[11:29] <snap-l> G'morning
[14:21] <snap-l> So, how about this morning?
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> I forgot my headphones at home.
[14:22] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: ugh
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> I came up with a solution, but I don't think the building is tall enough to jump off and die
[14:22] <snap-l> don't forget them tomorrow. New OMC tomorrow. :)
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> \m/
[15:42] <rick_h> party
[15:42] <rick_h> will probably need you guys to handle CHC without me another week :(
[15:48] <Blazeix> man, too many more absences and we'll lose our python flavor
[15:48] <Blazeix> next time you show up we'll all be programming C# on mono on our macbooks.
[15:51] <brousch> Blazeix: that would be awesome
[15:57] <snap-l> rick_h: That bad, eh?
[16:15] <jrwren> lolz
[16:18] <rick_h> well you're all hacking on bookie anyway right? so you're doing a bunch of python :P
[16:34] <jrwren> i'm doing a bunch of python
[16:34] <jrwren> but not bookie.
[16:34] <jrwren> sorry, its not my passion.
[16:34] <jrwren> it works great as is.
[16:34] <rick_h> jrwren: boooo :P it's good practice :)
[16:34] <rick_h> jrwren: how goes the new gig?
[16:34] <jrwren> its great.
[16:34] <rick_h> awesome
[16:34] <jrwren> awesome environmen.t
[16:35] <rick_h> make sure to check out the great pycon vids
[16:35] <jrwren> they are 10yo startup, so they are trying to keep that startup vibe.
[16:35] <jrwren> snack wall
[16:35] <jrwren> soda
[16:35] <jrwren> pingpong
[16:35] <jrwren> mame cabinet
[16:35] <rick_h> hah,k cool
[16:35] <jrwren> all the amenities.
[16:35] <jrwren> yeah, i'll watch pycon vids.
[16:53] <tjagoda> Ahoy
[16:57] <snap-l> rick_h: Oh Christ, you're on Steroids again?
[16:57] <snap-l> I hope nobody does anything at work. :)
[16:58] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, I've got the yummy fully medicated head going on with the raging roids
[16:58] <rick_h> why I think I'll bow out of CHC even thuogh I might feel beter by wed night
[17:06] <brousch> jrwren: there is also a conference just for django: djangocon. they have gob of videos too
[17:07] <snap-l> brousch: All anyone really wants from Djangocon videos are the admin screen.
[17:07] <brousch> actually only about half of the videos are django-specific
[17:08] <rick_h> yea, it's actually got some ok things in there
[17:08] <brousch> the other half are general python and web good stuff
[17:08]  * snap-l thinks up more Django harassment
[17:08] <brousch> they always have at least 1 why django sucks talk
[17:09] <rick_h> they invited chris to do the annual "i hate django" talk, but he declined saying he loves django :P
[17:09] <snap-l> WEll, didn't they invite Mark Ramm on e year to give that talk?
[17:09] <rick_h> yea, he's given it before
[17:09] <brousch> nice
[18:14] <jrwren> rick_h: where do you fall in the "star imports are bad" argument?
[18:15] <rick_h> very bad
[18:15] <rick_h> explicit > implicit
[18:15] <jrwren> from module import * <-- i'm i removed some of these from a module on friday in favor of specifying each name specifically
[18:15] <jrwren> cool.
[18:15] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/__init__.py
[18:16] <jrwren> rick_h's approval is my gauge for if i'm doing it right
[18:16] <jrwren> holy page of imports rick_h !
[18:17] <rick_h> one import per line, sorted, and you can easily find out where any keyword/class comes from
[18:22] <brousch> rick_h++
[18:30] <jrwren> i did the from module import name1,\\nname2,\\nname3
[18:30] <jrwren> and sorted?  fuk that, unless a tool will rearange for me.
[18:30] <jrwren> :p
[18:31] <rick_h> jrwren: :!sort
[18:31] <rick_h> well highlight first
[18:31] <brousch> i sort them if i notice they are jumbled
[18:31] <jrwren> good call.
[18:31] <jrwren> ty
[18:31] <rick_h> and split by stdlib import x, then from x import stuff, then your own local imports
[18:31] <brousch> rick_h must have lernt me that early on
[18:32] <snap-l> I just gave our iso auditor a copy of 11.10
[18:32] <rick_h> it's pretty standard pep8 stuff I think
[18:32] <rick_h> hah, nice!
[18:32] <rick_h> did you pass?
[18:32] <jrwren> i'll bet if you wrote C you would decl your vars at the top, k&r style.
[18:32] <rick_h> I do that in my JS, jslint style
[18:32] <jrwren> maybe someday I'll learn
[18:32] <brousch> snap-l: do they do more than md5 it?
[18:33] <snap-l> rick_h: Other than sounding like Porky Pig when asked what I think the quality policy is (from memory) I think I passed
[18:34] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/static/js/bookie/view.js#L1205
[18:35] <jrwren> sometimes i don't know how i lived w/out byobu
[18:35] <jrwren> the bw monitor alone is life changing
[18:38] <rick_h> bw monitor?
[18:45] <jrwren> the status line in byobu shows me outgoing and incoming data rates for my interface
[18:51] <rick_h> ah