[00:00] <mrfunk> quebre: im so sorry man, i played this game for years and i always thought 6112 and 6113 where the ports
[00:00] <quebre> mrfunk: no need to sorry me, it's you who waste the time instead of playing already ;)
[00:00] <gnomeaedad> what.cd
[00:00] <vit_o> dlentz, ok, so let me try, i'll came back to talk, thank you for your help!
[00:01] <dlentz> yw
[00:01] <mrfunk> quebre: is there any way to monitor which ports are requesting connections with the game opened?
[00:01] <quebre> mrfunk: tcpdump
[00:01] <mrfunk> quebre: okay, im going to try that out, is it in real time?
[00:02] <quebre> mrfunk: yeah, use -n switch, probably you want to specify port range
[00:02] <quebre> mrfunk: coz if you download something it will be huge
[00:02] <quebre> ;d
[00:03] <quebre> mrfunk: tcpdump -n udp port 6000-7000 and tcp port 6000-7000
[00:03] <quebre> should do the trick
[00:03] <mrfunk> quebre: haha okay, im with transmission open so im sure it would be
[00:04] <quebre> mrfunk: does that game require monthly paid subscription ??
[00:04] <mrfunk> quebre: okay, first im going to open the remaining ports
[00:04] <mrfunk> quebre: not, its free
[00:04] <quebre> mmh
[00:04] <quebre> does it have LAN option ?
[00:04] <quebre> would play with my kid..
[00:05] <mrfunk> quebre: you should buy the game but i play on "pirated" servers.. ha
[00:05] <quebre> mrfunk: don't say that loudly ;)
[00:05] <mrfunk> quebre: haha well they are "pirated" not really illegal, something like wow private servers
[00:05] <quebre> mrfunk: might consider buying it if the graphic doesn't look old..
[00:06] <mrfunk> quebre: not at all, its a good game, very dynamic, fast and smart, check some dota videos
[00:07] <IWIllNotChange> dota2?
[00:07] <IWIllNotChange> or just dota?
[00:07] <mrfunk> dota
[00:07] <quebre> IWIllNotChange: he said dota
[00:07] <vit_o> dlentz, nothing change. do you suggest to try the ati drivers?
[00:07] <mrfunk> quebre: okay im going to open those ports brb
[00:07] <quebre> take your time
[00:07] <quebre> [;
[00:08] <quebre> brb?
[00:08] <quebre> or just bbl?
[00:08] <IWIllNotChange> quebre: its a pretty open "topic" just to say "dota" in refrence to either one, didn't wanna sound stupid talking about the other one.
[00:08] <quebre> :)
[00:08] <dlentz> yes, try the proprietary driver
[00:08] <quebre> IWIllNotChange: i see
[00:08] <quebre> i sound stupid each time i talk
[00:09] <sammmy> I can't seem to restart my apache2 server on my VPS. I use to be able to just fine with apache2 -k restart, but now I'm getting an error message: "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[00:09] <IWIllNotChange> :P
[00:09] <quebre> it's not that bad ;)
[00:09] <IWIllNotChange> it happens
[00:09] <orionsonofneptun> anyone know how to get minicom
[00:10] <quebre> sammmy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[00:10] <quebre> sammmy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:10] <quebre> ;)
[00:10] <zykotick9> !info minicom | orionsonofneptun apt-get install
[00:10] <sammmy> Why do I have to do that now when I didn't before, quebre?
[00:10] <orionsonofneptun> sudo first???
[00:11] <IWIllNotChange> Did you install lamp since?
[00:11] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: sorry, "sudo apt-get install minicom" would be the comman
[00:11] <quebre> sammmy: because you did something before that broken your way of restarting and since i don't know what did you broke i advised the _normal_ way :)
[00:11] <piranah> lol @ minicom i rem using that to hit up BBS's back in the day when slack was installed off a crapload of floppies
[00:11] <quebre> sammmy: maybe you deleted the apache's user/group name ;)
[00:11] <piranah> lol
[00:12] <quebre> piranah: i remember it from slackware 5 ;P
[00:12] <sammmy> quebre: Oh I see. So using apache2 -k restart, isn't the normal way of restarting?
[00:12] <piranah> :)
[00:12] <quebre> sammmy: no it's not
[00:12] <orionsonofneptun> E: Package 'minicom' has no installation candidate
[00:12] <orionsonofneptun> that is terminal output
[00:12] <quebre> sammmy: always use the init script if possible, thats what they are for
[00:13] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: "lsb_release -sc" what's the output?
[00:13] <orionsonofneptun> oneiric
[00:13] <orionsonofneptun> is out put
[00:14] <sammmy> quebre: init.d directory holds initialization scripts for many programs?
[00:14] <vit_o> dlentz, installation not completed check /var/log/jockey.log. Do you want to see it?
[00:14] <quebre> sammmy: yes
[00:14] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: ? no idea - good luck
[00:14] <orionsonofneptun> ok then
[00:15] <sammmy> quebre: I see. I will use that from now on. Thanks. :)
[00:15] <quebre> sammmy: 5euro
[00:15] <IWIllNotChange> http://askubuntu.com/questions/114093/sudo-tasksel-install-mail-server-crash   <- fix it :/
[00:16] <quebre> IWIllNotChange: i know the solution but im too lazy :/
[00:16] <IWIllNotChange> well I can't move on without it:/
[00:17] <zykotick9> IWIllNotChange: why not use apt-get and install the actual mail package?
[00:17] <IWIllNotChange> I tried doing postfix and exim but they both still cause it to go straigh back to root :x
[00:17] <IWIllNotChange> straight*
[00:18] <zykotick9> IWIllNotChange: not sure what that means?
[00:18] <IWIllNotChange> the two files it uses (minus dovecove)
[00:18] <quebre> dovecove
[00:18] <quebre> ;D
[00:19] <M3nt_Al> looking for some update help
[00:19] <nyRednek> M3nt_Al: update help? of what kind?
[00:19] <roasted> Question - How can I see the properties of a folder in terminal? I want to see the size in Megabytes of specific folders in terminal. How can I do such a thing to get that kind of output?
[00:20] <zykotick9> roasted: "du -sh /folder" is one way
[00:20] <quebre> roasted: du -hs directory
[00:20] <M3nt_Al> i'm trying to keep an older version of a program from getting updated
[00:20] <quebre> linux doesn't have folders
[00:20] <quebre> ;d
[00:20] <nemchik> question: i like the way gnome shell handles workspaces (always offers a blank one beyond the currently used, and removed multiple unused) is there a way to get this behavior in unity?
[00:20] <nyRednek> quebre: nope, just files and sockets
[00:20] <hammommah> i have an old ati x300 card plugged into my mobo, i used it to run second monitor as my onboard graphics runs faster. can ubuntu handle to different display adapters at once? how do i setup ati drivers?
[00:20] <quebre> nyRednek: just files ;)
[00:21] <quebre> nyRednek: socket is a file too
[00:21] <nyRednek> quebre: actually, there exist sockets that aren't contained in files...
[00:21] <nyRednek> if you truly want a "file only" system, you have to go to plan9
[00:21] <quebre> nyRednek: if only plan9 have bigger fanclub
[00:21] <quebre> ;)
[00:21] <zykotick9> nyRednek: thank you!  i just learned about "not everything is a file", and couldn't remember the example - sockets ;)
[00:21] <Mr_Tok> hi i looking for some help for nvidia drivers problem (sorry for my english)
[00:22] <nyRednek> quebre: yeah, if only
[00:22] <vVREDVv> hey can i get a little help with an annoying little bug
[00:22] <quebre> nyRednek: the idea is lovely tho
[00:22] <nyRednek> quebre: yeah, but *nix is good enough
[00:23] <vVREDVv> when i move windows around the best word to describe it is laggy movement , i have disabled sync to vblank in my gfx and compiz but it still persists
[00:23] <quebre> but back to the point, you don't call linux directories 'folders' like you do on win
[00:23] <nyRednek> quebre: well, when you're using ubuntu, you can...
[00:23] <zykotick9> quebre: sorry, that was me ;)  and you're absolutely right!
[00:23] <nyRednek> quebre: it isn't incorrect, tbh
[00:23] <quebre> nyRednek: right, there is linux and there's ubuntu ;>
[00:23] <vit_o> dlentz, with the new driver it seems it work! thank you very much! ... i don't know what time is out there but i'm going to sleep (italy) so good night! ;)
[00:24] <quebre> zykotick9: ;)
[00:24] <zykotick9> quebre: s/linux/gnu linux/ :p ;)
[00:24] <hammommah> i have an old ati x300 card plugged into my mobo, i used it to run second monitor as my onboard graphics runs faster. can ubuntu handle to different display adapters at once? how do i setup ati drivers?
[00:24] <vVREDVv> any one know how to fix choppy windows movement
[00:24] <roasted> appreciate it, zykotick9 and quebre
[00:24] <nyRednek> ubuntu is a linux, but one that is heavily tweaked to be easier to use along with having all the features/packages debian carries
[00:25] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: um, disable some of your features
[00:25] <vVREDVv> i did
[00:25] <vVREDVv> ive tried it with no animations no effects same thing
[00:26] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: maybe disable your closed source video driver?
[00:26] <vVREDVv> I was told it was vsync but i turned that off
[00:26] <quebre> vVREDVv: maybe your hand is choppy..
[00:26] <vVREDVv> quebre its not i even tried it with my mouse at 480 dpi
[00:27] <zykotick9> vVREDVv: what GPU are you using?
[00:27] <M3nt_Al> Problem solved though google...
[00:27] <quebre> i was helping one man he was not aware that his hand shakes :p he thought it's broken system ;)
[00:27] <M3nt_Al> Goodnight!
[00:27] <vVREDVv> zykotick9 nVidia GTX460se
[00:28] <zykotick9> vVREDVv: hummm, i'd imagine that is a pretty resonable card?  no suggestions, good luck.
[00:28] <vVREDVv> i have tried the community drives and straight from the nVIdia repos
[00:28] <vVREDVv> my windows install works fine its just unity and gnome that i have this problem
[00:28] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: try to change back to the open source(vesa) driver
[00:28] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: just unity and gnome? no problem on xfce or kde?
[00:29] <vVREDVv> yea
[00:29] <kesi> Any suggestions on getting suspend or hibernate to work on 11.10 with an Asus laptop?
[00:29] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: that sounds deeply like a settings issue
[00:29] <vVREDVv> I have already messed around in there
[00:29] <vVREDVv> and kesi hibernate and suspend prolyl wont wrok
[00:30] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: make a new user account, try there, with a clean home dir
[00:30] <vVREDVv> I have
[00:30] <vVREDVv> same issue
[00:30] <kesi> vVREDVv, there's  no way? That could be a deal-breaker for me :(
[00:30] <nyRednek> kesi: does it work at all? or does it just not resume?
[00:31] <vVREDVv> kesi I know exactly what the problem is and you wont fix it
[00:31] <kesi> nyRednek, It doesn't seem to really power down and doesn't resume. Just blanks the screen but stays backlit
[00:31] <vVREDVv> same thing happens on my laptop
[00:31] <vVREDVv> yup wont work
[00:31] <vVREDVv> mine is like that by i get random coloured lines every where
[00:32] <nyRednek> kesi: you're stuck until someone fixes it upstream
[00:32] <kesi> nyRednek, if I go back to a previous version will I have better luck?
[00:32] <vVREDVv> kesi no
[00:32] <vVREDVv> kesi give the 12.04 beta a test run
[00:32] <mrfunk> quebre: hey man it worked perfectly, thank you!
[00:33] <quebre> mrfunk: 6euro
[00:33] <zykotick9> kesi: keep in mind 12.04 isn't supported in this channel until release
[00:33] <hammommah> kesi, is you swap at least as big as your ram?
[00:33] <kesi> hammommah, not sure, I did it automatically, how can I check that?
[00:33] <mrfunk> quebre: haha! inv you a beer instead? :)
[00:33] <quebre> mrfunk: suure ;)
[00:34] <hammommah> open disk manager and look at size of swap partition
[00:34] <vVREDVv> kesi its not the swap its just a little bug with it not liking your computer
[00:34] <mrfunk> quebre: i didnt come earlier because i was playing, see you later
[00:34] <hammommah> if you have heaps of hd space go 2xram for swap size
[00:34] <quebre> mrfunk: take care
[00:35] <kesi> hammommah, when I look in disk utility, I don't see one labeled swap but I have a unknown partition that's 4.2 GB. I have 4GB of RAM.
[00:35] <vVREDVv> kesi thats your swap
[00:36] <vVREDVv> like i said its not the swap
[00:36] <hammommah> no probs there then
[00:36] <vVREDVv> I had the same problem
[00:36] <kesi> okay, we get it vVREDVv. I'm still going to do any troubleshooting that people recommend
[00:36] <Guest44438> k
[00:37] <hammommah> worth checking i say, rule out as many possible causes
[00:37] <Guest44438> k
[00:37] <kesi> hammommah, I'm with ya.
[00:37] <nyRednek> kesi: which ubuntu are you using?
[00:37] <kesi> nyRednek, 11.10
[00:38] <vVREDVv> ok nyrednek as for my problem ive made it not as bad
[00:41] <klj613> recommendations for lightweight mail server? (SMTP)
[00:46] <vVREDVv> ok this is odd ive reduced my problem significantly by remove all my graphics drivers
[00:46] <vVREDVv> removing*
[00:47] <lcc> how can I configure a wireless printer?
[00:47] <lcc> hp
[00:47] <lcc> I've been reading tutorials and they aren't working.
[00:47] <lcc> I tried hp-setup -i
[00:48] <xpr3ss> I need to do some C++ programming, whats the best way to program and Compile to see results ( my college uses VISUAL BASIC 2008 on windows but Im on Ubuntu, so need Help)
[00:48] <vVREDVv> nyRednek i fixed it
[00:48] <CFHowlett_> xpr3ss   see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1325
[00:48] <vVREDVv> just had to enable copy to texture in compiz
[00:51] <lcc> nvmnd
[00:53] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: cool
[00:55] <gartral> hello everyone, I'm having an issue with brasero.. when I go too burn anything it eject the disk and then reports an error
[00:57] <vVREDVv> gartral first off i recomend a usb over a dvd any day second try a windows program in wine
[00:57] <vVREDVv> or a diffrent cd
[00:58] <Fyodorovna> vVREDVv, a widows program in wine lol.
[00:58] <nyRednek> i prefer wodim, but that's just me
[00:58] <gartral> vVREDVv: it's not the disk, and I'm trying too burn an audio cd for use in my car, it's a USB burner that works perfectly with k3b, but k3b takes up too much space
[00:58] <gartral> nyRednek: isn't brasero a front-end for wodim?
[00:59] <vVREDVv> gartral you have a phone or ipod?
[00:59] <gartral> vVREDVv: No.
[00:59] <nyRednek> gartral: yeah, it is, but wodim directly has more options
[00:59] <Fyodorovna> gardar, how full is your HD that you have to worry about the size of a working app?
[00:59] <vVREDVv> ok well I don't know much about brasero and i recommended all my other solutions
[01:00] <gartral> Fyodorovna: a 16 gig ssd with 320 mb left..
[01:00] <haz3lnut> vVREDVv: did you really recommend wine to burn cd?
[01:00] <vVREDVv> yes haz3lnut
[01:01] <vVREDVv> thats a worse case scenario if brasero is derpin
[01:01] <gartral> also, for thise interested, this is the log from brasero http://paste.ubuntu.com/890076/
[01:01] <Fyodorovna> gardar, thats not good.
[01:01] <haz3lnut> vVREDVv: so the 2 Vs in your nic stand for Windows and the RED stands for Redmond, maybe?
[01:01] <gartral> Fyodorovna: gardar gets mad when people confuse us..
[01:01] <vVREDVv> no my nick is R.E.D (my steam name) but its taken
[01:01] <vVREDVv> so I use my alts that include vV and xl not windows
[01:02] <vVREDVv> and redmond
[01:02] <haz3lnut> vVREDVv: just checking
[01:02] <gartral> nyRednek: how would I use wodim too burn an audio cd?
[01:03] <nyRednek> gartral: wodim track1file track2file track3file
[01:03] <nyRednek> gartral: also, it must be in wav format first
[01:03] <vVREDVv> haz4lnut Im mutual when it comes to windows because its what im used to but I hate M$ business model so im moving away from it
[01:03] <gartral> nyRednek: ahh.. that's a pain in the butt.. my audio is all in flac (on an external drive)
[01:03] <nyRednek> i use windows only because i must
[01:03] <vVREDVv> brb
[01:04] <nyRednek> gartral: that may be the source of the issue
[01:04] <gartral> nyRednek: how so?
[01:04] <haz3lnut> nyRednek: for?
[01:04] <nyRednek> haz3lnut: work
[01:04] <nyRednek> gartral: not sure if brasero converts flacs to wav first
[01:05] <gartral> nyRednek: it *should*
[01:05] <gartral> nyRednek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890076/
[01:06] <nyRednek> gartral: it's failing to convert
[01:06] <gartral> nyRednek: greeaaat...
[01:06] <Canadian1296> How can I get irssi to automatically connect to freenode and identify me, instead of doing it manually?
