the newest version is htere?
[00:09] <Quantum_Ion> The closet I cam was this The Sega Saturn has a small internal memory about 2MB
[00:09] <schnuffle> FuZi0N:  which one have you running? uname -a to get that info
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> oh... I'm sorry gdea73 ... PAE does affect the maximum amount of memory
[00:09] <gdea73> itaylor57: ah, alright... so then in that case, it would be...
[00:09] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: yes that's fine I came to that conclusion. I wasn't going to use it. Just wondering.
[00:09] <gdea73> I wonder about random things. All the time. :D
[00:10] <Quantum_Ion> The Sega Saturn was the first video game console to break the 32 bit barrier
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> Though PAE would not be as efficient as having a 64 bit processor
[00:10] <gdea73> wait... but you know, itaylor57, 64 is the square root of 4096M (32-bit limit). I thought that there would be one exponent between each successive (power of two)-bit architecture... ?
[00:11] <gdea73> I can't use a half-exponent and I doubt it's a coincidence that the 32-bit limit is the square of that of the 8-bit architecture.
[00:11] <Quantum_Ion> Those old videogame consoles were so classic
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: it's based in octal notation...
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> err... sorry ... hexal
[00:11] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: oh wait, sorry, I totally misread your post. It *does* affect the maximum memory? Interesting. Still don't plan on using anything like that.
[00:11] <gdea73> ah, that would make sense, regarding the hex notation
[00:12] <gdea73> I'm a little brain-dead for doing some math calculations right now though.
[00:12] <Quantum_Ion> The first Nintendo was 8 bit WOW
[00:12] <gdea73> I have one! NES FTW!
[00:12] <gdea73> I used to play Super Mario Brothers 3 on that alll the time :D
[00:12] <gdea73> back in the day.
[00:12] <Quantum_Ion> Come a long way since the days of the 8 bit console
[00:12] <FuZi0N> im running the latest version
[00:12] <FuZi0N> 4.0.5
[00:13] <gdea73> so true, console gaming has come an incredible way. Gaming in general. The sheer amount of polygons one could render in a mere second of GTA IV, for example, is just incredible.
[00:13] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: And your kernel version?
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> okay guys... I think we should stick to helping others with issues... and not clog up the room with !ot stuff
[00:13] <gdea73> during Ubuntu setup, does it download packages before or after "Copying files..."? Because copying files is taking long enough and from experience I've noticed that the first update takes like an hour on my connection.
[00:14] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: alright, fair enough... I'll leave in the meantime while my HD formats.
[00:14] <newtolin> Can I setup luks in a way so that I have to enter my passphrase only once before booting for mounting volumes on 2 different hard drives? (truecrypt on win can do that, if the volumes have the same passphrase.) If not: what do you think of storing a keyfile for the second disk on the first disk an setup auto mount with that instead of a passphrase?
[00:14] <Praxi> FuZi0N, here is a interesting link farther down in schnuffle 's thread http://jbmoore61.blogspot.com/2010/02/fixing-vmware-workstation-652-and-linux.html  talks about kernel version and a few other things
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: Did you get any further on your project?
[00:15] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: I'm working on it, to some extent, now - I'm reinstalling Ubuntu 10.10 for now, hoping I can get a more stable fglrx system. I was going to try 10.04 but my only CD-Rs are terrible at the moment, and I can't find my USB stick, so I'll just use my existing CD of 10.10 x64.
[00:15] <pragmaticenigma> does fglrx have support for 64bit?
[00:15] <gdea73> the only CD-Rs I have access to are these Memorex "Music" CD-Rs, which make any CD-ROM drive vibrate in terror when inserted. They sound like they're going to explode if I try to write to them, kind of like in that Mythbusters episode... :P
[00:16] <gdea73> fglrx, I thought, did.
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: You can select a lower burn speed when burning discs
[00:16] <gdea73> I'm pretty sure it does, it has separate packages for x64.
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: K, just checking
[00:16] <FuZi0N> how do i uninstall the current version of vmware i have installed?
[00:17] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: I know I can use slower burn speeds, its just that I tend to get erratic CDs with this particular CD-R. Just spinning one up causes that horrible noise, and a lot of vibration, preventing a successful burn. cheap media...
[00:17] <gdea73> * batch of CD-Rs.
[00:18] <FuZi0N> nvm
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: I lost a nice Sony DVD-RW drive to a bad disk... good idea to use those disks sparingly
[00:18] <CFHowlett> FuZi0N   sudo apt-get purge vmware
[00:19] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: sudo vmware-installer -u vmware-player should do the trick
[00:19] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: ouch, yeah I figured I'd wait until I can buy a new batch of 50, this time normal data CD-Rs.
[00:19] <Praxi> gotta run for beer and mexican food, good luck FuZi0N sounds like schnuffle's got ya covered :)
[00:20] <gdea73> Praxi: lol
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: Check your PMs
[00:20] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: if the above fails: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=38
[00:21] <schnuffle> Praxi: have a good meal
[00:21] <Quantum_Ion> I wish they had a wearable computer with Ubuntu Linux on it
[00:22] <chris__> Hey I was wondering if there is anyway to increase my scrollwheel speed in Xbuntu? I tried looking in the mouse settings, it seems much much slower then in windows.
[00:23] <Tunix2> What is Ubuntu 2D? I used to be able to select Gnome Classic from the login screen
[00:25] <droid-0854> Tunix, look up ubuntu forks
[00:26] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Still waiting for your kernel version. Vmware Player 4.x needs a 64Bit kernel. So first thing to check, is your kernel 64Bit
[00:26] <itaylor57> Tunix2, did you just upgrade to 11.10?
[00:27] <Praxi> waiting for my ride for mexican food, tunix ubuntu 2d is for lower performance systems http://lifehacker.com/5735942/unity-2d-speeds-up-ubuntus-unity-interface-on-low+powered-computers
[00:27] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: So if you have only 32Bit you'll have to install the old version 3.x
[00:27] <Tunix2> itaylor57: I install from a 11.10 CD
[00:27] <Praxi> schnuffle, in one of my earlier questions FuZi0N said x86
[00:27] <FuZi0N> yeah... im trying to uninstall it and try 3.0.1
[00:27] <itaylor57> !nounitry | Tunix2 if you want more like gnome classic
[00:27] <valdano113> Hi
[00:27] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Fine, and good luck
[00:27] <itaylor57> !nouniry | Tunix2 if you want more like gnome classic
[00:27] <CFHowlett> valdano113   greetings
[00:28] <itaylor57> !nounity | Tunix2 if you want more like gnome classic
[00:28] <CFHowlett> !nounity|Tunix2
[00:28] <itaylor57> if i could only type
[00:28] <Edisto> I am trying to uninstall and reinstall a program. if its hanging on installation does that mean the file is corrupted?
[00:28] <CFHowlett> Edisto   possibly.  did you get it through software center or otherwise
[00:29] <schnuffle> Edisto: How did you install? From repository?
[00:29] <Praxi> don't think Tunix2 was asking how to not run unity, he was asking what unity2d is?
[00:29] <itmannen> Hello from 12.04 Beta1 in Sweden
[00:29] <CFHowlett> !precise|itmannen
[00:29] <Edisto> otherwise... it installed fine the first time but when i delted the folder and tried to reinstall its just hanging
[00:29] <itmannen> Ok
[00:29] <CFHowlett> Edisto   if not through software center expect the unexpected
[00:29] <Edisto> lol
[00:30] <Tunix2> itaylor57: CFHowlett Will i see any slight performance increases by using classic-gnome?
[00:30] <schnuffle> Edisto: Please be more precise about how you installed what folder you deleted .....
[00:30] <valdano113> i have a problem with my wifi bus card (sagem) i had installed windows wirless drive and i installed the drive.inf but every starup i have to install drive.inf to use net
[00:30] <CFHowlett> Tunix2   I don't/won't use unity as I'm on 10.04 usbunt studio
[00:30] <CFHowlett> sorry but IDK
[00:30] <Edisto> so i did a tar xvfz xamp... -C /opt folder... then a rm -rf lampp
[00:31] <orionsonofneptun> hello
[00:32] <schnuffle> Edisto: Any reason for using xamp? I suggest that you just install apache2,mysql-server,php,phpmyadmin
[00:32] <CFHowlett> Tunix2  x/l/ubuntu are both "lighter" distros for older and lower specification machines.
[00:32] <itaylor57> Tunix2, the fact that your computer came up in unity2d shows that ubuntu doesn't think your computer can handle doing unity3d
[00:33] <raichlea> This is a minor annoyance, but can anybody tell me why I'm unable to change the shortcut to launch a terminal window? I can find it in the menu but I'm unable to change anything
[00:33] <schnuffle> Edisto:  paste a ls -l /opt
[00:33] <Tunix2> itaylor57: I put it in 2d manually
[00:34] <itaylor57> Tunix2, ok didn'tknow that
[00:34] <Tunix2> itaylor57: I was using Xubuntu because I wanted the lightest weight ubuntu install possible except Xubuntu had a lot of issues
[00:34] <itaylor57> Tunix2, there is always xfce
[00:37] <Edisto> schnuffle: i was using everything because i for some reason when I install php... I still can't open local php files it just tries to save them or open with gedit
[00:37] <Edisto> because for remove the i
[00:38] <schnuffle> Edisto: you need to install the apche php module and activate it
[00:39] <ZenGuy311> how can I add the md5 hash of a file in the output of tree alongside the filenames?
[00:39] <spons> wazaaap
[00:39] <Edisto> that is with sudo a2enmod action?
[00:40] <Edisto> i tried that one but it still the same unless there's something different
[00:40] <ZenGuy311> can vlc 2.0 be run on 10.04?
[00:40] <schnuffle> Edisto: Yes and the module is libapache2-mod-php5
[00:41] <Edisto> let me try it again
[00:41] <schnuffle> Edisto: When you install it it should be activated by default
[00:41] <Edisto> yeah which is the crazy part
[00:41] <dysun> hi
[00:41] <dysun> i'm running ubuntu 10.04
[00:42] <dysun> and i have a pci quad nic card
[00:42] <dysun> my motherboard has 4 onboard nics as well
[00:42] <schnuffle> Edisto: Just for you to know lampp may be nice for dev jobs but never use it on production server
[00:42] <dysun> i was wondering if there is a certain way
[00:42] <dysun> to get my nics to load up in the order i want
[00:43] <dysun> can any of you guys help ?
[00:43] <mumixam> you want a certain card to have eth0?
[00:43] <hellyeah> hey
[00:44] <hellyeah> is there anyone who use inkscape
[00:44] <dysun> yeah
[00:44] <soreau> dysun: Are you setting up a server or switch of some kind?
[00:44] <hellyeah> i am in inkscape channel but no one answwer
[00:44] <CFHowlett> hellyeah   sometimes
[00:44] <dysun> soreau: yeah i am
[00:44] <mumixam> dysun: try looking at this file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:44] <soreau> dysun: In the udev file, you can edit the device names for each piece of detected hardware
[00:45] <orionsonofneptun> language
[00:45] <dysun> mumixam, soreau: k thanks guys i'll check it out right now
[00:45] <orionsonofneptun> ubbotu language
[00:45] <soreau> dysun: if you have eth1 - eth8 for instance, try 'grep -Rn eth8 /etc' to get an idea where it's hiding
[00:46] <dysun> soreau: wow this is is exactly what i was looking for. thanks!
[00:46] <soreau> dysun: eth0 - eth7 I guess, grep for eth7 or whatever
[00:48] <Edisto> schnuffle still getting the same thing after I installed apache2,mysql-server,php,phpmyadmin
[00:49] <schnuffle> Edisto: You mean you call a php file and it gets downloaded?
[00:49] <Edisto> schnuffle: i open it with firefox and it says open with gedit or save it won't view
[00:50] <Edisto> schnuffle: did a2enmod php5 and says already enabled
[00:50] <schnuffle> Edisto: so you do a http://localhost/inho.php and it want to open it in Some editor?
[00:50] <schnuffle> Edisto: Did you restart your apaches server?
[00:50] <magicJ> you need to tell apache that this is an executable type pf script
[00:50] <Edisto> ya... actually i'm trying to install word press so i'm just dragging the install.php to the browser or going to file open
[00:51] <Edisto> schnuffle: the localhost works its just opening php file
[00:51] <magicJ> AddHandler cgi-script .php
[00:51] <schnuffle> Edisto: No you need to enter the correct URL into the browser. Wordpress should be in /var/www
[00:51] <schnuffle> magicJ: HE has modphp5 enabled
[00:52] <magicJ> schnuffle:  not enough
[00:52] <schnuffle> Edisto: so if wordpress was extracted to /var/www/wp you need to type http://localhost/wp/install.php
[00:53] <Edisto> i gotcha... it is different from windows =D
[00:53] <Edisto> thanks schnuffle
[00:54] <schnuffle> magicJ: It's enough as you get a conf file which adds a Addtype
[00:55] <dmrlulz> does anyone know how to make the login screen for gdm or lightdm show up in only one monitor? in other words, start xinerama or whatever before starting the desktop?
[00:56] <dmrlulz> i'm trying to use an alternative window manager, but since my X relies on gnome machinery to start non-mirroring multihead, the alt window managers all end up mirrored
[00:59] <drPoO> can anybody point me towards a good gdisk RAID tutorial??
[01:02] <korvin> Hey broz
[01:02] <drPoO> can anybody point me towards a good gdisk RAID tutorial??
[01:03] <schnuffle> drPoO: gdisk?
[01:05] <drPoO> schnuffle,  gdisk - Interactive GUID partition table (GPT) manipulator
[01:06] <schnuffle> drPoO: http://blog.scurker.com/2010/09/installing-ubuntu-10-04-w-raid-1-and-gpt
[01:06] <jesse_> Wee woo
[01:07] <schnuffle> drPoO: in german: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Software-RAID
[01:08] <schnuffle> drPoO: and in english: http://www.cynick.com/2011/12/05/successfully-installing-ubuntu-11-10-with-software-raid/
[01:09] <drPoO> schnuffle, I already installed 10.04 LTS server and I want to create a RAID 1 on 4 3TB HDDs now
[01:10] <drPoO> schnuffle, I know how to do it with fdisk
[01:10] <drPoO> schnuffle, but GPT partitioning is new to me
[01:10] <cassiereroni> I'm a newbie here, 1st visit.  Looking to maybe install Ubantu onto my system but don't know anything about this stuff and scared to death.
[01:11] <schnuffle> drPoO: okay haven't had much experience with GPT yet
[01:11] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: so how can we help?
[01:12] <macer1> Hi
[01:12] <macer1> I have a question :D
[01:12] <drPoO> cassiereroni, just do it! Get rid of windoze or iCrap and go free!
[01:12] <schnuffle> !anyone | macer1
[01:12] <Swurl> drPoO: try using
[01:12] <macer1> uh sorry >.>
[01:12] <cassiereroni> schnuffle, how would I install Ubantu and get rid of Windows?
[01:12] <Swurl> Cassiererni: I can help
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: Are you using Ubuntu at the moment?
[01:13] <drPoO> Swurl, try using what?
[01:13] <macer1> If I have LVM, on that LVM 3 partitions: boot, root(luks), swap(luks) do I have to enter the password two times, one for swap and one for root >.>?
[01:13] <Swurl> mbr
[01:13] <cassiereroni> No, not using Ubantu.  Using Windows 7
[01:13] <Swurl> Get wubi
[01:13] <drPoO> Swurl, mbr?
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> Swurl: cassiereroni mentioned removing Wind
[01:13] <`Korvin> switched to tty1, kdm crashed, and desktp effects turned off opengl to prevent further crashing, now after reverting that, my terminal won't accept background transparency =O
[01:14] <`Korvin> and yes desktop effects ae enabled
[01:14] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: 1.Make a backup, 2. Make a backup, 3. Download and burn a Ubuntu install CD  4. start from that CD, Wipe your disk and install it
[01:14] <cassiereroni> I do have another hard drive on my computer that isn't hooked up because windows won't start if I hook it up.  Could I install Ubantu on that drive?
[01:14] <snickers_> bad horse doesnt want u to make   abackup
[01:14] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: yes
[01:14] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: Yes, of course you can. Just, make sure you backup important things.
[01:15] <Numb3r> hey there
[01:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Numb3r: Hello!
[01:16] <rjman> cassiereroni: have you tried the live cd/usb to make sure you like ubuntu/linux first?
[01:16] <macer1> hm?
[01:16] <cassiereroni> Having a slow time reading everything.  Hang on while I find out where I need to be.
[01:16] <reagle> i'm moving all my desktop to ubuntu 11.10. i really like the ring switcher and it works on my netbook, work PC, but not my home PC. It's not that it doesn't work, it simply doesn't show up in ccsm.
[01:16] <reagle> is there any reason a plugin simply wouldnt' show up?
[01:17] <Quantum_Ion> Just through Ubuntu on all your old PC's and breath new life into them
[01:17] <JoseeAntonioR> reagle: Maybe video settings.
[01:17] <`Korvin> Does anyone have any idea?
[01:17] <macer1> or maybe…just mount the root partition and have the keyfile for swap there, and automount?
[01:17] <cassiereroni> rjman, it doesn't really matter if I like it or not, I just bought this system and just found out 5 minutes ago that windows is pirated.  I need to get it off of my computer....I'm soooo mad!
[01:17] <reagle> JoseeAntonioR: what do you mean? is there a log that would say which plugins failed, some switch for different vid settings?
[01:18] <Quantum_Ion> cassiereroni, lol@pirate Windows
[01:18] <rjman> cassiereroni: ah, i see
[01:18] <reagle> again, the cooler 3d switchers don't even appear in ccsm Windows Management tab
[01:18] <JoseeAntonioR> reagle: I meant, some PCs can't handle Unity.
[01:19] <dmrlulz> how do i start the display manager without display mirroring in a multihead environment?
[01:19] <reagle> unity is OK, this is a different switcher in ccsm. in any case, is that the typical behavior, it tests if the plugin will work and won't show it?
[01:20] <dmrlulz> i want gdm (or lightdm, or whatever) to show a login thing in one monitor, and just background in the other
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> reagle: I don't know, exactly.
[01:22] <Darknessraptor> buenas noches a todos
[01:23] <schnuffle> !sp | Darknessraptor
[01:23] <Darknessraptor> aquí es el canal de soporte de ubuntu?
[01:23] <Darknessraptor> Hi every one?
[01:23] <schnuffle> Darknessraptor: hi, only english, #ubuntu-sp for spanish support
[01:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Darknessraptor: Hola!
[01:24] <itaylor57> !es | Darknessraptor
[01:24] <Darknessraptor> may I ask if here is Ubuntus's suport channel?
[01:24] <schnuffle> Darknessraptor: yes it's the support channel :)
[01:24] <cassiereroni> how do I know what files are important?  Do you mean files that are like, my pictures and files that I have or do you mean files that are part of the system?
[01:25] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: important means that you want to keep them, like photos ........
[01:25] <Darknessraptor> Ok I understand it's not a problem OK :)
[01:25] <Darknessraptor> tks
[01:25] <cassiereroni> Ok, so I don't have to worry about drive files, for cd and dvd or usb?
[01:26] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: no, linux comes with it's own drivers
[01:26] <`Korvin> switched to tty1, kdm crashed, and desktp effects turned off opengl to prevent further crashing, now after reverting that, my terminal won't accept background transparency =O
[01:26] <`Korvin> How can I fix that
[01:26] <`Korvin> It's only my terminal
[01:27] <Numb3r> hey
[01:27] <cassiereroni> Ok, now about this secondary master drive that I have, how would I get it to start up if I can't get windows to load when I hook the power back to it?
[01:28] <`Korvin> cassiereroni: is it an ide drive?
[01:28] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: is it a IDE drive. If so you need to change it to slave mode. Normally there's a sticker on the HDD which states which conf is used for slave mode
[01:28] <cassiereroni> I'm so afraid that I'm going to mess this up and have a very expensive bookend in the end! :(
[01:28] <`Korvin> What schnuffle said
[01:29] <cassiereroni> Korvin, ummm I'll have to check to be sure.
[01:29] <cassiereroni> I don't trust that anything I've been told about this puter is correct.
[01:29] <`Korvin> do you know how to tell the difference?
[01:30] <nicekiwi> I have an Ubnutu LiveCD and a SSD drive that just died.. can I access the SDD somehow?
[01:30] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: You have always the option to boot you ubuntu system from the CD to test it. So the first step - booting from a ubuntu install CD won't change anything
[01:30] <schnuffle> nicekiwi: You can try to mount it of course
[01:30] <`Korvin> nicekiwi, boot up into the live cd and attempt to mount it
[01:30] <cassiereroni> Ah ha!  schnuffle, when I looked at the drive real quick the other day I did notice that that drive was set to slave
[01:30] <`Korvin> if it doesn't mount you're most likely sol
[01:31] <nicekiwi> schnuffle: the BIOS odsnt detect the drive..
[01:31] <nicekiwi> dosnt*
[01:31] <`Korvin> nicekiwi: oh gee
[01:31] <`Korvin> nicekiwi: get an external enclosure
[01:31] <`Korvin> see if you can mount it with the enclosures mb
[01:31] <nicekiwi> `Korvin: I have on, even that dosnt work :( although.. I havnt tried the USB one..
[01:32] <`Korvin> try usb as esata relys on the computers motherboard
[01:33] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: On a IDE bus you can connect 2 drives but one has to be in master mode, the other in slave mode. There's a third option cable select, but I wouldn't use it
[01:34] <`Korvin> I'm going to try restarting terminal
[01:34] <`Korvin> using weechat so I'll brb
[01:36] <nicekiwi> stil didnt work :(
[01:37] <schnuffle> nicekiwi: then I don't see any chance to recover
[01:37] <nicekiwi> </3
[01:38] <cassiereroni> Ok well, here goes everything.  Gonna go see what kind of damage I can do to this thing.  Thanks for the help.  Might be back if I need to and if I can.
[01:38] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: good luck
[01:39] <cassiereroni> Wait....one more question.  Do I burn a copy of Ubantu to CD's or DVD's??
[01:39] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: They fit on a CD :)
[01:39] <cassiereroni> <-----reallly stupid about these things.
[01:40] <cassiereroni> Ok, JoseeAntonioR.  Thanks,
[01:40] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: What can we help you with?
[01:40] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: I prefer to use a USB stick
[01:40] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: As schnuffle said, you can also use a USB stick, instructions are on the download page :)
[01:40] <cassiereroni> schuffle, how big does a usb have to be?
[01:40] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: 1GB at least
[01:41] <cassiereroni> Ok, think I might have one of those.
[01:41] <cassiereroni> Thanks all.
[01:41] <helpme> how I can create a folder shortcut in ubuntu and can see it on ftp
[01:41] <cassiereroni> now how do I get out of here.....(looking)
[01:41] <helpme> I try it the ln command
[01:41] <helpme> but doesn't work
[01:41] <JoseeAntonioR> !enter | helpme
[01:41] <schnuffle> helpme: on the console or with the file manager?
[01:42] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: You can create a shortcut by right-clicking the folder, and selecting Make Link
[01:42] <helpme> console
[01:42] <magiavelico> hola
[01:42] <schnuffle> helpme: paste the command you used.
[01:42] <schnuffle> !es | magiavelico
[01:42] <JoseeAntonioR> magiavelico: Hola! Para soporte en español, únete a #ubuntu-es, escribiendo "/j #ubuntu-es" sin comillas.
[01:42] <helpme> ln -sf /var/www/ /home/user1
[01:42] <magiavelico> ok
[01:43] <schnuffle> helpme: does /home/user1 already exists?
[01:43] <helpme> the command is worked but when I go to the ftp client (filezila) I can't see my folder www
[01:44] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: You should write the path, /var/www
[01:44] <schnuffle> helpme: which directory does your FTP server has as root? /home?
[01:45] <helpme> nmnm
[01:45] <zoggnoff> helpme: sometimes I have use passive mode when doing FTP stuff.
[01:46] <helpme> My FTP server is passive mode
[01:46] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: Are you using lighttpd and vsftpd?
[01:46] <helpme> I'm using apache
[01:47] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: Well, once you are connected to your FTP server, you should write the path location, which is /var/www
[01:48] <zoggnoff> Apache is a Webserver not an ftp daemon, I believe
[01:49] <JoseeAntonioR> zoggnoff: Maybe helpme has installed vsftpd.
[01:49] <helpme> ok, the shortcut is working weel in the command promt (SSH), but when I go to the folder /home/user1 I can't see the shortcut www
[01:49] <helpme>  installed proftpd
[01:50] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: What FTP client are you using?
[01:50] <schnuffle> helpme: of course not, to see the www folder ln -s /var/www /home/user1/www
[01:50] <helpme> filezila
[01:50] <helpme> so how I can make it visible
[01:51] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: Then, on the remote site field, type in /var/www.
[01:51] <zoggnoff> maybe after you sign in to ftp you are in /home/user as pwd
[01:55] <helpme> so
[01:55] <zykotic10> schnuffle: your link command is gonna create a /home/user1/www/www link i think.  helpme
[01:56] <helpme> gonna?
[01:56] <zykotic10> sorry - going to
[01:56] <schnuffle> zykotic10: nope it will create /home/user1/www
[01:57] <zykotic10> schnuffle: might depend of if /home/user1/www exists right now or not as a directory
[01:57] <zykotic10> schnuffle: i don't typically specify ln names, makes life easier
[01:58] <schnuffle> zykotic10: that's right but it would need to have a / at the end
[01:58] <zykotic10> schnuffle: sometime the reverse is true, changing the name is real handy ;)
[01:58] <zykotic10> schnuffle: i did test it with a ~/www and it created ~/www/www
[01:58] <schnuffle> helpme: I can help you, but for that you need to answer the questions
[01:59] <helpme> sure
[01:59] <helpme> what is your questions
[01:59] <schnuffle> helpme: okay, first you aim is to access /var/www through your ftp server? Is that right?
[02:01] <helpme> yes
[02:02] <avuton> How do I display the time on the menu bar in 12.04?
[02:02] <spacebarbarian> did sun jdk get removed from the 10.04 parnter repo ?
[02:02] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: oracle decision to change licensing terms
[02:02] <dmrlulz> 4/quit
[02:02] <schnuffle> helpme: okay, when you login with your ftp client, what do you see? The home directory of the user?
[02:03] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: sorry, yes - because: first note ;)
[02:03] <spacebarbarian> hmm I thought that as from the main repo , I remember installing off the parner repo just a few weeks ago
[02:03] <JoseeAntonioR> spacebarbarian: It has been replaced by openjdk-r-jre
[02:03] <itaylor57> !java | spacebarbarian
[02:03] <zykotic10> JoseeAntonioR: "replaced" ??? really.
[02:04] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, you can still run which ever java you wish to
[02:04] <JoseeAntonioR> zykotic10: Not exactly replaced, but it's a suggestion to install that package instead of sun-
[02:04] <spacebarbarian> http://beeznest.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/howto-install-suns-java-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[02:04] <spacebarbarian> I have been using that method for a while but since a few weeks that seems to have stopped working, so I guess this is something new ?
[02:05] <zykotic10> JoseeAntonioR: oh i agree with that.  but replaced is the wrong word ;)  i currently think: A) use openjava B) drop java are the options
[02:06] <spacebarbarian> hmm, look what i found :P http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/sun-java6/
[02:06] <spacebarbarian> how come i cant get this !
[02:07] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: fyi the old java versions may have security issues
[02:07] <zoggnoff> join #Android
[02:07] <zoggnoff> sorry
[02:08] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, if you read the link given before it tells you how to install sun java 6
[02:08] <spacebarbarian> yes I folllowed that method and it still cant find those packages
[02:09] <spacebarbarian> but they seem to be there in the archive
[02:09] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: you can get java from oracle, don't use any old ubuntu repo versions
[02:09] <schnuffle> helpme: ?
[02:10] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java works just fine
[02:10] <zykotic10> itaylor57: +1
[02:11] <helpme> schnuffle: I found it
[02:12] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, i am currently running open jdk 6,7  and oracle 7
[02:12] <itaylor57> and i could run oracle 6 if i wanted
[02:12] <schnuffle> helpme: You found your remote control? :)
[02:12] <spacebarbarian> yeah i would just do open jdk but not installing this for my own use so gotta stick to the listed requirements :P
[02:14] <zykotic10> itaylor57: i don't understand the community effort to replace OpenOffice with LibreOffice, yet even after this recent oracle java / licensing fiasco openjava still isn't enouraged by the community? </OT sorry>
[02:15] <dysun> hi all
[02:15] <dysun> i have a 4 port PCIe serial card
[02:15] <dysun> i was just wondering
[02:15] <dysun> everytime i have to do an insmod
[02:15] <dysun> w/ name of the driver
[02:15] <zykotic10> !enter | dysun
[02:16] <dysun> i was wondering if there is a way to load up the driver without having to insmod everytime i log in
[02:16] <itaylor57> zykotic10, yea i can't contribute to open java because oracle requires you to sign an agreement that violates my companys intellecutal property agreement
[02:17] <zykotic10> itaylor57: EXACTLY - so why does anyone use java? </OT i promise>
[02:20] <avuton> Is there any way to get the time/date on the classic gnome menu (12.04)
[02:20] <itaylor57> !precise | avuton
[02:21] <JoseeAntonioR> avuton: You can join #ubuntu+1 for the betta support.
[02:26] <morpheus> hi
[02:29] <Guest99495> Greetings!
[02:31] <diablo> jay
[02:37] <Roge152> Hello, does anyone know of a good tutorial for getting oracle Java installed ?
[02:38] <itaylor57> Roge152, look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:40] <Roge152> ty itaylor57
[02:40] <waxstone> Im in Ubuntu 10.10 (UNITY) I have Pidgin open but cant see it. Its on none of the worksheets and doesnt show when I alt tab
[02:40] <waxstone> 11.10 sorry
[02:48] <Roge152> Is there a keyboard shortcut to cycle Virtual Desktops ?
[02:49] <log> Roge152: You mean Workspaces?
[02:49] <Roge152> yes
[02:49] <log> Roge152: Alt-->Ctrl-->Arrow Key
[02:49] <Roge152> Excellent, thanks.
[02:49] <log> Roge152: No problem.
[02:50] <Roge152> I don't see whats with all the unity complaints, Its actually very sexy
[02:51] <joeandkim> hi
[02:52] <log> Roge152: I personally like it. :)
[02:52] <waxstone> i like it but it definitely has bugs
[02:52] <Roge152> yeah, I especially like how I can hide the "Launcher" automaticly and it pops back when I mouse over it.
[02:52] <Roge152> Makes for a clean desktop
[02:52] <log> waxstone: It's gotten much, much better in the 12.04 beta.
[02:53] <Roge152> waxstone: not as many as kde, I tried kde a few times, and everything would crash
[02:53] <dmrlulz> how do i stop X from resetting back to mirror-mode when i log out and go back to gdm/lightdm?
[02:53] <Roge152> Im running the beta log, seems fine so far.
[02:53] <log> Roge152: Ah. For future reference, all development version support is in #ubuntu+1. :)
[02:53] <waxstone> log, Roge152: sweet! cant wait
[02:53] <Roge152> thaks
[02:53] <Roge152> thanks*
[02:54] <log> You're welcome, Roge152.
[02:54] <log> waxstone: It's going to be an awesome release. LTS one at that.
[02:54] <dmrlulz> is there some way to dump my current monitors.xml enhanced X settings into an xorg.conf?
[02:55] <JoseeAntonioR> Is there any op over here?
[02:55] <log> JoseeAntonioR: You can find the ops in #ubuntu-ops if you need to discuss something with them privately.
[02:59] <danielboston26> who here bought a new ipad today?
[03:00] <waxstone> !ot| danielboston26
[03:01] <danielboston26> lets start a flame war
[03:01] <danielboston26> emacs vs vi
[03:01] <dmrlulz> danielboston26: some of us are trying to fix stuff
[03:01] <JoseeAntonioR> danielboston26: Please, follow the bot instructions. This is a support channel.
[03:02] <danielboston26> what would you rathe rdo fix stuff or have fun
[03:03] <dmrlulz> does anyone know what gnome does with monitors.xml to change the display?
[03:06] <Joneeetux> bein' a live cd fanatic, i booted a couple recently; they asked for username and password!  I did not know what to do to continue??
[03:07] <Joneeetux> I was wantin to try PC/OS regular build.  But the live cd wants password and username.  Anyone had this??
[03:08] <Joneeetux> How can a live cd want a username and password ??
[03:09] <Joneeetux> This do not make any sense.
[03:10] <Joneeetux> Has anyone tried to boot a live environment, and then it ask for username and pwd, before let you continue?
[03:10] <berith> Hi
[03:11] <genbattle> i'm trying to build a program on ubuntu 64, but it keeps failing because it apparently can't find the GL library. GL is installed to /usr/lib64 but not /usr/lib, so i'm guessing this is what's causing the problem.
[03:11] <genbattle> error: http://paste.debian.net/160076/
[03:11] <Joneeetux> How you logon to a live cd session, if you not have a username and pwd??
[03:12] <JoseeAntonioR> Joneeetux: You don't need one, the desktop opens itself :)
[03:12] <Joneeetux> Anyone??
[03:12] <Joneeetux> It would not for me.
[03:12] <plipp> Joneeetux: The same way you logon to a normal desktop - you don't log into other people's accounts. :p
[03:13] <Joneeetux> I just wanted to try PC/OS as a live session on my new netbook.
[03:13] <JoseeAntonioR> Joneeetux: If it doesn't work, try with username ubuntu, and no password
[03:13] <psusi> Joneeetux, the livecd auto logs in by default... user: ubuntu, no password
[03:14] <Joneeetux> I'll try "user", or "ubuntu".
[03:14] <Jordan_U> danielboston26: Since you're not responding to my PMs I will now change your temporary quiet to a permanent ban. If you'd like to discuss this ban please join #ubuntu-ops.
[03:14] <Joneeetux> Thank You.  This may be the tip I needed.
[03:19] <Zaitzev> hm, i did "unity --reset" in terminal and the stuff reset, but the terminal apparently didn't end the operation; it's not back to the promptline and if I close it unity crashes/quits
[03:20] <carlosqueso> Zaitzev, you have to put an & after it
[03:21] <Zaitzev> doh ofc
[03:22] <Zaitzev> somehow I notice now that the system is a lot more responsive than before the reset
[03:22] <Zaitzev> most noticeably is when I click and drag an open window around, it doesn't actually "lag" any.
[03:22] <Zaitzev> it does to some extent, but not as much.
[03:23] <carlosqueso> you must be killing something laggy....I never used unity, switched to lubuntu when ATI stopped supporting my GPU
[03:23] <Zaitzev> which makes me wonder, why does it even lag? is compiz that cpu intensive or something? oO
[03:23] <Roge152> yeah, I must admit. I notice some lag myself on the desktop
[03:24] <Zaitzev> for example, I click and hold on the titlebar of a window
[03:24] <Zaitzev> I can drag the mouse pointer across the opposite screen edge, and the window still hasn't followed.
[03:24] <Roge152> wow, that's pretty bad
[03:25] <Zaitzev> and the next time I try, it follows, albeit laggy, jittering sort of
[03:37] <Zaitzev> does anyone here actually use Ubuntu One? It's what, 5 gigs of space for free?
[03:37] <Guest75353> yes
[03:38] <Visitor_099> I'm on Ubuntu server 10.01 (or something like that) : I'm attempting the remove the "minbif-common" package installed with aptitude and I get the following message : http://pastebin.com/zfSXPEhj
[03:38] <rodhash> 35 00 17 03 * /usr/bin/xclock
[03:38] <rodhash> Hello guys!! Why this line doesn't work on crontab? In the prompt it works as usual...
[03:39] <rodhash> CRON[22713]: (CRON) error (grandchild #22714 failed with exit status 1)
[03:39] <rodhash> CRON[22713]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[03:39] <rodhash> I found this on logs
[03:39] <Jordan_U> rodhash: $DISPLAY needs to be set.
[03:40] <rodhash> Jordan_U, good point... how can I do that pls?
[03:41] <Guest75353> "can't open framebuffer device",who know how to solve that
[03:41] <Visitor_099> this is related I think : http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-01/msg09978.html
[03:41] <Visitor_099> how should I fix this?
[03:43] <arulmozhi> anybody has experrience with wxStyledTextCtrl?????
[03:44] <kesi> Hi all, this may not be the right place to ask this but I'm trying to install a program on Ocelot that needs the full path to the JDK and I can't figure out what to give it. I know I have Java 6 and 7 openJDK's installed
[03:44] <Visitor_099> I commented out the problematic line in the uninstall script and I'll do it manually.
[03:47] <d21anthony> Has anyone experienced an issue where your screen/display changes to a greyish and gets pixelated?
[03:48] <d21anthony> I think its a graphics driver issue but im not sure how to test that
[03:49] <d21anthony> I have a Samsung NP300U1A-A01US
[03:50] <d21anthony> I recently learned that I have a 64 bit processor and I'm currently installing the 64bit version - 11.10
[03:51] <jtrucks> so lucid only has irssi 0.8.14. Is there a package for 0.8.15 somewhere? I'm trying to find one..
[03:53] <d21anthony> Im crossing my fingers that was the issue but its probably not the true issu
[03:53] <d21anthony> How can I test or see if Im using the correct drivers in CLI or UI
[03:57] <kesi> If a program wants the path to the JDK in Ocelot, what would that be?
[03:59] <dr_willis> jtrucks:  look for a ppa or use source.  or use weechat like I. do.  :)
[04:00] <jtrucks> dr_willis: heh. I'm too deep in my irssi config t switch.
[04:00] <jtrucks> ppa?
[04:00] <dr_willis> !ppa
[04:01] <jtrucks> ahhh. okay cool thanks.
[04:01] <jtrucks> I got bit by someo f the ssl bugs hardcore yesterday
[04:01] <dr_willis> shouldent be too hard to compile new irssi
[04:02] <dr_willis> I never can get the ssl sasl stuff working on freenode
[04:04] <sambagirl> is there a special build or version of virtual box for ubuntu?
[04:04] <dr_willis> !vbox
[04:04] <trishxo> how to run a .exe application?
[04:04] <trishxo> like a keygen cracker
[04:04] <dr_willis> not really a special  build
[04:05] <dr_willis> trishxo:  with. wine.       wine foo.exe
[04:05] <sambagirl> ok
[04:05] <trishxo> dr_willis: i have wine, it wouldn't run.
[04:05] <dr_willis> !appdb
[04:05] <trishxo> dr_willis: installations run tho.
[04:06] <dr_willis> run it from term
[04:06] <dr_willis>  look for errors
[04:06] <trishxo> dr_willis: how to run from term lol
[04:06] <dr_willis> i showed how above.....
[04:06] <dr_willis> wine foo.exe
[04:08] <gdea73> hey Ubuntu users :) - I'm back with a fresh install of 10.10 (for now), and got the WiFi working again. Now I'm back to try getting fglrx up.
[04:09] <quincy> Is anybody else unable to change screen brightness after hibernating?
[04:10] <gdea73> quincy: I haven't heard of that problem before. If you'd like I can try to do so on my laptop and let you know what happens?
[04:10] <gdea73> though suspend/hibernate are usually problematic in various ways :P
[04:11] <Ian_Moone> How do I delete the last panel?
[04:11] <quincy> geda73 no you don't have to, it's a pain.
[04:11] <quincy> I wasn't sure if it was just me
[04:11] <Ian_Moone> Then, can I add it back?
[04:12] <gdea73> Ian_Moone, you can revert the panels using a revert panels script. I can provide it... if I find it...
[04:12] <hwq001> might be a noob question : can eAccelerator+memcache  work together (just single server)? or i just need to use one of them
[04:12] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: if you want all panels gone, I think you just have to terminate the gnome-panel process
[04:12] <gdea73> quincy: lol too late, the laptop's hibernating now. Let me wake it up and see. Though if I've noticed, suspend/hibernate issues are *common* but usually non-specific; depends on hardware greatly.
[04:13] <Ian_Moone> @gdea73 I want to get rid of them and use a dock, but if I don't like it, I want to put it back.
[04:13] <quincy> gdea73: lol alright
[04:13] <dr_willis> its normally easier to make a custome x session then removeing the panels
[04:13] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: okay, I am pretty sure that's doable. Well first try ending the gnome-panel(s?) process in Gnome System Montior
[04:14] <dr_willis> webupd8 site had an artical on that
[04:14] <gdea73> you can relaunch it by either running it as a command, or doing sudo start gnome-panel(s?)
[04:14] <gdea73> I'm not very sure though
[04:14] <gdea73> dr_willis: go ahead and take over, I'm kind of guessing here..
[04:14] <dr_willis> you dont want sudo with rhat
[04:14] <gdea73> wow hibernation takes forever with 6GB of RAM, but brightness still worked @quincy ;)
[04:15] <Ian_Moone> @gdea73 it self-restarts.
[04:15] <trishxo> how to join another room?
[04:15] <gdea73> dr_willis: my bad.... :P
[04:15] <gdea73> trishxo: ... /join #channelname?
[04:15] <quincy> hmm.. alright, thanks gdea73
[04:15] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: ah, that's what I thought... hmm... better have dr_willis help you if he's willing, he is likely more knowledgeable about this
[04:16] <Ian_Moone> Okay. Thanks. Where do I find him?
[04:16] <Ian_Moone> this room?
[04:16] <gdea73> yes, he seemed to know something about the subject, though I can't speak on his behalf
[04:16] <gdea73> dr_willis: if you have any advice to help him disable gnome-panel for a dock-only configuration, I think he'd need/appreciate it ;)
[04:17] <Ian_Moone> dr_willis: Yes. he's right. I would appreciate it
[04:17] <Ian_Moone> gdea73: Thanks
[04:18] <gdea73> well in the meantime I suppose I can try to help, Ian_Moone.
[04:18] <gdea73> What version of Ubuntu are you using? (Are you running Gnome 2 or 3?)
[04:19] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: This may be helpfuo to you, though I'm not sure to which version of Ubuntu it pertains: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7987602&postcount=4
[04:19] <scientes> why arn't my gvfs ssh not showing up in ~/.gvfs POSIX?
[04:20] <scientes> has FUSE mounting been turned into a privlidged operation in some way?
[04:21] <Ian_Moone> gdea73: Thanks, but (I found that on my own a little bit ago) I don't have a "gnome" folder there.
[04:22] <gdea73> hmm... again, what release/version of Ubuntu?
[04:22] <gdea73> @general channel: I've installed fglrx, now how could I possibly configure it for each adapter so I can switch them on each reboot (if I so decide?)
[04:22] <gdea73> haha, must I install ubunu twice with the same home and swap, and swap OSes by each boot? o.O
[04:23] <twoboxen> Does anyone know how ubuntu for android will actually work?  Does it use a loop file?
[04:24] <dr_willis> Ian_Moone: webupd8 blog site had an artical on making a custome compiz session
[04:25] <dr_willis> i might have it bookmarked..   delicious.com/dr_willis
[04:25] <gdea73> I really need to know, does anyone know where the AMD Catalyst Control Center *configuation file* is? (NOT just xorg.conf; there must be one for Catalyst itself?)
[04:26] <sambagirl> never had this error in previous installs of vbox Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpython2.7 (>= 2.7)
[04:26] <sambagirl> so i do an apt-get libpython2.7 install right?
[04:26] <dr_willis> !info libpython
[04:27] <dr_willis> sambagirl: what ubuntu version you got
[04:27] <sambagirl> 10.04 on tthis laptop
[04:28] <sambagirl> tell you what i will just update it to 10.10
[04:29] <stiLizer> hello
[04:30] <Ian_Moone> I just settled on enabling the hide buttons.
[04:30] <gdea73> sambagirl: haha yeah 10.10 FTW. I like 10.10 the best, except support for it is ending soon. 10.04 will last for a while, it's an LTS release.
[04:30] <Ian_Moone> Thanks for your help.
[04:30] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: okay, hope that works for you, I'd say it's a decent compromise. Those coupled with autohide maybe?
[04:30] <Aliv3> I have a 10.10 desktop and server iso if anyone wants them
[04:30] <gdea73> I did what I could, ;)
[04:30] <Ian_Moone> good idea
[04:30] <sambagirl> yes gdea73 i agree on other laptops we use 10.10
[04:31] <Aliv3> 11.04 was a hard fail
[04:31] <sambagirl> i fouund my 5.x hoary cd too might install that instead :D
[04:31] <gdea73> 10.10 ISOs are still available from releases.ubuntu.com, Aliv3
[04:31] <sambagirl> except we could never get wireless to work
[04:31] <dr_willis> http://delicious.com/redirect?url=http%3A//www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-create-standalone-compiz-session.html
[04:31] <Aliv3> 11.10 is buggy as ... but I only like it for gnome3
[04:31] <ApocGoD> Anyone know anything about the X1650 drivers on Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:32] <dr_willis> no panels needed...
[04:32] <Aliv3> in my opinion unity is trashed
[04:32] <ApocGoD> I'm running Gnome 3
[04:32] <dr_willis> in my oponion people like to complain too much... :)
[04:32] <Aliv3> ApocGoD: Gnome 3 is pretty nice though hu?
[04:33] <Aliv3> dr_willis: true, true.
[04:33] <gdea73> YEAH! I got Hybrid Graphics to work (well enough? :D)
[04:33] <Aliv3> I mainly say this is because I get so many errors from it and dash is broken my applications don't show I've fixed it a couple times but it keeps breaking, and it locks up my system
[04:33] <gdea73> if anyone ever wants to know, ever... I enabled the discrete graphics in BIOS, installed Catalyst, KEPT catalyst on the powerful GPU setting
[04:34] <gdea73> and then rebooted, disabled the discrete graphics in BIOS, and Catalyst just uses the most "powerful" available, which is then just the integrated GPU :D
[04:34] <gdea73> so it works, including a BIOS setting change and reboot, but that's still awesome
[04:34] <dr_willis> unity nd gnome shell are both wwworks in progress.. both are much better in the 12.x release
[04:35] <szal> wwworks?
