[03:46] <leo-unglaub> so, i am on my way home
[03:46] <leo-unglaub> have a nice day
[06:34] <pleia2> knome: so I'm confused, we have iso tracking which is one test thing, and then these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo/Short and /Long
[06:36] <pleia2> these seem to me to be different things, but the docs seem to imply that all results should be added to the iso tracker
[06:37] <pleia2> and do we need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers anymore?
[09:44] <knome> pleia2, i don't know. that doesn't look very current, but if it was, this could be something that could be used as the machine URL.
[09:45] <knome> pleia2, i suppose you should do the tests that are linked from the tracker, but i'd ask charlie and/or stgraber or the folks behind the tracker
[09:48] <knome> mr_pouit, can you ping me when you have uploaded the new logos and the new icon package/any changes needed to change the app menu icon. thanks!
[09:48] <knome> mr_pouit, also, where are we at on changing the lightdm logo?
[09:53] <pleia2> knome: ok, I'll email charlie (I was thinking I'd do that anyway, but figured I'd ask you first :)
[09:53] <pleia2> thanks
[09:53] <knome> :)
[09:53] <knome> np
[10:01] <madnick> knome: http://79.99.1.99/~madnick/xubuntu-logo.script
[10:10] <knome> madnick, mm-hmm! we've made some slight changes to the branch (mostly file renames), could you create a diff or sth and incorporate those changes to a file too? :)
[10:11] <madnick> on launchpad?
[10:11] <knome> yeah
[10:12] <madnick> i will look into it
[10:12] <knome> ok, thanks
[10:12] <madnick> I don't think I can push anything up there tho
[10:12] <madnick> To the orignal branch
[10:13] <knome> yeah, but i can, but it would be easier if i didn't need to do the diff ;)
[10:13] <madnick> oh okay
[10:13] <knome> besides, we will need a UIFe >__<
[12:50] <mr_pouit> knome: uploaded
[14:20] <knome> madnick, ta
[14:20] <knome> mr_pouit, ^
[16:28] <knome> mr_pouit, ?
[16:40] <mr_pouit> knome: ?
[16:41] <knome> mr_pouit, can you confirm the description is #955396 is accurate now
[16:42] <mr_pouit> plymouth + appmenu should be ok
[16:42] <mr_pouit> website + uboquity i don't know
[16:42] <mr_pouit> lightdm isn't done
[16:42] <knome> ubiquity is fine, i can confirm that
[16:42] <knome> website needs actions from IS, but that's not under UIFe anyway
[16:42] <knome> and yeah, i know about lightdm
[16:48] <knome> but it's not critical, since we don't have the old logo there either :)
[17:03] <pleia2> yay, charlie got back to me \o/
[17:04] <pleia2> confirmed: iso and /Long /Short tests are two different, important things
[17:04] <pleia2> confirmed: we should ask people to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers per our StrategyDocument
[17:06] <GridCube> talking about tests, i havent done any in like 2 months D:
[17:06] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: hey!
[17:07] <GridCube> could not read control file from URL http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/precise-alternate-i386.iso.zsync
[17:07] <GridCube> D:
[17:11] <pleia2> looks like only the 64-bit alts got made
[17:11] <pleia2> and 64-bit desktop
[17:12] <pleia2> 32-bit are dated the 15th
[17:13] <pleia2> GridCube: can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers with info for yourself?
[17:17] <GridCube> pleia2, what is SRU/Backport?
[17:18] <GridCube> i will put it "no" to it because i dont know what it is
[17:21] <pleia2> I don't know :(
[17:21] <pleia2> thank you
[17:25] <ochosi> who's maintaining the "unofficial google+ xubuntu fan page"?
[17:26] <GridCube> if its unofficial... i don't think no one here knows XD
[17:26] <ochosi> why not?
[17:26] <pleia2> yeah, I don't know
[17:27] <pleia2> I just do twitter
[17:27] <ochosi> it obviously contains "leaked" information from this channel (e.g. the new wallpaper proposal on knome's server)
[17:27] <ochosi> or maybe that was also mentioned in a meeting
[17:28] <GridCube> oh!!! 666 persons are part of the fan page
[17:28] <GridCube> D:
[17:28] <ochosi> yup
[17:28] <ochosi> i'll raise that by one to make it less evil
[17:28] <ochosi> :)
[17:28] <GridCube> me too
[17:31] <pleia2> lol
[17:32] <knome> GridCube, pleia2: SRU/Backports are updates that are made for old releases, like 10.04.2
[17:32] <GridCube> oh
[17:32] <GridCube> never did that
[17:32] <GridCube> so no its ok
[17:33] <knome> i don't do google+, so how would i know what's on?
[17:34] <GridCube> knome, :D I LOVE THE BOAT
[17:34] <pleia2> I wish it was easier to see who runs a page (like facebook has "admins" listed)
[17:34] <pleia2> or at least contact them
[17:34] <ochosi> yeah, the "about" page is not very informative
[17:35] <knome> pleia2, you are on G+ ?
