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TacoTruckCan I install Lubuntu from a standard ubuntu server headless system? For example adding the Lubuntu PPA and then running something like apt-get lubuntu-desktop04:44
SentynelTacoTruck: there's no PPA to add, just install the lubuntu-desktop package04:45
TacoTruckOK. How about when I already have an existing standard ubuntu desktop install. Is it possible to swap that out with lubuntu-desktop? Or must I begin with the server base?04:48
Sentynelnope, you can install lubuntu-desktop too04:48
Sentyneland select which env to load on the login screen04:49
TacoTruckAh, that's where I slipped up. I have my system set to auto login.04:49
TacoTruckHence never saw lubuntu option04:49
Sentynelyou can also remove the ubuntu packages if you wish, and it'll just load lubuntu automatically04:50
TacoTruckwhich command should I use to do that? I tried to agt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, and well as aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop but that didn't seem to wokr.04:56
Sentynelit's not sufficient to remove just the ubuntu-desktop package04:56
Sentynelas it's a metapackage which depends on all the real packages used by ubuntu-desktop04:56
Sentynelhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde there's a command here if you're on 11.1004:57
TacoTruckthx much05:02
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milen8204Hello all I have a problem whit spelling in xchat on OS Lubuntu11.10.I do not have spelling check when I start the program in a normal way (double click on it`s icon), but when I start it whit bash script it have. have two locale languages en (English) and bg (Bulgarian), but the Bulgarian spelling does not start at all. Could some one give a bit of advice please ?11:59
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bioterrormilen8204, you have aspell-bg installed?12:28
milen8204bioterror, yes I have aspell-bg and myspell-bg installed also aspell-en and myspell-en12:30
milen8204bioterror, I have bg spelling in LiberteOffice12:31
bioterrorseems like the only way to change spell checkin language is do it with the locale on terminal12:34
bioterrorLANG=bg xchat12:34
milen8204I tried does not work :D12:35
bioterrorhttps://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_spell_checking that doesnt work?12:37
milen8204bioterror, yes I have tried several times12:55
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MOSJhello there17:45
MOSJsomeone to help me?17:46
Marckhello?17:51
phillwMOSJ: do not ask to ask... just ask :)17:52
MOSJrs17:52
MOSJok17:52
MOSJI just put lubuntu here17:52
MOSJuntill yesterday was using ubuntu17:53
phillwwhich version? 11.10?17:53
MOSJ11.0417:53
MOSJI didn't upgraded it because I am almost buying another pc17:53
phillwokay. do ask the question(s)17:53
MOSJjust waiting for sandybridge ^^17:54
MOSJwell17:54
MOSJthe problem is that i'm with trouble to access files through some apps17:55
MOSJfor exemple17:55
MOSJI cannot open my avatar on pidgin17:55
MOSJit's kinda hard to explain17:56
phillwwere you using ubuntu 10.04?17:57
MOSJlubuntu 11.1017:57
MOSJI put lubuntu 11.10 yesterday17:58
phillwnow you have me confused... you asaid you were using lubuntu 11.04?17:58
phillws/asaid/said17:58
MOSJsorry for my poor english17:59
MOSJwell... start again17:59
phillwthat is okay. Are you using Lubuntu 11.04 or Lubuntu 11.10?17:59
MOSJUntill yestarday I was using UBUNTU 11.04...17:59
MOSJworking great18:00
phillwhow did you install Lubuntu?18:00
MOSJtook my HD to another pc and installed from there18:00
MOSJthen come back to my old athlon18:00
phillwSo, the disk was formatted, or did you install lubuntu along side ubuntu?18:01
MOSJvish... sorry again... my english isn't helping18:02
MOSJI installed lubuntu in a different HD18:02
MOSJI have 2 hds here18:03
MOSJ30 gb with ubuntu, working fine18:03
phillwOkay, so the disk you have now has only lubuntu on it?18:03
MOSJand now 80gb with lubuntu18:03
MOSJyep18:03
phillwwhat version of lubuntu?18:03
MOSJ11.1018:03
phillwhave you checked for updates since you did your install?18:04
MOSJyes, I downloaded 170 mB of updates18:04
MOSJand have already rebooted it18:05
