[00:06] <hilarie> Is it possible to expand / to another disk (usb in this case) http://paste.ubuntu.com/890030/ plenty of room not on that one
[00:07] <qman__> not after the fact, you'd have to have used LVM to begin with
[00:07] <hilarie> What's LVM?
[00:08] <qman__> it's not a good idea to do that anyway, one USB flash drive is bad enough, two is going to make it perform much worse
[00:09] <qman__> !lvm
[00:09] <hilarie> Its not that bad after the cache sizes gets really large :)
[00:10] <hilarie> So there is nothing to save it now?
[00:11] <qman__> technically possible but very involved, quicker and easier to start over with LVM
[00:12] <hilarie> Would it be possible install ubuntu server via a virtual machine, onto a different usb drive, then just swap them out? (the server doesn't have a monitor anymore)
[01:56] <epifanio> hi All
[01:58] <epifanio> i'm running ubuntu server (lucid) .. i'm trying to load an "user" script at login .. i tried with rc-update but no clue ... the script is executed as root and not in the home directory
[01:59] <epifanio> it is a simple shell script to run a pytohn services ... i'd like to load it when the machine start (so to avoid to login with ssh and start the command from the shell manually)
[01:59] <epifanio> have you any hints on how can i do ?
[02:01] <twb> epifanio: should this python service run as root?
[02:01] <epifanio> twb no, i need it as normal user
[02:01] <twb> Then run crontab -e as that use, and write an @reboot entry into his crontab
[02:02] <twb> *as that user
[02:02] <epifanio> my server has no desktop environment ... i tried  on an other linux box (xfce4 based) and actually a solution can be to copy a runscript.desktop  inside the directory :  /home/user/.conf/autostartup/
[02:02] <epifanio> oh!
[02:02] <epifanio> i'll try it :)
[02:05] <epifanio> to have it running at each boot .. i have to  use all ''
[02:06] <epifanio> .. all :  '*'  ?
[02:06] <epifanio> like :  * * * * 1 executable arg1
[02:08] <epifanio> oh i see  .. @reboot   sorry
[02:13] <twb> man 5 crontab, IIRC
[02:19] <epifanio> @reboot /usr/local/bin/ipython notebook --no-browser
[02:20] <epifanio> works great!  thanks!!!
[02:25] <twb> You should probably just use a shebang
[02:26] <jetole> Hey guys. Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I have a firewall system with two IP on two subnets on the same LAN which is how it is supposed to be for now however I have dhcpd running which has a subnet defined for only one of those lans and I find it's mostly working however the clients are getting the dhcp config from the other lan IP even though it's the right config. For example the fw has 10.1.0.1/24 and 172.16.0.1/24 on the ...
[02:26] <jetole> ... same nic and it is server dhcp to 10.1.0.0/24 and it's doing it right except it's sending the data for the 10.1.0.0/24 network from the 172.16.0.1 IP. Does anyone know if there is any way to confine it to that one IP address?
[02:27] <twb> jetole: slow down.  You have one network running two IP ranges, e.g. 192.168/16 and 10/8?
[02:27] <jetole> twb: sure. yes
[02:31] <jetole> twb: the firewall has IP's for each net. They are both on the same broadcast LAN. The firewall is serving dhcp for 10/8 via 192.168/16 IP. 10/8 is the only configured subnet in dhcpd. The clients are getting the correct config. They are just getting it from an IP outside of the scope of the subnet they are receiving it from
[02:31] <jetole> twb: does that make sense?
[02:42] <twb> Sorry, was elsewhere
[02:42] <jetole> it's cool. any thoughts?
[02:43] <twb> "getting config" as in they're seeing a DHCPACK?
[02:43] <jetole> As in they are being properly setup with IP, routing, DNS servers etc.
[02:44] <jetole> As far as I can tell everything is working as it should except the server is sending it's reponses from the wrong IP but that doesn't seem to interfere. Nothing seems broken. Just logistically speaking it doesn't look right
[02:44] <twb> oh I see
[02:45] <twb> So what you're saying is that the server running dhcpd has (say) 10.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.1, and it's sending DHCP responses saying "you are not 10.0.0.2" but it's sending them with a src ip of 192.168.0.1?
[02:46] <jetole> it's sending responses saying "you _are_ 10.0.0.2" but from the source ip of 192.168.0.1. yeah. Thats about it
[02:46] <twb> IIUC that's because UDP can't know which IP to use on a multi-IP iface, so it picks the widest/primary IP on that iface.  If both IPs on that iface are in the same subnet, you can use "ip address" to set which is primary
[02:48] <jetole> well they are on different subnets. I don't think this is anything UDP specific but I think dhcpd is replying based on some logic that says just use this IP but I'm wondering if there is some way I can define which one to use
[02:48] <jetole> I haven't figured it out yet from the man page though
[02:52] <twb> Dunno, sorry
[02:52] <twb> Try talking to the dhcpd people
[05:24] <esuave> got a question, so i can telnet on port 22 to my server but cannot ssh..
[05:24] <esuave> i am able to ssh for a few hours.. than when i come back to it.. it wont let me ssh.. it times out
[05:24] <esuave> any ideas?
[05:41] <twb> esuave: 22 is not for ssh
[05:41] <twb> Er, sorry
[05:41] <twb> 22 is not for telnet.
[05:41] <esuave> ?
[05:41] <esuave> right.. but i can telnet on 22
[05:41] <twb> telnet runs on tcp/23, ssh runs on tcp/22.
[05:42] <esuave> i can telnet to the server on port 22 which means the port is not being blocked.
[05:42] <esuave> i just cant ssh in to the box.
[05:42] <esuave> its like the server is going into some kind of sleep mode or something
[05:42] <twb> Oh, you're abusing telnet instead of using nc
[05:43] <twb> It is most likely PMTUD
[05:43] <esuave> netcat works too
[05:43] <twb> Are you blocking ICMP?
[05:43] <esuave> no ports are forwarded
[05:43] <esuave> the correct ports are forwarded
[05:43] <twb> That's not what I asked.
[05:43] <esuave> i was able to ssh just fine like 2 hours ago
[05:43] <esuave> i have to reboot the machine to ssh again
[05:44] <twb> Please confirm that ICMP is not blocked.
[05:46] <esuave> twb: ICMP would be on the router?
