[06:17] <Tm_T> morning
[06:32] <bazhang> !canibeanop
[06:32] <bazhang> hydrox24, ^
[06:32] <hydrox24> Hi, I would like to apply for ops on ubuntu? what's the best way to do this?
[06:32] <hydrox24> bazhang: ah, thanks.
[06:32] <bazhang> np
[06:33] <Jordan_U> hydrox24: Also, in the future please don't discuss trolls when they've been dealt with. Feeding the trolls just makes them more likely to want to come back.
[06:34] <hydrox24> Jordan_U: fair enough, sorry about that one then.
[06:34] <Jordan_U> hydrox24: Np :)
[14:19] <ikonia> ubottu: is not in #ubuntu ?
[14:19] <ikonia> ah, it is there
[14:19] <Pici> ikonia: only if you spell things properly.
[14:20] <ikonia> even then it should say "I don't know anything about that"
[14:20] <Pici> Not in #ubuntu it won't.
[14:20] <ikonia> which it did....it sent me a pm
[14:20] <ikonia> oops
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[15:22] <Pici> lagging here :/
[17:26] <bazhang> was he ban evading?
[17:27] <ikonia> yes, and he's just a long term troll
[17:27] <bazhang> the troll part no doubt
[17:27] <ikonia> I'd have had more belief that this was an "honest" or genuine question if he wasn't busy trolling other channels at the same time
[17:27] <ikonia> I've got him as quite a few +b and +q
[17:27] <ikonia> I'm going to tidy them up now
[17:28] <orionsonofneptun> i want to know exactly what i did that is trolling
[17:28] <orionsonofneptun> ive said nothing of the sort ill assure you
[17:28] <ikonia> one moment
[17:29] <orionsonofneptun> ikonia is confused obviously
[17:29] <ikonia> I'm not
[17:29] <orionsonofneptun> i know i havent trolled son
[17:29] <orionsonofneptun> its been all technical
[17:30] <orionsonofneptun> why do ikeep gettig banned for others actions?????? where to find irc cop im sick of this crap ive got enough trouble getting anseres as it is
[17:30] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: please hold on
[17:31] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, thats more than enough
[17:31] <orionsonofneptun> this is uppsetting sorry
[17:32] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, then be patient.
[17:32] <orionsonofneptun> ok then
[17:32] <bazhang> ranting and such as you have done will *not* get this resolved
[17:32] <orionsonofneptun> just now???
[17:33] <orionsonofneptun> just now is the only ranting ive done since the last incident where i thougt we got this straitened out
[17:34] <orionsonofneptun> lets be clear on what were talking about please
[17:34] <bazhang> which time
[17:34] <orionsonofneptun> in ops channel right now
[17:34] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: ok, I'm free node
[17:34] <ikonia> now
[17:34] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: I've previously muted you two times in #ubuntu, and I believe I've actually banned you once, correct yes / no ?
[17:35] <orionsonofneptun> no i dont think i recall you ever doing anything to me
[17:35] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: really
[17:35] <orionsonofneptun> thier was a incident a couple of days ago
[17:35] <ikonia> where I muted you
[17:36] <ikonia> (stopped you from being able to talk in #ubuntu)
[17:36] <orionsonofneptun> but we came to ops and resolved
[17:36] <ikonia> I don't believe it was
[17:36] <orionsonofneptun> my nick must be cloned
[17:36] <ikonia> that's why you where muted a second time
[17:36] <ikonia> no, it's not cloned
[17:36] <orionsonofneptun> what did i say then???
[17:36] <ikonia> I'm showing you as "signed" in
[17:36] <ikonia> which means it's you
[17:36] <ikonia> I'm not getting the logs up - as the bottom line is I don't trust anything you are saying in #ubuntu is genuine
[17:37] <ikonia> you seem to just cause a problem, then try to get around the ban
[17:37] <ikonia> I'm watching you troll other channels at the same time and that leads me to believe you are again trying to cause a problem in #ubuntu
[17:37] <orionsonofneptun> how do i cause a problem please??? by needing a technical question ansered
[17:37] <ikonia> sorry if that's not a "nice" way to judge it, but based on your previous comments in the channel, and how you are behaving I don't believe what you are saying
[17:38] <ikonia> your history has now got you a reputation that you are not doing anything to correct,
[17:38] <ikonia> I'd rather you didn't use #ubuntu for a while until you've thought about how you behave and present yourself to channels
[17:38] <orionsonofneptun> thats not fair to judge what you dont understand
[17:38] <ikonia> possibly not, but that is how it is
[17:39] <orionsonofneptun> i havent trolled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:39] <orionsonofneptun> tell me exact words please
[17:39] <ikonia> I'm sorry but I don't believe you, and I don't believe your intention
[17:39] <ikonia> the fact is, there are two mutes active for you in #ubuntu that you are trying to evade,
[17:39] <ikonia> they are not resolved, so I've removed you until they can be resolved
[17:40] <orionsonofneptun> i will sue the ones keeping from real world knowledge i assure you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:40] <ikonia> at this time I do not believe you are trying to use #ubuntu properly
[17:40] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: you're welcome to sue me
[17:40] <orionsonofneptun> you are not ikonia
[17:40] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: however at this time there are two mutes for you active in #ubuntu, and until they are resolved by me/others having confidence in your behaviour you won't gain access to #ubuntu
[17:40] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: is that a little more clear to you ?
