[10:53] <cjwatson> ScottK: sync from incoming the old-fashioned way> FWIW I removed the LP code for that
[10:54] <cjwatson> I mean for old-fashioned syncs in general
[11:33] <jamespage> morning all
[11:34] <jamespage> Riddell, I just finished uploading the zentyal packages associated with bug 928501 to NEW for precise
[11:34] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 928501 in ebox "[FFe] Upload new Zentyal packages (was Precise will ship totally broken ebox packages)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928501
[11:34] <jamespage> adding transitional package took a bit longer than expected
[11:35] <jamespage> if you would so kind as to review much appreciated
[11:37] <Riddell> jamespage: thanks, added to my today's todo list
[11:41] <jamespage> Riddell, ta - any chance you could review owasp-java-html-sanitizer as well?  I need it to close out a security vulnerability in Jenkins
[11:45] <Riddell> jamespage: will do
[11:45] <jamespage> Riddell, marvellous - thankyou!
[12:46] <ScottK> cjwatson: OK.  I won't suggest that again.  Thanks for letting me know.
[12:48] <cjwatson> syncpackage --no-lp or whatever is still usable in emergencies
[13:22] <knome> anybody know why xubuntu i386 images aren't building since march 15?
[13:23] <slangasek> join #ubuntu-installer
[13:23] <slangasek> doh
[13:23] <knome> :)=
[13:55] <cjwatson> knome: I thought I fixed that yesterday evening
[13:56] <cjwatson> did it fail again this morning
[13:56] <cjwatson> ?
[13:58] <cjwatson> hm, ok, still a problem
[14:01] <cjwatson> knome: fixed
[14:01] <cjwatson> knome: I've kicked off fresh builds for you
[14:18] <knome> cjwatson, thanks :)
[14:25] <skaet> pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/959032 - could you please review and comment on the impact of letting this onto beta 2 disk.  Want to make sure this doesn't cause disks to get oversized.   We pointed to it in the beta 1 release.
[14:25] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 959032 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Checkbox-app-testing" [Undecided,New]
[14:34] <pitti> skaet: "It is not intended to be included on the final cd."
[14:34] <pitti> skaet: so should not harm too much
[14:34] <skaet> pitti,  worried about beta 2 getting oversize (and less usuable)
[14:35] <pitti> skaet: asked
[14:35] <pitti> skaet: right, did the same
[14:36] <skaet> pitti, thanks.
[15:28] <ScottK> Component mismatches kind of exploded.
[15:34] <infinity> ScottK: We, err.  Ew.  Did someone promote something haskellish to main?
[15:35] <ScottK> I suspect it was a new upload of something MaaS like.
[15:35] <cjwatson> distro-info, I'm going to guess
[15:35] <ScottK> Dunno.
[15:35] <infinity> Looks like.
[15:35] <infinity> (Looks like distro-info, that is)
[15:35] <cjwatson> cobbler recommends: distro-info build-depends: haskell world
[15:35] <debfx> could someone please have a look at the zsh FFe request: bug #762286
[15:35] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 762286 in zsh "FFe: Please merge zsh 4.3.17-1 from Debian" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762286
[15:35] <infinity> Why on earth is distro-info anything more complex than a simple shell script? :P
[15:35] <cjwatson> and I think separately, maas stuff pulling in python-support *spit*
[15:36] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg has the graph
[15:37] <ScottK> cjwatson: Good thing all this stuff is landing early in the cycle so there's plenty of time to sort it out.
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[15:37] <infinity> *cough*
[15:39] <ScottK> I think getting stuff in early is the most important for projects developed specifically for Ubuntu and it's exactly those (the ones outside the distro team) that seem to be the worst at aligning to the schedule.
[15:40] <Riddell> it's because they align to the ubuntu 6 month cycle with ubuntu final release being the psychological target for their final release when they want to align to ubuntu cycle - 2 months
[15:41] <ScottK> Agreed.
[15:41] <infinity> ScottK: Thankfully, all the crap cobbler is trying to pull in is in Recommends.  It could just be that those should be suggests.
[15:41] <ScottK> It's even been discussed.
[15:41] <infinity> (I mean, really, debmirror?)
[15:41] <ScottK> infinity: Good news.
[15:41] <ScottK> They just never seem to do it.
[15:42] <infinity> Daviey: Can you look into getting your minions to evaluate the cobbler Recommends line and drop all/most of that to Suggests?
[15:44] <Daviey> infinity: it's in progress
[15:44] <infinity> Daviey: Danke.
[15:44] <Daviey> Really, does this require 4 people to discuss? :)
[15:45] <Daviey> I'm on it :)
[15:45] <infinity> Daviey: Almost none of that looks like it should be a Recommend to me.
