| mattt | up wayyy too early on a sunday :( | 07:22 |
|---|---|---|
| MartijnVdS | mattt: watching F1 eh? :) | 08:06 |
| mattt | MartijnVdS: working :P | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | aww | 08:12 |
| popey | Morning | 08:37 |
| MartijnVdS | \o popey | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:56 |
| christel | morning lovelies | 09:06 |
| popey | Happy mothers day christel | 09:06 |
| MooDoo | happy mothers day as well from me christel :) xx <3 | 09:09 |
| christel | thank you :) | 09:10 |
| MooDoo | shame i'm having to work :( | 09:18 |
| christel | aww | 09:19 |
| christel | i am having to "celebrate" on my own -- apparently my first "present" is for the boy wonder to have a lie-in.. and i was expecting breakfast in bed! | 09:20 |
| christel | (otoh the sun is out and i am rather enjoying being able to enjoy a slow mug of coffee in peace) | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | sun is out? blimey it's snowing here | 09:22 |
| christel | woha really? | 09:22 |
| MooDoo | yeah | 09:22 |
| christel | it's really sunny here -- yesterday was pretty grey and really cold, woke up today and it's super sunny and lovely | 09:23 |
| christel | (well, i havent ventured outside -- it may be freezing) | 09:23 |
| christel | where are you at MooDoo | 09:23 |
| popey | yeah, i was near blinded when i opened the curtains this morning! | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | christel: nottingham | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | looking out the windows, it's stopped now, and turned to rain....typical | 09:24 |
| christel | hehe | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 09:50 |
| christel | morning AlanBell :) | 09:51 |
| popey | directhex: thanks for wrapping the xbox360 in all that red bubble wrap. Gave me something to wrap wifeys mothers-day stuff in ☺ | 09:56 |
| MooDoo | morning AlanBell | 09:57 |
| popey | MartijnVdS: my mate has found a flat in Ijburg | 10:04 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: One of the few places in Amsterdam with 500/500 fibre :) | 10:05 |
| popey | lol | 10:05 |
| MartijnVdS | (that's not a datacentre) | 10:05 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| directhex | popey: heh | 11:00 |
| directhex | popey: how's it treating you? | 11:00 |
| meet | like i want to press f3 key to toggle between touchpad on or off.. anyway to do this? | 11:13 |
| seeker | Anyone else having Internet connectivity issues? | 11:31 |
| MooDoo | seeker: home or work? | 11:32 |
| seeker | Home | 11:37 |
| dwatkins | Which ISP are you on, seeker? | 11:41 |
| popey | directhex: kids love it ☺ | 11:41 |
| Seeker` | thats weird | 11:41 |
| popey | directhex: they're both currently doing their own profiles | 11:41 |
| Seeker` | I booted up my desktop, internet came back to live | 11:41 |
| Seeker` | *life | 11:41 |
| popey | i only have one set of component ports on my telly and the DVD player uses them ⍨ | 11:42 |
| popey | so am currently using the composite port for xbox 360 which doesn't look great | 11:42 |
| dwatkins | I connected my xbox 360 via VGA, it increased the resolution. | 11:42 |
| MartijnVdS | Use the XBox as a DVD player | 11:44 |
| MartijnVdS | also, use HDMI for the XBox | 11:44 |
| popey | no hdmi port on xbox | 11:46 |
| popey | the dvd player is attached to the amp, the xbox isnt | 11:46 |
| dwatkins | My xbox RROD'ed, need to get a new one when I can afford it. | 11:46 |
| popey | its a bit of a faff | 11:46 |
| dwatkins | It's handy that I can use the PS3 as a media player and DVD and toy. | 11:49 |
| popey | wow, component is much nicer | 11:57 |
| meet | how to set keyboard shortcuts through terminal? | 12:15 |
| StevenR_ | meet: what do you mean? Keyboard shortcuts tend to be for graphical user interfaces. | 12:16 |
| meet | stevenR: ya.. i mean setting up keyboard shortcuts.. | 12:17 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: XBox has no hdmi?! Is it an XBox 1? | 12:17 |
| MartijnVdS | or am I spoiled by all my HDMI devices ;) | 12:17 |
| bigcalm | Ello peeps :) | 12:18 |
| meet | i want to configure the shortcuts for gui. But how do i do that through the terminal window? which file to edit or what? | 12:18 |
| MartijnVdS | howdy bigcalm | 12:18 |
| StevenR_ | meet: I suspect it's all stored in some text config file | 12:18 |
| meet | so how do i setup keyboard shortcuts in general? | 12:18 |
| SpudULike | Hello room. In Thunderbird I've marked a folded as having all messages read. I want to still see these read messages, but Thunderbird seems to be hiding them from me. Anyone know how to turn this feature off? | 12:18 |
| MartijnVdS | meet: which version of Ubuntu do you use? | 12:18 |
| meet | 11.10 gnome 3 | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | meet: Gnome 3, not unity? | 12:19 |
| StevenR_ | meet: it's probably specific to the graphical desktop that you're using | 12:19 |
| meet | martijnVds: ya gnome 3, not unity. :) suits me better | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | In that case.. it's probably very hard. | 12:20 |
