[06:57] <Kilos> morning all
[06:57] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:57]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:58] <Kilos> lo nuvolari hoe gaan dit
[07:01] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:02] <Vince-0> surp durp
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:03] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:09] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:09] <Vince-0> Hi
[08:36] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday superfly sdehaan 
[08:48] <maiatoday> hey Kilos
[09:56] <Symmetria> sup
[11:21] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[11:21]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:24] <superfly> hi Kilos
[11:25] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[11:26] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[11:26] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:28] <Kilos> xubuntu is kinda doff. pidgin sound works but no other sound
[11:31] <Kilos> and i unmuted everything i can find
[13:17] <inetpro_> eish!
[13:17] <inetpro> that is out of line!
[13:41] <nlsthzn> ?!
[16:41] <kbmonkey> hello :)
[16:41] <Kilos> helli kbmonkey 
[16:42] <kbmonkey> how are you sir?
[16:42] <Kilos> good ty. just kinda mad at xubuntu
[16:43] <Kilos> and you?
[16:44] <kbmonkey> i got an ill. sore throat. its strange, haven't been ill in months!
[16:44] <kbmonkey> what is xubuntu doing to your pc?
[16:45] <Kilos> stupid thing, after sudo apt-get update synaptic downloaded stuff that i had copied to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:45] <Kilos> you can get to archives 2 ways on xubuntu
[16:45] <Kilos> grrr
[16:46] <Kilos> one had all packages in and other one only partial of 2m
[16:46] <kbmonkey> you can? maybe the archives were updated since you last got them
[16:46] <Kilos> nope installed pidgin and noted the packages as they installed
[16:47] <kbmonkey> so does xubuntu and ubuntu share the saem repo...?
[16:48] <Kilos> yes
[16:49] <Kilos> but i fully installed xubuntu when 11.04 came out and saved those packages as well
[16:49] <Kilos> there is something apt-get isnt doing in synaptic and update manager
[16:50] <Kilos> maybe theres a broken pipe tween them
[16:50] <Kilos> hee hee
[16:51] <Kilos> and the stupid shutdown button in top panel right reboots everytime instead of shutdown
[16:52] <Kilos> but the other way works still
[16:52] <kbmonkey> wow. sounds like you have your work cut out for you ;)
[16:56] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[16:56] <magespawn> Evening all
[16:56] <magespawn> Hi Kilos
[16:56] <Kilos> and it will take a while to get used to bottom panel disappearing and what does what
[16:58] <kbmonkey> hi there
[16:59] <magespawn> Hi kbmonkey
[16:59] <magespawn> Ai the meeting on tonight
[17:00] <Kilos> ya in 30 mins
[17:00] <kbmonkey> wana start early? ;P
[17:00] <Kilos> still gotta eat
[17:02] <magespawn> Thought is was 19:00
[17:04] <Kilos> oh my i thought 19.30
[17:04] <Kilos> sigh
[17:05] <magespawn> My google calender beeped at me no worries
[17:05] <Kilos> lol i go try eat fast
[17:05] <kbmonkey> i'd love to climb into bed, my head has a cold.
[17:06] <magespawn> I see I have the alarm set half an hour before the start
[17:06] <kbmonkey> yes 19h30 is the clock :]
[17:06] <magespawn> Been up since 04:15, and the sun caught me this afternoon
[17:07] <magespawn> So a bit sonked
[17:08] <magespawn> Or is that zonked
[17:08] <magespawn> Either way feel a bit like a steam roller got me
[17:10] <kbmonkey> that makes two of us ;) he he
[17:19] <Guest89898> nick queery
[17:19] <Guest89898> oops
[17:20] <queery1985> is the meeting still busy
[17:20] <Kilos> not started yet
[17:21] <queery1985> oh oops what time does is start
[17:21] <Kilos> 9 mins
[17:21] <queery1985> ag damn ok so im early not late
[17:21] <Kilos> lol
[17:21] <queery1985> Maaz, coffee on
[17:21]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[17:21] <queery1985> mazz coffee for all
[17:21] <Kilos>   you gotta /nick
[17:21] <queery1985> maaz coffee for all
[17:21] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[17:22] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[17:22] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[17:22] <queery1985> maaz seen drubin
[17:22] <Maaz> queery1985: drubin was last seen 28 days, 40 minutes and 16 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-02-20 08:42:11 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-03-16 17:06:20 PDT
[17:22] <queery1985> omw
[17:22] <queery1985> brb
[17:23] <superfly> flippin Afrihost... Go to Axxess, and I have Internet in 5 minutes
[17:25] <nuvolari> :O I made it!