[17:41] <orionsonofneptun> i am so mad right now i cant think you wont even show me the proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:41] <ikonia> the logs of your behaviour and you being muted/banned in the paste are publicly available
[17:42] <ikonia> !logs | orionsonofneptun
[17:42] <ikonia> I suggest you have a read of them if you want to asses your behaviour
[17:42] <orionsonofneptun> i was learning u buntu for once and you cut me off for that reason i assure you
[17:42] <ikonia> "for once" and there we have it
[17:42] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: sorry, but that's the position, you've wasted the channels time too often that I don't believe what you are saying
[17:43] <ikonia> so until we have confidence in your behaviour you can keep out of #ubuntu.
[17:43] <orionsonofneptun> beacause i have brain issues your are confused agian
[17:43] <ikonia> I'm not confused
[17:43] <orionsonofneptun> yes you are son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[17:43] <ikonia> so I'll now ask you to leave the channel, and come back in 7 days time
[17:43] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: if you can present yourself positivly and explain that you've like to use #ubuntu for support use, I'll be happy to remove the ban
[17:44] <orionsonofneptun> ive tryed a thousand times
[17:44] <ikonia> (or one of the other operators can - it doesn't have to be me)
[17:44] <orionsonofneptun> thier is no reason for this
[17:44] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, please. thats enough for today
[17:44] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: one moment you say has never been a problem, now you say you've tried a thousand times
[17:44] <ikonia> this is what I mean about I cannot believe anything you say or your purpose
[17:45] <ikonia> I'd suggest having a think about it and come back in 7 days
[17:45] <ikonia> if you are genuine about wanting to use the channel, I'm sure we can allow you back in
[17:45] <orionsonofneptun> i need to learn dangit you are screwing me out of vital knowledge dangit this unjustice will not go unseen i will get justice for this
[17:45] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: that's fine, we'll speak to you in 7 days and hopefully we can let you back into #ubuntu
[17:46] <orionsonofneptun> im getting cheated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[17:46] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: clam down, this is part of the reason you've had problems in the past how you talk to people
[17:46] <ikonia> calm even
[17:46] <orionsonofneptun> its a  confusion  of my nick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[17:46] <orionsonofneptun> i cant calm down its like this every day
[17:46] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: it's not, please don't lie
[17:46] <ikonia> come back in 7 days and we'll review your ban then
[17:46] <orionsonofneptun> i seek knowledge and some jerk calls me a troll
[17:47] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: final request, take some time out
[17:47] <orionsonofneptun> this is unfair and you know it thier is no excus
[17:47] <orionsonofneptun> s
[17:47] <ikonia> !guidelines | orionsonofneptun
[17:47] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: have a read through that link that ubottu sent you
[17:47] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: it may give you a better idea of how you are expected to behave in the channels
[17:47] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, please thats enough now
[17:47] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: clear ?
[17:47] <orionsonofneptun> i did and i abide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[17:48] <orionsonofneptun> clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[17:48] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is not needed and part of the reason you are causing a problem
[17:48] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: there are two mutes on you already in the channel that you tried to get around rather than resolve, so it's hard to believe your actions
[17:48] <orionsonofneptun> you dont want me learning vital ecc correctable error knowledge to save my own life
[17:48] <ikonia> come back in 7 days and we'll try to clear it all down
[17:48] <orionsonofneptun> you are a killer
[17:49] <ikonia> ok - save your own life, this is enough now
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[18:50] <bazhang> bitcoin bots?
