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leo-unglaubso, i am on my way home03:46
leo-unglaubhave a nice day03:46
pleia2knome: so I'm confused, we have iso tracking which is one test thing, and then these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo/Short and /Long06:34
pleia2these seem to me to be different things, but the docs seem to imply that all results should be added to the iso tracker06:36
pleia2and do we need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers anymore?06:37
knomepleia2, i don't know. that doesn't look very current, but if it was, this could be something that could be used as the machine URL.09:44
knomepleia2, i suppose you should do the tests that are linked from the tracker, but i'd ask charlie and/or stgraber or the folks behind the tracker09:45
knomemr_pouit, can you ping me when you have uploaded the new logos and the new icon package/any changes needed to change the app menu icon. thanks!09:48
knomemr_pouit, also, where are we at on changing the lightdm logo?09:48
pleia2knome: ok, I'll email charlie (I was thinking I'd do that anyway, but figured I'd ask you first :)09:53
pleia2thanks09:53
knome:)09:53
knomenp09:53
madnickknome: http://79.99.1.99/~madnick/xubuntu-logo.script10:01
knomemadnick, mm-hmm! we've made some slight changes to the branch (mostly file renames), could you create a diff or sth and incorporate those changes to a file too? :)10:10
madnickon launchpad?10:11
knomeyeah10:11
madnicki will look into it10:12
knomeok, thanks10:12
madnickI don't think I can push anything up there tho10:12
madnickTo the orignal branch10:12
knomeyeah, but i can, but it would be easier if i didn't need to do the diff ;)10:13
madnickoh okay10:13
knomebesides, we will need a UIFe >__<10:13
mr_pouitknome: uploaded12:50
knomemadnick, ta14:20
knomemr_pouit, ^14:20
knomemr_pouit, ?16:28
mr_pouitknome: ?16:40
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knomemr_pouit, can you confirm the description is #955396 is accurate now16:41
mr_pouitplymouth + appmenu should be ok16:42
mr_pouitwebsite + uboquity i don't know16:42
mr_pouitlightdm isn't done16:42
knomeubiquity is fine, i can confirm that16:42
knomewebsite needs actions from IS, but that's not under UIFe anyway16:42
knomeand yeah, i know about lightdm16:42
knomebut it's not critical, since we don't have the old logo there either :)16:48
pleia2yay, charlie got back to me \o/17:03
pleia2confirmed: iso and /Long /Short tests are two different, important things17:04
pleia2confirmed: we should ask people to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers per our StrategyDocument17:04
GridCubetalking about tests, i havent done any in like 2 months D:17:06
ochosileo-unglaub: hey!17:06
GridCubecould not read control file from URL http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/precise-alternate-i386.iso.zsync17:07
GridCubeD:17:07
pleia2looks like only the 64-bit alts got made17:11
pleia2and 64-bit desktop17:11
pleia232-bit are dated the 15th17:12
pleia2GridCube: can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers with info for yourself?17:13
GridCubepleia2, what is SRU/Backport?17:17
GridCubei will put it "no" to it because i dont know what it is17:18
pleia2I don't know :(17:21
pleia2thank you17:21
ochosiwho's maintaining the "unofficial google+ xubuntu fan page"?17:25
GridCubeif its unofficial... i don't think no one here knows XD17:26
ochosiwhy not?17:26
pleia2yeah, I don't know17:26
pleia2I just do twitter17:27
ochosiit obviously contains "leaked" information from this channel (e.g. the new wallpaper proposal on knome's server)17:27
ochosior maybe that was also mentioned in a meeting17:27
GridCubeoh!!! 666 persons are part of the fan page17:28
GridCubeD:17:28
ochosiyup17:28
ochosii'll raise that by one to make it less evil17:28
ochosi:)17:28
GridCubeme too17:28
pleia2lol17:31
knomeGridCube, pleia2: SRU/Backports are updates that are made for old releases, like 10.04.217:32
GridCubeoh17:32
GridCubenever did that17:32
GridCubeso no its ok17:32
knomei don't do google+, so how would i know what's on?17:33
GridCubeknome, :D I LOVE THE BOAT17:34
pleia2I wish it was easier to see who runs a page (like facebook has "admins" listed)17:34
pleia2or at least contact them17:34
ochosiyeah, the "about" page is not very informative17:34
knomepleia2, you are on G+ ?17:35
pleia2knome: yeah17:35