[17:25] <kbmonkey> Maaz: coffee please
[17:25] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure
[17:25] <nuvolari> am I late?
[17:25] <maiatoday> not yet
[17:25] <Kilos> no nuvolari 
[17:25] <nuvolari> hey apie!
[17:25] <nuvolari> and oom Kilos and superfly 
[17:25] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery1985, Kilos and kbmonkey!
[17:25] <kbmonkey> hi nuvolari queery1985 Maaz 
[17:25] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[17:25] <Maaz> nuvolari: There isn't a pot on
[17:25] <superfly> hi Kilos, nuvolari, kbmonkey
[17:25] <kbmonkey> Maaz: med lemon please!
[17:25] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Go get it yourself!
[17:25] <superfly> and maiatoday
[17:25] <queery1985> hi
[17:26] <queery1985> maaz ty
[17:26] <Maaz> You are welcome queery1985
[17:26] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee on
[17:26]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:26] <nuvolari> oh, is bytjie here?
[17:26] <maiatoday> yip
[17:26] <nuvolari> o/ maiatoday 
[17:26] <maiatoday> hi nuvolari 
[17:27] <maiatoday> thesis is in, so I have 6 weeks before corrections, enough time to have a release party
[17:27] <kbmonkey> we have our agenda here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/379/detail/
[17:27] <kbmonkey> that is good news maiatoday :)
[17:27] <Kilos> good luck maiatoday but we know it will be good
[17:28] <magespawn> Wow and suddenly there were people
[17:28] <maiatoday> ty Kilos 
[17:28] <queery1985> so happy for you!!
[17:28] <queery1985> im graduating the 28th
[17:29] <maiatoday> yay queery1985! 
[17:29] <Kilos> yay queery1985 well done
[17:29] <queery1985> :-D
[17:29] <kbmonkey> cool! :D
[17:29] <queery1985> ty oom Kilos 
[17:29] <magespawn> maiatoday what is the thesis topic?
[17:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for nuvolari!
[17:30] <maiatoday> in non academic speak, looking at software dev from an Agile perspective, when you are making artwork that is software based
[17:31] <magespawn> Sounds cool
[17:31] <maiatoday> :)
[17:31] <kbmonkey> digital mediums :D
[17:31] <maiatoday> it is in the art department, but I also had an engineering supervisor
[17:31] <maiatoday> yeah digital mediums
[17:31] <nuvolari>  Maaz: thanks you kind bot
[17:31] <Maaz> no worries, nuvolari
[17:32] <maiatoday> time to start yet?
[17:32] <magespawn> When i hear thesis I tend to think history is such
[17:32] <kbmonkey> been a while nuvolari! 
[17:32] <kbmonkey> yes we can start. methinks.
[17:32] <nuvolari> ye kbmonkey :-/ been a while
[17:32] <nuvolari> are you around here yet?
[17:33] <kbmonkey> not yet, i'll make plans for a release party.
[17:33] <kbmonkey> Maaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting
[17:33]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:33] <maiatoday> Maaz I am Maia Grotepass
[17:33] <Maaz> maiatoday: Yessir
[17:33] <kbmonkey> our agenda can be found at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/379/detail/
[17:34] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames
[17:34] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure
[17:34] <kbmonkey> Maaz: I am Wesley Werner
[17:34] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure
[17:34] <queery1985> maaz i am Dewald
[17:34] <Maaz> queery1985: Sure
[17:34] <Kilos> Maaz, i am miles sharpe
[17:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[17:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: I'm Johan Mynhardt
[17:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: Huh?