| meet | martijnVds: any idea how do i setup keyboard shortcuts? | 12:20 |
| meet | why? | 12:20 |
| MartijnVdS | Because Gnome 3 isn't a pinnacle of customizability | 12:20 |
| meet | so what can i do? any idea where can i find the info/? | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | In Unity you can use ccsm to set some keyboard shortcuts | 12:21 |
| meet | unity does not suit me. rather i am used to gnome now so i need help for that. the ones i had already do not work directly. | 12:22 |
| meet | martijnVds: will ccsm work for gnome? | 12:22 |
| StevenR_ | yay. CMOS checksum error. | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | StevenR_: Press F1 to continue | 12:23 |
| StevenR_ | MartijnVdS: or DEL to enter setup | 12:23 |
| StevenR_ | ahh well. The mobo is 9 years old. | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | StevenR_: CR2032 :) | 12:24 |
| StevenR_ | if I used it more, I'd replace the cell, but it's an old box I run mythtv on at my parents' house | 12:24 |
| === imexil1 is now known as imexil | ||
| penguin42 | hmm, Aardman have made a 3D animation - that might actually be worth seeing; not seen any 3d stuff yet | 13:50 |
| jacobw | afternoon | 13:51 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: the Pirates thing? | 13:52 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Nod | 13:52 |
| penguin42 | can someone check that they can see http://www.treblig.org/debug/slidemergesmall.png - some people are saying they are getting errors - works for me | 13:53 |
| MartijnVdS | It's a PNG | 13:53 |
| MartijnVdS | works here | 13:53 |
| penguin42 | ok, thanks | 13:53 |
| * jacobw thinks that IE6 doesn't support PNG transparency | 13:53 | |
| MartijnVdS | Yes.. are the complainers using stone-age tech? :) | 13:53 |
| AlanBell | I believe it can do with a hack, but who cares? | 13:53 |
| MartijnVdS | didn't Google give up on IE6 already? | 13:54 |
| jacobw | unfortunately, people are stupid | 13:54 |
| MartijnVdS | tru.dat | 13:54 |
| mattt | ha, tru.dat | 14:09 |
| jacobw | hmm, hud doesn't find firefox->edit->preferences from `firefox` <alt> 'preferences' | 14:14 |
| jacobw | ofc, now i try to reproduce it, it does :p | 14:15 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Phil Bull] GNOME Docs hackfest in Brno - http://philbull.livejournal.com/60292.html | 16:03 |
| awilkins | *sigh* Sundays.... | 16:58 |
| MooDoo | +1 awilkins | 16:59 |
| mattt | bleh | 16:59 |
| jacobw | i currently use gmane for reading high volume lists that i don't want to subscribe to | 17:12 |
| jacobw | i'm happy with it, but interested to know what other archives are used | 17:12 |
| penguin42 | jacobw: I tend to read mailing lists with mutt, judicious use of D to kill threads; for news feeds/blogs etc I tend to use Google Reader | 17:25 |
| dogmatic69 | hi all, just had my desktop crash ~ 7 times, been watching the logs now and getting 'chrome[3667]: segfault at 7fff4e852ff8 ip 0000372a7100a001 sp 00007fff4e853000 error 6' | 17:48 |
| dogmatic69 | a whole bunch of them | 17:48 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know what it could be? | 17:48 |
| dogmatic69 | monitor just goes blank and shows the default 'not plugged in' message, so its like gfx card dies. | 17:49 |
| dogmatic69 | a few times it just hangs, cant move the mouse etc | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: Well that dmesg is chrome dieing - whether that's relating to everything else is a bit difficult to say, do you get any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 17:50 |
| dogmatic69 | penguin42: http://pastebin.com/J9bFXznT | 17:52 |
| dogmatic69 | not seeing anything jump out at me, not that I know what to look for :D | 17:53 |
| ali1234 | why can't i reopen bug 907837 | 17:53 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 907837 in Ayatana Design "difficult to resize window with 12.04 overlay scrollbar" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907837 | 17:53 |
| dogmatic69 | just kicked me out to the login | 17:54 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: That looks OK, but is there a /var/log/Xorg0.log.old - that should have the one from when it last crashed | 17:54 |
| dogmatic69 | ok, it just crashed again, .old http://pastebin.com/7EznYfjy and the 0.log again http://pastebin.com/ind12bF7 | 17:55 |
| * dogmatic69 will not open chrome just yet | 17:55 | |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: Those look ok, so it doesn't look like the X server is dieing | 17:57 |
| dogmatic69_ | just opened firefox and it hung | 17:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | on a different pc now | 17:58 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: When it hangs can you ctrl-alt-F1 to get a text console? | 17:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | nothing seems to work, not tried that though. | 17:59 |
| penguin42 | No route to host, his net has gone away | 17:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | it only hangs sometimes, mostly it will completely die | 17:59 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: Might be worth leaving it on memtest for an hour or two | 18:00 |