[04:35] <dr_willis> yyyyyes
[04:35] <Aliv3> 12.04 won't install
[04:36] <Aliv3> whats the command for distro upgrade +1 again?
[04:36] <dr_willis> i always clean install
[04:38] <dr_willis> i wonder if dirty nick changeing every min is a kickable offense...
[04:39] <gdea73> lol, yes, I wonder... :P
[04:40] <kalimojo> OTS CHANGING LIKE PASTING
[04:40] <kalimojo> its
[04:42] <Nicolas_Leonida2> hello
[04:42] <dr_willis> jello!
[04:43] <szal> yello(w)?
[04:43] <Nicolas_Leonida2> I'm looking for a free dynamic dns service that would have a client for ubuntu
[04:43] <dr_willis> Nicolas_Leonida2:  most do. dyndns works
[04:43] <dr_willis> others exist also.
[04:43] <jecky_> hello
[04:43] <Nicolas_Leonida2> dr_willis: what is the client I should use that I need to install to update the IP when it changes?
[04:44] <dr_willis> my router supports like 4 of thhem. i rarely need a client on the os.
[04:44] <dr_willis> !find dyndns
[04:44] <jecky_> hello i am new to git does any one has solution that how can i learn git fast
[04:44] <dr_willis> !info dyndns
[04:45] <dr_willis> !info tinydyndns
[04:45] <Nicolas_Leonida2> dr_willis: I've heard other people suggesting dyndns as well, but it doesn't seem to be free (maybe it was before) http://dyn.com/dns/free-vs-vip/
[04:45] <Nicolas_Leonida2> they expire your hostname after 30 days
[04:45] <dr_willis> Nicolas_Leonida2:  if its not used.. they expire
[04:46] <mkultra_> im gonna try 12.04 beta
[04:46] <dr_willis> ive been using dyndns for free for a year+ free as of last week...
[04:46] <mkultra_> im not digging 11.10
[04:46] <sacarlson> jecky_: might take a look at gitg  gui for git
[04:46] <mkultra_> i found a service thats free that u dont have to login to all the t ime
[04:46] <jecky__> oh tht's nice
[04:46] <dr_willis> basic dyndns service works for me
[04:47] <mkultra_> yeah i dont like it
[04:47] <dr_willis> i just use it to point to my znc server mainly
[04:47] <jecky__> sacarlson_ where will I find the gitg gui? as i m new to git
[04:47] <mkultra_> maybe no-ip.com?
[04:48] <szal> mkultra_: isn't that DynDNS too?
[04:48] <jecky__> i have installed git and worked little but interested in learning more
[04:48] <sacarlson> jecky__: sudo apt-get install gitg ; should do it
[04:48] <jecky__> thanx
[04:48] <mkultra_> idk, my stuffs on my server =(
[04:48] <mkultra_> id have to consult its configs, and its at home, im at college
[04:50] <mkultra_> it will mail me in 6 months to tell me whats up
[04:50] <sattu94> dr_willis, which router do you have ?
[04:50] <jecky__> sacarlson_ Gitg has been setup in  my machine so how can i access it now
[04:51] <dr_willis> sattu94:  just a linksys valet i think. last 3 ive had all support several dynamic dns services
[04:51] <jecky__> sacarlson_ and one more question how can i upload file on git which is located on my machine?
[04:52] <dr_willis> !ops Smell_Dinglehopp  Is being stupid....
[04:53] <dr_willis> oops..
[04:53] <sacarlson> jecky__: it should be in your application programing section to bring it up or just type gitg in a term,  upload I guess you want to look at github.com
[04:53] <jecky__> yea how can i see a file on github.com?
[04:53] <sattu94> dr_willis, mine supports only DynDNS... which is not free anymore.. so I have to use the No-IP2 desktop client.. :(
[04:54] <szal> dr_willis: looks to me like either a script or malware
[04:54] <Nicolas_Leonida2> dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1933291 no more free dyndns :(
[04:54] <jecky__> sacarlson_ Yea i found gitg and i want to upload a file in github.com so how is it possible?
[04:54] <sattu94> Nicolas_Leonida2, yes it isnt free anymore.. I use No-IP2..
[04:55] <sacarlson> jecky__: you can see individual files in your browser or git clone  http://github.com/nameofrepository
[04:55] <Nicolas_Leonida2> sattu94: that's the client name? or the website?
[04:56] <kalimojo> why do people keep changing their nicks. i mean whats the point
[04:56] <sattu94> Nicolas_Leonida2, the whole thing is called no-ip2
[04:56] <szal> kalimojo: see above
[04:57] <sacarlson> jecky__: http://help.github.com/create-a-repo/
[04:57] <sattu94> Nicolas_Leonida2, website--> http://www.no-ip.com
[04:57] <perl_jam> what's a good perl ide for linux?
[04:57] <kalimojo> szat : above where ?
[04:58] <tm_> disk has error what to do,  64 bit lts versoiopn
[04:58] <szal> kalimojo: [05:54:02] <szal> dr_willis: looks to me like either a script or malware <- and fix your IRC font so you can properly read letters, or use tab completion ;)
[04:59] <tm_> should i burn another disk? :P
[05:00] <szal> tm_: (1) check checksum of ISO; (2) burn or dub to USB drive, in case of burning preferably use half max speed; (3) boot; (4) run self test routine to check integrity
[05:01] <lwizardl> hello
[05:01] <Sph3r3> Hi everyone! :)
[05:01] <mkultra_> hi
[05:01] <ApocGoD> Can someone help me find the Radeon X1650 drivers for 11.10?
[05:01] <Sph3r3> does anyone know how to set up the backup to save to a windows share?
[05:01] <lwizardl> anyone know what .config/trolltech.conf is on root directory ?
[05:02] <szal> ApocGoD: afaik, that card is too old to be supported by the proprietary driver; thus your only option is the free radeon driver
[05:02] <jecky__> sacarlson_ what can be the name of repository?
[05:03] <dr_willis> Sph3r3:  mount the share somewhere. save to it as you would any other directory
[05:03] <szal> !pm | ApocGoD
[05:03] <sacarlson> jecky__: anything less than 20 leters I guess,  browse the site to get an idea
[05:04] <jecky__> sacarlson_ ok thanks i m checking for it
[05:05] <ApocGoD> Sorry, Szal. Forgot the command to return your whisper.
[05:07] <gdea73> yay, I got hybrid graphics to work! (woo!)
[05:07] <emu> Are most usb drives nowadays bootable?
[05:07] <gdea73> as a result, I couldn't help myself, but to advertise my "guide," in my old thread
[05:07] <gdea73> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11769285&postcount=1
[05:08] <gdea73> ... um... you can ... disregard that. sorry, you can get back to whatever troubleshoooting
[05:08] <gdea73> emu: I'm not sure of the context, but usually USB drives are bootable, it's more a question of the BIOS support for it.
[05:08] <rodhash> Guys... my compiz became too unstable after some upgrade... is that possible to roll back?
[05:09] <Sph3r3> dr_willis: thanks - I just needed a static IP so the backup system could mount it
[05:10] <dr_willis> Sph3r3:  a fstab entry can do that.
[05:12] <dr_willis> !ops
[05:12] <dr_willis> annoying bot/spam/malware ...
[05:13] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: Who, where?
[05:14] <KindOne> that nick ^ Dookie_Diarrhea_
[05:14] <dr_willis> there ya go...
[05:14] <dr_willis> nick changeing every 60 sec..
[05:18] <phy1729> To run sshfs on the server only ssh has to be installed is what I've read; however, I'm getting a "remote host has disconnected" error
[05:18] <dr_willis> remote host has ssh server installed?
[05:19] <phy1729> yes
[05:19] <phy1729> I am using public key and have ssh'd into the server sucessfully
[05:20] <szal> phy1729: a case of remote host disconnecting after $time of inactivity?
[05:20] <phy1729> szal: it gives the error immedatly I can't connect
[05:20] <dr_willis> sshfs might support the -v or -vv option for verbose error messages
[05:21] <phy1729> -o sshfs_debug is unhelpful as well
[05:26] <drounse> i have a few questions
[05:28] <drounse> if you use a dhcp server can you have a wireless router plugged into it?
[05:28] <phy1729> I would see running sshfs sudo'd creates problems
[05:28] <phy1729> So I just chown'd and went on my merry way
[05:30] <drounse> so if my setup went: modem--> dhcp server--> switch--> wireless router
[05:30] <drounse> would it conflict ip addresses if things were connected to my switch and the wireless router
[05:31] <szal> just set them to use different IP ranges, don't see the problem
[05:31] <drounse> szal ok thank you
[05:32] <drounse> and one more question, im fixing someones computer, they found it at their new business but the hard drives are RAID 0 if i mount that in linux am i going to get two mounts or one mount
[05:34] <karan> #kernel
[05:38] <dr_willis> drounse:  the controller they are using may be the imporntant issue.
[05:38] <Maskil> I have a question about Cinnamon and Gnome shell if anyone is around
[05:38] <szal> "imporntant".. :O
[05:38] <hydrox24_> Maskil: go ahead!
[05:39] <drounse> ok, right now its not starting but i need to take a good look at it tomorrow
[05:39] <Maskil> I have loaded Gnome Shell before, and then wanted to try out cinnamon
[05:39] <dr_willis> but since cinamom isent a ubuntu project.. dont be suprised if we dont know
[05:39] <Maskil> loaded cinnamon, and was really using it
[05:39] <Maskil> Computer crashed, and I needed to reload
[05:40] <Maskil> I have installed Cinnamon, but it's not the same
[05:40] <dr_willis> crashed how? reload what.
[05:40] <Maskil> should I also have gnome shell installed?
[05:40] <Maskil> reloaded OS
[05:40] <dr_willis> must of been a nasty crash
[05:40] <hydrox24_> drounse: you still there?
[05:40] <drounse> hydrox24_ yea
[05:41] <Maskil> I am trying to keep things streamlined as possible
[05:41] <hydrox24_> to mount the two drives as RAID 0, use the mdadm command like so:
[05:41] <dr_willis> could be cinnamon has been updated with new defaults
[05:41] <hydrox24_> mdadm --assemble /dev/md5 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1
[05:41] <hydrox24_> but with the numbers adjusted appropriately.
[05:42] <hydrox24_> then, run the mount command for /dev/md5 like so:
[05:42] <funkiwan> wondering if anyone can help me with an osx boot issue, or tell me where i should ask?
[05:42] <hydrox24_> mount /dev/md5 /media/WHATEVEr
[05:42] <drounse> hydrox24_ ok thank you
[05:43] <hydrox24_> drounse: no problem, see http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-a-Linux-RAID-0-Disk-Array-to-a-RAID-1 for more details
[05:43] <cfoch3> hello
[05:43] <Maskil> ok.  Thank you
[05:43] <p3rsist>  Hi guys. Im trying to append another public key (from a second host) to the remote authorized_keys host, but it doesn't work. Do I have to use authorized_keys2?
[05:43] <cfoch3> my name is Fabián Orccón
[05:43] <hydrox24_> funkiwan: if it is to do with ubuntu in some way then simply ask away, if not, try the official apple lines
[05:44] <drounse> i know this isnt ubuntu related, but does pfsense act as a dhcp server?
[05:44] <cfoch3> I'm a guy from Perú who has used Ubuntu since 2008
[05:44] <cfoch3> but... it doesn't matter
[05:44] <cfoch3> I have a plan
[05:44] <cfoch3> or maybe a fantasy
[05:44] <hydrox24_> p3rsist: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-multiple-ssh-key-based-authentication.html
[05:45] <funkiwan> yeah, not an ubuntu issue, i've just had good luck here in the past with my linux issues. was wondering if there's an apple/osx friendly channel
[05:45] <hydrox24_> cfoch3: This souds like it will be cool, but it would be better to post on a forum (atleast after you've told us :)) so that it is always there forever for anyone to see.
[05:46] <cfoch3> I think the only way to diffuse the free software is selling a distro
[05:46] <szal> cfoch3: any of that has something to do w/ support?
[05:46] <dr_willis> 'diffuse' ? and you can sell distros..  so.. whats the actual  support issue
[05:47] <cfoch3> not just that
[05:47] <cfoch3> that's stupid now
[05:47] <cfoch3> why?
[05:47]  * dr_willis is waits for an actual 'point'
[05:47] <drounse> dr_willis how do you do that?
[05:47] <cfoch3> there is a little bit of publicity
[05:47] <dr_willis> so far you have said very little cfoch3 ...
[05:48] <hydrox24_> cfoch3: what do you mean by diffuse?
[05:49] <cfoch3> make linux the most used operative system
[05:49] <cfoch3> what do we need?
[05:49] <szal> cfoch3: have fun waiting for that day
[05:49] <drounse> cfoch3 you dont want it to be the most used
[05:49] <dr_willis> linux is gaining in that every day...
[05:50] <Jordan_U> !ot | cfoch3
[05:50] <cfoch3> the most have to be convinced that there is an operative system better than the common
[05:51] <zykotic10> !info saidar
[05:51] <cfoch3> ok
[05:51] <drounse> cfoch3 once linux becomes the most used (which it will never be) it will be cluttered with pay services and that junk
[05:52] <cfoch3> i want to think you're moderating, and not you don't matter it
[05:53] <dr_willis> or it will be so commonplace users dont even think about the os and focus on the apps.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> drounse: dr_willis: As I said to cfoch3, please move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:53] <cfoch3> if somebody is interested, I'll be in #ubuntu-offtopic talking about that
[05:53] <dr_willis> but enough rambling. ;) any real support issues
[05:54] <drounse> cfoch3 well if i remember correctly about the license, even if you pay for it the end consumer needs to recieve the source and then can give it away for free
[05:54] <cfoch3> I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic now
[05:57] <scientes> what type of disk space waste do you get (in terms of stale files) if you take a 10.04 liveCD and then install all the updates
[05:57] <scientes> is there a way to measure the amount of stale files?
[05:57] <ubntu1> proprietary drivers arent working for shit ;-;
[05:57]  * zykotic10 thinks the "post pc era" translates to post microsoft.  ubuntu's bug 1 might be within reach?  do more people use andorid or microsoft for there day-to-day lives? </OT>
[05:58] <dr_willis> scientes:  never really heard of much wasted space. perhaps backed up conffigs
[05:58] <scientes> dr_willis, no i'm talking with the squashfs?
[05:58] <scientes> like a usb stick install
[05:59] <scientes> i'm wondering how btrfs vs overlayfs w/ squashfs xz compare on this
[06:00] <dr_willis> scientes:  you mean a persistant save file setup on a live-flash setup
[06:00] <scientes> dr_willis, yeah
[06:00] <scientes> like how does it compare with using btrfs ro snapshot
[06:00] <dr_willis> scientes:  i normally people to not 'update/upgrade' such a setup. but to do a full normal install
[06:01] <scientes> and how much better is squashfs vs a r/w filesystem
[06:01] <tanath> can anyone tell me why i always get an authentication error when i install packages that create a new user?
[06:01] <scientes> dr_willis, i'm not talking about "normal" im talking about a hypothetical
[06:01] <tanath> it asks for a password, and then doesn't accept it
[06:01] <tanath> http://pastebin.com/99WZ1TDt
[06:01] <scientes> I want a "factory reset" functionality
[06:02] <dr_willis> scientes:  no idea then. im all about what ive done for 'real'
[06:02] <tanath> scientes, like what you get from 'lethe'?
[06:03] <scientes> tanath, its not packaged, and the sf page is in french
[06:03] <kanliot> how do you reboot in unity
[06:04] <kanliot> ?
[06:04] <scientes> tanath, ubuntu livecd does it with overlayfs
[06:04] <tanath> scientes, nevertheless, it works. you install and set up, and when you reboot it's back as it was
[06:04] <scientes> using squashfs
[06:04] <dr_willis> kanliot:  logout/exit somthhing in top right menu item
[06:04] <tanath> scientes, like deep freeze for windows
[06:04] <scientes> tanath, no, i want to allow modifications, but ALLOW a factory reset
[06:04] <scientes> not REQUIRE
[06:04] <scientes> there is a difference
[06:04] <kanliot> nope, just shutdown and suspend.  no reboot
[06:05] <tanath> scientes, you boot thawed for that
[06:05] <scientes> and with squashfs it would be more compressed
[06:05] <Fyodorovna> kanliot, the shutdown leads to a reboot or shutdown gui.
[06:05] <scientes> cause its specifically designed for ro
[06:05] <dr_willis> shutdown asks.. i thought. but im on 12.x
[06:05] <afsal> how to install jahshaka???
[06:06] <tanath> scientes, then reboot back into frozen mode after making changes
[06:06] <kanliot> i'm on 12.04 too.  still can't find reboot.  thanks anyhow.  :)
[06:06] <scientes> tanath, oh, its based on aufs
[06:06] <tanath> scientes, then any changes don't stick
[06:06] <scientes> aufs is no longer in lubuntu kernel, they have moved to overlayfs, which might get merged
[06:06] <dr_willis> kanliot:  shutdown - reboot in the dialog . i recall
[06:07] <scientes> tanath, ahhh i gotcha, that is a differn't use case than i have thought of, useful software, but i dont think its what i want
[06:07] <scientes> tanath, if you use btrfs with snapshots you can do the same thing, but in real time, without rebooting
[06:07] <tanath> scientes, if you want to be able to go back to original setup before any changes, then make a separate backup
[06:07] <scientes> (well you have to reboot to go backwards on your main disk most likely, might cause stability problems otherwise)
[06:08] <afsal> anybody know how to install jahshaka??? any repository??
[06:08]  * zykotic10 thinks "sudo shutdown -r now" would probably work
[06:08] <scientes> tanath, that just wastes alot of space
[06:08] <tanath> scientes, sounds functionally like a virtual machine
[06:08] <dr_willis> !ppa
[06:08] <scientes> but i guess we could do it on a dvd
[06:08] <tanath> scientes, how so?
[06:08] <harsh343> I got an error http://pastebin.com/Dn1nNYkW Unable to MOunt MAIN what i can do ?
[06:08] <scientes> tanath, two copies of everything
[06:08] <harsh343> please help me I am newbie in ubuntu
[06:08] <dr_willis> sounds like stuff tinycore. or puppylinux is doing.. but im just skimming thr channel
[06:08] <tanath> scientes, a single backup of original setup so you can do a real 'factory reset' ?
[06:09] <tanath> scientes, not of everything, just of the _original_ setup
[06:09] <harsh343> dr_willis, hi
[06:09] <scientes> tanath, yeah, its cooler, if you can actually  use the original setup, while also not changing it, and keeping your changes
[06:09] <tanath> scientes, in case you make changes you regret
[06:09] <scientes> anyways, it seems you arn't thinking as much about what is possible
[06:11] <Splooshie123> harsh343, are you trying to mount an ntfs partition?
[06:11] <scientes> dr_willis, is it possible to install the liveCD installer on a normal system, then burn it to a CD, and use it as an install CD?
[06:11] <tanath> can anyone explain why this always fails? won't accept any password: http://pastebin.com/99WZ1TDt
[06:11] <zykotic10> Splooshie123: all the NTFS stuff would seem to indicate yes ;)
[06:12] <harsh343> Splooshie123, rightnow i am not trying anything I have install XP and ubuntu some month before anyways it working fine before but from some days problem occurs with my D Drive when i click on D drive in ubuntu i got this message, while in XP it works fine
[06:12] <Splooshie123> try installing ntfsprogs
[06:12] <emu> Is Ubuntu netbook remix still a thing?
[06:12] <tanath> scientes, btrfs looks interesting
[06:13] <zykotic10> emu: no, it's Unity - which is now the desktop install
[06:13] <harsh343> Splooshie123, hows ?
[06:13] <Splooshie123> harsh343, what about your C drive? can you mount that?
[06:13] <scientes> tanath, SuSe and fedora are probably going to use it by default in the semi-near future
[06:13] <Splooshie123> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[06:14] <harsh343> Splooshie123, C drive open fine
[06:14] <harsh343> only problem with D Drive not open
[06:14] <harsh343> in ubuntu
[06:14] <tanath> scientes, doesn't seem to be anything in ubuntu repos for making btrfs file systems. my gparted lacks the ability...
[06:15] <emu> zykotic10: Thanks
[06:15] <scientes> tanath, what version are you using?
[06:15] <tanath> scientes, ubuntu? gparted? parted?
[06:15] <scientes> ubuntu
[06:15] <dr_willis> scientes:  you mean make a custome instller cd that way?
[06:15] <tanath> 11.10
[06:15] <scientes> dr_willis, yeah
[06:15] <harsh343> what i can do ?
[06:15] <scientes> with a decent work-flow for development
[06:16] <scientes> tanath, apt-get install btrfs-tools
[06:16] <scientes> my root is btrfs
[06:16] <dr_willis> scientes:  it will do a normal install. your persistant file changes will not get moved over
[06:16] <tanath> scientes, that must be from a custom/3rd-party repo
[06:17] <tanath> scientes, wait... what
[06:17] <tanath> scientes, installing it worked, but it wouldn't show up in search
[06:17] <ApocGoD> st
[06:17] <ApocGoD> Ok, i'm ordering a new video card to use with Ubuntu 11.10, what should I get?
[06:17] <ApocGoD> I have a 90$ limit, lol
[06:18] <dr_willis> ApocGoD:  a nvidia thats been out for a while...
[06:18] <scientes> tanath, you have to click "show technical items" if you are in software-center
[06:18] <harsh343> dr_willis, any help
[06:18] <tanath> scientes, using apt-cache
[06:18] <dr_willis> harsh343:  with what?
[06:19] <ApocGoD> Thanks.
[06:19] <mrcaesard> how do u guys like ubuntu?
[06:19] <tanath> scientes, never use software center. terminal or synaptic
[06:19] <dr_willis> mrcaesard:  it works.. got a support question?
[06:19] <harsh343> I got an error http://pastebin.com/Dn1nNYkW Unable to MOunt MAIN what i can do ?
[06:19] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: in a perfect world i'd suggest intel (but wait, they don't make "cards"), so nvidia with it's propritary driver gets my vote.  ATI was SO late in the game, when nvidia could run 3d under linux/bsd/solaris.
[06:20] <tanath> or gdebi
[06:20] <lifestream> I'm trying to style a gtkrc file but I can't figure out the styleproprety for this "gripper". If you open thunar, then open the sidebar, see how there's a gripper to adjust the width? What's that styleproprety called? Thanks!
[06:20] <ApocGoD> Ok, Zykotic10. Will be checking out Nvidia real quick.
[06:21] <harsh343> dr_willis, error Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: Zero run length: Input/output error
[06:21] <dr_willis> harsh343:  if its a ntfs partion have windows fix it .
[06:21] <scientes> tanath, what did you use to install btrfs-tools?
[06:21] <dr_willis> harsh343:  io error = disk may be dieing
[06:21] <harsh343> dr_willis, in windows D drive works fine but not in ubuntu so what i can do ?
[06:21] <zykotic10> dr_willis: +1 on I/O probably means dieing
[06:22] <harsh343> but some days before it works fine for me
[06:22] <tanath> scientes, aptitude
[06:22] <scientes> ahh gotcha
[06:22] <tanath> scientes, er, apt-get, since i pasted
[06:22] <ApocGoD> How do I whisper you back, Zykotic10?
[06:22] <tanath> scientes, weird, gparted still won't let me make btrfs
[06:22] <scientes> yeah aptitude has all sorts of wierd groupings so you have to hit "/" "<enter>" alot to search around
[06:22] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: don't ;)  just kidding "/msg zykotic10 foo"
[06:23] <tanath> scientes, oh, i just pass paramaters and use it like apt-get. don't really use the interface
[06:23] <dr_willis> harsh343:  and last week my goldfish was fine.. now hes dead...
[06:23] <dr_willis> harsh343:  ;)
[06:23] <tanath> scientes, main benefit is it's easier to type since at the 'i' you can use tab for autocomplete :P
[06:24] <scientes> tanath, well, there certainly are many ways to skin a cat in the debian world
[06:24] <tanath> mm
[06:24] <scientes> haha, yeah i always mistype install isntall
[06:25] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: sorry, feel free to PM me :)
[06:26] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: OH, if you're not registered maybe you cant!
[06:26] <zykotic10> can someone who isn't registered on freenode try and PM me please.  (strange request i know)
[06:26] <zenith> hello guys. i have an strange question. does any of you know an application for ubuntu that lets you store files in your yahoo mail account? There are apps for windows, but i haven't found any for linux
[06:27] <tanath> scientes, oh, i think i figured it. unallocated space was too small :P will let me do it to a usb
[06:27] <dr_willis> i never can rember the mode setting for that zykotic10
[06:27] <harsh343> dr_willis, so what i can do now my goldfish is died
[06:27] <harsh343> ?
[06:27] <zykotic10> dr_willis: lol - it is because of you mentioning it the other night i have it set ;)
[06:27] <dr_willis> zenith:  perhaps some of the fuse tools.
[06:27] <zykotic10> dr_willis: +R
[06:28] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you did do as it said and let windows check the fs?
[06:28] <zenith> dr_willis, really?
[06:28] <tanath> scientes, so how would i actually make use of the fancy btrfs stuff?
[06:28] <harsh343> dr_willis, ok
[06:28] <harsh343> means it is not possible from ubuntu so solve this problem ?
[06:28] <scientes> tanath,
 mrcaesard:  it works.. got a support question?
 I got an error http://pastebin.com/Dn1nNYkW Unable to MOunt MAIN what i can do ?
[06:28] <scientes> er rsry
[06:28] <FloodBot1> scientes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <scientes> tanath, https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/
[06:29] <scientes> tanath, and https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/articles/c/o/n/Conversion_from_Ext3_6e03.html
[06:29] <zykotic10> FYI my poll attempt to get a non registered user either failed, or failed - not sure.  so ApocGoD not sure if you can msg me or not.  see "/msg ubottu register" if you can't ;)
[06:31] <tanath> scientes, can't load the second link. ssl complaint loop
[06:32] <tanath> scientes, and http forwards me to https
[06:32] <pank> .
[06:32] <tanath> scientes, make that both links
[06:34] <ApocGoD> So, i'm downloading Ubuntu 8.04
[06:34] <ApocGoD> Going to try the free option before I go out and buy a new video card, haha
[06:34] <scientes> tanath, just override the ssl error
[06:34] <rurufufuss> is there a command line tool that can access / modify the clipboard?
[06:34] <cipher__> can i develop with opengl 4.x on linux? or is mesa my only option (at spec 1.3)
[06:35] <tanath> scientes, can't. as i said, it's a loop
[06:35] <scientes> tanath, it requires a few clicks in firefox, but it works
[06:35] <tanath> scientes, i don't really use firefox
[06:35] <tanath> scientes, this looks like a possible downside of btrfs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#Transactions
[06:36] <dr_willis> rurufufuss:  yes there are. check the repos
[06:36] <dr_willis> bbl.  battry is dead.
[06:36] <scientes> tanath, that is actually a feature that no other filesystem has
[06:36] <rurufufuss> dr_willis: what's the name of the program by any chance?
[06:36] <zykotic10> rurufufuss: i really want to say "yes" but can't remember the proof.  good luck... gnu/linux "clipboard" has been a nightmare forever (how many are there?  3 i think?)
[06:36] <scientes> tanath, you are just getting mislead by the word "very limited"
[06:36] <scientes> which is really in comparison with databases, not filesystems
[06:37] <scientes> and only a very specific type of databses at that
[06:37] <tanath> scientes, hrm, just a chrome thing it seems. prolly 'cause i block cookies by default or something
[06:37] <rurufufuss> zykotic10: well, there's the x selection (middle click) and the other one..
[06:37] <scientes> tanath, no, its much easier in chromium to override ssl errors
[06:37] <zykotic10> rurufufuss: i know at one point i could name a 3rd ;)
[06:37] <scientes> tanath, you just have to click the "go to site" button
[06:38] <tanath> scientes, i clicked proceed anyway, and it didn't work. back at same place
[06:38] <tanath> went to http, and it forwards back to https
[06:38] <scientes> tanath, wait, kernel.org's certificate is good
[06:38] <scientes> tanath, are you at work?
[06:38] <tanath> no
[06:38] <tanath> but two separate browsers have complained about it now
[06:38] <scientes> click on the blue/purple thing to the right of the url
[06:39] <scientes> *left
[06:39] <scientes> tell me what the "verified for:" says, and then click "view certifiicate"
[06:39] <scientes> (in firefox)
[06:39] <hydrox24_> ApocGoD: why are you using such an old version of ubuntu?
[06:39] <tanath> scientes, Server's certificate is not trusted
[06:40] <scientes> tanath, of course, but what does it say under "verified for"
[06:40] <scientes> after clicking that purple bar, and then clicking "more information"
[06:40] <hydrox24_> tanath: scientes is this all about that wikipedia link?
[06:40] <scientes> hydrox24_, no, its about the kernel.org ssl certificate
[06:40] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: is it ok if i try to PM you?  i think that will work.
[06:40] <frankpad> How can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[06:41] <tanath> scientes, *.wiki.kernel.org what you're looking for?
[06:41] <scientes> tanath, no, i'm looking for the sha1 fingerprint and the issues by organization (O)
[06:41] <hydrox24_> tanath: if you type in https://www.kernel.org instead of https://kernel.org it's fine
[06:41] <zykotic10> frankpad: if you are using the non-free hplip <- or whatever it's called, driver - then maybe not???
[06:42] <scientes> hydrox24_, we were actually using the wiki.kernel.org certificate
[06:42] <tanath> The Linux Kernel Organization & 46 49 30 F8 68 69 A9 2A A6 8A 5B 55 0A 57 F0 C0 7D AA BE 21
[06:42] <hydrox24_> ApocGoD: You still there?
[06:42] <scientes> tanath, hmm, that one should work
[06:42] <scientes> that is the same certificate i have
[06:42] <scientes> tanath, do other ssl websites work?
[06:42] <tanath> hydrox24_, first, www is deprecated. second, it's a copied url
[06:43] <scientes> like does https://encrypted.google.com/ work
[06:43] <tanath> scientes, yes
[06:43] <scientes> well fuck me i have no idea
[06:43] <hydrox24_> tanath: fair enough. but how is www. depreciated? I thought it was simply auto-completed when you typed without it in modern browsers?
[06:43] <scientes> that certificate is good
[06:44] <scientes> what i was worried about was that whole thing of some employeers using root certificates to MITM/spy on their employees
[06:44] <frankpad> zykotic10, can you help me to set Ubuntu to ignore the chip?
[06:44] <tanath> hydrox24_, www has been deprecated for a long time: http://no-www.org/
[06:44] <zykotic10> frankpad: no, sorry
[06:45] <scientes> tanath, thats just not true, google for example prefers www.google.com
[06:45] <frankpad> How can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[06:45] <scientes> and will redirect you, tanath
[06:45] <tanath> hydrox24_, silly sites that don't know better forward people to www.* instead of forwarding www.* to *
[06:45] <zykotic10> frankpad: what is that propritary HP driver called?
[06:45] <anjs> hello..!!!
[06:45] <tanath> scientes, that means it's not deprecated?
[06:45] <anjs> hi everyone
[06:45] <scientes> haha, that site is idiotic tanath
[06:45] <scientes> http://www.yes-www.org/
[06:46] <frankpad> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html is that it?
[06:46] <anjs> hello
[06:46] <st1> window focus is controlled by compiz right?
[06:46] <scientes> hahahah http://www.www.extra-www.org/
[06:46] <st1> or metacity ?
[06:46] <szal> !ot | scientes
[06:48] <tanath> scientes, well, whether it's deprecated or not, www is silly
[06:50] <guest0012983> hello...  can someone recommend the best available text-to-speech program available?  there appear to be quite a few in ubuntu software center i am just wondering if any one os the best
[06:52] <lazik> What's up ubuntu lovers
[06:52] <scientes> tanath, everybody should bu using SRV records, but that doesn't mean everyone does it
[06:53] <drounse> guest0012983 orca i think is one
[06:54] <wifioregon> My friend wants me to burn him 300 copies of his music cd.  Using Ubuntu 10.04, what is the best way to rip the cd in its best quality possible and burn it?  I've been using k3b, but it makes me copy the from the master disc first and then stick in the blank disc. (I only have one drive). THANKS
[06:55] <scientes> wifioregon, just copy the CD to an .iso
[06:55] <scientes> which is an EXACT copy of the original
[06:55] <frankpad> guest0012983, check out http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
[06:55] <wifioregon> do you know the best way to make it into an iso?
[06:55] <scientes> wel i could do it with dd, but you should probably avoid that
[06:56] <scientes> and use brasero
[06:56] <linux_probe> 300 copies, wow, that will take some time :-p
[06:56] <wifioregon> I know!!! but he's paying $400
[06:56] <scientes> linux_probe, its pretty streamlined
[06:56] <linux_probe> streamlined sure
[06:56] <wifioregon> should I burn them at 4x to be safe?
[06:56] <linux_probe> burner killer check
[06:56] <scientes> in that it will autoeject, and start up again when you put in the next one
[06:56] <frankpad> How I can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[06:56] <scientes> wifioregon, you shouldn't use memorex
[06:56] <wifioregon> scientes:  thanks by the way
[06:56] <scientes> wifioregon, basically pay 20c, not 10c per CD
[06:57] <scientes> and you will be fine, audio CD's don't need as good of CDs, cause they have alot of error check codes and its very low density
[06:57] <wifioregon> so I should just set k3b to "auto" for speed?
[06:57] <scientes> if you have a 52x burner (you should), burn it at 48x
[06:57] <wifioregon> oh okay
[06:57] <wifioregon> thanks!
[06:58] <tanath> scientes, well, i found a downside, and a reason distros shouldn't adopt btrfs yet: "The Btrfs disk format is not yet finalized, and it currently does not handle disk full conditions at all. Things are under heavy development, and Btrfs is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review."
[06:58] <scientes> and if you have buffer underrun protection (you should), then there is no problem in burning fast
[06:58] <scientes> wifioregon, all that "burn it slow" stuff came from a time when there was no buffer underflow protection
[06:58] <wifioregon> scientes:  sorry but I'm not seeing how to create an iso using brasero
[06:58] <tanath> scientes, i always have issues with brasero. nothing beats k3b
[06:58] <lazik> I have a motherboard with a i7 but the lan chipset is a seperate powerpc subsystem. It's a freescale powerquicc processor with an ethernet controller. In ubuntu 11.10, no driver kick in to support it. However in the extended kernel drivers, I found freescale source code for drivers. I should be able to recompile the new linux kernel, install and use the device?
[06:58] <wifioregon> tanath: how do I make k3b create an iso of the disc?
[06:58] <scientes> so if your hard drive or OS couldn't keep up, then you got another coffee table coaster
[06:59] <scientes> wifioregon, "disc copy"
[06:59] <wifioregon> scientes: I only have one drive
[06:59] <scientes> wifioregon, it will prompt you for a location of the image file
[06:59] <scientes> that is a iso wifioregon
[06:59] <wifioregon> oHHH
[06:59] <wifioregon> I see..it has a pulldown menu...
[06:59] <wifioregon> my defualt option wasnt image...
[06:59]  * wifioregon slaps himself
[06:59] <tanath> wifioregon, tools > copy medium > only create image
[06:59] <wifioregon> sorry
[06:59] <wifioregon> total newb
[06:59] <FloodBot1> wifioregon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <scientes> wifioregon, and then after that use "burn image"
[07:00] <frankpad> How I can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[07:00] <scientes> wifioregon, however that doesn't look like the right tool cause it doesn't have a "copy" option
[07:00] <scientes> to do it in a highly optimized way
[07:00] <scientes> wifioregon, so you should install k3b to get that feature
[07:01] <wifioregon> scientes:  shoot...iso isnt an option..only cue and a couple others
[07:01] <wifioregon> scientes:  I have k3b installed
[07:01] <scientes> wifioregon, iso IS not only an option, but the default
[07:02] <tanath> scientes, you can't hate on memorex. brand name is irrelevant
[07:02] <jecky__> if we make 2 branches in github and modify readme in both branch differently and while merging should the diff should be albe to view in both
[07:02] <scientes> its short for ISO9660
[07:02] <scientes> tanath, yes i know they dont own the factories, but memorex is infamous for buying shitty chinese CDs that suck
[07:03] <scientes> and selling them for 10c instead of 20c
[07:03] <wifioregon> scientes:  not in mine...Im using ubuntu 10.04..for many reasons..11.10 doesnt work with MOST of my hardware
[07:03] <tanath> hm
[07:03] <wifioregon> plus VERY buggy
[07:03] <scientes> the whole world round, i even talked to a russian that confirmed it
[07:03] <ifansyah> halo
[07:03] <frankpad> How I can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[07:03] <fre3bird> uc bash
[07:03] <tanath> wifioregon, did you follow my k3b directions?
[07:03] <Rounin> Hm, I don't get it... Every time I upgrade to a new distro, I get this same problem... How do I say no to the TrueType core fonts EULA?
[07:03] <wifioregon> So the way I figured it out......goto k3b....more.....rip audio cd...then there are tons of options...including...wav....raw....ogg
[07:03] <Rounin> There's an OK button there, but there's no Cancel button
[07:03] <scientes> frankpad, that doesn't happen in ubuntu, it happens in the printer
[07:04] <Rounin> If I press Escape, the EULA comes up again
[07:04] <wifioregon> tanath:  OH i thought that was for brasero!
[07:04] <tanath> heh
[07:04] <wifioregon> tanath: THANKS!
[07:04] <tanath> ;)
[07:04] <scientes> rounin use xkill
[07:04] <scientes> Rounin, oh wait, don't do that
[07:04] <tanath> wifioregon, i was the one who said to use k3b :P
[07:04] <scientes> Rounin, just uninstall the package, 1 sec
[07:05] <scientes> frankpad, and it is a very difficult problem http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2007/fall/antifeatures/ http://wiki.mako.cc/Antifeatures
[07:05] <wifioregon> tanath: I got confused...and was like brasero doesn't have that option! lol
[07:05] <Rounin> Well, I've uninstalled it many times though, scientes, but it keeps coming back, like a virus
[07:05] <Rounin> It must be part of some meta-package or other
[07:05] <frankpad> scientes, how come the printer manual says that you can continue printing even if the low-toner indicator is on? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02003596&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_us/c02003596/loc:3&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=3965851
[07:05] <scientes> Rounin, ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:05] <tanath> wifioregon, k3b does everything, and default settings usually do great
[07:06] <scientes> and you might have to also uninstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:06] <scientes> Rounin, ^
[07:06] <Rounin> Ah... So either you get one extra or all of them, eh :P
[07:07] <scientes> frankpad this is the linux/mac driver, so try here: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[07:08] <scientes> frankpad, (and you already have that driver, so dont try installing it)
[07:08] <tanath> scientes, also rather important: "Btrfs does not yet have a fsck tool that can fix errors"
[07:08] <scientes> tanath, please dont tell me things i know
[07:08] <scientes> Rounin, any luck?
[07:08] <frankpad> That's right. I have that driver installed. So how can I continue printing?
[07:08] <tanath> scientes, give me telepathy and we'll see
[07:09] <tanath> scientes, was making a point
[07:09] <scientes> Rounin, also try apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:09] <tanath> scientes, btrfs sounds good, and i was ready to jump in, but it's not ready yet
[07:09] <scientes> frankpad, i don't know, but you might try to figure it out at that site
[07:10] <Rounin> I've already done that several times, scientes, and I can't do it again without running dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install and so on
[07:10] <frankpad> Obviously HP wants me to buy a new cartridge but this one is full of toner.
[07:10] <Rounin> Since aborting the corefonts thing causes the upgrade process to be interrupted
[07:10] <scientes> Rounin, its apt-get -f install that is bringing the package back
[07:10] <Rounin> Canonical must really want me to have those fonts
[07:10] <scientes> Rounin, you have to get rid of the package that depends on that package
[07:10] <tanath> frankpad, hate those shenanigans. refilled one myself and reset the ink level, and it still acts like there's no ink after a couple sheets
[07:11] <Rounin> Ah! So perhaps I can find out what packages depend on it, and that'll solve it
[07:11] <tanath> frankpad, i heard you need an older printer without the chip to be able to refill successfully
[07:11] <frankpad> tanath, I don't mind the indicator... but the printer won't print at all
[07:11] <scientes> Rounin, and if you are in an infinite loop, try it with dpkg -r  ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:11] <scientes> Rounin, which bypasses all dependancy resolution
[07:12] <frankpad> I get a message saying that there is no toner when test pages come out so bold
[07:12] <tanath> frankpad, no, apparently it doesn't just complain about ink, but actually acts as if it wasn't refilled
[07:12] <tanath> due to the chip
[07:12] <tanath> to force you to buy more
[07:12] <scientes> ^^^^^
[07:12] <frankpad> I see... so I guess I will need one of those chip resetters
[07:13] <tanath> frankpad, is there such a thing?
[07:13] <frankpad> yes! I saw them on YouTube
[07:13] <scientes> frankpad, i've heard that alot of hp printers can remember 3 max cartraiges
[07:13] <tanath> heh
[07:13] <scientes> but these things change
[07:13] <scientes> http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2007/fall/antifeatures/
[07:13] <scientes> ^ for an essay on this sort of thing
[07:13] <Rounin> Thanks, scientes
[07:14] <scientes> Rounin, np
[07:16] <cipher__> can anyone help me install opengl 4.0 drivers?
[07:16] <frankpad> Here's the chip resetter http://youtu.be/2DPIh2KJnlQ
[07:16] <ultrixx> frankpad: looks like a fake url
[07:16] <frankpad> It is not
[07:17] <szal> cipher__: does your gfx card support that?
[07:17] <cipher__> szal: well maybe not, it's a pretty terrible card: gt525m
[07:17] <scientes> ultrixx, thats is official youtube/google stuff
[07:17] <LukeNukem> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9748001/prepared-statements-fatal-error-call-to-a-member-function-bind-param-on-a-no
[07:17] <LukeNukem> CAn someone please help me out
[07:18] <scientes> !ot | LukeNukem
[07:18] <cipher__> szal: can i check what spec of opengl my current driver supports?
[07:18] <LukeNukem> ooh
[07:18] <LukeNukem> lol
[07:18] <LukeNukem> sorry
[07:18] <LukeNukem> wrong channel
[07:18] <FloodBot1> LukeNukem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <cipher__> well i suppose that question extends to anyone :P
[07:21] <tanath> frankpad, that's a commercial printer though. what about SOHO printers?
[07:21] <frankpad> what are SOHO printers anyway?
[07:23] <tanath> frankpad, http://www.acronymfinder.com/SOHO.html
[07:23] <tanath> like home printers
[07:24] <szal> tanath: what's the difference between commercial and SOHO printers?
[07:24] <frankpad> You can just say Small Office/Home Office. Thank you
[07:24] <tanath> szal, about 4 feet?
[07:24] <tanath> frankpad, more typing
[07:24] <frankpad> ok
[07:25] <szal> tanath: huh? care to explain?
[07:25] <tanath> and i couldn't recall exactly what it stood for
[07:25] <tanath> szal, the one in the vid is about 4 feet taller than a home printer
[07:25] <user1> HI, i dont know about to work with vi editor, pls let me know how to edit files..
[07:26] <tanath> user1, you might try nano instead
[07:26] <user1> thanks tanath...
[07:26] <szal> tanath: nothing prevents you from buying a HP Color LaserJet 8000 series for home use.. except your budget perhaps :P
[07:26] <tanath> user1, or gedit if you have gui
[07:27] <tanath> szal, what i'm getting at is what about home printers?
[07:27] <szal> tanath: well, what about them?
[07:28] <Guest76003> hi
[07:28] <tanath> szal, did you see the vid or catch any of the conversation? talking about resetting the printer chips so they can be refilled (yay antifeatures)
[07:29] <tanath> szal, vid shows a likely expensive solution that may be good in a commercial setting, but what about home or small business users?
[07:29] <szal> tanath: pretty futile to do so, you're breathing toxic dust if you do.. better have that done by a company that specializes in that, or buy refill cartridges
[07:30] <tanath> szal, what are you talking about? no toxic dust when i refilled mine...
[07:30] <szal> laser printer toner should, quality-wise, be much less of a problem than ink
[07:30] <cipher__> can anyone help direct me to a opengl 4.0 driver?
[07:31] <szal> imho, self-refill is just too much of a hassle
[07:31] <tanath> szal, the point is they're pulling shenanigans to force people to unnecessarily buy replacements when we could refill them ourselves. did you know printer ink is more expensive than oil or human blood?
[07:31] <tanath> szal, that should be user choice though. chip prevents that
[07:31] <frankpad> I agree
[07:32] <tanath> i have a refill kit and a couple printers. can't really use it though due to the damned chips
[07:33] <szal> over here in Germany there are shops that refill your cartridges for you, claiming to have cracked almost all manufacturer locking chips
[07:33] <szal> still a lot cheaper than buying OEM cartridges
[07:34] <tanath> szal, same here, but i'd rather do it free. i just don't know about dealing with the chips... yet
[07:34] <frankpad> Here they sell reset chips... if only I was in the States the shipping would be reasonable http://www.inkowl.com/index.php?p=product&product=2093
[07:34] <szal> tanath: well, you still pay for the ink or toner
[07:34] <tanath> szal, nope. got it free
[07:34] <szal> tanath: then you're just lucky
[07:35] <tanath> szal, true, but it's going to waste because printer companies are asshats
[07:35] <frankpad> $8.95 for those dumb smart chips
[07:36] <frankpad> add $60 to have it shipped to Mexico
[07:36] <frankpad> no way
[07:36] <szal> anyhoo.. for an inkjet printer I'd go for OEM cartridges any day, because the output quality is heaps better.. for a laser printer quality shouldn't be an issue when using non-OEM toner
[07:36] <Guest76003> Please, I question for all helpers: I trying to install ubuntu 11.04 desktop on my computer but gave me the EDD: error 3200 could be of help to solve this problem?
