[00:00]  * jalcine_ is away: Gone away for now
[03:33] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[04:58] <ronnoc_> hi all. you maybe aware of this, or not; and it may be Kubuntu specific, or not (not sure) - But posting here for the sake of diligence http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2012-03/msg00110.html 
[05:59] <ybit> http://youtu.be/WRMy20z6luo
[05:59] <ybit> what's with this?
[05:59] <ybit> ugly animations in the latest version of kubuntu
[06:33] <ybit> http://youtu.be/WRMy20z6luo :: what's with these ugly animations?
[07:17] <fabo> Riddell: your latest changes on Qt aren't commited in the repo. Do you mind if I push them?
[07:23] <micahg> fabo: was there a reason we didn't push libzip 0.10 for precise?
[07:25] <fabo> micahg: it's binary incompatible. it took some time to transition in Debian. The transition finished recently. We can sync request now.
[07:26] <micahg> fabo: it'll need an FFe + commitment for the transition
[07:26] <micahg> oh, not too big
[07:26] <micahg> only 11 packages, it'll fix a depwait as well
[07:27] <micahg> fabo: were you planning on filing the paperwork?
[07:27] <fabo> the transition was pretty safe
[07:27] <fabo> micahg: I can do
[07:27] <micahg> fabo: thanks
[07:36] <fabo> Riddell: pushed. I assumed you don't mind :)
[08:19] <Riddell> fabo: thanks
[08:20] <fabo> Riddell: I commited the changes to fix bug 911733
[08:20] <Riddell> yep, thanks
[09:31] <DoctorPepper> shadeslayer:  are u here ? 
[09:43] <schnelle> fabo: thanks for fixing bug 911733 :)
[09:44] <fabo> schnelle: yw :)
[09:48] <schnelle> fabo: this is precise only, right? this won't be backported to qt 4.8 from oneiric backports?
[09:53] <fabo> schnelle: looking in the backport atm. it will be another bug for backporting.
[09:54] <fabo> schnelle: in oneiric, it's 4.7.4
[09:56] <DoctorPepper> can anyone tell how i can upgrade  to 12.04 beta ,  since kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade   says  No new release found
[09:56] <schnelle> fabo: yes it's 4.7.4 in official repository. but if one (like me) is using backports to get kde 4.8, he also gets qt 4.8 from backports
[09:58] <schnelle> fabo: hmm i think i missunderstood you. you said basicly the same thing as i did. sorry :)
[10:17] <schnelle> DoctorPepper: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[10:19] <DoctorPepper> schnelle: No new release found
[10:21] <schnelle> DoctorPepper: hmm it works for me in oneiric
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:21] <Peace-> firefox will not integrated anymore on kubuntu ? 
[12:21] <Peace-> or this is a fake new ?
[12:22] <Riddell> the ubuntu packager is removing the important patch
[12:22] <Riddell> debfx: I think I have someone who would like to have a PPA with a patched firefox in it, would you be willing to help?
[12:22] <Riddell> help set it up
[12:23] <Peace-> how stupid is the guy that has done this ?
[12:23] <Peace-> how much*
[12:24] <Peace-> who is ?
[12:24] <Riddell> not stupid.  canonical I expect
[12:25] <Peace-> i think that who has done this is stupid
[12:27] <tsdgeos> what does the dropped patch do?
[12:28] <Peace-> tsdgeos: i guess open the open dialog kde
[12:28] <debfx> Riddell: I don't think it's feasible to maintain a patched firefox in a ppa
[12:28] <Riddell> tsdgeos: talk to mozilla kde helper which does things like open kde dialogues
[12:28] <Riddell> debfx: because firefox changes so much?
[12:29] <Peace-> so we get rekonq that crash all the time and firefox that sucks on style 
[12:30] <debfx> and chromium which has a working kde integration
[12:30] <Peace-> well it's the only pseudo decent browser 
[12:31] <debfx> Riddell: yes
[12:37] <Sifrazooy> hey does any one knows where i can find dolphin documentations
[12:38] <Riddell> Sifrazooy: I don't understand your question
[12:39] <Sifrazooy> Riddell:  i want to add and use some functionalities in dolphin 
[12:40] <Peace-> Sifrazooy: like ?
[12:40] <Sifrazooy> Riddell: for more details i want to be able to retreive the right click list on dolphin file manager and reuse them again
[12:40] <Riddell> Sifrazooy: if you want to know how to make plugins for debian the right people to ask are kde developers who have an irc channel of #kde-devel
[12:40] <Riddell> s/debian/dolphin/
[12:40] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "Sifrazooy: if you want to know how to make plugins for dolphin the right people to ask are kde developers who have an irc channel of #kde-devel"
[12:41] <Sifrazooy> Riddell: thnx for help :D
[12:41] <BluesKaj> debfx,  not a really good kde integration with chromium and kde the tabfonts etc are trill too small to read on a large monitor and they can't be resized
[12:41] <BluesKaj> still too small
[12:42] <debfx> BluesKaj: I didn't say it's perfect but at least it exists
[12:45] <debfx> BluesKaj: have you filed a bug about that?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> debfx,  yeah, takes up less real estate than FF 
[12:45] <BluesKaj> 'yes about 18mos ago 
[12:47] <BluesKaj> don't think it was ever assigned ..not many ppl use a 42" monitor, so the font appears fine on most desktops and laptops
[13:28] <debfx> fabo: do you have some time to review a few changes for the qt package?