[01:07] <nyRednek> Canadian1296: the irssi faq explains all
[01:07] <Canadian1296> nyRednek: Okay I'll take a look
[01:08] <itaylor57> Canadian1296, http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3
[01:09] <diskinetic> I'm running a live USB  thumb drive (16gb), and I have no other drive on the system.  Can I use a second 16gb drive as "/home"?
[01:09] <nyRednek> i learned a couple weeks ago how to make alpine support multiple smtp servers and multiple signing/decryption pgp keys
[01:10] <Nach0z> diskinetic: yes
[01:10] <Nach0z> diskinetic: /etc/fstab, I believe, is the file you need to modify
[01:10] <Nach0z> I THINK
[01:10] <diskinetic> ok, I'll look
[01:11] <diskinetic> thx
[01:12] <Nach0z> anytime. just be careful with that stuff.... dunno if it'll break
[01:12] <diskinetic> ah, that's what backups are for.
[01:12] <haz3lnut> gartral: for i in *.flac; do ext=${i##*.} x="${i%.$ext}"; ffmpeg -i "$i" -y "${i%$ext}wav"; done
[01:12] <Nach0z> diskinetic: I meant more like, using a flash drive as your /home partition is not necessarily a good plan.
[01:12] <triscuit> when do you guys think 12.04 will be released?
[01:13] <haz3lnut> gartral: then burn the wavs
[01:13] <Flumpy> triscuit: Late April. It's on the timeline.
[01:13] <triscuit> Oh, cool
[01:13] <diskinetic> Nach0z as in it's a lousy plan?
[01:14] <haz3lnut> not cool, it's loaded with bugs.
[01:14] <Nach0z> diskinetic: that'd be my analysis, yes
[01:14] <diskinetic> Nach0z I have an SSD on the way, I was just goofing around
[01:14] <Nach0z> ahhh gotcha.
[01:14] <udh-winger> Can you get a software internship as a college dropout?
[01:15] <Nach0z> Yes, you can mount just about ANY folder onto a separate drive so long as the necessary files are still there for the OS to use
[01:15] <udh-winger> Anyone?
[01:16] <pangolin> !ot | udh-winger
[01:16]  * gartral says 'smeg it' and converts the files too wav in winff
[01:16] <diskinetic> I'm just trying to get persistence to work, and it's bugging me, plus, i can't get HDMI sound to work.  I'll try to fix everything in earnest when the SSD arrives and I have storage.
[01:17] <dlentz> diskinetic, are you using radeon open-source driver?
[01:17] <diskinetic> nope
[01:17] <diskinetic> it's an Nvidia card
[01:17] <dlentz> ok, there goes my solution :P
[01:17] <diskinetic> ha
[01:17] <grkblood> if I start my laptop on an external VGA monitor and then unplug it at a later time to use my laptop screen my screen has a very prominent green tint to it and I have to reboot the laptop to use the laptop monitor. Does anyone know of a fix for this or what I talking about?
[01:17] <kassabi92> bonjour
[01:17] <diskinetic> I've read some fixes, but until I have a storage, it's all lost on reboot.
[01:18] <diskinetic> so, blah
[01:18]  * Nach0z nods.
[01:18] <dlentz> grkblood, logging out doesn't fix it?
[01:19] <Guest87269> win7 messed up my sdcard, recovered files, now gonna reformat but first need to create new partition label
[01:19] <Guest87269> gparted gives me these choices: http://img.flashtux.org/img13302ff52f1xd23b4c68.jpg
[01:19] <Guest87269> which to choose???
[01:20] <Fyodorovna> Guest87269, msdos for partition table.
[01:20] <dlentz> msdos
[01:20] <Guest87269> msdos?
[01:21] <Guest87269> I was thinking which but msdos is a surprise to choose
[01:22] <Guest87269> done
[01:22] <Guest87269> thanks for the quick answer
[01:23] <Fyodorovna> Guest87269, no problem.
[01:23] <jgar0605> !register
[01:25] <diskinetic> I have a d/c intel 3400 celeron in a foxconn dh45 case, and a fanless 1gb asus video card.  I wonder if it would cook the innards if I disabled the case fan.
[01:25] <grkblood> dlentz, no
[01:26] <grkblood> whats its green its green
[01:26] <kesi> vVREDVv, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_U36SD#Suspend
[01:28] <dead-laptop-scre> My laptop screen died, so I connected an external monitor to it. The monitor is not getting a signal, even if I use the fn+ function to switch. Trying to run startx from the terminal (via ssh) gives me: (EE) FBDEV(0): Specified depth (24) is greater than the fbbpp (1) (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[01:28] <dead-laptop-scre> What does this mean or how can I make this work?
[01:38] <Dogears> Hi!
[01:39] <rking> Trying to help someone install some dependencies for a compile, and getting these erros: "libilmbase-dev : Depends: libilmbase6 (= 1.0.1-3build2) but 1.0.2-3.4~oo is to be installed" and "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."  Any suggestions?
[01:40] <rking> Full error: http://www.pasteall.org/30144
[01:41] <dlentz> rking, there;s a version of liilmbase from a ppa that's interfering
[01:41] <rking> dlentz: OK, I come from a Debian background, and don't understand the Ubuntu PPA idea. What do I tell him to do to fix this?
[01:42] <dlentz> You can try a force install of the -dev package
[01:43] <rking> The command was "sudo apt-get install libilmbase-dev" .. how do you force more than that?  Download & dpkg -i ?
[01:43] <Dulak> rking: a ppa is just a tiny .deb repository, nothing magical
[01:43] <rking> Dulak: But you overlay them on top of the official repos?
[01:44] <qwebirc116500> What does 'Specified depth (24) is greater than the fbbpp (1)' from xorg mean? I don't have a xorg.conf file, and X is failing to start with an external monitor attached
[01:44] <Dulak> rking: yes, usually you are doing it for a backport that isn't in an official repo
[01:44] <rking> Dulak: OK, thanks.
[01:45] <dlentz> apt-get --force-yes
[01:45] <rking> dlentz: K, thanks.
[01:52] <Dogears> I would like to upgrade my  Virtualbox 4.0.12 to 4.1.10 but the name has changed from virtualbox-4.0 to virtualbox.ose. What is the upgrade procedure?
[01:53] <slinkeey> Hello, what is the package that ubuntu uses to manage the touchppad/mouse?
[01:53] <slinkeey> I have xubuntu and would like to load whatever package ubuntu used for this
[01:53] <defendor> i neeed some serious help here guys
[01:53] <slinkeey> the configuration tool
[01:54] <valdur55> !help > defendor
[01:54] <defendor> i installed refit from the repos but when i reboot it doesnt show up
[01:54] <dlentz> Dogears, the -ose packages are transitional packages
[01:54] <defendor> anyone know how to use refit with ubuntu?
[01:55] <Fyodorovna> !info refit
[01:56] <defendor> i installed it but its now showing up in boot
[01:57] <Fyodorovna> defendor, you have a mac?
[01:58] <defendor> yes. and i installed lucid on it. now trying to boot precise but cant without refit
[01:58] <mkultra_> i need a mac to bang out some mac tutorials
[02:02] <kesi> nyRednek, just an fyi.. solution was here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_U36SD#Suspend
[02:03] <Pikkachu> I'm trying to build a package for hours
[02:03] <Pikkachu> how to build the bin package from source package? if you don't ***really*** know, don't point me to a [googled] tutotial
[02:05] <mkultra_> sh filename.bin
[02:05] <valdur55> Pikkachu, give more info,  what program
[02:05] <mkultra_> alt + f2 gnome-terminal
[02:08] <popsch> is there an alternative to gigolo for mounting drives? gigolo can't handle nfs mounts
[02:09] <Flannel> Pikkachu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb has some cursory information, and links to more detailed information from the MOTU
[02:16] <NoViS1> I'm having troubles getting my cell phone to play music through my computer speakers. I've gotten to the point where I can *see* the graphic equalizer in the sound manager hearing the music, but that audio source isn't going to the speakers... Anybody know how I can mix that sound source to the computer speakers?
[02:17] <Dogears> dlentz: I have a message each time I start to say an upgrade is available but I have downloaded and tried to upgrade but it thinks they are different packages
[02:19] <Xeneth> Anyone know if they are close to fixing the gnome panel distortion so I do not need "killall gname-panel"?
[02:23] <roasted> Question - Does anybody use Scheduled Tasks? I'm seeing in their help file to select "Change User" to launch tasks as root, but I'm simply not seeing it on my interface. Anybody else see it?
[02:28] <bodi> sob
[02:29] <pfifo> today Im only charging half my usual rate for ubuntu support
[02:31] <waxstone> 0 cant be divided :P
[02:33] <haz3lnut> waxstone sure it can. you can;t divide by 0
[02:33] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[02:33] <orionsonofneptun> ok dang how to get firmware for broadcom bcm4318 airforceone 54g wifi card ubuntu 11.10
[02:33] <waxstone> well 0 divided by anything is infinity
[02:33] <haz3lnut> waxstone 0 for you, 0 for me, 0 for pfifo...
[02:34] <orionsonofneptun> had to wipe hdd agian for the 4th time son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:34] <haz3lnut> waxstone you got that upside down and backwards.
[02:34] <waxstone> dividing by zero
[02:36] <orionsonofneptun> anyone???
[02:37] <pfifo> orionsonofneptun, `sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source`
[02:37] <orionsonofneptun> no im shure thats not quite it pfifo
[02:37] <orionsonofneptun> fw cutter or something
[02:38] <slackin> 5v5 scrim TS pm me!
[02:39] <pfifo> orionsonofneptun, well I like the STA driver much better cause it installs and works correctly
[02:40] <waxstone> haz3lnut, youre right lol
[02:44] <T_H_X> derp
[02:45] <hiexpo> hola all > hi ya bazhang > just wanted to say sorry personally to ya > I was being a jerk that nite :)
[02:49] <orionsonofneptun> ok
[02:49] <goddard> is anyone else tired of all the different IM clients ?
[02:49] <goddard> why cant one just work and stay working
[02:50] <gartral> goddard: not really. i use Pidgin, have for years, and always will unless something better comes along
[02:50] <Pikkachu> is there any problem when building packages from within ntfs partitions?
[02:50] <gartral> Pikkachu: YES. Lack of unix permissions.
[02:52] <hoshi411> anyone know of a good non distro specific linux testing and tweaking irc channel?
[02:52] <hoshi411> for more advanced users who tweak and pilliage their machines
[02:52] <hoshi411> monkey wrench linux hack irc support channel
[02:52] <Pikkachu> gartral: so if I chmod 777 a file supposed to be in /etc that's how it's going to be? are you guessing or you have a link to proof?
[02:52] <hoshi411> ?
[02:55] <18WAAEQ73> join #linuxmint-fr
[02:57] <gartral> Pikkachu: I know from experience that NTFS will flatten any permission flags you have set. because it doesn't understand them. if you want me too dig up proof.. i suppose i could google it.. but then agin, so could you.
[02:59] <pfifo> Pikkachu, ntfs doesnt support all the option needed to build packages, no symlinks no a/c/mtimes
[02:59] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[03:03] <haemogoblin> evening
[03:05] <T_H_X> goddard, yea, i just gave up. installed vbox with xp and run messanger in seamless mode ... :((((
[03:06] <Pikkachu> gartral: you assume I don't know about how permissions are handled in ntfs and escapes form the original question, I'm sorry but you're wrong and helpless
[03:07] <Pikkachu> pfifo: so there are standard/metafile-configurable permissions for deb packages, the build will simply use whatever the original files use?
[03:08] <Pikkachu> pfifo: anyway thanks for remembering me of symlinks, it doesn't really make sense...
[03:08] <Pikkachu> so boring, I wanted to keep stuff in ntfs
[03:09] <gartral> Pikkachu: Instead of insulting me, why don't you point me too *your* information?
[03:09] <Pikkachu> pfifo: symlinks are working in ntfs
[03:10] <Pikkachu> gartral: right after you stop trying sound smart answering unasked questions
[03:10] <zykotick9> gartral: you gave the right info, I'd just drop it... waste of your time ;)
[03:11] <kesi> Are there any good apps or ways of controlling power settings more efficiently than the defaults in 11.10? Not only is there too little available but when I manually lower the brightness with the fn keys, it just goes back up after any time of dimming
[03:11] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[03:11] <gartral> zykotick9: as an outside observer too the conversation, did you see me "talking to myself" as Pikkachu says i did?
[03:12] <zykotick9> gartral: i don't want to get in the middle ;)  but, i stand by the "you gave the right info", the receiver just wasn't ready to accept it
[03:12] <gartral> zykotick9: Understood, thank you.
[03:13] <gartral> Pikkachu: You appear to be instigating trouble that's uncalled for here.. I'm /ignoring you
[03:13] <pfifo> Pikkachu, only hardlinks iirc, and autotools systems uses things like mtime and symlinks and fifos during its build process, and that process is part of building a deb package
[03:13] <Pikkachu> zykotick9: heh
[03:14] <Pikkachu> bob: how to do X? john: you do Y by Z zykotick9: cool, john
[03:14] <Pikkachu> pfifo: man it's working
[03:14] <satyanash> Has anyone used the program called Nitrogen, to set backgrounds? How do I find out which version I have installed ?
[03:14] <Pikkachu> pfifo: cd /media/Dados (the ntfs partition)
[03:15] <DJ> Pikkachu, please behave,
[03:15] <Pikkachu> pfifo: ln -s /media test
[03:15] <Ashtray777> Could anyone tell me if I will be able to use gnome shell if I choose Unity as my GUI?
[03:15] <log> Ashtray777: You can switch to gnome-shell upon login.
[03:15] <Ashtray777> oh ok ty.
[03:15] <Pikkachu> pfifo: it works just fine
[03:16] <log> Ashtray777: You're welcome.
[03:16] <pfifo> Pikkachu, cool story bro
[03:16] <Pikkachu> pfifo: true one
[03:17] <rawfodog> will the latest release of Ubuntu support new wacom tablet models ?
[03:19] <pfifo> rawfodog, no, but if you send it to me Ill write a driver for it :D
[03:19] <gartral> rawfodog: afaik unless the new tablet has some strange new hardware, the current drivers *Should* work
[03:19] <rawfodog> they dont gartral, I just bought the connect today, plugged it in, and nothing ;_;
[03:20] <xj1nxyx> satynash, open nitrogen with terminal and version should display before the program loads.
[03:20] <Dogears> Am I safe to upgrade to virtualbox from virtualbox-4.0 without losing settings.
[03:20] <pfifo> rawfodog, do you have the one with the built in LCD?
[03:20] <rawfodog> no, it is the BAMBOO CTL-470 pfifo
[03:21] <pfifo> rawfodog, have you ever used a tablet in linux before?
[03:21] <gartral> rawfodog: have you looked into upgrading too a newer driver than what's shipped with ubuntu?
[03:22] <rawfodog> gardar, this is the only tutorial to do so, and it's INCREDIBLY difficult to follow. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515562
[03:22] <zykotick9> satyanash: did you install it with U.S.C. or apt-get?  if so you can use "apt-cache policy nitrogen" or "dpkg -l | grep nitrogen" from terminal to find version
[03:22]  * gardar slaps rawfodog
[03:22] <orionsonofneptun> ok how to get lm sensors
[03:23] <zykotick9> !sensors | orionsonofneptun
[03:23] <rawfodog> whoops
[03:23] <rawfodog> lol sorry gardar
[03:23] <rawfodog> gartral, this is the only tutorial to do so, and it's INCREDIBLY difficult to follow. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515562
[03:23] <satyanash> zykotick9, apt-get
[03:23] <zykotick9> satyanash: "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"
[03:23] <xj1nxyx> any fellow backtrack users in here ?
[03:23] <zykotick9> !backtrack | xj1nxyx
[03:23] <gartral> rawfodog: Yea.. gardar gets grumpy, but are you on the latest ubuntu (11.10)?
[03:24] <rawfodog> yes gartral
[03:24] <satyanash> zykotick9, aah... Thanks.
[03:24] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[03:24] <satyanash> zykotick9, though I don't get the point of lm-sensors
[03:24] <wubino> so I accidentally uninstalled python via "sudo apt-get remove python"
[03:24] <orionsonofneptun> whats the command
[03:25] <log> orionsonofneptun: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[03:25] <wubino> All was fine for a while until the next login
[03:25] <orionsonofneptun> sudo apt-get lm-sensors???
[03:25] <wubino> unity was gone, not I got it back
[03:25] <wubino> but the gui seems slightly off
[03:26] <zykotick9> roasted: you'd have to test/check, but i doubt rsync will see .gvfs as a separate filesystem... so --exclude is "probably" still needed
[03:26] <pfifo> rawfodog, there should be a wacom drive available from PPA since that thread has been around sine jun 2010, have you searched launchpad?
[03:26] <log> orionsonofneptun: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[03:26] <wubino> the terminal emulator byobu does not allow for right clicks
[03:26] <rawfodog> pfifo, I don'
[03:26] <orionsonofneptun> ok how to check temp
[03:26] <roasted> zykotick9: yeah, I know testing it would be the way to go. Considering the hour of the night, I'm stuck to Googling around for now. Nonetheless, I'm seeing that -x actually might ignore .gvfs... not quite positive though.