[07:37] <tanath> mine's laser. refill didn't work out. i blame chip
[07:37] <cipher__> I am running ubuntu 11.04, can anyone help me install a opengl 4.0 driver?
[07:38] <tanath> cipher__, ati?
[07:39] <tanath> cipher__, you want the open source or proprietary driver?
[07:39] <amando> Hep wanted on EDD: error 3200, ubuntu 11.04
[07:39] <tanath> and why am i still here after 3am?
[07:40] <cipher__> tanath: proprietary or open, I am agnostic to the potential ethics involved :P. I am on a geforce 525m
[07:40] <tanath> cipher__, try jockey?
[07:40] <cipher__> I have nto
[07:40] <cipher__> not*
[07:41] <cipher__> tanath, jockey?
[07:41] <tanath> /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[07:41] <tanath> cipher__, see if that has a recommendation for you
[07:41] <cipher__> oh, thanks
[07:41] <stefg> Hi, it seems that firefox 11 that came in yesterday via lucid-updates is severely broken on lucid 64. Anyone else can confirm that?
[07:42] <tanath> and good night
[07:42] <cipher__> tanath, the descriptions are pretty vage, just NVIDIA accelerated graphics (current) and (post-release updates)
[07:42] <szal> stefg: define 'broken'
[07:42] <tanath> cipher__, mm. go with recommended or post-release updates
[07:43] <cipher__> tanath: they support gl 4.0+?
[07:43] <stefg> szal: GUI partly not functional, Bokkmark-bar doesn't show anything, Content not displaying properly
[07:43] <tanath> cipher__, not sure. ask around or google. i'm out
[07:43] <cipher__> tanath: i already tried jocky btw ;P
[07:43]  * szal uses neither Lucid nor Firefox
[07:44] <szal> stefg: you might wanna try a fresh new profile to see whether something in your profile is possibly b0rked
[07:46] <stefg> szal: already did that. I renamed ~/.mozilla to check wether there's just a broken add-on... no dice. I downgraded back to 9.0.1, and everthing is fine. Just wanted some confirmation that firefox 11 is indeed broken, and that it is not a problem exclusive to me
[07:47] <ovechkin_> what/where are the best resources for installing on a new macbook pro?
[07:48] <ovechkin_> hoping to find a list of what is and is not compatible/functioning
[07:48] <CFHowlett> ovechkin_   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[07:49] <ovechkin_> thanks
[07:50] <chalcedony> has anyone got experience or where can i ask about Adobe Reader 9 on Ubuntu? it's showng an error, saying the .pdf is damaged
[07:50] <amando> am using Ubuntu server 11.10, to implement VOD over IMS, where can get the best information to guide me.
[07:51] <CFHowlett> chalcedony   try to view with evince
[07:51] <chalcedony> CFHowlett, still seems broken now
[07:51] <CFHowlett> chalcedony   ef evince and adobe both say it's broken ... it probably is.
[07:52] <stefg> chalcedony: First step would be to double check that with evince (the native pdf viewer).
[07:52] <frankpad> I wish there was some instructions like these http://ur1.ca/8pn1v for my printer model in order to reset the cartridge chip
[07:53] <stefg> chalcedony: might it be a specially crafted PDF to attack windows versions of the adobe reader?
[07:53] <amando> is there any experience ubuntu user on line?
[07:53] <CFHowlett> amando   probably :)
[07:55] <stefg> !firefox
[07:55] <amando> CFHowlett- i would like to have a website that could guide me implement Video on demand  over IMS
[07:56] <CFHowlett> amando   sorry, out of my area of expertise.  might want to look in the forums as well
[07:56] <Belial`> stefg, what's the problem with ff?
[07:57] <amando> CFHowlett :ok, thank you
[07:57] <Belial`> for some reason my scroll is jacked. can't go back far enough.
[07:57] <chalcedony> stefg, thank you for the idea, my husband says not. i don't know what he's doing, yet
[07:58] <hiexpo> Belial`, edit your prefs so unlimited scroll back
[07:58] <stefg> amando: That is not so much a question of the underlying operating system, but of a server application. I'd look at the wowza streaming server
[07:59] <Belial`> hiexpo, i have it set already. it's a problem with znc. i reconnected and the buffer wasn't saved. it works for several weeks, sometimes just days...
[07:59] <Belial`> either way, it randomly stops working
[07:59] <Belial`> and i don't get back logs.
[07:59] <Belial`> i usually have to redo it from the web settings.
[07:59] <stefg> Belial`:  see above. Firefox 11 has a non functional gui, doesnt show my iGoogle page properly, has no search engines.... it's just utterly broken
[08:00] <hiexpo> you use a cleaner like bleechbit
[08:00] <Belial`> stefg, i can't see above...that's why i asked you what the problem was...and then mentioned why i couldn't scroll back.
 for some reason my scroll is jacked. can't go back far enough.
[08:01] <stefg> Belial`: : GUI partly not functional, bookmark-bar doesn't show anything, content not displaying properly
[08:01]  * stefg thinks that tehre's a problem with xul-runner
[08:01] <worm> Who can help me about this: aptitude said more than 700 packages were broken and apt-get install -f said nothing.
[08:02] <stefg> C'mon guys! nobody running firefox 11? just a simple "works for me" or "got the same problem"?
[08:02] <Belial`> stefg, don't use it, but i just enabled it to check. the bookmarks bar is working fine here. i'm facing the same issues basically with unity that you are with firefox.
[08:02] <Belial`> most everyone i talked to doesn't have the graphical glitches i do with unity.
[08:03] <Belial`> even ones with the same graphics.
[08:03] <worm> It is a disaster for me to solve this depend problem. Aptitude told me to remove 700 or more packages.
[08:03] <Belial`> actually, my bad. i didn't realize i'm in #ubuntu. i'm using 12.04. strictly a #ubuntu+1 issue.
[08:04] <Belial`> stefg, i blame most of firefox's problems on their flawed rapid release model.
[08:04] <Belial`> it works fine for some, but terrible for others. and it's a nightmare with some popular addons.
[08:06] <chalcedony> stefg, i think he's wondering where Adobe Reader 9 is supposed to be? it's currently in /usr/bin/apt/Adobe9
[08:08] <stefg> chalcedony: that sounds quite strange. should either be in /opt or in /usr/local/bin . But these "partner" packages might have silly ideas on where to put stuff
[08:09] <stefg> chalcedony: a "sudo updatedb" followed by "locate adobe" should give you an idea
[08:10] <Belial`> is anyone using a core i3 mobile cpu?
[08:10] <ikonia> Belial`: just ask your question
[08:11] <chalcedony> stefg, thanks!
[08:12] <Belial`> ikonia, not always that simple.
[08:12] <ikonia> Belial`: ok, then we can't help you
[08:12] <Belial`> harsh. also seemed like a pretyped comment.
[08:12] <ikonia> it's not harsh
[08:12] <hiexpo> hola ikonia and again thanks
[08:12] <Belial`> i'll ignore it though
[08:12] <ikonia> if you want help, you have to give info
[08:13] <ikonia> does it matter if anyones using an i3 mobile cpu - no, does it matter that someone knows how to help you, yes, so ask the question/issue you want to resolve
[08:13] <Belial`> ikonia, i think you're too caught up in policing than you are helping. i've seen you come across too aggressive several times.
[08:13] <Belial`> but it's all good.
[08:14] <ikonia> Belial`: I'm not policing anything, I'm asking you to give information so you can be HELPED
[08:14] <stefg> !ask | Belial`
[08:14] <Edisto> hmmm... I can't seem to run my php file in eclipse. It says file doesn't exist and it seems to be using the directory of var/www but I'm guessing it doesn't have permission to write there. But whenever I open eclipse with sudo it says no editor descriptor for php...
[08:15] <The_BROS> Not so long ago thunderbird-bin loads prosessor sometimes. How can I fix it?
[08:15] <Edisto> is there a way to save a file to a locked directory without having to open a file using sudo?
[08:15] <Belial`> ikonia, sorry, bud. i understand.
[08:15] <ikonia> Edisto: eclipse is normally used for java, never seen it used for php
[08:15] <Edisto> yeah I was downloading an extension
[08:16] <stefg> Edisto: that would very much undermine the idea of write permissions, huh?
[08:16] <ikonia> Edisto: change the permissions on the directory so they are more open, put your user in the group etc
[08:17] <Edisto> yeah didn't think of that lol thanks guys
[08:20] <Belial`> the core i3 seems to use the i915 module. i have an optimus laptop which i know isn't "officially" supported. i blacklisted the nouveau driver, which was also throwing an error at boot time. that fixed one problem. however, the intel gpu is what is used by default. and actually, it's the only thing that can be used officially without intervention from 3rd party projects such as "bumblebee" (which makes use of my nvidia 420m.) i was just wondering what i n
[08:20] <Belial`> eed to do to get rid of my "kernel: intel ips [...]: failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled" boot time message. on arch it was a bit different.
[08:21] <ikonia> Belial`: is it just the boot message you want to get rid of, or is something actually failing at boot time that you are not happy about ?
[08:21] <adriano> cctt
[08:22] <Belial`> ultimately i'd like to just not have the message. everything seems to work fine. but it's affecting boot time. and it seems like it's an actual error.
[08:22] <ikonia> how is it effecting boot time
[08:23] <Belial`> although, to be honest, i have no clue what it's doing to impact me in a negative way aside from boot time.
[08:23] <Belial`> it's hanging for a few seconds.
[08:23] <Belial`> and then displaying it
[08:23] <Belial`> i'm just being picky about not wanting errors showing up on boot.
[08:24] <Belial`> and it's not ubuntu's fault. it's pretty much every distribution i've used.
[08:24] <ikonia> the error suggests, there is 915 module functionality that is not supported with your card
[08:24] <ikonia> so I'd guess depending on what the module that's failing is and what it does disabling that module would be the short and simple answer
[08:24] <ikonia> but I doubt that will be an option as it's probably something that's critical to your functionality
[08:25] <Belial`> well for instance, when i had the message on arch, i went to /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and added it to the modules line
[08:25] <Belial`> then ran mkinitcpio -p linux
[08:25] <Belial`> which fixed the problem. i guess i'm just looking the ubuntu way.
[08:26] <stefg> ikonia, Belial` : That probably has something to do with the "intel HD graphics" embedded graphics engine on the i3. that is not properly supported yet i guess
[08:26] <Belial`> ah
[08:26] <Belial`> so it's basically just putting a band aid on it?
[08:26] <ikonia> yeah, there is information on a later kernel having an update but it's still not properly supported
[08:27] <Belial`> ok
[08:27] <Belial`> either way, everything *seems* to be working fine.
[08:27] <Belial`> so i guess that's all that matters.
[08:28] <stefg> Belial`: your machine has the intel graphics embedded on the cpu. that is used for low power. If it comes to graphics intensive applications the machine is supposed to switch to the more powerful, but more power hungry nvidia chip. I don't think, X supports that at the moment
[08:28] <Belial`> it doesn't
[08:28] <Belial`> that's why i use bumblebee
[08:28] <ikonia> Belial`: there is an interessting suggestion on the arch wiki about using the boot option i915.modeset=1
[08:28] <Belial`> i saw that
[08:28] <Belial`> i might give that a try
[08:29] <ikonia> looking at the docs that can disable some of the more advanced features, possibly some that are being requested when your system boots
[08:29] <frankpad> How can I reset the CE285A (85A) cartridge chip (or set Ubuntu to bypass it) so I can print?
[08:29] <auronandace> frankpad: check your printer manual
[08:30] <Belial`> i'll give it a shot. i know it's just me ocd'ing out on it. because i know i never noticed a difference other than shaving maybe 2 seconds of boot time on arch when i fixed it.
[08:30] <frankpad> I don't think HP wants me to bypass the chip... but I will check it anyway
[08:32] <Belial`> sorry for the rocky start, ikonia
[08:32] <Belial`> i'm just a bit edgy right now i guess.
[08:32] <Belial`> appreciate the help.
[08:32] <Edisto> i did a chmod ugo+w to /var/www and I still can't save a file to that directory... what am i missing?
[08:33] <ikonia> Edisto: who is the group owner
[08:33] <Edisto> root i'm guessing, but then again i'm somewhat new to ubuntu
[08:34] <ikonia> Edisto: ok, then you are not in the group "root" so you've not changed the permissions
[08:34] <stefg> Edisto: world-writable /var/www doesn't sound like a good idea....  BTW have you fsck'd your filesystem recently?
[08:35] <Edisto> what is fsck'd? i did a sudo ugo+w so I can see the change... or where would I have to go to add myself to that group
[08:35] <stefg> !fsck
[08:36] <stefg> good bot!
[08:36] <Edisto> yeah I didn't shut down properly one of these times so I ran it today
[08:36] <stefg> !yum
[08:36] <Belial`> stefg, ikonia, just found a link to a possible fix from the ubuntu forums. google had me drop back several more pages than usual. sudo echo "softdep intel_ips pre: i915" > /etc/modprobe.d/intel-ips-dep-i915.conf
[08:39] <Jordan_U> Belial`: The fact that whoever wrote that command doesn't understand how the shell works enough to understand it won't work, *and* the fact that they must not have tested their instructions, does not bode well for the value of the rest of their advice.
[08:40] <Belial`> Jordan_U, i hear you. seems to be hit or miss judging from replies.
[08:42] <Belial`> Jordan_U, i take it your suggestion is to avoid that "fix"?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Belial`: Unless you can get a confirmation from a more reliable source, yes.
[08:43] <Belial`> Jordan_U, the good thing is, this is just a test machine
[08:44] <Belial`> i don't mind breaking things, basically.
[08:45] <Edisto> so to add myself to root group I do a sudo usermod -a -G root myname?
[08:45] <Edisto> just to make sure I dont mess shit up
[08:54] <Edisto> for 1,420 people sure did get quiet
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> everyone is happy and have no problems
[08:56] <Edisto> well let me repeat mine so I dont mess up where I can't log back in... in order to add my acct to root is it sudo usermod -a -G root myacct
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> not sure mate
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> !info myacct
[08:57] <Edisto> myacct = to login name or account name
[08:58] <Edisto> I guess i will just chance... I am using wubi anyway
[08:58] <Edisto> hmmm.. that is a interesting error cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[08:58] <ikonia> Edisto: why are you adding your user to the root group
[08:59] <Belial`> Edisto, why not just "sudo su" if you want root?
[08:59] <ikonia> Edisto: Belial` because that is not a recommended method and shouldn't be suggested
[08:59] <Belial`> "sudo su -" actually
[08:59] <auronandace> Belial`: i hope you mean sudo -i
[08:59] <ikonia> sudo -i will give you a root shell
[08:59] <Belial`> ikonia, su - is no good now?
[08:59] <ikonia> but there should be no need for that at this stage
[08:59] <Edisto> well when i login to root with eclipse I can't save to /var/www
[09:00] <Edisto> its owner and group is root...
[09:00] <ikonia> Belial`: su - is great if you have a root password, sudo su - is not
[09:00] <ikonia> Edisto: ok, so change the group
[09:00] <Edisto> chown right?
[09:00] <auronandace> Edisto: why are you logging in a root to use eclipse?
[09:00] <ikonia> Edisto: correct
[09:01] <Edisto> to save to /var/www directory... but it for some reason bugs when i login as root
[09:01] <ikonia> Edisto: you can't login as root - the root account is disabled
[09:01] <Edisto> sorry open it as root
[09:01] <Belial`> ikonia, excuse my ignorance, but what changes by using sudo to su -?
[09:01] <auronandace> !noroot | Edisto
[09:02] <ikonia> Belial`: it messes up things such as the users base home directory, so can write files (especially when using X11 applications) to the wrong place
[09:04] <Belial`> ikonia, like saving configs to the actual root user dir instead of the user requesting root access?
[09:04] <ikonia> Belial`: not quite, but you've got the right idea
[09:05] <Edisto> hmmm... so I go into the directory and type chgrp myacct root and it changes the current directory only right?
[09:05] <Edisto> cuz I don't see a directory parameter on this page
[09:05] <auronandace> !permissions | Edisto
[09:05] <ikonia> Edisto: look, just do "sudo chown username:group /var/www
[09:05] <ikonia> Edisto: replace username:group with the username/group you want to own the directory
[09:06] <Edisto> thanks man
[09:06] <Edisto> lol as you can see I treat ubuntu delicate as a flower... i've had a few mishaps
[09:07] <ikonia> Edisto: as a developer you need to get a better grasp of the OS, if you are struggling with things such as basic permisisons, your development life will get harder
[09:07] <ikonia> Edisto: https://help.ubuntu.com have a read through some of the basic operations information
[09:09] <cipher__> Are there any opengl 4.0 drivers available easily?
[09:11] <cipher__> opengl 4.0 drivers :'(
[09:12] <diverdude> how can i check if my CPU is 32 or 64 bit?
[09:12] <Belial`> cipher__, for which manufacturer?
[09:12] <soreau> diverdude: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:12] <cipher__> yay. geforce 525m
[09:12] <roxie_nai> Hey any one help me out here
[09:12] <diverdude> soreau: yes, and look for what there? There are lots of info
[09:12] <cipher__> Belial`,
[09:13] <roxie_nai> Is there is any pen tester here
[09:13] <Belial`> cipher__, you have the proprietary drivers installed?
[09:13] <cipher__> Belial`, yes.
[09:13] <cipher__> well one of the two
[09:14] <Belial`> i'm pretty sure opengl 4 was added some time ago for nvidia.
[09:14] <cipher__> oh :O
[09:15] <cipher__> Belial`, is there any way I can check the spec of opengl?
[09:16] <Belial`> cipher__, nvidia-settings should give you all the info you're looking for.
[09:17] <cipher__> Belial`, I am running bumblebee, (allows me to run multiple gpu's concurrently), and i cannot consequently use that tool. It alleges I have no nvidia drivers when it's obviously installed and working :(
[09:18] <Belial`> you can, i forgot what the command was though.
[09:19] <Belial`> there's more to it for bumblebee
[09:19] <cipher__> Belial`, optirun?
[09:19] <Belial`> cipher__, ptirun nvidia-settings -c :8
[09:19] <Belial`> optirun*
[09:19] <cipher__> I did try :P
[09:20] <Belial`> you tried with -c :8 on the end?
[09:20] <cipher__> no
[09:20] <cipher__> what does the -c flag do?
[09:21] <cipher__> it worked
[09:21] <cipher__> Belial`, what mysticism is this?
[09:23] <Belial`> cipher__, #bumblebee for whatever questions you have
[09:23] <Belial`> i'm just following their docs
[09:24] <cipher__> thanks
[09:24] <Belial`> np
[09:27] <yongyao> my phone is in a stiuation of hard brick
[09:27] <yongyao> help me
[09:27] <lapion> hello, upgrades, either from commandline or the update-manager, with a btrfs root  do not work.
[09:28] <yongyao> will it work with odine?
[09:28] <lapion> a regular upgrade doesn't work, and a sandbox upgrade doesn't start up.
[09:29] <yongyao> is there any way to help recover the phone?
[09:30] <romario333> Hi, does anybody know how the panel in the left edge of the screen is called in unity? Is it Dash?
[09:30] <Burnmoh> hi
[09:31] <Burnmoh> hmm
[09:31] <romario333> ok, I should probably ask rather at #ubuntu-unity :-)
[09:31] <hydrox24_> romario333: it's the unity bar, I think the dash is what you get when you click the top option/hit the windows key.
[09:32] <GTRam> hi
[09:32] <ePax> My nautilus uses 100% of CPU when i open my folders. Is there any solutions to that?
[09:32] <Burnmoh> how to hide the IP ?
[09:32] <iceroot> !tor | Burnmoh
[09:33] <Rurd2di> use the Anon ubuntu  Burnmoh, probaly has IP hiding shot on it
[09:33] <Rurd2di> *shit
[09:33] <Rurd2di> lol
[09:33] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <Burnmoh> iceroot ,ubottu and rurd2di thx :)
[09:35] <ikonia> Rurd2di: no need for bad language please.
[09:35] <hydrox24_> ePax: make sure all updates are installed, otherwise search for the bug report in launchpad (website) and if there isn't one, submit one.
[09:36] <hydrox24_> Burnmoh: also look at anonymizing VPN services.
[09:36] <Burnmoh> hydrox ok
[09:38] <frankpad> How can I reset the CE285A (85A) cartridge chip (or set Ubuntu to bypass it) so I can print? The manual states: "When a print cartridge reaches the end of its estimated useful life, the product turns on the toner
[09:38] <frankpad> light on the control panel. You do not need to replace the supply at this time unless print quality is no longer acceptable. When the supply has reached this condition, the HP Premium Protection warranty for that supply has ended.
[09:40] <Hoxolotl> good morning
[09:41]  * Hoxolotl wonders if running a persistent ubuntu from one USB stick on many different hardware configurations is feasable or wether heĺl blow up a computer along the way somewhere.
[09:42] <Hoxolotl> 1 usb stick, many hardware configurations.
[09:42] <ikonia> Hoxolotl: depends on the other hardware
[09:42] <hiexpo> exactly
[09:43] <iceroot> Hoxolotl: it will not blow up something, normally it is working out of the box
[09:43] <Hoxolotl> well, itś a mix of AMD/intel processors and Nvidia cards (maybe occasionally an intel HD3000, but thatś it) , of course Iĺl do a 32 bit install as some older configs won work otherwise
[09:44] <iceroot> Hoxolotl: GNU/Linux is not storing any hardware-configs, everything is read at start up (only some vga drivers which takes place in /etc/X11/xorg.conf may a problem)
[09:44] <Hoxolotl> no atoms/risc processors (so far)
[09:44] <selite> How do I find the external IP address of my router?
[09:44] <Hoxolotl> iceroot, exactly what I wanted to know :D
[09:44] <Hoxolotl> thanks
[09:44] <selite> Anyone?
[09:45] <iceroot> selite: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[09:45] <Burnmoh> selite use google "ip locate"
[09:45] <elsuco> selite: http://checkip.org/
[09:46] <selite> Burnmoh: , elsuco : It's not that. I don't get the web page for my router when I type it in the browser.
[09:47] <iceroot> selite: you want your WAN IP or you want the LAN ip of your router?
[09:47] <selite> Burnmoh: When I run Angry Scanner I get IP addresses of some routers from my ISP but I don't get mine, so I am curious to get mine.
[09:47] <sacarlson> selite: maybe try sudo route; the default gateway address will probly be you router ip
[09:48] <selite> sacarlson: Yeah, I tried it. But that way I can only access it from my computer. In other words that way it can be accessed only from machines connected to that router.
[09:48] <selite> iceroot: WAN IP.
[09:48] <Burnmoh> selite most ISP's provide dynamic ip , wht u gonna do with that ?
[09:49] <iceroot> selite: and you are at the moment in the lan connected to your router?
[09:49] <Bora> hello everyone
[09:49] <selite> iceroot: Yeah. I have few addresses and I can get people's routers from my browser, but I don't know the IP address of mine lol.
[09:49] <selite> :(
[09:49] <sacarlson> selite: well my router I have access to that section disabled from the wan side as might be by default for security,  it might be able to be set active as an option
[09:50] <iceroot> selite: and why is www.whatismyip.com not what you want?
[09:50] <iceroot> selite: that will show your WAN-IP
[09:50] <Bora> I would like to ask some question something about vmware v sphere and vmware workstation
[09:50] <selite> iceroot: Because I don't get the router page from that address.
[09:50] <iceroot> selite: why you need the router page?
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: that site shows your WAN IP
[09:51] <llutz> selite: you don't want the router config-page being accessible from WAN
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: use that ip to connect to your router
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: also read the manual of your router how to enable the router to be reachable from the wan
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: its disabled by default for a good reason
[09:51] <selite> iceroot: Hmm. Meaning if it is reachable from WAN then I'd get the router config - page?
[09:52] <iceroot> selite: from the wan, yes
[09:52] <iceroot> selite: from the lan you will always get it
[09:52] <selite> iceroot: Thank you.
[09:52] <sacarlson> selite: other option is you can forward ssh trafic to your ubuntu server inside your home net,  login to that and then ssh remote from that into your router
[09:52] <Burnmoh> i disabled my router remote connection cuz my IS provider always changes my router pass lol
[09:52] <Bora> first of all I installed vmware workstation but I can not  configure anyone can help me for about that
[09:53] <iceroot> Bora: time to change the provider
[09:53] <iceroot> Bora: wrong nick
[09:53] <iceroot> i really hate this tab-completion
[09:53] <Burnmoh> iceroot lol
[09:53] <frankpad>  How can I reset the CE285A (85A) cartridge chip (or set Ubuntu to bypass it) so I can print?
[09:54] <iceroot> frankpad: not possible from the OS, you have to do a hardware-hack for that and reset the chips directly
[09:54] <frankpad> Can you give me more info on how to achieve that hardware hack?
[09:54] <iceroot> frankpad: maybe with a driver hack it is possible but i dont think something like that is controlled by the driver
[09:55] <Burnmoh> wht u cant config bora ?
[09:55] <cipher__> is there anyway I can get the opengl 4.1 header files?
[09:56] <Burnmoh> wow ppl using IPv6 lol
[09:56] <Burnmoh> is it safe hehe !
[09:57] <Bora> after I install vmware workstation any needs of configration for tuhe using vmware
[09:57] <malegebi_> 请问以下大家知道编译usb-storage.ko 需要什么文件？
[09:57] <LjL> !cn | malegebi_
[09:58] <malegebi_> thanks
[09:58] <Burnmoh> guys windows or linux or unix serverwhich is best for choosing career :(
[09:58] <Burnmoh> im stuck :(
[09:58] <frankpad> iceroot, can you give me more info on how to hardware hack the cartridge chip?
[09:58] <LjL> Burnmoh: a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic methinks
[09:58] <Burnmoh> oh ! kk
[09:59] <Bora> I think unix
[09:59] <iceroot> frankpad: there are devices out there to reset the chips
[09:59] <iceroot> frankpad: have a look at ebay or google
[09:59] <frankpad> which keywords should I use
[09:59] <frankpad> chip resetter?
[09:59] <Bora> but I am working on DataCenter our platforms Winodws and some times Linux
[10:00] <Burnmoh> bora cool , me Enterprise network security student lol
[10:00] <iceroot> frankpad: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=printer+reset+chips&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[10:00] <Bora> good good Burmoh
[10:00] <Burnmoh> 1st year :P
[10:01] <frankpad> Thanks, iceroot
[10:01] <iceroot> frankpad: you are welcome
[10:01] <Bora> I am MSCE
[10:01] <malegebi_> hello all, I want to compile usb-storage.ko ,but I dont't know which files are needed ,and how to write Makefile?
[10:01] <Burnmoh> bora cool
[10:02] <spav_> s
[10:02] <Bora> :D
[10:02] <Bora> Buenmoh can you  install and maiintance of Vmware Workstation on Ubuntu
[10:03] <DonD> is there a command that let me load å webpage every second ?
[10:03] <Burnmoh> MSCE is toughest xam
[10:03] <Burnmoh> bora me new to linux world :(
[10:03] <llutz> !ot | Burnmoh
[10:04] <Burnmoh> is there any xam for ubuntu ?
[10:04] <sacarlson> malegebi: sudo apt-get install  build-essential ;  to start  then the headers of the kernel you want to build it on
[10:04] <iceroot> Burnmoh: LPI
[10:04] <Burnmoh> certification
[10:04] <Burnmoh> LPI ?
[10:05] <iceroot> Burnmoh: LPI but its for Linux not for ubuntu
[10:05] <Burnmoh> oh k
[10:06] <frfx_crsh> someone is here?
[10:06] <Burnmoh> can we run ubuntu servers in enterprises , does we need to pay any bucks ?
[10:07] <Burnmoh> i heard its free , but im confused :(
[10:07] <vlt> Burnmoh: No.
[10:07] <iceroot> Burnmoh: ubuntu is free (as in free beer and free speach)
[10:07] <vlt> Burnmoh: But you can buy professional support from Canonical. Inc.
[10:07] <frfx_crsh> someone want to help me?
[10:07] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can get official support from canocial which costs but the software itself is always free
[10:07] <vlt> !ask | frfx_crsh
[10:08] <Burnmoh> hmm
[10:08] <Burnmoh> bit confusing
[10:08] <iceroot> Burnmoh: why?
[10:09] <Burnmoh> if i use ubuntu server edition in enterprise , does ubuntu courts me ! lol
[10:09] <benpicco> Do I manually have to issue the TRIM command when using a SSD or does Ubuntu take care of everything automatically?
[10:09] <vlt> Burnmoh: Welcome to FOSS!
[10:09] <iceroot> what is ubuntu server enterprise?
[10:09] <frfx_crsh> i have problems with firefox on ubuntu 10.04 i have never-ever had problem with crashing.
[10:10] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can always use any version of ubuntu (server, desktop) and you will never have to pay money
[10:10] <iceroot> Burnmoh: but more important then the costs is the freedom
[10:10] <iceroot> !free | Burnmoh
[10:11] <Burnmoh> got it !
[10:11] <iceroot> Burnmoh: the gnu.org link is very good
[10:11] <rumpe1> benpicco, http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[10:12] <Burnmoh> once u hit commercial u need to pay some bucks right
[10:12] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: No.
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: no
[10:12] <Burnmoh> lol
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can do with ubuntu what you want
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can even sell it for money to othes
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: and even then you dont have to pay anything
[10:13] <vlt> Burnmoh: Why LOL? You can even sell it. (If you stick to the GPL rules.)
[10:13] <Splooshie123> Burnmoh: actually you can only charge for the physical act of transferring a copy. not for the program itself
[10:14] <Burnmoh> oh kk
[10:14] <Splooshie123> like charging for the cd and postage
[10:14] <vlt> Burnmoh: Yes, Splooshie123 is right.
[10:14] <Burnmoh> wht is GPL rules ?
[10:14] <Splooshie123> GNU General Public License
[10:14] <iceroot> Burnmoh: read the gnu.org link
[10:14] <Burnmoh> iceroot ok
[10:15] <Splooshie123> Anyone here know how to get pulseaudio to work through jack?
[10:16] <Burnmoh> i surfed the ubuntu site , there is some special advanced server and desktop edition but they asking to pay for it :(
[10:16] <Splooshie123> Burnmoh: what page did you go to?
[10:16] <Burnmoh> splooshie one min
[10:17] <smswt> admin
[10:17] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: The only thing which Canonical charges for which is software is Landscape. Landscape is a piece of software, not a version of Ubuntu.
[10:20] <benpicco> rumpe1: is automatic TRIM reccomended?
[10:20] <Burnmoh> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=667
[10:21] <Burnmoh> visit the above link
[10:21] <llutz> benpicco: just be warned: if you use "discard" option and you delete files, there is no way to get them back (except from backups)
[10:21] <Burnmoh> *vist
[10:23] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: That's a support contract and licence for landscape. It's not a different version of Ubuntu.
[10:23] <Burnmoh> jordan oh
[10:24] <Onkeltem> hi all. My Ubuntu doesn't load anymore, even in recovery mode - display just turns off!
[10:24] <Onkeltem> Dual booted win xp loads fine
[10:24] <benpicco> Onkeltem: can you select an older kernel in Grub?
[10:24] <Burnmoh> jordan so they give online support for those edition
[10:24] <Burnmoh> in free edition its not possible ?
[10:24] <Onkeltem> benpicco: yes, I tried one, but not in recovery mode. Same behaviour
[10:25] <Onkeltem> benpicco: gonna try old recovery now
[10:25] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: Phone and paid online support, yes. That online support is not here (or #ubuntu-server). We are all volunteers and you can get support here for free even if you're making a profit.
[10:26] <Burnmoh> ok
[10:26] <Onkeltem> benpicco: doesn't work - display continue to turn off - 've just tried -22 kernel in recovery
[10:27] <Burnmoh> ok friends see u later :)
[10:27] <Burnmoh> bye :D
[10:31] <neo__> Hello
[10:31] <neo__> IS this thig on???
[10:35] <vlt> Hello. Each time I log in (11.10) my audio volume is set to 100% which is, well, LOUD. How can I avoid this?
[10:36] <benpicco> Onkeltem: what was the last time it used to work?
[10:39] <power_user> hello
[10:40] <kalimojo> hello power_user
[10:42] <Onkeltem> benpicco: yesterday it worked. And I've just managed to get into recovery menu on one of the previous kernels. I ran dpkg, it finished istall something, then I selected "resume", and dropped into tty1 login
[10:42] <Onkeltem> benpicco: now I restarted again - and having black screen again. Also, I wanted to run fsck, but for some odd reason there is no such an item in recovery menu
[10:43] <kalimojo> power_user where you from ?
[10:43] <benpicco> Onkeltem: so there is a kernel with wich is works?
[10:44] <vlt> !ot | kalimojo
[10:44] <kalimojo> im from uk
[10:44] <Onkeltem> benpicco: yes and no. It is not 100% reproducable. I tried same kernel 5 times, but it worked (recovery menu loaded) 2 times
[10:45] <diverdude> how can i see if there is a PPA available? For example, is this a PPA ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2
[10:45] <benpicco> Onkeltem: that is very strange - and it used to work without problems before?
[10:45] <Rounin> Hello again! I have a package which thinks it's missing a dependency, but isn't... How do I get dpkg --ignore-depends to actually work?
[10:45] <benpicco> diverdude: "Other versions of 'libgphoto2' in untrusted archives."
[10:46] <Rounin> I've tried using both the package name and the dependency as parameters, but it still fails complaining of a missing dependency
[10:46] <Onkeltem> benpicco: yes
[10:46] <benpicco> Onkeltem: are you sure you always select the same kernel?
[10:46] <Rounin> Ah never mind; now I found --force-depends
[10:47] <Onkeltem> benpicco: let me check it again (and again)
[10:47] <diverdude> What is the difference between: libusb-1.0-0 and libusb-1.0-0-dev? The version number? or is it that libusb-1.0-0-dev has header files i need if i need to compile a program using libub or what?
[10:48] <benpicco> diverdude: -dev are the header files
[10:48] <AceKing> Does anyone know if Startech PCI soundcards are linux friendly? The built in sound on my MB stopped working and I want to get a cheap PCI card to replace it.
[10:48] <diverdude> benpicco: ok, so same program version?'
[10:48] <benpicco> yes
[10:48] <diverdude> benpicco: and how can i see what version?
[10:49] <vlt> Hello. When running alsamixer I can’t find the volume slider for the current audio heard, I can only adjust it with the gnome-panel audio slider. Any idea? (Each time I log in (11.10) my audio volume is set to 100% which is, well, LOUD. How can I avoid this?)
[10:49] <kalimojo> hi
[10:50] <benpicco> diverdude:  apt-cache show libusb-1.0-0 | grep Version
[10:50] <soreau> vlt: try F6 in alsamixer
[10:50] <benpicco> vlt: try alsamixer -c0
[10:51] <diverdude> benpicco: heh...that prints Version: 2:1.0.8-2 a bit confusing..whats the 2 there?
[10:52] <vlt> benpicco: No difference.
[10:52] <Onkeltem> How to change language used when booting - need English, since Russian shows white squares
[10:52] <benpicco> diverdude: um, I don't know
[10:52] <vlt> soreau: I can choose another hardware there (sound chip = 0, usb webcam mic in = 1)
[10:54] <vlt> Any idea how to set the audio volume to the level when logging off (or at least to a fixed one)?
[10:54] <pc> l0l
[10:54] <Gunni> i'm having an issue with a headless ubuntu server, now for the last 3 hours it has frozen completely and was completely unresponsive over network, connecting a keyboard to it and doing a ctrl+alt+del did restart it
[10:54] <vlt> A fixed one that is NOT 100% ;-)
[10:54] <Gunni> any idea what could cause my issue
[10:54] <llutz> vlt: sudo alsactl store
[10:55]  * vlt tries that
[10:55] <kalimojo> im dying of cqncer
[10:58] <Gunni> i should have mentioned, it's done this three times now, and i've been monitoring the server and i see no weird activity except the lockup
[11:00] <vlt> llutz: I did `sudo alsactl store` logged off an in again and the audio level was the same. BUT then I rebooted and now it’s back to 100%.
[11:01] <vlt> llutz: I noticed that the level shown in lightdm was the one I stored.
[11:02] <vlt> But adjusting this hadn’t helped before either. I always get the Ubuntu login jungle at -0dB!
[11:02] <Onkeltem> benpicco: I was wrong, or at least I can't reproduce non-reproduceness of what I was talking about :) I successfuly booted -28 kernel with X. Everything goes fine. But 31 and 32 kernels are failing to load.
[11:03] <benpicco> Onkeltem: that sounds like a bug
[11:03] <benpicco> which gpu and driver are you using?
[11:03] <Onkeltem> benpicco: this is strange sine the computer was working with both 31 and 32 before.
[11:03] <benpicco> was it?
[11:04] <Onkeltem> benpicco: 100% sure. I myself was working at the computer yesterday and before.
[11:04] <ahhughes> hey just installing now... got a i7, 6GB, 750GB. Need some help with filesystem partitions... what size swap should I allocated, and do I need to give it a mount point, if so what's the normal mount?
[11:05] <Justasic> I get the error "reading files list for package 'lib32gomp1': Input/output error" when I try to run apt-get upgrade
[11:05] <iceroot> ahhughes: why not use the defaults ubuntu is suggesting?
[11:05] <ahhughes> iceroot, its not suggesting anything
[11:05] <gharper> Hello! I have just built a PC with an Intel DH67CL Motherboard and a WD Caviar 1TB HD. I am getting the error when I boot
[11:05] <dr_willis> swap dosent have a mountpoint
[11:05] <gharper> "A Bootable device has not been found"
[11:05] <kalimojo> i love ubuntu
[11:05] <gharper> Yet, I can select this drive in BIOS and boot fine
[11:05] <iceroot> ahhughes: the normal ubuntu cd? there you can say install to hdd, thats all
[11:05] <iceroot> ahhughes: ubuntu will do the rest
[11:06] <benpicco> Onkeltem: what did you change then?
[11:06] <ahhughes> ok, but I do want x2 partitions, one 200GB and the other what ever is left.
[11:06] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  if useing hubernate use swap=ram
[11:06] <iceroot> ahhughes: for what 200GB?
[11:06] <iceroot> ahhughes: /home?
[11:06] <ahhughes> 200GB for ubuntu, the rest for data/backups
[11:07] <kalimojo> you are all nuts
[11:07] <dr_willis> ahhughes: partition how you want. i do swap. home and riot /
[11:07] <ahhughes> kalimojo, yes.... why did it take you so long to work it out.
[11:07] <dr_willis> root /
[11:07] <iceroot> ahhughes: you need / /home and swap, use 15gb for /, 2 GB for swap and rest for /home
[11:08] <Onkeltem> benpicco: nothing! It is my mother's computer. She called me an hour ago claiming computer doesn't load. Before that I heard noize of falling keyboard ;:)
[11:08] <dr_willis> 2gb wont allow hibernation
[11:08] <Justasic> can someone at least acknowledge my error instead of ignoring me please -.-
[11:08] <iceroot> dr_willis: double ram size or what was the rule?
[11:08] <Onkeltem> benpicco: ati driver, X1950 card
[11:09] <dr_willis>  iceroot hibernate equals ram. but i never use hibernate
[11:09] <ahhughes> iceroot, to be honest I want to be able to backup the entire OS partition. So don't I want /home under / ?
[11:09] <iceroot> dr_willis: i am never using it too (because its never working)
[11:09] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  uts eadier to keep a seperate home
[11:09] <iceroot> ahhughes: i would suggest to use an extra /home
[11:09] <ahhughes> argh :'(
[11:09] <dr_willis> then you bacjup home as needed
[11:10] <benpicco> Onkeltem: so it's a desktop computer
[11:10] <ahhughes> dr_willis, I Want to backup entire boot+home all in one go.
[11:10] <benpicco> I thought it was some backlight issue
[11:10] <dr_willis> i do 20 gb for / rest home
[11:11] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  sort of a pointless requirement
[11:11] <dr_willis> ahhughes: how are you backing up
[11:11] <bouzbou> is there a path on ubuntu (like windows) ? When I install a package (git for example), I can then directly run 'git' from the command line, where is it defined?
[11:11] <iceroot> bouzbou: $PATH
[11:12] <Onkeltem> benpicco: yes, desktop.
[11:12] <dr_willis> bouzbou:  echo $PATH
[11:12] <ahhughes> dr_willis, clonezilla
[11:12] <iceroot> bouzbou: and when you install git from the repo its automaticly in PATH
[11:12] <iceroot> !repos | bouzbou
[11:12] <ahhughes> dr_willis, I just copy a complete ISO of the smaller partition to the larger. Done.
[11:13] <bouzbou> are you sur it's added automatically in the $PATH? It looks more like there put in a folder and that folder is in the PATH?
[11:14] <Onkeltem> benpicco: I've just tried 32nd kernel, same black screen issue.
[11:14] <benpicco> Onkeltem: so there is a signal, just no output - have you tried removing the quiet option from the kernel command line and see whetere it hangs?
[11:14] <dr_willis> bouzbou:  its autimatic
[11:14] <Onkeltem> benpicco: wow, and 28th doesn't load anymore again!
[11:14] <sacarlson> bouzbou: most runable apps will be installed in /bin or /usr/bin;  if they are admin then maybe /sbin ; /user/sbin
[11:14] <dr_willis> path is dirs. not files
[11:15] <Onkeltem> benpicco: ... and now 28th is loaded.
[11:16] <bouzbou> sacarlson: os so basically most of the packages I'll install with aptitude (php, mysql, git, ...) will be put in folders of the $PATH so everything is automatic it's not like windows?
[11:17] <ahhughes> would there be a problem using the mount point /data for my secondary "data" storgate partition?
[11:17] <Onkeltem> benpicco: I think its time to play with RAM chips - gonna plug them off and in
[11:17] <zabomber> hi. i just bought a new 3TB USB3 drive... in SuSe i would use a NSS Volume to create and add disks to a type of NAS... what disk system do i use in Ubuntu?
[11:18] <libc_killer> hi. can someone on a 64bit linux tell me where libc-2.xx should reside? i installed an incompatible version and restored functionality by copying the files in the libc6-bin.deb to the disk. but apt complains it's in the wrong path. i put it in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu as in the deb archive
[11:18] <sanjayb> i have an NTFS drive that is mounting read-only, refusing to mount rw. Have tried chkdsk / unmounting cleanly on windows and -o force,rw but no luck. Does anyone have a way to fix this?
[11:21] <zabomber> sanjayb: do you have ntfs3g installed?
[11:21] <zabomber> libc_killer: searching for it now
[11:21] <Ich> Hi there, I have made a bootable USB Stick with Ununtu 11.10. But my laptop doesn't supports USB Boot (in BIOS) now I wanted to install GRUB2 at my hard drive, to boot the USB stick. Can anyone tell me how I can do this? (Actually I wanna try to install Ubuntu with wubi at the hard drive. (but I doesn't need the whole Ubuntu at the hard drive. I just need the GRUB2 boot loader. Anyone any suggestion how I can just install GRUB2 to boot 
[11:22] <zabomber> libc_killer: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.13.so
[11:23] <libc_killer> zabomber: thank you! that's weird. i put it there but now apt complains that it shouldn't be there when i want to install a libc package
[11:23] <sanjayb> zabomber, i think i have ntfs3g .. lemme check, thanks.
[11:23] <sanjayb> zabomber: aaaah, i did not!! woohoo, you may have just saved my life. thank you, sir.
[11:24] <djbenny> Morning
[11:25] <sanjayb> zabomber: after installing ntfs-3g ... do i try something like sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force,rw /dev/sdb1 /mnt  .. ?
[11:25] <djbenny> dont suppose questions about 12.04 can be answered here?
[11:25] <wylde> djbenny:  #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <djbenny> cheers wylde
[11:26] <sacarlson> Ich: plop boot loader might be an alternative to enable you to boot your usb flash, using plop bootloader from a cd drive or other http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[11:27] <Ich> Ah thanks. this looks very good.
[11:27] <annecy> hi all, i've just upgraded firefox beta  and it has forced me to uninstall adobe-flasplugin and install xul-ext-ubufox.
[11:27] <amt0101> Hello world! I run 11.10 on my box and I stumbled upon a serious issue. My box doesn't want to update: http://bpaste.net/show/25337/ Has anyone encountered this?
[11:27] <sanjayb> zabomber: just unplugging the drive and re-plugging it in after installing ntfs-3g worked. thank you so much, again.
[11:27] <libc_killer> amt0101: looks like a networking issue
[11:28] <amt0101> libc_killer,  How can it be a networking issue since I talk from the box that doesn't want to update? :)
[11:28] <amt0101> libc_killer,  Also, I run 2 linux virtual machines that update fine ?:)
[11:28] <meep_> ubuntu is homosexual
[11:29] <libc_killer> amt0101: it's a different link.. maybe the server has a problem
[11:29] <libc_killer> amt0101: try a different mirror
[11:29] <amt0101> libc_killer,  Wow, haven't thought about that, thanks:) I'll see now if it works.
[11:31] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me please with ntfs mount?
[11:31] <sanjayb> go8765: what do you need ? :) i just got helped for a similar problem ..
[11:31] <sanjayb> go8765: whats the issue you're facing?