[18:55] <oCean> was pjwaffle's bot, talk in pm, he promised not to bring it back
[19:47] <bazhang> AP065ED87P0, hi
[19:47] <AP065ED87P0> HI
[19:48] <bazhang> how can we help you
[19:48] <AP065ED87P0> hmm
[19:49] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, hi
[19:49] <orionsonofneptun> hey
[19:49] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: please come back in 7 days as you know
[19:49] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, 7 days, not today
[19:49] <orionsonofneptun> im working real hard to make a positive nick formyself
[19:49] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: please don't start up again - return in 7 days
[19:49] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: you've just been a problem in #freenode - I suggest trying harder
[19:49] <ikonia> come back in 7 days
[19:49] <ikonia> not before
[19:49] <orionsonofneptun> just please let me explain
[19:50] <ikonia> no
[19:50] <ikonia> come back in 7 days not before
[19:50] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, it can be more than 7 days.
[19:50] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, so please lets make it only 7 days.
[19:51] <orionsonofneptun> i need it now very desperatly please use some discression here all i said was what is ecc correctional errors
[19:51] <orionsonofneptun> thats ne reason to ban me
[19:52] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, come back in 7 days.
[19:53] <bazhang> orionsonofneptun, or is that too soon.
[19:53] <bazhang> perhaps 14 would be better
[19:53] <orionsonofneptun> havent i been delayed in life enough???????? i mean this in the calmest most polite way
[19:54] <bazhang> so 14?
[19:54] <ikonia> don't care now
[19:54] <ikonia> not playing stupid games
[19:54] <ikonia> he's just been a total fool wasting peoples time in #freenode, why let him waste peoples in #ubuntu
[20:02] <ikonia> mauke: hi
[20:02] <mauke> ban *!*@c-24-30-56-7.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [by ikonia!~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia, -2498 secs ago]
[20:02] <mauke> this one
[20:03] <ikonia> probably chanserv just being a bit screwy from a netsplit or something
[20:03] <mauke> huh. ok
[20:18] <bazhang> and he ban evaded right in the middle of asking for staff-ship
[20:18] <Pici> heh
[20:18] <ikonia> silly
[20:18] <bazhang> a+ for chutzpah
[20:19] <ikonia> ?
[21:22] <bazhang> M4dH4TT3r, hello
[21:22] <M4dH4TT3r> hello bazhang
[21:23] <M4dH4TT3r> can the ban/bans in #ubuntu be lifted
[21:24] <bazhang> not at this time, no
[21:24] <M4dH4TT3r> let me guess another week?
[21:24] <bazhang> doubtful
[21:24] <M4dH4TT3r> lol
[21:24] <bazhang> try askubuntu.com in the meantime
[21:25] <M4dH4TT3r> so why cant it be removed?
[21:25] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: come on - lets be honest
[21:25] <M4dH4TT3r> ok lets
[21:25] <ikonia> you don't want support, you just want to cause a problem and troll
[21:25] <M4dH4TT3r> not true
[21:25] <ikonia> so why don't you just do it elsewhere
[21:25] <M4dH4TT3r> i do
[21:26] <ikonia> then why do you persistantly cause a problem with bad language/attitude/trolling ?
[21:26] <ikonia> if you genuinly want support, why do you try to be a problem
[21:26] <M4dH4TT3r> disagreeing with someone is not a bad attitude
[21:26] <M4dH4TT3r> or trolling
[21:27] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: welcome to disagree, I have no issue with that
[21:27] <ikonia> but then breaking the rules is not disagreeing
[21:27] <ikonia> that's just trying to be a problem
[21:27] <M4dH4TT3r> so lets be honest ikonia you have banned me for a typo before
[21:27] <ikonia> it's just tedious, so why don't you use other channels
[21:27] <ikonia> then using excuses like "I was drunk"
[21:27] <ikonia> never banned you or anyone for a typo
[21:28] <ikonia> you're banned from a ton of channels, it's not just ubuntu
[21:28] <bazhang> M4dH4TT3r, lets stop here please
[21:28] <ikonia> you are a problem in many channels, so look - use other channels
[21:28] <M4dH4TT3r> let me guess that wasnt you in other rooms i was in yelling troll and getting me banned either?
[21:28] <M4dH4TT3r> before i even spoke
[21:28] <ikonia> you're not getting back into #ubuntu channels anytime soon, so find somewhere else
[21:28] <ikonia> no "wait a week" or anything like that - just find somewhere else
[21:28] <M4dH4TT3r> was that a "yes i did that"?