[05:48] <esuave> i would think it wouldnt be blocked since i reboot the machine and I am able to ssh? i dont know.. it seems like a few hours later it always locks up and i cant ssh :/
[05:48] <esuave> its odd
[05:48] <twb> esuave: on ANY router between the SSH server and SSH client, or on the SSH server, or on the SSH client.
[05:49] <twb> If you can't ping the host, ICMP is probably blocked.
[05:49] <esuave> i can ping it
[05:49] <twb> However just because ping works doesn't mean the PMTUD types of ICMP aren't blocked.
[05:49] <twb> OK, have you looked at the logs of the ssh server?
[05:49] <twb> Are you on a dynamic IP?  Maybe the IP just changes and you don't know the new IP.
[05:50] <esuave> yeah.. nothin unusual there
[05:50] <esuave> nah its static
[05:50] <twb> If you have an SSH session going and it hangs, maybe you don't have TCP keepalives turned on in .ssh/config ?
[05:50] <esuave> you think the computer might be doing some kind of power saving mode?
[05:50] <esuave> from a bios setting?
[05:50] <twb> That is also possible.
[05:50] <twb> One would hope the BIOS fucks off as soon as the kernel loads.
[05:51] <esuave> yeah cuase the server works perfect for like 2 hours than i goes blank..
[05:51] <twb> Is it always exactly two hours?
[05:51] <esuave> yeah
[05:51] <twb> That is highly suspicious.
[05:52] <esuave> yeah.. i might just do a reinstall :/
[05:52] <twb> Can you reproduce this issue with other hosts on the client side, perhaps at other sites?
[05:52] <esuave> its just a test server anyway
[05:53] <esuave> nah.. thats the only host i have running on that IP
[05:53] <esuave> its an old piece of crap computer too
[05:53] <esuave> that doesnt probably help either
[05:53] <esuave> lol
[05:54] <esuave> oh well. ill try a reinstall.. maybe move to heron.  Thank you for your help twb!
[05:54] <twb> hardy?
[05:55] <twb> If you are running something older than hardy you have big problems
[05:55] <twb> All of those (except maybe 6.04 dapper) are already end-of-lifed
[05:55] <esuave> nah im running 10.04 right now
[05:55] <esuave> but i wanna move back to hardy
[05:57] <twb> He's nuts.
[07:20] <Tm_T> morning
[08:22] <_ruben> urgh .. stupid "kernel time sync status change" log messages, cluttering up my logs
[08:25] <twb> _ruben: tell logcheck to ignore them
[08:26] <twb> I gave up trying to actually get rid of them 18 months ago
[08:32] <_ruben> twb: i *could* add a grep to  my tail -f, but meh :)
[08:34] <twb> grep --line-buffered
[08:34] <twb> BTDTBTTS
[08:35] <twb> tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog /var/log/auth.log | grep --line-buffered foo is one of those things I type by pure reflex
[08:35] <twb> Oh add an & on the end
[08:35] <twb> Nearly as much as egrep -v '^[[:space:]]*(#|$)' /etc/foorc
[08:41] <lynxman> morning o/
[08:44] <twb> Don't call me o/
[08:49] <jamespage> morning all
[09:02] <bencer_> morning jamespage, did you have a look at my last upload?
[09:02] <jamespage> bencer_, good morning
[09:02] <jamespage> looking at it right now
[09:02] <bencer_> great! thanks
[09:33] <tjaalton> oh this is just great
[09:35] <tjaalton> I fixed cobbler-ubuntu-import -U to actually work, just that now it removed all systems using precise-*
[09:35] <tjaalton> and the profiles
[09:43] <tjaalton> yeah, it's totally hosed :(
[09:43] <tjaalton> it'll rename the old profile, and then later remove it
[09:43] <tjaalton> then all the systems using the old profile will get deleted as well
[09:43] <tjaalton> smoser: ^
[09:47] <koolhead11> tjaalton: well i doubt systems will get deleted :)
[09:47] <tjaalton> koolhead11: how so? I've reproduced it
[09:47] <koolhead11> you can system edit and modify profile it should now point too
[09:48] <tjaalton> I have a distro/profile I'm not using. added a system using the profile, then deleted the iso so d-u-i would update it. after it's finished the system is no more
[09:49] <koolhead11> tjaalton: on paper systems and profiles are two separate entity i suppose. System is a wrapper on top of profile which means when you want one of your VM to say install "glance" other "nova" another "keystone" in terms of openstack
[09:49] <koolhead11> you will create 3 system file on top of the precise profile
[09:49] <tjaalton> yes, I don't understand how all that is relevant though
[09:50] <koolhead11> i can only think of replacing my new profile to available system.
[09:50] <koolhead11> if system gets deleted i am afraid its a flaw
[09:51] <tjaalton> no shit :)
[09:52] <koolhead11> tjaalton: :D BTW i have not touched the shiny web-interface, i do all my mighty cobbler stuff with command line
[09:52] <tjaalton> this is fairly new functionality in c-u-i that got merged recently, and apparently not tested at all, since before my changes it would just leave "tmp-$profile" and fail
[09:53] <tjaalton> now I'm thinking perhaps to revert the changes so no one will break their systems..
[09:55] <koolhead11> jamespage: the systems bug on oneric would be fixed now?
[09:57] <jamespage> koolhead11, cascading deleted
[09:57]  * jamespage sighs
[09:58] <jamespage> dependent objects get deleted in cobbler (well they did last time I looked)
[10:05] <koolhead11> tjaalton: well your correct then.
[10:06] <koolhead11> and i would say that is a flaw in cobbler then. :D
[10:13] <jamespage> koolhead11, tjaalton: not its best feature
[10:16] <tjaalton> found the bug
[10:16] <tjaalton> cobbler distro rename --name="$old_distro" --newname="last-$old_distro"
[10:16] <tjaalton> descendants=`cobbler profile find --distro="$old_distro"`
[10:16] <tjaalton> what's wrong with the second line? :)
[10:19] <koolhead11> tjaalton: try cobbler distro rename <enter>
[10:20] <tjaalton> "--name is required" ?
[10:20] <koolhead11> it will give you the exact comamnd parameters also its not good idea to rename distro. most thing cobbler makes sense with starts from profile IMHO :)
[10:21] <koolhead11> tjaalton: provide the current name then
[10:21] <tjaalton> I know what's wrong with the code
[10:21] <tjaalton> no need to teach me cobbler cli :)
[10:21] <koolhead11> tjaalton: sorry sir. :)
[11:01] <tjaalton> the fix is to use --distro="last-$old_distro" in the descendants= line
[11:14] <tjaalton> uploaded
[11:27] <jamespage> bencer_, uploading now
[11:41] <bencer_> jamespage: cool! so now what's next? an archive admin needs to review it from the new queue, right?