[11:32] <amt0101> libc_killer,  Neah, the same thing happens when I changed the mirror...I think I'll reinstall it
[11:32] <go8765> sanjayb: when i use pysdm and make ggod options some programm change it and i get mounting without write permissions :(
[11:33] <skiz> I'm having issues using the minimal installer from a USB drive to install a guided encrypted LVM installation on a newer thinkpad. The grub boot loader will not install to the MBR.  I have also tried manual partitioning, creating a boot partition, boot flag, etc. and I cannot get grub to install.  Is there perhaps some EFI issue or setting I need to overcome?
[11:33] <sanjayb> go8765: i dont know what pysdm is, but do you have ntfs-3g installed (apt-get install ntfs-3g ) ?
[11:33] <sanjayb> go8765: also, do you have access to a windows machine? try running chkdsk on it, and also make sure its safely removed from windows machine.
[11:33] <go8765> sanjayb: i change it for ntfsprogs
[11:34] <pooltable> how to block any thing with south park
[11:35] <sanjayb> go8765: well, i was just now having the same problem of a drive refusing to mount rw whatever i tried, and installing ntfs-3g fixed it. not sure if its the same problem, of course. i'd run a chkdsk on windows if you can, though.
[11:38] <Ich> sacarlson: Ah great this looks awesome. hm really easy to install. a big thanks. But I can test it in 10 minutes. thanks a lot for the programm.
[11:43] <BitPuffin[mobile> Wow... Unity + Compiz really needs to disable itself as much as it can when running fullscreen apps. And when just having a hardware accelerated window active
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| BitPuffin[mobile
[11:49] <zabomber> sanjayb: np!
[11:56] <Total_Oblivion> how can i install a chm viewer? thanks
[11:57] <conrad_> how doe i setyp myth tv in south africa to scn channels
[11:59] <bibi92> I have 2 folders in /usr/lib/php5 (20090626+lfs and 20100525+lfs), apparently php is trying to find extensions in the second one, it's causing warnings because some of them are in the 1st folder, should I move all of them to the second folder?
[11:59] <Gyro54> Hi!
[12:00] <programmer099> hey
[12:00] <programmer099> does anyone here know about booting ubuntu off a USB port
[12:00] <programmer099> if so can you PM me
[12:00] <Gyro54> How can I check if my HDMI out is recognised?
[12:00] <programmer099> I need some help
[12:01] <programmer099> ??
[12:01] <crazyrohila> anyone has exprience with git
[12:01] <crazyrohila> ?
[12:01] <programmer099> out of 1484 members no one wants to help
[12:02] <programmer099> these are extremely basic questions
[12:02] <bibi92> crazyrohila: wa=hat is your issue?
[12:03] <crazyrohila> i add a file to dir and now i want to create a patch
[12:03] <programmer099> ok I'll ask on here
[12:03] <bibi92> what do you mean by patch?
[12:03] <Total_Oblivion> why doesn't any song play on amarock? any help please? thank you :)
[12:04] <crazyrohila> bibi92, patch for drupal modules
[12:04] <crazyrohila> programmer099, whats your issue ?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> programmer099  plug in the pendrive, reboot PC, follow instructions
[12:05] <programmer099> I'm using a USB to boot ubuntu and I don't want to perma change my computer. and it says install ubuntu or try ubuntu I've used try but it won't save onto the USB, do I have to
[12:05] <programmer099> click install
[12:05] <programmer099> to install to the USB
[12:05] <programmer099> or will it install to the main hardrive
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> harddrive
[12:05] <programmer099> harddrive
[12:05] <crazyrohila> programmer099, it will install to your main hard drive
[12:06] <crazyrohila> you can TRY as guest user
[12:06] <programmer099> so how do I use the USB to save my setting
[12:06] <crazyrohila> it will not install and save configurations
[12:06] <crazyrohila> or
[12:06] <programmer099> s
[12:06] <programmer099> but not get rid of Windows
[12:06] <crazyrohila> no you cant in usb ?
[12:07] <crazyrohila> you can use remastersys
[12:07] <programmer099> so you can't use the
[12:07] <crazyrohila> programmer099, remastersys
[12:07] <crazyrohila> bibi92, when i changes a file then "git dif --no-prefix > patchfile.patch"
[12:07] <programmer099> usb stick as a portable computer
[12:08] <itaylor57> programmer099, you have to make a persistent live USB
[12:08] <programmer099> ??
[12:08] <crazyrohila> bibi92, makes a patch and i can apply these changes to other dir (same dir -> second copy)
[12:08] <itaylor57> !persistent
[12:08] <programmer099> ty
[12:09] <crazyrohila> bibi92, ?
[12:09] <bibi92> crazyrohila: ok, I never made something like that sorry
[12:10] <programmer099> so clicking Install Ubuntu won't work
[12:10] <programmer099> it will install onto the main harddrive
[12:11] <crazyrohila> bibi92, its okay :)
[12:13] <programmer099> what's the simplest way to install Ubuntu onto the Flash Drive so I can use it as a portable computer
[12:13] <programmer099> ?
[12:13] <itaylor57> crazyrohila, yes git can make a patch, you might get a better response in #git
[12:14] <pinged> programmer099: what's your host system running? ubuntu or windows?
[12:14] <programmer099> Mac lol
[12:14] <programmer099> but I have access to Windows
[12:14] <programmer099> if neeeded
[12:14] <crazyrohila> itaylor57, thanks
[12:15] <pinged> does it have to be persistent? e.g will you need to keep saved files on it?
[12:15] <programmer099> yes
[12:16] <jorma> Hello ive installed ubuntu on a USB drive. Is it possible to copy the casper.rw file to another usb stick which already has ubuntu?
[12:16] <pinged> programmer099: i'm not too sure as i haven't done this in a while, but you could try installing it using ubuntu usb creator from an ubuntu live cd
[12:17] <go8765> sanjayb: hm... when itry to remount devsees i get http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged
[12:17] <programmer099> how do you get an ubuntu live CD
[12:17] <programmer099> ?
[12:17] <go8765> sanjayb: how fx this?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> programmer099  just download it and burn to cd
[12:18] <crazyrohila> programmer099, I think easiest way is , install in a system and then save any configuration in it and install anything you want...now create a remastersys copy of it
[12:18] <itaylor57> programmer099, look at the link i sent you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:18] <dysoco> So a friend is trying to install Ubuntu 11.10, but he recives this error at LiveCD boot: "This kernel requieres the following features.... cx8 cmov" I suppose the Kernel requires that CPU Order, and this is an old CPU and doesn't have it... any ideas ? Maybe another (easy to use) distro that would work ? He's a completly newbie in GNU/Linux.
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> programmer099  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[12:18] <programmer099> ok, so a simple burn
[12:18] <dysoco> yep
[12:18] <programmer099> no terminal involved
[12:18] <dysoco> nope
[12:18] <crazyrohila> programmer099, now you can ,make a distro and can use it  as portable computer :)
[12:18] <pinged> dysoco: Is your friends computer using a 64-bit processor or a 32-bit one?
[12:18] <nuno_nunes> !pt
[12:18] <itaylor57> programmer099, the link tells you how to have a portable ubuntu via usb
[12:19] <nuno_nunes> hi
[12:19] <guest-KEeHQd> hello
[12:19] <dysoco> pinged, I'm not sure, he isn't online right now... but I think It's 32bits with a 32Bits LiveCD... It's a common bug it seems
[12:20] <dysoco> He could install Ubuntu 10.04, So it's a kernel issue
[12:20] <go8765> can anybody help me please with http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged
[12:21] <Total_Oblivion> hello, I am having trouble listening to songs at amarock (I can listen to them with rhythmbox though). Any help would be appreciated :)
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> go8765  what's your question, please, in human language
[12:21] <bibi92> when I'm installing apc with pecl, it's compiled with 20090626 and it's causing problems, I'd like to compile with 20100525, how can I do that?
[12:22] <go8765> MonkeyDust: i cant remount my usb-flash divises. get anprivilage error
[12:22] <crazyrohila> itaylor57, hi I joined #git channel
[12:22] <go8765> *root access
[12:22] <dysoco> Total_Oblivion, What kind of trouble ? You may want to ask in #kde or #kubuntu
[12:22] <crazyrohila> but when i write something it saying " #git :Cannot send to channel"
[12:22] <pinged> go8765: are you mounting from command line or gui
[12:22] <crazyrohila> my messages not going there
[12:23] <crazyrohila> ?
[12:23] <crazyrohila> itaylor57, ?
[12:23] <dysoco> crazyare you regiestered ?
[12:23] <TorbenBeta> Hello. Does anybody know how to restore deleted photos from a SD card (NTFS)? I already used photorec but it didn't give me good results.
[12:23] <leleela> i have a dell XPS. I have installed both windows and ubuntu. My speakers are not working on ubuntu but they work fine on windows.
[12:23] <crazyrohila> yeah
[12:23] <bibi92> crazyrohila: read the message above, you have to do something like /msg .voice
[12:23] <crazyrohila> bibi92, k
[12:24] <dysoco> crazyrohila, read the Topic in #git , it's explained there ;)
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> leleela  in a Terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM, go there and press M
[12:24] <Total_Oblivion> dysoco, i just hit play and nothing happens
[12:24] <dysoco> mmm... not sure, I don't use Amarok
[12:24] <crazyrohila> dysoco, :P thanks man
[12:24] <dysoco> Total_Oblivion, You may want to ask in #kde
[12:24] <leleela> i can see MM in a box.
[12:24] <go8765> pinged: i usse nautilus
[12:25] <bibi92> how can I install apc with php 5.4 on ubuntu?
[12:25] <leleela> what to do next @monkeydust
[12:25] <go8765> *use
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> leleela  use arrows to go there and press M
[12:26] <bibi92> pecl install apc is wrong because it's using PHP api version 20090626 instead of 20100525
[12:26] <leleela> it is not text. I am not able to change it.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> leleela  what do you mean 'it is not text'
[12:27] <go8765> pinnen: not command line - nautilus
[12:27] <monohedron> my menu entry for multitsystem is gone does anyone know what the executeable is called?
[12:28] <leleela> @monkeydust when i click on the arrow keys the value in the <Master field changes> you mean i will take the cursor to MM right? but there is no cursor on window.
[12:28] <programmer099> USB startup disk maker, how do you get this program?
[12:29] <programmer099> how do you get USB startup disk maker
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> leleela  on your keyboard, the left-right arrows to go there, then press M
[12:29] <arcanez> so I have ubuntu on my CR48 and I don't have enough space to download the newest ubuntu (oneric ocelot).. is there a mountpoint I can mount a flash drive or usb harddrive so I can upgrade?
[12:30] <Zaitzev> sigh, when I minimize certain programs (ones that gets minimized up to the "tray" next to the clock) tends to disappear..
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> arcanez  what version do you have installed now?
[12:30] <leleela> @monkeydust when i use the left arrow keys it shifts between Master, PCM, S/PDIF
[12:31] <leleela> there is no cursor here to go and change it.
[12:31] <arcanez> MonkeyDust: 11.04
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> leleela  no further advice, maybe someone else knows (MM means Mute)
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> arcanez  do you have a separate /home partiton?
[12:32] <leleela> anyone here knows how to change the MM status to M status? I cant see a cursor. My speakers are not working on ubuntu. Guys please help.
[12:33] <arcanez> MonkeyDust: no, and I have 629M free on .
[12:33] <arcanez> er /
[12:33] <llutz_> leleela: use right/left keys to hilight the entry you need, change it with "m" key
[12:34] <leleela> @llutz when i use my right/left arrow keys it shifts between master, PCM and s/pdif. It never goes to the MM box
[12:34] <monohedron> my menu entry for MultitSystem is gone, does anyone know what the executable is called?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> arcanez  my advice is, backup first and fresh install Ubuntu 11.10, but create a separate /home partition during installation
[12:34] <llutz_> leleela: but it goes to the column containing the MM
[12:35] <leleela> @llutz mm here is in a box. which i am not able to edit. it is not even getting selected.
[12:35] <llutz_> leleela: is this really so hard? You don't EDIT the MM, you highlight the column containing the MM and just press "m" to change the state
[12:36] <leleela> is there some command line program to do that. I swear it is not happening. I tried a lot. There is no cursor to edit it either. How to open the editor?
[12:36] <llutz_> leleela: you are a troll?
[12:37] <leleela> i wish i could take a screen shot and show it to you.
[12:37] <llutz_> leleela: what column has the MM entry (master, pcm, mic...)?
[12:37] <bazhang> leleela, press prtscrn
[12:37] <leleela> it is not in a column. It is seperate
[12:38] <llutz_> then your screen is mixed up
[12:38] <leleela> how to upload a picture.
[12:39] <bazhang> !paste| leleela
[12:39] <cnttucme> i would love some help with the apt commands i read online that there is a command to install packaged or dependencies. I tried installing a calculator and it kept saying i needed other packages.  those packages needed other ones, and so on. Is there any cleaver shortcut?
[12:40] <questineh> hello, guys, i'm a newer.
[12:40] <bazhang> cnttucme, apt resolves dependencies, where are you trying to install from
[12:40] <cnttucme> bazhang, do you want the site i got the package from?
[12:41] <llutz_> cnttucme: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:41] <cnttucme> llutz_ -f <filename>? yes?
[12:41] <leleela> @llutz http://imagebin.org/203903
[12:41] <llutz_> cnttucme: sudo apt-get -f install                nothing else
[12:42] <llutz_> leleela: so it's the S/PDIF column
[12:43] <DanielJose> hey folks.  I was having some issues with the way that unity was displaying the activation menu in 12.04 and I was wondering what files I could look at or send when reporting a bug.
[12:43] <llutz_> leleela: press "right" twice, S/PDIF should be red then, press "m" to unmute. but i doubt this will make your speaker work
[12:43] <locsmif> My username is logged on under several terminals, among them /dev/pts/0, but I don't see any process using /dev/pts/0. How can I find out which process uses /dev/pts/0
[12:43] <locsmif> ?
[12:43] <DanielJose> s/activation/application/
[12:44] <leleela> @llutz it is still not working. what to do?
[12:44] <llutz_> locsmif: lsof /dev/pts/0
[12:44] <locsmif> llutz_: ah yes, already did that
[12:44] <locsmif> just now.. showed kded
[12:44] <locsmif> Why doesn't ps aux -H show this?
[12:45] <llutz_> locsmif: btw, long time not seen :)
[12:45] <locsmif> Hi llutz_ :)
[12:45] <locsmif> llutz_: be careful, OT is punishable by death. ;-)
[12:45] <locsmif> llutz_: so, any idea?
[12:45] <leleela> @llutz how to make it work? my speakers are still not working. I pressed M and now the status is 00. still no osund
[12:45] <locsmif> lsof worked
[12:46] <locsmif> ps doesn't...
[12:46] <llutz_> locsmif: sry no idea
[12:46] <cnttucme> more detailed information on my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/887715/
[12:47] <GirlyGirl> Is it possible to restore the grub MBR after installing Windows 8 CP, without using an Ubuntu live cd?
[12:48] <leleela> can somone please help.? Speakers on my dell XPS are not working. i dont know why.
[12:49] <cnttucme> bazhang: i was trying to install from a tar.gz. I was able to unzip it via command line but when i try to use ./configure i get this error...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/887715/
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !mbr| GirlyGirl
[12:51] <GirlyGirl> MonkeyDust: I clearly said without using a livecd ... i.e from windows
[12:51] <leleela> its urgent guys. can somone please help.? Speakers on my dell XPS are not working. i dont know why.
[12:51] <cnttucme> Not at all?
[12:51] <cnttucme> What are you running? ubuntu?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> GirlyGirl  better ask that in  ##windows (that's double #)
[12:52] <vlt> Hello. When I run `sudo alsactl store` the current audio level is stored and shown in lightdm before logging in. But after logging in the audio level is always 100%. Any idea how to fix this?
[12:52] <monohedron> for reference gui_multisystem.sh
[12:52] <bazhang> cnttucme, whats the package name
[12:53] <cnttucme> tilem-0.973.tar.gz
[12:53] <nexusz99> Is there any document about x server architecture? writing detail.
[12:54] <cnttucme> bazhang: tilem-0.973.tar.gz
[12:54] <cnttucme>  but then it says i need gtk+- 0.000 or something
[12:55] <bibi92> hi, did someone installed php apc extension with php 5.4 on ubuntu?
[12:55] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1687776 cnttucme
[12:56] <DX099> hello, what's the meaning of this : http://paste2.org/p/1943367
[12:56] <bazhang> bibi92, from the repos php-apc
[12:57] <bazhang> !info php-apc | bibi92
[12:57] <bibi92> bazhang: I've tried this way and also with pecl but it's causin error
[12:57] <bibi92> because it's not compiled with 201052
[12:58] <bibi92> 20100525
[13:01] <bibi92> bazhang: ?
[13:01] <bazhang> bibi92, yes?
[13:02] <bibi92> I think this package is only compatible with php 5.3.6 not 5.4..
[13:03] <monsterrrr> How do I view hidden files in ubuntu 10:04
[13:03] <bazhang> monsterrrr, in nautilus?
[13:03] <worm> ls -a
[13:03] <monsterrrr> bazhang yep
[13:04] <bazhang> ctrl h, was it not?
[13:04] <wylde> monsterrrr: press ctrl+h in nautilus
[13:04] <monsterrrr> cheers
[13:04] <monsterrrr> !
[13:04] <wylde> monsterrrr: or click the view menu and select hidden files
[13:05] <monsterrrr> Can the user be fooled into seeing a txt thumbnail for an image file?
[13:06] <TheWillOfD> my xchat-gnome keeps on logging conversations even though it is disabled :(
[13:06] <Shojo> did u turn off scrolling?
[13:07] <TheWillOfD> i un-ticked log conversations
[13:07] <obiwlan> is there a ppa with vde enabled kvm packages for ubuntu? i tried to compile it myself by issuing apt-get build-deps qemu-kvm; apt-get source qemu-kvm followed by the usual steps, but apparently something in libc-2.15 changed that breaks it
[13:07] <robin0800> Shojo: the non gnome xchat is better IMHO
[13:08] <TheWillOfD> i'll probably switch to that
[13:08] <Shojo> i never tried the "non gnome XChat"
[13:08] <Shojo> but i love this too much to try:P
[13:08] <TheWillOfD> how do i turn off scrolling?
[13:08] <j3rzu_> hi all
[13:09] <Shojo> Stting>Preferences>Text box> Scrollback lines=0
[13:10] <TheWillOfD> i dont have the settings tab
[13:10] <TheWillOfD> but i do have edit-->preferences
[13:10] <TheWillOfD> but no text box
[13:11] <Shojo> oh, but i don't know that  XChat
[13:11] <TheWillOfD> .26.1
[13:11] <Shojo> i'm on Linux 3.0.0.-12-generic XChat 2.8.8
[13:12] <TheWillOfD> i see :D
[13:12] <Shojo> didn't try other versions :P
[13:13] <Shojo> i've set the fonts, colours, background to pretty to try other :P
[13:14] <nekro> 2on2 off
[13:15] <DX099> http://paste2.org/p/1943367, still no clue anyone ?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> DX099  what's your question in human language?
[13:16] <Shojo> haha MonkeyDust  :)
[13:16] <wynn> where does gapcmon store it's monitor files?
[13:18] <DX099> MonkeyDust, well I already posted it but I will ask again : Why are those errors showing when installing nvidia-current from official repos ? and why is the /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/ directory empty after installation ?
[13:22] <BigBear> #diaspora
[13:26] <llutz_> !info dttsp
[13:26] <llutz_> !info sdr-shell precise
[13:26] <monohedron_> !info multisystem
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> monohedron_  i use multisystem, you have to download it here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> multisystem takes over your locals, whereas unetbootin does not
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> locales
[13:35] <normalguy> may i ask a question regarding my printer Lexmark/3600-4600%20Series which seems to have a problem with my cups interface
[13:37] <normalguy> the error seems to be per log    'printer-state-message': u'The Printer cannot communicate with the computer.',
[13:38] <go8765> can anybody please help me with mounting ntfs? wheen i remount devices i get error about permissions :(
[13:38] <monohedron> normalguy, i had that game on a few dyas ago
[13:38] <monohedron> normalguy, are you 32 or 64 bit
[13:38] <normalguy> 32 bit
[13:39] <monohedron> did you get the last driver from lexmark ?
[13:39] <normalguy> yes i did
[13:41] <monohedron> well  i had to maually remove all printers, reinstall the driver. after connect the printer and set ip up over 'system-config-printer'
[13:41] <monohedron> almost drove me nuts and if you don't follow the steps in order it just doesn't do it
[13:42] <normalguy> thanks i 'll try that
[13:42] <injureddeer> why my /var/log/boot dont work? i have "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" and in /etc/default/bootlogd i have "BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes", my distro is debian/wheezy
[13:42] <llutz_> injureddeer: ask in #debian, have you installed bootlogd?
[13:43] <xeviox> is it possible to install logwatch with nullmailer? It seems that postfix is a dependency of logwatch, is it possible to install the logwatch package without postfix?
[13:43] <nraic> I installed mint on a new hdd and something went wrong with grub.
[13:44] <nraic> So I reinstalled grub
[13:44] <nraic> but now it loads with a console and no options
[13:44] <nraic> is this the expected result? Do you need to configure grub manually?
[13:44] <itaylor57> !mint | nraic
[13:45] <xeviox> nraic: which grub?
[13:45] <nraic> No No, I was playing around with mint
[13:45] <llutz_> xeviox: sudo apt-get install logwatch nullmailer      should work
[13:45] <normalguy> one question about system config printer
[13:45] <nraic> I'm back in Ubuntu now
[13:45] <sda1986> hi all, let's assume I have 3 different network to use at the same time, a standard internet and 2 subtnet, Usually i should choose one of those 3 to use, because I have a different ip for each of them. I have multiple computer who need to do that, and all of the should have their ip on the network. I would like to build a router who can help me to be connected to all 3 net at the same time.
[13:45] <xeviox> llutz: thanks!
[13:45] <nraic> and grub isn't working
[13:45] <nraic> xeviox, grub2 I assume
[13:45] <nraic> I followed the instructions online to reinstall grub
[13:46] <xeviox> nraic: grub2 has a command that parses existing configurations and creates the grub menu, check for that command in the forums
[13:46] <nraic> ok cool, so this needs to be done after a reinstall
[13:46] <nraic> of grub I mean
[13:47] <xeviox> nraic: I don't know, but if the menu is empty I would try to recreate it first ..
[13:48] <robin0800> nraic: update-grub does it automatically its os prober or something like that
[13:49] <nraic> xeviox, it just default to a grub console. No menu is shown at all
[13:49] <nraic> robin0800, should this be run from a livecd?
[13:50] <vlt> Hello. When I run `sudo alsactl store` the current audio level is stored and shown in lightdm before logging in. But after logging in the audio level is always 100%. Any idea how to fix this?
[13:50] <feisar> hi all, 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade' result in the following error: http://pastebin.com/YbUcuuCy could someone give me a clue as to why that might be? (server 10.04)
[13:50] <aslan> hi
[13:50] <injureddeer> llutz_: thx, i didn't know i need install it lolz
[13:50] <xeviox> nraic: it should be run on your system (with the empty menu)
[13:51] <wylde> feisar: did you do the apt-get -f install?
[13:52] <feisar> no, I didn't yet, wanted to check first
[13:52] <feisar> that's ok to run then - I have been lead to be wary of -force etc.
[13:53] <llutz_> injureddeer: fine, but still this is #ubuntu, not #debian
[13:53] <robin0800> nraic: yes
[13:53] <Seea> hi, any 1 know any varriant of rocketdock to ubuntu ?
[13:53] <wylde> feisar: perfectly safe to run
[13:53] <sic> test
[13:53] <injureddeer> llutz_: but it is same on this way
[13:54] <bazhang> injureddeer, debian is not supported here
[13:54] <injureddeer> but there is none diffrence there
[13:54] <injureddeer> ._.
[13:54] <Seea> docky any 1 tested it ?
[13:54] <nraic> robin0800, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub
[13:54] <injureddeer> u dont like debian so much?
[13:54] <bazhang> injureddeer, its offtopic.
[13:54] <k_sze> For the life of me, I can't get SAMBA to work in 11.10.
[13:54] <nraic> robin0800, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[13:55] <k_sze> I can't even get the machine to appear in my workgroup. It's like... total facepalm.
[13:55] <wylde> feisar: http://pastebin.com/0KPHpKMf -f with apt-get doesn't mean force btw :)
[13:55] <nraic> robin0800, even thought I just mounted.
[13:55] <robin0800> nraic: yes you must mount it first
[13:55] <feisar> wylde: ah ok, thanks for the help : )
[13:55] <xergo> hi
[13:56] <meerkats> if I delete content via root nautilus, do I have to erase it in the bin too?
[13:56] <wylde> feisar: no problem
[13:56] <bazhang> meerkats, delete what
[13:56] <xergoX> hi
[13:56] <xergoX> :D
[13:56] <meerkats> bazhang, files and folders
[13:56] <bazhang> meerkats, you dont ever want to use that lightly
[13:56] <compdoc> k_sze, any firewall enabled?
[13:56] <k_sze> compdoc: no
[13:56] <bazhang> meerkats, what exactly
[13:56] <meerkats> bazhang, redundant copies made by me in a HDD
[13:56] <compdoc> k_sze, is the service running?
[13:57] <grobda24> What is going on with themes in 11.10 ? There is not place to install new themes through the UI. I've used "MyUnity" to set new themes, but only three appear in the main "Appearence" through control panel.
[13:57] <k_sze> compdoc: If I open GADMIN-SAMBA, I see the green "Status: Activated" at the top right of the window.
[13:58] <grobda24> I'm also unsure if I'm supposed to be using compiz themes ( http://compiz-themes.org/ ) or gnome themes in 11.10
[13:58] <meerkats> the thing is it says that, after sending the unneeded files to the bin, I only have 500 MB of data, but the graphic right below, in yellos and blue, marks 5GB as used data, which I assume are the contents I just deleted...
[13:59] <meerkats> I have 2 counts on memory size
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> grobda24  try gnome-tweak-tool
[13:59] <robin0800> grobda24: as long as they are gtk3 they should work
[14:00] <grobda24> MonkeyDust, thanks I'll try that
[14:00] <compdoc> k_sze, dont think Ive ever seen gadmin-samba. You sure its compatible with the newer versions of Ubuntu?
[14:00] <grobda24> But what about the official handling of themes. At least on my installation it looks like I can choose officially from 3 themes and I can't install any new ones !
[14:00] <k_sze> compdoc: I installed it through synaptic, from the official ocelot repository.
[14:01] <k_sze> so I assume it is compatible.
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> grobda24  with gnome-tweak-tool, you can
[14:01] <grobda24> Of course *I* know how to unpack new themes in a directory, but the old Appearence applet worked fine
[14:01] <meerkats> how do I clean the trash via command line?
[14:01] <robin0800> grobda24: create a .themes directory in your home folder
[14:01] <Kaaj> hey guys, I want to install xubuntu over this current linux installation except the swap is only 500mb, what should I do?
[14:01] <grobda24> MonkeyDust, yes, but it's not in there by default right
[14:02] <grobda24> robin0800, yes, as I was saying, I already know how to do that, but thanks :)
[14:02]  * grobda24 goes away to install gnome tweak tool
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> grobda24  why go away? just do sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool?
[14:03] <grobda24> MonkeyDust, what, in the xchat window ?! :P
[14:03] <bazhang> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[14:03] <robin0800> grobda24: then install gnome-tweak-tool or myunity or ubuntu-tweak to select them the appearance thing can't
[14:04] <Kaaj> can anyone help me?
[14:04] <vlt> What’s your problem?
[14:04] <vlt> Kaaj: ^
[14:04] <Kaaj> I want to install xubuntu over this current linux installation except the swap is only 500mb, what should I do?
[14:04] <bazhang> Kaaj, to resize swap? or install the xubuntu-desktop package, which one
[14:04] <Kaaj> well is the swap okay?
[14:04] <grobda24> robin0800, yes cheers :) ... I just wonder WHY the Appearence tab has ended up this way but should prob take this to Ubuntu ideas site or whatever its called
[14:04] <compdoc> k_sze, system-config-samba is basic and works for sure. In any case, samba is mainly concerned with the conf file, and that the service is actually running. try this command:   sudo /etc/init.d/samba status
[14:05] <Kaaj> I' m not very knowledgable in this area
[14:05] <bazhang> Kaaj, whats the ram
[14:05] <Kaaj> 4gb ram
[14:07] <Kaaj> so what do I do?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> grobda24  OT: in order to keep the .iso small enough to fit on a cd, some packages have been left out, gnome-tweak-tool did not have high priority, i guess
[14:07] <Kaaj> does it need to be resized or....?
[14:07] <Kaaj> and if so, how?
[14:07] <bazhang> Kaaj, how does it run now
[14:07] <bazhang> Kaaj, try installing and running the xubuntu-desktop pakcage and see first
[14:07] <Kaaj> alright
[14:08] <bazhang> Kaaj, after installing choose xubuntu from the login menu
[14:08] <grobda24> MonkeyDust, yeah I understand. Just seems a bit major to remove the users ability to easily install new themes (yeah, I know ~/.themes is "easy")
[14:08] <Kaaj> oh no, I'm completely installing xubuntu from scratch
[14:08] <Kaaj> over my current linux installation
[14:08] <xpr3ss> OK, So im running UBUNTU 11.10 and the battery indicator doesnt show up until its either nearly dead or its charging and it gets close to a full battery....ANY HELP???
[14:08] <Kaaj> I'm not installing  the package from terminal or anything
[14:08] <bazhang> Kaaj, you have ubuntu now?
[14:09] <Kaaj> elementary OS
[14:09] <Kaaj> was trying things out
[14:09] <Ebron> How would I go about defaulting to setting the sticky bit on new folders in a specific directory in ubuntu?
[14:09] <bazhang> Kaaj, whats the base for that? ubuntu, gnome, what
[14:09] <Kaaj> ubuntu
[14:09] <bazhang> Kaaj, ok
[14:09]  * grobda24 takes his OT thing to brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[14:10] <Kaaj> do you think xubuntu will run okay with 500mb swap?
[14:10] <xeviox> what do I have to use as "mailer = " in the logwatch conf to use "nullmailer"?
[14:10] <vlt> Kaaj: BTW it’s best to use (or rather need) no SWAP at all.
[14:10] <bazhang> well if gnome is running fine, sure
[14:10] <Kaaj> oh really?
[14:11] <bazhang> vlt, not really. some swap is better than none
[14:11] <vlt> Using swap space is good for “emergency” cases.
[14:11] <Kaaj> ooh I don't really know much about it
[14:11] <vlt> Kaaj: Usually you don’t want the system (kernel) to swap.
[14:12] <rileyp> how do i adjust the font size on the desktop in kde its so small I can barely read it
[14:12] <vlt> Kaaj: But sometimes a program running suddenly needs more RAM than the machine physically provides.
[14:13] <GKoo> anyone around here that has extensive knowledge of the dhcp server ?
[14:13] <vlt> Kaaj: It depends on the programs running on that machine how many emergency swap space you consider enough.
[14:13] <vlt> !anyone | GKoo
[14:13] <GKoo> how can i use 2 different subnets on the same dhcp server considering the fact that i have no vlans in my network
[14:14] <bastidrazor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq  is a good read.
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> "sudo fallocate" :)
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> haha
[14:15] <riveryk> Buenos dias, mi pregunta es si se puede utilizar tuvpn en ubuntu 11.10 ??
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !es
[14:16] <nubuntu> hello
[14:16] <injureddeer> where can i get all hosts/ip what request whois command? i wanna got it to add to my firewall, don't ask why, i just need it and i know what i do :p
[14:17] <rileyp> GKoo a dhcp server will only work on 1 subnet you can however bridge tie two subnets together I think
[14:17] <rileyp> how do i adjust the font size on the desktop in kde its so small I can barely read it
[14:18] <escott> rileyp, if it is a high resolution display you might want to increase the dpi through xrandr rools
[14:18] <escott> rileyp, tools
[14:18] <Titomen> i have ubuntu on software raid 5..one of my hard drive died...any reason to replace the dead disk with a bigger disk size
[14:19] <vlt> Titomen: You won’t be able to use additional space … until you will finally have replaced all drives with bigger ones ;-)
[14:19] <pangolin> rileyp, K > System Settings > Application Appearance
[14:20] <escott> Titomen, you won't be able to use it as part of the array if thats what you want to know
[14:20] <rileyp> escott its a 1080p projector and I sit 3 metres away and the font is tiny so I need to adjust something so all text is bigger and yes thats it i think the dpi
[14:20] <escott> Titomen, but you could use it outside of the array
[14:20] <rileyp> pangolin:  thanks
[14:21] <vlt> Titomen: You _can_ use it without problems but the usuable size is limited by the smallest raid member.
[14:21] <vlt> s/usuable/usable
[14:21] <Titomen> ok what in the future i can get the other 2 disk and resize them to grwo the array
[14:21] <vlt> Titomen: Yes.
[14:22] <Titomen> the disk now are 3 500 gib..the price on 1 gig terrabity is just $30 more..isint it worth?
[14:23] <vlt> Titomen: You have to decide. Depending on when you will replace the other two.
[14:24] <Titomen> what about just getting the same 500 and in the future adding more disk to the raid 5..will this work
[14:25] <vlt> Titomen: Your choice.
[14:25] <erinaceus> Hi, i'm having trouble with my hdd it seems i accidently erased the partition table and now im trying to restore it. But so far i had no luck. Could someone point me towards the right procedure or something similiar?
[14:25] <vlt> erinaceus: Do you know how many partitions you had?
[14:26] <Titomen> vlt: but can this be done
[14:26] <erinaceus> Not for sure, about 7
[14:26] <vlt> Titomen: Yes, you can add members anytime.
[14:26] <Titomen> vlt: any vbenefit of adding a lvm on top of software raid
[14:27] <erinaceus> vlt: Plus the disk isnt even being detected by gparted, so im not quite sure if im able to create a new partition table the traditional way
[14:27] <k_sze> compdoc: w. t. f. Synaptic shows that I have "samba" installed, but I don't actually have "/etc/init.d/samba"
[14:28] <compdoc> k_sze, its possible it doesnt install that script. what about /etc/init.d/smbd?
[14:29] <vlt> Titomen: Always :-)
[14:29] <k_sze> I have that one.
[14:29] <gdea73> I think in 10.04 or greater, samba's services are smbd and nmbd, not "samba."
[14:29] <Titomen> why and will i loos the date on the raid when i install lvm on top of raid
[14:30] <llutz_> k_sze: upstart uses /etc/init/*.conf not /etc/init.d/* anymore
[14:30] <gdea73> i.e., if you need to restart samba, you would run restart smbd and restart nmbd. If that's what you were trying to do. I believe in Ubuntu 9.x, you would have to say /etc/init.d/samba restart.
[14:30] <vlt> Titomen: Yes. /dev/mdX are block devices now …
[14:30] <vlt> Titomen: You use them for whatever you chose: File systems, swap space …
[14:31] <k_sze> llutz_: and that means... ?
[14:31] <vlt> Titomen: To be able to use a block device as a physical device “PV” (an LVM source) you have to add an LVM header
[14:31] <llutz_> k_sze: that it makes no sense to look for /etc/init.d/whatever-file
[14:31] <gdea73> k_sze: what were you trying to do? Stop, start, or restart the Samba service? (or something else?)
[14:32] <ironhalik> anyone tried sending USSD codes from a miniPCIe-to-USB 3g modem?
[14:32] <k_sze> gdea73: get Samba working, anyhow.
[14:32] <gdea73> k_sze: that's why you'd use the start, stop, or restart commands followed by the module name to perform actions on them.
[14:32] <Titomen> at present i have raid1 boot raid 1 swap raid 5 systewm raid 5 home...what will be the advantage of lvm
[14:32] <JermB0b> hey hey
[14:32] <vlt> erinaceus: If the disk could be damaged I’d highly reccommend making an identical copy NOW. You can use something like ddrescue.
[14:32] <gdea73> oh, well in my case the first step to get Samba working is to set the workgroup name, which I found easiest to do by installing the "Samba" program in USC.
[14:33] <gdea73> k_sze: because from there you can also set up share-based security, password encryption, guest account, etc.
[14:33] <k_sze> gdea73: `sudo start samba`?
[14:33] <gdea73> k_sze: that sounds right.
[14:33] <gdea73> but it should be running already.
[14:33] <k_sze> weird
[14:33] <erinaceus> vlt: The disk is not physically damage if you mean that. I accidently started grub-install with the wrong parameters and soon after this it wouldnt recognize the enitre hdd
[14:33] <k_sze> I get "start: Unknown job: samba"
[14:34] <llutz_> k_sze: sudo service smbd start
[14:34] <gdea73> oh sorry, I meant smbd.
[14:34] <gdea73> right, you'd run "sudo start smbd"
[14:34] <gdea73> (and nmbd, the hostname/naming daemon)
[14:34] <k_sze> llutz_: "start: Job is already running: smbd"
[14:35] <k_sze> same with nmbd (already running)
[14:35] <llutz_> k_sze: so and whats your problem now?
[14:35] <gdea73> k_sze: if you've already used the graphical Samba program to set your workgroup and other server settings, try this thread's Problem 3 parts I and II: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
[14:36] <k_sze> llutz_: the machine still doesn't appear in my workgroup.
[14:36] <gdea73> which machine, another Ubuntu machine or a Windows one?
[14:36] <llutz_> k_sze: check your smb.conf and listen to gdea73
[14:36] <gdea73> okay, well first see if you can access it directly via its IP address: smb://192.168.1.X, or 10.0.1.X, depending on your router
[14:36] <k_sze> gdea73: I can't see the Ubuntu machine from my Windows 7 machine.
[14:37] <gdea73> k_sze: alright, we can fix that.
[14:37] <gdea73> but first see if outgoing connections work from Ubuntu
[14:37] <gdea73> via the IP address (in the file browser, Ctrl + L, and then smb://192.168.1.X)
[14:37] <gdea73> if you don't know the W7 box's IP, just run ipconfig in a command prompt.
[14:37] <k_sze> gdea73: I can ping the ubuntu machine from the windows 7 machine.
[14:38] <gdea73> okay... that's, supposed to work. Can you also ping the W7 machine from Ubuntu
[14:38] <gdea73> ?
[14:38] <gdea73> (try Network Tools under System -> Administration)
[14:38] <k_sze> gdea73: yes,
[14:39] <k_sze> I can ping the win7 machine
[14:39] <gdea73> alright that's good, your network's configured properly.
[14:39] <gdea73> so do you have Samba shares available on the W7 machine, with browsing access enabled?
[14:39] <artu> hi all, someone can tell me if "LSI SAS 9212-4i4e HBA" work on ubuntu?
[14:40] <bazhang> artu, is that a video card?
[14:40] <artu> SAS controller
[14:40] <gdea73> k_sze: Are you able to view the shares on the Win7 computer if you access it via its IP address? Open a file browser window in Ubuntu, hit Ctrl + L, and type smb:// followed by the Win7 box's IP addres.
[14:41] <gdea73> * address.
[14:41] <artu> http://www.lsi.com/products/storagecomponents/Pages/LSISAS9212-4i4e.aspx
[14:42] <Mongoose> Trying to understand the internet and ubuntu but in Network Tools what does the IP address of 127.0.0.1 mean? Where is that address?
[14:43] <gdea73> okay well, k_sze, I better go charge my laptop soon, so here's what I suggest you do assuming you can browse by IP:
[14:43] <gdea73> Mongoose: 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address, it leads back to your local PC. If you were hosting a website on it with Apache or something, it would display in your web browser if you put it to 127.0.0.1.
[14:43] <gdea73> It's the same thing as "localhost"
[14:44] <Mongoose> thanks
[14:44] <gdea73> k_sze: Try to install the "Samba" application in Ubuntu Software Center, and open it and go to Server Settings. Enter your workgroup name, server description, and security settings (I usually do "share", "yes," "nobody").
[14:44] <weox>  hello guy's ,, i have a quastion ,my is too old and gnome and ubuntu dosn't worl currectly , i want install lxde , but i have a qustion ,program like anjuta and smplayer  will work on lxde ??
[14:44] <gdea73> k_sze: if you still can't browse your workgroup in the "Network" area of Nautilus, try some of the fixes in the thread I mentioned: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149 Other than that, good luck :)
[14:44] <weox> my is old == my computer
[14:45] <gdea73> weox: I'd imagine there are programs like those for LXDE, though they may not be the exact same.
[14:45] <bazhang> weox, sure they will work.
[14:45] <gdea73> if you want to run LXDE, check out Lubuntu. They have an irc channel here, #lubuntu, and you can install LXDE over a current installation.
[14:45] <k_sze> gdea73: ok, I can browse my win7 folders from the ubuntu machine.
[14:45] <gdea73> bazhang: okay thanks.
[14:45] <gdea73> k_sze: really? cool! what'd you do? :D
[14:46] <gdea73> did you try the Samba-gtk utility? or did you edit the conf file manually? either way works, I just found the GUI version easier for setting up new shares, etc.
[14:46] <erinaceus> vlt: Do you have experience with ddrescue? Cause i have a small question, when i execute something like ddrescue /dev/sdc /dev/sda does it overwrite the data on /dev/sda or generate a file on it?
[14:46] <k_sze> I didn't do anything...
[14:47] <gdea73> k_sze: lol, well that's always a nice solution XD
[14:47] <gdea73> well that's good that it works. though wait, can you browse the Win7 shares from Ubuntu yet?
[14:47] <gdea73> (did you configure the workgroup to match your Windows workgroup?)
[14:47] <k_sze> nono
[14:48] <k_sze> I can browse the win7 shares from ubuntu
[14:48] <k_sze> not the other way around.
[14:48] <gdea73> ohh okay
[14:48] <k_sze> lol
[14:48] <weox> and another quastion i have in desktop environment  which is the fastest and lightest ?? i am java developer and i want switch to GTK+ , i just want work with GTK+ develop tools , i dont want 3d support and something like that only ide and chrome !!
[14:48] <gdea73> do you need to use the IP from Ubuntu, or does it work with the hostname?
[14:48] <bazhang> weox, lubuntu would be that
[14:48] <gdea73> weox: LXDE is extremely lightweight and fast. I've tried it. Very minimal. I think you'd like it. Check out "lubuntu" :)
[14:48] <erinaceus> weox: awesome is pretty good
[14:49] <gdea73> well anyway k_sze assuming it works with the hostname from Ubuntu, you should install the program samba-gtk
[14:50] <gdea73> oh sorry, k_sze, it's system-config-samba
[14:50] <gdea73> you can install it via apt-get or via USC if you search for "Samba."
[14:50] <neyder_> hi there, i'm trying network installation of edubuntu workstations, so in tasksel do i have to choose ubuntu-desktop? 'cause i have selected edubuntu-desktop
[14:50] <k_sze> gdea73: strangely enough, doesn't work with hostname
[14:50] <weox> gdea73,bazhang, i am on ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome , can i just install LXDE , or should i reinstall ubuntu  complatly ??(sorry for my bad language !!)
[14:50] <gdea73> Configure your server in there and set up the workgroup, share/security settings, and you should be good
[14:50] <gdea73> weox: you can definitely install LXDE from where you are now, I think...
[14:50] <James-LEE> g
[14:50] <bazhang> weox, lubuntu-desktop package
[14:50] <gdea73> look up the Lubuntu documentation, I know there's a way, I think you just install lubuntu-desktop
[14:51] <weox> erinaceus, i can understand your porpuse , what is awesome ?? LXDE ?? i want try it :D
[14:51] <gdea73> but there's also another argument I thought they said you were to run, and there are more details if you want to remove Gnome or whatever DE you were using previously.
[14:51] <k_sze> gdea73: I can browse the win7 machine by IP, but not by hostname, weird.
[14:51] <dysoco> weox, Window Managers and DE
[14:51] <gdea73> k_sze: actually that's a common problem. You probably just need to be added to the workgroup, and you might need to try a few other solutions. Just hang in there. Have you installed the Samba configuration program yet?
[14:51] <weox> thank's guy's ,,, very very much :D
[14:51] <dysoco> bazhang, you can also just install LXDE instead of Lubuntu-Desktop
[14:51] <erinaceus> weox: There is a tiling window manager called awesome, it's pretty lightweight and easy on the eye, altough it is probably not suitable for newcomers to linux or people that dont want to configure everything themselves.
[14:52] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde   weox followed by this
[14:52] <gdea73> dysoco is right too, if you don't want the whole lubuntu setup
[14:52] <dysoco> I prefer DWM to Awesome, there are a lot of Tilings WM to choose
[14:52] <k_sze> gdea73: it's already installed
[14:52] <gdea73> bazhang: right thanks, that's what I was referring to.
[14:52] <gdea73> k_sze: alright, what have you configured it as? Open it and go to Server Settings.
[14:53] <gdea73> k_sze: sorry, Preferences -> Server Settings (within the Samba GUI control panel)
[14:53] <k_sze> gdea73: the workgroup? same as my win7 machine's
[14:53] <gdea73> make sure you set the workgroup, also I recommend you change the Authentication Mode to "share," that way you set user right based on each share.
[14:54] <gdea73> k_sze: yes, it's essential that they're the same.
[14:54] <gdea73> (minus capitalization, I don't think it matters in that case.)
[14:54] <k_sze> gdea73: uppercase and lowercase doesn't matter, right?
[14:54] <k_sze> lol
[14:54] <gdea73> ^^ probably not. You can do all caps if you want to feel safe ;)
[14:54] <gdea73> Windows always puts it in uppercase.
[14:54] <k_sze> erm...
[14:54] <k_sze> I clicked ok
[14:54] <gdea73> Also I put my guest account as nobody, but that means they'll only have as many rights as the "everyone else" section of the file permissions
[14:55] <gdea73> k_sze: okay... ?
[14:55] <vlt> erinaceus: (In case it hasn’t been answered yet:) `ddrescue /dev/sdc /dev/sda` will of course overwrite sda. If you want to create an image file you need a file system to out in in.
