[03:02] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: ping-pong
[03:02] <leo-unglaub> yes?
[03:03] <leo-unglaub> didn't you wan't to go to a party?
[03:03] <ochosi> well i just returned
[03:03] <leo-unglaub> oh, okay
[03:04] <leo-unglaub> back from the party directly into the irc
[03:04] <ochosi> i thought 4am is a pretty ok time to return
[03:04] <ochosi> you're also here :)
[03:04] <leo-unglaub> you must be a real nerd
[03:04] <ochosi> ty
[03:05] <leo-unglaub> don't worry, i am the bigger nerd... i am still in the office
[03:05] <ochosi> woot
[03:05] <ochosi> you must be kiddin
[03:05] <leo-unglaub> 4 in the morning is normal for me
[03:05] <ochosi> seriously?
[03:05] <leo-unglaub> yes
[03:05] <ochosi> well, i'm speechless
[03:06] <leo-unglaub> there is nothing else to do for me on a friday evening 
[03:06] <ochosi> (but less surprised now that you said "morning" around 4pm)
[03:06] <ochosi> why's that?
[03:07] <leo-unglaub> friday night is just crap on tv
[03:07] <ochosi> right, but there are things other than tv
[03:08] <leo-unglaub> and playing battlefield gets boring after 350 hours ingame
[03:08] <leo-unglaub> and not to forgett, i don't like vienna
[03:08] <ochosi> haven't played games since diablo2
[03:08] <leo-unglaub> crap city
[03:08] <ochosi> ah, why's that?
[03:09] <leo-unglaub> so much stupid people, dirty, noisy...
[03:09] <ochosi> a-ha, so what's your favorite city?
[03:09] <leo-unglaub> none
[03:09] <ochosi> ("so many" stupid people btw ;) )
[03:09] <leo-unglaub> i don't like citys in general
[03:10] <ochosi> but if you follow your current working hours you could work remotely, no?
[03:10] <leo-unglaub> yeah yeah, go ahead....mark the little boy with the bad spelling skills
[03:10] <leo-unglaub> no
[03:11] <leo-unglaub> i mean the most work is on my laptop an on the servers, but normaly i work not from home
[03:11] <ochosi> do you work with others in a team?
[03:11] <leo-unglaub> yes, i am the technical director in the company
[03:12] <ochosi> hm, i see
[03:12] <ochosi> but at this time of the day i'd assume there aren't too many people to direct, no?
[03:12] <leo-unglaub> i am alone in the office..
[03:13] <ochosi> hmkay, i guess that's why i expected you'd work remotely
[03:13] <ochosi> (or at least: be able to..)
[03:13] <leo-unglaub> nooo, i like sitting alone i nthe office
[03:13] <leo-unglaub> so i work if they are gone
[03:13] <leo-unglaub> i hate people in real live
[03:13] <leo-unglaub> i like to chat in irc or so, but i hate having them around me
[03:13] <leo-unglaub> so i am happy if i can work at night
[03:13] <ochosi> :)
[03:13] <ochosi> why's that then?
[03:14] <ochosi> (not surprised anymore that you dislike cities)
[03:14] <leo-unglaub> *g*
[03:14] <leo-unglaub> i don't know why i don't like people..
[03:14] <leo-unglaub> if you spend so much time like me alone in a server room or alone at home, you get used to the silence
[03:15] <ochosi> the silence of servers running? :)
[03:15] <leo-unglaub> yeah
[03:15] <ochosi> maybe you just need to meet a human that makes the sound of a server
[03:15] <leo-unglaub> you get me
[03:15] <ochosi> (when idle)
[03:16] <leo-unglaub> no, i don't know...people i know just talk to me if they need something fixed
[03:16] <leo-unglaub> and after 6 years i hate saying the following line: "have you tryed turning it of and on again?"
[03:16] <ochosi> lol
[03:17] <leo-unglaub> thats what i say every time my phone rings...
[03:17] <leo-unglaub> *g*
[03:17] <ochosi> well in that case let me step down from that line. (and forget about parole etc. :)
[03:17] <leo-unglaub> ?
[03:17] <leo-unglaub> no, that is different
[03:17] <ochosi> i don't just wanna contact someone if i wanna get something fixde
[03:17] <ochosi> fixed
[03:17] <ochosi> especially if that's always the case for that someone
[03:18] <leo-unglaub> why not?