MOSJrestarted*18:05
phillwokay. So when you say pidgin cannot see your avatar; have you put your avatar onto the new lubuntu installation?18:06
MOSJyes18:06
MOSJthe problem must be with the file manager18:06
MOSJdoesn't show anything18:06
MOSJand while opened, the file manager of pidgin makes the pc slowdown18:08
MOSJis the file manager of pidgin same of system?18:08
phillwthe filemanager is a sperate program to pidgin. the filemanager is called PCManFM18:11
MOSJhmm18:11
MOSJwould you mind take a look with teamviewer?18:12
phillwI am not on a machine with teamviewer installed.18:13
MOSJok...18:14
MOSJso...18:14
phillwMOSJ: what is your native language? I'll see if I can find a native speaker for you.18:15
MOSJportuguese18:15
MOSJI'm from brazil18:15
phillwwe may be in luck, I'll just see if pedro is on (also from brazil)18:16
MOSJoh thanks18:16
phillwMOSJ: please meet pedro300518:17
phillwpedro3005: he has a new installed lubuntu install, updated but is having problems.18:17
MOSJdaew manolo18:18
MOSJrs18:18
phillwIf you'd prefer to discuss in PM feel free!18:18
MOSJoh sure18:18
MOSJoops18:18
MOSJhow pm works here?18:18
MOSJthats my first time using irc18:19
phillwpedro3005: should PM you. it will show as a new tab if you are using pidgin18:19
MOSJhmmm18:19
M0hiMOSJ, In pidgin, you can find the channel name in the top. near that, if someone pings you, his name will come. click it and chat :]18:20
MOSJthx18:22
pedro3005phillw, any ideas?18:27
phillwpedro3005: I'm not entirely sure what his problems are, could you translate them?18:28
pedro3005"he says lubuntu is having frequent slow downs and the file manager does not work; he has reinstalled it thrice, checked the installation cd and ran a memtest"18:28
MOSJcould be because I installed it in another pc and after bring the hd to here?18:29
phillwyes, it could. Especially if the computers have different architecture.18:30
pedro3005ah sim com certeza18:30
pedro3005vc tem que instalar no próprio pc18:30
MOSJvish... the other is a C2D e460018:31
MOSJthis is just an old athlon18:31
MOSJthats because I don't have a dvd drive here18:31
MOSJand my drive is sata18:31
MOSJthis pc is all ide18:32
MOSJwell..18:32
pedro3005floppy drive?18:32
MOSJnesse aqui?18:33
pedro3005é18:33
MOSJtá perguntando se eu tenho drive de disquete nesse pc aqui?18:33
pedro3005é, no que vc quer o lubuntu18:33
MOSJentão18:33
MOSJé esse18:33
MOSJrs18:33
MOSJtem sim18:33
MOSJwell... thank you guys...18:34
MOSJI'll see what can I do18:35
MOSJah18:35
phillwI can only suggest installing the mini-iso and then putting the drive into the athlon and installing via the mini-iso18:35
pedro3005ah eu tinha uma ideia mas não vai dar18:35
MOSJJust remembered... I've installed ubuntu at this way18:36
MOSJputting the hard drive in the other pc18:36
MOSJ...18:36
phillwI'm at a loss as to why it will not work - lubuntu and ubuntu use the same installer.18:37
MOSJthats what I thought18:37
MOSJwe can never understand old pcs18:38
MOSJrs18:38
MOSJBut I'm just waiting for intel releases the sandybridges to buy another18:39
phillwMOSJ: is the Athlon 32 bit or 64 bit, I cannot find a deffinitive answer.18:40
MOSJhey, just one doubt I have, you may help me18:40
MOSJphill, my athlon is 3218:41
MOSJand about my doubt18:41
MOSJits kinda obvious18:41
MOSJbut18:41
MOSJif I host a server here... to play minecraft with my friends, or whatever18:42
MOSJI got to open a port at my router18:42
MOSJand my router isn't a modem, so I got a modem and the router plugged on it18:42
MOSJthen, have I to open ports on the router and the modem?18:43
MOSJI don't know nothing about network...18:43
phillwMOSJ: I'd suggest using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall to install the minimal 32 bit for 11.10, then adding lubuntu onto it.18:44
MOSJI don't think RAM is the problem... I've got 1 gB of RAM18:46
phillwonce the minimal 32 bit is on, put it into your Athlon machine and follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.10.2B-_.2832_and_64_Bit to install lubuntu-desktop18:46
phillwMOSJ: I'm not sure if the install CD is the correct version for your machine. By putting just the absolute bare minimum on so that it boots, doing the rest of the install *should* ensure you get the correct versions of everything.18:48