[03:26] <xj1nxyx> omg.... mabad yo
[03:26] <pfifo> wat?
[03:27] <rawfodog> t know much about launch pad. what would I be looking for ? isnt launch pad for bugs ? pfifo
[03:27] <pfifo> !PPA | rawfodog
[03:27] <zykotick9> roasted: it could!  i'm certainly only guessing.
[03:27] <zykotick9> wubino: byobu isn't a terminal emulator, it's a wrapper to screen.  Why would it need right clicks?
[03:28] <rawfodog> pfifo, I'm not an advanced ubuntu user, I do not know which ppas will be useful for me.
[03:28] <wubino> zykotick9, thanks for the clarification but normally I can configure text size via menues
[03:28] <wubino> not anymore
[03:28] <zykotick9> wubino: ahhh in xterm yes
[03:28] <wubino> menus
[03:29] <orionsonofneptun> command to check lm-sensor temp?????
[03:29] <wubino> bash commands are no problem but the normal gui functionality is gone
[03:29] <zykotick9> wubino: how are you starting byobu?  use alt+f2 type xterm, then try starting byobu and see if you have rightclick
[03:30] <pfifo> rawfodog, im not sure either but let me take a look
[03:30] <orionsonofneptun> ??????
[03:30] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: "sensors"
[03:30] <pfifo> rawfodog, this looks hopeful https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/wacom
[03:31] <wubino> zykotick9, nothing
[03:31] <zykotick9> wubino: if you just start xterm can you right click?
[03:31] <orionsonofneptun> thanks
[03:32] <rawfodog> pfifo, how do I download this ?
[03:32] <wubino> I can right click in other programs with or without xterm
[03:32] <pfifo> rawfodog, well its time to sit down and learn how PPA's work :)
[03:32] <zykotick9> wubino: so it's a byobu issue then.  sorry i can't help, i use the real thing instead - good luck.
[03:32] <wubino> Unity 2d and Unity 3d are not options are login -- just "ubuntu"
[03:33] <pfifo> rawfodog, if you have specific questins were right behind you
[03:33] <wubino> I think this is a gnome, kde , unity problem
[03:33] <T_H_X> wubino:  highlight with mouse and ctrl-shft-c to copy, or ctrl-shft-v to paste in term.
[03:34] <wubino> I already did the unity --restore thing
[03:34] <wubino> T_H_X, like I said normal bash use is fine
[03:34] <rawfodog> pfifo, I added the ppa, and I went to update packages, ubuntu says its up to date
[03:34] <wubino> the gui elements in ubuntu 11.10 are now just slightly off from where I started
[03:35] <hoshi411> isnt there something like aptitude or dpkg or apt-get a package manager that has the power to remove a package while ignoring dependency errors?
[03:35] <pfifo> rawfodog, did you run `sudo apt-get update`
[03:35] <zykotick9> hoshi411: that would make no sense...
[03:35] <kah> hey, can you not use quotations in Tomboy notes?
[03:36] <rawfodog> pfifo, yes, still says no updates
[03:36] <kah> nvm, looks like i just found out my keyboard is focked
[03:36] <kah> ;;;//..////
[03:36] <pfifo> rawfodog, how exactly did you add the ppa?
[03:37] <rawfodog> synaptic pfifo
[03:39] <zykotick9> !addppa | rawfodog adding with synaptic probably doesn't add the required key
[03:39] <pfifo> rawfodog,  run this `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:irie/wacom` then this `sudo apt-get update` then this `sudo apt-get upgrade` then this `sudo apt-get install input-wacom wacom-source xf86-input-wacom`
[03:40] <rawfodog> pfifo, "Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/irie-wacom-oneiric.list
[03:40] <rawfodog> "
[03:41] <pfifo> rawfodog, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/irie-wacom-oneiric.list file then
[03:43] <rawfodog> pfifo, there was a ain at the end of the file, I just deleted it
[03:43] <rawfodog> pfifo, i get a lot of errors , "Unable to locate package input-wacom
[03:43] <zykotick9> rawfodog: was it on it's own line?  i'd guess it was suppose to be "main"
[03:43] <rawfodog> "
[03:43] <James78> Anyone familiar with fsck, I got a message, "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.", what do the options mean? "1) Copy original to backup 2) Copy backup to original"
[03:44] <rawfodog> it was on a line of its own zykotick9 , should I add MAIN ?
[03:44] <pfifo> rawfodog, :) also int the descript it says to `sudo apt-get install wacom-dkms xserver-xorg-input-wacom`
[03:44] <zykotick9> rawfodog: no just leave it for now, but it might be missing something
[03:45] <hoshi411> zykotick9: so there isnt a way to do this? it only makes sense if you are experimenting and learning... picking things apart and tweaking stuff
[03:45] <hoshi411> im not asking for troubleshooting advice or anything like that
[03:45] <Drakal> Hi, Someone of you have Asus G53SX' s laptop?
[03:45] <pfifo> hoshi411, investigate `dpkg --force-all`
[03:46] <orionsonofneptun> ok guys im trying to get minicom but i get error in terminal
[03:46] <zykotick9> hoshi411: perhaps you aren't clear what a dependency is?  gnu/linux is a bunch of little pieces, and some rely on others to work - you're trying to break that?
[03:46] <rawfodog> http://pastebin.com/ZyLfNRbt pfifo zykotick9
[03:46] <orionsonofneptun> what is the way to get it
[03:46] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu 11.10
[03:46] <hoshi411> im asking hypothetically: is there a package manager that can ignore everything and delete the packages you request it to delete? that's all. there either is one or there is nt one
[03:46] <pfifo> rawfodog, You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:46] <Kyouko-chan> hi
[03:46] <hoshi411> zykotick9: yes hypothetically I would want to break that
[03:47] <hoshi411> just hypothetically asking if this is possible
[03:47] <hoshi411> no need to get all worked up about this
[03:47] <zykotick9> hoshi411: why would anyone make such a thing?  no package manager will intentionally break dependencies... doesn't make ANY sense, so why would it?
[03:47] <hoshi411> does this exist or not ... simple
[03:47] <pfifo> hoshi411, yes
[03:47] <rawfodog> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/qhKrXEeL
[03:47] <babble> a *package manager* won't do it for you, but you can do it yourself.
[03:47] <hoshi411> zykotick9: pfifo seems to say this exists
[03:47] <James78> dpkg -r --force-all package
[03:48] <babble> if you really really want to break your system, yes, you can just run dpkg manually.
[03:48] <hoshi411> pfifo: and James78 thank you very much : )
[03:48] <James78> Warning: Risks involved. In can break your system.
[03:48] <hoshi411> babble:  yes hypothetically I would want to break my machine or it was already broken
[03:48] <hoshi411> but hypothetically this is a machine for experimentation anyways
[03:48] <babble> again, what you want isn't really the purpose of a package manager.
[03:49] <hoshi411> babble: I see , yes that would make sense : )
[03:49] <babble> if you want to break your system, you can, but you aren't going to find a sane package manager that will do it for you
[03:49] <pfifo> rawfodog, im not sure, whats going wrong search in the software center for wacom related stuff, perhaps is named something different
[03:50] <Kyoko-chan> why does my internet connection slow down/disconnect when my laptop is not connected? =/
[03:50] <James78> hoshi411: Running dpkg like that can be very useful when you need to completely remove (purge) a package, and install it again, but ignoring all the dependencies it tries to force you to remove. :)
[03:50] <hoshi411> babble: ok so my use of the word package manager was not ... or my question was not worded correclty but thank you
[03:51] <babble> hoshi411: I'm not trying to play word police -- just trying to get at what it is you actually want to do
[03:51] <rawfodog> pfifo, nothing.
[03:51] <rawfodog> pfifo, thanks anyway
[03:52] <Kyoko-chan> why does my internet connection slow down/disconnect when my laptop is not connected? =/
[03:52] <pfifo> one time i install libc from a redhat 9 rpm using apt2rpm and dpkg, my system made it 10 minutes until complete meltdown
[03:52] <hoshi411> babble: but im not looking for support... it was just a hypothetical question....  i just want to hypothetically delete a package without having any error tell me I shouldnt
[03:52] <hammommah> is there anyway to get xrandr to use my onboard gpu and ati card? ati native driver doesnt support my ati card so im stuck with open source driver?
[03:52] <Kyoko-chan> ...
[03:52] <Scunizi> Kyoko-chan: that doesn't make any sense unless you're trying to get to the internet from the laptop that is "disconnected"
[03:52] <hoshi411> if there were a time when I would want to do that, then I would want to know how
[03:54] <Kyoko-chan> well, yes, perhaps I didn't use the right words
[03:54] <hoshi411> it just amazes me how linux which is a OS built around the principal of having access to eveyrthing in the system for experiment and learning reasons , why some people would get so worked up about experimentation and learning... breaking for the sake of breaking.. breaking for the sake of fixing. opening what you shouldnt and pulling and rearranging. this is what linux is for
[03:54] <hoshi411> specially if i have  a box designated for this activity
[03:55] <James78> Virtual Machine. :)
[03:55] <Kyoko-chan> when it's plugged to the charger I don't have any problems, but when I unplug it its connection slows down a lot, or it even disconnects for a while
[03:55] <babble> hoshi411: sure, but I just wanted to make sure you understood the implications of that, and to get *why* no real package manager is going to break your system for you.
[03:56] <Scunizi> Kyoko-chan: sounds like a power saving mechanism that's kicking in.. not really sure what to do about that..
[03:56] <James78> hoshi411: If you're not using a Virtual Machine, you might want to look into one. Specifically VirtualBox. It'll make your life MUCH more simple.
[03:56] <Kyoko-chan> yeah, that's what I've been told x_x
[03:56] <Kyoko-chan> someone said it was related to the kernel
[03:56] <Kyoko-chan> but I know nothing about configuring the kernel
[03:56] <wired_> this might be a silly question, but Virtualbox is similar to what a VNC client does, no?
[03:56] <Scunizi> Kyoko-chan: have you checked the forums for you laptop and network connectivity?  ubuntuforums.org
[03:57] <Scunizi> wired_: no..
[03:57] <Kyoko-chan> not really, I'll try xD
[03:57] <zykotick9> wired_: no.  VNC is remote access.  VBox is virtualization
[03:57] <wired_> i see. thanks.
[03:57] <Kyoko-chan> VirtualBox lets you have a guest OS within your OS
[03:58] <babble> hoshi411: well, the point is that all you're going to get with a broken dependency is either an app that won't launch or a desktop environment that won't load.
[03:58] <babble> I mean, sure, you can *do* that, but it's a bit like ripping the wings off of a moth, just to make sure it can't fly once you do
[03:59] <James78> Anyone familiar with fsck, I got a message, "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.", what do the options mean? "1) Copy original to backup 2) Copy backup to original"
[03:59] <babble> if it entertains you, by all means, break your system all day long
[03:59] <babble> but it won't (it seems) give you much in the way of useful information beyond, "yep. Doesn't work now."
[04:02] <hiexpo> never get a thank you ?
[04:02] <rawfodog> pfifo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889203&highlight=wacom+ctl+470 ?
[04:03] <wired_> he might just want to know, despite whether or not the information is "useful" ...
[04:03] <pfifo> rawfodog, thats building from source, which will work too
[04:04] <rawfodog> so far so good, except I get this error, maybe you know what I'm doing wrong ... http://pastebin.com/4f2BSkCc
[04:05] <rawfodog> pfifo, nm its because there was a space in the folder name
[04:08] <rawfodog> pfifo, guess whos got a working wacom tablet ?
[04:08] <rawfodog> pfifo, thanks for all the help ;)
[04:09] <Kyoko-chan> sigh
[04:15] <orionsonofneptun> how do i get minicom
[04:15] <orionsonofneptun> terminal throws error i need a different way or simalir program
[04:15] <Dulak> orionsonofneptun: sudo apt-get install minicom
[04:16] <L3top> !info mesa-utils
[04:19] <orionsonofneptun> ok anyone know where to get support for minicom what channel????
[04:20] <orionsonofneptun> orion@orion:~$ minicom
[04:20] <orionsonofneptun> minicom: cannot open /dev/tty8: Permission denied
[04:20] <orionsonofneptun> orion@orion:~$
[04:20] <scientes> How do i fix the problem where apt tries to get compressed "Packages" files which launchpad doesn't host
[04:20] <cliff_> Hello, I just installed and updated ubuntu 11.10 and I am unable to see my laptop battery icon. My laptop is a Satellite L655
[04:21] <goddard> is anyone else tired of all the different IM clients ?
[04:21] <goddard> why cant one just work and stay working
[04:22] <orionsonofneptun> im so sorry youve got a toshiba lol
[04:22] <orionsonofneptun> i hate my toshiba
[04:22] <babble> goddard: I use (and like) Pidgin, but what are you having trouble with?
[04:22] <quebre> goddard: pidgin
[04:22] <wired_> goddard: Pidgin always worked for me
[04:22] <goddard> video chatting
[04:22] <cliff_> lol.. i am starting to hate it
[04:22] <quebre> im is not video chatting
[04:22] <quebre> ^.-
[04:22] <goddard> empathy doesn't seem to work
[04:23] <cliff_> My GF gave it to me.. Is there a fix to show the battery?
[04:23] <ssfdre38> i got a public key error on a chroot http://paste.ssfdre38.com/70 and how can i get the key on it
[04:23] <orionsonofneptun> im trying to install ubuntu on toshiba sattelite m45-s625 it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:23] <quebre> at the moment there is nothing better than pidgin
[04:23] <goddard> quebre: haven't heard the new term for it then i guesss
[04:23] <orionsonofneptun> the bios is possibly fighting it
[04:24] <orionsonofneptun> or the hardware
[04:24] <goddard> pidgin does video chat good with macs and pcs?
[04:24] <quebre> BIOS WARRIOR
[04:24] <cliff_> everything else seems to work ok. It would be nice to see where the battery is at
[04:24] <quebre> ;>
[04:24] <orionsonofneptun> stupid bios
[04:24] <cliff_> It worked when I had windows on this. Would that cross out the bios/hardware?
[04:24] <babble> for video chat, I use google chat in chrome or skype.
[04:25] <cliff_> i seen on a google search that there was a kernel patch for toshiba batteries but it was a bit old and I was unable to get it going anyways
[04:25] <ssfdre38> orionsonofneptun, have you tired doing a live cd to see what it is
[04:25] <orionsonofneptun> ive got ubcd
[04:25] <orionsonofneptun> and reset cmos
[04:26] <ssfdre38> just boot it into the desktop and dont try to install it
[04:26] <orionsonofneptun> and tested memory and cpu
[04:26] <goddard> quebre: maybe some one should fix this then
[04:26] <goddard> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
[04:26] <sacarlson> orionsonofneptun: not sure why you need minicom; but I was able to bring it up with sudo minicom ;  as seems my tty8 is restricted
[04:26] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu 11.10 boots and when i pick try without install it shuts off and restarts
[04:27] <orionsonofneptun> sacarlson  ok
[04:27] <brando753> Alright I have gotten a lot of crashes on my laptop every day and I think I want to switch to debian, the only problem I can think of is my /home directory is encrypted and I wish to keep it in tack will this pose a problem?
[04:27] <Dogears> That was messy, to upgrade virtualbox from 4.0 to 4.1 you have to upgrade which removes 4.0
[04:28] <goddard> brando753: there is a laptop testing team maybe you could join and submit your bug reports
[04:28] <Dogears> then the new version is not listed on the Unity desktop
[04:28] <orionsonofneptun> ok imin minicomm
[04:28] <orionsonofneptun> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:28] <gartral> brando753: one, I reccomend seeking out the Laptop Testing Team. and 2: it *shouldn't* be a problem, but i've never attempted such
[04:29] <Dogears> So remove all and install the latest from the virtualbox site!
[04:29] <orionsonofneptun> ok where to get support useing minicomm to flash bios via vga serial connection
[04:30] <orionsonofneptun> channel????
[04:31] <ultrixx> what is a vga serial connection?
[04:31] <sacarlson> orionsonofneptun: i've never heard of minocomm used to flash a bios;  most bios flash a self booting disks that only flash or run in windows or dos6
[04:31] <orionsonofneptun> monitor cable r232
[04:31] <Kyoko-chan> Scunizi: I sorta fixed it, sudo pm-powersave false xD
[04:31] <Kyoko-chan> thanks for your help =D
[04:31] <ultrixx> orionsonofneptun: vga and serial port might look quite similiar, but they are entirely diffenrent interfaces
[04:32] <orionsonofneptun> i know a engeneer that says this is going down son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:32] <dead-laptop> I can't get X to start at all anymore - can anyone help?
[04:32] <orionsonofneptun> r232
[04:32] <orionsonofneptun> port
[04:32] <ultrixx> orionsonofneptun: you are a troll
[04:32] <goddard> dead-laptop: what did you do before this happened?
[04:33] <dead-laptop> My laptop screen died, so I connected an external monitor to it - but it's still not working.
[04:33] <ultrixx> please kick orionsonofneptun he insulted me
[04:33] <dead-laptop> (oh and my graphics card dissapeared from lspci)
[04:34] <orionsonofneptun> lol
[04:35] <dead-laptop> This is what Xorg.0.log says for startx: http://pastebin.com/XucfE3s5
[04:37] <orionsonofneptun> ok where to get support???
