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ubottuFyodorovna called the ops in #ubuntu (Yigabu)06:04
Tm_Tmorning06:17
bazhang!canibeanop06:32
ubottuIf you are interested in joining the Ops team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements.  You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.06:32
bazhanghydrox24, ^06:32
hydrox24Hi, I would like to apply for ops on ubuntu? what's the best way to do this?06:32
hydrox24bazhang: ah, thanks.06:32
bazhangnp06:32
Jordan_Uhydrox24: Also, in the future please don't discuss trolls when they've been dealt with. Feeding the trolls just makes them more likely to want to come back.06:33
hydrox24Jordan_U: fair enough, sorry about that one then.06:34
Jordan_Uhydrox24: Np :)06:34
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ikoniaubottu: is not in #ubuntu ?14:19
ubottuikonia: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:19
ikoniaah, it is there14:19
Piciikonia: only if you spell things properly.14:19
ikoniaeven then it should say "I don't know anything about that"14:20
PiciNot in #ubuntu it won't.14:20
ikoniawhich it did....it sent me a pm14:20
ikoniaoops14:20
bazhang<aRaaa> Would switching to Linux from Ubuntu make a difference?14:58
Picilagging here :/15:22
bazhangwas he ban evading?17:26
ikoniayes, and he's just a long term troll17:27
bazhangthe troll part no doubt17:27
ikoniaI'd have had more belief that this was an "honest" or genuine question if he wasn't busy trolling other channels at the same time17:27
ikoniaI've got him as quite a few +b and +q17:27
ikoniaI'm going to tidy them up now17:27
orionsonofneptuni want to know exactly what i did that is trolling17:28
orionsonofneptunive said nothing of the sort ill assure you17:28
ikoniaone moment17:28
orionsonofneptunikonia is confused obviously17:29
ikoniaI'm not17:29
orionsonofneptuni know i havent trolled son17:29
orionsonofneptunits been all technical17:29
orionsonofneptunwhy do ikeep gettig banned for others actions?????? where to find irc cop im sick of this crap ive got enough trouble getting anseres as it is17:30
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: please hold on17:30
bazhangorionsonofneptun, thats more than enough17:31
orionsonofneptunthis is uppsetting sorry17:31
bazhangorionsonofneptun, then be patient.17:32
orionsonofneptunok then17:32
bazhangranting and such as you have done will *not* get this resolved17:32
orionsonofneptunjust now???17:32
orionsonofneptunjust now is the only ranting ive done since the last incident where i thougt we got this straitened out17:33
orionsonofneptunlets be clear on what were talking about please17:34
bazhangwhich time17:34
orionsonofneptunin ops channel right now17:34
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: ok, I'm free node17:34
ikonianow17:34
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: I've previously muted you two times in #ubuntu, and I believe I've actually banned you once, correct yes / no ?17:34
orionsonofneptunno i dont think i recall you ever doing anything to me17:35
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: really17:35
orionsonofneptunthier was a incident a couple of days ago17:35
ikoniawhere I muted you17:35
ikonia(stopped you from being able to talk in #ubuntu)17:36
orionsonofneptunbut we came to ops and resolved17:36
ikoniaI don't believe it was17:36
orionsonofneptunmy nick must be cloned17:36
ikoniathat's why you where muted a second time17:36
ikoniano, it's not cloned17:36
orionsonofneptunwhat did i say then???17:36
ikoniaI'm showing you as "signed" in17:36
ikoniawhich means it's you17:36
ikoniaI'm not getting the logs up - as the bottom line is I don't trust anything you are saying in #ubuntu is genuine17:36
ikoniayou seem to just cause a problem, then try to get around the ban17:37
ikoniaI'm watching you troll other channels at the same time and that leads me to believe you are again trying to cause a problem in #ubuntu17:37
orionsonofneptunhow do i cause a problem please??? by needing a technical question ansered17:37
ikoniasorry if that's not a "nice" way to judge it, but based on your previous comments in the channel, and how you are behaving I don't believe what you are saying17:37
ikoniayour history has now got you a reputation that you are not doing anything to correct,17:38
ikoniaI'd rather you didn't use #ubuntu for a while until you've thought about how you behave and present yourself to channels17:38
orionsonofneptunthats not fair to judge what you dont understand17:38
ikoniapossibly not, but that is how it is17:38