[14:55] <vlt> erinaceus: That file system has to mounted somewhere.
[14:55] <k_sze> and I see in the console: "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found."
[14:55] <gdea73> well make sure you do the authentication part, and also I guess you can leave guest account on none, for now. Otherwise you'd have to adjust file permissions and stuff...
[14:55] <pc> !add
[14:56] <gdea73> hey all, do you know how to get the grid-view of file permissions in Nautilus? It works on one of my desktops running 10.10 but I haven't seen it anywhere else.
[14:56] <erinaceus> vlt: So could i specify a simple outputfile like ~/backup ?
[14:56] <gdea73> k_sze: sometimes you'll need to run sudo restart smbd and sudo restart nmbd before samba browsing will work, after configuration, just FYI
[14:56] <vlt> erinaceus: Yes.
[14:56] <erinaceus> vlt: Great thanks, im gonna try that
[14:57] <gdea73> k_sze: also if you have deliberately enabled a client-side firewall like ufw, that will screw with Samba a lot.
[14:57] <gdea73> alright I have to go charge my laptop, and do stuff :P, so I may be back on later. Good luck with Samba :)
[14:57] <vlt> erinaceus: You can use (copies of) that image file for tests with restoring partitions then.
[14:58] <Galicja> Rock -n- Roll baby!   Who has a more recent Linux Kernel than this?   uname -a:  Linux Karpaty 3.3.0-rc7-git-0c4d067-EJM-CUSTOM #1 Fri Mar 16 14:07:54 CET 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux   ;)
[14:58] <oCean> Galicja: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:59]  * k_sze bangs head on a spiked table.
[14:59] <k_sze> still no workie after restarting smbd and nmbd
[14:59] <wynn> where are the gapcmon monitor files stored?
[15:00] <k_sze> from my win7 machine, I still can't browse my ubuntu machine whether by IP or by hostname
[15:00] <MrHanjrah> k_sze: check your firewall setting
[15:00] <MrHanjrah> k_sze: and what kind of server is configured on ubuntu machine?
[15:01] <erinaceus> vlt: So i got two lines with 0x00000000 as position and size and then it stopped, im guessing that means im screwed?
[15:01] <vlt> erinaceus: From ddrescue?
[15:02] <erinaceus> Yep, i executed : ddrescue /dev/sdc ~/backup ~/logfile
[15:02] <vlt> erinaceus: Is the file system that contains your home dir big enough to hold the whole /dev/sdc?
[15:03] <k_sze> MrHanjrah: the firewall (ufw) has been off the whole time
[15:03] <erinaceus> vlt:  You've got a point there, it's from the livedisk, so no.
[15:03] <k_sze> I have an Ocelot desktop machine.
[15:03] <k_sze> this is the first time I'm so pissed off about something not working with Ubuntu.
[15:03] <vlt> erinaceus: o_O
[15:04] <syst3mfailur3> hey, i've got a quick questiion. should I use "update-grub" or "update-grub2"?
[15:04] <erinaceus> vlt: My bad im gonna try it with another location
[15:05] <k_sze> somehow I got Bonjour/AFP sharing working relatively easily. Samba is just a complete clusterfuck.
[15:05] <oCean> k_sze: control your language here, please
[15:05] <Kevin__H> How can I open a csv or html file in ubuntu?
[15:05] <zykotic10> syst3mfailur3: it doesn't matter - they're the same
[15:05] <BoD`> Hi!
[15:05] <syst3mfailur3> zykotic10: thank you
[15:06] <UndergrounD> whats all this discussion about anonymous OS 0.1
[15:06] <bazhang> UndergrounD, offtopic here
[15:07] <amit0520> Hello, I recently signed up for ubuntuone and all of a sudden  My Pictures/Music/Video folders disappeared. I checked ubuntuone folder and they're not there either
[15:07] <sacarlson> Kevin__H: to view it?  maybe firefox;  to edit maybe gedit;
[15:07] <amit0520> please help
[15:07] <bazhang> amit0520, #ubuntuone
[15:07] <Kevin__H> Can I do it from command line?
[15:07] <BoD`> I have a hard drive problem, and in /var/log/syslog I see complains about 'ata1' - since I have 2 hard drives, how can I know which one it is
[15:08] <Kevin__H> firefox <filename> ??
[15:08] <BoD`> sysinfo talks about scsi0, scsi1 and scsi4...
[15:08] <UndergrounD> ok
[15:08] <erinaceus> vlt: Sadly changing the location didnt help
[15:08] <escott> BoD`, unless your computer is very old you probably are using sata not ata
[15:09] <llutz_> BoD`: dmesg|grep ata1
[15:09] <BoD`> escott: I guess.  But still :) in the logs it talks about 'ata1'  and sometimes about 'ata1.00'
[15:09] <sacarlson> Kevin__H: you could open it from nautilus  or that should also work
[15:09] <llutz_> escott: since its all libata today, those devices are called ataX
[15:10] <BoD`> llutz_: thnx
[15:10] <Kevin__H> firefox <filename> seemed to work...
[15:10] <BoD`> that helped
[15:10] <vlt> erinaceus: Does syslog or output of `dmesg` say something nasty?
[15:10] <MrHanjrah> k_sze: sorry was away, hmm, basically the way i know you need samba configured correctly to share files between windows and linux box, you could also configure vsftp to achieve the same
[15:11] <tomodo> hi
[15:11] <tomodo> ubuntu is showing movie file icons
[15:11] <tomodo> as stills from the movie
[15:11] <tomodo> can I turn that off?
[15:12] <tomodo> OMG
[15:12] <erinaceus> vlt: http://pastebin.com/xajeQbpD
[15:12] <tomodo> did they delete emblems????
[15:12] <dysoco> emblems ?
[15:13] <tomodo> I was tagging files with icons
[15:13] <erinaceus> vlt: syslog pretty much says the same thing
[15:14] <tomodo> wow this is annoying
[15:14] <tomodo> they removed a ffeature I use...
[15:14] <tomodo> why?
[15:14] <tomodo> I had tagged all the things I'd watched :/
[15:14] <tomodo> now it's gone
[15:14] <vlt> erinaceus: “I/O error, dev sdc”
[15:14] <erinaceus> vlt: Yeah....
[15:15] <vlt> erinaceus: Is ddrescue still running?
[15:16] <erinaceus> vlt:  No, it ran like half a second and then produced this output: pastebin.com/7JmrdypC
[15:18] <vlt> erinaceus: I never tried the logfile option in ddrescue. Can you paste what the terminal looked like?
[15:18] <Jaycee23> Hey
[15:18] <Jaycee23> Anyone know where i can get help for my Lg optimus M rom
[15:18] <bazhang> Jaycee23, hardware?
[15:18] <erinaceus> Pretty much the same: http://pastebin.com/5Jqc2cyp
[15:19] <Jaycee23> I'm having trouble with receiving my MMS
[15:19] <erinaceus> vlt: Looks like he doesnt even start
[15:19] <Jaycee23> i can send pics but just cant receive
[15:19] <bazhang> Jaycee23, thats a phone?
[15:19] <Jaycee23> lmao yea
[15:19] <vlt> erinaceus: Then you should consider sdc dead.
[15:19] <Jaycee23> Am i in the wrong room?
[15:19] <bazhang> Jaycee23, connection to ubuntu support?
[15:20] <erinaceus> vlt: Damnit, all i did was mess around with grub-install
[15:20] <erinaceus> Oh well
[15:20] <dysoco> Jaycee23, yes, you are in the wrong room
[15:20] <vlt> erinaceus: That should be a reason for your hd dying.
[15:20] <robin0800> Jaycee23: try xda forum
[15:21] <vlt> erinaceus: You’re running from live CD now?
[15:21] <Jaycee23> Thanks bro, is that another channel on here?
[15:21] <erinaceus> vlt: Yeah, i was hopeing that the partition table was just overwritten, so i could easily restore it
[15:21] <erinaceus> vlt: Yeah
[15:21] <vlt> erinaceus: `fdisk -ul`?
[15:21] <robin0800> Jaycee23: no its a web site
[15:22] <erinaceus> vlt: Gives no output what so ever
[15:23] <vlt> erinaceus: Huh? /dev/disk/
[15:23] <erinaceus> vlt: Cannot open /dev/sdc
[15:23] <erinaceus> vlt: Is the output ;)
[15:23] <xds__> #ubuntu-cn
[15:24] <vlt> erinaceus: I still can’t imagine that your disk is broken BECAUSE you messed with grub.
[15:25] <erinaceus> vlt: Yeah me neither, im not quite sure what exactly happend, because i did it a couple times before cuz grub kept getting error 17 and it worked fine each time
[15:25] <vlt> erinaceus: O-KAY
[15:26] <vlt> erinaceus: I assume you got error 17 _because_ your disk was dying.
[15:27] <erinaceus> vlt: I guess, but i didnt notice anything else, like unreadble files or slower perfomance. Even Windows was working fine (on the same hdd)
[15:27] <Defusal> err
[15:27] <Defusal> this makes no sense
[15:28] <Defusal> i have done this before on another server and it works, and the commands are copied from a tutorial
[15:28] <vlt> erinaceus: That doesn’t mean anything.
[15:28] <gnuskool> this the server channel as well?
[15:28] <bazhang> Defusal, got an actual question?
[15:28] <Defusal> i have wget'd a .bin file and chmod'd it to executable, but when trying to execute it, it says it doesn't exist
[15:28] <bazhang> gnuskool, #ubuntu-server
[15:28] <gnuskool> thx
[15:28] <erinaceus> vlt: I guess, i will be writing my backup script soon ...
[15:28] <bazhang> Defusal, what package
[15:28] <locsmif> Defusal: run file <bin file> and tell us what that says
[15:29] <Defusal> locsmif, it says its fine
[15:29] <Defusal> locsmif, ./hldsupdatetool.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[15:29] <locsmif> Defusal: you might run strace on it
[15:29] <llutz_> Defusal: and "uname -m"
[15:30] <Ian_Moone> I have a headset. How do I set it as the default audio output?
[15:30] <Defusal> locsmif, and look for what? execve("./hldsupdatetool.bin", ["./hldsupdatetool.bin"], [/* 20 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[15:30] <Defusal> llutz_, x86_64
[15:30] <Defusal> i have run this binary on a x64 ubuntu server before
[15:30] <escott> Defusal, try running ldd on it
[15:30] <locsmif> Defusal: well, things like that
[15:30] <llutz_> Defusal: 23bit libs missing?
[15:31] <llutz_> 32
[15:31] <Defusal> locsmif,  not a dynamic executable
[15:31] <Defusal> llutz_, i didn't know there was any such libs that didn't come with ubuntu...
[15:31] <escott> Defusal, its probably one of the scripts the gunzips the executable. you might try manually gunziping the binary portion
[15:31] <locsmif> Defusal: that is an error I don't understand
[15:32] <locsmif> But at least it's clear what happens *exactly*
[15:32] <Defusal> escott, i'd rather find out why i am getting the error.
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  if you want to run 32bit on 64bit hardware, you may need ia32-libs blah
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> or 32bit on a 64bit system, rather
[15:33] <Defusal> MonkeyDust: thanks :)
[15:34] <locsmif> Defusal: and if it's indeed about 32 vs 64 bit, that error returned by execve is pretty useless, imho
[15:35] <Defusal> locsmif, agreed
[15:35] <Defusal> but that does seem like the most likely cause
[15:35] <locsmif> Yeah
[15:35] <locsmif> I'll go along with that :P
[15:35] <Defusal> my last server was a VPS, so it must have come with that lib installed
[15:35] <Ian_Moone> I got my mic working, but how do I change the audio output device?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Ian_Moone: in sound prefs
[15:36] <Defusal> it works now, thanks everyone :)
[15:36] <Ian_Moone> How? I"ve been in that menu for over 20 minutes, and there is no "apply" button or anything.
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: oneiric and later are dual arch, the OS will just pull in a tonne of 32bit debs to make it go (messy)
[15:36] <Ian_Moone> My headset only shows up as an input device anyway.
[15:37] <velko> Defusal, have you found out why? it's interesting to know
[15:37] <escott> Ian_Moone, most gnome menus are immediate apply unless you press cancel. there is no apply
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  tnx, I learned something new, then :)
[15:37] <Defusal> velko, because ia32-libs was not installed
[15:37] <Ian_Moone> then how do I add it as an output device?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> !info ia32-libs
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> :)
[15:39] <bazhang> ia32-libs-multiarch MonkeyDust
[15:39] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, according to apt-get, it installed from oneiric
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  yeah, just saw it too
[15:40] <Defusal> 75MB download
[15:41] <_vipul> _vipul
[15:43] <Tom_> voice
[15:43] <wubino> Anyone familiar with the AMD 64bit virtualization bugs?
[15:43] <Tom_> Isn't port 80 all that curl and apt-get update need? http://serverfault.com/questions/370721/ufw-iptables-after-setting-default-outgoing-deny-and-port-80-outgoing-allow-c
[15:44] <Onkeltem> I'm using ubuntu server 11.10 / gnome 3. I have no volume control in the tray, and devices list are empty in System prefs. Any ideas?
[15:44] <Onkeltem> sound does work
[15:48] <shankhs> Hi, I am trying to compile xuggler. The compilation is failing because it requires libavformat.so.54 and libavcodec.so.54. Can anybody please tell how can I get these files?
[15:48] <xeviox> argh any ideas how to correctly escape special chars in smtp passwords in nullmailer config???
[15:48] <xeviox> I don't get it to work ..
[15:49] <neuer> join #ubuntu.de
[15:50] <|Long|> hi, is there a cmd which is tell me who is users has root access to the box?
[15:51] <llutz_> |Long|: getent group admin              to find the "sudo-users"
[15:51] <Guest17078> hii.. Can anyone suggest a pdf reader with tabbed pdfs
[15:51] <shankhs> Guest17078: adobe pdf reader has tab support
[15:52] <|Long|> llutz, I can only login from ssh screen, is there a cmd for it?
[15:54] <injureddeer> someone know syslog-ng regexps a bit?
[15:54] <bazhang> injureddeer, in debian?
[15:54] <injureddeer> i try cache "Mar 17 16:51:10 honeypot psad:" this :\
[15:54] <injureddeer> yes
[15:54] <bazhang> #debian injureddeer
[15:55] <injureddeer> no, in ubuntu
[15:55] <injureddeer> this is ubuntu
[15:55] <bazhang> injureddeer, you were asking about debian just a short while ago
[15:55] <injureddeer> i have few systems
[15:56] <bazhang> injureddeer, pastebin sources.list please
[15:57] <sash1> friends anyone can help me with ubuntu server
[15:57] <vlt> !ask | sash1
[15:57] <LetterRip> Hi - how do i disable the 'feature' where everytime i move and resize a window, ubuntu/gnome shortly thereafter moves it to the upper right hand corner fo the window
[15:58] <LetterRip> screen
[15:58] <gnuskool> mint
[15:58] <realubot> itmannen: Hello there old man.
[15:58] <bazhang> gnuskool, which version of ub untu, or did you have mint
[15:59] <AndroidBeing> Does anybody know if there are any desktop background changers that will download new backgrounds for you from the net?
[15:59] <realubot> itmannen: Maybe we shall hold on to the 12.04 in #ubuntu+1 and talk about ordinary Ubuntu problems in a channel like this instead.
[15:59] <injureddeer> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/2hF8Rkc1
[15:59] <gnuskool> bazhang: i got ubuntu, i want to replace my adsl router with ubuntu
[15:59] <gnuskool> dunno how to
[15:59] <sash1> i have problem with ubuntu server, it's on old hp server with one scsi disk and one ide disk, when copying over ftp to scsi everything ok, but when copying to ide first 15sec ok then drop to around 200kb/s transfer rate, then start slowly increase to normal and then again drop (like tcp window droping), thank you
[16:00] <bazhang> injureddeer, dont use private paste
[16:00] <Sach> is it possible to write upside down in libreoffice?
[16:00] <injureddeer> bazhang: what ?_?
[16:00] <|Long|> hi, is there a cmd which is tell me who is users has root access to the box from ssh screen?
[16:00] <bazhang> injureddeer, that requires an account. paste.ubuntu.com
[16:00] <realubot> AndroidBeing: You could use wally to change desktop background from files that another application downloads to a directory.
[16:01] <realubot> Wally is a desktop background switcher.
[16:01] <injureddeer> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/Hd8BhSKd
[16:01] <bazhang> injureddeer, thats precise. #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:01] <injureddeer> ?
[16:02] <bazhang> injureddeer, /join #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[16:04] <najim> hi, can someone help me install vmware tools in ubuntu?
[16:05] <najim> ?
[16:05] <llutz_> |Long|: 1. root-account in ubuntu is disabled, 2. you never should allow root to ssh, use PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only (or no), so you have to use sudo to get root-rights. check " getent group admin " to get the users being able to use sudo
[16:05] <velko> |Long|, no. you may try to look in the sudoers file. but if the root account is activated, everybody who knows the root password can have root access. and you cannot find this out
[16:06] <ubuntuserver> hi
[16:07] <najim> can anyone help me install vmware tools in ubuntu?
[16:07] <JoseeAntonioR> ubuntuserver: Hello!
[16:07] <JoseeAntonioR> !ask | najim
[16:07] <ubuntuserver> can anyone tell me where i can find the driver for my wifi card because im trying to install wifi drivers to my ubuntu server and when i plug my wifi, there no ap
[16:08] <mary_> ciao a tutti
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !wifi| ubuntuserver
[16:08] <mary_> italiano?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !it
[16:08] <ubuntuserver> thank you
[16:12] <riderplus> i have some trouble with mp3blaster. i started it with 'padsp mp3blaster', otherwise it doesn't work, but now i have no mixer...
[16:12] <riderplus> so i can't control the volume
[16:12] <riderplus> damn...
[16:13] <Multbrelch> !it
[16:13] <riderplus> damn it..
[16:14] <riderplus> anyone inspired around here? :)
[16:14] <Robinux> hi, should I install avidemux-gtk or -qt?
[16:15] <LukeNukem> hello
[16:15] <LukeNukem> i donwloaded firefox nightly
[16:15] <LukeNukem> i want to install it, how can i
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> LukeNukem  what's wrong with apt-get?
[16:15] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: If you have kde qt otherwise gtk
[16:15] <Robinux> gnome3 here
[16:16] <Lirusaito> LukeNukem: Is it a .deb?
[16:16] <Robinux> which I'm regretting btw
[16:16] <LukeNukem> MonkeyDust, i downloaded the archive
[16:16] <Robinux> and will install cinnamon GirlyGirl
[16:16] <LukeNukem> its an archive, after extraction it has sh files n tuff
[16:16] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: The gtk to integrate with the desktop
[16:16] <LukeNukem> stuff
[16:16] <Robinux> so I should still install gtk... cuz cinnamon is just the cousine of gnome right
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> LukeNukem  FF is in the repos, what do you want to do?
[16:16] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: yes
[16:16] <Robinux> GirlyGirl, thank you.
[16:16] <LukeNukem> MonkeyDust, i wanna install firefox nightly
[16:16] <xds594> ??
[16:17] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: Both will work, but qt is generally better if you are on kde which btw would be worth trying if you dislike gnome 3
[16:17] <Robinux> GirlyGirl, what will happen if I install cinnamon and kde... while I have gnome
[16:17] <Robinux> 3
[16:18] <LukeNukem> Robinux, who are you?
[16:18] <Robinux> your one and only, dawg! bro
[16:18] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: You can chose between session types on the login screen
[16:18]  * LukeNukem scratches head
[16:18] <LukeNukem> spadeski?
[16:18] <LukeNukem> mehrdad?
[16:18] <LukeNukem> sw0rdfish?
[16:19] <Robinux> will I need to install something special that'll let me choose between the session types?
[16:19] <Robinux> GirlyGirl, ^^?
[16:19] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: But better try a Kubuntu livecd and see if you like it. Although desktop effects for some reason don't work well the first time so turn them on and of in settings
[16:20] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: No, when prompted while installing however chose KDM as display manager
[16:20] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: To install KDE do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[16:20] <Robinux> k
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> or for a minimal kde install plasma-desktop
[16:21] <Robinux> I see.
[16:21] <GirlyGirl> Robinux: But as I said better try a livecd first
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> or a virtual system
[16:22] <GirlyGirl> ActionParsnip: VM's can be slow and not reflect the real experience
[16:22] <LukeNukem> HOW TO EFFING INSTALL FIREFOX NIGHTLY??
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> caps
[16:23] <Robinux> what ta hell is firefox nightly
[16:23] <LukeNukem> ^only the coolest ff evedr
[16:23] <LukeNukem> ever*
[16:23] <GirlyGirl> LukeNukem: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[16:23] <OerHeks> nightly build*
[16:23] <Lirusaito> LukeNukem: Do you have the <firefox-nighty-file>.deb downloaded?
[16:23] <LukeNukem> i downloaded from their website, the archive
[16:23] <Onkeltem> Hi all
[16:23] <LukeNukem> which on extraction gave me a folder under which run mozzila.sh is there
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> LukeNukem  daily/nightly builds tend to be unstable, i used one and it ruined my system
[16:24] <Onkeltem> I'm running ubuntu server x86_64, having 4Gb of RAM, but only 3Gb is seen by ubuntu, any ideas what could be wrong?
[16:24] <xds_> sdf
[16:24] <Lirusaito> what happens when you run ./mozilla.sh in a terminal cd'd to that directory?
[16:24] <imran-uk> hi, i'm running 12.04 beta1 - when the final release is out - can i just perform an "aptitude update/safe-upgrade" to get the latest release? eg. i effectively have a rolling release by running beta1
[16:25] <setkeh> Lirusaito: it will exicute the script ??
[16:25] <dlentz> imran-uk, yes
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> imran-uk  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <zykotic10> !final | imran-uk
[16:25] <setkeh> Onkeltem: try free -g and see if that shows all you ram
[16:25] <wylde> LukeNukem: why would you want to run a nightly build if you can't even install it? Will you be able to fix problems that come up from using it?
[16:25] <Lirusaito> setkeh: Sorry, should have pointed that message at LukeNukem
[16:25] <imran-uk> ubottu & others, fantastic - exactly what i wanted to know, thanks
[16:25] <LL2|JedIRC> So, on my ubuntu vps, I am able to successfully start up a vnc server session via vncserver, and connect to it
[16:26] <LukeNukem> how to cd?
[16:26] <LL2|JedIRC> however, after some time, my vnc bash prompt always suddenly disappears on me
[16:26] <LL2|JedIRC> Any idea why?
[16:26]  * Lirusaito sighs 
[16:27] <Onkeltem> setkeh: omg, it is showing I have 2Gb only!
[16:27] <LukeNukem> GAAHH
[16:27] <LukeNukem> cd: home/marshall/desktop/firefox/: No such file or directory
[16:27] <LukeNukem> the directory is there -_-
[16:27] <Lirusaito> LukeNukem: Just add the GirlyGirl pointed you to
[16:27] <gfc> need
[16:27] <gfc> need
[16:28] <Lirusaito> s/the/the repo/
[16:28] <LukeNukem> Lirusaito, im a complete linux newbie
[16:28] <LukeNukem> idk how to add
[16:28] <LukeNukem> that
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> LukeNukem  newbie shouldnt use nightly builds
[16:28] <orated> How to change label of a partition through command-line?
[16:28] <wylde> LukeNukem: what MonkeyDust said
[16:29] <velko> orated, depends on which filesystem you use on this partition
[16:29] <orated> velko: ntfs
[16:29] <velko> orated, i have no idea about this one
[16:29] <orated> ok
[16:30] <llutz_> orated: ntfslabel
[16:32] <LukeNukem> bash run-mozilla.sh and it says the sh file is not executable
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: capital D for Desktop
[16:32] <Lirusaito> sudo chmod 0777 run-mozilla.sh
[16:32] <Alan_L> anyone here know much about the httpd package and how its different from compiling directly from source?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Lirusaito: surely just:  chmod +x  will do, no need for sudo either as the file is on the users home directory and owned by the user
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> LukeNukem  you're not familiar with Terminal basics, how will you repair your PC after the nightly build ruined it?
[16:33] <LukeNukem> cannot execute
[16:33] <LukeNukem> fuck this shit
[16:33] <FloodBot1> LukeNukem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <Lirusaito> ActionParsnip: Just covering all bases.
[16:36] <Lirusaito> Su um... this:
[16:36] <Lirusaito> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[16:36] <Lirusaito> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages
[16:36] <Lirusaito> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:36] <Lirusaito> What do?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Lirusaito: precise isn't supported here
[16:36] <HelloWorld321> Is the Unity desktop LXDE?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Lirusaito: ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: no, LXDE is a desktop, Unity is a shell
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: you can run Unity in LXDE if you wish
[16:37] <gfc> luPRIVMSG #ubuntuPRIVMSG #ubuntu :emidPRIVMSG #ubuntu :emid_!: jiPRIVMSG #ubuntu :emid_! PRIVMSG #ubuntu :emid_!PRIVMSG #ubuntu :emid_!PRIVMSG #ubuntu :emid_!: just use telnetPRIVMSG #ubuntu :emid_!: just use telnet
[16:38] <ufk> i wanna switch to nginx from apache on my production server. how can i install nginx package without it starting to start it automatically? (i want to change ports first)
[16:39] <gfc> PRIVMSG
[16:39] <HelloWorld321> I've got a default install of Ocelot, and I'm trying to find the proper setup instructions for Synergy.  Does "Synergy auto-start before login in LXDE" sound right?  I'm thinking that fits what you said: it runs in Unity before launching LXDE.
[16:40] <HelloWorld321> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1628070)
[16:40] <compute> i want to no if that operation system anonymous came out with is it good to use
[16:40] <bazhang> compute, its offtopic here
[16:41] <compute> no it say it a form unbutu
[16:42] <bazhang> compute, no, its offtopic.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> compute  OT: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Anonymous-OS-Live-CD-Based-on-Ubuntu-is-Fake-258700.shtml
[16:42] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, please dont
[16:43] <spacebarbarian> anyone here have experience with using flashcache or bcache with ubuntu ?
[16:43] <gfc> linux
[16:44] <Xabster-lap> What's a good resource for drivers when my hardware producer hasn't any drivers for linux? (It's a mouse: Ace ML20 Pure Mini)
[16:44] <compute> thank you for the info  monkeydustis unbuntu good for hacking
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: you can add synergy to your startup apps and it will run as you need
[16:45] <ubuntu> how do i set a password for liveusb?
[16:45] <MadsRC> Does anyone know if there's any security risks if you install ubuntu from the mini.iso instead of the Ubuntu Server? Is there anything that should be disabled or something?
[16:45] <bazhang> compute, what do you mean by hacking
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Xabster-lap: most mice run with the default driver
[16:45] <Titomen> if i have software raid 1 forboot, 1 for swap 5 for system and 5 for home..can i use rsync to image my system?
[16:45] <wylde> compute: any OS can be used for "hacking", if you're using the term as it is properly used and not the glorified media's representation of the term.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> MadsRC: its just as secure, you just insrall the OS from the repos...
[16:46] <Xabster-lap> ActionParsnip, it runs, but the sensitivity is wayyyy too high
[16:46] <vlt> Titomen: Yes, because on your raid somewhere you have file systems ;-)
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Xabster-lap: is there an option in the OS to set it slower?
[16:46] <MadsRC> Thank you ActionParsnip ;)
[16:46] <ubuntu> how do i set a password for my liveusb ubuntu?
[16:46] <Xabster-lap> it's 11.10 and it's as slow as I can drag it
[16:46] <hank__> how do i reset my login password?
[16:47] <vlt> Titomen: You don’t need one raid per file system when you install an LVM layer on top of md.
[16:47] <chrislustic> Tyler guthrie is a n00b, haha
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Xabster-lap: then you may need an xorg.conf to set settings on it
[16:47] <bazhang> chrislustic, that is not welcome here nor appropriate
[16:48] <john_doe_jr> is there news groups out there that help you find a file your looking for?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> hank__: you can boot to root recovery mode and reset any password there
[16:48] <hank__> how do i do that
[16:48] <OerHeks> !password
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> hank__: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, selectr root
[16:49] <Xabster-lap> Alright, ActionParsnip, don't I already have an xorg.cnf? You mean I need to modify it, right?
[16:50] <hank__> changed the password :)
[16:50] <chrislustic> Bazhang,  Lighten up it was a joke, he is my friend
[16:50] <bazhang> chrislustic, this is not the joke channel. and that is NEVER welcome here
[16:51] <chrislustic> I DONT CARE
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Xabster-lap: the default OS doesn't ship with one and usually doesn't need one but some hardware needs it to define how it should work#
[16:52] <compute> monkey dust thinks for the info is unbuntu good for hacking
[16:52] <vlt> compute: Perfect.
[16:53] <Xabster-lap> ActionParsnip, without the xorg.cnf can't I do some command to lower it manually each time?
[16:53] <Xabster-lap> I'd like to see if it actually works
[16:53] <Titomen> vlt: but that is wht i have at present...so how can i pass-image everything into external drive and then restore if i place lvm on top of raid
[16:53] <compute> how can i lean to hack with ubuntu i am a nebe
[16:54] <vlt> Titomen: Maybe you don’t need. Can you paste your current config?
[16:54] <auronandace> compute: define hack
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Xabster-lap: not sure tbh, let me search
[16:54] <vlt> Titomen: `fdisk -ul`, /etc/fstab …
[16:54] <Xabster-lap> great, thanks - I'd like to disable acceleration too while we're at it
[16:54] <compute> pentest hacks
[16:54] <vlt> auronandace: Writing code.
[16:54] <Guest63812> woOoo
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Xabster-lap: http://patrickmylund.com/blog/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[16:55] <ubuntos> hi, I have a problem with Huawei E367 : it is not working on ubuntu 11.04
[16:55] <auronandace> vlt: evidently thats not what he had in mind
[16:55] <vlt> auronandace: hmmm
[16:55] <Guest63812> guess chris is banned :P
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[16:56] <ubuntos> ActionParsnip : Bus 003 Device 005: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[16:57] <compute> how can i make me real good unbutu desk top
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: yes, now use the ID to find guides..
[16:57] <auronandace> compute: define real good
[16:57] <nopf> compute: first replace unity...
[16:57] <auronandace> compute: everyone has different needs
[16:57] <ubuntos> ActionParsnip : how is that ?
[16:57] <orated> How to delete a user like the this creates user - sudo useradd -d /home/username -m username?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: what do you mean?
[16:58] <wylde> compute: I spent a whole afternoon hacking once and wasn't even on my computer..... I built a "cantenna"
[16:58] <llutz_> orated: man deluser
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: the IS is:  12d1:1506    use that to find guides, you will find tonnes
[16:59] <compute> is unity no good and how you get read of it
[16:59] <bazhang> !notunity | compute
[17:00] <ubuntos> ActionParsnip: the problem is that the same model from an other mobile operator worked for me but this one is not working
[17:00] <auronandace> compute: i prefer xfce so i install xubuntu, so i don't get unity to begin with
[17:00] <AlanBell> unity is fine, have a play with it compute
[17:00] <nopf> compute: many real hackers use the commandline, not the desktop
[17:01] <snowballsteve> compute: it is all user preference. I use unity+xmonad
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: is it teh same ID?
[17:01] <tomodo> how do I get labels back in ubuntu?
[17:01] <MadsRC> I just installed and Apache2 service (only apache, not the other LAMP) on my new test server, and I get the "IT WORKS" message from the servers IP. But I'm curious on how to be able to connect to the apache2 server from outside my LAN. Should I forward a specific port?
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> auronandace In what way you"don't get Unity"?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tomodo: labels of what?
[17:01] <tomodo> I like to put emblems on my files
[17:01] <mary_> my keyboard in notebook not found
[17:01] <tomodo> like stars, etc..
[17:01] <compute> i love the command line i just got to lean
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ahh
[17:01] <ubuntos> ActionParsnip: I believe yes !
[17:02] <tomodo> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HmJGrPVe0is/TpLSzBhBNjI/AAAAAAAABGQ/Cz86ZWU-9VQ/s1600/change-background-emblems-ubuntu+%25285%2529.png
[17:02] <tomodo> here's an example
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: i suggest you double check
[17:02] <tomodo> this feature just disappeared!!
[17:02] <auronandace> kamilnadeem: xubuntu comes with xfce desktop, it doesn't have unity, to use unity you would need to install the ubuntu-desktop package
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> tomodo: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:02] <mary_> my notebook name is dell xps 15z
[17:02] <Shojo> compute: what comm?:P
[17:02] <tomodo> oneiric
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> tomodo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64300/how-do-i-tag-files-with-custom-emblems-in-nautilus
[17:02] <Shojo> sounds nice
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> tomodo: http://ubuntuguide.net/add-emblems-to-nautilus-files-folders-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[17:03] <tomodo> hhuh??
[17:03] <compute> commandlines i want to lean
[17:04] <kamilnadeem> auronandace: Yes that you have to. I thought you find some problem in navigating in Unity or using it.
[17:04] <Shojo> compute: how does computer dream ?:)
[17:04] <tomodo> thanks
[17:04] <auronandace> !terminal | compute
[17:04] <ubuntos> ActionParsnip: It is getting me crazy, I am sure it is the same model "Huawei E367", I spent more the 1h searching in google but no luck :(
[17:04] <Enkari> Anyone wanna help me with the appmenu?
[17:04] <orated> llutz_: Thanks. I did - sudo deluser --force username
[17:04] <phpN00b> how do I set gnome to always display .php files instead of asking me every time I double click on a .php file?
[17:05] <orated> llutz_: but it didn't delete it
[17:05] <Enkari> I recently installed KDE and decided to remove it as it looked weird, and now in gnome there is an appmenu installed behind the top bar
[17:05] <Enkari> I don't know how to remove it :(
[17:05] <bazhang> Enkari, removed kde4 how
[17:06] <Enkari> Entered like a LOT of commands into terminal
[17:06] <Enkari> sudo apt-get remove .... and then like there was so much more
[17:06] <bazhang> Enkari, what were the commands, from where
[17:06] <Enkari> here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[17:07] <alex-> Anyone noticed this?: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/
[17:07] <Enkari> I entered the commands in 'Remove Kubuntu'
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> ubuntos  maybe you have to install usb-modeswitch
[17:07] <alex-> It works!
[17:07] <bazhang> Enkari, so you dont want the global appmenu?
[17:07] <Xabster-lap> How do I make my thumb-button on my mouse work as a "back" key in Chrome and Firefox like they do on windows?
[17:07] <Enkari> Well, before installing KDE, I had the global appmenu removed since I used a transparent gnome theme
[17:07] <Enkari> but I've tried to remove it again and even reinstall appmenu, but it makes no difference
[17:07] <compute> i go to the commandline but i got to remember the commands i want to lean to hack if i can make people computers safe i can make a lot of money
[17:08] <Enkari> I'm thinking that it's maybe a KDE appmenu?
[17:08] <bazhang> Enkari, if you removed all the kde4 stuff thats doubtful
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: what is printed no the prett casing is irrelevant, you need to look at the USB ID, if it is different then it will act differently
[17:08] <auronandace> compute: perhaps avoiding the phrase "learn to hack" would be a good start
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuntos: this may help with the one you gave the ID of: http://web52.017.netroom.de/draisberghof_de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=4826&sid=c756f060c669dc566e72a74535af95a9
[17:09] <bazhang> compute, any ubuntu support questions?
[17:09] <ubuntos> MonkeyDust: usb-modeswitch is installed
[17:09] <Enkari> Is there anything you could suggest bazhang? Like is there a way to reset Ubuntu to the default?
[17:09] <FAT_TONI> phpN00b: right-click on .php-file -> open with -> select gedit (for example)
[17:09] <auronandace> compute: if you wish to understand the workings of bash there are plenty of guides online
[17:09] <danny> is there a plugin for rhythmbox or another media player were i can command it with my voice or an apllication that lets me use my computer by jsut saying commands for example i would like to be able to be playing xbox and be listening to music on my computer and just say next song or pause
[17:10] <bazhang> Enkari, try without unity, ie /msg ubottu notunity for the way to go about this
[17:10] <phpN00b> FAT_TONI, it will still ask to display or run it
[17:10] <auronandace> compute: if you wish to learn to write code there are plenty of guides for various languages
[17:10] <Enkari> Well I'm not using Unity right now
[17:10] <bazhang> !find festival
[17:10] <Enkari> I'm on GNOME 3 I believe
[17:10] <bazhang> !info festival
[17:11] <FAT_TONI> phpN00b, what access-rights do you have set for your .php-file?
[17:12] <phpN00b> FAT_TONI, 755
[17:12] <Indira> If I need support, do I just ask the question here?
[17:12] <auronandace> Indira: indeed
[17:13] <ubuntos> ActionParsnip: I think I am having more luck with that link, I will be back soon thx :)
[17:13] <FAT_TONI> phpN00b: then: chmod 644 file.php
[17:13] <compute> i do a lot of reading i am just getting a understanding can you tell any good books to read on hacking
[17:14] <Indira> Ok I need help installing Ubuntu 11.10 on my HP computer, I keep getting the black-screen during the first-time boot instillation
[17:14] <Enkari> Is it a liveusb?
[17:15] <auronandace> compute: you keep using the word hack or hacking, no offence but it makes you sound like a teenager, you need to be more specific
[17:15] <Indira> um, yes but i can also do it straigt from the computer, either way same result
[17:15] <bazhang> compute, I dont see how this relates to ubuntu
[17:15] <antihc3> does anyone know if it is possible to mirror/tap traffic on en0, i want to run snort in a virtual box to be able to play with signatures.  the VM setting promiscuous mode only works for broadcast traffic
[17:16] <CellTech> Best video converter?
[17:16] <vlt> !best | CellTech
[17:16] <bazhang> CellTech, for what
[17:16] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Indira
[17:16] <compute> ok i understand well leaning about the computer
[17:16] <bazhang> !offtopic | compute
[17:16] <CellTech> Convert my videocamera format to other formats. It records in mp4
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> CellTech: mencoder and ffmpeg are fantastic :)
[17:17] <bazhang> compute /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat this is ubuntu support only
[17:17] <CellTech> Awesome thank you
[17:17] <bazhang> CellTech, handbrake
[17:17] <auronandace> compute: linux workings in general? perhaps ask in ##linux (you'll need a registered nick)
[17:17] <fbdystang> Hi, I get this error message when trying to run update manager: please advise: http://pastebin.com/6WX3gWmS
[17:17] <Nine_9> how do you know the available commands for ubottu bot?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> CellTech: you'll find example commands around on how to use them, they can be very complex creatures
[17:18] <Indira> @ubottu already tried it, got same black screen; @auronandace is that the same thing ubottu said?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> !brain | Nine_9
[17:18] <bazhang> !factoids | Nine_9
[17:18] <Nine_9> thank you! :)
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Indira: what video chip do you use?
[17:19] <auronandace> Indira: i told ubottu to tell you, thats why you see a ! in front of what i wrote (ubottu is the bot)
[17:19] <vlt> Hello. When I log in my audio volume is set to 100%. My neighbours already hate me (and the Ubuntu jingle). How to avoid this?
[17:19] <dysoco> fbdystang, try to Upgrade via apt-get: "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:19] <Indira> ATI RADEON Xpress 200 Series, not the newest, but its what i got
[17:19] <fbdystang> dysoco, ok let me try that
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Indira: try:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[17:20] <compute> i got to use the command line in unbutu i got to lean them
[17:20] <auronandace> compute: you've been told where to start
[17:20] <bazhang> compute, please stop chatting here
[17:20] <auronandace> !terminal | compute
[17:21] <dlentz> compute, are you a human?
[17:21] <Indira> @ActionParsnip, before or after "quiet splash"?
[17:21] <compute> how do i get to where i can chat at
[17:22] <auronandace> compute: /join #nameofchannel
[17:22] <bazhang> compute, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:22] <dysoco> or just /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:23] <orated> Hello! I created a backup username for fixing problems. How can I hide it at login via command line instead of deleting it?
[17:23] <fbdystang> dysoco, this is the error i get with apt-get: http://pastebin.com/qKguTcX0
[17:23] <Indira> ActionParsnip: before or after "quiet splash"?
[17:24] <Bodsda> Hi - everytime I boot into ubuntu, I have to go into alsamixer and move the master slider down 2 notches out of the red section, otherwise I get distorted, fuzzy sound output. Is there anyway to make this change permenant?
[17:24] <fbdystang> I also have had a little red error icon in the notification bar the last couple of days
[17:24] <dlentz> Indira, after splash (though before would work too)
[17:24] <dysoco> fbdystang, "man 5 apt.conf" check there
[17:25] <dysoco> fbdystang, you must increase the value of APT::Cache-Limit, not sure how to do that, but "man 5 apt.conf" should tell you
[17:25] <fbdystang> dysoco, ok let poke around in there and see what I can find
[17:25] <black-rider> hello everybody
[17:25] <dysoco> fbdystang, It's weird, never seen that error before
[17:26] <Indira> and what should happen after the Ubuntu 11.10 4 dots load, something cool, or another black screen?
[17:26] <dysoco> but you should try searching in Google for that error also "increase value of APT::Cache-Limit" in Google
[17:26] <Index> Hello, i have problem. Every time im trying to install ubuntu i got [Errno 5] Input/output error. What should i do?
[17:26] <orated> Hello! I created a backup username for fixing problems. How can I hide it at login via command line instead of deleting it? .. I mean to ask how can I lock it?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Indira: instead of
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Indira: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Index: if you use a CD, did yuo burn it as slowly as possible?
[17:27] <fbdystang> dysoco, i tried the error, but good idea on searching for increasing the value. Thanks
[17:27] <Index> im trying it too, but on usb i got the same error
[17:27] <Bodsda> orated: have a look at "usermod --help"   -- I think you need the -L switch
[17:27] <dysoco> Index, you can try with the "Alternate" CD of Ubuntu
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Index: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[17:28] <dlentz> fbdystang, have you tried sudo apt-get clean
[17:28] <TorbenBeta> How can I quit a non responding program inside my CLI? I have 'angband' (game) running on tty6(non graphical) and angband takes no commands anymore. Ideas?
[17:28] <Index> ActionParsnip how to do it?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Index
[17:28] <Indira> ActionParsni:I don't know if it had, does that make a difference
[17:28] <fbdystang> dlentz, nope I'll try that right now
[17:29] <dati> hey guys, can anyone help me with configuring my linux installation as an access point?
[17:29] <fbdystang> dlentz, I tried it and still get same error
[17:29] <auronandace> TorbenBeta: ctrl-c
[17:29] <TorbenBeta> Thank you.
[17:29] <TorbenBeta> Sir
[17:29] <orated> Bodsda: I saw that, I actually want to able to ssh to it but it should not show in login screen.. so lock can help? -L says it will disable password
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Indira: had what?
[17:30] <ablabla> hi guys, i'm currently running ubuntu 10.04, and trying to move movies into vlc app inside my iphone. I tried several ways from google including ubuntu sources, but none seem to worked. Anyone got any experience with it?
[17:30] <arooni-mobile> according to http://www.php2s.com/linux/installing-lamp-linux-apache-mysql-php-on-ubuntu-11-10.html ; there should be /etc/apache2/available-apps on ubuntu 11.10; but i have the apache2 package installed and that directory isnt there
[17:30] <dlentz> fbdystang, then you might want to try: http://www.ithowto.ro/2008/10/howto-increase-apt-gets-cache-limit/
[17:30] <auronandace> TorbenBeta: as a side note, have you tried dungeon crawl stone soup? great rogue-like
[17:31] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find audio effects that I can apply to the master output channel_
[17:31] <vlt> ?
[17:31] <arooni-mobile> nevermind; it wasnt installed correctly
[17:31] <Indira> ActionParsnip: "did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?" if I had done that
[17:31] <TorbenBeta> auronandace, yes I did but in graphical mode only.
[17:32] <fbdystang> dlentz, dysoco, I did this and it now works, thanks for your help: http://aziest.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/how-to-increase-your-apt-cache-limit/
[17:32] <dysoco> no problem
[17:32] <Indira> I'm trying radeon.nomodeset=1 right now, what should happen in contrast to before?
[17:33] <ablabla> .. anyone?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Indira: then you have no real way of knowing if the ISO is good
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Indira: you should get a display
[17:35] <dbm> Guys u like unity?
[17:35] <Indira> "a display"? other than the hardware screen? Please explain
[17:35] <vlt> !ot | dbm
[17:35] <auronandace> dbm: no polls please
[17:35] <dbm> Alright, didin't know. Thanks for letting me know in future. :)
[17:36] <auronandace> dbm: its great we have a choice to use what we like, in short: use what suits you best
[17:36] <dbm> auronandace: Alright thanks for answering 'an offtopic. ;)
[17:36] <ablabla> .. guyss? someone?
[17:37] <itmannen1> Hi all. How do I copy all from a CD with the help of terminal ?
[17:37] <vlt> itmannen1: Bits or files?
[17:37] <itmannen1> Files
[17:38] <auronandace> !iso | itmannen
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> itmannen1: the CD will mount to /media/cdrom0 most likely, you can copy the files from that mount point and beyond
[17:38] <vlt> itmannen1: Either `cp -ar` or I’d recommend using rsync.
[17:38] <dati> hey guys, can anyone help me with configuring my linux installation as an access point?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> !ics | dati
[17:38] <Bodsda> orated: not sure if anyone else answered you, but see if tthis old thread is still relevant - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344414
[17:39] <dati> taking a look at it
[17:39] <itmannen1> Ok. Thanks
[17:39] <Bodsda> Hi - everytime I boot into ubuntu, I have to go into alsamixer and move the master slider down 2 notches out of the red section, otherwise I get distorted, fuzzy sound output. Is there anyway to make this change permenant?