[04:38] <orionsonofneptun> its ubuntu minicom and bios 1.70 knowedge
[04:38] <orionsonofneptun> knowledge
[04:39] <goddard> dead-laptop: i know with my setup i have to tell nvidia settings manager to enable the display
[04:40] <dead-laptop> I can't even launch nvidia settings. There is no X.
[04:40] <goddard> since you dont have a display you probably have to enable it yourself with the correct settings which may or may not be difficult
[04:40] <dead-laptop> Yes... that's my issue.
[04:40] <goddard> ive never ran into this issue but at least you know a possible work around now
[04:41] <dead-laptop> I don't have any work arounds
[04:41] <dead-laptop> Neither the laptop screen nor the monitor come on.
[04:41] <orionsonofneptun> dead-laptop im assuming its a laptop that dont work ??? just to clarify
[04:41] <goddard> and a live cd doesn't help?
[04:41] <dead-laptop> Laptop is working, the monitor isn't
[04:41] <navchauhan> hi
[04:41] <orionsonofneptun> the laptop monitor???
[04:41] <navchauhan> help me
[04:41] <dead-laptop> Yeah
[04:41] <orionsonofneptun> ok
[04:42] <hoshi411> James78: it appears that even dpkg -r --force-all will not remove packages sometimes. "dpkg unrecoverable error aborting" why would it abort removing something when I forced it to do so O_o if I want to destroy my system , shouldnt I be allowed to? "libreoffice-writer is missing final newline" it tells me... so what? just delete it ..... O_o
[04:42] <navchauhan> plz help me
[04:42] <navchauhan> hi mrono
[04:42] <Mrono> I'm having issues with upstart, anyone know how to make an upstart job
[04:42] <Mrono> I put in a .conf file and it's not recognizing it
[04:43] <navchauhan> plz help me
[04:43] <orionsonofneptun> dead-laptop ive got a rookie fix for you get a new mb lol
[04:43] <babble> hoshi411: what you want to do doesn't really make any sense, which is why there are safeguards against it.
[04:43] <babble> if you really really want to nuke something you know is going to break your system, sudo and rm it
[04:43] <babble> but again, why? just because you can?
[04:44] <navchauhan> how can i connect my laptop to bluetooth
[04:44] <babble> I mean, fine, go ahead, but beyond affirming to yourself that it's within your power to break your system, I fail to see what this accomplishes.
[04:44] <navchauhan> hi orphan
[04:45] <navchauhan> my bluetooth is not working on my laptop
[04:45] <navchauhan> i m using lenove y410 in ubuntu 11.10
[04:46] <James78> hoshi411: I think this has to do with broken dependencies (which would happen after force removing too many packages). I've only ever used dpkg --force-all in order to do some package manipulations I couldn't do otherwise, thus saving me from it killing my system (remove and reinstall a package without getting rid of dependencies).
[04:47] <babble> or, that - I hadn't thought about that.
[04:47] <babble> so, huzzah, hoshi411, you've very likely accomplished your goal.
[04:49] <navchauhan> hi babble
[04:50] <Pirsch> Hi all. I have two offices in the same building, just different floors. I would be very happy if I could somehow access the pc in my other office. It's would save me a lot of travel time. How can I do this?
[04:51] <Pirsch> I've tried 'Desktop' sharing but I see no indicators or have any idea how to use this. Is it the right program?
[04:51] <navchauhan> go to hell
[04:52] <dead-laptop> Pirsch: I'm not certain of what is the easiest way to go about this.
[04:52] <sacarlson> Pirsch: by what manner do each system connect to the internet?  are they on the same local network?
[04:53] <Pirsch> To be honest, I am not sure but when I brought one pc down from upstairs it connected to the net without changing any settings.
[04:54] <Pirsch> There's also a program called 'Remote Desktop Sharing'. Might that work?
[04:54] <sacarlson> Pirsch: from that I assume it's using ethernet so try ifconfig on each to identify what your ip address is on each and see if you can ping between each
[04:54] <Pirsch> In Terminal?
[04:55] <sacarlson> Pirsch: yes term
[04:56] <Pirsch> It is ethernet (eth0). But what should I be looking for?
[04:56] <sacarlson> Pirsch: if they ping then you can ssh into and share files or many other methods of exchange
[04:56] <orionsonofneptun> i beleave thier is a way to send it threw vga cable into mb somehow i need to study it more   this is tough ubuntu install
[04:57] <sacarlson> persh   inet addr:192.168.2.250 ;  the inet address as this is an example
[04:57] <Pirsch> My IT guy is Windows-conditioned and somewhat unfamiliar with Linux. Should he be able to figure this out if I show him ifconfig?
[04:57] <Pirsch> I know very little about net and connections.
[04:58] <Pirsch> brb
[04:58] <sacarlson> Pirsch: in windows world they use the command ipconfig ;  I assume both systems are ubuntu as you didn't state other
[04:58] <Pirsch> Yes, both are 11.10
[04:59] <Pirsch> So he should be able to figure this out then
[04:59] <Pirsch> brb
[05:03] <xds_> hello
[05:13] <whoisthis> damn I'm silly...I have tar.gz.001, .tar.gz.002 etc. archives
[05:13] <whoisthis> how do I unpack them?
[05:13] <whoisthis> (It's split archive)
[05:19] <econnell> what's the command to upgrade to the beta?
[05:20] <econnell> apt-get --[what magic here]?
[05:20] <hawks008> econnell: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing and look there
[05:21] <econnell> oh... i need to swtich everythig to precise in the apt conf
[05:26] <esuave> got a question, so i can telnet on port 22 to my server but cannot ssh..
[05:26] <esuave> i am able to ssh for a few hours.. than when i come back to it.. it wont let me ssh.. it times out
[05:26] <esuave> any ideas?
[05:27] <esuave> same thing for httpd, port 80.. it times out.. but i can still telnet
[05:27] <esuave> its almost like the computer is going in to some kind of sleep mode or something?
[05:28] <sacarlson> esuave: maybe your running dhcp  and your ip changes over time
[05:29] <esuave> no cause i can still ping/telnet on those ports
[05:29] <esuave> so the IP is staying the same
[05:29] <esuave> so basically for me to get it to work again i have to reboot the server
[05:30]  * cruzin_cruzing slaps ZsoL around a bit with a large trout
[05:31] <sacarlson> esuave: how can you run two services on the same port 22?
[05:32] <esuave> no i can telnet on port 80 and port 22
[05:32] <esuave> but i cannot ssh to the box.. nor is httpd running
[05:32] <esuave> its almost like the computer has gone in to some kind of sleep mode?
[05:32] <dj_segfault> Are SATA drives hot pluggable in Ubuntu 10.04LTS?  Can I connect one after the system has started?
[05:33] <sacarlson> esuave: I guess look localy at the logs and see what activity it might be
[05:33] <paulus68> Hi, is there a way to retrieve data from a drive that is formatted with Darik's Boot and Nuke (DBAN) 1.0.7 or is this a waste of time
[05:35] <jguzikowski> Will installing by Wubi have any effect on performance/installation negatively?
[05:39] <Fyodorovna> jguzikowski, runs slightly slower and is a file in windows rather the a install to a partition.
[05:39] <sacarlson> paulus68: I have to assume it is designed for non recoverable so not very lickly
[05:40] <jguzikowski> Is it worth it to just try to install via USB/CD?
[05:40] <paulus68> sacarlson: ok thx
[05:41] <Fyodorovna> jguzikowski, That is a personal decision really.
[05:42] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver. I ju
[05:42] <frankpad> st need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[05:42] <jguzikowski> True,  just don't have a flash drive or a CD burner anymore so I thought I'd just stick with Wubi But I don't want to deal with performance issues if that's the case :)
[05:43] <Fyodorovna> jguzikowski, if your running windows being without a way to boot a recovery disc is not safe, as well as it backed up.
[05:44] <zykotick9> dj_segfault: i always had to reboot to connect my eSATA drive :|  hot swap SATA depends on your mothboard's sata controller, some will work others wont
[05:45] <dj_segfault> Ah.  Thanks.  I have a problem adding one more sata drive to my system and I wanted to see if it was a power problem by plugging in the new drive after boot, when everything is taking less power.  I guess I won't try it then.
[05:47] <jguzikowski> I've got everything backed up on Dropbox and am quick to format :P
[05:48] <paulus68> is there a good tutorial about ssh to work with keyfiles and which can be safely tested remotely(meaning I can only connect remotely to my server using putty) and make sure that I don't log myself out :p
[05:48] <jguzikowski> Anyway thanks for the help all, have a good night
[05:51] <Aesthenaut> I've been trying to run a few games in wine, both said to work perfectly wih it
[05:51] <Aesthenaut> none of them launch. Wine and Ubuntu are up to date nonbetas
[05:51] <Aesthenaut> as are the installers :<
[05:52] <Aesthenaut> I've marked them as executable
[05:52] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[05:52] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[05:53] <Aesthenaut> though that's likely more of a #wine problem. I will take it there
[05:58] <econnell-NotInX> is there a  nightly cd i can burn?
[05:59] <sambagirl> why would you want to burn nightly cd's? that would be 365 cd's with minimal changes in reality
[06:00] <econnell-NotInX> well... because i'm sitting at a terminal and x failed to load
[06:01] <sambagirl> oh so you just mean to burn 1 nightly cd meaning tonights correct?
[06:01] <econnell-NotInX> yes
[06:01] <econnell-NotInX> can someoen give a link for it?
[06:01] <sambagirl> ok
[06:01] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[06:01] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[06:02] <Fyodorovna> frankpad, a 10 min repost is asked for on this channel.
[06:02] <sambagirl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[06:02] <sambagirl> there you go
[06:02] <econnell-NotInX> sambagirl: thanks
[06:02] <sambagirl> your welcome
[06:02] <econnell-NotInX> is that the actual iso?
[06:03] <sambagirl> yes
[06:03] <sambagirl> it's there in the directory
[06:03] <Yigabu> I hate niggers!
[06:03] <Yigabu> However, I want one with a huge dick!
[06:03] <Yigabu> to fuck me in the ass!
[06:03] <FloodBot1> Yigabu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <sambagirl> what an ass
[06:04] <sambagirl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.iso
[06:04] <Yigabu> who here is a nigger?
[06:04] <sambagirl> dunno what your architecture is
[06:04] <sambagirl> what a pig
[06:04] <rhom> Is there the way to get the user name in a script in sudo mode?
[06:04] <Fyodorovna> !ops | Yigabu
[06:04] <econnell-NotInX> sambagirl: negative... that's an html link :(
[06:05] <sambagirl> well here is the directory
[06:05] <econnell-NotInX> i need the link to the amd64 iso
[06:05] <rhom> Is there the way to get the user name in  a script running on sudo mode?
[06:05] <sambagirl> ok
[06:05] <sambagirl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:06] <econnell-NotInX> sambagirl: perfect... thank you
[06:06] <sambagirl>  your welcome
[06:07] <Braden`> Hllo
[06:07] <Braden`> Hello even
[06:08] <sambagirl> hello
[06:08] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/nUuBw20t <--- I can't get grub-pc to uninstall and grub2 to reinstall
[06:10] <Fyodorovna> Braden`, you trying to reload grub2
[06:10] <sambagirl> i see amd64 will the xeon dual core stuff run that? since i dont see a intel64
[06:10] <Braden`> yea
[06:10] <sambagirl> ok
[06:10] <sambagirl> so eventhough these os's may say amd64 it covers all 64bit computers?
[06:10] <Braden`> I was trying to enable selinux, but it doesn't like my reiserfs
[06:11] <Fyodorovna> Braden`, apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common && apt-get install grub-pc grub-common
[06:11] <oooaaaooo> hi guys is there a release schedule on ubuntu's webpage?
[06:12] <Braden`>  GRUB failed to install to the following devices:   /dev/simfs
[06:15] <lawltoad> any one ever use apt-get build-deps ?
[06:15] <hydrox24> yes, but only rarely
[06:16] <lawltoad> any advice on how to keep my system clean after the fact? a way to get rid of them all
[06:16] <lawltoad> ?
[06:16] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[06:16] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[06:18] <hydrox24> lawltoad: if you type "apt-cache showsrc *package*" and then look under the build-deps line, that should be a good list of stuff to remove. Not the best solution, but it may be helpful.
[06:18] <ghost0xff> anyone here use ettercap on ubuntu?
[06:18] <ghost0xff> 10.04 specifically
[06:18] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: yes,why?
[06:18] <ghost0xff> hydrox24: because, for the life of me, I cant get it to do replace() in filters
[06:19] <ghost0xff> It sees the traffic, runs the filter, even runs the replace function, but the new packet never makes it to the net
[06:19] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: sorry, I am not that advanced with ettercap, only really at the script-kiddy level with things to do with ettercap...
[06:19] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: maybe turn on ip forwarding in the system?
[06:19] <ghost0xff> hydrox24: tried that :(
[06:20] <ghost0xff> both on and off
[06:20] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: make sure you did it right (always worth being thorough, no?) http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[06:20] <hydrox24> frankpad: looking into the issue now.
[06:20] <frankpad> Thank you
[06:21] <hydrox24> frankpad: is this your bug report? if not, try submitting that you are having a similar issue and also submit the info you pastebinned.
[06:21] <hydrox24> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/948773
[06:21] <ghost0xff> hydrox24: correct me if im wrong, but it should be disabled for ettercap to work locally
[06:21] <Jigaboo> I wan tot get fucked in the ass by five niggers
[06:21] <Jigaboo> until my asshole starts bleeding
[06:21] <Viking667> how do I reload the sound? It seems to be a bit ... stuck.
[06:21] <Jigaboo> then that one of the nigger dicks coverd in shit
[06:22] <Jigaboo> gets shoved into my mouth and down my throat
[06:22] <Jigaboo> that he pumps me until he is about to cum
[06:22] <Viking667> !ops racist jigaboo
[06:22] <Jigaboo> and he splashes my eyes with that sweet delicious ngiger cum
[06:22] <Viking667> sigh.
[06:22] <Braden`>  GRUB failed to install to the following devices:   /dev/simfs
, I didn't file that bug report but it seems someone else is having the same problem
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Braden`: Are you running Ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[06:23] <Braden`> Yep
[06:23] <Fyodorovna> Braden`, I don't know what your setup is it sounds like your making it custom I'm sure I can't help to be honest
[06:23] <Braden`> Its a vps
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Braden`: I'm not familiar with /dev/symfs but I don't think grub's boot sector is supposed to go there.
[06:24] <Viking667> sigh.
[06:25] <ollie_> my system doesnt resume after suspend, and my /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume file doesnt exist. what should i do?
[06:25] <drounse> i had to switch nic pci adapter and now i cant connect with an ethernet cable
[06:27] <soreau> drounse: did you disable the onboard NIC in the bios?
[06:28] <drounse> soreau no, but i havent used the onboard nic ever
[06:28] <hydrox24> Viking667: wow, just saw Jigaboos little rant... I wish I had Ops privileges sometimes...
[06:29] <soreau> drounse: you said you had to 'switch nic pci adapter', does that mean you were using another PCI NIC card to connect?
[06:29] <drounse> i used a gigabit adapter before and took it out and put in a different one
[06:29] <hydrox24> Braden`: you still there?
[06:30] <hydrox24> Braden`: I would recommend typing fdisk -l as root and seeing what comes up with the boot column flagged (with a "*")
[06:31] <hydrox24> olli: having issues with suspend/resume is common in linux, you'll need to look into the issue as something specific to you computer and even BIOS version.
[06:31] <Viking667> Oh, I don't have ops priv.
[06:31] <hydrox24> How can I apply for getting ops?
[06:31] <hydrox24> Viking667: I know.
[06:31] <soreau> hydrox24: try #ubuntu-ops
[06:32] <hydrox24> Viking667: I understand the whole !ops thing, just which I was an OP.
[06:32] <hydrox24> soreau: thanks!
[06:32] <Viking667> heh.
[06:35] <econnell-fail> yeah so.... my upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 is full of fail :)
[06:36] <frankpad> hydrox24, I specified that the same bug affects me and sumbitted the diagnostic logs as a comment. What can I do now?
[06:43] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[06:43] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[06:44] <hydrox24> frankpad: just wait on the bug report, it is still relatively fresh so there is still hope, however please don't re submit your issue like that, it is considered spam
[06:44] <frankpad> okay
[06:45] <hydrox24> wait atleast an hour so almost everyone active on the channel is different, more likely to get your problem solved too.
[06:45] <frankpad> Alright then. Thank you for the tip
[06:51] <Cache_Money> I just installed Ubuntu alongside my Windows 7 OS but when I went to restart I'm not presented with the option of choosing which OS I want to run.  It boots straight into Windows.  How do I get back into Ubuntu?
[06:52] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   reinstall gru
[06:52] <CFHowlett_> *grub*
[06:52] <infam0us> I can't get the resolution in ubuntu to 1280X1024, i installed the nvidia drivers. I also recently installed ubuntu for the first time, so i'm not too familiar with linux yet
[06:52] <CFHowlett_> !grub|Cache_Money
[06:52] <neonkidxy> Hey What does no apic mean?