[17:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[17:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: Yessir
[17:34] <Kilos> lol
[17:34] <maiatoday> picky bot
[17:34] <nuvolari> ya lol
[17:34] <kbmonkey> he was a parrot in his past incarnation
[17:34] <magespawn> No contractions
[17:35] <maiatoday> contractionless bot
[17:35] <queery1985> maaz botsnack
[17:35] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[17:35] <kbmonkey> okay ^.^
[17:35] <kbmonkey> Maaz: topic Review previous minutes
[17:35] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review previous minutes
[17:35] <kbmonkey> I went through and summarized our minutes
[17:36] <kbmonkey> Looking for people to email feedback about the Global Jam
[17:36] <maiatoday> did we have one?
[17:36] <kbmonkey> So we can put it up on our wiki, include it in th emonthly report
[17:36] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[17:36] <Maaz> superfly: Yessir
[17:37] <kbmonkey> Well for anybody who did participate in any way
[17:37] <kbmonkey> did anybody here do any Global Jamming?
[17:37] <nuvolari> nope :-/
[17:37]  * kbmonkey did not. shuffles feet
[17:38]  * maiatoday did not, stares at the ceiling
[17:38] <magespawn> No
[17:38] <superfly> kbmonkey: no, tumbleweed was talking about it, but he didn't have the time to actually organise anything, afaik
[17:38] <superfly> iirc
[17:38] <kbmonkey> sjoe, okay. Next item :]
[17:39] <nuvolari> maybe we should apply for DST in ZA. an extra hour now and then can come in handy
[17:39] <magespawn> I think everyone has been fairly busy
[17:39] <kbmonkey> Indeed!
[17:39] <magespawn> DST?
[17:39] <nuvolari> magespawn: daylight savings time
[17:39] <kbmonkey> nah, I'd prefer using standard universal swatch time
[17:39] <nuvolari> I don't know if they loose or win time
[17:40] <magespawn> Duh. Lol
[17:40] <kbmonkey> Ubuntu Experience: Send in your stories!
[17:40] <kbmonkey> A reminder, for all and new friends, to email in your Ubuntu experience stories to the mailing list
[17:41] <magespawn> Anything specific?
[17:41] <kbmonkey> Trying to build awareness, so your stories count, even more than experienced users
[17:41] <maiatoday> I have a one-liner: "android dev is WAY quicker and more stable on ubuntu"
[17:42] <kbmonkey> Nothing specifc magespawn, more like if you want to share :)
[17:42] <nuvolari> ++ maiatoday 
[17:42] <kbmonkey> oh really maiatoday? now that I have a droid, I'd love to develop for it
[17:42] <nuvolari> whoot! you got one kbmonkey ?
[17:42] <kbmonkey> And last on our previous minutes: Ordering Ubuntu CD's.
[17:42] <nuvolari> what did you get?
[17:43] <maiatoday> I'll take that action
[17:43] <kbmonkey> You got this covered maiatoday, you said in the email
[17:43] <kbmonkey> :D thank you
[17:43] <maiatoday> I spoke to drubin about the CDS and we'll sort it between the two of us
[17:43] <kbmonkey> about 2 weeks ago nuvolari 
[17:43] <magespawn> Perhaps another learning channel for that, kbmonkey?
[17:43] <queery1985> we need 64 bit versions
[17:43] <nuvolari> meh. I still have some CD's left. but they're old. I'm not going to acquire CD's this time
[17:44] <maiatoday> queery1985: I agree re 64bit but I don't know if they ship those
[17:44] <magespawn> I can down load the ISO if people need them.
[17:44] <kbmonkey> I got all my CD's out by shifting them into botiques and shops of friends
[17:44] <queery1985> oh
[17:44] <kbmonkey> worked well
[17:44] <kbmonkey> I wrote the ubuntu-za URL on every CD too
[17:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz: topic Ubuntu Hours
[17:44] <Maaz> Current Topic: Ubuntu Hours
[17:45] <queery1985> i want to org one in JHB soon
[17:45] <queery1985> just don'tknow where yet
[17:45] <maiatoday> Hmmm I'll try to do one in Stellenbosch again too
[17:46] <Kilos> nuvolari, what cds you got?
[17:46] <Kilos> xubuntu 11.10 alternate?
[17:46] <magespawn> If there is one in Durban iwould likevto trybto make it
[17:46] <nuvolari> Kilos: 11.04 I think oom
[17:46] <nuvolari> and not xubuntu :-/
[17:46] <kbmonkey> nuvolari: I plan to go to durbs sometime in the near future. Meet up for an Hour or a release party
[17:46] <nuvolari> magespawn: you can join me and kbmonkey 
[17:46] <kbmonkey> I think Kilos had enough of xubuntu ;)
[17:47] <Kilos> lol
[17:47] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I vote for a meet at M&B again?