[17:39] <dati> thanks for responding guys
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Bodsda: you can use the amixer command to control the volume at command line, you can make a small startup app to set the volume
[17:40] <Indira> ActionParsnip: "a display"? other than the hardware screen? Please explain
[17:40] <Bodsda> ActionParsnip: cheers, I'll take a look
[17:41] <Index> so i do md5 test on that iso and it says at thats different, what with that?
[17:41] <Index> it not helps me...
[17:41] <bazhang> Index, its corrupted then redownload it
[17:41] <Index> i redownloaded it 20 times!
[17:41] <bazhang> Index, get the torrent
[17:42] <sh^t> hey everyone. anyone familiar with drdb in ubuntu? I have a single NAS right now that I want to have the ability to be replicated down the road without having to move my data around.. is it possible to setup drdb without it replicating until that time, or do I have to do it all at once starting fresh?
[17:42] <Index> still error
[17:42] <hellyeah> hey
[17:42] <titi> hey
[17:42] <Index> trying torrent and all mirrors
[17:42] <Index> still cant install it
[17:42] <hellyeah> in order to get old gnome-panel
[17:42] <Index> only errno 5 ;/
[17:42] <bazhang> Index, checked against which hash
[17:42] <hellyeah> which package do i need to install
[17:42] <orated> Bodsda: Thanks
[17:42] <bazhang> !notunity | hellyeah
[17:42] <auronandace> !gnome2 | hellyeah
[17:42] <Bodsda> orated: did you get it working?
[17:43] <diverdude> how do i see all available packages in the repo named something with "gpho" ?
[17:43] <Index> bazhang what? i dont understand, sorry im not english
[17:43] <hellyeah> because i like the panel when i need to some smalltem monitor force quit program like sys
[17:43] <Bodsda> diverdude: apt-cache search gpho
[17:43] <bazhang> hellyeah, there is none, thats the closest
[17:43] <bazhang> !hashes | Index
[17:43] <bazhang> Index, read that link, there are the hashes to md5 your iso with
[17:44] <FAT_TONI> hellyeah: why don't use xfce?
[17:44] <Index> yep and it says at thats different
[17:44] <Index> :<
[17:44] <orated> Bodsda: Changing UID < 1000 worked
[17:44] <Bodsda> orated: awesome :)
[17:44] <hellyeah> xfce
[17:44] <hellyeah> is there a compiz on xfce
[17:44] <orated> Bodsda: Thanks
[17:44] <Index> im really green with that all ubuntu and hashes...
[17:44] <hellyeah> i like gnome actually
[17:45] <Shinobi_> Is there some way to organize large amounts of media? Anyone know of a good util?
[17:45] <hellyeah> i just want old panel
[17:45] <auronandace> hellyeah: you can use compiz on xfce if you want
[17:45] <diverdude> Bodsda: aha ok..thx....and how can i see the version number in a package not yet installed?
[17:45] <FAT_TONI> gnome2's dead ( or will be soon)
[17:45] <Index> just trying to install it like 30 times and nothing
[17:45] <Bodsda> diverdude: apt-cache show <packagename>
[17:45] <hellyeah> http://dpaste.com/717943/ btw
[17:46] <hellyeah> okey but
[17:46] <Index> trying 10.10, 11.10, 12.04 and all give the same error
[17:46] <hellyeah> i need use thos small programs is it possible
[17:46] <Index> what to do?
[17:46] <hellyeah> like system monitor force quit brightness
[17:48] <gulzar> for eye candy we have compiz, conky, cairodock/awn, covergloobus. What else is there? ( i Just first time installed covergloobus and it is not working with rythmbox)
[17:48] <got2get> hey ppl
[17:49] <Bodsda> gulzar: depends what you mean by 'eye candy' - compiz is pretty comprehensive for special effects. I personally like AWN (Avant Window Navigator) instead of cairo
[17:49] <gulzar> got2get: Hi
[17:49] <cheese4stake> i need help
[17:49] <Index> So anyone can help me? I have Errno 5! input output error
[17:49] <Bodsda> Index: when do you get the error?
[17:49] <Index> when im trying to install it
[17:49] <gulzar> Bodsda:  I want to make my desktop look stunning.  I like awn-lucido but it is not compiling..
[17:50] <Index> install ubuntu
[17:50] <hellyeah> hey
[17:50] <Bodsda> Index: during the installer? How far through does it get?
[17:50] <hellyeah> in the terminal i wrote ccsm nothing happened why is that
[17:50] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find audio effects that I can apply to the master output channel?
[17:50] <hellyeah> i didnt see any gui
[17:50] <Index> umm nearly end
[17:50] <Index> and boom error
[17:50]  * kn0rki is now away: Offline
[17:51] <Index> im trying to redownload it 30 times, trying to install on dvd slow/fast / usb
[17:51] <Index> still error
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Index: is the ram healthy? There is a memtest on the CD
[17:51] <superdave321> I need to create a bit-by-bit img of a hard drive to store elsewhere. How do I go about that?
[17:51] <Index> yep i do memtest
[17:51] <Index> and its all ok
[17:51] <Index> no problems with ram
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Index: tried the alternate installer?
[17:52] <Index> yes
[17:52] <Bodsda> gulzar: The classics are obviously the cube, the raindrops, the fire writing. Then using docks like AWN or Cairo, then having a tricked out conky. If that doesnt stun people, then use irssi for IRC and Lynx for browsing as well as mc for a file browser
[17:52] <Index> but nothing
[17:52] <hellyeah> hey
[17:52] <cheese4stake> with running tvtime ....see this question number 190961
[17:52] <hellyeah> http://dpaste.com/717946/
[17:52] <hellyeah> what is this problem
[17:52] <Index> there is no logic in it
[17:53] <Bodsda> Index: from what I saw earlier, your md5's aren't matching?
[17:53] <WaY> hello
[17:53] <Index> Bodsda: yes :<
[17:53] <WaY> what is the best torrent client for ubuntu? I'm using transmission but it freezes sometimes
[17:53] <gulzar> Bodsda: ya nice.. Thank You
[17:54] <mosdef100200> Hi there has anyone got there iphone with ios5 working with ubuntu 10.10?
[17:54] <mosdef100200> their*
[17:55] <Bodsda> Index: start with the obvious. Do a straight http download, check file size is correct, then check md5. Do the same with a torrent. Do these fresh, remove all traces of your previous attempts so that nothing could be getting in the way. If that still fails, try the dvd or alternate versions.
[17:55] <superdave321> WaY: BestBot says that deluge-torrent is the best torrent (based on user vote)
[17:55] <Meteorskies> hi there
[17:55] <cheese4stake> help me with https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/190961
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Index: tried the mini iso?
[17:55] <Index> ActionParsnip what is it?!
[17:55] <WaY> superdave321 I have tried deluge but is not as speedy as transmission
[17:55] <WaY> it never gets transmission speed up in torrents
[17:55] <itmannen1> WaY:  Rtorrent is the best.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> mosdef100200: Maverick is EOL next month, I'd think about upgrading. The newer version may make it work easier
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> !mini | Index
[17:56] <WaY> thanks itmannen1, I'm going to try it
[17:56] <mosdef100200> what does eol mean sorry?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> !eol | mosdef100200
[17:56] <mosdef100200> Oh i see
[17:57] <mosdef100200> will it be very risky to keep with 10.10?
[17:57] <cheese4stake> hi ActionParsnip HELP ME WITH https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/190961
[17:57] <superdave321> WaY: okay, I was just giving a start. I'm cool with transmission for now, so I'm not really concerned with getting another one :P
[17:57] <mosdef100200> Hate 11.10
[17:57] <Meteorskies> I'd like some help please, I'm trying to set up multiple os bootable on a usb stick (ubuntu, bactrack, seven), but none appear at boot (unetbootin menu)
[17:57] <WaY> ok, thanks anyway superdave321
[17:57] <Bodsda> mosdef100200: not really, you'll just be at risk to newly found vulnerabilities
[17:57] <mosdef100200> Oh see
[17:57] <cheese4stake> what are your system specs
[17:57] <auronandace> mosdef100200: you don't have to use unity if you don't want to, but you can't keep gnome2 (i use xfce)
[17:58] <mosdef100200> Really?
[17:58] <mosdef100200> In 11.10
[17:58] <auronandace> mosdef100200: yes really
[17:58] <Bodsda> Meteorskies: you'll need to ensure you have the bootloader installed on the usb, then during boot, select usb as first boot device.
[17:58] <mosdef100200> Oh I see so i can stil have same kind of layout as 10.10?
[17:58] <MrSpock> yo everyone !
[17:58] <Bodsda> mosdef100200: xfce is similar ish
[17:58] <auronandace> mosdef100200: if you are using gnome2 then no
[17:58] <mosdef100200> Unity i kept loosing open folders??
[17:59] <Meteorskies> Bodsda: how do I install it, and on which partition (or on the MBR)?
[17:59] <MrSpock> can i create a new server dedicated to a star trek fan topic on Xchat ?
[17:59] <mosdef100200> Is there an option in 11.10 to dislplay like 10.10?
[17:59] <auronandace> MrSpock: ask in #freenode
[17:59] <mosdef100200> display*
[18:00] <auronandace> mosdef100200: gnome2 is not available in 11.10, xfce is similar
[18:00] <mosdef100200> Oh i see
[18:00] <mosdef100200> Well will have to think about upgrading then i guess thanks for the ideas!
[18:00] <MrSpock> aurorandace : ok thx !
[18:01] <wylde> mosdef100200: with a l ittle tweaking I've found you can get xfce looking/behaving a lot like gnome2
[18:01] <mosdef100200> sounds good
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> mosdef100200: there is a way you can hack at the OS to make it look like Gnome2, using xfce is by far the easiest
[18:02] <Bodsda> Meteorskies: during a normal install, there always used to be an advanced option where you could specify which device got the boot loader. You can also use grub to reinstall the boot loader to any device.
[18:02] <MrSpock> aurorandace : the freenode server doesn't work
[18:02] <mosdef100200> So in general is 11.10 miles better? I mean I just could not get to grips with all the new interface love ubuntu as a platform!
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Meteorskies: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[18:03] <auronandace> MrSpock: you are on freenode now
[18:03] <wylde> MrSpock: you're on the freenode server
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mosdef100200: yes, but only ONE of the officially supported flavours uses Unity. So you don't have to use it
[18:03] <Bodsda> MrSpock: /j #freenode
[18:03] <mosdef100200> Im with you!
[18:03] <mosdef100200> I think...
[18:03] <MrSpock> no, ubuntu servers no ?
[18:03] <auronandace> !xubuntu | mosdef100200
[18:03] <herminio> hola
[18:03] <wylde> MrSpock: you mean channel /join #freenode
[18:03] <mosdef100200> might have to run in it a vb get to grips
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> mosdef100200: kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu do not have unity installed by default. ONLY ubuntu has it by default
[18:04] <mosdef100200> Oh i see.....
[18:04] <wylde> mosdef100200: Xubuntu uses xfce by default
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> mosdef100200: xubuntu also looks and feels like gnome2
[18:05] <mosdef100200> So the other ones you mentioned kubuntu and lubuntu are there very similiar to ubuntu with terminal commands, wine etc
[18:05] <MrSpock> i advise Linux Mint, better than ubuntu, xubuntu and so on
[18:05] <mosdef100200> Nice...
[18:05] <bazhang> MrSpock, thats not supported here
[18:05] <wylde> mosdef100200: they're all the same except the packaging really
[18:05] <MrSpock> or Slitaz, Bodhi Linux...
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> MrSpock: full of proprietary muck and a tiny community. Sounds great
[18:05] <MrSpock> okay ^^
[18:05] <wylde> packaging mean appearance
[18:05] <mosdef100200> Thanks for all the tips!
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> MrSpock  "better" is a matter of taste
[18:05] <bazhang> MrSpock, not supported and offtopic
[18:06] <MrSpock> okay lol sorry i'm noob ir
[18:06] <diverdude> I have inserted a CD, how do i view its contents in terminal?
[18:06] <auronandace> mosdef100200: they all use the same repos so the software works across them all, they just come with different desktops installed as default
[18:06] <MrSpock> freemason : cool, i'll be on soon =)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: change the directory to the mount point of the cd
[18:07] <MrSpock> some have test to ubuntu beta release ?
[18:07] <freemason> hey
[18:07] <auronandace> !12.04 | MrSpock
[18:07] <freemason> everyone
[18:07] <bazhang> MrSpock, in #ubuntu+1
[18:07] <kw01f> Can somebody explain me the difference between apt-get, aptitude and dpkg to install deb packages or point me to a site explaining the differences, please?
[18:07] <MrSpock> hi freemason...
[18:07] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: but /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0 are just empty
[18:08] <kw01f> and hi all by the way
[18:08] <MrSpock> and you speak only english ir ? no french people ?
[18:08] <bazhang> MrSpock, #ubuntu-fr for french
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: run:  mount   to see where it's mounted
[18:09] <MrSpock> how i connect the #ubuntu-fr server ?
[18:09] <bazhang> MrSpock, /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> MrSpock: its a channel, not a server
[18:10] <MrSpock> bazhang : thx, it's a command line too ir, so geek
[18:10] <MrSpock> ;)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> MrSpock: depends on client really
[18:12] <MrSpock> that's to say actionparsnip ?
[18:12] <GEEGEEGEE> m/sg nickserv identify cat_fappa321
[18:13] <auronandace> GEEGEEGEE: you really should do that outside a channel
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> MrSpock: i use pidgin, its not a cli irc client....
[18:13] <wylde> GEEGEEGEE: it's best not to enter those commands while having a channel window focused
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> GEEGEEGEE: time for a password reset
[18:13] <parapan> hello fellows ....how can I read metadata from mts files ???
[18:14] <MrSpock> ha yeah i see on pidgin 10 min ago i can connect an irc server
[18:14] <MrSpock> i'm on xchat now...
[18:14] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[18:15] <daw> Hey Doc
[18:16] <itmannen1> Hm. I wounder how I scroll up in irssi
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> itmannen1: pgup
[18:16] <itmannen1> ActionParsnip:  Aha. Thanks
[18:17] <user1> Hi
[18:18] <Dynamit> yay i Have MeeGo as Second OS on my phone but it need to be Develop more, is slow as *** (sure I'm using micro-sd but still it should not be that slow)and is many problem with the OS
[18:18] <user1> How to change from /bin/bash to /bin/sh  in ubuntu 11.10
[18:18] <parapan> hello fellows ....how can I read metadata from mts files ???
[18:18] <user1> pls answer me
[18:18] <TorbenBeta> user1, cd /bin/sh
[18:19] <MrSpock> userl : you must learn commands line code (ls, cd, pwd, ASO)
[18:19] <bazhang> Dynamit, connection to ubuntu support?
[18:19] <trism> user1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash; not really necessary though, if you want bash, just specify bash in the #! section
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> user1: /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash
[18:19] <user1> TorbenBeta, we want work with bourne shell
[18:20] <bastidrazor> user1: you could type "dash"
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> user1: then that is bsh
[18:20] <user1> will try
[18:20] <Dynamit> bazhang o man sorry i have to much in my head forget some time's the rules for all channels i'm in.
[18:20] <northernen> Hello. I try to add VirtualBox to my Unity sidebar. It works, but it shows up without an icon. How do I resolve this? The icon specified in the .desktop file under /usr/share/applications/virtualbox.desktop should be valid.
[18:21] <Dynamit> my fallback that is based on Linux any how. Naaw this will note happen again
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> northernen: you can check / change it yourself
[18:21] <kw01f> Again my question: Can somebody explain me the difference between apt-get, aptitude and dpkg to install deb packages or point me to a site explaining the differences, please?
[18:21] <northernen> ActionParsnip, check/change what myself?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> kw01f: dpkg does the installing, apt-get will install and uninstall packages. aptitude is a bit more feature rich and has searching and so forth
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> northernen: the .desktop file, you can check the icon referenced
[18:22] <kw01f> ActionParsnip: but apt-get can search as well? I mean: sudo apt-cache search foobar
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> kw01f  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[18:23] <northernen> kw01f, apt-get deals with repositories. dpkg with local packages.
[18:23] <wylde> you don't need sudo to use apt-cache btw
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> kw01f: no, you use apt-cache for that
[18:23] <kw01f> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:23] <kw01f> ActionParsnip: ok, so apt-get differs from apt-cache..
[18:23] <trism> kw01f: you don't need sudo on the apt-cache search
[18:23] <user1> Parsnip, it is not working
[18:23] <northernen> ActionParsnip, I've done that. Icon=virtualbox, and I find that in /usr/share/icons.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> kw01f: as wylde says, you don't need sudo for apt-cache as you are only reading the database, not changing it
[18:24] <DoctorPepper> can anyone please help me , i am having troubles installing mono-devel and  mono-xbuild  and i get the following error :
[18:24] <DoctorPepper> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mono-devel_2.10.5-1_all.deb (--unpack):   unable to open '/usr/lib/mono/2.0/al.exe.dpkg-new': No such file or directory
[18:24] <user1> that is the bean shell
[18:24] <kw01f> ActionParsnip: understood
[18:24] <anonymous_> Hello
[18:24] <CFHowlett> anonymous_   greetings
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> DoctorPepper: try touching that file
[18:24] <northernen> kw01f, aptitude = apt-get + apt-cache.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> northernen: kw01f + curses gui
[18:24] <dsfsd> !ops
[18:25] <wylde> -_-
[18:25] <pangolin> dsfsd, ?
[18:25] <dsfsd> There's a serious problem with Ubuntu... UNITY is pushing real users that have real work to do away from the distribution!
[18:25] <dsfsd> This is a P1 issue
[18:25] <bazhang> ...
[18:25] <bildramer> lol
[18:25] <pangolin> dsfsd, That is hardly a channel emergency
[18:25] <northernen> ActionParsnip, pardon?
[18:25] <anonymous_> Im a newbie
[18:25] <anonymous_> on hack
[18:26] <CFHowlett> anonymous_   we don't hack here.  sorry.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> northernen: it has an interactive mode in a pretty curses gui, apt-get doesn't have taht afik
[18:26] <user1> How to set my environment is a bsh
[18:27] <user1> pls help me on this
[18:27] <northernen> ActionParsnip, ah ye you're right, but it takes the same arguments as both apt-get and apt-cache I thought.
[18:27] <matanya> ActionParsnip: sorry had flacky connection on friday
[18:27] <matanya> can you please help me now?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> matanya: how what?
[18:27] <anonymous_> Im czech7
[18:27] <matanya> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/888065/
[18:27] <wylde> Then there's tasksel, which is great for preset usage based setups. eg. LAMP server
[18:27] <CFHowlett> !ck|anonymous_
[18:28] <matanya> something with slow reading the FS
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> !cz
[18:28] <bazhang> !cz | anonymous_
[18:28] <anonymous_> ubottu tz jsi cech<
[18:29] <got2get> can i just chill here without talkin`?
[18:29] <bazhang> anonymous_, /join #ubuntu-cz
[18:29] <bazhang> got2get, sure
[18:29] <northernen> ActionParsnip, any further ideas on the sidebar icon?
[18:29] <CFHowlett> got2get   yes or go to #ubuntu-offtopic for general chitchat
[18:29] <bazhang> or both
[18:29] <MrSpock> anonymous : how can you call yourself Anonymous while your say you are a noobie Lol ?
[18:30] <wylde> or idle and log chat for grep'ing later >.>
[18:30] <MrSpock> lol ^^
[18:30] <got2get> cool
[18:30] <auronandace> !lol | MrSpock
[18:31] <JennyBlueBird> Hi guys, is there some easy way to stop a specific package from automatically updating ? I.e I know my present wine version works with my windows apps and I don't want to break it.
[18:31] <MrSpock> ubottu : ok sire !
[18:31] <bazhang> !pinning | JennyBlueBird
[18:31] <JennyBlueBird> bazhang, urk, i was afraid of that :P
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> northernen: grab your own and set it in the desktop file, specify it absolutely and it should work.
[18:31] <bazhang> MrSpock, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[18:31] <sh^t> hey everyone. anyone familiar with drdb in ubuntu? I have a single NAS right now that I want to have the ability to be replicated down the road without having to move my data around.. is it possible to setup drdb without it replicating until that time, or do I have to do it all at once starting fresh?
[18:32]  * JennyBlueBird was hoping for a tiny checkbox or something :)
[18:32] <MrSpock> but wtf, what i say wrong ?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> MrSpock: read the channel text from when you entered, its quite clear
[18:32] <bazhang> MrSpock, this is ubuntu support only. not the chit chat channel
[18:33] <Ghosts> hello
[18:33] <MrSpock> ok, bye!
[18:33] <CFHowlett> Ghosts   greetings
[18:33] <Demaier> i installed "adobe flash plugin""Ubufox extention for firefox"  but i can still not use flash files with firefox and the ubufox entention does not appear under extentions if i check about:addons, how can i fix this?
[18:33] <MrSpock> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:33] <Ghosts> im czech please czech server<
[18:33] <williammanda> can someone tell me what port is used for gnome xchat and verify that it is tcp?
[18:33] <CFHowlett> !cz|ghosts
[18:33] <bazhang> Ghosts, #ubuntu-cz as we told you earlier
[18:33] <MrSpock> you channel doesn't exist
[18:33] <pangolin> Ghosts, /join #ubuntu-cz
[18:34] <Demaier> i installed "adobe flash plugin""Ubufox extention for firefox"  but i can still not use flash files with firefox and the ubufox entention does not appear under extentions if i check about:addons, how can i fix this?
[18:34] <Ghosts> ja nevim jak se tam dostat
[18:34] <MrSpock> where can i found the list on channel ?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Demaier  i had the same issue, it turned out that Gnash was installed and active -- problem solved by deleting Gnash
[18:35] <MrSpock> where can i found the list of all channels ?
[18:36] <bazhang> MrSpock, we just told you
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> MrSpock: I told you already, why ask for something if you won't read the reply
[18:36] <starter> what is u-boot?
[18:36] <bazhang> MrSpock, /join #freenode for this
[18:36] <Demaier> i installed "adobe flash plugin""Ubufox extention for firefox"  but i can still not use flash files with firefox and the ubufox entention does not appear under extentions if i check about:addons, how can i fix this?
[18:37] <bazhang> starter unetbootin?
[18:37] <MrSpock> sorry, i'm a draw in english
[18:37] <zanaga> Is there a known problem with flickering videos in 12.04? I've been seeing it with chrome, but I doubt it's caused by chrome
[18:37] <chosig> Demaier: Did you restart FF?
[18:37] <Demaier> yes
[18:37] <Demaier> i  tried installing both kubuntu and ubuntu one and i dont have gnash
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> starter: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/U-Boot
[18:37] <bazhang> zanaga, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 please
[18:37] <starter> bazhang: u-boot loader, I see it everywhere but I could not see any good explanation
[18:37] <Demaier> i tried downgrading it to older versions also chosig
[18:37] <zanaga> ah..
[18:37] <CFHowlett> starter this?  http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> zanaga: it said when you joined the channel...
[18:38] <starter> what does boot loader mean?
[18:38] <bazhang> starter something like grub?
[18:38] <starter> I am very new in linux
[18:38] <matanya> ActionParsnip: ?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> starter: its the thing that loads first, allowing you to select OS and/or kernel
[18:38] <JennyBlueBird> MrSpock: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+freenode+channels
[18:38] <Demaier> Im using backtrack, i have tried both kubuntu and ubuntu firefox, older versions, i cant get flash to work, i cant get ubufox to work either
[18:38] <starter> thank you very much
[18:38] <bazhang> JennyBlueBird, please never use that here
[18:38] <starter> it is more clear now
[18:38] <JennyBlueBird> ok
[18:39] <bazhang> Demaier, then get bt support in their channel
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> matanya: giving me a pastebin doesn't tell me much really
[18:39] <wylde> Demaier: backtrack isn't supported here
[18:39] <bazhang> Demaier, #backtrack-linux
[18:39] <Demaier> ahh do you know where the channel is?
[18:39] <Demaier> kk
[18:39] <matanya> ActionParsnip: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Matanya-laptop-oneiric-20120316-2.png
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Demaier: why do you need flash, backtrack is a network tool
[18:39] <Demaier> well it brings me here
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Demaier: your release isn't supported here
[18:39] <bazhang> Demaier, well thats where to go
[18:40] <Demaier> ik i go to #backtrack-linux
[18:40] <Demaier> it brings me here
[18:40] <asmund> anybody know a good tool to backup a bunch of files to multiple dvd's? i have not found any good tools for this simple task
[18:40] <Ghosts> Hello
[18:40] <Ghosts> Im England
[18:40] <matanya> asmund: k3b
[18:40] <Burnmoh> :)
[18:41] <asmund> matanya: really? now, that's embarassing...:)
[18:41] <matanya> why?
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !backup| asmund
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Demaier: Irssi: #backtrack-linux: Total of 221 nicks [8 ops, 0 halfops, 4
[18:42] <asmund> i have searched far and wide, fiddled with python scripts and whatnot. Now it turns out that the good ol' k3b will do the job...
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> asmund: bit of a bloat on a gnome based desktop though...
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> matanya: not sure dude, tried Precise liveCD to test?
[18:43] <matanya> I did
[18:44] <matanya> was slower
[18:44] <asmund> ActionParsnip: I only need to have an extra backup of my digital photos, so i can propably remove it afterwards..
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> asmund: drupal is in a default install
[18:44] <trishxo> chrislu5tic
[18:45] <trishxo> yo chrislu5tic
[18:46] <Aliv3> omg gEdit won't open
[18:46] <trishxo> ActionParsnip: chrislu5tic
[18:46] <Aliv3> it froze, force closed, error logged, and now it won't open
[18:47] <Burnmoh> is there any way to hack ip ?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: run it in a terminal, what is output (use a pastebin please)
[18:47] <Burnmoh> in ubuntu
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> Aliv3  what kind of document did you try to open?
[18:47] <bazhang> Burnmoh, to do what
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Burnmoh: that is offtopic here
[18:47] <Burnmoh> bazhang to trace the victim machine
[18:47] <Burnmoh> it is possible to with ubuntu ?
[18:47] <Burnmoh> do*
[18:47] <bazhang> Burnmoh, what victim
[18:48] <Aliv3> I was editing HTML, I didn't open anything I was making a page went to IRC window, went back and it froze
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> Aliv3  open a html with gedit?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: what is the text generated by the steps I gave pleae...
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> file*
[18:48] <nopf> Burnmoh: why not? if you can do it in windows, you can do it in buntu
[18:48] <Aliv3> Failed to call gedit service timeout reached and `G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
[18:48] <Burnmoh> cool
[18:49] <Aliv3> https://pastee.org/m9bbt
[18:49] <Aliv3> the pixmap warnings are normal
[18:50] <Burnmoh> wht if a person has a dynamic IP will it be effective to hack his machine
[18:50] <bazhang> Burnmoh, thats offtopic here
[18:50] <monkies> Test
[18:50] <Burnmoh> i heard that ubuntu offers lots of tools :(
[18:50] <Burnmoh> i asking abt ubuntu
[18:50] <bazhang> Burnmoh, so stop asking for help with that
[18:51] <Burnmoh> ok
[18:51] <bazhang> Burnmoh, yes, and its offtopic, so stop asking
[18:51] <Burnmoh> ok k
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf    will get rid of those pesky warnings
[18:51] <Burnmoh> bazhang wht should i ask here ?
[18:51] <bazhang> Burnmoh, ubuntu support questions
[18:51] <CFHowlett> Burnmoh   installing/configuring ubuntu
[18:52] <Burnmoh> hmm ok
[18:52] <stone_> leave #ubuntu
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: try comment 10 here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709836
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: or try a reboot (easier)
[18:53] <Burnmoh> is ubuntu and unix hv same platform in terms of coding and structure
[18:53] <dermaster> hello people!
[18:53] <CFHowlett> dermaster   greetings
[18:53] <dermaster> I am gig
[18:53] <dermaster> big
[18:53] <dermaster> you are little
[18:54] <bazhang> dermaster, actual support question?
[18:54] <dermaster> Although... i  only am 70 kg
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Burnmoh: similar, in places. not the same
[18:54] <dermaster> ah okay
[18:54] <dermaster> well i installed kubuntu 12.04
[18:54] <Burnmoh> k
[18:54] <dermaster> but i have read that kubuntu is get off after 12.04=
[18:54] <bazhang> dermaster, #ubuntu+1 for that
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> dermaster: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support only please
[18:54] <Burnmoh> why there are lots of distro in linux ?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Burnmoh: thats offtopic here
[18:54] <Burnmoh> oh sorry
[18:55] <bazhang> Burnmoh, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
[18:55] <CFHowlett> dermaster   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html
[18:57] <Burnmoh> how to config tor in ubuntu , i used this command "apt-get install tor" for installing
[18:58] <matthew_> logout
[18:58] <Burnmoh> after that wht i hv to do ?
[18:58] <bazhang> Burnmoh, for use on irc?
[18:58] <Burnmoh> bazhang yes
[18:58] <Aliv3> I'll reboot later, just get a different text editor for now
[18:58] <bazhang> Burnmoh, ask in freenode about tor and sasl  /join #freenode
[18:59] <L3top> !info noatime
[18:59] <Burnmoh> bazhang ok
[18:59] <wylde> Aliv3: you may have a similar issue regardless, if your dbus service crashed
[18:59] <Aliv3> gedit works unelevated :(
[18:59] <asmund> matanya: I'm looking around in k3b, but creating a data project, adding files and choosing burn just makes it ask for a bluray disk... How to I make it split over several disks?
[19:00] <riderplus> i just read that starting 10.04 there's no OSS compatibility layer  for ALSA. i want to use volume control from within mp3blaster. since /dev/mixer is missing, i can't do that. that sucks
[19:02] <Ebron> Which backup solutions would you recommend for ubuntu?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[19:02] <bazhang> Ebron, depends on your needs
[19:02] <CFHowlett> riderplus   check in with #ubuntustudio and #opensourcemusicans on that issue
[19:03] <Ebron> bazhang: In case of hdd-failure, get up and running as fast and as painlessly as possible -> db's, services, application servers, users, groups and even logs (server)
[19:03] <bazhang> Ebron, clone?
[19:04] <Ebron> bazhang: takes too much space
[19:04] <Ebron> I can live with installing ubuntu again, but then I would like to type restore and voila, apache is again installed, my apt-repos are back to normal, logcheck is configured - you get my drift
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Ebron: i use a cron'd cp command to copy what I need to my other box.
[19:05] <nancy--> hi, i have installed apache. how can i point my www.domain.com to the  /var/www folder?     i mean manage dns ?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Ebron: then make a script and call it 'restore'
[19:05] <wylde> Ebron: ever looked at squashfs? Excellent compression if compiled with XZ support
[19:05] <matanya> asmund: sorry, not supported
[19:05] <Ebron> wylde: for a clone?
[19:06] <matanya> but hey asmund try this: http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/403148-k3b-spreading-data-project-over-multiple-discs.html
[19:06] <matanya> nmoh, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
 dermaster   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html
 how to config tor in ubuntu , i used this command "apt-get install tor" for installing
 logout
 after that wht i hv to do ?
 Burnmoh, for use on irc?
[19:06] <FloodBot1> matanya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:06] <wylde> Ebron: it compresses the entire filesystem, either to a file or compressed block device
[19:06] <bazhang> matanya, ??
[19:06] <Ebron> ActionParsnip: Yes, I thought of that - but that would make me responsible for getting all the correct files and permissions in the correct order, and let's face it - I don't think of everything
[19:07] <wylde> Ebron: it's used widely on live cd's and embedded devices
[19:07] <matanya> sorry. asmund :try this: http://www.rikishi42.net/SkunkWorks/Junk/
[19:08] <Ebron> wylde: nice, so if I get this correctly I would mount a backupdrive with squashfs and just clone the entire shebang like virtual machines do?
[19:08] <waperboy> upgraded my old laptop from 8.04 to 10.04 - now network-applet shows 'disconnected' icon when wireless connects... any thoughts?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: is the wifi connected ok though?
[19:08] <waperboy> yes
[19:08] <CFHowlett> waperboy   direct uprgrade or clean install?  Hmm.  If wifi works I vote live with it.
[19:08] <waperboy> not a big deal, just annoying
[19:09] <wylde> Ebron: essentially yes, but the package from sources only has gzip support compiled in, you' need to download the source and libs to compile in XZ compression.
[19:09] <waperboy> 8.04 update-manager -> upgrade to 10-04
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: yeah was thinking no big deal. Could install wicd and uninstall network-manager but i'd just let it do what it wants
[19:09] <wylde> Ebron: it makes an exact compressed duplicate of the filesystem
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: could delete the wireless network, then re-add too
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> wylde: shame partimage doesn't use ext4 yet :(
[19:10] <waperboy> yea, no biggie, signal shows if I click on the icon, so just cosmetic
[19:10] <wylde> Ebron: I keep all my photo's and doc templates in a .squashfs file, it can also be mounted as a loop device that way
[19:10] <wylde> Ebron:  read-only though
[19:10] <waperboy> how's gnome 3 then
[19:11] <Ebron> wylde: How do you go about restoring the installation if it gets bricked?
[19:11] <CFHowlett> waperboy   I suspect a clean install would fix that -
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: not bad here
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: tbh, i'd just suck it up til next month, then clean install Precise (which is also LTS)
[19:11] <Ebron> wylde: just uncompress it on / ?
[19:11] <wylde> Ebron: I 'believe' you could boot a live cd and uncompress the filesystem to it
[19:12] <waperboy> 12-04
[19:12] <Ebron> wylde: That
[19:12] <wylde> Ebron, I can't say from experience, but I would think so. Do a bit of research on it though.
[19:12] <Ebron> wylde: That's actually not a bad idea
[19:12] <CryptIce7> i'm getting a weird error when compiling libp0f.      .libs/crc32.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized      anyone know why this is?
[19:12] <waperboy> ActionParsnip, maybe I'll try installing the latest on virtualbox
[19:12] <CryptIce7> running 11.10 32bit
[19:13] <waperboy> love doing anything with virtualboxes, 24 gigs of mem waiting to be used ;)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: why not, good way to try before you buy. Could try xfce 12.04 if you dislike unity
[19:14] <CFHowlett> waperboy   be like pokemon - try 'em all.
[19:14] <waperboy> :)
[19:15] <waperboy> ActionParsnip, what's the rundown of xfce then - ubuntu spinoff?
[19:15] <vlt> Hello. When I log in my audio volume is set to 100%. My neighbours already hate me (and the Ubuntu jingle). How to avoid this?
[19:15] <CFHowlett> !xubuntu>waperboy
[19:16] <wylde> Ebron: squashfs gets incredible compression on filesystems, but like all compression methods data that's already binary or compressed, (compiled programs, images, mp3) don't gain much from the compression.
[19:16] <bluealchemy> hey all
[19:17] <bluealchemy> I just installed Ocelot
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: officially supported canonical release using xfce
[19:17] <bluealchemy> and my sound doesn't work
[19:17] <guest-S1Ae6b> hi everybody
[19:17] <vlt> !enter | bluealchemy
[19:17] <bluealchemy> can someone help me
[19:17] <bluealchemy> I'm not
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> bluealchemy: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[19:18] <guest-S1Ae6b> accidentally deleted the home folder and now can only log in as guest. how can i create the folder with my user name without reinstalling?
[19:18] <waperboy> ActionParsnip,  what variety of gui apps do you install on it, if not gnome-apps
[19:19] <nancy--> hi, i have installed apache. how can i point my www.domain.com to the  /var/www folder?     i mean manage dns ?
[19:19] <ehm> vlt, set your master volume lower.  It should save on reboot.  Kind of obvious, but if you're on  a desktop, you could also turn off your speakers.
[19:20] <nopf> ehm: vlt:  well, *i* changed the login sound to something not annoying. just can't remember how. how did it do it?
[19:20] <ajankovic> hi, how to turn off printing of current directory in terminal prompt?
[19:20] <bluealchemy> chmod: cannot access `./alsa-info.sh': No such file or directory
[19:21] <iwface> hi, how to create the home folder without reinstalling??  have a /home partition specifically for this
[19:22] <waperboy> iwface, can you be more specific?
[19:22] <nopf> ajankovic: change the value of PS1 environment variable. maybe even in /etc/bash.bashrc for all users/logins
[19:23] <haz3lnut> iwface: you know the root password?
[19:23] <iwface> waperboy: just installed 12.04 and set the home folder in a separate partition i had previously
[19:23] <vlt> ehm: I turned down the master volume to ~15%. It’s on 100% again when I log in.
[19:23] <bluealchemy> hello? can someone help me?
[19:23] <iwface> waperboy: accidentally, deleted the home folder with my username, the partition is still there but the folder is gone
[19:24] <waperboy> iwface, oh, so you deleted the home folder that you want
[19:24] <waperboy> iwface, can't help you if that's the case
[19:24] <haz3lnut> iwface: create a new user
[19:24] <iwface> haz31nut: i know the password, and the file system is intact, just doesn't log in because it lacks a home folder. have to login as guest
[19:25] <haz3lnut> iwface: at the grub menu boot the recovery console
[19:25] <haz3lnut> iwface: useradd iwface
[19:25] <vlt> ehm: This is my alsa setup: /tmp/alsa-info.txt.FFSqO0SSiS (Out put of http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh)
[19:26] <haz3lnut> iwface: then reboot. you should get the iwface user in the login screen
[19:26] <waperboy> symlinks and mounts are your friends :)
[19:26] <iwface> waperboy: tried to copy the home folder from a guest session, which is stored in /tmp, into the separate partition, but it doesnt work as it lacks the configuration files with my username
[19:27] <sda1986> hola, i have a computer inside a network, and a modem with an IP, i cannot assign direcly the external IP to the computer but i would like to have as my IP source the external IP, how can I do?
[19:27] <iwface> so i guess reinstalling is the best shot??
[19:28] <haz3lnut> iwface: I just told you how to do it.
[19:29] <vlt> sda1986: As source visible by whom? Anyone outside your local network? The “modem” (I assume it’s a router if it’s got an IP) should do masquerading/natting.
[19:30] <waperboy> no need to reinstall
[19:31] <waperboy> try haz3lnut's advice
[19:31] <waperboy> or can you not log in at all?
[19:32] <encrypt> waperboy: can only log in as guest!
[19:32] <vlt> Everytime I log in my audio volume is set to 100%. How to avoid this? My alsa setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/888204/
[19:32] <haz3lnut> iwface: at the grub menu boot the recovery console
[19:32] <haz3lnut> iwface: useradd iwface
[19:32] <haz3lnut> iwface: then reboot. you should get the iwface user in the login screen
[19:33] <sda1986> vlt, the truth is this is only a step of my project :D yes I know about NAT inside the routers, but right now i only want to change the source of the package, marsquerade them, one to one, if i have 10 pc inside my lan i can have 10ip ouside but i must use thouse 10outside ip
[19:34] <iwface> haznut: the system boots to the login screen, my username is there, hit the passwd and then comes back to the login screen
[19:34] <waperboy> sigh - my ISP-provided router can only do port-forwarding if firewall is turned off - and then its web-interface is exposed to the world... :/
[19:35] <haz3lnut> iwface: you don;t get a grub menu with option to select recover or do a memtest?
[19:35] <vlt> sda1986: I don’t understand your setup. Maybe if you described it step by step I could help.
[19:35] <iwface> haz31nut: yes but the issue is not at the grub menu
[19:36] <haz3lnut> iwface: I know. I'm telling yo how to create a new user, which will crate a new home folder.
[19:37] <iwface> haz31nut: by booting the recovery console? will it ask me to create a new user?
[19:37] <waperboy> no, but it will enable you to do so
[19:38] <iwface> haz31nut: never used the recovery console, so dont know what it does
[19:38] <haz3lnut> iwface: no, it will ask for root password. then drop you to shell prompt where you will type "useradd iwface"  without quotes or whatever username you want.
[19:38] <iwface> haz31nut: that seems a proper workaround!
[19:39] <waperboy> recovery mode will boot into single-user mode (root), where you can add the user
[19:39] <haz3lnut> iwface: good luck
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> haz3lnut: there is no root pass, so you drop straight to the prompt
[19:39] <MrHanjrah> waperboy: single user mode is always the root user
[19:39] <iwface> ok ok, will give it a go, thanks for the support!
[19:39] <erpo> I installed kubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu 11.10 machine and now I have the kubuntu boot splash screen. How do I get the standard boot splash screen back?
[19:39] <waperboy> MrHanjrah, as I was explaining :)
[19:40] <haz3lnut> ActionParsnip: not on my machine, there is a root password, because I set one. :-)
[19:40] <MrHanjrah> oh, hehe
[19:40] <nancy--> for apache2  i just saw the sites-available and enabled files.  but i cant understand how to point /var/www/mysite/    to    www.mysite.com
[19:41] <sda1986> vlt, I sent you a private message
[19:41] <waperboy> I think his problem is that the user exists, but thet home dir doesn't
[19:41] <Shinobi_> Anyone have a good way to organize media? If I organize by type (ebook, video, etc) it's nice for applications like rhythmbox, but sucks when I want to find all my material on a specific topic. If I arrange by topic, it's a pain to add to apps like rhythmbox. Is there a way to do both? I was looking at using hardlinks, but unison doesn't support them..
[19:41] <iwface> Just to advice people with similar issues: after installing precise today, network-manager was not working, had to boot live-session, chroot the partition where had installed ubuntu and run apt update & upgrade.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Erpo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u
[19:42] <iwface> It works, i refreshed the software sources from the live-cd!! awesome, isnt it
[19:42] <MrHanjrah> waperboy: hmm, maybe point *him* to the useradd command, and the -m flag
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> haz3lnut: ok but the DEFAULT install doesnt have one. Nor is it needed
[19:42] <dysoco|laptop> Is it normal that some apps take too long to start in Ubuntu 11.10 ? (Software Center - About 7 seconds)
[19:42] <shadfc> hey guys, i'm in 11.10 and i have near constant HDD activity even when I'm not using the machine.  Using iotop, it shows rsyslogd and jdb2 are the culprits, but i'm not sure how to fix it
[19:43] <waperboy> MrHanjrah :)
[19:43] <haz3lnut> ActionParsnip: thanks for the correction.
[19:43] <MrHanjrah> that would create the new home directory if it doesnt already exist,
[19:43] <waperboy> anyway, I always confuse useradd with adduser
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> dysoco|laptop: i find software centre painfully slow and is why i don't use it
[19:44] <erpo> ActionParsnip: Beautiful. Thanks!
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Erpo: np dude
[19:44] <dysoco|laptop> ActionParsnip: I always use Aptitude, but I often use Software Center to search Applications
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> dysoco|laptop: aptitude can search or you can use apt-cache :-€
[19:45] <dysoco|laptop> I know, but I like to read the reviews and so, it's a plus I don't have in my Slackware box :P
[19:45] <dysoco|laptop> going to restart Xs, brb
[19:46] <waperboy> I just love every minute of Linux-usage - uptime for my desktop is now 25 days, with suspend every night, 4 virtual desktops, 350 processes, tv card, ir control, virtual machines running - can't get enough :)
[19:46] <seby288> ola
[19:46] <seby288> ola
[19:47] <parapan> hello fellows > what extract script in the path means ??? what is the path in ubuntu 10.04 ???
[19:47] <MrHanjrah> waperboy: damnn, you have i7? or i5 at the least
[19:47] <waperboy> i7
[19:47] <waperboy> 24 gigs
[19:48] <MrHanjrah> aha! tell dual core to do that.
[19:48] <dysoco|laptop> Anyone has Utilities Lens ?
[19:48] <waperboy> lots of love :)
[19:48] <MrHanjrah> lol it'll die
[19:49] <waperboy> had a problem with spurious system-freezes, but figured out that it was Transmission that cause them
[19:49] <stillParsnip> waperboy: tried the transmission team ppa?
[19:49] <waperboy> stillParsnip, what, for nightly builds?
[19:50] <stillParsnip> waperboy: install preload too :-)
[19:50] <waperboy> stillParsnip, they fixed it?
[19:50] <zykotic10> parapan: your path is whats is searched for programs to run from the terminal. to see your path type "echo $PATH".
[19:51] <stillParsnip> Waperboy: later build may help but I imagine you just installed an alternative
[19:51] <waperboy> stillParsnip, no, I just close it after it's done...
[19:51] <parapan> zykotic10: but there are several paths ....usr/local/bin ...usr/local.sbin ...
[19:52] <parapan> zykotic10: what is the default one ???
[19:52] <stillParsnip> waperboy: i hope you configured /etcsysctl.conf to take advantage of your RAM...
[19:52] <zykotic10> parapan: those are each directories in your path ;)
[19:52] <waperboy> stillParsnip, previously I used to leave it open, to seed, then I had the freezes
[19:53] <zykotic10> parapan: they're all kinda default?  not sure what you mean (you should have multiple programs with the same name generally)
[19:53] <zykotic10> shouldn't
[19:53] <delac> what is the function to get page number in calc?
[19:53] <Ca11um> Can I use remote desktop with Wine?
[19:53] <waperboy> stillParsnip, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with those configs
[19:53] <parapan> zyk: I must install exiftool somewhere in the path .....
[19:54] <zykotic10> !tab > parapan
[19:54] <orionsonofneptun> why is it when i click on time it wont open window to change time??? ubuntu 11.10
[19:54] <stillParsnip> waperboy: look into it. At least vm.swappiness if you made a swap partition
[19:54] <zykotic10> parapan: for just your user or multiple users?
[19:55] <parapan> zykotic10: only one user ..
