[06:57] morning all [06:57] Maaz, coffee on [06:57] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:58] lo nuvolari hoe gaan dit [07:01] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:02] surp durp [07:03] Maaz, ty [07:03] You are welcome Kilos [07:09] hi Vince-0 [07:09] Hi [08:36] hiya maiatoday superfly sdehaan [08:48] hey Kilos [09:56] sup [11:21] Maaz, coffee on [11:21] * Maaz puts the kettle on [11:24] hi Kilos [11:25] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [11:26] Maaz, ty [11:26] You are welcome Kilos [11:28] xubuntu is kinda doff. pidgin sound works but no other sound [11:31] and i unmuted everything i can find [13:17] eish! === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [13:17] that is out of line! [13:41] ?! [16:41] hello :) [16:41] helli kbmonkey [16:42] how are you sir? [16:42] good ty. just kinda mad at xubuntu [16:43] and you? [16:44] i got an ill. sore throat. its strange, haven't been ill in months! [16:44] what is xubuntu doing to your pc? [16:45] stupid thing, after sudo apt-get update synaptic downloaded stuff that i had copied to /var/cache/apt/archives/ [16:45] you can get to archives 2 ways on xubuntu [16:45] grrr [16:46] one had all packages in and other one only partial of 2m [16:46] you can? maybe the archives were updated since you last got them [16:46] nope installed pidgin and noted the packages as they installed [16:47] so does xubuntu and ubuntu share the saem repo...? [16:48] yes [16:49] but i fully installed xubuntu when 11.04 came out and saved those packages as well [16:49] there is something apt-get isnt doing in synaptic and update manager [16:50] maybe theres a broken pipe tween them [16:50] hee hee [16:51] and the stupid shutdown button in top panel right reboots everytime instead of shutdown [16:52] but the other way works still [16:52] wow. sounds like you have your work cut out for you ;) [16:56] lol [16:56] hi magespawn [16:56] Evening all [16:56] Hi Kilos [16:56] and it will take a while to get used to bottom panel disappearing and what does what [16:58] hi there [16:59] Hi kbmonkey [16:59] Ai the meeting on tonight [17:00] ya in 30 mins [17:00] wana start early? ;P [17:00] still gotta eat [17:02] Thought is was 19:00 [17:04] oh my i thought 19.30 [17:04] sigh [17:05] My google calender beeped at me no worries [17:05] lol i go try eat fast [17:05] i'd love to climb into bed, my head has a cold. [17:06] I see I have the alarm set half an hour before the start [17:06] yes 19h30 is the clock :] [17:06] Been up since 04:15, and the sun caught me this afternoon [17:07] So a bit sonked [17:08] Or is that zonked [17:08] Either way feel a bit like a steam roller got me [17:10] that makes two of us ;) he he === queery is now known as Guest89898 [17:19] nick queery [17:19] oops === Guest89898 is now known as queery1985 [17:20] is the meeting still busy [17:20] not started yet [17:21] oh oops what time does is start [17:21] 9 mins [17:21] ag damn ok so im early not late [17:21] lol [17:21] Maaz, coffee on [17:21] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [17:21] mazz coffee for all [17:21] you gotta /nick [17:21] maaz coffee for all [17:21] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [17:22] Maaz, coffee please [17:22] Kilos: Yessir [17:22] maaz seen drubin [17:22] queery1985: drubin was last seen 28 days, 40 minutes and 16 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-02-20 08:42:11 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-03-16 17:06:20 PDT [17:22] omw [17:22] brb [17:23] flippin Afrihost... Go to Axxess, and I have Internet in 5 minutes [17:25] :O I made it! [17:25] Maaz: coffee please [17:25] kbmonkey: Sure [17:25] am I late? [17:25] not yet [17:25] no nuvolari [17:25] hey apie! [17:25] and oom Kilos and superfly [17:25] Coffee's ready for queery1985, Kilos and kbmonkey! [17:25] hi nuvolari queery1985 Maaz [17:25] Maaz: coffee please [17:25] nuvolari: There isn't a pot on [17:25] hi Kilos, nuvolari, kbmonkey [17:25] Maaz: med lemon please! [17:25] kbmonkey: Go get it yourself! [17:25] and maiatoday [17:25] hi [17:26] maaz ty [17:26] You are welcome queery1985 [17:26] Maaz: coffee on [17:26] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [17:26] oh, is bytjie here? [17:26] yip [17:26] o/ maiatoday [17:26] hi nuvolari [17:27] thesis is in, so I have 6 weeks before