[00:00] thanks === _h4ckm3 is now known as h4ckm3 [04:44] Can I install Lubuntu from a standard ubuntu server headless system? For example adding the Lubuntu PPA and then running something like apt-get lubuntu-desktop [04:45] TacoTruck: there's no PPA to add, just install the lubuntu-desktop package [04:48] OK. How about when I already have an existing standard ubuntu desktop install. Is it possible to swap that out with lubuntu-desktop? Or must I begin with the server base? [04:48] nope, you can install lubuntu-desktop too [04:49] and select which env to load on the login screen [04:49] Ah, that's where I slipped up. I have my system set to auto login. [04:49] Hence never saw lubuntu option [04:50] you can also remove the ubuntu packages if you wish, and it'll just load lubuntu automatically [04:56] which command should I use to do that? I tried to agt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, and well as aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop but that didn't seem to wokr. [04:56] it's not sufficient to remove just the ubuntu-desktop package [04:56] as it's a metapackage which depends on all the real packages used by ubuntu-desktop [04:57] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde there's a command here if you're on 11.10 [05:02] thx much === CTtechguy__ is now known as CTtechguy === _h4ckm3 is now known as h4ckm3 === KaiSforza is now known as KAISforza === KAISforza is now known as KaiSforza === KAISforza is now known as KaiSforza [11:59] Hello all I have a problem whit spelling in xchat on OS Lubuntu11.10.I do not have spelling check when I start the program in a normal way (double click on it`s icon), but when I start it whit bash script it have. have two locale languages en (English) and bg (Bulgarian), but the Bulgarian spelling does not start at all. Could some one give a bit of advice please ? === KaiSforza is now known as KAISforza [12:28] milen8204, you have aspell-bg installed? [12:30] bioterror, yes I have aspell-bg and myspell-bg installed also aspell-en and myspell-en [12:31] bioterror, I have bg spelling in LiberteOffice [12:34] seems like the only way to change spell checkin language is do it with the locale on terminal [12:34] LANG=bg xchat [12:35] I tried does not work :D [12:37] https://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_spell_checking that doesnt work? [12:55] bioterror, yes I have tried several times === iceroot_ is now known as iceroot [17:45] hello there [17:46] someone to help me? [17:51] hello? [17:52] MOSJ: do not ask to ask... just ask :) [17:52] rs [17:52] ok [17:52] I just put lubuntu here [17:53] untill yesterday was using ubuntu [17:53] which version? 11.10? [17:53] 11.04 [17:53] I didn't upgraded it because I am almost buying another pc [17:53] okay. do ask the question(s) [17:54] just waiting for sandybridge ^^ [17:54] well [17:55] the problem is that i'm with trouble to access files through some apps [17:55] for exemple [17:55] I cannot open my avatar on pidgin [17:56] it's kinda hard to explain [17:57] were you using ubuntu 10.04? [17:57] lubuntu 11.10 [17:58] I put lubuntu 11.10 yesterday [17:58] now you have me confused... you asaid you were using lubuntu 11.04? [17:58] s/asaid/said [17:59] sorry for my poor english [17:59] well... start again [17:59] that is okay. Are you using Lubuntu 11.04 or Lubuntu 11.10? [17:59] Untill yestarday I was using UBUNTU 11.04... [18:00] working great [18:00] how did you install Lubuntu? [18:00] took my HD to another pc and installed from there [18:00] then come back to my old athlon [18:01] So, the disk was formatted, or did you install lubuntu along side ubuntu? [18:02] vish... sorry again... my english isn't helping [18:02] I installed lubuntu in a different HD [18:03] I have 2 hds here [18:03] 30 gb with ubuntu, working fine [18:03] Okay, so the disk you have now has only lubuntu on it? [18:03] and now 80gb with lubuntu [18:03] yep [18:03] what version of lubuntu? [18:03] 11.10 [18:04] have you checked for updates since you did your install? [18:04] yes, I downloaded 170 mB of updates [18:05] and have already rebooted it [18:05] restarted* [18:06] okay. So when you say pidgin cannot see your avatar; have you put your avatar onto the new lubuntu installation? [18:06] yes [18:06] the problem must be with the file manager [18:06] doesn't show anything [18:08] and while opened, the file manager of pidgin makes the pc slowdown [18:08] is the file manager of pidgin same of system? [18:11] the filemanager is a sperate program to pidgin. the filemanager is called PCManFM [18:11] hmm [18:12] would you mind take a look with teamviewer? [18:13] I am not on a machine with teamviewer installed. [18:14] ok... [18:14] so... [18:15] MOSJ: what is your native language? I'll see if I can find a native speaker for you. [18:15] portuguese [18:15] I'm from brazil [18:16] we may be in luck, I'll just see if pedro is on (also from brazil) [18:16] oh thanks [18:17] MOSJ: please