| dogmatic69_ | :S | 18:00 |
| dogmatic69_ | how do I do that? | 18:00 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: Reboot, use shift just after the bios to get the GRUB menu, at the bottom should be memtest | 18:01 |
| dogmatic69_ | the ram usage has been bad that last while, always using like 6 / 7 gigs of my 8. and swapping almost daily | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: Leave it running and go {watch a film, walk the cat, etc} | 18:01 |
| dogmatic69_ | he he | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | right, time to make food | 18:01 |
| dogmatic69_ | penguin42: thanks, will try that out. | 18:02 |
| dogmatic69_ | penguin42: just std memtest or the serial one? | 18:03 |
| dogmatic69_ | gawd... its all red | 18:04 |
| dogmatic69_ | 4k errors already | 18:04 |
| dogmatic69_ | is that normal? | 18:04 |
| popey | ali1234: whats that app you're using in the video? some dbus explorer? | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | yes | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | it affects any app which has a main window split by a resizable panel | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | and then a list in the left side | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | for example, banshee, rhythmbox | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | but i happened to be using dfeet to test another bug at the time | 18:09 |
| popey | trying to make it happen here | 18:09 |
| popey | dfeet thats it | 18:09 |
| ali1234 | wow, the horizontal resizer on rhythmbox has just been removed rather than make any attempt to fix it | 18:14 |
| popey | i still ahve one here | 18:19 |
| ali1234 | the two panels are still there, you just can't resize them now | 18:20 |
| popey | which two? | 18:20 |
| popey | i have 4 | 18:20 |
| ali1234 | artist and album | 18:20 |
| ali1234 | the leftmost part still has the resize on it but you have to make the window tiny to trigger the bug on that one | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | popey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86C1-FH5ZK0 | 18:22 |
| popey | yeah, just looks like a bug to me | 18:26 |
| ali1234 | which? | 18:27 |
| popey | well its the same bug | 18:28 |
| popey | IMO | 18:28 |
| popey | internal panels arent resizable | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | yes, i know it's the same problem | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | but the question is, where is the bug? | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | does the design spec have anything to say about this situation? | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | if it does, then is the bug in the implementation? | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | and none of this explains why i can't reopen the bug | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | the bug manifested in gedit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ZNm1C1eEw | 18:30 |
| popey | i dunno, will bring it up with the design guys tomorrow, i am in the office sat with them | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | cheers | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | anyway, dinner tiem | 18:31 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: Nope, not normal! | 18:38 |
| * penguin42 waits for his pudding to bake | 18:44 | |
| Seeker` | hey | 19:16 |
| czajkowski | whoo now hve the new mail beep turned off, now to find out if I can turn the deleting a folder beep off | 19:31 |
| czajkowski | am hoping by using http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/configurable-notifyosd-bubbles-for.html I cna get rid of the notifcation bubble | 19:32 |
| czajkowski | worst feature yet tbh, or maybe it;s not working right on my machine. but when mail arrives nad I move my mouse overit, it kinda goes away, so move mouse away and it comes back and repet a few times. | 19:32 |
| AlanBell | that is working "right" | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | you are supposed to be able to click through them to stuff under, and they fade to let you see what is under them | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | well that is well annoying L:( and the person who thought it was right needs a goos clip around the ears | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | you can tell Mark that at UDS | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | on the ubuntu for android thing there are notifications for incoming calls that you can click on to answer the phone | 19:35 |
| AlanBell | I think it is a bit annoying that notifications can't be interacted with | 19:35 |
| czajkowski | my problem is I dont always want to see a mail notificaton and if I really have to see it me clicking it should make it go away not vanish and reappear | 19:36 |
| ali1234 | lol | 19:36 |
| ali1234 | i agree | 19:37 |
| ali1234 | i don't see mail notifications though because i use gmail | 19:37 |
| ali1234 | and while pidgin does turn the messaging icon blue on getting a new mail, it doesn't pop up a notification bubble, because the integration is incomplete | 19:38 |