[17:47] <magespawn> That would rock.
[17:47] <Kilos> no i gotta fix it kbmonkey because pc cant do unity
[17:47] <kbmonkey> M&B sounds great!
[17:47] <nuvolari> oh wait, magespawn can you make it to gateway?
[17:48] <kbmonkey> I can drive through to Balito if need be. The scenic drive will do me good
[17:48] <Kilos> just remember to set your parties for after cds ahve arrived
[17:48] <magespawn> Depends on the dates, i live in hluhluwe so has to be on a trip tovdurbs
[17:49]  * nuvolari checks googlemaps
[17:49] <maiatoday> kbmonkey, I'll take the monthly reports again for a while
[17:49] <maiatoday> who was doing them, I can liase and we can do it together
[17:49] <magespawn> I need to come down sometime soon ish
[17:50] <Kilos> magespawn, i did that trip every weekend for about a year except when demoina killed the bridges
[17:50] <nuvolari> magespawn: south of durbs?
[17:50] <magespawn> Way north.
[17:50] <queery1985> what is the release date, im thinking of org the ubuntu hour only after that
[17:50] <Kilos> maiatoday, wb
[17:50] <kbmonkey> I did them maiatoday, I can carry on but some help would be very well appreciated
[17:50] <Kilos> we missed you
[17:50] <maiatoday> ok, I'll take them for a while
[17:51] <maiatoday> thanks for doing them kbmonkey 
[17:51] <maiatoday> They aren't hard to do, just have to remember to do them
[17:51] <magespawn> kbmonkey i meant to help but seemed to forget all the time, sorry about that
[17:51] <queery1985> +20 karma for kbmonkey 
[17:51] <nuvolari> oh wow, it's far!
[17:51] <nuvolari> magespawn: will ballito be better for you?
[17:51] <kbmonkey> nuvolari: magespawn we will plan a meet via email :)
[17:52] <nuvolari> ok
[17:52] <magespawn> Okay I have to come to get stock for the shop sometime next or month after
[17:52] <Tonberry> why do i suspect i missed a meeting
[17:53] <maiatoday> are missing :)
[17:53] <maiatoday> but you are here now
[17:53] <kbmonkey> wow that is up by st Lucia magespawn
[17:53] <nuvolari> which makes it all good
[17:53] <Kilos> you just late Tonberry but forgiven if you sign in
[17:53] <maiatoday> kbmonkey:  are there more items from the minutes?
[17:53]  * kbmonkey gives Tonberry and maiatoday a cookie
[17:54] <Tonberry> Maaz i am Hendrik van Wyk
[17:54] <Maaz> Tonberry: Righto
[17:54] <magespawn> About  half an hour past that turn
[17:54] <kbmonkey> Maaz: topic
[17:54] <Maaz> kbmonkey: What?
[17:54] <kbmonkey> we are talking about Ubuntu Hours
[17:54] <kbmonkey> but next topic is due now :)
[17:54] <kbmonkey> we got side-tracked
[17:54] <queery1985> well some of us are
[17:54] <queery1985> hehe
[17:55] <kbmonkey> Maaz: topic Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April)
[17:55] <Maaz> Current Topic: Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April)
[17:55] <kbmonkey> To remind us all of the upcoming release...
[17:55] <maiatoday> What do people wanna do? where shall we have one?
[17:56] <kbmonkey> Start thinking about ideas
[17:56] <maiatoday> Tonberry: shall we organise one for Stellenbosch
[17:56] <Tonberry> i think so
[17:56] <maiatoday> or do people wanna go thru to cape town
[17:56] <kbmonkey> I'd like to ride on a giant float in the shape of a Penguin
[17:56] <kbmonkey> ... ideally
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:56] <kbmonkey> or Pangolin...
[17:57] <Tonberry> 26 april is a thursday?