orionsonofneptuni havent trolled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:39
orionsonofneptuntell me exact words please17:39
ikoniaI'm sorry but I don't believe you, and I don't believe your intention17:39
ikoniathe fact is, there are two mutes active for you in #ubuntu that you are trying to evade,17:39
ikoniathey are not resolved, so I've removed you until they can be resolved17:39
orionsonofneptuni will sue the ones keeping from real world knowledge i assure you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:40
ikoniaat this time I do not believe you are trying to use #ubuntu properly17:40
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: you're welcome to sue me17:40
orionsonofneptunyou are not ikonia17:40
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: however at this time there are two mutes for you active in #ubuntu, and until they are resolved by me/others having confidence in your behaviour you won't gain access to #ubuntu17:40
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: is that a little more clear to you ?17:40
orionsonofneptuni am so mad right now i cant think you wont even show me the proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:41
ikoniathe logs of your behaviour and you being muted/banned in the paste are publicly available17:41
ikonia!logs | orionsonofneptun17:42
ubottuorionsonofneptun: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/17:42
ikoniaI suggest you have a read of them if you want to asses your behaviour17:42
orionsonofneptuni was learning u buntu for once and you cut me off for that reason i assure you17:42
ikonia"for once" and there we have it17:42
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: sorry, but that's the position, you've wasted the channels time too often that I don't believe what you are saying17:42
ikoniaso until we have confidence in your behaviour you can keep out of #ubuntu.17:43
orionsonofneptunbeacause i have brain issues your are confused agian17:43
ikoniaI'm not confused17:43
orionsonofneptunyes you are son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!117:43
ikoniaso I'll now ask you to leave the channel, and come back in 7 days time17:43
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: if you can present yourself positivly and explain that you've like to use #ubuntu for support use, I'll be happy to remove the ban17:43
orionsonofneptunive tryed a thousand times17:44
ikonia(or one of the other operators can - it doesn't have to be me)17:44
orionsonofneptunthier is no reason for this17:44
bazhangorionsonofneptun, please. thats enough for today17:44
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: one moment you say has never been a problem, now you say you've tried a thousand times17:44
ikoniathis is what I mean about I cannot believe anything you say or your purpose17:44
ikoniaI'd suggest having a think about it and come back in 7 days17:45
ikoniaif you are genuine about wanting to use the channel, I'm sure we can allow you back in17:45
orionsonofneptuni need to learn dangit you are screwing me out of vital knowledge dangit this unjustice will not go unseen i will get justice for this17:45
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: that's fine, we'll speak to you in 7 days and hopefully we can let you back into #ubuntu17:45
orionsonofneptunim getting cheated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1117:46
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: clam down, this is part of the reason you've had problems in the past how you talk to people17:46
ikoniacalm even17:46
orionsonofneptunits a  confusion  of my nick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!117:46
orionsonofneptuni cant calm down its like this every day17:46
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: it's not, please don't lie17:46
ikoniacome back in 7 days and we'll review your ban then17:46
orionsonofneptuni seek knowledge and some jerk calls me a troll17:46
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: final request, take some time out17:47
orionsonofneptunthis is unfair and you know it thier is no excus17:47
orionsonofneptuns17:47
ikonia!guidelines | orionsonofneptun17:47
ubottuorionsonofneptun: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines17:47
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: have a read through that link that ubottu sent you17:47
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: it may give you a better idea of how you are expected to behave in the channels17:47
bazhangorionsonofneptun, please thats enough now17:47