[17:35] <pleia2> knome: yeah
[17:35] <pleia2> you should be able to see this page even w/o g+ https://plus.google.com/112064450121097287690/posts
[17:35] <knome> pleia2, ok, could you nicely ask to be made an admin of that group?
[17:36] <pleia2> then they could call themselves Official! :)
[17:36] <pleia2> there isn't a "contact me" button
[17:36] <ochosi> meh, i still can't figure out why qt apps don't use the gtk theme by default in oneiric. no clue how we should fix that for precise (this also didn't work for me: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/get-better-looking-qt-applications-in.html )
[17:36] <GridCube> you can leave a message
[17:36] <pleia2> I could comment on a post, but that seems annoying
[17:36] <pleia2> GridCube: hm, write a post shared only with them?
[17:36] <knome> pleia2, mmh. i also don't want to have anything posted under the xubuntu name
[17:37] <knome> like the robot ice hockey player down the page
[17:37] <ochosi> brb
[17:37] <knome> that's simply misusing the name for publicity, even if it was good-willed
[17:37] <pleia2> it's actually a pretty good feed, so I'd love to collaborate
[17:37] <knome> yeah, it looks good, but if it's official, it has to be kept xubuntu-only
[17:38] <pleia2> yeah
[17:38] <knome> or at least somewhat related posts.. that's just general nonsense ;)
[17:39] <GridCube> pleia2, i have no idea, O_o
[17:39] <GridCube> you can only answer a post
[17:39] <pleia2> knome: hmm, maybe it brought you to the wrong page, it's all on topic when I look at it
[17:39] <knome> https://plus.google.com/112064450121097287690/posts
[17:39] <knome> oh right
[17:39] <knome> the robot uses xubuntu 11.10
[17:40] <knome> >__<
[17:40] <pleia2> yeah
[17:40] <knome> right
[17:40] <knome> looks like your blog is either aggregated or manually linked to, but mine isn't
[17:40] <knome> though i haven't blogged in a while...
[17:40] <pleia2> I'm prettier
[17:41] <knome> hrhm
[17:41] <pleia2> I see a link to your blog though
[17:41] <knome> can't disagree on that
[17:41] <knome> right
[17:41] <knome> k
[17:41] <knome> anyway, try to get hold of the people running that
[17:41] <astraljava> Yeah, even though I haven't seen you, I've seen knome...
[17:41] <astraljava> *grin*
[17:41] <pleia2> will do
[17:42] <knome> the about-page could definitely get some love ;)
[17:42] <knome> i suppose the next question is: has somebody created xubuntu on facebook, and who's administrating that?
[17:43] <pleia2> someone has the username xubuntu
[17:43] <ochosi> i mean so far nothing bad has come from that google+ page, but i wouldn't mind having that person joining the team or something and doing it officially
[17:43] <pleia2> ochosi: yeah
[17:43] <knome> it would make the most sense if pleia2, our marketing lead, was an admin of that page
[17:44] <GridCube> knome, there are at least 8 xubuntu pages, just in spanish
[17:44] <pleia2> there is a facebook page, no idea who is admin
[17:44] <pleia2> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Xubuntu/106181872745864
[17:44] <ochosi> yeah, but it might be easier to integrate the page rather than contacting someone and saying: we want to control your site
[17:44] <knome> pleia2, didn't i just hear you saying "fb is easier" ?:)
[17:44] <GridCube> http://www.facebook.com/groups/2205096275/
[17:45] <pleia2> knome: haha, I thought it had an admins thing! maybe I dreamt it in my hope to hate facebook less
[17:45] <knome> :)=
[17:45] <pleia2> this page confuses me, it doesn't have updates and stuff
[17:47] <knome> should i ask IS to update the website now with the new logo?
[17:47] <knome> the logo is all over precise now
[17:48] <ochosi> yeah, why not, but then we have to blog as well
[17:48] <GridCube> whats the difference with the old logo?
[17:48] <knome> the article is pretty much ready
[17:48] <pleia2> yeah
[17:48] <ochosi> k
[17:48] <pleia2> let's do it
[17:48] <knome> GridCube, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_logo/oldexports/logo_comparison.png
[17:48] <GridCube> D:
[17:48] <GridCube> D:
[17:49] <GridCube> D:
[17:49] <knome> (except that's an old export, there is a slight bug that's fixed)
[17:49] <GridCube> gods
[17:49] <ochosi> do any of you have a real (as in: not vm) install of precise?
[17:49] <GridCube> youre jocking right?
[17:49] <knome> GridCube, no.
[17:49] <GridCube> D:
[17:49] <knome> ochosi, wife's laptop...