MOSJhmm18:48
phillwMOSJ: is the CD you created the http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso  or the http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso one?18:49
MOSJi38618:50
phillwhmm, well, that's the correct image. I'm out of ideas if the mini-iso cannot solve it :(18:50
MOSJmaybe I should try linuxmint...18:52
phillwor install ubuntu, then put lubuntu on top of it, then remove ubuntu? Also a messy way - but you could check that things like pidgin etc. were working for you.18:53
MOSJI tryed install lxde18:54
MOSJon my ubuntu18:54
phillwno, you need to install lubuntu. lxde <> lubuntu18:55
phillwMOSJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu18:56
MOSJBut cannot I use another graphic interface on ubuntu?18:56
MOSJLike18:56
MOSJinstall ubuntu18:56
MOSJand after install LXDE18:56
MOSJand at login screen change gnome to lxde?18:57
phillwMOSJ: no, lubuntu will install lxde and then add lubuntu. at login screen select lubuntu (not lxde)18:57
MOSJahh18:57
MOSJso18:57
MOSJthats because didn't worked18:57
phillwif you already have lxde, you can add lubuntu to it.18:58
MOSJhmmm18:58
phillwlog into lxde, get a terminal session and follow the notes at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu to add lubuntu-desktop18:58
MOSJI wil try next weekend18:58
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phillwokay.18:59
MOSJtoday I need the pc functional to watch the walking dead and top gear :P18:59
Guest31678hi all :) I have a problem logging in lubuntu. As I put username and password, the system goes back asking my usr and pwd again and again :( Any advice?19:00
phillwGuest31678: 1st one to check is CAPS lock. it is an easy one to get caught out with :)19:01
Guest31678yes, it's not capslock :)19:01
MOSJwell... I think you could try to log in at text interface19:01
MOSJjust to see what will happen19:01
Guest31678ok, I tried to log in in text and it logs19:02
Guest31678ctrl-alt-f2, right? There it works..19:02
phillwGuest31678: try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword19:03
phillwjust to flush it.19:03
Guest31678ok, I'm trying :)19:03
Guest31678actually I don't understand why if I put ls /home nothings comes out...19:13
KM0201Guest31678: because /home doesn't exisst19:14
KM0201hmm, wait, nevermind19:15
Guest31678anyway as I try to change the psw it says (in italian) error in manipulation autentication token19:15
KM0201change the psw for what?19:15
Guest31678the original problem is that if I put my username and password the GUI doesn't login19:16
Guest31678it keeps me asking username and pwd again and again... :(19:16
phillwGuest31678: this is most likely caused by a permissions error in .ICEAuthority in your ~home directory. I'm perplexed that ls -al /home shows nothing19:17
Guest31678ok, consider that I have my /home partition on an external HDD19:18
phillwhave you got an entry in /etc/fstab to mount it?19:19
Guest31678I tried to mount it using the recovery mode menu19:20
phillwhas it mounted?19:20
Guest31678what can I try to do? Now I'm in root shell...19:20
phillwcan you manually mount it?19:21
Guest31678how? :) Please be patient :)19:21
phillwdo you have a # prompt?19:21
Guest31678yes19:21
phillwwhat does fdisk -l show?19:22
Guest31678on sdb there is this external HDD19:23
Guest31678so it's mounted, right?19:23
phillwnot nessarily, fdisk is just saying it can 'see' it.19:23
phillwdoes mount command show it as mounted?19:23
phillwas an example mine shows as /dev/sdb3 on /home type ext4 (rw)19:25
phillwGuest31678: I'm sorry, I've got to go. What you need to do is edit the /etc/fstab file to automount what ever partition your /home is on when the computer boots.19:27
andrea_no problem, thanks :)19:27
andrea_how can I edit the fstab file?19:28
phillwfdisk -l will tell you the partiton (usually, but not always, /dev/sdb1).19:29
phillwthen use the command nano /etc/fstab19:29
andrea_ok, thx :)19:29
andrea_I'll have a look19:29
andrea_I can always reinstall it19:29
andrea_since the /home is separate19:29
phillwuse the existing entries as an example if it is /dev/sdb1 then it would be /dev/sdb      /home    /ext4    /default19:30