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: clear ?17:47
orionsonofneptuni did and i abide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!117:47
orionsonofneptunclear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1117:48
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is not needed and part of the reason you are causing a problem17:48
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: there are two mutes on you already in the channel that you tried to get around rather than resolve, so it's hard to believe your actions17:48
orionsonofneptunyou dont want me learning vital ecc correctable error knowledge to save my own life17:48
ikoniacome back in 7 days and we'll try to clear it all down17:48
orionsonofneptunyou are a killer17:48
ikoniaok - save your own life, this is enough now17:49
bazhang<Mary2000> #bitcoin-bot(s) cant remember would ove mary2000 tho18:50
bazhangbitcoin bots?18:50
oCeanwas pjwaffle's bot, talk in pm, he promised not to bring it back18:55
bazhangAP065ED87P0, hi19:47
AP065ED87P0HI19:47
bazhanghow can we help you19:48
AP065ED87P0hmm19:48
bazhangorionsonofneptun, hi19:49
orionsonofneptunhey19:49
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: please come back in 7 days as you know19:49
bazhangorionsonofneptun, 7 days, not today19:49
orionsonofneptunim working real hard to make a positive nick formyself19:49
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: please don't start up again - return in 7 days19:49
ikoniaorionsonofneptun: you've just been a problem in #freenode - I suggest trying harder19:49
ikoniacome back in 7 days19:49
ikonianot before19:49
orionsonofneptunjust please let me explain19:49
ikoniano19:50
ikoniacome back in 7 days not before19:50
bazhangorionsonofneptun, it can be more than 7 days.19:50
bazhangorionsonofneptun, so please lets make it only 7 days.19:50
orionsonofneptuni need it now very desperatly please use some discression here all i said was what is ecc correctional errors19:51
orionsonofneptunthats ne reason to ban me19:51
bazhangorionsonofneptun, come back in 7 days.19:52
bazhangorionsonofneptun, or is that too soon.19:53
bazhangperhaps 14 would be better19:53
orionsonofneptunhavent i been delayed in life enough???????? i mean this in the calmest most polite way19:53
bazhangso 14?19:54
ikoniadon't care now19:54
ikonianot playing stupid games19:54
ikoniahe's just been a total fool wasting peoples time in #freenode, why let him waste peoples in #ubuntu19:54
ikoniamauke: hi20:02
maukeban *!*@c-24-30-56-7.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [by ikonia!~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia, -2498 secs ago]20:02
maukethis one20:02
ikoniaprobably chanserv just being a bit screwy from a netsplit or something20:03
maukehuh. ok20:03
bazhangand he ban evaded right in the middle of asking for staff-ship20:18
Piciheh20:18
ikoniasilly20:18
bazhanga+ for chutzpah20:18
ikonia?20:19
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bazhangM4dH4TT3r, hello21:22
M4dH4TT3rhello bazhang21:22
M4dH4TT3rcan the ban/bans in #ubuntu be lifted21:23
bazhangnot at this time, no21:24
M4dH4TT3rlet me guess another week?21:24
bazhangdoubtful21:24
M4dH4TT3rlol21:24
bazhangtry askubuntu.com in the meantime21:24
M4dH4TT3rso why cant it be removed?21:25
ikoniaM4dH4TT3r: come on - lets be honest21:25
M4dH4TT3rok lets21:25
ikoniayou don't want support, you just want to cause a problem and troll21:25
M4dH4TT3rnot true21:25
ikoniaso why don't you just do it elsewhere21:25
M4dH4TT3ri do21:25
ikoniathen why do you persistantly cause a problem with bad language/attitude/trolling ?21:26
ikoniaif you genuinly want support, why do you try to be a problem21:26
M4dH4TT3rdisagreeing with someone is not a bad attitude21:26
M4dH4TT3ror trolling21:26
ikoniaM4dH4TT3r: welcome to disagree, I have no issue with that21:27
ikoniabut then breaking the rules is not disagreeing21:27
ikoniathat's just trying to be a problem21:27
M4dH4TT3rso lets be honest ikonia you have banned me for a typo before21:27
ikoniait's just tedious, so why don't you use other channels21:27
ikoniathen using excuses like "I was drunk"21:27
ikonianever banned you or anyone for a typo21:27
ikoniayou're banned from a ton of channels, it's not just ubuntu21:28
bazhangM4dH4TT3r, lets stop here please21:28
ikoniayou are a problem in many channels, so look - use other channels21:28
M4dH4TT3rlet me guess that wasnt you in other rooms i was in yelling troll and getting me banned either?21:28
M4dH4TT3rbefore i even spoke21:28
ikoniayou're not getting back into #ubuntu channels anytime soon, so find somewhere else21:28