pleia2you should be able to see this page even w/o g+ https://plus.google.com/112064450121097287690/posts17:35
knomepleia2, ok, could you nicely ask to be made an admin of that group?17:35
pleia2then they could call themselves Official! :)17:36
pleia2there isn't a "contact me" button17:36
ochosimeh, i still can't figure out why qt apps don't use the gtk theme by default in oneiric. no clue how we should fix that for precise (this also didn't work for me: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/get-better-looking-qt-applications-in.html )17:36
GridCubeyou can leave a message17:36
pleia2I could comment on a post, but that seems annoying17:36
pleia2GridCube: hm, write a post shared only with them?17:36
knomepleia2, mmh. i also don't want to have anything posted under the xubuntu name17:36
knomelike the robot ice hockey player down the page17:37
ochosibrb17:37
knomethat's simply misusing the name for publicity, even if it was good-willed17:37
pleia2it's actually a pretty good feed, so I'd love to collaborate17:37
knomeyeah, it looks good, but if it's official, it has to be kept xubuntu-only17:37
pleia2yeah17:38
knomeor at least somewhat related posts.. that's just general nonsense ;)17:38
GridCubepleia2, i have no idea, O_o17:39
GridCubeyou can only answer a post17:39
pleia2knome: hmm, maybe it brought you to the wrong page, it's all on topic when I look at it17:39
knomehttps://plus.google.com/112064450121097287690/posts17:39
knomeoh right17:39
knomethe robot uses xubuntu 11.1017:39
knome>__<17:40
pleia2yeah17:40
knomeright17:40
knomelooks like your blog is either aggregated or manually linked to, but mine isn't17:40
knomethough i haven't blogged in a while...17:40
pleia2I'm prettier17:40
knomehrhm17:41
pleia2I see a link to your blog though17:41
knomecan't disagree on that17:41
knomeright17:41
knomek17:41
knomeanyway, try to get hold of the people running that17:41
astraljavaYeah, even though I haven't seen you, I've seen knome...17:41
astraljava*grin*17:41
pleia2will do17:41
knomethe about-page could definitely get some love ;)17:42
knomei suppose the next question is: has somebody created xubuntu on facebook, and who's administrating that?17:42
pleia2someone has the username xubuntu17:43
ochosii mean so far nothing bad has come from that google+ page, but i wouldn't mind having that person joining the team or something and doing it officially17:43
pleia2ochosi: yeah17:43
knomeit would make the most sense if pleia2, our marketing lead, was an admin of that page17:43
GridCubeknome, there are at least 8 xubuntu pages, just in spanish17:44
pleia2there is a facebook page, no idea who is admin17:44
pleia2https://www.facebook.com/pages/Xubuntu/10618187274586417:44
ochosiyeah, but it might be easier to integrate the page rather than contacting someone and saying: we want to control your site17:44
knomepleia2, didn't i just hear you saying "fb is easier" ?:)17:44
GridCubehttp://www.facebook.com/groups/2205096275/17:44
pleia2knome: haha, I thought it had an admins thing! maybe I dreamt it in my hope to hate facebook less17:45
knome:)=17:45
pleia2this page confuses me, it doesn't have updates and stuff17:45
knomeshould i ask IS to update the website now with the new logo?17:47
knomethe logo is all over precise now17:47
ochosiyeah, why not, but then we have to blog as well17:48
GridCubewhats the difference with the old logo?17:48
knomethe article is pretty much ready17:48
pleia2yeah17:48
ochosik17:48
pleia2let's do it17:48
knomeGridCube, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_logo/oldexports/logo_comparison.png17:48
GridCubeD:17:48
GridCubeD:17:48
GridCubeD:17:49
knome(except that's an old export, there is a slight bug that's fixed)17:49
GridCubegods17:49
ochosido any of you have a real (as in: not vm) install of precise?17:49
GridCubeyoure jocking right?17:49
knomeGridCube, no.17:49
GridCubeD:17:49
knomeochosi, wife's laptop...17:49
pleia2ochosi: of Ubuntu, but I could install xubuntu-desktop, or reinstall to test the iso for fun17:49
ochosiwhat i'm trying to find out is how to solve the sound-setting mess17:50
ochosispecifically the mute/unmute multimedia button not working17:50
ochosiand whether xfce4-mixer works in any testcase17:50
knomemmh17:50
ochosicause if not we should stop installing it by default and replace it with pavucontrol17:50
ochosiwould be best to achieve that for precise already17:51