[03:18] <ochosi> because i assume i'm not the only social being in the universe with feelings
[03:18] <leo-unglaub> i think thats the best part of open source software. you can be streat with people. no worrying about money or projects. just tell them to fix something and they do it
[03:19] <leo-unglaub> besides...you are not a real live guy for me, you are just irc
[03:19] <ochosi> i think that's a misconception
[03:19] <ochosi> if you tell people to fix something in opensource, their reaction depends heavily on the kind of project
[03:19] <ochosi> take claws-mail for example, if they don't wanna fix it (e.g. if they're not interested in your use-case) they simply don't
[03:20] <ochosi> another example: xfce. they don't have enough manpower to fix anything you might suggest
[03:20] <ochosi> another example: gnome. they don't seem to listen to anyone else but themselves
[03:21] <leo-unglaub> hmmm, maybe...i spend nearly 6 to 8 hours every day fixing errors or improve my open source php projects (sadly i am a better php+mysql guy than c/c++) but i think it works...
[03:21] <ochosi> if it's really _just irc_ to you, then i'm not sure i understand your engagement here (or: your motivation to contribute). not that that matters though :) the important thing is that people contribute, not my understanding of it
[03:22] <leo-unglaub> of yourse manpower is a problem but i like that people can send me ideas and i implement them
[03:22] <ochosi> sure
[03:22] <leo-unglaub> my motivation?
[03:22] <ochosi> if you're on the dev-side, then that's your choice
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> my motivation is simple: i am a php guy...and i hate that. PHP is a language for suckers...i want to lean the real c++ language and so i teached it myself and now i want to help (in my limited ressources) to make linux better so no one can say anymore: mac or windows is better
[03:24] <leo-unglaub> i am just bored all day long, so i look for open source projects to build and learn
[03:24] <ochosi> that's good motivation i guess
[03:24] <ochosi> oh darn, i feel really tired
[03:24] <ochosi> have a good night
[03:24] <ochosi> ttyl
[03:25] <leo-unglaub> i will
[03:25] <leo-unglaub> cu
[14:29] <mr_pouit> precise/i386 daily builds broken for now (there're missing)
[15:47] <Unit193> I noticed yesterday, but didn't yet today.
[16:17] <mr_pouit> knome: I need a new logo for usr/share/pixmaps/{xubuntu-logo-menu.png,xubuntu-logo.png,xubuntu-logo.svg}. Thanks :P
[16:20] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: so, my build script is fixed
[16:20] <leo-unglaub> running now
[16:20] <leo-unglaub> i am currently on my way home
[16:20] <leo-unglaub> see you later
[18:55] <pleia2> I had hoped to have the testing docs updated by now, but day job got in the way all week :( will work on it this weekend so I can get something out by Monday or so
[18:56] <pleia2> Tuesday night I'm leaving for an 8 day trip, will only have hotel wifi (yuck)
[20:15] <knome> mr_pouit, will provide you those in the next 3 hours
[23:03] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: hey
[23:04] <ochosi> nice to hear!
[23:12] <knome> mr_pouit, ?
[23:12] <knome> hey ochosi 
[23:12] <ochosi> heya knome 
[23:12] <knome> ochosi, did you see mr_pouit's request for the logo files
[23:13] <knome> in /usr/share/pixmaps
[23:13] <knome> are those used for the menu exclusively?
[23:13] <ochosi> to be honest i've lost track of what logo-icons are used where :)
[23:13] <knome> hmmh
[23:13] <knome> well, one of them says -menu
[23:13] <knome> but they are big, like 128x128
[23:14] <knome> but they are still just the icons
[23:14] <ochosi> hm, i think we should try to find out which logos are used for what, then we could optimize the sizing
[23:14] <ochosi> but currently i'm busy with other stuff
[23:15] <ochosi> so i'm not sure i wanna take over this task :)
[23:15] <knome> mmh
[23:15] <knome> it's not too bad if the small size logo is there and it's used on bigger sizes too
[23:15] <knome> it's worse the other way
[23:15] <ochosi> yup
[23:15] <knome> okay, i will provide those files for mr_pouit 
[23:18] <knome> mr_pouit, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_logo/pixmaps/
[23:18] <knome> mr_pouit, with love, from me to you
[23:19] <knome> mr_pouit, (and they're optimized too!)
[23:31] <ochosi> night!
[23:31] <knome> nighty :)