[17:57] <kbmonkey> yes
[17:57] <maiatoday> yes it seems, so will we have it 28 then
[17:57] <queery1985> would have to hold it on the 28th then
[17:58] <queery1985> what she said
[17:58] <Tonberry> kde is telling me the 27th is a holiday
[17:58] <Kilos> if the cds have arrived
[17:59] <kbmonkey> that would be handy, to have a holiday weekend
[17:59] <maiatoday> yeah freedom day, then the tuesday after is workers day
[17:59] <magespawn> Do the cd have
[17:59] <kbmonkey> indeed the extra day for ubuntu would be auspicious! 
[17:59] <maiatoday> this means everybody will be going away
[17:59] <queery1985> is there a mirror at wits or UJ we can hack into?
[18:00] <maiatoday> queery1985: chat to me after, maybe there is someone at wits I know
[18:00] <Tonberry> why do i suspect that i will be summoned home that weekend...
[18:00] <queery1985> ok awesome
[18:00] <kbmonkey> Maaz: agreed Precise Pangolin party over the weekend of 27th April (freedom day) 
[18:00] <Maaz> Agreed: Precise Pangolin party over the weekend of 27th April (freedom day)
[18:00] <maiatoday> Hmm I think my family might also teleport me elsewhere
[18:00] <magespawn> Do the CDs have to. be   
[18:00] <kbmonkey> *bzzz* energize
[18:01] <queery1985> I just don't know how to do the "offline" repo's
[18:01] <kbmonkey> no we do not need to have the CD's for a release party
[18:01] <maiatoday> Tonberry should we postpone to the weekend after the long weekend?
[18:01] <queery1985> and don't have the resources to get them all
[18:01] <Tonberry> yes
[18:01] <magespawn> Do the cd have to be canonical ones? Damn that wa hard to get out.
[18:01] <Tonberry> way too many people go home on those loooong weekends
[18:01] <kbmonkey> okay you folks who might go away, cnofirm that and we can shift the release party onwards :)
[18:02] <Kilos> lol no but they look better magespawn 
[18:02] <magespawn> Keyboard was nit playing nice
[18:02] <kbmonkey> ^ ha ha ha
[18:02] <Kilos> unless covers get printed on downloaded ones
[18:02] <magespawn> Right could also inkjet print some.
[18:02] <kbmonkey> for install fests we will need them :]
[18:03] <kbmonkey> for release parties, cake will do nicely!
[18:03] <queery1985> always
[18:03] <maiatoday> kbmonkey: I think it makes sense to move the relase party on by a week because else there won't be anyone around
[18:03] <queery1985> need to find a spar neer me that does that
[18:03] <Kilos> sigh younguns always thinking of their tummies
[18:03] <queery1985> we would I think
[18:04] <maiatoday> we don't all have to have a release party at the same time
[18:04] <kbmonkey> Maaz: agreed Move the release party on a week after the public holiday
[18:04] <Maaz> Agreed: Move the release party on a week after the public holiday
[18:04] <kbmonkey> no we don't need to, so if there are enough who want to have 2 parties...
[18:04] <kbmonkey> more cake for us
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:04] <queery1985> haha
[18:04] <Kilos> brats
[18:05] <maiatoday> I was kinda hoping people in durban and in jo'burg would have one as well
[18:05] <kbmonkey> Kilos: we will have to snailmail you some cookies
[18:05] <Kilos> lol
[18:05] <kbmonkey> well I'm keen to have one in Durban. Will definitely plan with nuvolari and magespawn ITR
[18:06] <Kilos> i will bake my own chilli bites
[18:06] <queery1985> Ill try and have one in JHB just need a geek to help set up the Repo's
[18:06] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, when can we come visit?
[18:06] <kbmonkey> remember: there are also install fests to be had!
[18:06]  * nuvolari craves chillibites
[18:06] <Kilos> there are some guys there queery1985 that did the last ones at irene club
[18:06] <maiatoday> queery1985: I'll mail you the contact of the people who did the release parties there before
[18:06] <Kilos> check on the lists
[18:06]  * maiatoday drools at the thought of chillibites
[18:06] <kbmonkey> yes Kilos! I want some chilli bites. I'll bring you some Mangos
[18:07] <Kilos> nuvolari, anytime
[18:07] <queery1985> thanx maiatoday 
[18:07] <kbmonkey> that went well
[18:07] <kbmonkey> any closing words?
[18:08] <magespawn> Stardates.co.za
[18:08] <kbmonkey> ??