phillwre-installing will not help until you have edited fstab. Sorry... I've GTG getting shouted!19:30
andrea_please go, and thanks :)19:31
andrea_anyone else can help? Everything seems to be ok, but still it doesn't log in :/19:40
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defueHello everybody!20:04
defueCould someone please help me ...20:04
defueIs there is a way to set up keyboard bounce keys in Lubuntu the same way as it is done in XFCE or gnome?20:05
defueI mean to setup some interval that prevents double typing one letter20:05
rawfodoghey, I got a wacom tablet, it should work in ubuntu but it wont in lubuntu ?20:55
bioterrorsame drivers20:57
rawfodoghmm ...20:57
rawfodogmaybe I need to restart ?20:57
rawfodoglol20:57
rawfodogIn ubuntu there is a tablet dialog to configure it ...20:57
rawfodogrestart didnt work21:00
rawfodoghmmm21:00
phillwrawfodog: have a look at http://www.techytalk.info/ubuntu-latest-wacom-tablet-driver-ppa/ and grab that driver.21:03
phillwit has instructions as to how to roll it back if it does not work.21:04
rawfodogcool thanks :D21:10
phillwrawfodog: do please report back how you get on.21:12
rawfodogsudo apt-get install dkms wacom-dkms21:13
rawfodogReading package lists... Done21:13
rawfodogBuilding dependency tree21:13
rawfodogReading state information... Done21:13
rawfodogE: Unable to locate package wacom-dkms21:13
rawfodog;_;21:13
phillwdid you add the ppa?21:14
rawfodogyup21:17
rawfodogcopy and pasted21:17
rawfodogthe code21:17
phillwrawfodog: hmmmm.... well, that was my best shot :(  Did the ppa add okay?21:19
rawfodogyup21:20
rawfodogI dont understand, ubuntu spedcifically advertises that tablets work on it now21:21
rawfodogI dont see why it wouldnt work with lubuntu21:21
rawfodogis it a gnome thing ?21:21
phillwit may be something missing in X for lubuntu.21:22
rawfodoglike I can type in MAN WACOM and get the manual page ..21:22
phillwYou may want to grab the X11 from http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Downloads21:22
rawfodogI think there is basically a SETTING that swtiches it on or off21:22
rawfodogI think the driver is here tho.21:23
phillwAt least if you grab that, you can see if there is something that lubuntu do not ship.21:23
rawfodogI think there is a flag somewhere in some config file that is set to WACOM = off lol21:23
phillwthe driver appears to be installed in the kernel, we use the standard ubuntu family kernel21:23
rawfodogyeah21:24
rawfodogBut ubuntu has some GUI to turn the wacom on21:24
rawfodogSo Im thinking "well, the man page is accessable, the driver IS installed, lsusb shows the wacom ..."21:24
rawfodog"So it must be some setting somewhere ..."21:24
rawfodogSo if I can get that CONFIG utility that is in ubuntu for the wacom I think it will configure x11.conf for me21:26
rtdoswhat has a smaller footprint: xfce4 or lxde?22:03
phillwrtdos: lubuntu has a lower resource requirement than xubuntu.22:09
rawfodogno dice on the wacom tablet22:11
rawfodogthat sucks22:11
phillwrawfodog: :(22:11
rawfodogit should work ...22:12
phillwnot sure what is shipped in ubuntu that lubuntu does not.22:12
rawfodogI kno22:12
rawfodogMaybe Ill install ubuntu22:13
phillwrawfodog: I've found another ppa, if you're willing to try?22:14
phillwhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/wacom-control-panel-easily-configure-wacom-tablet.html22:14
rawfodogoh yeah22:15
rawfodogI just want this to work heheh22:15
phillwIn the past, I've found ubuntugeek to be very good on, well, geek stuff :P22:15
phillwwith the ability to remove ppa's - you can always roll it back.22:16
rawfodogGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 360D382BFC695405Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yobbobandana/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found22:17
rawfodogFailed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yobbobandana/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found22:17
rawfodogFailed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yobbobandana/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found22:17
rawfodogSome index files failed to d22:17
phillwrawfodog: I've just fully read it. It appears outdated :(22:17