[17:49] <pleia2> ochosi: of Ubuntu, but I could install xubuntu-desktop, or reinstall to test the iso for fun
[17:50] <ochosi> what i'm trying to find out is how to solve the sound-setting mess
[17:50] <ochosi> specifically the mute/unmute multimedia button not working
[17:50] <ochosi> and whether xfce4-mixer works in any testcase
[17:50] <knome> mmh
[17:50] <ochosi> cause if not we should stop installing it by default and replace it with pavucontrol
[17:51] <ochosi> would be best to achieve that for precise already
[17:51] <pleia2> I'll grab today's iso and give it a spin in a little bit
[17:52] <pleia2> and do we know what broke/when the 32 bit isos will be back? :)
[17:52] <ochosi> thanks pleia2 
[17:52] <ochosi> i'll try to get around to do a real-install myself as well. i think more than one person testing this might make sense
[17:53]  * pleia2 goes to make breakfast
[17:53] <ochosi> bon appetit
[17:53] <knome> you, bon appetit
[17:53] <ochosi> are there any news on the text-mode of plymouth from madnick?
[17:54] <knome> yeah, he posted the code for that today, though it used the old code as basis, so i asked him to do a merge
[17:54] <ochosi> cool
[17:54] <ochosi> the new plymouth logo looks slick btw: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03182012-065432pm.php
[17:55] <ochosi> well done, knome !
[17:55] <knome> \o/
[17:55] <knome> yeah, that's great
[17:55] <GridCube> for the record, i really do not like the new logo.
[17:56] <knome> logged.
[18:22] <knome> for the record, there's an another proposition for a logo for Q: http://imagebin.org/204078 (by GridCube) :))
[18:23] <GridCube> XD
[18:23] <knome> looks really good, though i'm not sure how it would work on small sizes, i suppose most of the details would not work
[18:23] <ochosi> lol
[19:14] <pleia2> should our desktop iso give an option to just install or boot right into live?
[19:17] <knome> pleia2, yeah, with maybe-ubiquity
[19:17] <pleia2> er, yeah which?
[19:17] <knome> maybe-ubiquity!! :P
[19:17] <knome> that's the name
[19:18] <knome> it's the graphical installer/selecting screen
[19:18] <pleia2> I meant which were you saying yeah to :)
[19:18] <pleia2> should give an option?
[19:18] <knome> yes, should give an option
[19:19] <knome> http://s.techairlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Ubuntu-Install-Welcome.jpg
[19:19] <knome> like that
[19:19]  * pleia2 nods
[19:19] <pleia2> I remember the VM tests I was doing did that, maybe it's the way I'm booting the iso from my USB stick that is the problem
[19:20] <knome> mm
[19:20] <knome> don't know
[19:20]  * pleia2 loads up in VM too
[19:20] <pleia2> is there a recommended way to boot the iso from a USB stick?
[19:21] <knome> i suppose to use the usb stick creator, but i'm unaware if there's any difference to a "manual" method
[19:22] <pleia2> I just put the iso on a stick and used grub2 (grub2 is install ed on the usb stick)
[19:34] <pleia2> hm, yeah, a VM install works correctly
[19:39] <GridCube> pleia2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/924931
[19:40] <pleia2> GridCube: I'm not getting the option
[19:40] <GridCube> oh
[19:40] <GridCube> D:
[19:40] <pleia2> it is booting directly into live
[19:40] <GridCube> even if you press a key on the first seconds? 
[19:40] <pleia2> what key?
[19:41] <pleia2> it just puts text stuff on my screen until it starts xorg
[19:41] <GridCube> any key
[19:41] <GridCube> mmm
[19:41] <pleia2> do you use usb sticks for testing?
[19:42] <GridCube> no
[19:42] <GridCube> i do vbox tests
[19:42] <pleia2> ah
[20:17] <pleia2> ochosi: I have a metal install of xubuntu 12.04 now, just let me know what you need tested
[20:54] <pleia2> charlie-tca says he uses UNetbootin
[21:03] <knome> i'm wondering why he doesn't hang out at #xubuntu-devel 
[21:03] <pleia2> I don't think he's been on irc at all lately
[21:03] <pleia2> I'm talking via email :)
[21:03] <knome> aham
[21:12] <ochosi> pleia2: cool. well the thing concerns multimedia buttons for one
[21:12] <ochosi> pleia2: mute works, but unmute usually doesn't
[21:12] <pleia2> ochosi: ah ok, I'll have a look
[21:13] <ochosi> pleia2: then please add xfce4-mixer to the panel and see whether volume-changes are reflected in the notification-bubble
[21:13] <pleia2> ok
[21:16] <ochosi> if unmute really doesn't work, please test this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485/comments/3
[21:32] <ochosi> sry pleia2, g2g to sleep now
[21:32] <ochosi> maybe we can talk tomorrow
[22:02] <pleia2> doh, my laptop doesn't have a mute key
[22:04] <pleia2> it does have a key to turn off the touchpad and click mouse, cool
[22:04] <pleia2> it works too
[22:04] <pleia2> and is scary when you don't know what it is and hit it accidentally :D
[22:04] <pleia2> "oh no, mouse no worky!"
[22:07] <pleia2> xfce4-mixer sound change in Master does make the notification bubble happen
[22:07] <pleia2> I can test the mute/unmute thing on a liveusb on my netbook