[19:55] <m4rcel> hi, my keyboar has a broken key, I nee to know  how to swap its function with the key with a logo of winows
[19:55] <tomodo> lol
[19:55] <waperboy> stillParsnip, yea, reduced swappiness, but don't know much else about sysctl
[19:56] <zykotic10> parapan: easiest option might be to create a ~/bin in that users home directory, copy the executable there then relog in as that user and it should be in their path
[19:56] <vivekm> In ubuntu 11.04, I am unable to find libgthread-2.0 ... One of the programs I am compiling need this library.......
[19:57] <tomodo> m4rcel: xmodmap -e 'keysym comma = d'  changes comma to d
[19:57] <parapan> zykotic10: Unpack the zipped tar file and store in a folder somewhere, preferably a folder in your path.  You can run the wrapper script (avchd2srt) from anywhere, as long as the core (avchd2srt-core) and the awk scrript (avchd2srt.awk) are in the same directory as the wrapper script.
[19:58] <m4rcel> I on't want to change comma, i want to change the winows logo key
[19:58] <zykotic10> parapan: sorry dude, that's too specific for me to help with ;)  i don't want to go though the entire 3rd party install of some library/program - best of luck though!
[19:58] <waperboy> stillParsnip, seems sysctl is a whole world of its own
[19:59] <soreau> m4rcel: use xmodmap
[19:59] <dlentz> vivekm, do you have libglib2.0-dev installed?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Waperboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/888250/
[20:00] <vivekm> dlentz, yes
[20:00] <waperboy> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll look into what those are before I do anything :)
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: add them to /etc/sysctl.conf   and reboot :-)
[20:01] <CrAsHBuRn> ciao a tutti
[20:02] <CFHowlett> !it|CrAsHBuRn
[20:02] <crazyandi86> vivekm: you should find the lib under /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so
[20:02] <waperboy> ActionParsnip, will it impair my 100mb net connection?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: should make it a little faster
[20:04] <m4rcel> tomodo: how could i found this key i want's name? the winows logo key
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> m4rcel: superL
[20:05] <dlentz> crazyandi86, building a program requires a -dev package (header file)
[20:05] <waperboy> alas, it's months between reboots, got so many apps running that  I don't want to set it all up again unless absolutely necessary
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> m4rcel: if you run:  xev   and press it, you'll see
[20:05] <m4rcel> actionparsnip what is that?
[20:05] <Mylesmadness> Does anyone know if the Radeon HD 6850 is supported?
[20:06] <encrypt0> waperboy: back with a new user name :)
[20:06] <m4rcel> oki thanks
[20:06] <waperboy> encrypt0, great!
[20:06] <tonussi> my xchat dont work.
[20:06] <tonussi> someone had some problem with xchat?
[20:06] <encrypt0> waperboy: but now cant sudo! this is what terminal says about me now:
[20:07] <encrypt0> encrypt0 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported
[20:07] <dlentz> tonussi, what is the issue?
[20:07] <dlentz> Mylesmadness, yes, it's supported with Ubuntu 11.10
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: sudo sysctl -p   will apply it now :-)
[20:07] <Mylesmadness> dlentz: yay. thanks
[20:07] <crazyandi86> dlentz: thanks for the correction :) ( wanted to paste the header file )
[20:07] <waperboy> ActionParsnip, :)
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: Linux == few reboots
[20:08] <waperboy> ActionParsnip, exposing my system to your evil shenanigans ;)
[20:08] <encrypt0> so how to become a sudoer again, feel like im depracated or sth
[20:08] <tonussi> dlentz thanks for your attention. but i think my xchat come back.. its working fine again.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> waperboy: you can easily reverse it
[20:09] <waperboy> I like the word shenanigans ;)
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> encrypt0: add your user to the admin group
[20:10] <waperboy> encrypt0, again, you will have to do that from the recovery mode
[20:11] <encrypt0> ActionParsnip: with useradd command,
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> encrypt0: i use:  usermod -a -G admin name
[20:11] <encrypt0> waperboy: no need to boot from recovery mode, just ctrl+alt+f1 at the login screen does it
[20:13] <tonussi> Now i have another problem with xchat... i dont know why but my channel list is gone.
[20:14] <waperboy> ah, well to add yourself to sudoers, this should do it: echo 'username ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers
[20:14] <tonussi> There is an option to active the sidebar.. ¬¬ i didnt see it.
[20:14] <waperboy> as root
[20:14] <waperboy> username = your username
[20:17] <zephir> hey guys
[20:17] <hydrox24> zephir: Hi!
[20:18] <zephir> i have debian 5 installed on my vserver and would like to install php5.3 on it. when i run apt-get install php5 all i get is php 5.2.6
[20:18] <zephir> any idea how to fix this?
[20:18] <dlentz> zephir, see #debian
[20:18] <CFHowlett> zephir   please ask in #debian
[20:18] <zephir> :) okay
[20:18] <zephir> sorry
[20:22] <nancy--> what to put in ns record and what to put in nameservers for a domain ?
[20:23] <penno82> ciao
[20:23] <CFHowlett> !it|penno82
[20:23] <jussi> how do I figure out which gpg key is on this machine?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> How is dns different for a domain than a workgroup?
[20:24] <trism> jussi: gpg --list-keys; ?
[20:24] <jussi> trism: ahh, isnt one. thanks. so how do I create one?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Nancy: why would dns be different?
[20:26] <trism> jussi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key
[20:26] <jussi> trism: thanks
[20:26] <Burnmoh> dns just translate ur IP to names
[20:26] <vlt> Hello. Everytime I log in my audio volume is set to 100%. How to avoid this? My alsa setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/888204/
[20:28] <jussi> trism: thanks a lot, I appreciate the help and Im typing for some bytes :)
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Vlt: could add a command in your startup items to set it lower. You can use the amixer command
[20:28] <crazyandi86> vlt: which desktop are you using?
[20:28] <trism> jussi: hehe yeah takes forever
[20:30] <vlt> crazyandi86: Ubuntu default.
[20:30] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Can you give an example, please?
[20:31] <vlt> crazyandi86: I think it’s Gnome. How to figure out?
[20:33] <shadfc> hey, i'm getting TONS of these in kern.log -- "powernow-k8: transition frequency failed".   I've got a AMD Phenom II X6 1055T.  Any way to fix this?
[20:34] <Krenair> Will wine 1.5 be packaged on Ubuntu 11.04 (natty)?
[20:35] <schnuffle> shadfc: have you powernowd installed?
[20:36] <shadfc> schnuffle: yes
[20:36] <crazyandi86> vlt: try setting the volume, and then executing gnome-session-save
[20:36] <schnuffle> shadfc: other people solved the problem with a BIOS update
[20:37] <piotrt> hello
[20:37] <shadfc> hrm, ok
[20:37] <CFHowlett> piotrt   greetings
[20:37] <piotrt> is there a way to control gdm remotely? i would like to access my computer (i.e. log in) without using the keyboard, but for example using public key (like ssh
[20:38] <shadfc> schnuffle: i'll go check to see if there's an update available.  my board is a bit old
[20:38] <piotrt> the key could be stored on any bluetooth or usb device
[20:38] <vlt> crazyandi86: Thanks, I’ll try that.
[20:38] <schnuffle> shadfc: good luck
[20:38] <vlt> crazyandi86: No such command.
[20:39] <vlt> piotrt: There must be a native X server way to do this … but x11vnc works.
[20:40] <crazyandi86> vlt: which ubuntu version?
[20:40] <vlt> crazyandi86: I think the current 11.10. How to find out?
[20:40] <CFHowlett> vlt   lsb_release -a
[20:41] <TorbenBeta> use sysinfo
[20:41] <CFHowlett> or that :)
[20:41] <vlt> CFHowlett: Thanks.
[20:41] <vlt> crazyandi86: Yes, 11.10
[20:41] <piotrt> vlt: i'm looking to do it locally
[20:41] <piotrt> i just want to be able to log in without leaving the couch :)
[20:43] <vlt> piotrt: Then I haven’t understood what you actually want to do.
[20:43] <piotrt> vlt: i want to be able to start gnome session (when i'm using gdm for login) without touching the keyboard
[20:44] <schnuffle> piotrt: To connect remotley you have to activate XDMCP in lightdm. But I don't know if it supports key auth
[20:44] <piotrt> schnuffle: but i want to start the session locally
[20:44] <m4rcel> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip on Super_L
[20:44] <skinnux99> when i do a netboot install of ubuntu server, do i need to control the dhcp server?
[20:45] <vlt> piotrt, schnuffle: Without touching keyboard?
[20:45] <schnuffle> piotrt: Autologin is an option?
[20:45] <skinnux99> im plugging into a belkin router
[20:45] <skinnux99> and can only control another ubuntu desktop laptop
[20:45]  * CFHowlett Wants to login via telepathy...
[20:45] <parapan> hello > can someone point me out to unzipping a file somewhere in the path ??
[20:45] <vivekm> .. /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzdirect@ZLIB_1.2.2.3' ......... anybody? I got zlib 1.2.3.4
[20:45] <piotrt> vlt: exactly to be able to run X apps via e.g. ssh or other remote access methods, but on _my_ home computer, not the remote terminal
[20:46] <vlt> crazyandi86: Has the command changed in 11.10?
[20:46] <piotrt> schnuffle: not really, it's the laptop that i sometimes carry around
[20:46] <schnuffle> unzip -d /path file.zip
[20:46] <vlt> piotrt: touching keyboard?
[20:46] <vlt> piotrt: Without touching keyboard?
[20:47] <schnuffle> parapan: unzip -d /path zipfile.zip
[20:47] <piotrt> vlt: yes, not touching the keyboard which is attached to it
[20:47] <vlt> o_O
[20:47] <piotrt> using some other means of authentication than plain password
[20:48] <piotrt> e.g. remote device (bluetooth phone, ssh session, usb device, etc.)
[20:48] <vlt> piotrt: What about a crypted hard drive with key on usb and then auto-login?
[20:48] <mkultra_> i really messed my pc up last night, and fixed it this morning to 12.04 ;-)
[20:48] <Precognist> hello all
[20:48] <Precognist> i have an issue that i cant figure out
[20:48] <mkultra_> oh yeah?
[20:48] <vlt> piotrt: I don’t understand how “locally” and “remote device” go together.
[20:49] <CFHowlett> Precognist   ask away
[20:49] <piotrt> vlt: nice idea
[20:49] <Precognist> im having trouble getting the package pamusb on my ubuntu server machine. i type sudo apt-get libpam-usb pamusb-tools and it says package could not be found
[20:49] <encrypt0> waperboy: have home dir and sudoing properly now, thanks!
[20:49] <schnuffle> piotrt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17571
[20:49] <meerkats> i have data in a flash drive, can I create a partition with a different filesystem without deleting the data?
[20:49] <piotrt> vlt: not locally = to not log in using other X server for display than the one started already on this machine, while accessing the pc remotely
[20:50] <Guest2799> #/join ubuntu-cz
[20:50] <Precognist> .back.
[20:50] <vlt> piotrt: You mean the other machine must not use an X server thus x11vnc is no option, right?
[20:50] <piotrt> schnuffle: i'll look into it, thanks
[20:50] <piotrt> vlt: exactly
[20:50] <schnuffle> meerkats: if there's unused space yes, if not I don't think so. But you can convert from ext3 to ext4 without a loss. so to really answer the queston you need to be more precise
[20:50] <Guest2799> #/joinubuntu-cz
[20:51] <CFHowlett> Guest2799   /join #ubuntu-cz
[20:51] <Precognist> sudo apt-get libpam-usb pamusb-tools
[20:51] <Precognist>  package could not be found
[20:51] <Precognist> im having trouble getting the package pamusb on my ubuntu server machine. i type sudo apt-get libpam-usb pamusb-tools and it says package could not be found
[20:51] <crazyandi86> vlt: give amixer a try, put "amixer -q set Master 3% unmute" into /etc/rc.local ( before exit 0)
[20:51] <Precognist> sorry, paste""
[20:51] <guntbert> Precognist: apt-get install ....
[20:52] <schnuffle> Precognist: have you searched? like apt-cache search pam | grep usb
[20:52] <Precognist> same
[20:52] <CFHowlett> Precognist   that package appears in the "universe" repository
[20:52] <parapan> schnuffle:
[20:52] <meerkats> schnuffle, I have a 8 GB flash drive (memory stick), of those, 4.5 GB are used (stored data). The unit is all EXT4. I want to create, alongside this EXT4 data, a FAT32 one, with no more than 2 GBs of space
[20:53] <meerkats> without, of course, deletting the data
[20:53] <vlt> crazyandi86: The amixer command doesn’t even work when still logged in. The slider in the panel audio settings icon doesn’t move.
[20:53] <parapan> schnuffle: it's not just regular path ...it's THE PATH ...
[20:54] <schnuffle> meerkats: okay you can shrink the ext4 partition and add a fat32. Should be possible with gparted for example. Normally it can be done without data loss but it's always better to have a backup available
[20:54] <crazyandi86> vlt: what does it give in the console?
[20:54] <parapan> schnuffle: using echo $PATH I saw /usr/local/bin being in the path ......unzipped the file there, but when trying to execute error: command not found
[20:54] <Precognist> member:identifier:cfhowlett i tried the apt-cache search pam | grep usb
[20:54] <schnuffle> parapan: ?
[20:54] <meerkats> schnuffle, is high the percentage of data loss if I go ahed without a backup?
[20:55] <Precognist> it did nothing
[20:55] <meerkats> ahead*
[20:55] <Precognist> -v ?
[20:55] <vlt> crazyandi86: No error. When opening alsamixer I can see the Master slider move. But when I move the slider for the (audible) audio volume in the panel no slider in alsamixer moves.
[20:55] <CFHowlett> Precognist   apt-cache policy shows it in universe on my 10.04 lappy
[20:55] <parapan> schnuffle:
[20:56] <parapan> schnuffle: do you understand my issue ?
[20:56] <CFHowlett> Precognist   *pamusb-tools*
[20:56] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, are you intending the fat to be read by a windows OS?
[20:56] <trism> Precognist: you should add what ubuntu version you are on, I don't see it in oneiric
[20:56] <Precognist> im sorry, just upgraded to 11.04
[20:57] <meerkats> Fyodorovna, by linux and windows
[20:57] <dlentz> vlt, the panel uses pulseaudio to set volume, so amixer won't affect the slider
[20:57] <Precognist> i see the other pamusb-* stuff. but no the two packages i need
[20:57] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, for windows to see it the fat has to be the first partition I believe.
[20:57] <crazyandi86> vlt: perhaps you use pulseaudio, try: "amixer -D hw:0 -q set Master 3% unmute"
[20:57] <vlt> dlentz: How to set that volume that it’s NOT at 100% when I log in?
[20:58] <trism> Precognist: and you have universe enabled?
[20:58] <dlentz> I would try putting appropriate amixer command  in /etc/rc.local
[20:58] <vlt> crazyandi86: That command moves the same Master slider in alsamixer.
[20:58] <velko> meerkats, i second Fyodorovna but also without being sure
[20:58] <Precognist> i have no idea.
[20:58] <Precognist> ill say no?
[20:58] <Precognist> sorry, new to command line only
[20:58] <trism> Precognist: check /etc/apt/sources.list for universe
[20:58] <Precognist> ok
[20:58] <vlt> dlentz: What would such a command look like?
[20:58] <meerkats> what, shouldnt both partitions be on the same level?
[20:59] <dlentz> vlt, idk off the top of my head
[20:59] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, pretty sure with a usb, pull off what is on there and reformat it correctly and the partition numbers will be correct.
[20:59] <dlentz> did yo see crazyandi86's earlier suggestion
[20:59] <vlt> Does anyone know how to adjust the volume slider in the (upper right) panel from script/commandline?
[21:00] <velko> meerkats, i guess you have better chance if you put the vfat partition first and the ext partition after that
[21:00] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, windows wont read the fat throght the ext4 on a external.
[21:00] <vlt> dlentz: Yes, but that doesn’t move the volume slider in the panel.
[21:00] <crazyandi86> vlt: it DOES move the slider with "amixer -q set Master 3% unmute" for me
[21:00] <Fyodorovna> *through It wont be mounted as read write or at all. meerkats
[21:00] <vlt> crazyandi86: Not here.
[21:00] <CFHowlett> Precognist   cat /etc/apt/sources.list to read your list.  "universe" will NOT have ## in front if it is enabled.
[21:00] <meerkats> f*ckinf windows...
[21:01] <crazyandi86> vlt: just wanted to point that out :)
[21:01] <vlt> crazyandi86: It does move the master slider in alsamixer. But that doesn’t affect the audible audio volume.
[21:01] <dlentz> vlt, install pulseaudio-utils and read the pactl man page
[21:02] <vlt> dlentz: It’s installed (by default).
[21:02] <Barridus> is there a better RDP client than remmina?  the sound cuts out from a remote computer in the next room
[21:02] <dlentz> maybe like: pactl set-sink-volume 0 10%  (assuming sink with index 0 is your card)
[21:03] <waperboy> when I first installed Linux, in... 1993-94? ...it was Slackware, and the installation process included answering yes or no to every single package
[21:03] <nfs1mw> in ubuntu 11.10 , how to edit grub to boot windows by default. Anyone please...
[21:03] <vlt> dlentz: YES!
[21:04] <vlt> dlentz, crazyandi86: `pactl info`: Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_06.0.iec958-stereo
[21:04] <vlt> dlentz: Thank you!
[21:04] <Precognist> ok, checked, and universe appears to be open
[21:05] <trism> Precognist: did you just install? have you sudo apt-get update; yet?
[21:05] <nfs1mw> pls anyone answer me....
[21:05] <Precognist> yes
[21:05] <trism> Precognist: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[21:05] <CFHowlett> nfs1mw  greetings
[21:06] <Fyodorovna> nfs1mw, http://www.joewein.net/blog/2009/11/28/fix-windows-as-default-boot-on-ubuntu-9-10-with-grub2-loader/
[21:06] <Precognist> umm... how do i do that from command line?
[21:06] <vlt> crazyandi86, dlentz: /etc/rc.local diesn’t seem to be an appropriate place because pulse runs as the user after logging in. Any idea where to put that command?
[21:07] <Fyodorovna> nfs1mw, the OS your using is fine same basic grub 2 and tweak.
[21:07] <trism> Precognist: you can install pastebinit, and then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[21:07] <Fyodorovna> !tab > Precognist
  thanks a lot.
[21:07] <Fyodorovna> nfs1mw, no problem, that is the best way.
[21:08] <vlt> Where can I put a command that has to be run immediately after logging in?
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> nfs1mw, don't forget to run sudo update-grub after the tweak.
[21:08] <Precognist> @ Fyodorovna @ubottu thanks
[21:08] <nfs1mw> ok ok
[21:08] <vlt> Or to be precise: Immediately after pulse is running.
[21:08] <john38> im dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu linux my computer gets past post but freezes at splash screen i've tried unplugging and plugging hardrive power cable and that usually fixes but freeze again every now and then could that be a power supply issue or hardrive?
[21:09] <MrSpock> john38 now you can take some help !
[21:09] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | john38
[21:10] <Kitty_> hey people can someone help me, how to install flash player on this :/ ?
[21:10] <Fyodorovna> john38, could it be a graphic driver is needed?
[21:10] <vlt> Hello. Where can I put a command that has to be run immediately after logging in and pulse has started for every user (including guest)?
[21:10] <Burnmoh> kitty where ?
[21:10] <Fyodorovna> Kitty_, generaly the restricted-extras are installed for flash and codecs...etc.
[21:11] <unda7V7erse> hey people
[21:11] <unda7V7erse> I've problem with some wifi issue
[21:11] <StevenX> Hi everyone. I am using VMPlayer to run Ubuntu as a guest machine. I am having trouble connecting to the internet. I have the network adapter set to "bridged" and it was working fine a few minutes ago.
[21:11] <StevenX> Now it won't work.
[21:11] <Onkeltem> hi all
[21:11] <unda7V7erse> how can I know which module related to the wifi I've install on my system ?
[21:11] <CFHowlett>   Onkeltem greetings
[21:11] <Onkeltem> I have 4Gb, but Ubuntu sees only 2
[21:11] <Burnmoh> stevenx change it to NAT
[21:12] <vlt> Onkeltem: RAM?
[21:12] <Onkeltem> vlt: positive
[21:12] <Kitty_> when i want to watch smtn on youtube , it requires flash player , i tried everything installed gnash, flashplugin - nonfree but nothing
[21:12] <Precognist> paste.ubuntu.com/88336
[21:12] <Precognist> paste.ubuntu.com/888336
[21:12] <Precognist> sorry
[21:12] <vlt> Onkeltem: 32bit kernel?
[21:12] <Onkeltem> vlt: Linux alpha 3.0.0-16-server #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 13:08:12 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:12] <velko> Kitty_, with which browser? firefox?
[21:13] <Precognist> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/888336
[21:13] <KM0201> is it that difficult to make a clickable link?
[21:13] <vlt> Onkeltem: Then I’m out of ideas.
[21:13] <mongy> Kitty_: flashplugin-installer , although if you are 64bit like me then it's better to add the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[21:13] <CFHowlett> Precognist   add http:// next time
[21:13] <Burnmoh> kitty  64bit or 32bit OS
[21:13] <Kitty_> no epiphany web browser
[21:14] <StevenX> Burnmoh, that completely solved the problem, but how come it was working under "bridged" before. Granted, it was on a different wireless network. I just don't understand what just happened. Thanks for your help.
[21:14] <velko> Kitty_, epiphany uses gnash i think. but gnash does not work very well on my system. just go with firefox
[21:14] <KM0201> Kitty_: just curious, why epiphany?  have you considered chromium( i understand not wanting the FF bloat)
[21:14] <vlt> unda7V7erse: Try `lspci -v`.
[21:14] <velko> KM0201, epiphany is a way faster than firefox
[21:14] <orionsonofneptun> hey all where to go for ubuntu server support channel
[21:15] <Precognist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/888336
[21:15] <KM0201> velko: i didn't deny that... if you read what i wrote
[21:15] <Snerf> how do you remove the sidepanel thing in ubuntu ?
[21:15] <Precognist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/888336/
[21:15] <vlt> Where can I put a command that has to be run immediately after logging in and pulse has started for every user (including guest)?
[21:15] <velko> KM0201, chromium submits a lot of stuff to google. not for the privacy concerned
[21:15] <Burnmoh> "apt-get install flashplugin-i386installer"
[21:15] <Kitty_> yes its way faster than firefox but , i had problems with firefox too and i needed to install this on :)
[21:16] <Precognist> how to get it to include the numbers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/888336
[21:16] <Precognist> ahh !!
[21:16] <Fyodorovna> Precognist, post this http://paste.ubuntu.com/888336/
[21:16] <KM0201> Kitty_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:16] <guntbert> orionsonofneptun: #ubuntu-server
[21:17] <orionsonofneptun> guntbert thank you
[21:17] <KM0201> Kitty_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:18] <Kitty_> Ubuntu 7.04
[21:18] <trism> Precognist: you are on 11.10 not 11.04, the libpam-usb source package isn't available in oneiric, I don't know why, sorry
[21:19] <CFHowlett> !eol|kitty_
[21:19] <trism> Precognist: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-usb
[21:19] <KM0201> Kitty_: jesus, thats your problem
[21:19] <trism> Precognist: it is available in precise though, which will be out in april
[21:19] <CFHowlett> Kitty_   you're ubuntu is way past end of life, i.e. no further support offered.
[21:20] <Kitty_> so what should i do now ? :/
[21:20] <Burnmoh> kitty update your firefox
[21:20] <KM0201> Burnmoh: updating firefox on 7.04, is totaly pointless,
[21:20] <Kitty_> i dont use firefox
[21:20] <Burnmoh> kitty oh i see
[21:20] <KM0201> she needs to upgrade her OS (actualy, clean installing a current version of Ubuntu, would be far quicker)
[21:20] <CFHowlett> Kitty_   upgrade ubuntu - I'd suggest you update to Long Term Support 10.04 ...
[21:20] <Precognist> trism:  so, what dist should i use to get pamusb working?
[21:21] <Kitty_> haha and how should i do that
[21:21] <Burnmoh> kitty get a 12.04 LTS  , cause 10.04 gonna end this year
[21:21] <CFHowlett> Precognist   might want to try downloading the .deb files and dpkg -i filename.deb
[21:21] <KM0201> Kitty_: fastest way.... backup and clean install... because otherwise, you're gonna have to upgrade 7.04 to 7.10, then 7.10 to 8.04, then you can go 8.04 to 10.04.   this will take FOREVER.. just clean install 10.04
[21:21] <CFHowlett> Burnmoh   wrong.  It's supported for another year
[21:21] <Burnmoh> CFhowlett just one more year its ok
[21:22] <CFHowlett> Kitty_   10.04 will be supported until next year.
[21:22] <Kitty_> i dont know how to upgrade and those stuffs :(
[21:23] <Burnmoh> kitty are you girl hehe !
[21:23] <CFHowlett> Kitty_  time to learn or learn to live with a seriously outdated system for which you will get no support ...
[21:23] <KM0201> Kitty_: then don't upgrade, clean install.
[21:23] <Kitty_> yeah im a girl lol :D
[21:23] <CFHowlett> Kitty_   clean install is the best option...
[21:23] <Burnmoh> kitty :D
[21:23] <KM0201> Kitty_: curious.. what are the specs on that machine>
[21:24] <Burnmoh> kitty just for now update ur firefox :P
[21:24] <Kitty_> specs ?
[21:24] <Kitty_> haha
[21:24] <KM0201> Kitty_: amount of ram, CPU, etc..?
[21:24] <Kitty_> but i dont use firefox
[21:24] <Precognist> trism: if i reinstall 10.10, will i be able to use pamusb? where can i find this information?
[21:24] <Kitty_> oh wait letme see
[21:24] <KM0201> a machine that old (that presumably had 7.04 installed when it was current) you might need to ditch Ubuntu, and possibly look at xubuntu or Lubuntu
[21:24] <Burnmoh> kitty  ok :(
[21:25] <CFHowlett> Precognist   exactly what km0201 suggests - x/l/ubuntu
[21:25]  * KM0201 <3's lxde
[21:26] <vlt> Where can I put a command that has to be run immediately after logging in and pulse has started for every user (including guest)?
[21:26] <CFHowlett> Precognist   you could download the .deb and inject via the command line - no downgrade required.
[21:26] <Precognist> that sounds easier. but i dont know how to do it.
[21:27] <Kitty_> 492, 6 memory MB haha and that CPU is moving
[21:27] <Precognist> damn i hate windows!
[21:27] <CFHowlett> Precognist   what version of ubuntu?  11.10
[21:27] <Precognist> yes
[21:27] <KM0201> Kitty_: that machine is to outdated for ubuntu 10.04... hell, it's to outdated for Lubuntu.
[21:27] <Burnmoh> kitty  i think firefox pre installed in ubuntu
[21:27] <CFHowlett> Precognist   on intel not amd cpu??
[21:27] <KM0201> you need to look at either Puppy or DSL.
[21:27] <Kitty_> oh god ...
[21:27] <Precognist> yes
[21:27] <Kitty_> :(
[21:27] <KM0201> Burnmoh: do you type just to see what you say?... firefox is not the issue
[21:27] <Precognist> (brb) still paying attention
[21:28] <Burnmoh> KM0201 just for now iam try to fix it :P
[21:28] <CFHowlett> Precognist   download the .deb from  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/pamusb-tools/download  then open an terminal sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[21:28] <Burnmoh> later she can install any version
[21:28] <KM0201> Burnmoh: well, you should review what she's said.
[21:29] <Burnmoh> oh
[21:29] <KM0201> Kitty_: if that really only has 6mb of ram (frankly, i highly doubt that)... i'm surprised you're even running 7.04
[21:29] <KM0201> CFHowlett: have we been trolled?
[21:29] <KM0201> lol
[21:29] <CFHowlett> KM0201   gee you think?
[21:30] <KM0201> CFHowlett: she was good, she started out like she had a real problem, but i wondered why the hell it took her 5min to tell me she had 7.04
[21:30] <KM0201> probably had to google to find an EOL release..lol
[21:30] <CFHowlett> *gotcha*
[21:31] <Kitty_> i didnt know haha just googled how to check my version and told you guys
[21:31] <CFHowlett> KM0201   points for creativity though.  Not the USUAL racist rants/ubuntu slams/politco-religo propaganda
[21:31] <Kitty_> :(
[21:31] <KM0201> CFHowlett: for sure.
[21:31] <Kitty_> it sucks i can even watch a stupid video
[21:31] <Burnmoh> kitty my advise to you is get a mac , its for girls hehe
[21:31] <Kitty_> cant
[21:31] <Kitty_> *
[21:31] <KM0201> Kitty_: frankly, a machine that old is good for nothing.. if you pay the shipping, i'll take it to the range and put it out of its misery
[21:32] <CFHowlett> KM0201   bwahaaha!  Wear your cowboy hat and video tape the event
[21:32] <KM0201> CFHowlett: lmao... (that was a hilarious video)
[21:32] <CFHowlett> *ahem* ok back on topic now  :)
[21:32] <KM0201> lol
[21:34] <Kitty_> :/
[21:34] <CFHowlett> Precognist   you back yet?
[21:34] <Kitty_> yea that comforts
[21:34] <Kitty_> hah
[21:36] <trism> Precognist: I figured out why it isn't in oneiric: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612793 but the new version was just added back http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657742
[21:37] <trism> Precognist: if it were me I'd wait till april and upgrade to precise to get the new version, since there seem to be some bugs in the really old version, such as bug 558451
[21:37] <fourq> Could I use sed to create a file that contains the names of the all files found in a grep search?
[21:37] <Burnmoh> kitty are you from south carolina :D
[21:37] <trism> Precognist: plus it uses hal, so may not even work in oneiric
[21:38] <trism> Precognist: the old version that is, the new version is ported to udisks
[21:38] <Kitty_> south carolina ? haha burnmoh u playin some kind of quiz :P ?
[21:38] <Kitty_> no actually im faar away
[21:39] <Burnmoh> kitty oops my ip locater fails again
[21:39] <Kitty_> hahahah where u from ?
[21:39] <guntbert> !ot | Kitty_
[21:39] <username01> thanks
[21:39] <username01> ciao
[21:39] <username01> add
[21:39] <Burnmoh> kitty india
[21:40] <duped> Hi all
[21:40] <CFHowlett> duped   greetings
[21:40] <Kitty_> :)
[21:41] <Burnmoh> kitty get a ubuntu 11.10 new version :D
[21:41] <Kitty_> how should i do that
[21:41] <Kitty_> :(
[21:41] <Kitty_> i thought i dont have enough space too
[21:42] <Burnmoh> kitty oh how much you have ?
[21:42] <CFHowlett> Kitty_   you don't.  burnmoh didn't read the thread.
[21:42] <Kitty_> haha i see
[21:43] <Burnmoh> kitty http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[21:43] <Kitty_> i dont have space
[21:43] <Kitty_> oh god
[21:44] <duped> Kitty_, thumb drive perhaps?
[21:44] <KM0201> Burnmoh: did you actually read anything she typed (again, she's trolling, but thats beside the point).. her PC will not run any version of ubuntu.. hell, it probably won't run any version of Linux.. that pC needs put out to pasture.
[21:44] <cincinnatus> I would like to install Ubuntu Server on a virtual machine - for testing purposes. Does it work better with VirtualBox or with the native Microsoft VM that comes with Windows 7 Professional?
[21:44] <KM0201> cincinnatus: i learned ubuntu server by using vbox.. it worked fine
[21:44] <Burnmoh> KM0201 oh
[21:44] <duped> cincinnatus, I don't believe it makes a difference
[21:45] <Kitty_> trolling ? no
[21:46] <Chipzzz> Kitty_: i just got here & can't read your previous posts... can you give a brief background please?
[21:46] <velko_> Kitty_, if you are unsure how to reinstall your os, try to get in touch with a local linux user group near you. they will help you
[21:46] <guntbert> Kitty_: please take it easy on the <enter> key, you are filling up the channel
[21:47] <Kitty_> filling up the channel -.- haha sorry for that i was just asking for help whatever :D
[21:47] <KM0201> Chipzzz: she's using 7.04.. on a 486 w/ 6mb of ram (supposedly)....
[21:47] <Chipzzz> KM0201: oh... ok, thanks :-)
[21:47] <KM0201> Chipzzz: but, she's trolling, so.. :)
[21:48] <Chipzzz> ;-)
[21:48] <Kitty_> -.- no
[21:48] <velko_> KM0201, it is possible that she's not a technical person
[21:48] <Enkari> yoooo
[21:48] <lisakelly> hello ubunters :)
[21:48] <Enkari> Anyone fancy helping me sort out a problem I'm having with gnome?
[21:48] <KM0201> velko_: no... again, review the conversation.,. don't miss the forest because you're blinded by the trees
[21:48] <duped> KM0201, you have to be insane to either run 11.10 on a dinosaur with 6 mb of RAM.
[21:48] <lisakelly> how much disk space is needed to install Ubuntu?  Smallest amount?
[21:48] <KM0201> duped: it just wouldn't work, period.
[21:48] <Enkari> I think like 1.2gb
[21:49] <Enkari> downloaded iso file is like 700mb
[21:49] <Burnmoh> lisakelly 6gb
[21:49] <Burnmoh> i guess
[21:49] <Fyodorovna> lisakelly, about 5 gigs
[21:49] <duped> KM0201, I don't even think the server supports that little RAM.
[21:49] <lisakelly> is 12GB partition OK?
[21:49] <KM0201> duped: thats my point...
[21:49] <Fyodorovna> lisakelly, yeah.
[21:49] <duped> KM0201, obvious troll is obvious
[21:49] <Enkari> I'd say that's okay lisakelly
[21:49] <velko_> KM0201, duped i guess she just cannot tell
[21:49] <lisakelly> do I need to create 2 partitions to install Ubuntu?  one for Ubuntu and one for swap file?
[21:49] <KM0201> duped: exactly.
[21:49] <Enkari> Ubuntu will sort swap and shit for you
[21:50] <Burnmoh> once i used 6gb it was fine but after updating and installing softwares , just 100mb remained for me
[21:50] <Enkari> Just do a partition for Ubuntu
[21:50] <duped> lisakelly, you don't need a SWAP partition, but it's recommended
[21:50] <KM0201> lisakelly: a minimum, yes
[21:50] <Kitty_> hahah 6 gb :D yeah right i dont even own a one
[21:50] <Fyodorovna> lisakelly, generally yes put them in a extended as a logical for OS and the other a swap
[21:50] <KM0201> it's a good idea to have a swap,
[21:50] <Enkari> Anyone able to help me with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11773388#post11773388
[21:50] <Burnmoh> kitty lol
[21:50] <lisakelly> why is is recommended to get a swap partition and how big does the swap partition need to be?
[21:50] <Kitty_> i know :(
[21:50] <KM0201> lisakelly: rule of thumb,... 1.5-2x your physical ram
[21:50] <Enkari> I think it depends on how much RAM you have?
[21:51] <KM0201> for swap
[21:51] <lisakelly> I have 4GB ram
[21:51] <Burnmoh> lisakelly no need for swap if you have enough memory :P
[21:51] <atomicfusion1> on a 11.10 liveusb, cryptsetup fails with any cipher with "device-mapper: readio ioctl failed: Invalid argument". i have loaded every driver in kernel/crypto. anyone know whats up?
[21:51] <lisakelly> how big should my swap partition be?
[21:51] <KM0201> lisakelly: then you'd likely want a 6gig swap.
[21:51] <Fyodorovna> lisakelly, swap is for memory overflow and if you want to hibernate, should be equal to the ram.
[21:51] <KM0201> Burnmoh: thats not accurate. there's a logical reason to have a swap, even w/ a lot of ram
[21:51] <duped> lisakelly, Normally a SWAP partition is twice the size of your RAM
[21:51] <KM0201> again, 1.5-2x your physical ram.. is a good rule of thumb for your swap size
[21:51] <lisakelly> so what happens if I install ubuntu without a swap partition?  Can ubuntu freeze up and not work?
[21:52] <velko_> lisakelly, if this is a laptop you need swap for suspending. else you don't need it
[21:52] <Fyodorovna> duped, not true equal to is fine.
[21:52] <duped> Fyodorovna, I said normally. Not always. Of course there are exceptions.
[21:52] <Burnmoh> KM0201 may be for suspends mode
[21:52] <Fyodorovna> lisakelly, without a swap you have no hibernate, no other affect really with that much ram.
[21:52] <KM0201> lisakelly: it really depends
[21:52] <KM0201> Burnmoh: lol, no.
[21:53] <duped> Bye, all
[21:53] <lisakelly> so as long as I never hibernate ubuntu I dont need a swap partition?
[21:53] <KM0201> lol
[21:53] <Burnmoh> lisakelly ya
[21:53] <lisakelly> what happens if you try to hibernate and dont have a swap partition?
[21:53] <Kitty_> im hopeless haha
[21:53] <KM0201> the advice given here absolutely kills me sometimes,..
[21:53] <xangua> lisakelly: the installer will take care for the swap partition
[21:53] <KM0201> lisakelly: i would pay attention to the advice your getting.
[21:53] <Fyodorovna> lisakelly, it wont, you need the swap for hibernate.
[21:54] <Burnmoh> lisakelly hibernate uses HDD space
[21:54] <lisakelly> I have Windows 7 on C:, will ubuntu installer touch that?
[21:54] <KM0201> keep in mind, Burnmoh told Kitty_ 5x to install 11.10 on a 486
[21:54] <Shojo> Kitty_:  prv
[21:54] <Burnmoh> KM0201  haha
[21:54] <xangua> !dualboot | lisakelly
[21:54] <Fyodorovna> !tab | lisakelly
[21:54] <Chipzzz> Enkari: you could run htop, look for the applet & kill it (to be sure you have the right process)... then uninstall it
[21:54] <Kitty_> hahahaha make the impossible happens :)
[21:54] <`Korvin> Hey, I have to whipe my computer completely, how can I get a snapshot of all packages I hve installed?
[21:55] <Enkari> how do I run htop?
[21:55] <Enkari> I'm still a Linux newb :P
[21:55] <guntbert> !clone | `Korvin
[21:55] <myron_echos> can you open a terminal
[21:55] <Fyodorovna> Enkari, install it and in the terminal htop
[21:55] <pooltable_> help installed wine 1.5.0 ?
[21:55] <Chipzzz> Enkari: "sudo apt-get install htop" to install it and "htop" to run it
[21:56] <guntbert> pooltable: ask in #winehq please
[21:56] <`Korvin> thanks guntbert
[21:56] <Enkari> I'll do it now, cheers
[21:56] <Enkari> ah, does it matter that I'm on gnome right now?
[21:56] <velko_> `Korvin, if a list of all packages will suffice you can "sudo dpkg --get-selections". you can then mark exactly these packages for install with "sudo dpkg --set-selections"
[21:57] <Chipzzz> Enkari: gnome is fine... when htop is running, up & down arrows select processes, f9/Enter kills them
[21:58] <Enkari> So what am I trying to kill
[21:58] <Enkari> I'm guessing appmenu?
[21:58] <Chipzzz> Enkari: sounds right... try it, you won't hurt anything
[21:58] <lisakelly> how can I protect my private information on Ubuntu?  can I encrypt it or whats the best way?
[21:59] <Enkari> lisakelly: I think you could try and encrypt your home folder on a right click
[21:59] <KM0201> lisakelly: you don't encrypt the entire OS, you encrypt directories
[21:59] <lisakelly> so I dont need the alternative ISO and encrypt the whole file system?  I can just encrypt the home folder?
[21:59] <KM0201> the best way to protect yourself? disconnect yourself from the internet and live off the grid.
[22:00] <Chipzzz> Enkari: worst case, if you have to shut down the machine and start again from scratch, "sudo shutdown -P now"...
[22:00] <lisakelly> KM0201 is trolling me in private and telling me he has 10 years linux experience and only to listen to him and then he laughs at all my comments :(
[22:00] <Burnmoh> lol
[22:00] <KM0201> lisakelly: thats not what i said. i said if you needed help instalkling w/o the shitload of bad advice you were getting, let me know.
[22:00] <Shojo> lisakelly:  probably better not to keep sensitive data on your computer, but on CD/DVDs, but you could encrypt it, yes
[22:00] <Enkari> I couldn't see anything related to appmenu :(
[22:00] <lisakelly> KM0201: dont lie! you know what you told me.
[22:00] <Enkari> A few gnome-shells though
[22:00] <KM0201> lol, ok
[22:01] <Burnmoh> liksakelly move to cloud
[22:01] <Burnmoh> hehe
[22:01] <guntbert> lisakelly: no need to report that here - you can always /ignore someone
[22:01] <KM0201> guntbert: nothing to report really..
[22:01] <lisakelly> KM0201 was messaging me bragging about his 10 year Linux experience and then he began trolling me and mocking me and laughing at me.  Who is this guy?  Regular here? :(  His a meany
[22:01] <Kitty_> i dont get it . is this what u do ? linux advicers or smtn :D just curious
[22:01] <lisakelly> guntbert: ok
[22:02] <guntbert> Burnmoh: KM0201: please stop that bantering - lets keep this channel for support
[22:02] <KM0201> guntbert: not bantering
[22:02] <atomicfusion1> on a 11.10 liveusb, cryptsetup fails with any cipher with "device-mapper: readio ioctl failed: Invalid argument". i have loaded every driver in kernel/crypto. anyone know whats up?
[22:02] <loool> jjk
[22:02] <Burnmoh> guntbert got it :D
[22:02] <loool> hi
[22:02] <Shojo> Kitty_:  this is a help channel. Advices and problem solving, yes
[22:02] <loool> i'm on installation on 11.1 version
[22:02] <lisakelly> would it be better to get the alternative ISO and encrypt the whole file system or just get the regular ISO and encrypt the Home folder?
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> loool  you mean 11.10
[22:02] <loool> but computer hangs during installation
[22:02] <pooltable_> help installed wine 1.5.0 ?
[22:03] <loool> yep
[22:03] <Kitty_> :)
[22:03] <Shojo> lisakelly:  encrypt only sensitive data
[22:03] <Enkari> lisakelly: you can encrypt any folder, don't worry about encrypting the iso
[22:03] <loool> Copying files.... and Keyboard and mouse is not responding
[22:03] <lisakelly> Ok ty :)
[22:03] <Burnmoh> enkari what if system fails can we recover our encrypted data ?
[22:03] <guntbert> pooltable: why don't you ask in #winehq ?
[22:04] <Enkari> Pfft I don't know lol sorry Burnmoh
[22:04] <Enkari> If you can decrypt it yourself, I guess so
[22:04] <KM0201> that's why encrypting the whole filesystem is a bad idea.
[22:04] <Burnmoh> KM0201 right
[22:04] <pooltable_> guntbert thanks
[22:04] <atomicfusion1> KM0201: because it'sdificult to recover?
[22:04] <KM0201> atomicfusion1: no
[22:04] <Enkari> Right I noticed two applets running both named 'nm-applett'
[22:05] <itaylor57> you can't encrypt the whole thing, if you did you woundn't e able to boot
[22:05] <Enkari> Would that be anything to do with appmenu?
[22:05] <skinnux99> im trying to setup a 4 disk raid 1 array via my hardware controller
[22:05] <atomicfusion1> itaylor57: boot from usb
[22:05] <Chipzzz> Enkari: that's the network manager
[22:05] <mechanist> hello everyone
[22:05] <lisakelly> itaylor57: the Alternative ISO seems to have ability to encrypt the whole system, no?
[22:05] <Burnmoh> KM0201 does ubuntu generates any encryption key to decrypt the data after recovery
[22:05] <skinnux99> i can only select 'YES' to 2 disks being raid disks
[22:05] <skinnux99> but one of the extras can be a hot spare
[22:06] <skinnux99> should i make one a hot spare?
[22:06] <atomicfusion1> Burnmoh: not for dm-crypt
[22:06] <lisakelly> should I get 32 or 64bit Ubuntu ISO?  downloading now, not sure which one?
[22:06] <KM0201> Burnmoh: honestly, i don't mess w/ encryption that much... i just encrypt folders w/ cryptkeeper....
[22:06] <mechanist> I have a new hard disk, and when I try to install ubuntu, the installer doesn't see the partitions in it, how can I do?
[22:06] <Burnmoh> atomicfusion1 ok
[22:06] <Burnmoh> KM0201 ok
[22:06] <atomicfusion1> lisakelly depends on whether you have a 64bit or 32bit system
[22:06] <Enkari> Search if your Processor Model can handle 64bit OS's
[22:06] <lisakelly> atomicfusion1: its 64
[22:06] <Enkari> if you're not sure, you're safe to go with the 32bit version
[22:06] <Jordan_U> lisakelly: Then use the 64 bit version.
[22:07] <lisakelly> Enkari: im sure, its 64 bit and if its not then 64bit Ubuntu wont install?
[22:07] <Burnmoh> lisakelly what cpu you using ?
[22:07] <cylex> lisakelly: correct
[22:07] <wylde> lisakelly: in terminal lscpu | grep op-mode will tell you if you have 64 bit support
[22:07] <Enkari> I'm not sure if it won't install or will, but it won't run correctly
[22:07] <L3top> mechanist: what version ubuntu
[22:08] <Enkari> Just Google your processor name and 64bit at the end and see what comes up
[22:08] <L3top> mechanist: and how big is the drive
[22:08] <mechanist> 64 bit ocelot
[22:08] <lisakelly> I got a Intel i5 CPU
[22:08] <Enkari> Yeah that should take 64bit
[22:08] <cylex> lscpu |grep Arch
[22:08] <lisakelly> wylde: i cant type that command seeing I havent installed Ubuntu yet :)
[22:08] <mechanist> L3top: 64 bit ocelot, hard disk 500 GB
[22:08] <Burnmoh> lisakelly i think new generation intel cpu supports 64bits
[22:09] <lisakelly> ok thanks guys, i will download the 64bit ISO and select to encrypt HOME folder:)
[22:09] <wylde> lisakelly:  you could if you were oon a livecd :) but that's true
[22:09] <wylde> on*
[22:09] <sticky_fingers> it certainly does support 64bit
[22:09] <L3top> That clearly isnt the problem then... mechanist: is it a sata drive, and what are you using in bios for sata settings/mode
[22:09] <lisakelly> can I run the CD and it will create a dual boot for my Windows 7 on C:?  I need W7 to play my online game :)
[22:09] <Enkari> chazza or anyone who was listening: I can't see anything relating to appmenu in htop
[22:09] <duped> lisakelly, You sure can.