| ali1234 | obviously i don't use evolution - it cannot handle my inbox at all | 19:38 |
| czajkowski | I use thunderbird and love it | 19:39 |
| ali1234 | thunderbird? | 19:39 |
| czajkowski | but the bubles I just fid annioying I'm well able to monitor my and kno when to review my inbox | 19:39 |
| czajkowski | ali1234: yes | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | I don't mind the bubbles, but if one pops up that is interesting I want to click on it and be in the message. Not have to go find thunderbird all by myself | 19:40 |
| ali1234 | i agree with that too | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | yupp | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | it just seems poorly implemented and only half works | 19:40 |
| ali1234 | but come on, how long has this feature been around? | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | so if something half works why use it | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | it works exactly as it is supposed to | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | people have been saying this since it was first made | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | yes, it works exactly as designed, and everyone who said it was a bad design got shot down over a year ago | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253 | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | wow has it really been that long? | 19:41 |
| popey | i would not be surprised if bubbles were clickable in a future release | 19:48 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | i'm only surprised that it has taken so long for you to notice how problematic these things are | 19:49 |
| bigcalm | popey: you have an obscure sense of 'traffic' | 19:49 |
| AlanBell | I had no bubbles up until a few weeks ago | 19:49 |
| popey | heh | 19:49 |
| AlanBell | if your right monitor is lower than your left monitor you get no bubbles | 19:49 |
| ali1234 | while we're at it, the 1 inch gap between the panel and the notification looks just as stupid now as it did when it was implemented | 19:49 |
| AlanBell | ali1234: ah, in that case position the top of your right monitor 1 inch below the top of your left monitor :) | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | my right monitor is lower by just enough that the bubble is in the exact location it should be instead of 1 inch below | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | yes, basically i already did that accidentally | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | i even reported it as a bug... 6 months or so ag | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | o | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | or maybe i went to do it and it was already reported | 19:51 |
| AlanBell | bug 935131 | 19:52 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 935131 in libnotify (Ubuntu) "if the rightmost screen is not as high as the aggregate rectangle notifications are off screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935131 | 19:52 |
| ali1234 | well thats not my bug | 19:52 |
| ali1234 | bug 779612 | 19:54 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 779612 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Notifications appear vertically shifted on second monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779612 | 19:54 |
| ali1234 | did you just upgrade from lts today or something? | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | hmm? | 19:57 |
| ali1234 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/71380064/volume.png ah remember when you ddidn't have to use one of the awful new themes? | 19:57 |
| AlanBell | I like the new theme | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | i don't | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | it looks terrible when you use gnome-panel 3 | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | all three of them | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | hmm a bug | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | hmm another bug | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | bugs | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | argh ANOTHER BUG | 20:00 |
| ali1234 | ok i have some bug reporting to do | 20:00 |
| AlanBell | wonder if anyone is still maintaining notify-osd | 20:01 |
| popey | bug 811475 | 20:01 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 811475 in One Hundred Paper Cuts "Descender letters (g j p q y) get their tail cut off in current song" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811475 | 20:01 |
| popey | *boggle* how long that has been open | 20:02 |
| ali1234 | i wish apport and launchpad were smart enough to report bugs on PPA instead of just saying "not official package gtfo" | 20:02 |
| popey | "This is one of many problems with the current layout. It will be fixed by the | 20:02 |
| popey | new layout some time." | 20:02 |
| ali1234 | popey: not as long as my notify-osd bug | 20:02 |
| popey | heh | 20:02 |
| AlanBell | wow, that is papercutish | 20:04 |