phillwahh, maybe not then :)22:18
rawfodogThat utility is what I need tho22:18
phillwyou may just need the gpg key.... give me a moment22:18
rawfodogI need the same utility that is in ubuntu for lubuntu22:18
phillwtry adding the key... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeyServerInformation22:19
rawfodogk22:20
rawfodogI added that22:20
rawfodogtry again ?22:20
phillwyup.22:20
rawfodogI still get that error22:20
rawfodogim gonna try ubuntu live cd22:24
rawfodogmaybe this new model of wacom doesnt even work22:24
phillwxsetwacom? ... http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Xsetwacom22:24
phillwmaybe that's the little critter you need?22:24
rawfodogill try it  :)22:25
rawfodogthanks for all the help by the way :)22:25
phillwthat's from http://askubuntu.com/questions/76652/how-can-i-get-my-wacom-tablet-to-use-the-mouse-in-relative-touchpad-mode22:26
rawfodogE: Unable to locate package xsetwacom22:26
rawfodogbrb22:27
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rawfodogubuntu liveCD wouldn't even load lol22:58
rawfodogso I guess this wacom isnt gonna work22:58
rawfodogso much for "wacom support"22:58
holsteinyeah?.. its out of the box for me Fudge23:00
holsteinFudge: sorry...23:00
holsteinrawfodog: ^^23:00
rawfodogHmmm23:01
rawfodogholstein, your wacom works in lubuntu out of the box ?23:01
holsteinrawfodog: i plugged it in in several buntu's and it worked23:02
rawfodogHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm23:02
rawfodoginterestting ...23:02
holsteinlubuntu = ubuntu... same kernel and driver support23:02
rawfodogmaybe cause Im on 64bit ?23:02
* holstein shrugs23:02
rawfodogYeah I know holstein , phil and I were talking about this earlier23:02
holsteinnah... i tried it on 64bit 10.04 for sure23:02
rawfodogit should work23:02
rawfodogIll try my other computer running lubuntu23:02
rawfodogmaybe it will work on that23:03
rawfodogSo, can you use it as a mouse pointer aswell ? or is it only active in a program ?23:03
rawfodogbrb, trying on another lubuntu machine23:03
rawfodoglol holstein it doesnt work on my other computer23:06
rawfodogso maybe lubuntu is compatible with this model23:06
rawfodogor you are a liar ;)23:07
kosaidpohello guys23:07
holsteinrawfodog: when im near the actual hardware, i'll plug it in to whatever version of whatever you like23:07
holsteinanyways.. good luck23:07
kosaidpoanyone here used heimdall before ??23:07
rawfodogphillw, holstein , think I found the problem. 11.04 doesn't have the drivers !23:18
phillwrawfodog: most odd.23:20
rawfodogsudo apt-get install wacom-dkms23:20
rawfodogwhoops23:20
rawfodoghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860985&page=223:20
rawfodogThere is a work around but it's buggy etc.23:20
phillwrawfodog: what about the site from earlier that had the drivers?23:22
micahggilir: are you sure the blueman patch is correct?23:24
micahgNotShowIn is enough to stop autostart23:24
phillwahh, it doesn't - says they are built in.... now I AM confused!23:24
gilirmicahg, it should, it's not the first autostart desktop file I fix this way23:25
gilirmicahg, but I can double check it with a PPA23:25
micahggilir: let me know, I'm planning to update to 1.23 this week to fix the main crash and some other bugs, I'll wait to include this as well23:26
gilirmicahg, great thanks :)23:26
micahggilir: BTW, you could just hand edit the file as well :)23:26
gilirmicahg, any progress on lightdm-gtk-greeter ?23:26
micahggilir: gah, yeah, it's on my list, but I have some updates I have to get out first tonight, should be in by beta 2 freeze23:27
gilirmicahg, ok, but let me know if you are short in time, I can help on this23:27
micahggilir: I just have to merge 2 source versions, one has the upgrade logic, one is based on Debian's svn branch23:28
gilirmicahg, maybe just doing the logic one first, to please fondations people :) And do a proper merge / sync with Debian later23:30
micahggilir: if I get stuck, I will do that, I replied that it'll be in by beta freeze to the release list and no one panicked, so I think I'm ok23:31
gilirrelease team never panic, or should never show it ;)23:32
phillwthey're cool cookies :)23:33

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