[18:08] <queery1985> what>
[18:08] <queery1985> ??
[18:08] <magespawn> But the dates up there for parties etc.
[18:08] <magespawn> Put
[18:08] <queery1985> oh
[18:08] <kbmonkey> Maaz: end meeting
[18:08] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:08] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-03-19-17-33-30.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-03-19-17-33-30.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-03-19-17-33-30.html
[18:09] <maiatoday> thanks kbmonkey 
[18:09] <Kilos> wow that was quick
[18:09] <kbmonkey> okay Thank all you geeks
[18:09] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey maiatoday 
[18:09] <Kilos> and others
[18:09] <queery1985> thanx guys
[18:09] <queery1985> chat soon
[18:09] <kbmonkey> yes Kilos we are efficient hey
[18:09] <Kilos> looks like kbmonkey 
[18:09] <Kilos> better than last one
[18:09] <magespawn> Lot more than some of the other meetings I go to
[18:09] <queery1985> maaz bye
[18:09] <Maaz> queery1985: Bye
[18:09] <Kilos> but that was 3 months all in one
[18:09] <maiatoday> vetgesmeerde blits
[18:10] <Kilos> toods queery1985 
[18:10] <queery1985> maiatoday, ek is die 28st in die bos, weet nie hoe baie tyd ek gaan he nie maar dalk kan ons 'n coffee org
[18:10] <kbmonkey> sorry, Im feeling very ill and have no patience for dawdeling .
[18:10] <queery1985> bye oom kilos
[18:10] <Kilos> and the fly didnt say anything tonight
[18:10] <kbmonkey> the fly is likely very busy, doing the good work (tm) :D
[18:11] <Kilos> eish kbmonkey 
[18:11] <maiatoday> hope you feel better soon kbmonkey 
[18:11] <Kilos> flu/
[18:11] <Kilos> ?
[18:11]  * magespawn send kbmonkey a med lemon
[18:11] <Kilos> hehe
[18:11] <kbmonkey> awe thanks Maaz maiatoday 
[18:11] <magespawn> Lol
[18:11] <kbmonkey> may be flu, cant say. may be new meds im on. time will tell :)
[18:12] <Kilos> whew
[18:12] <kbmonkey> cool we got some nice agenda items done
[18:13] <magespawn> Kbmonkey what droid did you get?
[18:13] <kbmonkey> samsung galaxy magespawn 
[18:13] <maiatoday> kbmonkey it's super easy to get the droid dev stuff going, just need some bandwidth
[18:14] <maiatoday> eclipse and the android sdk and plugins
[18:14] <kbmonkey> funny how they advertise it as latest, yet its an old model everywhere else
[18:14] <magespawn> I have HTC flyer, so would also like to learn
[18:14]  * kbmonkey wish he took HTC
[18:14] <nuvolari> hmm. which htc kbmonkey ?
[18:14] <maiatoday> if you go to developer.android.com and follow the install steps it's pretty straightforward
[18:15] <nuvolari> I'm still indecicive
[18:15] <kbmonkey> ill make a plan to get bandwidth, I'd love to get that going
[18:15] <nuvolari> *indicisive
[18:15] <magespawn> The new one is pretty cool evo one or something like that.
[18:15] <kbmonkey> not sure nuvolari. will have to do serious research
[18:15] <maiatoday> it's a good skill to have
[18:16] <kbmonkey> indeed, most online jobs like at elance ask for mobile development
[18:16] <magespawn> Yup trying to broaden my skills am learning python at the moment
[18:16] <Kilos> does xubuntu come from somewhere else
[18:16] <Kilos> not canaonical
[18:16] <maiatoday> does anyone here do J2ME or blackberry dev?
[18:16] <Kilos> canonical either
[18:17] <nuvolari> maiatoday: stay away
[18:17] <nuvolari> as far as you can
[18:17] <nuvolari> it's horrific
[18:17] <magespawn> Hah. Lol nuvolari.
[18:17] <maiatoday> no I don't wanna do bb or j2me, I'm just looking for someone who can
[18:17] <magespawn> Experience speaks
[18:18] <nuvolari> if you find someone who can, label that person a masochist
[18:18] <superfly> maiatoday: it sounds like nuvolari is your man :-P
[18:18] <Kilos> haha
[18:18] <maiatoday> where were you based again nuvolari? and would you be a masochist again?