corrections, enough time to have a release party [17:27] we have our agenda here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/379/detail/ [17:27] that is good news maiatoday :) [17:27] good luck maiatoday but we know it will be good [17:28] Wow and suddenly there were people [17:28] ty Kilos [17:28] so happy for you!! [17:28] im graduating the 28th [17:29] yay queery1985! [17:29] yay queery1985 well done [17:29] :-D [17:29] cool! :D [17:29] ty oom Kilos [17:29] maiatoday what is the thesis topic? [17:30] Coffee's ready for nuvolari! [17:30] in non academic speak, looking at software dev from an Agile perspective, when you are making artwork that is software based [17:31] Sounds cool [17:31] :) [17:31] digital mediums :D [17:31] it is in the art department, but I also had an engineering supervisor [17:31] yeah digital mediums [17:31] Maaz: thanks you kind bot [17:31] no worries, nuvolari [17:32] time to start yet? [17:32] When i hear thesis I tend to think history is such [17:32] been a while nuvolari! [17:32] yes we can start. methinks. [17:32] ye kbmonkey :-/ been a while [17:32] are you around here yet? [17:33] not yet, i'll make plans for a release party. [17:33] Maaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting [17:33] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [17:33] Maaz I am Maia Grotepass [17:33] maiatoday: Yessir [17:33] our agenda can be found at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/379/detail/ [17:34] Maaz I am Greg Eames [17:34] magespawn: Sure [17:34] Maaz: I am Wesley Werner [17:34] kbmonkey: Sure [17:34] maaz i am Dewald [17:34] queery1985: Sure [17:34] Maaz, i am miles sharpe [17:34] Kilos: Alrighty [17:34] Maaz: I'm Johan Mynhardt [17:34] nuvolari: Huh? [17:34] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [17:34] nuvolari: Yessir [17:34] lol [17:34] picky bot [17:34] ya lol [17:34] he was a parrot in his past incarnation [17:34] No contractions [17:35] contractionless bot [17:35] maaz botsnack [17:35] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [17:35] okay ^.^ [17:35] Maaz: topic Review previous minutes [17:35] Current Topic: Review previous minutes [17:35] I went through and summarized our minutes [17:36] Looking for people to email feedback about the Global Jam [17:36] did we have one? [17:36] So we can put it up on our wiki, include it in th emonthly report [17:36] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [17:36] superfly: Yessir [17:37] Well for anybody who did participate in any way [17:37] did anybody here do any Global Jamming? [17:37] nope :-/ [17:37] * kbmonkey did not. shuffles feet [17:38] * maiatoday did not, stares at the ceiling [17:38] No [17:38] kbmonkey: no, tumbleweed was talking about it, but he didn't have the time to actually organise anything, afaik [17:38] iirc [17:38] sjoe, okay. Next item :] [17:39] maybe we should apply for DST in ZA. an extra hour now and then can come in handy [17:39] I think everyone has been fairly busy [17:39] Indeed! [17:39] DST? [17:39] magespawn: daylight savings time [17:39] nah, I'd prefer using standard universal swatch time [17:39] I don't know if they loose or win time [17:40] Duh. Lol [17:40] Ubuntu Experience: Send in your stories! [17:40] A reminder, for all and new friends, to email in your Ubuntu experience stories to the mailing list [17:41] Anything specific? [17:41] Trying to build awareness, so your stories count, even more than experienced users [17:41] I have a one-liner: "android dev is WAY quicker and more stable on ubuntu" [17:42] Nothing specifc magespawn, more like if you want to share :) [17:42] ++ maiatoday [17:42] oh really maiatoday? now that I have a droid, I'd love to develop for it [17:42] whoot! you got one kbmonkey ? [17:42] And last on our previous minutes: Ordering Ubuntu CD's. [17:42] what did you get? [17:43] I'll take that action [17:43] You got this covered maiatoday, you said in the email [17:43] :D thank you [17:43] I spoke to drubin about the CDS and we'll sort it between the two of us [17:43] about 2 weeks ago nuvolari [17:43] Perhaps another learning channel for that, kbmonkey? [17:43] we need 64 bit versions [17:43] meh. I still have some CD's left. but they're old. I'm not going to acquire CD's this time [17:44] queery1985: I agree re 64bit but I don't know if they ship those [17:44] I can down