[06:53] <Jon--> For some reason software centre isn't prompting me about distribution upgrade. I prefer to do them from there instead of using apt CLI. How can I force a GUI distribution upgrade?
[06:53] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_: I used a USB to install.  Should I go back into Ubuntu through the USB?
[06:53] <Flannel> Jon--: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[06:53] <CFHowlett_> Jon--   what versoin of ubuntu?
[06:53] <Jon--> Flannel, 11.04
[06:54] <Jon--> I want to move to 11.10
[06:54] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   yep, that's the preferred method.  I've done it..
[06:54] <neonkidxy> What does no acpi mean? I need it to install ubuntu, but now I'm trying to install linux mint.
[06:54] <CFHowlett_> !mint|neonkidxy
[06:55] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  what does the xxx mean in $ sudo grub-install /dev/XXX  ??
[06:55] <Jon--> CFHowlett_, Flannel, any ideas?
[06:56] <Flannel> Jon--: Are you completely up to date in 11.04?  Can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` ?
[06:56] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   well on mine, it's SDA.  Take a look at system>administration>disk utility to find your hdd's name
[06:57] <Muse> Cache_Money: your drive, /dev/sda for first drive of the disk, /dev/sdb for second one
[06:57] <Jon--> Flannel, I want to use GUI to do the dist upgrade. I am completely up to date besides that.
[06:57] <hydrox24> infam0us: have you looked at the nvidia setting specifically yet?
[06:57] <Flannel> Jon--: That's fine.  That command won't move you from 11.04 to 11.10, it's just an easy way for me to check on a few things that might be causing issues.
[06:57] <Jon--> Flannel, will do.
[06:57] <Flannel> Jon--: If you're up to date, it won't take more than a couple seconds, etc, etc.
[06:58] <Jon--> I understand :P
[06:58] <dead-laptop> When using SSH forwarding, what is the proper value to set $DISPLAY to on the host machine?
[06:58] <dead-laptop> Er, X11 forwarding.
[06:58] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  alright, thanks for the tips... I'm going back in
[06:58] <Jon--> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/KEEGZJ9h
[06:59] <Jon--> That is the end of the output
[06:59] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   see http://imagebin.org/204161
[06:59] <Jon--> And yes I know, I have a shit-ton of PPAs... I should clean them at some point ^_^
[07:02] <Jon--> Flannel, I know you might be in the middle of something but I'd like to get the dist upgrade rolling so I can go to sleep... apt-get install didn't prompt me to do one, lsb_release -a report 11.04.
[07:05] <Flannel> Jon--: You certainly have a bunch of PPAs and other sources making this long :)  I don't see any reason you wouldn't be updating.  Lets take a look at update-manager-core, pastebin `apt-cache policy update-manager-core`
[07:05] <pepiko> hello
[07:05] <CFHowlett_> pepiko   greetings
[07:06] <Jon--> flhttp://pastebin.com/1d0PcFyp
[07:06] <Jon--> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/1d0PcFyp
[07:06] <paulus68> is there a good tutorial about ssh to work with keyfiles and which can be safely tested remotely(meaning I can only connect remotely to my server using putty) and make sure that I don't log myself out :p
[07:07] <infam0us> hydrox21: can i pm you cause i was writing but i noticed that it was a bit too long and i don't wanna post it here
[07:07] <yoshimi-pink> anyone know how to log into wifi with command line?
[07:07] <Jon--> paulus68, As long as sshd isn't set to only allow keyed access (allow a password fallback), you won't lock yourself out. I don't know a tutorial though, no
[07:08] <paulus68> Jon--: how do you create this password fallback feature do you know?
[07:09] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  Here's a screen shot of my disk utility  imagebin.org/204162   I think possibly something went wrong during the partitioning process
[07:09] <ZenMaster> Anyone awake currently framiliar with Joomla2.5?
[07:09] <yoshimi-pink> I was wanting to connect to a wireless network with command line, witht he password and everything
[07:09] <Flannel> Jon--: Yeah, that's the right version.  Lets try forcing it... in a gnome-terminal (or whatever), gksudo update-manager -c --dist-upgrade
[07:09] <Flannel> -c tells it to explicitly check for new versions, the latter will also try to make that happen.
[07:09] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money    do you have more than 1 hard drive attached to this computer?
[07:10] <Ghrim> when i do swapon -a i get this error: swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory ....... whats going on?
[07:10] <Jon--> paulus68, I think as long as sshd_config has PasswordAuthentication yes  you should be fine.
[07:10] <paulus68> Jon--: ok
[07:10] <Cache_Money> I have one hard drive, 1TB, during the Ubuntu install I chose to have 512gb for Ubuntu and the rest for Windows (~465gb)
[07:11] <bluefrog> paulus68, create your key files    ssh-keygen -t rsa
[07:11] <Jon--> Flannel, You needed to quote that argument to gksudo, thought the c flag was for it :P
[07:11] <Jon--> Flannel, It's running now
[07:11] <bluefrog> paulus68, export it to your server   ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@server
[07:11] <Flannel> Jon--: eh, yeah, you do.  Wonder why you had to do that though.
[07:12] <Jon--> Flannel, Your sys is up to date...
[07:12] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   what happened when you tried to install grub to /dev/sda ??
[07:12] <Jon--> Flannel, To show you I am not crazy http://pastebin.com/TxEUMFyx
[07:13] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  I haven't tried it yet because I was trying to determine which /dev/xxx to install to.  Should I just do $ sudo grub-install /dev/sda  ??
[07:13] <Flannel> Jon--: Oh bother.  Ok... Lets check.... check the contents of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (text file), most of it is comments, what does the one line say?
[07:13] <Flannel> Jon--: No, you already showed that to me with the apt-get :)  (That's one reason I ask!)
[07:13] <paulus68> bluefrog: brb
[07:13] <Jon--> Flannel, jon@jonnixbox:~$ cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep -v '#' -> [DEFAULT]  Prompt=normal
[07:14] <Jon--> Looks like std config
[07:14] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   that would be my solution - of course i have a simpler arrangement than yours.  Go for it.  If it works, cool,  If not,you'll still have all your data, you'll just need to fumble a bit with grub's configuration to get ti bootin correctly
[07:15] <Flannel> Jon--: Yeah, I have no idea.  Just for yucks, lets give update-manager-core a try.  `sudo update-manager-core`  It'll prompt you a few times before doing any upgrades, so you can cancel it if you don't want to upgrade via command line.
[07:15] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  after running the above command it said "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[07:15] <Jon--> Flannel, Is there any added benefit to GUI? I feel like it's a more safe/streamlined process, but maybe I'm just being deceived by fancy gfx ;).
[07:16] <CFHowlett_> !grub>cache-money
[07:16] <monser> hello, I'm lucid and I'd like to have some of the latest libraries that are available only to the newest version of ubuntu.I ca download them as a packages.Is there a way to add repository or something that will give me the option to see them in package manager?
[07:16] <Jon--> Flannel, update-manager-core: command not found
[07:16] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   follow the tutorial for reinstalling grub after windows.
[07:17] <CFHowlett_> monser   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should capture all the packages currently in the stream
[07:17] <Flannel> Jon--: update-manager-core does the same things as regular update-manager... why don't you have it.
[07:17] <paulus68> bluefrog: back little question since this should be for a backup user do I need to enter a pass or not?
[07:17] <Flannel> Wait, wait wait.
[07:17] <Jon--> Flannel, I haven't manually removed any of the software center/update packages. I don't know.
[07:18] <Jon--> Flannel, apt says it is installed, but it's not on path. You sure you call it with update-manager-core ?
[07:18] <Flannel> Jon--: Oh, right.  I'm being an idiot.   do-release-upgrade
[07:18] <Jon--> Thank you.. :P
[07:18] <bluefrog> paulus68, depends if you want to use a paasword/passphrase
[07:18] <mi3> are gtk 3 themes backward compatible with gtk 2 ?
[07:19] <paulus68> bluefrog: the purpose of this excercise is to gain access to the server in order to allow the remote pc to store the backup to with rsnapshot
[07:20] <bluefrog> paulus68, well it doesn't tell me if you want to use a password or not
[07:20] <hydrox24> mi3: I don't believe so
[07:20] <Jon--> Flannel, Will this prompt before actually doing the dist upgrade?
[07:20] <Flannel> Jon--: It should ask you a variety of thigns, yes.
[07:20] <mi3> ok, thanks hydrox24.
[07:20] <Jon--> Flannel, Failed to read mirror file... This a serious issue?
[07:20] <Flannel> Jon--: Official upgrade notes say you need the -d flag (to either update-manager or do-release-upgrade) but... you really shouldn't at this point in the game (at least, not if -d still means what it used to mean/manpage says it means)
[07:21] <paulus68> bluefrog: I prefer with password want to make sure that I don't have to enter my password each time rsnapshot changes a directory for example
[07:21] <Jon--> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/kJRjyVyL
[07:21] <bluefrog> paulus68, you say the opposite in the same sentence. assume it's without so don't enter anything when asked for a passphrase/password
[07:22] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[07:23] <Jon--> Flannel, Also getting a shit-ton of Err on PPAs... Is this because of third party natty PPAs?
[07:23] <Jon--> Screw it, doing the upgrade anyway. If my laptop bricks you'll be hearing from me soon ;).
[07:24] <Flannel> Jon--: PPAs don't upgrade well, so they should all be disabled (automatically), failed to read mirror is just a warning, and probably related.
[07:25] <Jon--> Yeah, I noticed it was just a warn, but I wasn't sure what it meant.
[07:25] <Flannel> Jon--: Shouldn't cause any bricks, unless you're using a PPA for some sort of core system functionality (which you shouldn't be doing)
[07:25] <Jon--> One last ?, what's the package to get Gnome classic in one package on 11.10 again? I know it was all nicely rolled into one package
[07:25] <Flannel> !notunity | Jon--
[07:26] <Jon--> I have backports and getdeb, but neither should have core sys functionality packages :P
[07:26] <Flannel> I don't know unity, so that factoid is all I know, someone else can help if you have questions though, I'm sure.
[07:26] <Cache_Money> What happens when I delete a partition?
[07:26] <Jon--> Seems like all you have to do is install gnome-panel and it'll give you the fallback mode.
[07:26] <Jon--> Thnx.
[07:26] <Flannel> Jon--: That's what that factoid seems to say, yes :)
[07:27] <Fyodorovna> !details | Cache_Money
[07:27] <Peytonien> If someone could help me with this problem it would be great. I installed Ubuntu 11.10 from a CD on Windows 7(I had to use nomodeset) When I boot up using Ubuntu(again having to use nomodeset) I get a console that stops at "checking battery" I've left it like that overnight with no change. If anyone could help I would really appreciate it.
[07:28] <Jon--> Flannel, In return for your niceness, I'll do some support in here for a bit, then sleepy times :D
[07:28] <Cache_Money> I'm having trouble reinstalling GRUB.  I'm wondering if I can delete what's on a partition and just reinstall Ubuntu on it again
[07:28] <irish_> hi
[07:29] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   NOT the way to do it - why delete?  just reinstall, select the partition and format it.
[07:29] <Jon--> Cache_Money, Did you try to do a grub-install /dev/sda ?
[07:29] <CFHowlett_> irish_   greetings
[07:29] <Cache_Money> Jon--   Yes, and I couldn't get it to work.
[07:29] <monser> how to have latest libraries on lucid?
[07:30] <monser> I want libsqlite>3.0
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: What problem are you having specifically when trying to re-install grub? What guide are you following?
[07:30] <monser> there are only libsqlite3.0 in lucid repo
[07:30] <Jon--> Cache_Money, Then you should reinstall from the media (CD/DVD/USB) and select the existing partition and format it as necessary
[07:30] <paulus68> bluefrog: getting the error no identities found?
[07:31] <Jon--> Cache_Money, Though you may not need to be this extreme, please note that you will lose all data and configuration on the drive. It may be better to troubleshoot through it then to reinstall.
[07:31] <Peytonien> Can anyone help me with a problem I've been having?
[07:31] <Jon--> monser, You will need to find a third party PPA containing it.
[07:31] <Jon--> !ask | Peytonien
[07:31] <monser> what is ppa?
[07:31] <Cache_Money> Jordan_U: I'm following  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[07:32] <monser> !PPA
[07:32] <Peytonien> If someone could help me with this problem it would be great. I installed Ubuntu 11.10 from a CD on Windows 7(I had to use nomodeset) When I boot up using Ubuntu(again having to use nomodeset) I get a console that stops at "checking battery" I've left it like that overnight with no change. If anyone could help I would really appreciate it.
[07:32] <Jon--> ubottu, ppa | monser
[07:32] <infam0us> I was told to use xrandr to  see if that would solve my resolution issue but since i'm new to ubuntu/linux i don't know how to even bring up xrandr (miss the simplicity of certain aspects such as this of windows, but i'll soon learn to use linux)
[07:32] <Peytonien> !help
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: Well that's the problem. Unfortunately that guide is completely wrong. I'm somewhat amazed that such a basic mistake was made in such a prominant guide.
[07:33] <monser> If I uninstall them add libsqlite and libsqlite-dev from packages, would that work?
[07:33] <Cache_Money> Jon- -  I don't have any data to lose because I just installed Ubuntu.  I'm just having trouble loading the OS when rebooting.  It jumps straight into Windows
[07:33] <Cache_Money> Jordan_U  What do you suggest I do?
[07:33] <monser> Is a dev-library used for compiling?
[07:34] <monser> what are the differencs between library and library-dev?
[07:34] <Jon--> monser, You shouldn't need to uninstall anything you currently have. Find a ppa for lucid containing the version of sqlite you want, add it, then do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. The more recent v. should be installed. See ubottu's note about the dangerous of PPA's... (they're relatively safe)
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: Follow this guide instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[07:34] <bluefrog> paulus68, pastebin all the commands you issued and their results, please. ll as well the permissions of your remote user .ssh/ files
[07:35] <Cache_Money> Jordan_U  Thanks the resource.  I'll give it a try
[07:35] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   My apologies for sending bad advice.  Of COURSE you've got grub2!  *facepalm*
[07:35] <bluefrog> paulus68, .ssh/authorized_keys should be rw for the user only
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: You're welcome.
[07:36] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_  No worries
[07:36] <Jon--> paulus68, You can set the appropriate permissions on authorized_keys using chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server.
[07:37] <fnsoxt> 有中国人吗
[07:37] <Jordan_U> !jp | fnsoxt
[07:37] <CFHowlett_> !cn|fnsoxt
[07:38] <Jon--> Jordan_U, That be Chinese :P
[07:38]  * CFHowlett_ bet it's chinese
[07:38] <fnsoxt> ubottu: thanks
[07:39] <fnsoxt> wow,it is a bot
[07:39] <paulus68> bluefrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890323/
[07:39] <Jon--> fnsoxt, We had it type something by doing !command in chat. It's useful. #ubuntu-cn can help you in Chinese.
[07:40] <monser> !PPA
[07:40] <fnsoxt> thanks, i see
[07:41] <fnsoxt> !cn
[07:41] <fnsoxt> !cp
[07:42] <bluefrog> paulus68, an interesting thing is to have a user on your server...
[07:42] <bluefrog> paulus68, so either you change fileserver or you create this user
[07:43] <paulus68> bluefrog: fileserver is a user on the server
[07:43] <bluefrog> no
[07:44] <bluefrog> hang on
[07:44] <paulus68> bluefrog: yes it is, but I can use another user aswel
[07:46] <bluefrog> no wasn't this problem sry
[07:46] <paulus68> bluefrog: no problem
[07:46] <bluefrog> make sure you have .ssh/id*
[07:47] <bluefrog> as if the ssh import didn' tfind the rsa stuff
[07:47] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[07:48] <bluefrog> paulus68, get rid of this -p
[07:48] <Pikkachu> how to delete packages form the PPA?
[07:49] <paulus68> bluefrog: do I note down the full directory like /home/rsnapshot/.ssh/id_rsa? or do I do this differently also not sure where to put the portnr -p flag since I have to use a different port to access my machine ?
[07:49] <bluefrog> paulus68, dunno, but right now the -p makes it fail
[07:50] <chris_> hi. i have a wireless card in a laptop. installed the windows driver and the "Windows Wireless Drivers" app shows the driver and says the hardware is attached. /etc/modules.conf shows an alias for wlan0 to ndiswrapper, but iwconfig shows no wlan0. any ideas on how to get this working?
[07:50] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok I will try to google it
[07:50] <bluefrog> paulus68, you can scp the file anyway
[07:50] <CFHowlett_> Chris is this a broadcom card?
[07:51] <chris_> CFHowlett: it's an old belkin airgo
[07:51] <paulus68> bluefrog: where do I need to copy it to as in which directory on the server?
[07:51]  * CFHowlett_ backs away with hands up
[07:51] <CFHowlett_> Chris_ good luck.