ikoniano "wait a week" or anything like that - just find somewhere else21:28
M4dH4TT3rwas that a "yes i did that"?21:28
ikoniano, not at all21:29
M4dH4TT3rliez21:29
ikoniabut I'm just interested in being realistic with you here - you're not getting back in for a long time, so I suggest look for somewhere else21:29
M4dH4TT3rits been a long time think about it21:29
ikoniayou've had the ban removed many times and then put back on21:30
ikoniaso you can't get in line - so find somewhere else21:30
ikoniathats the bottom line21:30
ikoniabest of luck with whatever different channels you use, or support resources you want to use forum/askubuntu etc etc21:30
M4dH4TT3rin line ive been in line a long time and still havent gotten past the bouncer21:30
ikoniaM4dH4TT3r: nothing more to discuss21:31
ikoniaM4dH4TT3r: please leave now, and start looking for support alternatives21:31
M4dH4TT3rand thats always how you play it ikonia you start spouting communist bs and then try to end the conversation21:31
oCean<pfifo> because I dont like the lsb standard    I have no idea how to answer that22:01
ikoniait's just nonsense22:01
Fuchsikonia: I assume that M4dH4TT3r is aware of the possible actions if unhappy with operators here?22:02
ikoniavery much22:02
ikoniahe's a long term idiot banned from tons of channels22:03
ikoniahe's just trying to kick up a fuss, he knows everything there is to know about what to do/how to resolve etc22:03
Fuchsoh, I already had the pleasure with him in the past,22:03
FuchsI just wondered why he rambles on #freenode instead22:03
ikoniabecause he's trying to kick up a fuss22:03
Fuchsoh well22:05
ikoniasorry about him22:05
ikoniahi pfifo22:06
pfifowhat did i do wrong?22:06
Fuchsikonia: no worries, not your fault (I hope!) ;)22:06
ikoniapfifo: did you see the bit where I asked you to stop making things up ?22:06
ikoniaFuchs: I assure you it's not22:06
pfifoyeah, so i quit messing around22:07
ikoniapfifo: then you made a comment about canonical locking you in with handcuffs22:07
ikoniayou did this straight after I told you to stop it22:07
ikoniawhich is again just nonsense rambling22:07
ikoniaso I removed you22:07
ikoniawhat did you think was going to happen - I ask you to stop making things up (it missleads other users) and straight away, you make up more stuff and post it to the channel22:08
pfifook, i will really stop22:08
ikoniawell, you have stopped22:08
ikoniaI've banned you from the channel now22:08
ikoniaI shouldn't have had to22:08
ikoniado you think it's funny to just make up stuff in front of 1400 people ?22:08
ikoniano, it's not, it's not helpful and missleading22:09
ikoniathen when I ask you to stop you do it again,22:09
ikoniaI shouldn't need to ban you to get you to use your head to realise that making stuff up is just stupid and unhelpful and then to do it straight after an op asks you not to.....you can take some time out from #ubuntu22:09
pfifofine, how long?22:10
ikoniacome back in a week22:10
pfifoyou really think it deserve a whole week?22:10
ikoniayeah, after you did it 30 seconds after I told you not to22:10
ikoniathat's just trying to be smart and push your luck22:11
ikoniaso take a week to think about if you want to try to tell lies in the channel again22:11
ikoniaI don't find it funny when 1400+ other users are watching you tell them nosense22:11
pfifowell I didnt realize you were ordering me to stop22:11
ikoniaI shoudln't have to22:12
ikoniacommon sense kicks in22:12
ikoniapfifo: how would you feel if when you come back in week and I said - sorry it's actually 1 month22:12
ikoniaI just lied and misslead you to be funny22:12
ikoniaI shouldn't have to tell you that "telling people lies about ubuntu is a bad thing to do in an ubuntu channel"22:13
ikoniaand then when I DO tell you to stop, you do it again ???? come on think it through, is that a good thing to do22:13
pfifoyou could have said 'pfifo if you dont shut up I will ban you'22:14
ikoniaanyway, see you in a week, have a think about if you want to start speading nonsense information in #ubuntu again22:14
ikoniapfifo: I shouldn't have to22:14
pfifoand yes you do have to22:14
ikoniayou should have enough common sense to realise that doing it is wrong, and doing it after you've been told not to is just rude22:15
ikoniapfifo: well, no you know22:15
ikonianow22:15
ikoniasee you in a week22:15
pfifomybe I dont have enough common sense then22:15
ikoniaclearly not22:15
ikoniathink it through for a week22:15
ikoniabye22:15
Fuchsright, have a nice day / evening  *waves*22:17

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