load the ISO if people need them. [17:44] I got all my CD's out by shifting them into botiques and shops of friends [17:44] oh [17:44] worked well [17:44] I wrote the ubuntu-za URL on every CD too [17:44] Maaz: topic Ubuntu Hours [17:44] Current Topic: Ubuntu Hours [17:45] i want to org one in JHB soon [17:45] just don'tknow where yet [17:45] Hmmm I'll try to do one in Stellenbosch again too [17:46] nuvolari, what cds you got? [17:46] xubuntu 11.10 alternate? [17:46] If there is one in Durban iwould likevto trybto make it [17:46] Kilos: 11.04 I think oom [17:46] and not xubuntu :-/ [17:46] nuvolari: I plan to go to durbs sometime in the near future. Meet up for an Hour or a release party [17:46] magespawn: you can join me and kbmonkey [17:46] I think Kilos had enough of xubuntu ;) [17:47] lol [17:47] kbmonkey: I vote for a meet at M&B again? [17:47] That would rock. [17:47] no i gotta fix it kbmonkey because pc cant do unity [17:47] M&B sounds great! [17:47] oh wait, magespawn can you make it to gateway? [17:48] I can drive through to Balito if need be. The scenic drive will do me good [17:48] just remember to set your parties for after cds ahve arrived [17:48] Depends on the dates, i live in hluhluwe so has to be on a trip tovdurbs [17:49] * nuvolari checks googlemaps [17:49] kbmonkey, I'll take the monthly reports again for a while [17:49] who was doing them, I can liase and we can do it together [17:49] I need to come down sometime soon ish [17:50] magespawn, i did that trip every weekend for about a year except when demoina killed the bridges [17:50] magespawn: south of durbs? [17:50] Way north. [17:50] what is the release date, im thinking of org the ubuntu hour only after that [17:50] maiatoday, wb [17:50] I did them maiatoday, I can carry on but some help would be very well appreciated [17:50] we missed you [17:50] ok, I'll take them for a while [17:51] thanks for doing them kbmonkey [17:51] They aren't hard to do, just have to remember to do them [17:51] kbmonkey i meant to help but seemed to forget all the time, sorry about that [17:51] +20 karma for kbmonkey [17:51] oh wow, it's far! [17:51] magespawn: will ballito be better for you? [17:51] nuvolari: magespawn we will plan a meet via email :) [17:52] ok [17:52] Okay I have to come to get stock for the shop sometime next or month after [17:52] why do i suspect i missed a meeting [17:53] are missing :) [17:53] but you are here now [17:53] wow that is up by st Lucia magespawn [17:53] which makes it all good [17:53] you just late Tonberry but forgiven if you sign in [17:53] kbmonkey: are there more items from the minutes? [17:53] * kbmonkey gives Tonberry and maiatoday a cookie [17:54] Maaz i am Hendrik van Wyk [17:54] Tonberry: Righto [17:54] About half an hour past that turn [17:54] Maaz: topic [17:54] kbmonkey: What? [17:54] we are talking about Ubuntu Hours [17:54] but next topic is due now :) [17:54] we got side-tracked [17:54] well some of us are [17:54] hehe [17:55] Maaz: topic Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April) [17:55] Current Topic: Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April) [17:55] To remind us all of the upcoming release... [17:55] What do people wanna do? where shall we have one? [17:56] Start thinking about ideas [17:56] Tonberry: shall we organise one for Stellenbosch [17:56] i think so [17:56] or do people wanna go thru to cape town [17:56] I'd like to ride on a giant float in the shape of a Penguin [17:56] ... ideally [17:56] lol [17:56] or Pangolin... [17:57] 26 april is a thursday? [17:57] yes [17:57] yes it seems, so will we have it 28 then [17:57] would have to hold it on the 28th then [17:58] what she said [17:58] kde is telling me the 27th is a holiday [17:58] if the cds have arrived [17:59] that would be handy, to have a holiday weekend [17:59] yeah freedom day, then the tuesday after is workers day [17:59] Do the cd have [17:59] indeed the extra day for ubuntu would be auspicious! [17:59] this means everybody will be going away [17:59] is there a mirror at wits or UJ we can hack into? [18:00] queery1985: chat to me after, maybe there is someone at wits I know [18:00] why do i suspect that i will be summoned home that weekend... [18:00] ok awesome [18:00] Maaz: agreed Precise Pangolin party over the weekend of 27th April (freedom day) [18:00] Agreed: Precise