[11:42] <jamespage> bencer_, yep - might get some feedback but hopefully they will be accepted.
[11:43] <jamespage> bencer_, Riddell has stuck it on his list of things TODO today
[11:45] <bencer_> jamespage: cool thanks
[12:01] <tjaalton> oh fun, now ubuntu-enlist profile is broken
[13:22] <Psi-Jack> Is there anything in Ubuntu 10.04 that somehow makes use of a file /etc/iptables.up.rules or is this something likely custom setup?
[13:25] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh, nevermind, it was something someone did custom, which is epic lame.
[13:43] <jcastro> SpamapS, this bug sucks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/psmisc/+bug/877894
[13:46] <weaselbe> I'm having trouble accessing an apache site running on my local network.
[13:50] <husien> hello guys
[13:53] <husien> is it must to regestar the domain name into the domain reseller?
[13:53] <husien> sorry i'm new
[13:58] <husien> 4 weaks ago i install ubuntu server 11.10 into my virtual box.
[13:58] <husien> after that i follow how toforge The Perfect Server - Ubuntu 11.10 With Nginx [ISPConfig 3]
[14:07] <hallyn> jjohansen: if i ship a profile in /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-default, which gets optionally transitioned to by /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.lxc-start,
[14:08] <hallyn> jjohansen: from debian/rules should i just do 'apparmor_parser -r' on that file?
[14:08] <hallyn> jjohansen: (on the other file i'm doing dh_apparmor, but i can't do that with this file right?)
[14:09] <hallyn> stgraber: i'ts not quite done yet, but i'm thinking of just going with lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/precise/lxc/lxc-aa for per-container profiles.
[14:09] <jjohansen> hallyn: I think so, but I am no expert on dh_apparmor, lets ask jdstrand^
[14:09] <hallyn> stgraber: i.e., i won't create custom profiles, just support them if user wants to creat them
[14:10] <hallyn> jjohansen: thanks
[14:10] <hallyn> libvirt only creates them when vms get defined, and doesn't create a default, so i can't look to it for an example :)
[14:11] <stgraber> hallyn: how are you dealing with nesting then? I thought having per-container profiles was the only way to allow /sys/fs/cgroup/*/<hostname>/**
[14:11] <jdstrand> hallyn: you don't want to run apparmor_parser -r from debian/rules. I assume you mean in some postinst?
[14:12] <hallyn> stgraber: we'll just not support it by default, but offer (on wiki?) profiles which support it?
[14:12] <hallyn> stgraber: or we can quickly add that later, i just want to focus on getting per-container support in first
[14:13] <hallyn> jdstrand: well, IIUC dh_apparmor --profile-name=usr.bin.lxc-start from debian/rules creates the postinst bit for me
[14:13] <hallyn> so yeah, i guess i would add the parser line to postinst myself :)
[14:14] <hallyn> jdstrand: but i guess my q was whether there is some other dh_* i should use instead,
[14:14] <hallyn> or if that's ok
[14:15] <hallyn> jdstrand: and yes, if you hadn't corrected me i would've unthinkingly, wrongly put it into debian/rules :)  thanks
[14:16] <jdstrand> hallyn: I am not totally clear on what you want to do. you ship /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-default, which you use dh_apparmor on, then you want to optionally support /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.lxc-start, which you do not ship?
[14:16] <stgraber> hallyn: right, getting per-container profiles at all is more important than having the nesting by default, agreed
[14:17] <hallyn> jdstrand: no, /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.lxc-start is entered always by lxc-start;  then
[14:17] <hallyn> jdstrand: right before running /sbin/init, it will manually aa_change_policy to a new policy;
[14:17] <hallyn> jdstrand: by default that will be /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-default,
[14:17] <hallyn> jdstrand: or the config file for the container can specify another policy under /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-*
[14:18] <hallyn> jdstrand: of course i could stick clsoer to the libvirt model and always create a unique policy for each container...
[14:19] <jdstrand> hallyn: so you just need to make sure /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-* is loaded so aa_change_profile() doesn't fail. correct?
[14:19] <hallyn> jdstrand: the reason i'm not is that there's question then about whether the general lxc-create program should do that, or the per-distro templates should
[14:19] <hallyn> jdstrand: yes
[14:20] <jdstrand> hallyn: I don't think you can solve that wholly in packaging. ie, if the user changes the config file, the user won't fiddle with 'dpkg-reconfigure' to make sure that the policy is loaded
[14:20] <jdstrand> hallyn: seems that the lxc tools need to load the policy that is specified in the config file
[14:21] <jdstrand> (like we do in libvirt)
[14:21] <hallyn> jdstrand: meaning on container start, do apparmor_parser ont he specified policy file?
[14:21] <jdstrand> hallyn: if the thing doing the container start reads that config, yes
[14:22] <hallyn> jdstrand: i was just going to require users to load the policies they create... wasn'g going to try and second-guess that in packaging.  only the deafult policy i want to load at pakcage install
[14:22] <hallyn> jdstrand: then, later on we *will* create policies for *some* containers, which we'll load after creation
[14:22] <jdstrand> hallyn: that works too-- then just ignore the lxc-* stuff as well. you aren't updating it via packaging anyway- no reason to fiddle with it in packaging postinst
[14:23] <hallyn> wait...
[14:23] <hallyn> jdstrand: 'that works too' = loading policy at cotnainer start?
[14:23] <jdstrand> jdstrand: ignoring it
[14:23] <hallyn> ah
[14:23] <jdstrand> either load it at container start, or just ignore it in packaging completely, letting the user do it
[14:24] <hallyn> jdstrand: but can i load just the lxc-default profile at package postinst?
[14:24] <jdstrand> hallyn: sure. that is a file you are providing, correct?
[14:24] <hallyn> jdstrand: mind if, when i get it working, i send you a pointer to the bzr tree with the diff?