pleia2I'll grab today's iso and give it a spin in a little bit17:51
pleia2and do we know what broke/when the 32 bit isos will be back? :)17:52
ochosithanks pleia2 17:52
ochosii'll try to get around to do a real-install myself as well. i think more than one person testing this might make sense17:52
* pleia2 goes to make breakfast17:53
ochosibon appetit17:53
knomeyou, bon appetit17:53
ochosiare there any news on the text-mode of plymouth from madnick?17:53
knomeyeah, he posted the code for that today, though it used the old code as basis, so i asked him to do a merge17:54
ochosicool17:54
ochosithe new plymouth logo looks slick btw: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03182012-065432pm.php17:54
ochosiwell done, knome !17:55
knome\o/17:55
knomeyeah, that's great17:55
GridCubefor the record, i really do not like the new logo.17:55
knomelogged.17:56
knomefor the record, there's an another proposition for a logo for Q: http://imagebin.org/204078 (by GridCube) :))18:22
GridCubeXD18:23
knomelooks really good, though i'm not sure how it would work on small sizes, i suppose most of the details would not work18:23
ochosilol18:23
pleia2should our desktop iso give an option to just install or boot right into live?19:14
knomepleia2, yeah, with maybe-ubiquity19:17
pleia2er, yeah which?19:17
knomemaybe-ubiquity!! :P19:17
knomethat's the name19:17
knomeit's the graphical installer/selecting screen19:18
pleia2I meant which were you saying yeah to :)19:18
pleia2should give an option?19:18
knomeyes, should give an option19:18
knomehttp://s.techairlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Ubuntu-Install-Welcome.jpg19:19
knomelike that19:19
* pleia2 nods19:19
pleia2I remember the VM tests I was doing did that, maybe it's the way I'm booting the iso from my USB stick that is the problem19:19
knomemm19:20
knomedon't know19:20
* pleia2 loads up in VM too19:20
pleia2is there a recommended way to boot the iso from a USB stick?19:20
knomei suppose to use the usb stick creator, but i'm unaware if there's any difference to a "manual" method19:21
pleia2I just put the iso on a stick and used grub2 (grub2 is install ed on the usb stick)19:22
pleia2hm, yeah, a VM install works correctly19:34
GridCubepleia2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/92493119:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924931 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "xubuntu precise pangolin alpha2 problems" [High,Confirmed]19:39
pleia2GridCube: I'm not getting the option19:40
GridCubeoh19:40
GridCubeD:19:40
pleia2it is booting directly into live19:40
GridCubeeven if you press a key on the first seconds? 19:40
pleia2what key?19:40
pleia2it just puts text stuff on my screen until it starts xorg19:41
GridCubeany key19:41
GridCubemmm19:41
pleia2do you use usb sticks for testing?19:41
GridCubeno19:42
GridCubei do vbox tests19:42
pleia2ah19:42
pleia2ochosi: I have a metal install of xubuntu 12.04 now, just let me know what you need tested20:17
pleia2charlie-tca says he uses UNetbootin20:54
knomei'm wondering why he doesn't hang out at #xubuntu-devel 21:03
pleia2I don't think he's been on irc at all lately21:03
pleia2I'm talking via email :)21:03
knomeaham21:03
ochosipleia2: cool. well the thing concerns multimedia buttons for one21:12
ochosipleia2: mute works, but unmute usually doesn't21:12
pleia2ochosi: ah ok, I'll have a look21:12
ochosipleia2: then please add xfce4-mixer to the panel and see whether volume-changes are reflected in the notification-bubble21:13
pleia2ok21:13
ochosiif unmute really doesn't work, please test this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485/comments/321:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 883485 in xfce4-volumed "Pulse Audio don't get unmuted when XF86AudioMute is used" [Undecided,Won't fix]21:16
ochosisry pleia2, g2g to sleep now21:32
ochosimaybe we can talk tomorrow21:32
pleia2doh, my laptop doesn't have a mute key22:02
pleia2it does have a key to turn off the touchpad and click mouse, cool22:04
pleia2it works too22:04
pleia2and is scary when you don't know what it is and hit it accidentally :D22:04
pleia2"oh no, mouse no worky!"22:04
pleia2xfce4-mixer sound change in Master does make the notification bubble happen22:07
pleia2I can test the mute/unmute thing on a liveusb on my netbook22:07

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