| ali1234 | bug 958769 | 20:04 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 958769 in kazam (Ubuntu) "recording region selector window can't be moved over the top panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958769 | 20:04 |
| ali1234 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1gZVRTo6o | 20:11 |
| ali1234 | basically, indicators don't have a delay if you very quickly mouse over them on the way to a menu item | 20:11 |
| ali1234 | the old gnome panels used to have this | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | you now have to carefully move the mouse to where you are going without going over something else on the way | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | its like one of those steady hand games | 20:13 |
| * popey confirms | 20:13 | |
| ali1234 | i didn't report it yet! | 20:13 |
| ali1234 | or you mean kazam? | 20:13 |
| popey | yes | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | any idea what i should report this against? | 20:15 |
| popey | and whilst confirming discocvered bug 958777 | 20:15 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 958777 in kazam (Ubuntu) "region window can be dragged off screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958777 | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | yeah with alt-drag you can drag it completely off the screen | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't hurt recording though | 20:15 |
| popey | sure, makes no sense tho :) | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | true enough | 20:16 |
| ali1234 | the bugs sure are coming in fast btw | 20:16 |
| ali1234 | almost one a minute on a sunday evening? | 20:16 |
| popey | some are automagic | 20:16 |
| popey | and not on ubuntu | 20:16 |
| popey | bu70 | 20:17 |
| popey | bah | 20:17 |
| popey | bug 958770 | 20:17 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 958770 in NUnit V2 "Add Assert.Throws( Func<T> ) for properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958770 | 20:17 |
| popey | bug 958771 | 20:17 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 958771 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "package grub-pc 1.98-1ubuntu13 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 10 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958771 | 20:17 |
| popey | bug 958772 | 20:17 |
| lubotu3 | Error: Bug #958772 is a duplicate of bug #957441, but it is private (https://launchpad.net/bugs/957441) | 20:17 |
| popey | hehe | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | so, any idea about my indicator thing? | 20:17 |
| popey | sunday is a typical evening for bug hunting I think | 20:17 |
| popey | i dont understand it | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | report against indicator package or design? | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | er | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | basically | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | click the power button thing | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | the move the mouse diagonally in a straight line to where it says "system settings" | 20:18 |
| popey | hah, i see | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | over the word "system" | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | this takes the mouse over the user indicator, which opens | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | then you end up clicking on "switch user" accidentally | 20:19 |
| dogmatic69 | if you run memtest on good ram, will it show 0 errors? or is there an acceptable limit? | 20:19 |
| popey | indicator-session | 20:19 |
| popey | I'd file against that | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | in gnome, if you made this kind of motion very quickly, it would simply ignore the intermediate things you travelled over | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | in unity, it's time to play the steady hand game | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | dogmatic69: good ram should have zero errors | 20:19 |
| dogmatic69 | :S | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | but erros isn't necessarily bad ram | 20:20 |
| dogmatic69 | so 500k errors is not good ram? | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | you might be using the wrong clock or voltage | 20:20 |
| dogmatic69 | been the same for 3+ years | 20:20 |
| popey | or wrong ram | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | 500k errors is OMG GET A NEW COMPUTER | 20:20 |
| dogmatic69 | :/ | 20:20 |
| dogmatic69 | then my bank acc is gonna have 500k errors | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | 1 or 2 errors is enough to completely mess up the machine | 20:20 |
| dogmatic69 | bah | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | popey: hmm indicator-session? | 20:21 |
| dogmatic69 | and its old ram, Its going to be $$$ | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | the bug affects all indicators | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | dogmatic69: yeah, so just buy a new motherboard cpu and ram | 20:22 |