[13:36] <fabo> debfx: soon to be busy for the next 2h30. I could put in queue after that.
[13:38] <debfx> fabo: that would be great :), the patches are in http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qt4/
[13:38] <fabo> np
[13:39] <debfx> they are based on the debian experimental branch
[13:39] <debfx> but I also want to push 0002 and 3 to precise
[14:20] <tsdgeos> Riddell: so that firefox-kde helper was removed because: a) did not compile b) has no maintainer c) it is policy not to ship distro patches d) anything else
[14:29] <debfx> tsdgeos: it was removed because it's difficult and time consuming to maintain such a large patch with firefox's rapid release schedule
[14:32] <tsdgeos> debfx: because api changes?
[14:34] <ScottK> And no one to do the work.
[14:42] <andreaxxx> hello! any workaround for bug #941989?
[14:44] <Riddell> andreaxxx: user support in #kubuntu
[14:46] <andreaxxx> Riddell: for 12.04 too?
[14:50] <Riddell> andreaxxx: yes or try #kubuntu+1 or #ubuntu+1
[14:50] <andreaxxx> ty ;)
[15:37] <Riddell> muon uses zeitgeist now?
[15:43] <ScottK> fabo: I approved your libzip FFe, but please get it done quickly.
[15:47] <fabo> ScottK: thanks
[15:47] <ScottK> fabo: If there's anything that needs a sync that you don't have upload rights for, let me know.
[15:48] <fabo> micahg: paperwork done, now we need to push the stuff ^^^
[15:49] <micahg> fabo: ok, are we sure the reverse dependencies will build with a no change rebuild?
[15:49] <fabo> ScottK: libzip should be merged, trigger rebuild on  the 7 known good packages
[15:49] <ScottK> micahg: See the bug.  All but two.
[15:49] <fabo> yes
[15:50] <fabo> then push the 2 changes for the remaining packages
[15:50] <ScottK> fabo: merge or sync?  We don't have a current diff for libzip
[15:50] <micahg> fabo should have sync rights for libzip as a kubuntu-dev
[15:50] <fabo> ScottK: sync
[15:51] <fabo> ah cool :)
[15:51] <micahg> fabo: just close the bug please when syncing (-b XXXXXX)
[15:51] <ScottK> Oh.  Give it a try then.
[15:51] <fabo> ok
[15:51] <micahg> fabo: have you tried syncpackage yet?
[15:51] <ScottK> micahg: Shouldn't it stay open until the transition is done?
[15:51] <fabo> micahg: no, it will be my 1st try
[15:51] <micahg> ScottK: well, if we want to be technical about it, we should just add bug tasks for the packages and have each one closed on upload/sync :)
[15:52] <ScottK> Yes.  Easier just to close it by hand when done.
[15:52] <micahg> with tasks though, LP will record as you go, so you're never wondering where you are :)
[15:53] <micahg> fabo: I can go through the rest in a few hours, I have to finish something else up
[15:53] <micahg> or have ScottK do them
[15:54]  * ScottK can do the syncs after libzip is built and published.
[15:54] <fabo> I'll syncpackage for libzip and let you do the remaining packages?
[15:58]  * fabo back in 5min, call in progress...
[15:59] <ScottK> Are they syncs or no change rebuilds?
[16:00] <ScottK> You should be able to do ebook-tools too.
[16:33] <fabo> ScottK: syncpackage done. the 7 other packages are no change rebuilds.
[16:33] <ScottK> OK.
[16:34] <ScottK> fabo: Is this your first Ubuntu "upload"?
[16:34] <fabo> ScottK: no, I've done Qt (this morning)
[16:34] <ScottK> Ah.  Cool.  Congratulations on that one then.
[16:34] <fabo> thanks :)
[16:35] <fabo> ScottK: is there's a way to find which packages I'm allowed to upload?
[16:36] <Riddell> I think there is a magic command that I can never remember
[16:36] <Riddell> cjwatson will know
[16:36] <ScottK> Yes.  There is.
[16:36] <ScottK> micahg should know too.
[16:36] <fabo> k
[16:36] <debfx> edit_acl.py -P kubuntu -S precise query
[16:37] <debfx> from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk
[16:37] <fabo> thanks
[16:38] <micahg> fabo: if you're wondering about a specific packages, there's also ubuntu-upload-permission in ubuntu-dev-tools
[16:38] <fabo> ok
[16:45] <fabo> micahg: bug 959103
[16:46] <micahg> fabo: yes?
[16:46] <fabo> just replied to your comment
[16:48] <micahg> fabo: that should go on the other bug, you can mark the backport request as a duplicate and target the other bug to oneiric
[16:48] <fabo> k
[16:49] <micahg> fabo: FYI, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[16:50] <micahg> fabo: let me know if you need sponsorship for it, as I'm piloting in ~10 hours
[16:52] <fabo> micahg: I've nominated the bug for oneiric, subscribed ubuntu-sru and going to prepare the release-proposed package
[16:53] <micahg> fabo: sounds good, task approved