[14:24] <hallyn> yes
[14:25] <jdstrand> hallyn: yes, then that makes sense. I'm just saying if you aren't providing the files via packaging, don't manage them via packaging. you could make it easier on the user and load it on container start, but that is a different issue
[14:25] <hallyn> jdstrand: ok
[14:26] <hallyn> jdstrand: thanks, ttyl
[14:26] <jdstrand> np
[14:36] <hallyn> jdstrand: say, i have a diff q.  libvirt-bin.postrm does delgroup libvirtd.  I thought I'd read somewhere that policy was to not remove users/groups at package removal?
[14:36] <hallyn> (wondering whether to do same for lxc)
[14:37] <jdstrand> hallyn: it isn't policy. some people remove it some don't. there are arguments for and agaisnt it. it has been discussed a bit in Debian
[14:38] <hallyn> jdstrand: ok - thanks
[14:38] <jdstrand> hallyn: the trend seems to be more people are doing it
[14:38] <jdstrand> (doing the removal)
[14:52] <SpamapS> jcastro: that bug, btw, is fixed in precise
[15:04] <jcastro> SpamapS, doing wonders for me over in what we ship for real. :)
[15:05] <SpamapS> jcastro: marked that bug for SRU..
[15:05] <SpamapS> jcastro: psmisc's fuser is apparently pretty broken in 11.10
[15:34] <zul> jdstrand: im just trying to get updated did anything happen with the keystone MIR last week
[15:36] <jdstrand> zul: yes, I conditionally ackd it
[15:36] <jdstrand> zul: see the bug (881464)
[15:37] <zul> jdstrand: cool thanks
[15:37] <jdstrand> zul: welcome back!
[15:37] <zul> jdstrand: thanks
[15:43] <benji> hallyn: I want to alert you to the existance of bug 959352; it shouldn't cause too many people problems, but what problems it does cause will likely be hard to diagnose
[15:44] <hallyn> benji: yeah, i'm looking at that right now
[15:44] <benji> cool
[15:47] <zul> jdstrand: have you started the horizon security review yet?
[15:50] <jdstrand> zul: nope. I am working on juju, then cobbler then horizon. that was the priority as specified by Daviey et al
[15:51] <zul> jdstrand: gotcha thanks :)
[15:52] <bencer_> jamespage: btw, i've just pushed to lp and proposed a merge of a changeset that includes a zentyal chapter on the ubuntu-server guide :)
[15:52] <jamespage> bencer_, nice one!
[15:52] <bencer_> i would have liked to include some screenshots
[15:53] <bencer_> but i didn't see any screenshots on the server-guide and despite i asked on the ml and on irc channel, nobody replied
[15:53] <bencer_> so i dont really know the procedure or even if its allowed
[16:19] <ahs3> jamespage: you have a few minutes for some questions about the jenkins-slave packages in precise?
[16:19] <jamespage> ahs3, sure
[16:20] <ahs3> jamespage: groovy.  so, the upstart attempts to download slave.jar and ends up with a zero length file -- i'm assuming i'm doing something stupid, yeah :)?
[16:21] <jamespage> ahs3: is the jenkins server running when it tries to start?
[16:22] <ahs3> jamespage: well, i've got the master up and visible in a browser; is there another process to be run?
[16:25] <ahs3> jamespage: the other curiosity is that /var/run/jenkins doesn't seem to get created for me automagically...
[16:43] <jamespage> ahs3, no that should be sufficient
[16:44]  * jamespage goes to take a look
[16:44] <ahs3> jamespage: hrm.  getting a 404 on the wget in the upstart script...
[16:46] <jamespage> ahs3: have you configured a slave in the jenkins master for this jenkins slave?
[16:46] <jamespage> I think it will 404 if you have not
[16:55] <ahs3> jamespage: yup, the node is set up as a slave, and the master tries to contact it
[16:55] <jamespage> ahs3, that has a few contradictory configurations in it
[16:56] <jamespage> ahs3: can you walk me through what you have done so far?
[16:57] <ahs3> jamespage: argh.  found it.  JENKINS_URL was not set properly in defaults :(
[16:57] <jamespage> ahs3, that would be it
[16:57] <jamespage> you can run slaves in a few different ways
[16:57]  * ahs3 reminds himself not to edit scripts late at night...
[16:58] <ahs3> right.  this was just my first attempt at setting up a slave
[16:59] <ahs3> part of what i wanted to experiment with was the different ways to run them
[17:04] <jamespage> ahs3, so the jenkins slave package is really aimed at
[17:04] <jamespage> 1) deploying slaves via SSH - it has all the right dependencies to support SSH access, Java, users etc...
[17:04] <marrusl> who here loves nscd?  :)
[17:04] <jamespage> that requires no setup on the slave - just configuration in Jenkins
[17:05] <jamespage> ahs3: 2) where you can't SSH to the slave - you can configure the JENKINS_URL for the jenkins-slave upstart config and have the slave initiate the connect to the master
[17:07] <ahs3> jamespage: ah, okay.  so in the default case, i do no config on the slave at all, just install the packages?
[17:07] <ahs3> jamespage: sorry, default meaning the "deploy via SSH" case...
[17:07] <jamespage> ahs3, yep - you will need to installs the ssh-slaves plugin on the Jenkins master
[17:07] <jamespage> (I'm working on making that part of the default jenkins install)
[17:08] <ahs3> jamespage: nod.  k, i was doing more than needed
[17:25] <med_> Hi, which cloud-image works best with LXC?  precise-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz -or-  precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz  -or-  precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img (all from cloud-images.ubuntu.com)
[17:25] <utlemming> med: precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz
[17:26] <med_> utlemming, danke
[17:26] <utlemming> med: you can automagically use it with "lxc -n AutomagicCloudImage -t ubuntu-cloud"
[17:26] <utlemming> er...lxc-create
[17:26] <utlemming> and there are options to uncloud them too
[17:33] <med_> utlemming, I'm doing this inside of openstack so I can't use the automagic.
[17:53] <blendedbychris1> should i be using lvm if i am virtualizing with hyperv?
[17:56] <ikonia> BlendedByChris: up to you
[17:56] <BlendedByChris> just curios if there is an advtage
[17:56] <ikonia> BlendedByChris: use lvm because you want/need to, nothing to do with the virtualized host
[17:56] <ikonia> no more / less than using lvm on a physical host
[17:59] <BlendedByChris> well my linode says i can't resize the disk with lvm
[18:03] <BlendedByChris> just wondering if that's a xen thing or hyper-v thing or what
[18:09] <zul> Daviey: ping
[18:10] <Daviey> zul: ping is so outdated... i use spark-ping.. written in ruby and everything
[18:10] <zul> Daviey: heh so ok webob...
