[05:24] <vibhav> Good Morning
[09:08] <ajmitch> Laney: how goes your haskell rebuilding-the-world?
[09:46] <ajmitch> Laney: ok to add haskell-attoparsec-text to bug 955521 ?
[10:57] <ajmitch> whoops, didn't spot one of those packages was synced & waiting in the source NEW queue :)
[11:03] <iulian> ajmitch: Don't bugger up like I did. :(
[11:04] <ajmitch> iulian: what did you do wrong?
[11:05]  * ajmitch synced a package that was needed for another to build, just didn't see it in source NEW before syncing
[11:05] <iulian> ajmitch: Those few syncs that shouldn't have been done yet?
[11:05] <ajmitch> so I guess an archive admin can reject my sync
[11:05] <ajmitch> iulian: they'll get sorted out soon enough
[11:05] <iulian> Well yea...
[11:05] <ajmitch> just have to wait for some other packages to get approved from NEW & then they can build
[11:05]  * iulian nods.
[11:07]  * iulian is off now.
[11:07] <iulian> Thanks again ajmitch. :)
[11:07] <ajmitch> I didn't mean to chase you off :)
[11:09] <iulian> Hah, I'm sure you didn't. I've got loads of other stuff to do. :(
[11:18] <Laney> ajmitch: yeah. we should do something systematic about that bug really
[11:19] <ajmitch> Laney: just syncing a few more, I've noticed a few new packages that need to get dragged in
[11:20] <ajmitch> hopefully all this can be sorted by beta freeze
[11:20] <Laney> good work
[11:20] <Laney> want to poke an archive admin to denew?
[11:20] <ajmitch> might not be the best time of day for that :)
[11:21] <Laney> someone will see it when they see it
[11:21] <ajmitch> I might poke someone tomorrow about it
[15:53] <iamgood> hi i wanna become a network and security programmer
[15:53] <iamgood> how can i ?
[15:53] <iamgood> please guide me
[15:54] <ScottK> Laney: deNew'd
[15:55] <Laney> ScottK: Thanks a lot
[17:41] <Pikkachu> hi, I tried to compile pidgin in 11.10 but failed, ./configure is ok but make keeps complaining about missing .libs/x.tpo files
[17:51] <Laney> ScottK: A few more up in NEW for you if you'd be so kind
[17:51]  * Laney disappears to the shop
[17:51] <fdoving> Pikkachu: you probably need the build-deps, apt-get build-dep pidgin or something similar.
[18:00] <Pikkachu> sorry I was disconnected
[18:00] <Pikkachu> can anyone help me?
[18:01] <fdoving> Pikkachu: do you have all the build-deps installed? you can also try a make clean, and then re-run configure.
[18:03] <Pikkachu> fdoving: if $apt-get install build-dep didn't lie to me, yes?
[18:04] <Pikkachu> can't anyone actually try the same as me??
[18:05] <Pikkachu> $apt-get source pidgin && cd pidgin-dir && ./configure && make?
[18:05] <Pikkachu> Ubuntu 11.10 here
[18:08] <jtaylor> does it work with debuild -us -uc?
[18:08] <jtaylor> maybe some patches must be applied first
[19:13] <ajmitch> Laney: I'll try & do another pass of haskell packages this evening, it looks like progress has been made though :)
[19:15] <ajmitch> I see you've synced a few packages into NEW that I was going to eventually get to :)
[19:22] <Laney> good stuff
[19:23] <Laney> it is progressing still, albeit more slowly
[19:38] <ajmitch> Laney: switching to sbuild helped me read the failures a bit better - is there a way you can get sbuild to cache packages that it has downloaded, like pbuilder can?
[19:38] <Laney> don't think so, I just use apt-cacher-ng
[19:39] <jtaylor> nice upstream answer to a patch of mine: "are you willing and able to swear on your life that the patch will not break any system where fftw currently runs"
[19:39] <ajmitch> ah right
[19:39] <jtaylor> what am I supposed to anwser to that except no
[19:40] <ajmitch> jtaylor: unless you have every obscure combination of hardware & software? :)
[19:41] <yellowduino> reminds me of my managers questions :D
[19:42] <ajmitch> "guarantee that this code will never in any circumstances have bugs"
[19:53] <JanC> that answer sounds more like a half-joke to me  ;)
[19:55] <jtaylor> apparently not as they won't apply the patch until its tested everywhere ._.
[19:55] <jtaylor> and its a 3 line diff in the build system :/
[19:56] <jtaylor> at least they have no issues with it being added to debian
[19:56] <JanC> they don't have development releases that get tested?
[19:57] <jtaylor> it is a minor issue, it only breaks package dependencies and maybe as-needed builds
[20:51] <broder> ScottK: looks like the lintian lab rebuild has finished. what was it that you wanted to look for?