[07:52] <chris_> CFHowlett_, heh
[07:52] <bluefrog> paulus68, /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys.  and this file must be set as rw for owner only
[07:53] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[07:57] <AnonArgSurf> hello
[07:57] <AnonArgSurf> some body_
[07:59] <bluefrog> paulus68, ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub “-p 2222 user@host”
[07:59] <bluefrog> paulus68, use double quote for host info
[08:01] <paulus68> bluefrog: ssh: Could not resolve hostname \342\200\234-p8001: Name or service not known
[08:03] <bluefrog> paulus68, single quote then
[08:03] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[08:05] <paulus68> bluefrog: done
[08:08] <paulus68> bluefrog: how do you make the connection using the keys?
[08:10] <Jimu> so I went to change my Ubuntu 11.10 logon sound to the losing entry Blog-Sound-2.ogg, and found apparently there's an ID for a sound file? and how do i set that relation?
[08:10] <bluefrog> paulus68, ssh user@server shouldn't ask you a password anymore
[08:11] <paulus68> bluefrog: Agent admitted failure to sign using the key
[08:12] <paulus68> bluefrog: and then request the password again
[08:12] <bluefrog> paulus68, dunno then. check your file permissions. this is stright forward so if you have problems you may have a non-standard setup
[08:13] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok Ill check
[08:14] <Jimu> please help, how does the Ubuntu login sound happen? There's an event?
[08:14] <bluefrog> paulus68, try unset SSH_AUTH_SOCK on your client
[08:15] <gear4> Who knows how to host a flash site in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:17] <paulus68> bluefrog: where can i find it?
[08:17] <bluefrog> paulus68, what? it's an env variable. the command clears it
[08:17] <Jimu> seriously, you run canberra-gtk-play with an --id="login-sound" or whatever, but id is not a filename, it's an event ID or something, and where do you set the event ID to the sound file you want to play?
[08:19] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok where client is the server right?
[08:20] <bluefrog> paulus68, no a client is a client, a server is a server
[08:20] <bluefrog> red is not blue :)
[08:20] <paulus68> bluefrog: I'll rephrase the client is the pc that wants to have access to the server right?
[08:20] <bluefrog> correct
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> what service are they connecting to?
[08:21] <Braden`> hydrox24:  Typing:  fdisk -l  outputted:  cannot open /proc/partitions
[08:21] <paulus68> bluefrog: Enter passphrase for key '/home/rsnapshot/.ssh/id_rsa':
[08:22] <gear4> Who knows how to host a flash site in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:22] <bluefrog> paulus68, that's because you created the key with a pass, no?
[08:22] <paulus68> bluefrog: yes
[08:22] <bluefrog> so?
[08:23] <bluefrog> paulus68, right now it is not asking for the user's password on the server but for the passphrase of the key
[08:23] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok what do I need to do to skip this step
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> gear4: it'll just be a web server but with code to load the flash content (files)
[08:23] <bluefrog> paulus68, have a passphrase less key
[08:24] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[08:24] <paulus68> brb
[08:24] <gear4> ActionParsnip, What code ? Where would it be ?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> gear4: whatever html code is used, it won't be any different to a server under windows, its just html
[08:29] <plouffe> gear4, you'd have to install the Apache webserver
[08:29] <gear4> Installed
[08:30] <aleksey> register vfvfytujh.q alexeybulash@gmail.com
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> !register | aleksey
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[08:33] <plouffe> gear4, look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ find DocumentRoot in these files, it should contain the path to where you put the files
[08:33] <gear4> kk
[08:42] <gear4> Thanks :)
[08:52] <gasbakid> hi everyone
[08:52] <bluefrog> paulus68, have a passphrase less key
[08:53] <gasbakid> how to increase the disk space of my "/" partition from my "/home" partition...is there any good solution for that ??
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: have you tried to clear space from / first?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: uninstalling old unused kernels gains a lot of space
[08:55] <gasbakid> greattttt tnx ActionParsnip..havent thnik of that
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: uname -a    will list installed kernels.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: dpkg -l | grep linux-image   will show installed kernels, do not remove the package without version numbers and don't unintsall the running kernel
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: you can remove the others and get ~120Mb per kernel
[08:57] <gasbakid> yess dude thanks again man great job
[08:59] <Meteorskies> Hello, I'd need some help please. I've installed Ubuntu and seven in dualboot today, but there's something I don't understand: one of my hdd (in SATA set to IDE in the BIOS) no longer appears in the BIOS (hence not in seven) but still appears in ubuntu and is accessible there
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: also install bleachbit and run it as root and user, have as many apps closed as possible and it can clear more space but avoid options saying they will take a long time, also watch settings on apps or it will remove what you want to keep
[09:00] <eyueseyo> hi
[09:01] <gasbakid> ok ActionParsnip bleachbit..
[09:03] <[[thufir]]> I've done apt   full-upgrade, but does that update all packages?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: is full-upgrade an option of apt-get?
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Meteorskies: There isn't anything that Ubuntu can do to prevent Windows from accessing a drive, and just because a drive is not accessible in your BIOS does *not* neccessarily mean that it won't be accessible in Windows. It's likely that the same problem is preventing both from accessing the drive though. What that problem could be however I don't know. You might try asking in ##windows.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: if you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     it will upgrade everything to the latest on your available repos
[09:04] <triscuit> How do I launch a text document with bash?
[09:05] <[[thufir]]> hmm
[09:05] <[[thufir]]> thanks.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: is it a script?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: or just a text file to edit?
[09:05] <triscuit> No , I haven't gotten that far, just playing around
[09:06] <triscuit> just text file to edit
[09:06] <Meteorskies> Jordan_U: my problem is that I'd like to access this drive both on linux and windows, but windows doesn't see it while ubuntu does see it
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: can you clarify 'launch' please
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> ok
[09:06] <triscuit> launch in the gui
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Meteorskies: I understand that.
[09:06] <triscuit> actually nvmd I can ediy with vi
[09:06] <triscuit> I forgot
[09:06] <Meteorskies> Jordan_U: ok, thanks
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: you can use:  gedit filename    if you have a desktop, or:  nano filename    if you want to edit in cli
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Meteorskies: You're welcome.
[09:06] <WilsonBradley> Trying to figure out how to turn off Firewall in Ubuntu , to see if that is the problem..
[09:06] <triscuit> ok thanks, I'l try that to
[09:07] <shalivan> kenet
[09:11] <drounse> how do install a .img file to a usb
[09:12] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, is there anyway to setup an "ubuntu one" client in debian 6 (squeeze)?
[09:13] <drounse> paranoidphreak maybe use the ubuntu repos? but it might break your system
[09:13] <szal> since the target system is Debian, #debian on irc.oftc.net would be the right place to ask ;)
[09:13] <zykotick9> paranoidphreak: you might want to try asking in the #ubuntuone channel
[09:13] <szal> or what zykotick9 said
[09:14] <paranoidphreak> thanks.....i'll do that
[09:16] <dsenator> hi all
[09:17] <dsenator> trying to root my android in ubuntu, I followed intstructions here https://github.com/GalaxyICS/android/wiki/How-to-install-ADB-(Android-Debug-Bridge)-on-Linux but  on step 9 using #HTC the step 10 gave did not give me permission still
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[09:18] <Jordan_U> drounse: What is the .img file of specifically? You can probably use dd, but if you make a mistake with dd you could *destroy all the contents of your hard drive*, so if you do decide to go that route be VERY careful.
[09:18] <dsenator> all I wanted to do was bacome root and remove some installed app like the one that sends sms without asking yu
[09:18] <dsenator> CAIVS.APK
[09:19] <drounse> Jordan_U i tried dd but i downloaded imagewriter and it worked, i needed to install pfsense to a usb
[09:19] <dsenator> ??
[09:19] <DropsOfSerenity> for those who use HUD: I play HoN and while playing there is a shortcut to use an item, it's a fullscreen game, and the shortcut is alt-q when i press alt, hud pops up, forcing the fullscreen application into windowed, then when hud closes, my application is left in windowed mode, how do I disable HUD in fullscreen applications? asked in ubuntu+1 but wanted to check here also
[09:19] <dsenator> by the way whats the way to type peoples name quicker here?
[09:20] <dsenator> i forgot
[09:20] <drounse> earlier i took the nic out of my desktop and switched it, now i cant connect with my ethernet cable
[09:20] <szal> !tab | drounse
[09:20] <Jordan_U> drounse: OK, it sounds like your problem is solved then. In the future if you solve your problem after asking a question it's generally good to say that you've done so (maybe with a brief description of what you did) so that people know that you no longer need help.
[09:20] <szal> wrong nick, but you get the idea ;)
[09:20] <drounse> Jordan_U i know i literally finished as you responded
[09:21] <Jordan_U> drounse: Fair enough :)
[09:21] <drounse> Jordan_U now i get to start up pfsense :)
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> drounse: if you run:  sudo dhclient eth0    does it get DHCP ok?
[09:22] <drounse> ActionParsnip, RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> drounse: if you delete the: Auto eth0 from network manager   then delete the DHCP client from your router, it may help
[09:23] <dsenator> how do yu type a persons name quickly here
[09:23] <DJones> !tab | dsenator
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: type a few letters of the nick and hit TAB
[09:24] <drounse> dsenator start typing a name and press tab
[09:24] <dsenator> cool thank
[09:24] <dsenator> do any of yu have any idead why i cld not get permission to root
[09:24] <dsenator> android
[09:25] <dsenator> followed here https://github.com/GalaxyICS/android/wiki/How-to-install-ADB-(Android-Debug-Bridge)-on-Linux
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[09:25] <dsenator> but on 9 and 10 after that there was no permission
[09:25] <dsenator> ahmadalza, i am on same page
[09:25] <ahmadalza> dsenator: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
[09:25] <drounse> ActionParsnip, like shut off dhcp from router?
[09:26] <Wulf> Hello
[09:26] <dsenator> dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[09:26] <dsenator> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': Operation not permitted
[09:26] <dsenator> ahmadalza, i got dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[09:26] <dsenator> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': Operation not permitted
[09:26] <ahmadalza> dsenator: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
[09:27] <dsenator> ahmadalza,  what do you  mean by what yu just typed?
[09:27] <ahmadalza> dsenator: Error: "what" is not a valid command.
[09:27] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[09:27] <Wulf> I have Ubuntu running in dual-screen (?) mode. After hitting some key combination on the right screen some magnification was active. The area around this mouse cursor is magnified a lot and the screen is basically unusable. Which key combo / feature was it?
[09:28] <dsenator> anyone to help?
[09:28] <WilsonBradley> Trying to use Deluge . I have UpnP enabled on Router and Deluge, but still getting a Red! when clicking-check Port.. Is this normal behavior in Deluge?
[09:32] <dsenator> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': Operation not permitted
[09:32] <dsenator> i need help
[09:32] <dsenator> denied permission
[09:32] <bluefrog> dsenator use sudo
[09:32] <jasonmsp> hey all.  How do I force gnome-terminal geomentry to position based on absolute geometry?  Unity I think is forcing a gap on the left side next to my launcher that I don't want.
[09:33] <dsenator> i assume no one here know the solution to this, cos no one is talking\
[09:34] <bluefrog> dsenator use sudo
[09:34] <bluefrog> second time
[09:34] <[[thufir]]> 404 error when installing flash:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1526176
[09:34] <ahmadalza> Title: Bash Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[09:34] <dsenator> thanks bluefrog let me try that
[09:37] <mr_ubuntu_12> Need quick search tool for file names and directory names in ubuntu | like Everything.exe in Windows ...
[09:37] <dsenator> bluefrog, not responding
[09:37] <Krissed> mr_ubuntu_12 uhmm nautilus can do that i belive.
[09:37] <Krissed> or locate if youre in terminal
[09:38] <dsenator> bluefrog, it says sudo: cannot get working directory
[09:38] <Wulf> mr_ubuntu_12: find
[09:38] <Krissed> ah yeah find..
[09:38] <bluefrog> dsenator, write the full command
[09:39] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[09:40] <dsenator> ???
[09:41] <ibiwor> What's the difference between gnome-shell and ubuntu-desktop? How are they different?
[09:42] <Wulf> both suck. Oh, you want differences, sorry :-)
[09:42] <Wulf> ibiwor: just try both and see for yourself.
[09:43] <ServerSage> Isn't one gnome and the other unity?
[09:43] <ibiwor> !info gnome-shell
[09:43] <[[thufir]]> exactly
[09:43] <[[thufir]]> if you like a "normal" desktop, try gnome-shell. or xfce, et. al.
[09:44] <jasonmsp> dsenator: use 'sudo chmod' like bluefrog said
[09:44] <ibiwor> [[thufir]]: Well, then a shell and desktop environment is different? Shell is confusing me with terminal too
[09:44] <[[thufir]]> it's just a desktop.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ServerSage: unity is a shell for gnome
[09:46] <mr_ubuntu_12> thanks Krissed but nautilus doesn't make any index like "Everything.exe"
[09:46] <[[thufir]]> ibiwor: I sent you a screenshot
[09:47] <dsenator> jasonmsp, doing that i get dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ sudo chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[09:47] <dsenator> sudo: cannot get working directory
[09:47] <dsenator> jasonmsp, pls notice the very first line of my terminal as pasted it end in tools$
[09:48] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[09:48] <ibiwor> [[thufir]]: Sorry, could you imagebin that?
[09:48] <JelloPop> [[thufir]]: I was not aware of such a difference that is why I use gnome3 + mate in linux mint.. I would have figured the gnome shell would be easier to use
[09:48] <jasonmsp> dsenator: do all the folders in the path exist?
[09:48] <bluefrog> dsenator, ~/android-sdk-linux/tools  still exists in your computer?
[09:49] <Krissed> mr_ubuntu_12 in terminal you can do "locate *.exe" to find all files ending in .exe
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: what if you try a different icon theme?
[09:49] <Krissed> krambiorix uhmm there is some command to restore gnome to default. goole that
[09:50] <Krissed> ActionParsnip icon theme ?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: yes
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> mr_ubuntu_12: are you using Precise?
[09:50] <dsenator> bluefrog, and jasonmsp pls tell me how to check fro that?
[09:50] <geirha> Krissed: locate '*.exe'  the pattern should be quoted, else it fails if you have .exe files in your current dir.
[09:50] <jasonmsp> dsenator: use ls
[09:51] <Krissed> geriha i meant the " " as what he should write in terminal to find all .exe files. not that he should actually write the " "
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/    when the servers come back up. Much easier to just install and use xfce
[09:51] <geirha> Krissed: I understood that the "" wasn't shell quotes, but the pattern should nontheless be quoted.
[09:52] <Krissed> Actionparsnip ive costumized my ubuntu to look like classic already. im good
[09:52] <Krissed> geirha ah ok
[09:52] <dsenator> jasonmsp, ls doesnt give me anything in return
[09:53] <valdur55> Hello. I have Bus 002 Device 122: ID 0603:1031 Novatek Microelectronics Corp. and cursor doesn't work
[09:53] <dsenator> although lsusb gives the list of usd inuse
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: is it a touchpad, or a mouse?
[09:53] <dsenator> ls wont give anyting
[09:53] <jasonmsp> dsenator: type this - cd  /etc/udev/rules.d
[09:53] <valdur55> ActionParsnip, mouse
[09:53] <jasonmsp> without the -
[09:54] <dsenator> jasonmsp, nothing happens
[09:54] <dsenator> did yu notice i am int he tools$?
[09:54] <dsenator> do i  need to drop that first
[09:54] <jasonmsp> dsenator: i suspect something did.  what is your current working directory
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: is it an HP wireless mouse?
[09:55] <jasonmsp> dsenator: pwd
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: you aren't alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1667460.html
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[09:55] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: if you pull the device out, wiat a few seconds, then push it back in. Is it ok?
[09:56] <dsenator> jasonmsp, this is what i have in my terminal right now dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:/etc/udev/rules.d$
[09:56] <jasonmsp> dsenator:
[09:56] <jasonmsp> dsenator: correct
[09:56] <jasonmsp> now type ls
[09:56] <dsenator> ok
[09:57] <dsenator> 10-vboxdrv.rules  51-android.rules~       70-persistent-net.rules
[09:57] <dsenator> 51-android.rules  70-persistent-cd.rules  README
[09:57] <dsenator> jasonmsp,
[09:57] <dsenator> i have 2 51-android-rules
[09:57] <dsenator> jasonmsp,
[09:57] <bluefrog> no only one
[09:57] <bluefrog> other is backup
[09:58] <jasonmsp> your intial command was missing the ~ at the end of the android file.  Hence, it doesn't believe the file is there which is why you are getting the error.
[09:58] <dsenator> ok
[09:58] <dsenator> now whats the solution to that
[09:58] <jasonmsp> suggest you go to the man files or google and start reading up on basic linux commands..
[09:59] <dsenator> i can read up that later but for now what the way out
[09:59] <valdur55>  Still nothing..
[09:59] <valdur55> ActionParsnip, yea :) I know . I am not alone
[09:59] <llutz> dsenator: "cd ; sudo chmod +r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules"
[10:00] <ibiwor> 11.10*
[10:00] <ibiwor> How can I install XFCE shell but not xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 11.104 I'm using
[10:01] <dsenator> llutz, tried it now, nothing
[10:01] <llutz> dsenator: "nothing" waht? no error = success
[10:01] <nothingspecial> ibiwor, install xfce4
[10:02] <jasonmsp> dsenator: it probably worked - no news is good news
[10:02] <dsenator> just stares at me
[10:02] <dsenator> no result
[10:02] <dsenator> ok jasonmsp
[10:02] <jasonmsp> dsenator: man ls
[10:02] <dsenator> man ls or just ls
[10:02] <jasonmsp> man ls
[10:03] <dsenator> jasonmsp, i got a list of stuffs and description
[10:03] <jasonmsp> dsenator: read it
[10:03] <bluefrog> a nice galaxy bricked soon..