[18:11] <Daviey> $ spark-ping ubuntu.com
[18:11] <Daviey> ^C▅▆▂▄▅▆▇▃▄▅▆▃▄▅ 96.6 ms
[18:11] <zul> Response.request and Response.environ got deprectated in 1.1.1 which is in precise
[18:11] <hilarie> I've tried to read the man page I swear, I am grabbing stuff off of rsync remotely, to a server at my house, and when the ssh to my local server dies, the connection stops, how can I prevent that?
[18:12] <zul> and all of openstack uses it *everywhere*
[18:12] <zul> glance, keystone, nova
[18:12] <Daviey> hilarie: run it in screen
[18:12] <hilarie> there is no screen hooked up to the server at my house :(
[18:12] <zul> Daviey: and it got undepracted in 1.2b1 but with a slight variation
[18:12] <Daviey> zul: is support removed, or just noisy with depreccation warnings?
[18:13] <zul> its just noisy deprecation warnings
[18:13] <Daviey> hilarie: no, run "screen" command.. it gives you a persistence console
[18:13] <Daviey> hilarie: then reconnect later on with 'screen -r'
[18:13] <Daviey> zul: is it would just patching out the warnings?
[18:13] <Daviey> s/would/worth/
[18:14] <zul> Daviey: yeah might be
[18:14] <hilarie> Daiviey what you are saying is read the man page on screen :) got it
[18:14] <Daviey> zul: seems less destructive than a new upstream version at this stage.
[18:14] <zul> Daviey: my thoughts exactly
[18:14] <Daviey> zul: Might be worth raising an upstream bug, so we can track this for next release.
[18:14]  * ogra_ grins
[18:14] <ogra_> stop confusing the poor bot
[18:14] <ogra_> (it doesnt speak ruby apparently)
[18:14] <zul> Daviey: ack
[18:14] <Daviey> Although, 'undepreciated' concerns me.
[18:15] <Daviey> ogra_: heh
[18:15] <zul> Daviey: lemme pull up the commit
[18:17] <zul> Daviey: https://github.com/Pylons/webob/commit/627593bbcd4ab52adc7ee569001cdda91c670d5d
[18:20] <Daviey> zul: in that case, it makes total sense to remove the deprecation warnings.
[18:21] <zul> with that patch above?
[18:22] <Daviey> zul: do you know what upstream are QA'ing against?
[18:22] <zul> depends on the project
[18:22] <Daviey> zul: might be better just to create a patch which removes the dep warnings.. rather than morphing the characteristics
[18:22] <zul> Daviey: gotcha
[18:23] <zul> Daviey: but i think they are standardizing on 1.0.8
[18:38] <roaksoax> zul: do you have a good example of a package that handles upgrades (db migrations and stuff)
[18:39] <zul> not really off the top of my head
[18:40] <sidnei> anyone else having issues starting lxc containers in precise? (lxc-start: Permission denied - failed to mount 'proc' on '/usr/lib/lxc/root//proc')
[18:40] <Daviey> roaksoax: eucalyptus
[18:42] <Daviey> roaksoax: http://pb.daviey.com/Viat/
[18:42] <Daviey> obv. it should be using invoke-rc.d
[18:43] <roaksoax> Daviey: yeah I saw.. though in our case is not that helpful because we would likely have to update it with every single new bzr branch that we upload
[18:45] <Daviey> roaksoax: right.. well, it's safe to do a south migration on each update.
[18:45] <BlendedByChris> is us.archive.ubuntu.com usually pretty slow?
[18:45] <Daviey> roaksoax: if there is nothing to do, then it'll handle it ok
[18:46] <roaksoax> Daviey: right, postinst only handle configure|reconfigure
[18:46] <roaksoax> Daviey: but i'll figure it out
[18:47] <Daviey> roaksoax: every package gets configured, regardless if it is an upgrade or not :)
[18:47] <roaksoax> Daviey: so on first install, if the dbconfig-common question has been answered true, then it does syncdb and stuff, if its answered as NO, then it does not run syncdb, but on every uipgrade you need to run it
[18:47] <Daviey> roaksoax: $1 = "upgrade" btw
[18:48] <roaksoax> Daviey: http://bochs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/lxr/source/build/debian/postinst.ex
[18:48] <roaksoax> Daviey: postinst should not handle 'upgrade'
[18:48] <Daviey> ah, that is preinst.. crap
[18:49] <roaksoax> yep
[18:50] <Daviey> roaksoax: The other thing you can do, is run migrate on the upstart job?
[18:51] <Daviey> roaksoax: nova essentially runs migrate on each start.
[18:51] <roaksoax> Daviey: uhmm ok, I'll take a look at it
[18:52] <Daviey> roaksoax: But really, why not run migrations on each configure?
[18:53] <roaksoax> Daviey: migrations are run on each configure, the different is if you install for the first time, and the DB is not created by dbconfig-common, then it will fail and cause a install failure
[18:55] <Daviey> ah
[19:14] <BlendedByChris> any reason why hyper-v would be masively slow
[19:15] <hallyn> gary_poster: whatever happened with lxc-start-ephemeral vs. overlayfs?
[19:15] <hallyn> gary_poster: i was expecting to find aufs had been re-enabled, but it doesn't seem to be?
[19:17] <gary_poster> hallyn, hi.  I want to use overlayfs, and am trying to use it as long as I can.  My comment to the list was hot on the heels of finding another issue--that we have a workaround for and that Andy had a patch for last I looked.  aufs is my backup-plan--and a mediocre one at that, since we may indeed discover issues with it as well, because we have used overlayfs since January.  I'd like to see
[19:17] <gary_poster> an option in ephemeral to use aufs
[19:17] <gary_poster> it has not been a priority, and overlayfs hasn't bitten us lately
[19:18] <gary_poster> but I should get someone to do it, unless you want to, hallyn.
[19:19] <hallyn> gary_poster: well, if it's been working lately...  i just couldn't remember where we'd left that
[19:20] <hallyn> what was the thing that was failing again?
[19:20] <gary_poster> hallyn, the hard link of a 0444 file broke
[19:21] <gary_poster> chmod 444 I mean
[19:21] <gary_poster> hallyn, when's the freeze?  Has it already snuck up on me?  I know it is soon.