| ali1234 | i'm going to open it as a design bug | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | it's a feature request really | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | this might actually be a regression in gtk3? menus are doing it too | 20:27 |
| ali1234 | but maybe it is because they are global menus | 20:27 |
| ali1234 | firefox bookmarks toolbar is still showing the old behaviour | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | right clikc pop up menus too | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | hmm yes ok, this affects anything that involves the top panel | 20:30 |
| AlanBell | wonder if I can fix that rhythmbox bug | 20:32 |
| * popey installs banshee | 20:36 | |
| ali1234 | this must have a name | 20:37 |
| ali1234 | every single desktop environemtn does it- except for unity | 20:38 |
| diplo | evening all | 20:38 |
| popey | why have we regressed back to one pixel wide handles for resizing windows? | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | because the dropshadow utterly killed the performance? | 20:38 |
| daubers | popey: I had that for a little bit. Updated recently and it went away | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | the dropshadow is still there, you just can't use it any more :( | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | there is a bug for it | 20:39 |
| ali1234 | how to i get the right-click-title-bar on maximised windows again? | 20:40 |
| daubers | ah no, it's still there :( | 20:40 |
| AlanBell | ali1234: alt-space | 20:40 |
| ali1234 | doesn't work | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | wfm | 20:41 |
| ali1234 | i have disabled the hud | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | that HUD alt key binding has been a complete farce | 20:41 |
| ali1234 | yep | 20:42 |
| MartijnVdS | Except disabling it disables ALL alt bindings | 20:42 |
| MartijnVdS | or has that been fixed | 20:42 |
| AlanBell | it has caused so many issues in its various implementations, and it has nothing to do with the functionality of the HUD | 20:42 |
| ali1234 | i was going to say "everyne knows you;re supposed to resize windows by spressing alt-space, selecting resize, then shuffling around with the arrow keys until the window is the size you want" | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | the root problem is that they are trying to use a meta key as a single keypress | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | i have actually seen idiots claim this is a better way to resize on OMG ubuntu | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | but since that way doesn't even work now | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | i can't make a sarcastic joke out of it | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | it's just well and truly broken :/ | 20:44 |
| SuperEngineer | 0/ | 20:44 |
| popey | ali1234: erk, that resize option is nastyily broken | 20:45 |
| popey | do you know if there is a bug for it? | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | no idea. i did notice it was broken too | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | but since i never use it, i don't care :) | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | it is only interesting to me in that it is yet another thing that worked until unity came along | 20:46 |
| SuperEngineer | just booted to 10.04 - got sick of 12.04 app version fails [evolution format not compatible with 10.04 version, gwibber won't successfully authorise facebook [etc,etc] | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | "gwibber won't successfully authorise facebook" - funny story | 20:47 |
| SuperEngineer | .... time for bug reporting methinks - if only I hadn't got other stuff to do as well... | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | i was trying to explain to the dash lens developers why i don't want every website integrated into the desktop | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | one of the reasons is, as soon as the website changes, the lens will break | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | just like gwibber always does | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | they didn't listen of course | 20:48 |
| SuperEngineer | ali1234: +1 on that | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | "we will keep it up to date" they said | 20:48 |
| hamitron | dunno why an OS can't be an OS, and a website a website | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | "well how about you start by keeping gwibber up to date" i said | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: http://www.quickmeme.com/They-said/ ? | 20:49 |
| SuperEngineer | as in... [I have a piece of paer in my hand - #chamberlin said] | 20:49 |
| SuperEngineer | btw - my comments are not a whinge at Ubuntu... but at the apps within | 20:52 |
| dogmatic69 | how is that for luck... first ram module removed, no errors \o/ | 20:53 |
| MartijnVdS | hotplugging RAM? | 20:53 |
| dogmatic69 | nope | 20:53 |
| dogmatic69 | new ram in the post, + shiny ssd | 20:54 |