[22:09] <Burnmoh> lisakelly ya
[22:10] <mechanist> L3top: yes, it's a sata drive, but I don't know the bios settings about, I just know that in windows it runs perfectly, and I can see the partitions
[22:10] <lisakelly> kool :)  ok im off to download and install ubuntu. wish this chick good luck lol byeee
[22:10] <Enkari> gl :)
[22:10] <srand> lisakelly: why don't u run it under vmware
[22:10] <Enkari> ^
[22:10] <srand> lisakelly: in windows
[22:10] <Enkari> or maybe virtualbox if you have trouble :P
[22:10] <duped> lisakelly, Goodluck! You can also use Wubi if you find it too hard.
[22:11] <srand> lisakelly: you'll screw up your computer, with partitioning it
[22:11] <Burnmoh> lisakelly if u hv already win on ur machine get a ubuntu windows installer it works fine
[22:11] <srand> lisakelly: use vmware or wubi
[22:11] <lisakelly> duped: but Wubu isn't as secure or fast as running it on its own?
[22:11] <orionsonofneptun> is it normal for windows key to bring up launchpad
[22:11] <lisakelly> !wubi
[22:11] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu 11.10
[22:12] <duped> lisakelly, All it does is set it up for you. Wubi just sets up linux for install so you don't have to use a cdrom or usb.
[22:12] <Enkari> Are you on Unity or gnome orionsonofneptun?
[22:12] <duped> lisakelly, Check it out http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[22:12] <lisakelly> So Wubi wont need me to create 2 nw partitions?
[22:12] <Enkari> lisakelly: nope
[22:12] <Burnmoh> lisakelly wubi same as normal ubuntu version but it just writes its kernel on windows master boot loader
[22:12] <Burnmoh> thats the diff
[22:12] <orionsonofneptun> enkari i dont know what unity or gnome is please explain
[22:12] <Burnmoh> basically ubuntu creates its own boot loader
[22:13] <lisakelly> is wubi hard to remove if things go wrong?  And will pressing ESC key during POST still work?
[22:13] <atomicfusion1> Burnmoh: it really doesnt change the mbr or the pbr, it just adds an entry in c:\boot.ini
[22:13] <jonas_> hey, does anyone know what to to with this problem: as soon as i connect an external display to my notebook, cpu goes 100% and it's nearly impossible to use the machine. as soon as y disconnect the display, everything goes normal again... ??
[22:13] <Enkari> Unity and gnome are basically different environments, they change a style on your desktop
[22:13] <srand> lisakelly: from the control panel, u uninstall it
[22:13] <Enkari> Unity will have a sidebar on the left and an orb top left
[22:13] <Burnmoh> atomicfusion hmm
[22:13] <duped> lisakelly, It's easy to remove, don't worry.
[22:13] <lisakelly> duped: :)
[22:13] <orionsonofneptun> enkari how to tell difference???
[22:13] <velko_> lisakelly, i have never used wubi. but it seems that is more trouble then it's worth, judging by the complaints in this channel
[22:13] <atomicfusion1> lisakelly: wubi merely adds an entry in the existing windows bootloader that boots linux
[22:13] <lisakelly> Ok thanks, I will use Wupi instead.
[22:13] <atomicfusion1> lisakelly: there is almost no change of anything going wrong with wubi
[22:14] <srand> velko_: it used to be buggy
[22:14] <Enkari> Unity will have an orb in top left
[22:14] <Enkari> and sidebar on left
[22:14] <Burnmoh> i had used wubi its same as ubuntu no diff
[22:14] <Enkari> that's easiest way to tell
[22:14] <duped> lisakelly, Wubi is at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[22:14] <lisakelly> so where do I get the latest version of Wupi?
[22:14] <lisakelly> ok thanks
[22:14] <Burnmoh> but its easy to install and uninstall :)
[22:14] <atomicfusion1> lisakelly: it's on the ubuntu cd
[22:14] <orionsonofneptun> what does orb look like ubuntu emblem??
[22:14] <lisakelly> is duped a bot? :P
[22:14] <Enkari> Yes it does orion
[22:14] <duped> lisakelly, NOPE, I'm 100% human.
[22:15] <lisakelly> atomicfusion1: so how I tell Ubntu live cd to use Wubi?
[22:15] <orionsonofneptun> ok then its unity
[22:15] <wylde> Wubi is meant more for trying Ubuntu rather than as a permanent install. To each their own I suppose.
[22:15] <lisakelly> duped: just checking because you seem to answer my questions within 1 second lol :)
[22:15] <Enkari> When you press the windows button, it should by default open the dash
[22:15] <Enkari> which is the same as clicking the orb
[22:15] <Burnmoh> wubi is just nothing most windows user scared of being installing ubuntu so they made it easy to install and remove
[22:15] <duped> lisakelly, I actually was answering a previous question... and answered your question before your asked... more like a mind reader.
[22:15] <atomicfusion1> lisakelly: put the cd in after windows is running, go to "my computer" and autorun the disk
[22:15] <lisakelly> wylde: but if I use Wubi can I install Unbuntu permantely and use it properly and installed updates etc?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> lisakelly  no
[22:16] <lisakelly> duped: hheeh ;)
[22:16] <Enkari> lisakelly: yes you can update and all that
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> wubi is about the worst invention since television
[22:16] <duped> lisakelly, You can use Wubi and still update linux, install stuff, etc.
[22:16] <orionsonofneptun> it dont open dash it shows launchpad and puts numbers on every choice
[22:16] <Enkari> it's basically the same as having ubuntu installed normally
[22:16] <lisakelly> MonkeyDust: so what good is Wubi if I cannot use Ubuntu normally and install updates etc?
[22:16] <Burnmoh> lisakelly if your windows system fails ur wubi ubuntu also fails :P
[22:16] <KM0201> MonkeyDust: preach it
[22:16] <jonas_> no one can help?
[22:16] <Enkari> Well I can't help you there orion, sorry :(
[22:16] <wylde> lisakelly: if you decide after using a wubi install for a bit you can do a proper install later. but you will have to move any documents or files you have in the wubi install manually
[22:16] <pooltable_> help installed wine 1.5.0 ?
[22:16] <lisakelly> is MonkeyDust trolling me or is he serious?
[22:16] <KM0201> Burnmoh: or, if ubuntu fails, your windows also fails
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> lisakelly  wubi is good if you have 5 minutes to go and look what ubuntu looks like
[22:17] <Shojo> no, he is serious
[22:17] <duped> MonkeyDus just hates window$
[22:17] <atomicfusion1> lisakelly: i think that the only difference in performance between ubuntu and wubi is that wibu will have somewhat slower disk read/write
[22:17] <Shojo> wubi is windows based so... not too good
[22:17] <Burnmoh> KM0201 not in the case of wubi installing  , only at direct install :P
[22:17] <mechanist> I have a new hard disk, and when I try to install ubuntu, the installer doesn't see the partitions in it, how can I do?
[22:17]  * KM0201 chuckles
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> if wubi were as good as a real install, there would be no need for a real installation
[22:18]  * dlentz feels like we need a good clearchan ;P
[22:18] <Enkari> wubi is also good for those who worry about dual-booting
[22:18] <velko_> mechanist, maybe there aren't any partitions if this is a new hard disk?
[22:18] <Burnmoh> wubi made installation easy for windows users thats all lol
[22:18] <atomicfusion1> MonkeyDust: yes there would, for people who dont have windows already or dont want to keep it
[22:18] <orionsonofneptun> how to use ubuntu 11.10 to erase files on usb drive thumb
[22:18] <duped> For clarification, a "real install" includes the GRUB bootloader...
[22:19] <mechanist> velko_: the hard disk contains data in it, and it's already partitioned
[22:19] <KM0201> orionsonofneptun: gparted is the easiest way
[22:19] <orionsonofneptun> i right click file and  the window has no erase option
[22:19] <KM0201> orionsonofneptun: right
[22:19] <KM0201> sudo apt-get install gparted
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> atomicfusion1  how many people is that?
[22:19] <orionsonofneptun> km0201 what is gparted
[22:19] <atomicfusion1> MonkeyDust: me?
[22:20] <KM0201> orionsonofneptun: its a partition tool
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> atomicfusion1  that's 1
[22:20] <duped> MonkeyDust, I'm 2.
[22:20] <atomicfusion1> MonkeyDust: dont forget that i have it on ~4 computers
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> and counting
[22:20] <orionsonofneptun> why do i need to partition anything
[22:20] <meerkats> I just created my first partition with gparted on a usb stick, are there some files that are more likely to be damaged in the process of shriking a partition or creating a new one?
[22:20] <velko_> mechanist, are you trying to install to this drive? or you are intending to mount it later and use it as a data store?
[22:20] <meerkats> so far everything looks normal, just mp4 files
[22:20] <KM0201> orionsonofneptun: you don't, but it will format your thumb drive
[22:20] <orionsonofneptun> i need to erase thumb drive files i dont need partition
[22:20] <atomicfusion1> MonkeyDust so surely i count as at least 400 people
[22:20] <KM0201> orionsonofneptun: pay attention..
[22:21] <Jordan_U> lisakelly: A wubi installation can do anything that a normal dual boot installation can do, and in theory it's a great idea with few downsides. In reality though there are too few developers interested in it which leads to difficult to solve problems. Most recommend against Wubi and in favor of a normal dual boot install.
[22:21] <atomicfusion1> on a 11.10 liveusb, cryptsetup fails with any cipher with "device-mapper: readio ioctl failed: Invalid argument". i have loaded every driver in kernel/crypto. anyone know whats up?
[22:21] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu is worthless if i cant click on a file to erase it dangit
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> orionsonofneptun  it's the right mouse button
[22:21] <duped> orionsonofneptun, Click move to Trash or click the delete button.
[22:22] <orionsonofneptun> its not a option on this os
[22:22] <Shojo> orionsonofneptun:  just press Del button
[22:22] <orionsonofneptun> i right click and the window dont display erase option
[22:22] <duped> orionsonofneptun, It's the "Move to Trash" option
[22:22] <orionsonofneptun> why are so many things not right here
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> orionsonofneptun  because you're not familiar with it
[22:23] <duped> orionsonofneptun, It's not that it's not "right", but rather, different
[22:23] <Shojo> myep. they're all ok, probably, you're just unfamiliarised
[22:23] <Macaroni> what's the difference between choosing "run" or "run in terminal" when running an executable text file?
[22:24] <Shojo> Macaroni: in terminal you can see all processes
[22:24] <Macaroni> Shojo: that's the only difference?
[22:25] <Shojo> depends on the program you're running
[22:25] <orionsonofneptun> no its so i cant use it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[22:25] <Shojo> orionsonofneptun:  what can't you use?
[22:25] <Burnmoh> guys if i press ctrl + alt + f1  in ubuntu suddenly text based mode appears is there any short keys or command to back to graphical user mode without restarting the system ?
[22:25] <xangua> orionsonofneptun: used to be a format option on gnome2, no idea if you need to install something for gnome3 or it has not been implemented Yet http://i.imgur.com/XVnVI.jpg
[22:25] <xangua> complain is also not the best way here
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> orionsonofneptun  then it's you, it's not the system
[22:25] <velko_> Macaroni, i guess the option "run in terminal" is for applications which does not have a gui and are not opening a new graphical window for themselves. else there is no difference
[22:25] <Shojo> lol MonkeyDust
[22:26] <cincinnatus> Does anything big ever run on Ubuntu servers in production? What I typically see is Ubuntu on some developer machines (Windows on others) and RedHat in production
[22:26] <wirkolaqs> Can I get help here?
[22:26] <Shojo> orionsonofneptun:  you need to calm down and be rational if you want to operate a computer, rushing things will make you do wrong stuff
[22:26] <atomicfusion1> Burnmoh: ctl+alt+f7
[22:26] <orionsonofneptun> oh yeah its the system hating me thats for shure it changes and all of you change with it thats not fair ive done nothing wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:26] <Shojo> wirkolaqs:  one can only hope :) But ,sure, yeah. what it the problem?
[22:27] <wirkolaqs> no Internet connection
[22:27] <vlt> Where can I put a command that has to be run immediately after logging in and pulse has started for every user (including guest)?
[22:27] <orionsonofneptun> you people dont understand im sorry
[22:27] <wirkolaqs> on live cd I had
[22:27] <Shojo> orionsonofneptun:  You are just unaware of what you did do, calm down, noone hates you
[22:27] <Macaroni> velko_: ok, thanks
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> orionsonofneptun  we learned and got used to it, that's differend
[22:27] <Burnmoh> atomicfusion ya sorry its cntrl + alt + f7 , but revert it back to graphical mode
[22:27] <orionsonofneptun> ok then
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> t
[22:27] <wirkolaqs> but after installation I don't have
[22:27] <Burnmoh> how to*
[22:27] <Shojo> wirkolaqs:  what did you use to install?
[22:27] <lisakelly> ok im back.. so wubi aint any good if I want to keep using Ubuntu and do updates etc... any other solution?
[22:28] <atomicfusion1> Burnmoh: no, ctl+alt+f? changes through vts. 1-6 are terminals, 7 is graphical (usually)
[22:28] <Shojo> wirkolaqs: Did you use the ISO or DVD?
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> lisakelly  install ubuntu
[22:28] <wirkolaqs> DVD
[22:28] <atomicfusion1> Burnmoh: so ctl+alt+f1 will bring u to text, ctl+alt+f7 should put u back in graphics
[22:28] <xangua> !dualboot | lisakelly like i firs said 30 minutes ago
[22:28] <KM0201> man, i'm sad i won't be here to watch the trainwreck that is going to ensue tonight, but... i gotta work for a living
[22:28] <KM0201> be safe all.
[22:28] <Shojo> lisakelly:  Install in dual boot
[22:29] <Burnmoh> atomicfusion1 let me give a try lol
[22:29] <Shojo> there are some steps to do that, it's not very straight forward
[22:29] <Enkari> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11773388#post11773388 Come on guys, help us out :P
[22:29] <wirkolaqs> Shojo DVD
[22:29] <myron_echos> what is chanserv
[22:29] <oconnore> ~
[22:29] <atomicfusion1> myron_echos: that's irc, not ubuntu
[22:30] <Chipzzz> Enkari: i thought you had the answer... you didn't find the process?
[22:30] <Ampix0> hey guys, ubuntu noob. Made a folder in the root using terminal but I need to move files into it, is there a way to give access to it? GUI is fine too
[22:30] <Burnmoh> atomic fusion1 cool man its working
[22:30] <Enkari> Nope I didn't :(
[22:30] <Chipzzz> :(
[22:30] <Enkari> I just saw a lot of 'gnome-shell' commands
[22:30] <Burnmoh> actually me just pressing f7 lol , forgot add ctrl + alt lol
[22:31] <Enkari> Might just remove gnome and reinstall it
[22:31] <Chipzzz> Enkari: try and f3 search for 'menu' in htop
[22:31] <wylde> Ampix0: is there a reason you need the directory to not be in your home folder?
[22:31] <myron_echos> well i have chanserv in the notifications but i want to be able to chat in it
[22:31] <Ampix0> wylde not particularly but esier for me in ssh is all
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> Ampix0  outside /home you need sudo, so first get used to ubuntu inside /home
[22:31] <oconnore> Hi, I just installed an ubuntu AMI on amazon ec2, and can't ssh in
[22:31] <oconnore> any ideas?
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> oconnore  you need openssh-server and -client
[22:32] <Enkari> Yeah there's nothing in there
[22:32] <wylde> Ampix0: not really, if you're logging in as the same user, it defaults to your home directory then
[22:32] <sticky_fingers> Ampix0: you can use "mv" command in terminal. Type "man mv" for more help.
[22:32] <duped> Ampix0, why not just use ~/Path/To/File
[22:32] <Ampix0> ok ill move to home
[22:32] <oconnore> MonkeyDust: how do I install a package if I don't have access to the server?
[22:32] <wylde> Ampix0: and you won't need to mess with permissions either
[22:33] <Ampix0> no reason to complicate things lol
[22:33] <Ampix0> thanks guys
[22:33] <Enkari> Chipzzz: I'm going to remove gnome and reinstall it, be back in a bit :P
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> oconnore  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here for advice
[22:33] <Chipzzz> Enkari: good luck :)
[22:34] <oconnore> MonkeyDust: I was booting a new amazon ec2 instance with ubuntu on it.
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> oconnore  great, what went wrong and when?
[22:35] <oconnore> MonkeyDust: I freed port 22 in the firewall and still can't ssh in.
[22:35] <oconnore> when = immediately
[22:36] <wirkolaqs> I have no Internet connection on Ubuntu, but I had it within installation - can sb help me?
[22:36] <wylde> oconnore: I don't think the sshd service is installed/enabled by default, although I could be wrong
[22:37] <Chipzzz> oconnore: can you issue shell commands to the ubuntu through a control panel of some sort? (oconnore: you're correct)
[22:37] <Chipzzz> sorry... wylde: you're correct
[22:37] <wylde> Chipzzz: go to know.
[22:37] <wylde> err good*
[22:38] <BenGuillon> Hi, i've upgraded to LTS 10.04 and now the kernel nvidia module load fails. Any idea to fix it?
[22:38] <Chipzzz> wylde: lol... would have been better for oconnore if you weren't
[22:39] <wylde> Chipzzz: very true, I'm just trying to think of a way to include that package without having to customize an iso >.<
[22:40]  * tommylommykins is wondering if anyone here has had success using XDMX with modern ubuntu
[22:40]  * tommylommykins doesn't know whether he's getting it all wrong, or it's actually broken
[22:40] <Enkari> hoorah!
[22:40] <Chipzzz> wylde: i haven't set up an ec2 instance but it's hard to believe they don't make some provision to communicate with it when you do
[22:40] <oconnore> Chipzzz: the server lives in a datacenter in virginia, I can't exactly go hook up a keyboard/monitor :P
[22:41] <wylde> BenGuillon: have you tried re-installing the nvidia driver?
[22:41] <Enkari> I realised that there was one thing that wasn't being removed
[22:41] <Enkari> I think it was the qt appmenu
[22:41] <BenGuillon> wylde: yes, the nvidia-current, but still fails
[22:42] <wylde> BenGuillon: I believe you can use jockey-cli if you need to get the proprietary drivers from Ubuntu repos
[22:42] <wylde> BenGuillon: ahh ok :(
[22:42] <Chipzzz> oconnore: is there a control panel for the instance?
[22:42] <vadi_> How can I enable VNC on a laptop to which I'm connected via SSH? (the monitor is dead)
[22:42] <Enkari> vadi: press alt+t to open terminal
[22:42] <ubuntu> Guys I have a special which is as follows, I have accidentally removed my partition table from my sole HD, I managed to retrieve the partition table and got the files but the partition table is a bit distorted but the data are intact. What to do to retrieve the data and the OS installation files without the need to repartition and reformat the HD?
[22:42] <Khanna_Param> hi
[22:43] <Enkari> and install vnc in terminal
[22:43] <ubuntu> Special problem I mean
[22:43] <vadi_> there is no vnc package, which one did you mean
[22:43] <vadi_> vnc4server?
[22:43] <Enkari> I'll have a look for you vadi :P
[22:44] <wubino> has anyone successfully upgraded 11.10 to 12.04b over ssh?
[22:44] <BenGuillon> wylde: in this release the GUI doesn't tell there third-party drivers. It was the case in LTS 8.04
[22:44] <wubino> server edition
[22:44] <OerHeks> wubino, 12.04 isn't out yet, join #Ubuntu+1 for support & Q
[22:45] <Khanna_Param> My friend has installed ubuntu on his Lenovo PC, there is a problem he is facing with the sound driver. Each time he plug-in his headphone jack, he has to change the output of the sound. Is there any solutions available?
[22:45] <wylde> BenGuillon: I never used 8.04, I was still on pure debian stable then heh.
[22:45] <Enkari> vadi: enter 'sudo aptitude install tightvncserver'
[22:45] <ovechkin> i followed the instructions for creating a bootable usb disk from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download but the disk isnt being recognized once im done. anyone have experience with this?
[22:45] <wubino> ok, thanks did not know about that channel
[22:45] <OerHeks> wubino it is the place to be :-)
[22:45] <ubuntu> does 80 GB = 74 GiB? what is the difference between GB and GiB? Does the first and second stand for Gegabit and Gegabyte respectively?
[22:46] <wylde> BenGuillon: so you tried jockey? or perhaps the nvidia drivers from their site?
[22:46] <BenGuillon> wylde: anyway the jockey stuff doesn't help
[22:46] <Chipzzz> oconnore: although you didn't answer me, let me suggest something that may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[22:46] <vadi_> Trying out tightvncserver. I also set some options on the remote desktop settings UI like manual confirmation, I wonder if I can undo that via ssh
[22:47] <skinnux99> im trying to net install ubuntu server from the files at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/oneiric/
[22:47] <skinnux99> but i dont see anything server specific
[22:47] <skinnux99> i went through the install process but still didnt see any real server options
[22:48] <Lordveda> Ok
[22:48] <wylde> BenGuillon: ok, my only other suggestion is getting drivers right from NVidia, I've had few problems with them, other than having to reinstall the driver on a kernel upgrade.
[22:48] <ro_70s> hey -- how can I add a delay to the rotate cube effect when the mouse comes to the edge in compiz?
[22:48] <ovechkin> Lordveda: 1 GB = 10^9 bytes, 1 GiB 2^30 bytes
[22:49] <jonallbin> any Linux geeks out there?
[22:49] <cipher__> Can anyone help me get the opengl 4.1 headers?
[22:49] <jonallbin> or nners should I say
[22:49] <ro_70s> how can I add a delay to the rotate cube effect in compiz when the mouse comes to the edge?
[22:50] <toygarden> jonallbin: nners?
[22:50] <cipher__> I have only came across 1.x, which is sort of hard to code with
[22:50] <jonallbin> *nerds
[22:50] <BenGuillon> wylde: thanks for the proposal, it's a pity that a packaged distribution uses wrong driver version. Strange since my card isn't new at all. Will look at the web.
[22:50] <jonallbin> sorry
[22:50] <jonallbin> fat fingers
[22:50] <toygarden> jonallbin: yes
[22:50] <Fyodorovna> !ask | jonallbin
[22:50] <wylde> Chipzzz: late response, but I agree
[22:50] <jonallbin> jeez
[22:50] <toygarden> :)
[22:50] <jonallbin> ubottu, why are you so bossy?
[22:50] <pfifo> why do jet engines have a debian logo on them?
[22:50] <Chipzzz> :)
[22:51] <Myrtti> pfifo, you really know better...
[22:51] <jonallbin> ubotto, what are the square roots of i? Where i is the square root of -1.
[22:51] <ro_70s> how can I add a delay to the rotate cube effect in compiz when the mouse comes to the edge?
[22:51] <cipher__> !stop | jonallbin
[22:51] <jonallbin> lol
[22:51] <Fyodorovna> jonallbin, the point is this is not a chat channel it is ubuntu support.
[22:51] <jonallbin> sorry
[22:51] <ro_70s> speaking of which
[22:51] <ro_70s> how can I add a delay to the rotate cube effect in compiz when the mouse comes to the edge?
[22:51] <jonallbin> I have a genuine question
[22:51] <toygarden> jonallbin: so what did you wonder about?
[22:52] <jonallbin> but it involves OpenVPN
[22:52] <jonallbin> and Ubuntu
[22:52] <jonallbin> basically
[22:52] <jonallbin> I'm trying to run OpenVPN serve on my machien in ubuntu
[22:52] <jonallbin> and connect to it using my Android phone
[22:52] <toygarden> i know nothing of VPN, sorry
[22:52] <jonallbin> has anyone had any luck in doing this/
[22:52] <ro_70s> how can I add a delay to the rotate cube effect in compiz when the mouse comes to the edge?
[22:53] <jonallbin> ubottu, How do I configure OpenVPN as server in Ubuntu?
[22:53] <gear4> jonallbin, I know how to
[22:53] <gear4> Not really exactly
[22:53] <gear4> But I know roundabout how to
[22:53] <yorkshireripper> sure
[22:53] <ro_70s> how can I add a delay to the rotate cube effect in compiz when the mouse comes to the edge?
[22:53] <yorkshireripper> please point me in direction gear4
[22:53] <yorkshireripper> lol
[22:53] <gear4> kk
[22:53] <Chipzzz> !patience | ro_70s
[22:54] <gear4> which OS ?
[22:54] <ro_70s> it hasnt been quick but thank you -- 5 minutes of asking and not one person has acknoweldged
[22:54] <orionsonofneptun> back
[22:54] <yorkshireripper> Ubuntu
[22:54] <gear4> Version ?
[22:54] <ro_70s> this used to be a place where if no one responded in 1-2 minutes it was a miracle
[22:55] <Khanna_Param> Hi, how to fix the issue with sound driver, lenovo laptop:- has to manually change the output to external sound when adding the headphone. Ubuntu 10.04
[22:55] <gear4> yorkshireripper, Version of Ubuntu ??
[22:55] <gear4> (i meant that, not OS)
[22:55] <velko_> ro_70s, will you feel cozier if 1540 people say "i don't know how to help you"? nobody answers your question because nobody who looks right now on the screen knows
[22:55] <orionsonofneptun> ok i also have uptime issues i need my system online 24/7 to run my bots when ever i walk away the thing wont do anything i have no choice but reboot  I CANT HAVE THAT HAPPEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> ro_70s, 10 min repeats are the channel suggestion, look in compiz for the settings or also try compiz
[22:56] <ro_70s> velko_: well for one thing, I would feel cosier if you didnt start up arguemtns with me when you apparently dont understand my question
[22:56] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu 11.10 should never need reboot thats why i got it
[22:57] <matti_> im having issues with "sudo apt-get update".  i get the following error: "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/InRelease". can someone help me?
[22:57] <wylde> orionsonofneptun: actually if you want a stable system use the LTS releases...
[22:58] <orionsonofneptun> what are the lts realeases
[22:58] <gear4> Long Term Support releases
[22:58] <gear4> I think one is 10.04
[22:58] <wylde> orionsonofneptun: the last on was 10.04, and when precise is released it will be the newest LTS release
[22:58] <velko_> ro_70s, don't misunderstand me. i'm not starting an argument with you. i'm just pointing out that to you why you get no response. for you in order to not feel alone. if i understand your question is beside the point
[22:58] <gear4> Yes
[23:00] <toygarden> so what happened to the gnome display manager? how can I shut it down? used to do something like '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' in ubuntu 10.04, but can't find my way around now.
[23:00] <skinnux99> i just installed ubuntu over the network on a server, but am just getting a blank screen after installation
[23:00] <gear4> toygarden, I don't think you can
[23:00] <skinnux99> right after i enter the password for encrypted lvm
[23:00] <gear4> But, why would you ?
[23:00] <jta> howdy, I am runnin 11.10 on a dual boot with windows...and it seems that my time clock on ubuntu is ok except when I exit it sets it to utc and windows is -8 when I boot back...any suggestions?
[23:00] <skinnux99> i just get a blinking _
[23:00] <skinnux99> :(
[23:00] <toygarden> gear4: of course we can
[23:00] <matti_> anyone know how i can fix this error when doing an apt-get update? " "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/InRelease""
[23:00] <gear4> You mean, change it ?
[23:00] <myron_echos1> the notification only gives me chanserv, can't i chat in #ubuntu in the notification area?
[23:01] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, you know the graphic driver
[23:01] <gear4> toygarden, You mean, change it ?
[23:01] <trism> toygarden: which ubuntu version? 11.10 defaults to lightdm instead of gdm, sudo stop lightdm; will stop it
[23:01] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, or card actually.
[23:01] <gear4> trism, ye
[23:01] <toygarden> trism: ok. thank you
[23:01] <skinnux99> Fyodorovna: well its a sun x4100 server
[23:01] <skinnux99> i would hopefully like to set it up without an graphic
[23:01] <skinnux99> but throughout installation i was not prompted for any server or non-gui options
[23:02] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, graphic is not needed I would guess persay
[23:02] <gear4> skinnux99, then you should've gotten the server release ?
[23:02] <gear4> Desktop won't prompt for server option
[23:02] <Trashi> hi. i wrote a small bash script which loads correct xorg configuration for "single display" and "dual display" by detecting how many displays are attached. is it possible to run such a script automaticly after a device was plugged in?
[23:03] <skinnux99> i installed over the network, i just booted from this file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[23:03] <wylde> Trashi: I believe that's handled by udev
[23:03] <Trashi> wylde: thanks, i will look for that
[23:03] <gear4> skinnux99, you should've downloaded the release
[23:03] <gear4> I think the online one is desktop version
[23:04] <skinnux99> so i should download the server iso then extract that?
[23:04] <Ampix0> issue. Following a tutorial. I am at the  point where I am supposed to check to make sure java went in correctly by typing "java -version" shell returns "bash: /usr/bin/java:cannot execute binary file"  I am supposed to see "java version 1.7.0"
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, 16.5 mib looks like a net install.
[23:05] <vubuntor354> hi all
[23:05] <pfifo> Is there any application I can use to organize my photos?
[23:05] <l2osati> is there a way to list files, subdirectories, and the files within the subdirectories from the terminal?
[23:05] <pfifo> l2osati, try 'find'
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, did you install what is needed for the server?
[23:05] <escott> l2osati, tree
[23:05] <esotera> l20sati <ls -R> would also work
[23:06] <skinnux99> Fyodorovna: i didnt really have much choice of what to install
[23:06] <trism> pfifo: shotwell isn't bad, I also like gthumb for photos I already have organized in directories
[23:06] <skinnux99> it seemed like it downloaded a fair amount of packages
[23:06] <skinnux99> *shrug*
[23:06] <vubuntor354> this irc using an connect with my mobile phone
[23:06] <vubuntor354> firefox internet ok
[23:06] <l2osati> woooo! Thanks guys. I kept using ls -r (lowercase)
[23:06] <Ampix0> any clue on this? "java -version" shell returns "bash: /usr/bin/java:cannot execute binary file"
[23:07] <vubuntor354> but "sudo apt-get update" no internet conected
[23:07] <vubuntor354> any idea for fix it
[23:07] <vubuntor354> thank
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, Ah, I am thinking opf the mini ISO in general, I have never seen a tar.gz of the server as a net install personally.
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> *of
[23:07] <gear4> me off
[23:07] <escott> pfifo, shotwell gthumb and others
[23:08] <skinnux99> Fyodorovna do you know how i can boot the iso over the network?
[23:08] <Fyodorovna> skinnux99, not really I have never needed a network so I am not familiar.
[23:09] <pfifo> trism, escott, im loking for some specific features, #1 the ability to tag images for searching later on, and the ability to remove duplicate images
[23:09] <Burnmoh> fyodorovna use TFTP protocol  and Bootstrap protocol :)
[23:10] <Fyodorovna> Burnmoh, skinnux99 would need that.
[23:10] <Burnmoh> fyodorovna oh ! wrong msg :)
[23:10] <Fyodorovna> ;)
[23:10] <Burnmoh> skinnux99 got it ?
[23:11] <trism> pfifo: shotwell has tagging (actually gthumb does too in a way, not as easy to use as shotwell though), not sure about duplicate removal
[23:11] <dooglus> I just asked 'software sources' to pick the best mirror for me.  it picked one in New Zealand, but I'm in Canada.  How can that be?
[23:12] <pfifo> dooglus, well obivously your wrong, you must have moved to new zealand and havent realiezd it yet
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> dooglus, the server answered a ping the fastest.
[23:12] <dooglus> pfifo: that's a possibility
[23:12] <dooglus> Fyodorovna: are you sure it uses ping?
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> dooglus, what does it matter really.
[23:13] <dooglus> Fyodorovna: if it does, that might explain things.  I can't ping mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca at all - can you?
[23:13] <dooglus> Fyodorovna: I'd like it to pick a fast local mirror
[23:13] <vubuntor354> hi all
[23:14] <Jeruvy> dooglus, you will not succeed pinging ucalgary.ca
[23:14] <dooglus> Jeruvy: because it doesn't respond to pings
[23:14] <dooglus> ?
[23:14] <vubuntor354> i used an internet through by my mobile phone
[23:14] <Jeruvy> dooglus correct
[23:15] <vubuntor354> an "sudo apt-get update"
[23:15] <dooglus> Jeruvy: does that mean 'software sources' will never pick it as the faster mirror?  or doesn't software-sources really use ping?
[23:15] <vubuntor354> it return nointernet connect
[23:15] <vubuntor354> web browser to repo ok
[23:15] <Jeruvy> dooglus, thats a good question you should ask someone more knowledgable about the repositories and mirrors.  I think they use a http method but I may well be wrong.
[23:16] <dooglus> Jeruvy: I'm wondering why it would think that a server on the opposite side of the planet is the best...  probably that indicates a bug I'd think
[23:17] <Jeruvy> dooglus, I can only shrug to that comment ;)
[23:20] <bsdfox_> hello, I'm having trouble getting a service to autostart on boot using upstart. I'm not sure what I need besides the config file in /etc/init and the symlink in /etc/init.d
[23:20] <pfifo> triscuit, this shot well thing doesnt really cut it, i have too many photos for it to handle
[23:22] <Fyodorovna> bsdfox_, what is it?
[23:22] <pfifo> triscuit, disregard that
[23:23] <TheFizzMeister> Hello Ubuntu people. I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and I'm having some trouble with video and, presumably, video drivers.
[23:23] <scientes> I used ubuntu's kernel config to compile my own kernel (i did use oldconfig too)
[23:23] <scientes> and not i cant use ptrace, even as root
[23:24] <pfifo> escott, what others?
[23:24] <TheFizzMeister> Basically, video on stuff like VLC won't work unless I'm moving it or resizing it. Works on Youtube and etc. though.
[23:24] <escott> check synaptic or the software center it should have some good suggestions
[23:24] <TheFizzMeister> I tried editing the xorg.conf file with some stuff I found on Google, and that made video work, but my resolution got all funky.
[23:24] <scientes> TheFizzMeister, what driver are you using, and ubuntu version?
[23:25] <TheFizzMeister> Ubuntu is 11.10.
[23:25] <TheFizzMeister> How can I find out the driver?
[23:25] <pfifo> escott, I dont have either of those installed
[23:25] <scientes> TheFizzMeister, additional drivers in system settings
[23:26] <vlt> vlt: You can put the script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ to be run each time a user logs in.
[23:26] <scientes> tell me what it lists, and if what it lists is enabled or not
[23:26] <Fyodorovna> TheFizzMeister, if you have run a update look in additional drivers
[23:26] <Precognist> lo people!
[23:26] <Precognist> im back
[23:26] <TheFizzMeister> It says, 'No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.'
[23:27] <TheFizzMeister> I also have an embedded video card on this laptop. It's SiS.
[23:28] <dr3mro> is there a counter for ubuntu users ?
[23:29] <Precognist> pamusb on ubuntu server 10.10?
[23:29] <Precognist> i have no idea how to get it running on 11.10
[23:29] <dr3mro> I want to know how much ubuntu users are in my country (EGYPT) .. so we can gather
[23:29] <Precognist> something about deb packages
[23:31] <TheFizzMeister> So, what are my options if Additional Drivers isn't helping?
[23:33] <haz3lnut> I used to be able to right click a file and click properties to be able to choose "Open With". then I could select any program on the system to open the file.  Now in nautilus 3.2.1 I can;t do that.  It's a predefined list.  Anyone know how I can fix that?
[23:33] <esotera> TheFizzMeister you could attempt downloading the required packages using synaptic or apt
[23:33] <TheFizzMeister> What required packages?
[23:34] <chalcedony> i'm trying to figure out why my husband gets an error in ubuntu 10.10, so we put the live cd in, and i wanted to pastebinit something.. only it doesn't have pastebinit and even after i de-commented universe - it still says pastebinit doesn't exist. - anyone?
[23:34] <Fyodorovna> TheFizzMeister, if you run in the terminal lspci your card will be listed post the info for the channel.
[23:34] <IanWizard-Cloud> How can I disable automount?  Not just auto-opening drives, but disabling automount.
[23:34] <Fyodorovna> the card that is fizz
[23:34] <pfifo> chalcedony, run apt-get update
[23:34] <chalcedony> pfifo, ahh!
[23:35] <Fyodorovna> TheFizzMeister, ^^^
[23:35] <TheFizzMeister> http://pastebin.com/uAFtsgJz Here's the lspci info.
[23:35] <jen> halp
[23:35] <Fyodorovna> IanWizard-Cloud, what is it you don't want mounted could it be external devices?
[23:36] <escott> IanWizard-Cloud, remove yourself from plugdev
[23:36] <IanWizard-Cloud> Fyodorovna: yes
[23:36] <escott> IanWizard-Cloud, or add an entry to fstab
[23:36] <IanWizard-Cloud> No, it's not that I don't want to be able to mount them
[23:36] <jen> umm so Im on gnome right now and I have a looooot of updates but it demands a partial update, after I do that it has this thing that pops up saying it will take five hours :(
[23:36] <jen> should I just go to unity to do everything?
[23:36] <IanWizard-Cloud> but I have a usb device, that I need to not automount
[23:37] <IanWizard-Cloud> and it's got 37 partitions on it, so if I could just disable the automount service, that would be prefered.
[23:37] <chalcedony> "Something wicked happened resolving 'name of file heree' (-5 No address associated with hostname)
[23:37] <toygarden> byobu reports that my cpu temp is 16C. judging by the sound of the fan it's probably above 80C
[23:37] <TheFizzMeister> I ran apt-get update, and checked Additional Drivers again. Nothing.
[23:37] <haz3lnut> I used to be able to right click a file and click properties to be able to choose "Open With". then I could select any program on the system to open the file.  Now in nautilus 3.2.1 I can't do that.  It's a predefined list.  Anyone know how I can fix that?
[23:38] <TheFizzMeister> I did look up Linux drivers, and it seems the only drivers there for my video card are Redhat drivers from 2002.
[23:38] <chalcedony> hm trying something
[23:38] <TheFizzMeister> So I don't think there are actually any proprietary drivers for it, and I wasn't able to find any info about open source ones.
[23:38] <tbws> hey guys, is there a way to empty the contents of a text file in the terminal?
[23:39] <haz3lnut> tbws: echo "" > mytextfile.txt
[23:39] <tbws> ty
[23:40] <OerHeks> TheFizzMeister, maybe this answer is any help ( shown for shuttle, but same video chip ) >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55892/how-can-i-get-video-working-properly-on-my-shuttle-ss30g2
[23:40] <Fyodorovna> IanWizard-Cloud you can turn off the prompt if that helps in system settingsdetails-removable media, not sure about a no actual mount.
[23:40] <Fyodorovna>  system settings-details-removable media*
[23:40] <IanWizard-Cloud> Fyodorovna: nope, already did that, still mounts
[23:40] <IanWizard-Cloud> just no popup
[23:40] <TheFizzMeister> Yep, I tried that already.
[23:40] <jen> what the heck is doing a partial upgrade and should I do it??????
[23:40] <TheFizzMeister> Video will work when I try it with 'driver "vesa"' as he suggests.
[23:41] <wylde> IanWizard-Cloud: look into udev, I believe it handles auto mounting usb devices
[23:41] <TheFizzMeister> The thing is, I end up with a weird resolution, only two available choices to change it to, and white horizontal lines periodically show up.
[23:41] <TheFizzMeister> Especially when updating windows.
[23:41] <zykotick9> jen NO! "partial upgrade" translates to "your system is going to break"
[23:41] <haz3lnut> I'll ask a different way:  How can I associate a bash script with a *.tvvi file to open automagically when I double click it?
[23:41] <Fyodorovna> jen, partial upgrades are not realy advised try later or tomorrow the package and dependencies need to hit the repo
[23:42] <chalcedony> Run sudo fdisk -l to find your Ubuntu partition and it's location (for example, /dev/sda5
[23:42] <chalcedony> Run sudo e2fsck -f /dev/<nameofyourpartition>. - all he has on it is ubuntu and files - where to start?
[23:42] <haz3lnut> jen: you probably have broken packages.
[23:42] <jen> okay
[23:42] <jen> so what do I do?
[23:42] <itaylor57> jen, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:43] <jen> smash my computer and cry in a corner?
[23:43] <jen> ocelet
[23:43] <TheFizzMeister> I'm basically a newbie to Linux, so I don't have any idea what the xorg.conf file is for, let alone if there's any changes I could make to it, different from his suggestion, that would help me.
[23:43] <wylde> chalcedony: what is it you want to do?
[23:43] <haz3lnut> jen: at the terminal type "aptitude"  then ctrl-T  and selct cancel pending actions.
[23:43] <jen> um okay
[23:44] <jen> I need to install it?
[23:44] <scientes>  i've got a working multiseat system
[23:44] <jta> edit /etc/default/rcS and change the line UTC=yes to UTC=no
 it took me a while but I found it on my own....I may adjust windows later so ubuntu can run on utc...but for now it's a quick fix for my new dual boot...
[23:44] <haz3lnut> aptitude?  I dind;t think so.
[23:44] <scientes> however my seat doesn't see the sound card
[23:45] <scientes> either main sound, or HDMI sound
[23:45] <jen> it says it cannot be found
[23:45] <scientes> *seat1 (second seat)
[23:45] <itaylor57> jen, you are fine just wait until the repos get caught up
[23:45] <jen> so...um
[23:45] <jen> now the heck will i know when it is fixed? I have a buttload of updates
[23:46] <chalcedony> wylde, the initial problem my husband has in 10.10 is that it won't boot, after the login he gets an error: Install Warning The configuration defaults for Gnome Power Manager have not been installed correctly.
[23:46] <chalcedony> wylde, further i am able to ssh to the box, and login ok ,but he can't with the gui.
[23:47] <chalcedony> wylde, also, we tried the live cd, which is in now.
[23:47] <pfifo> chalcedony, sounds like you have some stale configs in /home
[23:48] <chalcedony> pfifo, humm? http://askubuntu.com/questions/57159/the-configuration-defaults-for-gnome-power-manager-have-not-been-installed-corre
[23:48] <jen> ???
[23:48] <chalcedony> we tried their instruction to remove and replace gnome-power-manager
[23:49] <chalcedony> didn't change much
[23:49] <wylde> chalcedony: did you try removing and reinstalling the power-manager yet?
[23:49] <chalcedony> wylde, yes
[23:49] <velko_> chalcedony, have yo tried to create a new user and login as that user?
[23:49] <pfifo> chalcedony, is /home on a separate partition?
[23:50] <jen> so what do I do?
[23:50] <Titomen> anybody know how to manually start inactive raid 5
[23:51] <dooglus> turns out it does use 'ping' to find the fastest mirror, but some mirrors aren't ping-able
[23:51] <velko_> jen, have you followed haz3lnut's advice? if yes, you don't have to do anything more for a while
[23:51] <nishttal2> i am looking for some themes for Ubuntu 11.10 unity but all i can seem to find are ones for gnome-shell.. can someone point me to a link
[23:51] <Titomen> i already stop  it but does not know how to srtated degrade mode
[23:51] <jen> otay
[23:51] <jen> c:
[23:51] <chalcedony> pfifo, yes
[23:51] <chalcedony> it should be
[23:51] <chalcedony> velko_, no
[23:51] <pfifo> chalcedony, did you have files there from a previous install?
[23:52] <zykotick9> jen: FYI if you install aptitude you can run "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" to install what is possible.
[23:52] <chalcedony> pfifo, i just have trouble rmembering what i should know so i dont know which is what :)
[23:53] <pfifo> huh?
[23:54] <chalcedony> pfifo, i don't know what my husband did.. is there a way to show you the file list or where home is to fix it?
[23:54] <nishttal2> pfifo, do you know where i can find some themes for unity?
[23:54] <velko_> chalcedony, just try to login with a new user. if it works, this means that you have stale config files. you can either purge them or copy over the data files you care abouit
[23:54] <pfifo> chalcedony, try this 'sudo mv /home/chalcedony /home/old && sudo cp -a /etc/skel /home/chalcedony && sudo chown -R chalcedony:chalcedony /home/chalcedony'
[23:55] <pfifo> nishttal2, no
[23:55] <Fyodorovna> TheFizzMeister, I think with a quick check on google that is a tough card, you might also make a thread at the ubuntu forums.
[23:55] <nishttal2> pfifo, hmm.. ok :(
[23:56] <chalcedony> pfifo, ty - um can i ask what that does?
[23:56] <TheFizzMeister> Yeah, I had a feeling it wasn't gonna be too fun.
[23:56] <TheFizzMeister> At least I don't watch too much video on my laptop. Youtube's working, and that's what most of it is.
[23:57] <TheFizzMeister> My video watching, I mean.
[23:57] <pfifo> chalcedony, it gives you a clean home directory, and backsup the old one in /home/old
[23:57] <TheFizzMeister> I'll try on the Ubuntu forums then. Thanks.
[23:57] <chalcedony> pfifo, i super appreciate you :)
[23:58] <velko_> pfifo, it's her husbands computer. the user is named differently. and you don't really know if there is not already a directory named /home/old. so don't advice her to do this. she can just try to log in with a new user
[23:59] <pfifo> velko_, it can be named anything, /home/old is not required
[23:59] <sunz> hi! anyone ever had the problem with unity wrecking the thunderbird prefs.js file?
[23:59] <sunz> any way to recover that?