[19:22] <hallyn> not yet anyway
[19:22] <gary_poster> heh
[19:22] <hallyn> checking
[19:23] <hallyn> another freezer mar 22, though i don't think that's the last one
[19:23] <hallyn> jinkeys, i'd better get these other things in then
[19:23] <gary_poster> btw hallyn did you see bug 959352?
[19:23] <gary_poster> eh you probably triaged it
[19:23] <gary_poster> yeah
[19:23] <gary_poster> sorry :-)
[19:24] <hallyn> oh yeah haven't had a chance to reproduce that yet (the machine i was using was failing lxc-=start-ephemeral entirely so i couldn't reproduce to mark it confirmed yet)
[19:24] <hallyn> ok lemme get this lxc-shutdown thing wrapped up and then i'll look at ephemeral
[19:24] <gary_poster> cool tahnks hallyn
[19:25] <hallyn> gary_poster: I guess think it through, and if you think you want aufs re-enabled, pls file a bug today or tomorrow and i'll re-enable it
[19:25] <gary_poster> ack hallyn will do
[19:25] <hallyn> thanks - ttyl
[19:52] <gary_poster> hallyn, I finally got an answer about bzr + git + quilt, and it is not a particularly good one.  In sum: (1) there is no good bzr + git + quilt answer now, according to people who should know; (2) there is a nascent bzr + quilt answer that is in the works, which has been usable recently (though is not necessarily right now), and you could check with Jelmer Vernooij if you wanted to track that or learn more.
[19:53] <hallyn> gary_poster: perhaps this should be a tutorial/ahckfest at uds
[19:53] <gary_poster> (He's Canonical, on the bzr team, nick "jelmer")
[19:54] <gary_poster> hallyn, sounds very reasonable.  This sounds like the problem is affecting a decent number of people
[19:54] <hallyn> gary_poster: it just means i merge/sync by hand rather than being able to have bzr do it.  it'd be neat to have a better sol'n, but it's not really in the way
[19:54] <gary_poster> fair enough
[19:58] <adam_g> hallyn: you're the only hit on google for 'sbuild +"Only one build is permitted"'  any idea what that error is all about?
[19:58] <hallyn> can you point me to the hit?
[19:59] <hallyn> adam_g: are you by chance on xfs?
[19:59] <hallyn> (tbh i've not used sbuild in awhile...)
[19:59] <hallyn> (bad serge)
[19:59] <adam_g> hallyn: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/27/%23ubuntu-devel.txt  14:25
[20:00] <adam_g> hallyn: not much there, just wondering if you ever figured that out. im hitting it here for the first time
[20:00] <adam_g> after Ctrl-C'ing outta a build
[20:00] <hallyn> yeah found it.  i can't recall what caused that offhand
[20:00] <hallyn> oh
[20:00] <hallyn> maybe *.dsc globbed to > 1 file
[20:00] <hallyn> that's my guess
[20:00] <hallyn> since i prety quickly sounded sheepish
[20:00] <adam_g> hehe
[20:01] <hallyn> yeah that must've been it.
[20:01] <koolhead17> hi all
[20:02] <adam_g> zul: ping
[20:02] <zul> adam_g: pong
[20:03] <koolhead17> what is the url for build result for essex on precise?
[20:04] <koolhead17> and curious to know if build passes for Horizon
[20:04] <adam_g> zul: when is nova rc out? is it decided?
[20:04] <adam_g> koolhead17: jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com, though our CI stuff was moved to a new datacenter over the weekend and is currently offline
[20:05] <zul> adam_g: i thought it was today
[20:05] <zul> ttx: ^^^
[20:06] <koolhead17> adam_g, so the build for Horizon fails
[20:07] <zul> adam_g: bugger ill do an upload tonight
[20:08] <Daviey> hey, anyone fancy giving me a diff review?
[20:09] <koolhead17> zul, that was for me :P
[20:09] <adam_g> koolhead17:  in what way?
[20:10] <zul> Daviey: sure
[20:10] <adam_g> Daviey: review for what?
[20:10] <Daviey> http://pb.daviey.com/ScAq/
[20:10] <koolhead17> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/precise-openstack-essex-horizon-milestone/ adam_g
[20:10] <Daviey> dh python2
[20:10] <koolhead17> but it looks way old
[20:11] <adam_g> koolhead17: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20OpenStack%20Testing/job/precise-openstack-essex-horizon-trunk/  <- thats what you should be watching
[20:12] <zul> Daviey: looks ok
[20:12] <koolhead17> adam_g, ooh trunk
[20:14] <adam_g> Daviey: looks okay assuming d/control lists the correct deps?
[20:15] <Daviey> adam_g: $ debdiff python-setproctitle_1.0.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb python-setproctitle_1.0.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[20:15] <Daviey> File lists identical (after any substitutions)
[20:15] <Daviey> No differences were encountered between the control files
[20:17] <fidothe> hey tjere
[20:18] <fidothe> i just upgraded an 11.04 box to 11.10 and on restart I can no longer start my KVM guests
[20:18] <fidothe> the error is kvm_create_vm: Device or resource busy
[20:19] <fidothe> i can confirm that the relevant packages all seem to be there. virsh / virt-install are all there and at least seem functional. the problems start when i try and start a guest or create a new one
[20:30] <nOStahl> hey guys I just installed 11.04 server and its blank screen when I boot up
[20:30] <star314> Hi! I'm currently testing Ubuntu Server 12.04 Beta1. Anyone else here who can confirm the following shutdown problem? "halt" shuts the machine down, as it should be, but does not power off it. However, on the same machine running 10.04 it works.
[20:31] <star314> nOStahl: no text or cursor at all?
[20:32] <nOStahl> nadda
[20:32] <nOStahl> bios posts fine
[20:32] <star314> hmm
[20:32] <nOStahl> so I don't get a grub screen at all to press e to modify settings
[20:32] <star314> Do you see the grub boot menu?
[20:32] <star314> ah
[20:33] <star314> to slow
[20:33] <star314> :D
[20:33] <star314> nOStahl: Looks like something went wrong during the install procedure.
[20:33] <nOStahl> guess i'll try it all over again heh
[20:34] <nOStahl> its installed on a raid
[20:34] <star314> Maybe grub wasn't installed correctly?
[20:34] <star314> ahhh
[20:34] <star314> nOStahl: which type of RAID?