[10:04] <jasonmsp> bluefrog: ha!
[10:04] <jasonmsp> I think I may have found a bug in compiz, window placement.
[10:04] <dsenator> jasonmsp, ok read it
[10:04] <jasonmsp> can someone confirm?
[10:04] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: So installing xfce4 package will give me DE and xubuntu-desktp shell?
[10:05] <nothingspecial> ibiwor, it will give you xfce, thunar and a few other things without the music player and other alternatives
[10:06] <rtt> ...........
[10:06] <mr_ubuntu_12> ActionParsnip what is Precise how to use it?
[10:06] <mr_ubuntu_12> is it Precise Pangolin?
[10:06] <jasonmsp> (11.10)  Compiz - Windows Placement - Fixed Window Placement - add a new fixed position without keep in workarea checked and the rule comes up as checked.
[10:06] <locsmif> XFCE is not a DE is it?
[10:06] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: I'm actually confused what's shell and DE in xubuntu-desktop, xfce4
[10:07] <oCean> mr_ubuntu_12: yes, "precise" is the codename for ubuntu 12.04 (currently still beta and offtopic for this channel)
[10:07] <bluefrog> jasonmsp, confirm what? gnome-terminal --geometry 50x2+0+0  puts it where it should be.
[10:07] <dsenator> jasonmsp, ?
[10:07] <dsenator> i read it
[10:08] <jasonmsp> bluefrog: my terminal windows are showing up with a gap that is the same size as the launcher on the left side.
[10:08] <bluefrog> jasonmsp, yeah ok sry
[10:08] <nothingspecial> xfce is not a shell, it is a desktop environment, which is a set of packages that give you a useable operating system with a graphical user interface
[10:08] <nothingspecial> sort of
[10:08] <jasonmsp> Relative window is set at 0, 0 but the absolute has it adjusted to the right for the launcher width.
[10:08] <jasonmsp> trying to stop the gap from being placed.
[10:08] <bluefrog> jasonmsp, the joy of 11.10 I believe. haven't seen that on12.04
[10:09] <jasonmsp> so is the 'keep in workarea' check a bug?
[10:09] <bluefrog> dunno
[10:09] <jasonmsp> whether it is checked or unchecked the rule comes up as checked.
[10:10] <dsenator> jasonmsp, i am stock on this manual page if yu dont tell me what to do
[10:10] <jasonmsp> dsenator: read it and learn about linux commands
[10:11] <mr_ubuntu_12> hi OCean , is there any tool available for fast search in ubuntu 11.10?
[10:11] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: Thanks.. apt-cache search lists xfce4 - Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment and xubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu desktop system. So what exactly is a shell? :)
[10:11] <oCean> mr_ubuntu_12: have you tried the  locate  command in terminal?
[10:12] <bluefrog> locate needs an updatedb first
[10:13] <locsmif> Hmm, FloodBot1 defective.
[10:13] <nothingspecial> ibiwor, a sort of layer on top of a desktop environment that lets you interact with it
[10:13] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: Actually this part for shell - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_%28computing%29#Graphical_.28GUI.29_shells - confused me with DE
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[10:14] <dsenator> jasonmsp, thanks for the help and suggestion, how do i get out of my present situation before adding more complexity, this type of thing is what yu study over a while not on one sitting
[10:15] <jasonmsp> dsenator: if you use the ls command you can see whether or not your permissons are set the way you want.
[10:15] <dsenator> commands wont help me right now, i can memorise all the commands but what i need is a direction on what to do if you know it
[10:15] <dsenator> Jason, yeah but i cant even get out of this manual page you sent me to
[10:16] <dsenator> jasonmsp,
[10:16] <plouffe> dsenator, type q
[10:16] <dsenator> i cant even get out of this manual page yu banished me to
[10:16] <dsenator> i did
[10:16] <dsenator> i already typed q
[10:16] <dsenator> it doesnt take me back to the original page
[10:17] <dsenator> ok jasonmsp  so i finally got out and ls seemed to work
[10:17] <dsenator> what do i look out for to knowi amon track
[10:17] <locsmif> mr_ubuntu_12: in Kubuntu, you have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soprano_%28KDE%29
[10:17] <blankon8> Title: Soprano (KDE) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[10:18] <mr_ubuntu_12> thanks locsmif i am checking it
[10:18] <dsenator> jasonmsp, yeah there is an android-sdk-linus there
[10:18] <Whitebird> Hello
[10:18] <locsmif> mr_ubuntu_12: and: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strigi  ... might be available in Gnome Ubuntu too
[10:18] <Whitebird> How can I edit the hosts file so I can loopback whitebird.edu to 127.0.0.1 ?
[10:18] <blankon8> Title: Strigi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[10:19] <locsmif> Whitebird: edit it after 127.0.0.1 's localhost entry
[10:19] <locsmif> On the same line
[10:19] <Whitebird> just whitebird.edu?
[10:19] <jasonmsp> dsenator: can i PM you?
[10:19] <locsmif> yeah
[10:19] <Whitebird> thanks
[10:19] <dsenator> not everyone here is on the same level, so a careful explanation of issues might help
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> locsmif: just add a new entry
[10:19] <locsmif> ActionParsnip: you want Whitebird
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> locsmif: no need to reboot after either :)
[10:20] <dsenator> jasonmsp, yes pls pm me
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> oh yeah, d'oh
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: ^ see above
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: you can make anything point to any IP you want. I have a LOT pointing to localhost :)
[10:20] <Whitebird> haha thanks
[10:21] <Whitebird> my problem was that i thought something.something wasn't possible
[10:21] <Whitebird> i thought only plain words
[10:21] <Whitebird> hostnames*
[10:21] <Whitebird> thanks guys
[10:21] <locsmif> np
[10:21] <ouyes> I get a rewritable dvd , do I need to erase it before I burn something new
[10:21] <locsmif> Make sure microsoft.com is in there too.
[10:21] <Foo273> Hello
[10:22] <locsmif> ouyes: no.
[10:22] <Whitebird> hehe
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890433/   stops unnecessary stuff on web pages :)
[10:22] <Foo273> I've followed this guide on how to install eclipse http://flurdy.com/docs/eclipse/install.html
[10:22] <Whitebird> mind = blown
[10:22] <Foo273> however I don't get a gnome menu item for eclipse
[10:22] <Whitebird> got adblock though ^^
[10:22] <Whitebird> good for android maybe
[10:24] <ahhughes_> how do I bring up the HUD? I've seen video's and blog, but none mention how I invoke it
[10:24] <charmking> Hi everyone, very urgent problem.  I used a wubi installed 11.10 for few months, but had space limitations, so, i used wubi-      but in the process, i dont know what happened but lost everything. In windows in C:/ubuntu/disks there is a fuse file with the same size as previous partition, can i recover my data?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: just how I roll
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> charmking: use your backups
[10:25] <charmking> ActionParsnip: Where will i find them?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> charmking: wherever you made them, its not an automatic process
[10:27] <jasonmsp> ahhughes_: alt-tab??
[10:27] <charmking> ActionParsnip: btw i used ActionParsnip wubi-add-virtual-disk for increasing partition size,  but now in the ubuntu root, i find home.backup, but its empty, it has a lost+found folder, which i am not able to open
[10:27] <ahhughes_> HUD is in 11.10 yes?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> charmking: you may be able to mount the image in LiveCD.
[10:27] <basic123> @ping
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: no, its precise only
[10:28] <ahhughes_> well that might explain it
[10:29] <ahhughes_> consider how hooked I was on Launchy on windows xp, this is the next evolution :) I look forward to it.
[10:29] <cyberdo> ubuntu server 11.04... Where can I find out which packages gets installed by default?
[10:29] <cyberdo> I have a minimal installation that I need to get into a similar shape as a default install
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: its due out soon :)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: if you wanted a desktop OS, why did you install the server OS?
[10:30] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[10:31] <ahhughes_> next question is, I have my laptop (ubuntu) and desktop (mythbuntu), how can I mount a directory of the desktop on my laptop?
[10:31] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: do not want the desktop. I have a debootstrap installed server that I would like to get into the same shape (same installed packages) as a default server install
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: use samba or sshfs etc
[10:31] <bluefrog> what choice do I have to make sure that test.sh is run prior to launch a program for which the user clicked on the launcher (besides changing all launchers to Exec=test.sh && program)?
[10:32] <ahhughes_> so samba is not just a windows thing then ActionParsnip ?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: install the ubuntu-desktop [ackage and it wil all come down for you
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: Ubuntu can access samba, it also has smbclient which allows nautilus to easily access samba shares
[10:33] <danopia> i installed gnome-panel to get the GNOME2 fallback, but when i use it, i can't figure out how to customize the panels. rightlicking on a black area of the panels doesn't bring up a menu
[10:33] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: great... but is there a similar meta-apckage for servers?
[10:33] <ahhughes_> ActionParsnip, I guess I could use scp out of the box too, but thats a little less "ui friendly"  :)
[10:33] <Krambiorix> ok how can i have the identical gnome (2) from ubuntu 10.04 back?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: in what way?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: why, nautilus can connect to SFTP just fine
[10:33] <Krambiorix> All others are just a (bad) try to become cool like apple's interface
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: there are guides how to tweak it, just because an OS uses global menu doesn't mean its like a Mac
[10:35] <ahhughes_> ActionParsnip, I picked up about 3 things I need to learn in your 3 pieces of advice :)
[10:35] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: afaik, ubuntu-desktop is a package that only depends on a lot of other packages needed to create a basic desktop install. As I said, I want a server install
[10:35] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, well, i don't know where they get  the idea, but how can they make "windows" users try to start with ubuntu (gnome) with this??
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-server
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:36] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, i guess they wanted to create something "cool" but not user-friendly
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: try xfce or lxde :)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> or kde
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: I guess it depends what sort of server you want...
[10:37] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, i don't like them... I want Gnome 2 back!!
[10:38] <oCean> Krambiorix: xfce desktop has very much the look and feel of gnome2
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: gnome2 is dead, you can tweak the current OS to look like Gnome2
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: as oCean says, xfce is a lot like Gnome2 and will run your gnome apps without issue
[10:40] <Krambiorix> hmmm
[10:40] <Krambiorix> it's a pitty what gnome is doing
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: i think its good, new and innovative
[10:41] <[[thufir]]> can't seem to install flash:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1526253
[10:41] <blankon8> Title: Bash Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[10:41] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, what are you using it for?
[10:41] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, are you a developer ?
[10:41] <Jordan_U> blankon8: Please disable that (and any other scripts which will talk in this channel).
[10:41] <blankon8> Jordan_U: Error: "Please" is not a valid command.
[10:42] <man-doc> /join #backtrack-fr
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: no, just a long time user of Linux
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: ty what gnome is doing
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[10:42] <Rabbit67890> its the desktop environment
[10:42] <Rabbit67890> same with kde, fluxbox, twm, xfce, etc etc
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Rabbit67890: fluxbox isn't technically a DE ;)
[10:43] <Rabbit67890> hm
[10:43] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: found another server, and just ran dpkg -l | cut -c3-36| tail -n+6
[10:43] <Rabbit67890> i was possibly thinking some other box
[10:44] <Krambiorix> Rabbit67890, ActionParsnip: the left menu = ok, but what about moving the cursor to the upper left...??? Who the hell invented that?!
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: no idea, I just Alt+TAB and Alt+F4 when needed. Mouse is way to slow
[10:45] <Rabbit67890> ask the people in #gnome
[10:45] <chroot> hi, i am using kvm in ubuntu, and i want to my virtual machine connect to network with my ip address, how can i do that?
[10:45] <Rabbit67890> the devs will know why they moved it
[10:45] <LukeNukem> Hello
[10:45] <LukeNukem> i have a few concerns regarding my web server
[10:45] <LukeNukem> and chmod
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: if you don't like unity. Don't use it. Only one of the four officially supported variants of ubuntu use Unity...
[10:46] <Whitebird> When I change the port at ports.conf in apache2, I get a "Not Foun" page, and the when the port is 80, the page loads fine
[10:46] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, well, if you have 5 firefox windows open and so on, it's not manageable
[10:46] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, is there a way to go back to gnome 2 ?
[10:47] <jubei> howdy. Anybody know why even if I did "apt-get remove sendmail" sendmail is still there? I do "service start sendmail" and it still starts ok…
[10:47] <Rabbit67890> Whitebird, whats your index folder?
[10:47] <Whitebird> www normally
[10:47] <Whitebird> didn't change anything but hosts and port
[10:47] <Rabbit67890> where exactly?
[10:47] <oCean> Krambiorix: No. Gnome2 is dead
[10:47] <Rabbit67890> yeah
[10:48] <Rabbit67890> replaced with the OCD inducing gnome3 (my opinion)
[10:48] <Whitebird> How do you mean?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: thats why tabs exist
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: there are guides how to tweak the UI, one is on omgubuntu but their servers are being a bit weird recently...
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: tried gnome-shell?
[10:49] <Krambiorix> oCean, ActionParsnip  ok, then back to win XP / Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: why do I need to know that?
[10:50] <Krambiorix> FYI
[10:50] <Jordan_U> jubei: sendmail-bin
[10:50] <jubei> Jordan_U: found it thank you
[10:50] <Jordan_U> jubei: You're welcome.
[10:50] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, anywhere screenshots of gnome-shell?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: the internet..
[10:51] <Krambiorix> k thx
[10:51] <Krambiorix> bye
[10:53] <chroot> hi, i want to assign an ip to my vitual machine, how can i achinve that?
[10:53] <pnunn> Anyone here have any idea why I can't connect to a remote (but still on my network) kvm host with virsh (or anything else), when it works fine from the host itself?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> pnunn: can you ping 8.8.8.8 from it?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> chroot: you can set static IPs in network manager etc
[10:55] <chroot> ActionParsnip, yeah,  but it is in kvm?
[10:55] <ikonia> pnunn: libvirtd not listening on the correct interface, firewalled on that interface etc
[10:56] <chroot> I mean i installed ubuntu in kvm, and i want to access this virtual machine through the internet.
[10:56] <icarus> Hello, i am having a problem
[10:56] <ahhughes_> I cant work out how to get middle click on this laptops touchpad, anyone think this is possible (asus n53)
[10:56] <icarus> I just reinstalled xubuntu and i need to recover my files
[10:57] <madoo> hellp
[10:57] <madoo> i need heelp
[10:57] <icarus> i used a seperate partition for my /home and when i reinstalled it seems to have wiped my files even though i made sure not to select format
[10:57] <madoo> can i find hellp here
[10:57] <Whitebird> So far no dice for changing the port
[10:57] <pnunn> Tho network is functioning fine on the machine to the outside world.. could be listening on the wrong interface though, where is that set?
[10:58] <pnunn> chroot: you need to set up a bridge interface
[10:58] <Whitebird> madoo, what's the problem?
[10:58] <pnunn> chroot: the vm's will then get network settings just like real machines.
[10:58] <chroot> pnunn,  wow, how to set that bridge interface.
[10:59] <chroot> just configure the host's interface file
[10:59] <LukeNukem> how i can set two owners?
[10:59] <icarus> help recovering my files
[10:59] <chroot> and then configure the virtual machine's network as usaul and then you can access it through the network.
[10:59] <chroot> ?
[11:00] <madoo> i wanna change my ubuntu to kubuntu in tirmnal can eny one till me haw
[11:00] <ikonia> madoo: install the package kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <madoo> haw i can do
[11:00] <ikonia> madoo: open the package manager, search for kubuntu-desktop, click install
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: use your backups
[11:01] <icarus> i dont have backups
[11:01] <pnunn> chroot: install bridge-utils then look on google, plenty of examples there.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: why not?
[11:01] <icarus> because i didnt think the partition would be affected
[11:01] <icarus> it never has been before
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: you may find luck with foremost, if the data has been overwritten then it's gone
[11:01] <chroot> ok, pnunn , I will do that.
[11:01] <chroot> thanks
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: get a backup system
[11:01] <icarus> you are no help
[11:02] <pnunn> chroot: that bit is easy.. just wish I could talk to it.. lol.
[11:02] <icarus> my whole life was just wiped please stop antagonizing me
[11:02] <ikonia> icarus: it's actually very solid advice
[11:02] <icarus> not for my current problem
[11:02] <ikonia> icarus: if data is important to you, it's important to back it up
[11:02] <ikonia> icarus: you said you used a seperate /home partition, is that partition mounted ?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> icarus: I suggested foremost, how is that "no help"
[11:02] <madoo> haw i can typ in terminal
[11:02] <icarus> yes
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> icarus: try reading...