[15:45] <Daviey> distro-info will get rid of the haskel noise.
[15:45] <infinity> Daviey: But it's also trying to promote debmirror, hardlink... I stopped reading after that.
[15:46] <Daviey> infinity: good idea
[15:46] <infinity> Daviey: Actually, just those.
[15:46] <infinity> Daviey: So, either those need an MIR, or they need to be dropped to Suggests too.
[15:47] <Daviey> infinity: you don't think i knew that?
[15:48] <infinity> Daviey: :P
[15:49] <infinity> Daviey: We get grumpy when our pretty archive checking tools explode.
[15:49] <ScottK> And every cycle it's something.
[15:52] <Laney> Do you have any easy way of discovering (to remove) all OOD haskell binaries?
[15:54] <cjwatson> are they not NBS?
[15:55] <Laney> no
[15:55] <Laney> like some things might have started to depend on ghc-ghci which isn't available on !x86
[15:55] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_outdate_all.txt perhaps?
[15:56] <cjwatson> ditto testing-ports
[15:56] <Laney> yes
[15:56] <Laney> shall I file a bug or can you do it from the list there?
[15:56] <cjwatson> not just now, installer-sprinting
[15:57] <Laney> in general
[15:57] <cjwatson> probably best file a bug
[15:57] <Laney> ok
[15:57] <cjwatson> if it were a short list and I didn't have to exercise any editorial discretion then wouldn't need a bug
[15:57] <cjwatson> but I'd be a bit scared about doing things wrong in this case
[15:57] <Laney> libghc-* looks right from a quick glance
[15:57] <Laney> i'll do it later, thanks
[15:58] <infinity> Laney: Is there any active development to make ghci work elsewhere (like, say, armhf)?
[16:01] <Laney> infinity: I would like to say so, but really I have no idea
[16:02] <Laney> there is a "ghcarm" effort, but I don't know where they are putting their efforts
[16:04] <Laney> I understand the dynamic linker is the main problem; check out rts/Linker.c
[16:18] <Daviey> infinity / ScottK: The tool and depends you are mostly talking about, has had a MIR open for quite some time.
[16:19] <ScottK> Yes and IIRC you gave it an FFe.
[16:19] <Daviey> ScottK: no, that was for maas.. not cobbler
[16:19] <ScottK> Ah.  Right.
[16:19]  * ScottK can't keep track.
[16:20] <Daviey> ScottK: thankfully, i am :)
[16:22] <ScottK> MaaS appears to be Canonical's major entry in the "never planned to work with the release schedule" sweepstakes for this cycle.
[16:27] <Daviey> ScottK: Are there prizes ?
[16:28] <ScottK> So far mostly public ridicule, but who knows what the future will bring.
[16:28] <Daviey> I'm missing the ridicule, must try harder.
[16:31] <ScottK> We haven't declared a winner for this cycle yet.
[16:31] <ScottK> There may be some last minute font crisis again.
[17:56] <jamespage> Riddell, thanks for reviewing/accepting the zentyal packages
[18:09] <Riddell> jamespage: thanks for your contribution to Ubuntu :)
[18:11] <knome> ubuntu studio needs UIFe for #959504
[18:12] <knome> stgraber, skaet: ^ that's for the slideshow
[18:14] <knome> also, when zsyncing, how does a person know which image (s)he has?
[18:25] <phillw> knome: if you do an ls it should report its full name.
[18:25] <knome> including the date?
[18:26] <sbeattie> 'isoinfo -x /.disk/info -J -i /path/to/iso' should give the build information encoded in the iso.
[18:26] <knome> okay, thanks
[18:43] <knome> btw... one of our testers reported that zsyncs from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ gave him an iso from february
[18:43] <knome> ^ explains the question before
[18:46] <cjwatson> don't know why that would be, since it's current
[18:47] <cjwatson> maybe a bogus web cache in the way or something
[22:02] <knome> cjwatson, https://launchpad.net/debian-cd is still used?
[22:02] <cjwatson> yes - specifically https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu
[22:02] <cjwatson> only tangentially for live CDs, though
[22:03] <knome> hmm, so it means we have to update the logo there too... :)
[22:49] <ScottK> slangasek: , cjwatson, whoever's around: Would you please promote python3-nose to Main.  Now that we're building python3 packages for numpy it's needed as a build-dep and it's from a source that's already in main.
[22:50] <ScottK> barry: ^^^
[23:00] <slangasek> looking
[23:01] <slangasek> ScottK: done
[23:01] <ScottK> slangasek: Thanks.