[20:35] <nOStahl> raid 1
[20:35] <nOStahl> it was a re-install over an 11.10 install
[20:35] <nOStahl> using the same raid array
[20:35] <nOStahl> think that might have messed things up
[20:35] <star314> k
[20:35] <star314> booting from a raid1 should be not a problem.
[20:36] <star314> nOStahl: How experienced are you with using Linux?
[20:37] <star314> nOStahl: Do you know how to handle a rescue system and chroot?
[20:37] <nOStahl> i've done it
[20:37] <star314> nOStahl: ah, ok
[20:37] <nOStahl> but I don't like to do it on what will be production install
[20:38] <nOStahl> it needs to work right from the start heh
[20:38] <star314> That's what I would try next
[20:38] <star314> Boot a rescue system, chroot, install grub to both disks of the RAID1.
[20:39] <star314> And hopefully everything works fine. :)
[20:40] <star314> nOStahl: oh, now I see. Maybe it was a typo. Did you mean 12.04 instead of 11.04?
[20:40] <sbeattie> SpamapS: can I assign bug 959683 to you?
[20:42] <nOStahl> I installed 11.04 instead of 11.10 that was on it
[20:43] <star314> nOStahl: What's the reason for the downgrade?
[20:48] <nOStahl> eucalyptus
[20:50] <nOStahl> setting up a little cloud here
[20:53] <ttx> adam_g: RC1 will be out when https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-rc1 has no bugs left
[20:53] <adam_g> ttx: thats what i thought
[20:53] <ttx> adam_g: almost there for nova
[20:54] <ttx> glance and keystone probably later this week
[20:55] <adam_g> ttx: thanks
[20:56] <SpamapS> sbeattie: sure!
[20:57] <adam_g> zul: do we need a FFE to add a new binary pkg to nova (nova-consoleauth)?
[20:59] <nOStahl_> Hrmm
[21:00] <zul> adam_g: shouldnt
[21:00] <zul> Daviey: ^^^
[21:04] <michael_tn> good day all, i'm looking for some help trying to generate a preseed file for U11.10 that will lvm/partition four disks
[21:04] <michael_tn> i can get preseed to work with a single disk easily
[21:07] <SpamapS> michael_tn: LVM on 4 disks is unsafe without mirroring, you know this, right?
[21:08] <michael_tn> i do
[21:08] <michael_tn> they are compute nodes
[21:08] <michael_tn> cluster nodes, if it fails, i can reimage
[21:09] <guntbert> SpamapS: why is it particularly unsafe with 4 disks?
[21:09] <SpamapS> guntbert: with more than 1 its unsafe
[21:09] <SpamapS> with 1 its unsafe actually :)
[21:09] <nOStahl> Agh there we go
[21:09] <nOStahl> Coluguy bounce setup huh
[21:10] <SpamapS> michael_tn: so its throw-away data. :) Ok.. just checking.. there's an example pre-seed for debian somewhere..
[21:10] <michael_tn> yes, no real data on them, will be running as nova-compute nodes
[21:10] <SpamapS> michael_tn: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt
[21:11] <nOStahl> I have raid1 and the installer is asking I'd it can install grub to the master boot record?
[21:11] <nOStahl> Yes or no?
[21:12] <xlyz> hi. just updated my oneiric lxc server and lxc clients network stopped working. any hint how to solve it?
[21:13] <michael_tn> SpamapS: i've looked at that but could not work out how to get partman to see more than one disk if i was not doing raid.
[21:14] <michael_tn> ok, if i do an install from media, the installer will leave a sort of proto preseed file around won't it?
[21:14] <michael_tn> i'm not really an ubuntu users, so i'm sort of struggling a bit here :-|
[21:15] <SpamapS> michael_tn: Hrm, I don't see partman in the debconf selections so maybe not
[21:16] <SpamapS> michael_tn: I know thats how I learned how to do it on RH systems ;)
[21:16] <michael_tn> i've done a fair bit of googling on this but could not find an example
[21:17] <SpamapS> michael_tn: it does seem rather complex doesn't it? :-P
[21:17] <michael_tn> yes, seems like something that would have been worked out
[21:17] <michael_tn> :-)
[21:18] <SpamapS> michael_tn: I'm sure it has, but people don't seem to be sharing
[21:18] <michael_tn> i do have a build of orchestra doing nice pxe installs though, its rather nice
[21:18] <SpamapS> michael_tn: part of the reason may be that you could just install on one disk, and then vgextend onto the others later
[21:19] <michael_tn> hmmm, yes, i might try that in a post install script
[21:43] <hallyn> stgraber: lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/precise/lxc/lxc-shutdownv2 has my new lxc-shutdown and per-container apparmor stuff rolled into one, tested and working.  If you'd like to take a look, pls do, else i think it's ready to push
[21:43] <hallyn> i think i'll step away from the laptop (after mail check) to clear my head and make sur ei'm not missing anything aobut why this is a bad idea
[21:48] <nOStahl> hey guys I'm having an issue, getting this error doing sudo apt-get upgrade  ( start: Job is already running: eucalyptus )
[21:48] <nOStahl> any ideas
[21:51] <orionsonofneptun> ahh
[21:51] <orionsonofneptun> hello
[21:52] <stgraber> hallyn: feel free to upload when you're ready. Foundations is having an installer sprint so my LXC team is quite limited until Thursday.
[21:53] <stgraber> hallyn: you may want to test booting a container with rootfs=<block device> and make sure that older versions of Ubuntu work fine with apparmor
[21:53] <stgraber> hallyn: let me copy/paste part of jjohansen's mail earlier today
[21:54] <stgraber> hallyn: forwarded, much easier like this
[21:54] <orionsonofneptun> ok ive got a question how can i use the command shell in the setup option on ubuntu server cd to  operate irc bot ive got a disk in a pc without hdd and a pc running ubuntu 11.10 desktop im wondering if i can use usb cable to store info on hdd in pc running ubuntu 11.10
[21:56] <JanC> what do you mean by "usb cable"?