[18:19] <nuvolari> to make matters worse, you can't do anything without windows
[18:19] <nuvolari> maiatoday: ballito
[18:19] <nuvolari> I'm not a masochist
[18:19] <nuvolari> I just tried to get a web icon working
[18:19] <maiatoday> yeah the windows thing
[18:19] <nuvolari> and that was no easy task
[18:19] <Kilos> maiatoday, post it with the cd's
[18:23] <magespawn> Ma
[18:24] <Kilos> right i go play with xubuntu some. if i dont come online sleep tight all. 
[18:24] <nuvolari> lekker slaap oom Kilos 
[18:24] <Kilos> ty for the cool meet
[18:24] <magespawn> maiatoday is there anothe ide besides eclipse?
[18:24] <nuvolari> ya, thank you too oom!
[18:24] <magespawn> Later Kilos
[18:24] <Kilos> nag nuvolari , miskien sien ek jul later
[18:24] <nuvolari> magespawn: intellij
[18:24] <nuvolari> (community edition is perfect for android dev)
[18:24] <maiatoday> magespawn: you can build with ant so you can use vim
[18:25] <maiatoday> :P
[18:25] <magespawn> Will check it tomorrow.
[18:26] <maiatoday> magespawn: I have only used eclipse
[18:26] <nuvolari> eclipse became the "jack of all trades, master of none" of the IDE world :P
[18:26] <nuvolari> but if that's the only thing you've ever used, it's good enough
[18:26] <maiatoday> but you can do most things from the command line so you could hook another ide up
[18:26] <magespawn> I had a look at but was a bit heavy for the machine I had then
[18:26] <superfly> yay! finally I have uncapped!
[18:27]  * nuvolari is envious
[18:27] <magespawn> FTW
[18:28] <nuvolari> oh my word! today was horrible at the office. I nearly fell asleep
[18:28] <nuvolari> I need my sunday afternoon nap
[18:28] <magespawn> Have been using aptana for python on my windows machine
[18:29] <magespawn> And for html 
[18:29] <magespawn> On Monday?
[18:29] <nuvolari> lol
[18:29] <nuvolari> magespawn: I needed it yesterday, hence the tiredness today
[18:29] <maiatoday> http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/projects/projects-cmdline.html
[18:30] <magespawn> Hah
[18:30] <maiatoday> magespawn: ^^
[18:30] <magespawn> Going
[18:30] <nuvolari> anyone watched Jeremiah?
[18:31] <magespawn> Ty maiatoday
[18:32] <maiatoday> ok ubuntu people and Maaz, I'll see you all later
[18:34] <magespawn> I am aslo out of here, night all.
[18:35] <Symmetria> ullo
[18:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:46]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:48] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:48] <Kilos> hi superfly xubuntu makes me thirsty
[18:49] <superfly> Kilos: is it that bad?
[18:49] <Kilos> does stupid things superfly like drag and drop on desktop says n
[18:49] <Kilos> hasnt gotr backends to do that
[18:50] <Kilos> and no beeps on xchat
[18:50] <Kilos> but pidgin and vlc sound works
[18:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:55] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:55] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:56] <Kilos> and the synaptic doesnt show size of packages
[18:57] <superfly> Kilos: I'm sure that's just a setting
[18:58] <Kilos> most likely but they arent as easy to find as ubuntu. but keeping me outa mischief for a while
[18:58] <Kilos> it also hangs a coupla times a day
[19:00] <Kilos> the alerts in xchat i have ticked same as on ubuntu but there must be some other bit of software needed still
[19:01] <Kilos> hooks or something
[19:01] <superfly> Kilos: check if "pulseaudio" is installed, and check in xchat what sound system it is set to use
[19:02] <Kilos> i have told xchat to use alsa as did i with pidgin
[19:02] <Kilos> also thought it was pulse
[19:03] <Kilos> there is also no sound on bootup but so far i havent found the startup options
[19:09] <Kilos> but ill get it going to my prefs sooner or later. quite a challenge. sleep tight superfly . 
[19:43] <kbmonkey> that was a long outage :/
[19:49] <superfly> ohi kbmonkey
[19:51] <kbmonkey> yes sir