[21:23] <micahg> apt-cacher-ng FTW
[21:25] <ajmitch> micahg: yeah, when I'm at home I have a local mirror, so I don't worry about it too much
[21:50] <plipp> Hi, I have added '99-antusb.rules' into /etc/udev/rules.d and restarted udev, yet I seem to get permission issues when accessing the device
[21:51] <plipp> The content of the file is:
[21:51] <plipp> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0fcf", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1008", MODE="666"
[21:59] <ajmitch> Laney: fwiw, haskell-leksah is missing a build-dep on libghc-quickcheck2-dev - I'd file a bug on debian but that'll have to wait until I have time to update sid :)
[21:59]  * ajmitch shall do it later today though
[22:00] <ScottK> broder: Thanks.
[22:00] <ScottK> Laney: I've been hitting a bunch of them as I have time.
[22:02] <ajmitch> ScottK: thanks for approving them, there's almost light at the end of the tunnel with the haskell stuff :)
[22:04] <ScottK> Is haskell-yesod-routes expected to only get builton some archs?
[22:07] <ajmitch> it looks unbuilt on debian as well on arm* & powerpc
[22:07] <ajmitch> there are a few like that which build-depend on ghc-ghci, which is provided by ghc
[22:09]  * ajmitch doesn't know nearly enough about it all to say why it's been done that way
[22:10] <ajmitch> looks like it's intentional, and provided only on a few archs
[22:28] <ScottK> OK
[22:30] <ScottK> All caught up now.
[22:38] <ScottK> debfx: Do you want to fix pythonqt in Ubuntu or would you rather I do it?
[22:39] <diarmuid> Hello I would love to get involved with packaging and maintaining Xubuntu/Ubuntu.
[22:41] <diarmuid> Or developing for Xubuntu how would I go about starting this?
[22:42] <debfx> ScottK: I can upload it
[22:42] <ScottK> debfx: OK. Great.
[22:42] <Rcart> diarmuid: Take a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[23:23] <Laney> ScottK: yeah, in general Haskell support is only 100% on x86
[23:24] <Laney> i'll need to get some OOD binaries removed manually
[23:24] <ajmitch> cull that ftbfs list a bit, there are a few too many haskell packages on there
[23:25] <ajmitch> (nearly) everything I've synced has built on all archs
[23:26] <ScottK> Laney: OK.   Thanks.
[23:28] <Laney> sigh, one ppc buildd out of action
[23:28] <ajmitch> that won't help it catch up
[23:29] <micahg> Laney: I'll get that looked at, thanks for noticing
[23:29] <ajmitch> though I'm impressed that it only has 5 jobs in the queue
[23:30] <micahg> been a slow weekend
[23:30] <micahg> well, I guess more a slow big package weekend (and someone forgot to get libreoffice uploaded :D)
[23:30] <ajmitch> seems to have only been haskell stuff thrown at the buildds :)
[23:31] <micahg> yeah, which is relatively fast builds
[23:31] <ajmitch> yup
[23:32] <ajmitch> Laney: any other big transitions planned for this week? :)
[23:33]  * micahg was debating doing hdf5, but probably won't have the time
[23:33] <Laney> libc7
[23:33] <jtaylor> is hdf5 ready in debian?
[23:33] <ajmitch> micahg: I heard that could be painful
[23:33] <jtaylor> if it is I could help
[23:33] <micahg> yeah, all minus a few packages
[23:33] <ajmitch> we could always try for that boost transition that was after DIF
[23:33] <micahg> jtaylor: still needs an FFe :)
[23:34] <micahg> ajmitch: I think you should recalibrate your pain meter :0
[23:35] <ajmitch> micahg: yeah that'd be asking for trouble the week of beta freeze
[23:35] <micahg> jtaylor: we should do a test rebuild before starting with hdf5, do you have time for that?
[23:35] <micahg> PPAs are empty at the moment :)
[23:35] <jtaylor> maybe
[23:35] <ajmitch> how many packages are involved in the hdf5 transition?
[23:35] <micahg> ~50 IIRC
[23:35] <ajmitch> not so bad
[23:36] <jtaylor> http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/hdf5.html
[23:36] <jtaylor> but it are lots of science packages :/
[23:36] <micahg> if we remove the stuff not in testing, it's ready for us
[23:36] <jtaylor> and those are often of mediocre quality
[23:36] <ajmitch> jtaylor: lots of slow builds?
[23:36] <jtaylor> and that
[23:48] <jtaylor> Laney: can you maybe set up a tracker for hdf5?
[23:48] <jtaylor> though I don't think I'll have time and it is very late
[23:49] <Laney> if you give me the details
[23:49] <Laney> but not tonight
[23:49] <Laney> are you sure you want to do this at this stage?
[23:49] <jtaylor> no
[23:49] <jtaylor> probably a bad idea
[23:51] <micahg> well, the binaries of hdf5 aren't seeded, so we still have ~4 weeks
[23:52] <micahg> we had this same version in lucid as we have now in precise, so I think it's worth doing if people have time (hopefully is just a rebuild test and uploads since all the work was done in Debian)
[23:53] <jtaylor> I can start a rebuild tomorrow and see how it looks
[23:54] <micahg> jtaylor: thanks, I can help with the uploads later this week (Tue night/wed)