| SuperEngineer | "first ram module removed, no errors" = a successful lambing at a farm? | 20:54 |
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| dogmatic69 | right, pc not crashing any more | 21:06 |
| dogmatic69 | and its actually faster with 6gigs of good ram vs 8gigs of broken ram | 21:07 |
| SuperEngineer | dogmatic69: did you try cleaning the contact strip on the ram & reseating... may be worth a try | 21:08 |
| dogmatic69 | SuperEngineer: not tried that, the pc is 5+ years old | 21:08 |
| dogmatic69 | its a intel Q6600 and I got it virtually the day they were released | 21:08 |
| SuperEngineer | [or running a full ram test?]... if pc is 5+ old - worth a clean [& a precautionary reseating of 'good' ram | 21:09 |
| SuperEngineer | ...you'd be surprised how mant times I've resussitated dead machines by cleaning/reseating/swapping slots | 21:10 |
| dogmatic69 | I just ran mem test for 2 1/2 hours | 21:10 |
| SuperEngineer | &...? | 21:10 |
| dogmatic69 | is that memtest like defrag for mem? | 21:11 |
| dogmatic69 | memtest == 500k errors | 21:11 |
| SuperEngineer | ouch | 21:11 |
| dogmatic69 | removed the dodgy one and 0 errors, running 3x 2gigs now | 21:11 |
| SuperEngineer | clean /reseat but probably the big ram bin in the sky is correct | 21:12 |
| dogmatic69 | got 4x corsair 6400c5c in the shopping cart | 21:12 |
| SuperEngineer | :) | 21:12 |
| dogmatic69 | get that + SSD and it should be good for a while again | 21:12 |
| dogmatic69 | how easy would it be to reinstall ubuntu on ssd and tell it to use the /home/{me} on another disk? | 21:13 |
| SuperEngineer | just an a quickie... last week got sent to site where basic report was "failed - smells of burning"] | 21:13 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 21:14 |
| SuperEngineer | I arrived on site & they'd left it switched on! | 21:14 |
| dogmatic69 | lmao | 21:14 |
| dogmatic69 | converted into a paper weight | 21:14 |
| SuperEngineer | lmfao is just what I did | 21:14 |
| dogmatic69 | did it still smell like burning? | 21:14 |
| SuperEngineer | noooo... much worse - battery on a board had exploded - toxic fumes everywhere! | 21:15 |
| MartijnVdS | magic smoke! | 21:15 |
| * SuperEngineer preferes magic mushrooms | 21:15 | |
| dogmatic69 | tricky to replace the magic smoke, never did find a good supplier | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | popey: I think the rhythmbox thing is a GTK bug | 21:21 |
| AlanBell | on the plus side I do have a patch, but it will stop it truncating very long song names to ellipsise them | 21:22 |
| SuperEngineer | Whilst Slashdot [can] be a p[ain - sometimes you read a real doozy... "New iPad Jailbroken Already" [aww, go on Apple, smile if you dare] | 21:33 |
| jacobw | doozy? | 21:34 |
| jacobw | that's so not a word | 21:34 |
| SuperEngineer | neither is jailbroken | 21:35 |
| jacobw | sure it is | 21:35 |
| jacobw | it comes from the old english, 'gaolbroken' | 21:35 |
| jacobw | ;) | 21:35 |
| SuperEngineer | prove it - goalbreak an iPad | 21:36 |
| SuperEngineer | in old english they would have goal broken or goal-broken | 21:36 |
| jacobw | goal? as in football? | 21:37 |
| * SuperEngineer apologises for being a smart-a** | 21:37 | |
| SuperEngineer | ok - if you insist g-a-o-l... what d'yu want from a man who's been working - perfection? oh,. damn, yes, they all do ;) | 21:39 |
| jacobw | :) | 21:40 |
| SuperEngineer | anyone here trying 12.04, using Gwibber *and* has a 10.04 Gwibber installed? Could it be a conflict [evene though no prob was in 11.10]? | 21:54 |
| SuperEngineer | anyone here know of a [good] Gwibber substitute for monitoring facebook? | 21:55 |
| SuperEngineer | oh wel - just as I thought - I | 21:56 |
| SuperEngineer | *am* unique ;) [mummy always aid I was] | 21:56 |
| SuperEngineer | *said | 21:57 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 21:57 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0mv7DFQF3c | 22:10 |
| popey | reckon that's a compiz bug? | 22:11 |
| AlanBell | yeah, in the resize plugin I should think | 22:15 |
| AlanBell | if it doesn't do that in unity2d | 22:16 |
| popey | ah good call | 22:17 |
| popey | unity 2d is way better | 22:18 |
| popey | it resizes dynamically as you move the keys | 22:18 |
| AlanBell | well so will compiz if you let it | 22:18 |
| popey | I mean OOTB | 22:18 |
| popey | Grrrr | 22:20 |
| AlanBell | yeah, the default settings for compiz really don't show off what it can do, I have no idea why Canonical don't let it shine | 22:20 |
| popey | firefox, i had loads of pinned tabs, and ended up closing the one with all the tabs open, then another firefox window I had | 22:20 |
| popey | so ff remembered the empty one | 22:20 |
| popey | thats utterly broken | 22:20 |
| popey | why the hell would I want to remember a blank window and not a multitabbed window | 22:20 |
| diplo | popey, it's been like that for years | 22:35 |
| popey | which, compiz or ff? | 22:36 |
| diplo | Sorry FF | 22:36 |
| diplo | Always make sure I close / check what windows I have open first | 22:36 |
| diplo | Sure it does it on win 7 as well | 22:36 |
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