[21:29] <ikonia> no, not at all
[21:29] <M4dH4TT3r> liez
[21:29] <ikonia> but I'm just interested in being realistic with you here - you're not getting back in for a long time, so I suggest look for somewhere else
[21:29] <M4dH4TT3r> its been a long time think about it
[21:30] <ikonia> you've had the ban removed many times and then put back on
[21:30] <ikonia> so you can't get in line - so find somewhere else
[21:30] <ikonia> thats the bottom line
[21:30] <ikonia> best of luck with whatever different channels you use, or support resources you want to use forum/askubuntu etc etc
[21:30] <M4dH4TT3r> in line ive been in line a long time and still havent gotten past the bouncer
[21:31] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: nothing more to discuss
[21:31] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: please leave now, and start looking for support alternatives
[21:31] <M4dH4TT3r> and thats always how you play it ikonia you start spouting communist bs and then try to end the conversation
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[22:01] <ikonia> it's just nonsense
[22:02] <Fuchs> ikonia: I assume that M4dH4TT3r is aware of the possible actions if unhappy with operators here?
[22:02] <ikonia> very much
[22:03] <ikonia> he's a long term idiot banned from tons of channels
[22:03] <ikonia> he's just trying to kick up a fuss, he knows everything there is to know about what to do/how to resolve etc
[22:03] <Fuchs> oh, I already had the pleasure with him in the past,
[22:03] <Fuchs> I just wondered why he rambles on #freenode instead
[22:03] <ikonia> because he's trying to kick up a fuss
[22:05] <Fuchs> oh well
[22:05] <ikonia> sorry about him
[22:06] <ikonia> hi pfifo
[22:06] <pfifo> what did i do wrong?
[22:06] <Fuchs> ikonia: no worries, not your fault (I hope!) ;)
[22:06] <ikonia> pfifo: did you see the bit where I asked you to stop making things up ?
[22:06] <ikonia> Fuchs: I assure you it's not
[22:07] <pfifo> yeah, so i quit messing around
[22:07] <ikonia> pfifo: then you made a comment about canonical locking you in with handcuffs
[22:07] <ikonia> you did this straight after I told you to stop it
[22:07] <ikonia> which is again just nonsense rambling
[22:07] <ikonia> so I removed you
[22:08] <ikonia> what did you think was going to happen - I ask you to stop making things up (it missleads other users) and straight away, you make up more stuff and post it to the channel
[22:08] <pfifo> ok, i will really stop
[22:08] <ikonia> well, you have stopped
[22:08] <ikonia> I've banned you from the channel now
[22:08] <ikonia> I shouldn't have had to
[22:08] <ikonia> do you think it's funny to just make up stuff in front of 1400 people ?
[22:09] <ikonia> no, it's not, it's not helpful and missleading
[22:09] <ikonia> then when I ask you to stop you do it again,
[22:09] <ikonia> I shouldn't need to ban you to get you to use your head to realise that making stuff up is just stupid and unhelpful and then to do it straight after an op asks you not to.....you can take some time out from #ubuntu
[22:10] <pfifo> fine, how long?
[22:10] <ikonia> come back in a week
[22:10] <pfifo> you really think it deserve a whole week?
[22:10] <ikonia> yeah, after you did it 30 seconds after I told you not to
[22:11] <ikonia> that's just trying to be smart and push your luck
[22:11] <ikonia> so take a week to think about if you want to try to tell lies in the channel again
[22:11] <ikonia> I don't find it funny when 1400+ other users are watching you tell them nosense
[22:11] <pfifo> well I didnt realize you were ordering me to stop
[22:12] <ikonia> I shoudln't have to
[22:12] <ikonia> common sense kicks in
[22:12] <ikonia> pfifo: how would you feel if when you come back in week and I said - sorry it's actually 1 month
[22:12] <ikonia> I just lied and misslead you to be funny
[22:13] <ikonia> I shouldn't have to tell you that "telling people lies about ubuntu is a bad thing to do in an ubuntu channel"
[22:13] <ikonia> and then when I DO tell you to stop, you do it again ???? come on think it through, is that a good thing to do
[22:14] <pfifo> you could have said 'pfifo if you dont shut up I will ban you'
[22:14] <ikonia> anyway, see you in a week, have a think about if you want to start speading nonsense information in #ubuntu again
[22:14] <ikonia> pfifo: I shouldn't have to
[22:14] <pfifo> and yes you do have to
[22:15] <ikonia> you should have enough common sense to realise that doing it is wrong, and doing it after you've been told not to is just rude
[22:15] <ikonia> pfifo: well, no you know
[22:15] <ikonia> now
[22:15] <ikonia> see you in a week
[22:15] <pfifo> mybe I dont have enough common sense then
[22:15] <ikonia> clearly not
[22:15] <ikonia> think it through for a week
[22:15] <ikonia> bye
[22:17] <Fuchs> right, have a nice day / evening  *waves*