meet pedro3005 [18:17] pedro3005: he has a new installed lubuntu install, updated but is having problems. [18:18] daew manolo [18:18] rs [18:18] If you'd prefer to discuss in PM feel free! [18:18] oh sure [18:18] oops [18:18] how pm works here? [18:19] thats my first time using irc [18:19] pedro3005: should PM you. it will show as a new tab if you are using pidgin [18:19] hmmm [18:20] MOSJ, In pidgin, you can find the channel name in the top. near that, if someone pings you, his name will come. click it and chat :] [18:22] thx [18:27] phillw, any ideas? [18:28] pedro3005: I'm not entirely sure what his problems are, could you translate them? [18:28] "he says lubuntu is having frequent slow downs and the file manager does not work; he has reinstalled it thrice, checked the installation cd and ran a memtest" [18:29] could be because I installed it in another pc and after bring the hd to here? [18:30] yes, it could. Especially if the computers have different architecture. [18:30] ah sim com certeza [18:30] vc tem que instalar no próprio pc [18:31] vish... the other is a C2D e4600 [18:31] this is just an old athlon [18:31] thats because I don't have a dvd drive here [18:31] and my drive is sata [18:32] this pc is all ide [18:32] well.. [18:32] floppy drive? [18:33] nesse aqui? [18:33] é [18:33] tá perguntando se eu tenho drive de disquete nesse pc aqui? [18:33] é, no que vc quer o lubuntu [18:33] então [18:33] é esse [18:33] rs [18:33] tem sim [18:34] well... thank you guys... [18:35] I'll see what can I do [18:35] ah [18:35] I can only suggest installing the mini-iso and then putting the drive into the athlon and installing via the mini-iso [18:35] ah eu tinha uma ideia mas não vai dar [18:36] Just remembered... I've installed ubuntu at this way [18:36] putting the hard drive in the other pc [18:36] ... [18:37] I'm at a loss as to why it will not work - lubuntu and ubuntu use the same installer. [18:37] thats what I thought [18:38] we can never understand old pcs [18:38] rs [18:39] But I'm just waiting for intel releases the sandybridges to buy another [18:40] MOSJ: is the Athlon 32 bit or 64 bit, I cannot find a deffinitive answer. [18:40] hey, just one doubt I have, you may help me [18:41] phill, my athlon is 32 [18:41] and about my doubt [18:41] its kinda obvious [18:41] but [18:42] if I host a server here... to play minecraft with my friends, or whatever [18:42] I got to open a port at my router [18:42] and my router isn't a modem, so I got a modem and the router plugged on it [18:43] then, have I to open ports on the router and the modem? [18:43] I don't know nothing about network... [18:44] MOSJ: I'd suggest using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall to install the minimal 32 bit for 11.10, then adding lubuntu onto it. [18:46] I don't think RAM is the problem... I've got 1 gB of RAM [18:46] once the minimal 32 bit is on, put it into your Athlon machine and follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#A10.10.2B-_.2832_and_64_Bit to install lubuntu-desktop [18:48] MOSJ: I'm not sure if the install CD is the correct version for your machine. By putting just the absolute bare minimum on so that it boots, doing the rest of the install *should* ensure you get the correct versions of everything. [18:48] hmm [18:49] MOSJ: is the CD you created the http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso or the http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso one? [18:50] i386 [18:50] hmm, well, that's the correct image. I'm out of ideas if the mini-iso cannot solve it :( [18:52] maybe I should try linuxmint... [18:53] or install ubuntu, then put lubuntu on top of it, then remove ubuntu? Also a messy way - but you could check that things like pidgin etc. were working for you. [18:54] I tryed install lxde [18:54] on my ubuntu [18:55] no, you need to install lubuntu. lxde <> lubuntu [18:56] MOSJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu [18:56] But cannot I use another graphic interface on ubuntu? [18:56] Like [18:56] install ubuntu [18:56] and after install LXDE [18:57] and at login screen change gnome to lxde? [18:57] MOSJ: no, lubuntu will install lxde and then add lubuntu. at login screen select lubuntu (not lxde) [18:57] ahh [18:57] so [18:57] thats because didn't worked [18:58] if you already have lxde, you can add lubuntu to it. [18:58] hmmm [18:58] log into lxde, get a terminal session and follow the notes at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu to add lubuntu-desktop [18:58] I wil try next weekend === andrea is now known as Guest31678 [18:59] okay. [18:59] today I need the pc functional to watch the walking dead and top gear :P [19:00] hi all :) I have a problem logging in lubuntu. As I put username and password, the system goes back asking my usr and pwd again and again :( Any advice? [19:01] Guest31678: 1st one to check is CAPS lock. it is an easy one to get caught out with :) [19:01] yes, it's not capslock :) [19:01] well... I think you could try to log in at text interface [19:01] just to see what will happen [19:02] ok, I tried to log in in text and it logs [19:02] ctrl-alt-f2, right? There it works.. [19:03] Guest31678: try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword [19:03] just to flush it. [19:03] ok, I'm trying :) [19:13] actually I don't understand why if I put ls /home nothings comes out... [19:14] Guest31678: because /home doesn't exisst [19:15] hmm, wait, nevermind [19:15] anyway as I try to change the psw it says (in italian) error in manipulation autentication token [19:15] change the psw for what? [19:16] the original problem is that if I put my username and password the GUI doesn't login [19:16] it keeps me asking username and pwd again and again... :( [19:17] Guest31678: this is most likely caused by a permissions error in .ICEAuthority in your ~home directory. I'm perplexed that ls -al /home shows nothing [19:18] ok, consider that I have my /home partition on an external HDD [19:19] have you got an entry in /etc/fstab to mount it? [19:20] I tried to mount it using the recovery mode menu [19:20] has it mounted? [19:20] what can I try to do? Now I'm in root shell... [19:21] can you manually mount it? [19:21] how? :) Please be patient :) [19:21] do you have a # prompt? [19:21] yes [19:22] what does fdisk -l show? [19:23] on sdb there is this external HDD [19:23] so it's mounted, right? [19:23] not nessarily, fdisk is just saying it can 'see' it. [19:23] does mount command show it as mounted? [19:25] as an example mine shows as /dev/sdb3 on /home type ext4 (rw) [19:27] Guest31678: I'm sorry, I've got to go. What you need to do is edit the /etc/fstab file to automount what ever partition your /home is on when the computer boots. [19:27] no problem, thanks :) [19:28] how can I edit the fstab file? [19:29] fdisk -l will tell you the partiton (usually, but not always, /dev/sdb1). [19:29] then use the command nano /etc/fstab [19:29] ok, thx :) [19:29] I'll have a look [19:29] I can always reinstall it [19:29] since the /home is separate [19:30] use the existing entries as an example if it is /dev/sdb1 then it would be /dev/sdb /home /ext4 /default [19:30] re-installing will not help until you have edited fstab. Sorry... I've GTG getting shouted! [19:31] please go, and thanks :) [19:40] anyone else can help? Everything seems to be ok, but still it doesn't log in :/ === KAISforza is now known as KaiSforza [20:04] Hello everybody! [20:04] Could someone please help me ... [20:05] Is there is a way to set up keyboard bounce keys in Lubuntu the same way as it is done in XFCE or gnome? [20:05] I mean to setup some interval that prevents double typing one letter [20:55] hey, I got a wacom tablet, it should work in ubuntu but it wont in lubuntu ? [20:57] same drivers [20:57] hmm ... [20:57] maybe I need to restart ? [20:57] lol [20:57] In ubuntu there is a tablet dialog to configure it ... [21:00] restart didnt work [21:00] hmmm [21:03] rawfodog: have a look at http://www.techytalk.info/ubuntu-latest-wacom-tablet-driver-ppa/ and grab that driver. [21:04] it has instructions as to how to roll it back if it does not work. [21:10] cool thanks :D [21:12] rawfodog: do please report back how you get on. [21:13] sudo apt-get install dkms wacom-dkms [21:13] Reading package lists... Done [21:13] Building dependency tree [21:13] Reading state information... Done [21:13] E: Unable to locate package wacom-dkms [21:13] ;_; [21:14] did you add the ppa? [21:17] yup [21:17] copy and pasted [21:17] the code [21:19] rawfodog: hmmmm.... well, that was my best shot :( Did the ppa add okay? [21:20] yup [21:21] I dont understand, ubuntu spedcifically advertises that tablets work on it now [21:21] I dont see why it wouldnt work with lubuntu [21:21] is it a gnome thing ? [21:22] it may be something missing in X for lubuntu. [21:22] like I can type in MAN WACOM and get the manual page .. [21:22] You may want to grab the X11 from http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Downloads [21:22] I think there is basically a SETTING that swtiches it on or off [21:23] I think the driver is here tho. [21:23] At least if you grab that, you can see if there is something that lubuntu do not ship. [21:23] I think there is a flag somewhere in some config file that is set to WACOM = off lol [21:23] the driver appears to be installed in the kernel, we use the standard ubuntu family kernel [21:24] yeah [21:24] But ubuntu has some GUI to turn the wacom on [21:24] So Im thinking "well, the man page is accessable, the driver IS installed, lsusb shows the wacom ..." [21:24] "So it must be some setting somewhere ..." [21:26] So if I can get that CONFIG utility that is in ubuntu for the wacom I think it will configure x11.conf for me [22:03] what has a smaller footprint: xfce4 or lxde? [22:09] rtdos: lubuntu has a lower resource requirement than xubuntu. [22:11] no dice on the wacom tablet [22:11] that sucks [22:11] rawfodog: :( [22:12] it should work ... [22:12] not sure what is shipped in ubuntu that lubuntu does not. [22:12] I kno [22:13] Maybe Ill install ubuntu [22:14] rawfodog: I've found another ppa, if you're willing to try? [22:14] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wacom-control-panel-easily-configure-wacom-tablet.html [22:15] oh yeah [22:15] I just want this to work heheh [22:15] In the past, I've found ubuntugeek to be very good on, well, geek stuff :P [22:16] with the ability to remove ppa's - you can always roll it back. [22:17] GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 360D382BFC695405Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yobbobandana/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [22:17] Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yobbobandana/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [22:17] Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yobbobandana/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [22:17] Some index files failed to d [22:17] rawfodog: I've just fully read it. It appears outdated :( [22:18] ahh, maybe not then :) [22:18] That utility is what I need tho [22:18] you may just need the gpg key.... give me a moment [22:18] I need the same utility that is in ubuntu for lubuntu [22:19] try adding the key... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeyServerInformation [22:20] k [22:20] I added that [22:20] try again ? [22:20] yup. [22:20] I still get that error [22:24] im gonna try ubuntu live cd [22:24] maybe this new model of wacom doesnt even work [22:24] xsetwacom? ... http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Xsetwacom [22:24] maybe that's the little critter you need? [22:25] ill try it :) [22:25] thanks for all the help by the way :) [22:26] that's from http://askubuntu.com/questions/76652/how-can-i-get-my-wacom-tablet-to-use-the-mouse-in-relative-touchpad-mode [22:26] E: Unable to locate package xsetwacom [22:27] brb === 17SAATCJI is now known as h4ckm3 [22:58] ubuntu liveCD wouldn't even load lol [22:58] so I guess this wacom isnt gonna work [22:58] so much for "wacom support" [23:00] yeah?.. its out of the box for me Fudge [23:00] Fudge: sorry... [23:00] rawfodog: ^^ [23:01] Hmmm [23:01] holstein, your wacom works in lubuntu out of the box ? [23:02] rawfodog: i plugged it in in several buntu's and it worked [23:02] HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm [23:02] interestting ... [23:02] lubuntu = ubuntu... same kernel and driver support [23:02] maybe cause Im on 64bit ? [23:02] * holstein shrugs [23:02] Yeah I know holstein , phil and I were talking about this earlier [23:02] nah... i tried it on 64bit 10.04 for sure [23:02] it should work [23:02] Ill try my other computer running lubuntu [23:03] maybe it will work on that [23:03] So, can you use it as a mouse pointer aswell ? or is it only active in a program ? [23:03] brb, trying on another lubuntu machine [23:06] lol holstein it doesnt work on my other computer [23:06] so maybe lubuntu is compatible with this model [23:07] or you are a liar ;) [23:07] hello guys [23:07] rawfodog: when im near the actual hardware, i'll plug it in to whatever version of whatever you like [23:07] anyways.. good luck [23:07] anyone here used heimdall before ?? [23:18] phillw, holstein , think I found the problem. 11.04 doesn't have the drivers ! [23:20] rawfodog: most odd. [23:20] sudo apt-get install wacom-dkms [23:20] whoops [23:20] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860985&page=2 [23:20] There is a work around but it's buggy etc. [23:22] rawfodog: what about the site from earlier that had the drivers? [23:24] gilir: are you sure the blueman patch is correct? [23:24] NotShowIn is enough to stop autostart [23:24] ahh, it doesn't - says they are built in.... now I AM confused! [23:25] micahg, it should, it's not the first autostart desktop file I fix this way [23:25] micahg, but I can double check it with a PPA [23:26] gilir: let me know, I'm planning to update to 1.23 this week to fix the main crash and some other bugs, I'll wait to include this as well [23:26] micahg, great thanks :) [23:26] gilir: BTW, you could just hand edit the file as well :) [23:26] micahg, any progress on lightdm-gtk-greeter ? [23:27] gilir: gah, yeah, it's on my list, but I have some updates I have to get out first tonight, should be in by beta 2 freeze [23:27] micahg, ok, but let me know if you are short in time, I can help on this [23:28] gilir: I just have to merge 2 source versions, one has the upgrade logic, one is based on Debian's svn branch [23:30] micahg, maybe just doing the logic one first, to please fondations people :) And do a proper merge / sync with Debian later [23:31] gilir: if I get stuck, I will do that, I replied that it'll be in by beta freeze to the release list and no one panicked, so I think I'm ok [23:32] release team never panic, or should never show it ;) [23:33] they're cool cookies :)