[21:56] <orionsonofneptun> ive got a toshiba laptop with only optical drive and no hdd
[21:56] <orionsonofneptun> running ubuntu server os cd
[21:56] <orionsonofneptun> ive opened command prompt
[21:57] <orionsonofneptun> im going to use usb ports to tie it to other laptop running ubuntu 11.10
[21:57] <JanC> orionsonofneptun: if you have an USB-to-ethernet cable or something like that
[21:58] <orionsonofneptun> well im trying to figue how to use this to operate irc bot
[21:58] <JanC> a plain simple USB cable won't work, obviously
[21:58] <orionsonofneptun> ive got ethernet cable
[21:59] <orionsonofneptun> and ethernet ports on both macines
[21:59] <orionsonofneptun> why wont usb cable work
[22:00] <JanC> if you have ethernet, you can use NFS or Samba to access the other machine's storage
[22:00] <orionsonofneptun> how to use command prompt to
[22:00] <orionsonofneptun> set this thing up
[22:01] <JanC> orionsonofneptun: USB cable are host/device-based
[22:01] <orionsonofneptun> i dont understand janc
[22:01] <JanC> and most PCs only have "USB host ports"
[22:01] <orionsonofneptun> please explain further
[22:02] <JanC> do you understand client/server-architecture?
[22:02] <orionsonofneptun> kinda
[22:02] <orionsonofneptun> very little but im here to learn
[22:03] <JanC> USB has servers (hosts) & clients (devices)
[22:03] <hallyn> stgraber: older version of ubuntu = lucid containers on precise host with my lxc version?
[22:03] <orionsonofneptun> so server dont understand usb????
[22:03] <JanC> most PCs only have host ports
[22:04] <orionsonofneptun> hmm you can hokk external hdd
[22:04] <hallyn> stgraber: in other words, was your suggestion a general one, or specific to my proposed upload?
[22:04] <orionsonofneptun> hook external hdd so why cant server
[22:04] <JanC> orionsonofneptun: external HDD is a device/client, PC is a host/server
[22:04] <hallyn> if not specific to my upload, then i'll push now and test those tonight.  Otherwise, I'll hold off on pushing until i have a chance to test :)
[22:05] <JanC> if you have 2 PCs/laptops, they will both be "servers"
[22:05] <stgraber> hallyn: specific to the apparmor profile in general, not necessarily to your changes. Part of that e-mail from jjohansen look like I missed some entries in the apparmor profile that really should be fixed in the next upload
[22:05] <orionsonofneptun> i cant think now
[22:05] <hallyn> stgraber: cool, thanks.  i'll look at that tonight
[22:05] <hallyn> (and hold off on pushing)
[22:05] <hallyn> ttyl.  have a good sprint :)
[22:06] <JanC> orionsonofneptun: USB can not talk host-to-host (or server-to-server if you want)
[22:06] <orionsonofneptun> can ubuntu server use usb port
[22:07] <orionsonofneptun> if hdd info goes threw then why not
[22:07] <JanC> orionsonofneptun: this has nothing to do with Ubuntu, it's a hardware limitation of USB?
[22:08] <orionsonofneptun> so ubuntu server doesent limit use of usb port?????
[22:09] <JanC> of course not?
[22:09] <JanC> at least, not intentionally
[22:10] <JanC> (unless it would be a security risk or something?)
[22:10] <orionsonofneptun> ok im really lost here
[22:10] <orionsonofneptun> im trying
[22:10] <orionsonofneptun> to
[22:10] <orionsonofneptun> install ubuntu server
[22:11] <orionsonofneptun> is anyone able to tell me what to do
[22:11] <adac> I'm trying to remove an old kernel: http://pastebin.com/fTC1DvQr but I get an error. unfortunately my boot partition is full, so i cannot execute apt-get -f install. Any ideas?
[22:15] <orionsonofneptun> i cant mount cd-rom
[22:15] <orionsonofneptun> why???
[22:29] <orionsonofneptun> what is enlist system with ubuntu orchestra server
[22:29] <orionsonofneptun> option
[22:37] <orionsonofneptun> ok who wants to get me familiar with ubuntu server ????
[22:37] <orionsonofneptun> ??
[22:41] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[22:41] <ikonia> there is documentation there - please read it
[22:47] <orionsonofneptun> i can t read it
[22:48] <ikonia> why ?
[22:48] <orionsonofneptun> ive got wireless issues now
[22:48] <ikonia> you are clearly on the network as you are chatting
[22:48] <ikonia> read the documentation on the machine you are on now
[22:49] <orionsonofneptun> someone has included thier network withmine a big mistsake i dont know the first step in correcting
[22:49] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: read the documentation
[22:49] <orionsonofneptun> where
[22:49] <ikonia> I gave you the link
[22:50] <orionsonofneptun> oh ill try agian
[22:50] <orionsonofneptun> still i can t read it
[22:52] <Daviey> anyone fancy doig a pkg diff review?
[22:52] <Daviey> doing*
[22:53] <pabelanger> link?
[22:53] <Daviey> pabelanger: http://pb.daviey.com/FKQ2/
[22:56] <pabelanger> Daviey, shouldn't it be dh $@ --with python2
[22:58] <pabelanger> I also believe you might need X-Python-Version: all too
[22:58] <Daviey> pabelanger: good catch.. on this occasion seems ot was a copy/paste error.. but well noticed!
[22:58] <pabelanger> reading from
[22:58] <pabelanger> http://wiki.debian.org/Python/TransitionToDHPython2
[22:59] <Daviey> pabelanger: "XS-Python-Version is still supported, but X-Python-Version is preferred. It supports the same syntax, except current and all keywords are gone. If you don't know what the package's minimum required Python version is, don't add this field until a bug report informs you that foo doesn't work with an older Python version."
[22:59] <pabelanger> ya, just read that
[22:59] <ikonia> impressive spotting typo's in a diff
[22:59] <ikonia> good eye
[22:59] <pabelanger> Daviey, a side from that ship it
[23:00]  * Daviey ships.
[23:01] <Daviey> thanks pabelanger !
[23:01] <pabelanger> danke
[23:04] <ikonia> I know who to come to for checks now. That's pretty solid effort
[23:13] <zul> Daviey: you are missing the with python2
[23:14] <Daviey> zul: copy and paste error to the pastebin
[23:14] <Daviey> but, also - good catch :)
[23:14] <zul> Daviey: ah
[23:17] <Daviey> SpamapS: Are you trying to get python-central back into main? :)
[23:18] <SpamapS> Daviey: I miss its soft, soothing code
[23:18] <Daviey> SpamapS: heh, i guess you caught it?
[23:20] <SpamapS>   Uploading landscape-client_12.04-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[23:21] <SpamapS> Daviey: about 5 people caught it before you did.. none of whom were me. ;)
[23:30] <Daviey> SpamapS: heh