Pangolin party over the weekend of 27th April (freedom day) [18:00] Hmm I think my family might also teleport me elsewhere [18:00] Do the CDs have to. be [18:00] *bzzz* energize [18:01] I just don't know how to do the "offline" repo's [18:01] no we do not need to have the CD's for a release party [18:01] Tonberry should we postpone to the weekend after the long weekend? [18:01] and don't have the resources to get them all [18:01] yes [18:01] Do the cd have to be canonical ones? Damn that wa hard to get out. [18:01] way too many people go home on those loooong weekends [18:01] okay you folks who might go away, cnofirm that and we can shift the release party onwards :) [18:02] lol no but they look better magespawn [18:02] Keyboard was nit playing nice [18:02] ^ ha ha ha [18:02] unless covers get printed on downloaded ones [18:02] Right could also inkjet print some. [18:02] for install fests we will need them :] [18:03] for release parties, cake will do nicely! [18:03] always [18:03] kbmonkey: I think it makes sense to move the relase party on by a week because else there won't be anyone around [18:03] need to find a spar neer me that does that [18:03] sigh younguns always thinking of their tummies [18:03] we would I think [18:04] we don't all have to have a release party at the same time [18:04] Maaz: agreed Move the release party on a week after the public holiday [18:04] Agreed: Move the release party on a week after the public holiday [18:04] no we don't need to, so if there are enough who want to have 2 parties... [18:04] more cake for us [18:04] lol [18:04] haha [18:04] brats [18:05] I was kinda hoping people in durban and in jo'burg would have one as well [18:05] Kilos: we will have to snailmail you some cookies [18:05] lol [18:05] well I'm keen to have one in Durban. Will definitely plan with nuvolari and magespawn ITR [18:06] i will bake my own chilli bites [18:06] Ill try and have one in JHB just need a geek to help set up the Repo's [18:06] oom Kilos, when can we come visit? [18:06] remember: there are also install fests to be had! [18:06] * nuvolari craves chillibites [18:06] there are some guys there queery1985 that did the last ones at irene club [18:06] queery1985: I'll mail you the contact of the people who did the release parties there before [18:06] check on the lists [18:06] * maiatoday drools at the thought of chillibites [18:06] yes Kilos! I want some chilli bites. I'll bring you some Mangos [18:07] nuvolari, anytime [18:07] thanx maiatoday [18:07] that went well [18:07] any closing words? [18:08] Stardates.co.za [18:08] ?? [18:08] what> [18:08] ?? [18:08] But the dates up there for parties etc. [18:08] Put [18:08] oh [18:08] Maaz: end meeting [18:08] Meeting Ended [18:08] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-03-19-17-33-30.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-03-19-17-33-30.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-03-19-17-33-30.html [18:09] thanks kbmonkey [18:09] wow that was quick [18:09] okay Thank all you geeks [18:09] ty kbmonkey maiatoday [18:09] and others [18:09] thanx guys [18:09] chat soon [18:09] yes Kilos we are efficient hey [18:09] looks like kbmonkey [18:09] better than last one [18:09] Lot more than some of the other meetings I go to [18:09] maaz bye [18:09] queery1985: Bye [18:09] but that was 3 months all in one [18:09] vetgesmeerde blits [18:10] toods queery1985 [18:10] maiatoday, ek is die 28st in die bos, weet nie hoe baie tyd ek gaan he nie maar dalk kan ons 'n coffee org [18:10] sorry, Im feeling very ill and have no patience for dawdeling . [18:10] bye oom kilos [18:10] and the fly didnt say anything tonight [18:10] the fly is likely very busy, doing the good work (tm) :D [18:11] eish kbmonkey [18:11] hope you feel better soon kbmonkey [18:11] flu/ [18:11] ? [18:11] * magespawn send kbmonkey a med lemon [18:11] hehe [18:11] awe thanks Maaz maiatoday [18:11] Lol [18:11] may be flu, cant say. may be new meds im on. time will tell :) [18:12] whew [18:12] cool we got some nice agenda items done [18:13] Kbmonkey what droid did you get? [18:13] samsung galaxy magespawn [18:13] kbmonkey it's super easy to get the droid dev stuff going, just need some bandwidth [18:14] eclipse and the android sdk and plugins [18:14] funny how they advertise it as latest, yet its an old model everywhere else [18:14] I have HTC flyer, so would also like to learn [18:14] * kbmonkey wish he took HTC [18:14] hmm. which htc kbmonkey ? [18:14] if you go to developer.android.com and follow the install steps it's pretty straightforward [18:15] I'm still indecicive [18:15] ill make a plan to get bandwidth, I'd love to get that going [18:15] *indicisive [18:15] The new one is pretty cool evo one or something like that. [18:15] not sure nuvolari. will have to do serious research [18:15] it's a good skill to have [18:16] indeed, most online jobs like at elance ask for mobile development [18:16] Yup trying to broaden my skills am learning python at the moment [18:16] does xubuntu come from somewhere else [18:16] not canaonical [18:16] does anyone here do J2ME or blackberry dev? [18:16] canonical either [18:17] maiatoday: stay away [18:17] as far as you can [18:17] it's horrific [18:17] Hah. Lol nuvolari. [18:17] no I don't wanna do bb or j2me, I'm just looking for someone who can [18:17] Experience speaks [18:18] if you find someone who can, label that person a masochist [18:18] maiatoday: it sounds like nuvolari is your man :-P [18:18] haha [18:18] where were you based again nuvolari? and would you be a masochist again? [18:19] to make matters worse, you can't do anything without windows [18:19] maiatoday: ballito [18:19] I'm not a masochist [18:19] I just tried to get a web icon working [18:19] yeah the windows thing [18:19] and that was no easy task [18:19] maiatoday, post it with the cd's [18:23] Ma [18:24] right i go play with xubuntu some. if i dont come online sleep tight all. [18:24] lekker slaap oom Kilos [18:24] ty for the cool meet [18:24] maiatoday is there anothe ide besides eclipse? [18:24] ya, thank you too oom! [18:24] Later Kilos [18:24] nag nuvolari , miskien sien ek jul later [18:24] magespawn: intellij [18:24] (community edition is perfect for android dev) [18:24] magespawn: you can build with ant so you can use vim [18:25] :P [18:25] Will check it tomorrow. [18:26] magespawn: I have only used eclipse [18:26] eclipse became the "jack of all trades, master of none" of the IDE world :P [18:26] but if that's the only thing you've ever used, it's good enough [18:26] but you can do most things from the command line so you could hook another ide up [18:26] I had a look at but was a bit heavy for the machine I had then [18:26] yay! finally I have uncapped! [18:27] * nuvolari is envious [18:27] FTW [18:28] oh my word! today was horrible at the office. I nearly fell asleep [18:28] I need my sunday afternoon nap [18:28] Have been using aptana for python on my windows machine [18:29] And for html [18:29] On Monday? [18:29] lol [18:29] magespawn: I needed it yesterday, hence the tiredness today [18:29] http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/projects/projects-cmdline.html [18:30] Hah [18:30] magespawn: ^^ [18:30] Going [18:30] anyone watched Jeremiah? [18:31] Ty maiatoday [18:32] ok ubuntu people and Maaz, I'll see you all later [18:34] I am aslo out of here, night all. [18:35] ullo [18:46] Maaz, coffee on [18:46] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [18:48] hi Kilos [18:48] hi superfly xubuntu makes me thirsty [18:49] Kilos: is it that bad? [18:49] does stupid things superfly like drag and drop on desktop says n [18:49] hasnt gotr backends to do that [18:50] and no beeps on xchat [18:50] but pidgin and vlc sound works [18:50] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [18:55] Maaz, ty [18:55] You are welcome Kilos [18:56] and the synaptic doesnt show size of packages [18:57] Kilos: I'm sure that's just a setting [18:58] most likely but they arent as easy to find as ubuntu. but keeping me outa mischief for a while [18:58] it also hangs a coupla times a day [19:00] the alerts in xchat i have ticked same as on ubuntu but there must be some other bit of software needed still [19:01] hooks or something [19:01] Kilos: check if "pulseaudio" is installed, and check in xchat what sound system it is set to use [19:02] i have told xchat to use alsa as did i with pidgin [19:02] also thought it was pulse [19:03] there is also no sound on bootup but so far i havent found the startup options [19:09] but ill get it going to my prefs sooner or later. quite a challenge. sleep tight superfly . [19:43] that was a long outage :/ [19:49] ohi kbmonkey [19:51] yes sir