[11:03] <icarus> well tell me what foremost is
[11:03] <madoo> to change to kubuntu
[11:03] <ikonia> icarus: is the data in /home brand new or part of the legacy
[11:03] <icarus> i thought you were trying to be a smartass
[11:03] <ikonia> madoo: use the package manager
[11:03] <ikonia> madoo: open the package manager, search for kubuntu-desktop click "install"
[11:03] <icarus> what is a legacy
[11:03] <ikonia> icarus: old dasta
[11:03] <ikonia> data
[11:03] <icarus> ok
[11:03] <icarus> story tiiime
[11:03] <ikonia> don't want a story
[11:04] <ikonia> just want you to answer my question
[11:04] <LjL> !recover | icarus, some in this might help
[11:04] <icarus> i have been writing scripts and wut not and saving them to my hole
[11:04] <icarus> which was in an extended partition
[11:04] <icarus> one day i said oh noes my xubuntu is currupted
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: is the data in the /home brand new or not
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: don't want a story
[11:04] <icarus> luckily / and /home are different extended partitions
[11:04] <icarus> one install later all my files are gone
[11:04] <icarus> that all i know
[11:04] <icarus> im a noob s
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: please stop
[11:04] <icarus> sue me a
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: answer the question
[11:04] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <icarus> i dont know what you mean by brand new?
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: I'm sorry to say your data is gone
[11:05] <ikonia> icarus: if you mounted the old /home partition and your data is not there, you will have selected "format"
[11:05] <ikonia> icarus: your data is gone
[11:05] <icarus> i
[11:05] <icarus> made
[11:05] <icarus> sure
[11:05] <icarus> NOT
[11:05] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <icarus> to select format
[11:05] <icarus> >:3
[11:05] <ikonia> icarus: you where mistaken
[11:05] <icarus> ok
[11:05] <icarus> has anyone else had this problem before?
[11:06] <ikonia> icarus: no, it will be user error
[11:06] <icarus> seriously do i experiance unique problems?
[11:06] <valdur55> http://paste.ubuntu.com/890461/ -i have this output
[11:06] <JadedJacob> ubuntu 11.10
[11:06] <LjL> icarus: you need to calm down, i understand you're angry about your data being apparently gone, but don't flood the channel because of it
[11:06] <ikonia> icarus: many users have made mistakes before, it's not unique
[11:06] <JadedJacob> How can I change the appearance settings like int 10.* ?
[11:07] <OerHeks> icarus, maybe the data is not available for your account, open 'gksudo nautilus' and see if the data is there ?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: threre are guides like this one: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[11:08] <icarus> thanks but that did nothing
[11:08] <icarus> like i hit enter and it went to a new line
[11:08] <ikonia> icarus: the data is gone.
[11:08] <icarus> ikonia please, give me a suggestion or leave me alone
[11:09] <ikonia> icarus: ljl posted some information on data recovery tools, however you'll find the data is gone
[11:09] <ikonia> !recovery | icarus
[11:09] <ikonia> ignore that
[11:09] <ferro> hi all
[11:09] <ferro> i new
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> icarus: use foremost and you may be able to get data back. if the data is important I am shocked you are devoid of backup
[11:09] <ikonia> !recover | icarus
[11:09] <Abooda> hello ferro
[11:09] <JadedJacob> i don't mind unity, but how can i have it so the title bar always shows?
[11:09] <ikonia> icarus: you are welcome to try those tools that ubottu has sent you, however you will find the data is gone.
[11:10] <ferro> where are you Abooda
[11:10] <OerHeks> JadedJacob, try My-Unity, it has the always visible option
[11:10] <ferro> I live in italy
[11:10] <icarus> this is why GNU/Linux has so few home users: no real support
[11:11] <ikonia> icarus: people are supporting you
[11:11] <OerHeks> JadedJacob, it is a tweakingtool >> https://launchpad.net/~myunity/+archive/ppa
[11:11] <icarus> ou have to be an expert just to use it without people making you feels stupid
[11:11] <ikonia> icarus: you have made a mistake, and the data is gone, the same would be true in any OS
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> icarus: why? because you destroyed your own data that is the fault of the OS?? Seriously?
[11:11] <icarus> yes and i appreciate it
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> icarus: 3rd time lucky...try foremost
[11:11] <beasty> mornings
[11:11] <ikonia> icarus: I'm not trying to make you feel stupid, however the most honest truth is "the data is gone"
[11:11] <icarus> but making me feel bad for forgetting to backup when i thought it was unessasary is cruel and evil
[11:11] <ikonia> icarus: try the tools ActionParsnip is suggesting
[11:11] <nibbler_> icarus, if you know some unique words/combinations you used inside your scripts, you can use "strings /dev/sdaX | grep -C500 $word_or_unique_combination" to recover even parts of those files
[11:11] <ikonia> icarus: backups where mentioned once at the start of your conversation
[11:12] <ikonia> icarus: it's not been mentioned since, people have offered help, so either follow the help, or drop the complaining.
[11:12] <pnunn> sorted.. wrong user and group running qemu.
[11:12] <ferro> who know program for use pc like phone
[11:13] <madoo> hellp
[11:13] <OerHeks> ferro skype, ekiga ?
[11:13] <ikonia> madoo: what ?
[11:13] <ferro> but if i use skype i pay
[11:13] <madoo> i wanna install kubuntu in terminal like sudo >>>
[11:14] <OerHeks> ferro only the sun & ubuntu are free
[11:14] <quiescens> i would probably try to conclusively establish whether or not home directory encryption was used, before offering suggestions, but i didn't follow the conversation so i don't know if people already checked that
[11:14] <madoo> can you hellp me please
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> ferro: you can use skype to skype for free
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> madoo: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <madoo> its not workin
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> madoo: then run:  sudo apt-get update     first
[11:16] <ferro> yes but i have a mobile connection, i have possibility to tray sms bat I haven't possibility to call
[11:16] <icarus> ok
[11:16] <icarus> found my files
[11:16] <icarus> all there
[11:16] <madoo> its not workin
[11:17] <icarus> oerheks was the one who helped me with his useful suggestion of 'gksudo nautilus'
[11:17] <madoo> i have ubuntu 11.4 its was updateit
[11:17] <OerHeks> icarus have fun
[11:17] <icarus> i installed nautilus and wouldnt you know it it had made a second home folder that i couldnt use
[11:17] <icarus>  love you oerheks <3 <3 <3
[11:18] <madoo> its say apt comand not fund
[11:18] <ferro> ActionParsnip:  yes but i have a mobile connection, i have possibility to tray sms bat I haven't possibility to call
[11:18] <icarus> quick question: making a new user in terminal
[11:19] <icarus> how do i?
[11:19] <Krissed> icarus adduser
[11:19] <Krissed> sudo adduser obviously
[11:19] <icarus> ty
[11:20] <madoo> i wanna hellp
[11:20] <ferro> ty all now i go to eat bey bey
[11:21] <Tyrope> Hello, I have several users on my VM, but i'd only like to show 1 account in the actual GUI login screen.
[11:21] <Tyrope> I heard changing the UID below 1000 can do this, but it also causes permission problems i'd rather not have to solve.
[11:22] <madoo> heeeelllp
[11:22] <eSoul> Tyrope -- I have no idea about it, but is there anything in system settings that lets you control a setting like that?
[11:22] <JelloPop> madoo: with?
[11:22] <Tyrope> eSoul: not in user accounts.
[11:23] <eSoul> Tyrope: Damn
[11:23] <Pumpkin-> if you are using gdm, you can put something in the gdm config file to exclude users. I can't remember exactly what though, but google for "gdm exclude" should find it (I'm pretty sure exclude was the keyword)
[11:23] <Tyrope> Pumpkin-: on it, thank you.
[11:23] <madoo> when i try to change my ubuntu to k ubuntu  in terminal its tillme comand not fund
[11:24] <madoo> can you hellp me
[11:24] <JelloPop> madoo: logout login
[11:24] <madoo> i will
[11:24] <madoo> and
[11:25] <Tyrope> Pumpkin-: I googled and sudo vim'd to the file shown in a fedora forum topic, vim reports that /etc/gdm/custom.conf is a "[New DIRECTORY]" is gdm the default in ubuntu11.10?
[11:25] <JelloPop> madoo: change session at bottom of screen to kubuntu or kde
[11:25] <quiescens> Tyrope: most likely not
[11:25] <JelloPop> madoo: when u logout on the login screen
[11:25] <madoo> i didnt install
[11:26] <madoo> i know what you mean but i didnt installit
[11:26] <madoo> i wanna  install frist
[11:26] <derebel> i have an ipv6 gateway setup that is assigning addresses to a ubuntu client, the client gets an address but can't ping the gateway or ipv6 internet, would i need to set a route on the client or is this a problem on the gateway?
[11:26] <JelloPop> madoo: whell u have to install it...
[11:26] <Tyrope> any other ideas?
[11:26] <quiescens> Tyrope: you probably need to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and add a line saying greeter-hide-users=true if you want to hide the user list completely
[11:27] <Krissed> derebel is your iptables set up to allow ping ?
[11:27] <icarus> <3
[11:27] <Tyrope> quiescens: I want to have the 1 account I use to login locally to appear though
[11:27] <quiescens> Tyrope: otherwise try looking at /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf or something for documentation
[11:27] <JelloPop> madoo: sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[11:27] <fluxmagnet> does anyone know how you save your touchpad and light setting in lubuntu?
[11:28] <derebel> Krissed, icmp is explicitly allowed for ipv6 and ipv4 on the gateway
[11:28] <Neo31> Hello folks, please I need to install sun jre6 and jdk6. I got a little bit confused, I used to install it from a binary or a repo I don't remember, any useful link please? thx for help
[11:28] <Krissed> derebel hmm odd. youve checked logs and such ?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Neo31: sun don't own java now, it's oracle
[11:28] <Krissed> Neo31 id recommend from repo
[11:28] <fluxmagnet> oh i did it off terminal @ neo
[11:28] <chris_> how to find out if hdd is connected at sata 1, 2 or 3 speed
[11:29] <chris_> ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Neo31: if you can give the output of:  uname -m   I can advise
[11:29] <Neo31> have the package name changes ActionParsnip
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> chris_: look into hdparm
[11:29] <quiescens> Tyrope: it looks like you can hide users in /etc/lightdm/users.conf if that is sufficient
[11:29] <derebel> Krissed, tail /var/log/kern.log on the gateway (debian) gives me a few icmpv6_send: no reply to icmp error
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Neo31: no, its just not packaged anymore due to the new license
[11:30] <Krissed> ActionParsnip is that the reason why people cant get the java updated automaticly anymore ?
[11:30] <Neo31> i686 ActionParsnip
[11:30] <Tyrope> quiescens: It would be a solution, but I'd rather show just 1 user. let's call it plan B. ;)
[11:30] <Krissed> derebel hmm i cant think of any reason why it wouldnt work just now.
[11:30] <fluxmagnet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:30] <leo_> hi
[11:30] <fluxmagnet> that should get you started
[11:31] <Neo31> Krissed: how could i install oracle jre and jdk from repo. any link please ?
[11:31] <afidegnum> hello good moring all, any open source WHM available for ubuntu ?
[11:31] <fluxmagnet> neeo i just put one
[11:31] <fluxmagnet> neo even
[11:31] <fluxmagnet> you can follw the instruction for java nad just type in to terminal
[11:31] <Krissed> Neo31 well i forgot that there are some problems with java now.. ive read a guide which is just a bunch of text you paste into terminal and it uninstalls the old java and installs new
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Neo31: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; chmod +x ./install32bitjava; sudo ./install32bitjava
[11:32] <fluxmagnet> i didn't have any probs
[11:32] <fluxmagnet> on 32 bit
[11:32] <fluxmagnet> it works fine
[11:32] <Krissed> Neo31 try this: http://pastebin.com/pZpt37qc
[11:32] <fluxmagnet> does anyone know how to save keyboard and mouse setting on lubuntu? i keep having to redo on login
[11:33] <fluxmagnet> does anyone know how to save keyboard and mouse setting on lubuntu? i keep having to redo on login
[11:33] <gopi1410> !hi
[11:33] <Tyrope> fluxmagnet: we saw your question the first time.
[11:33] <fluxmagnet> oh actually back light is completely not changing now
[11:33] <Tyrope> fluxmagnet: perhaps an option could be cron's @reboot ?
[11:33] <leo_> cler
[11:34] <fluxmagnet> tyrope i don't know what you mean? i'm a bit of a noob with linux
[11:34] <Tyrope> I see.
[11:35] <Tyrope> Well, i'm not that experienced either.
[11:35] <Tyrope> I just know that cron can do stuff automatically on system startup.
[11:35] <Neo31> thanks ActionParsnip and Krissed , i'll try it.
[11:35] <chris_> ActionParsnip: i can find examples how to test transfere speed with hparm -t or -T. But can't see which sata version controller and hdd negotiated.
[11:35] <fluxmagnet> wat is cron?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> chris_: possibly also:  sudo lshw | less    may say
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> fluxmagnet: a scheduler service
[11:36] <Tyrope> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I was looking for the words to use.
[11:36] <chris_> fluxmagnet, tool to executed programms/scripts at scheduled time or interval
[11:36] <fluxmagnet> oh right
[11:36] <fluxmagnet> how to i get it to do stuff?
[11:37] <Tyrope> fluxmagnet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[11:37] <fluxmagnet> lubuntu is quite buggy but i'm wanting to persevere with it
[11:37] <chris_> fluxmagnet, crontab -e and see tyrope's link
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> fluxmagnet: if you have a desktop UI, you can use gnome-schedule as a GUI
[11:37] <fluxmagnet> thanks
[11:37] <JelloPop> fluxmagnet: this explains it http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31550
[11:38] <fluxmagnet> it says i do'nt have a crontab?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> fluxmagnet: yes, it'll make you one :)
[11:38] <Tyrope> fluxmagnet: it should create one on the first attempt to edit it.
[11:39] <Tyrope> and again ActionParsnip takes words from my mouth/keyboard. I'll leave you to it.
[11:39] <fluxmagnet> oh ok
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Boom
[11:41] <LukeNukem> How to create a new group?
[11:41] <DropsOfSerenity> Is there any newer alternative (better integrated into unity) than jitsi for a jabber client that's compatable with windows AND allows video chat AND screen sharing?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: sudo addgroup nameofgroup
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> DropsOfSerenity: possibly pidgin
[11:42] <DropsOfSerenity> ActionParsnip, pidgin allows screen sharing?
[11:43] <JelloPop> !group
[11:43] <JelloPop> !add group
[11:43] <ahhughes_> I cant work out how to get middle click on this laptops touchpad, anyone think this is possible (asus n53)?
[11:44] <angeloc> hi all, a quick question!
[11:44] <thetinyjesus> Quick question for you guys, if i have 12.04 beta 1 installed, are the updates the same as me updating to beta 2 once it is released?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> DropsOfSerenity: never used screen sharing in Linux, SSH always does what I need
[11:45] <jrib> thetinyjesus: yes but please use #ubuntu+1 for support until 12.04 is released
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> angeloc: ask away
[11:45] <thetinyjesus> jrib: alright thank you
[11:46] <angeloc> i'm writing a plugin for networkmanager, it should spawn a firefox process inside users sessions when some conditions are meet, it should spawn with the user rights of user session of course
[11:46] <Evanescence> which video editor is easy and good to use ? (I know openmovieeditor, but it is not available in my new Ubuntu source version)
[11:46] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, and to remove?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: guess :)
[11:47] <LukeNukem> removegroup nameofgroup?
[11:47] <angeloc> ActionParsnip, plugin is done, but I dont know wich is the best and raccomanded way to do what i want
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: sudo delgroup     close :). The man page will tell you the options on the command
[11:48] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, and to add users to a group?
[11:48] <ahhughes_> Evanescence, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10342746&postcount=4
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: look into useradd and usermod
[11:48] <Evanescence> ahhughes_: thanks
[11:49] <VictorCL> php mail() checks for a smtp account in linux to send mail ,, how can I configure ubunto with an gmail account to use that stmp automatically  ?
[11:49] <Tyrope> quiescens: I just re-read my highlights window to see you mentioned /etc/lightdm/users.conf instead of lightdm.conf. I can't seem to find a good help page on google. mind telling me the line i need to add for a hidden user?
[11:49] <LukeNukem> i tried this useradd -G {group-name} username
[11:49] <LukeNukem> but it gives me output
[11:49] <LukeNukem> user already exists
[11:49] <LukeNukem> :|
[11:49] <FloodBot1> LukeNukem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:49] <ahhughes_> Evanescence, this is old but seems like still accurate http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[11:50] <fluxmagnet> ok i'm going to have a look at this it's a bit confusing thanks tho
[11:50] <fluxmagnet> bye
[11:50] <Tyrope> fluxmagnet: bye, thanks for visiting
[11:50] <Evanescence> ahhughes_: good 5
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: you'll want to use:  sudo usermod -a -G group username
[11:50] <ahhughes_> Evanescence, I have only used Avidemux to trim mpeg2's. The others seem incredibly powerful... if thats what you need
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[11:51] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, ok now to view the list of users in the group?
[11:51] <LukeNukem> :D
[11:51] <Evanescence> ahhughes_: openshot is good choice even I have never had a try on it. looks similar with openmovieeditor
[11:53] <LukeNukem> how to change ownership to a group using chown?
[11:53] <KM0201> LukeNukem: chown username:usergroup /path/to/directory   i think.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: http://nixcraft.com/ubuntu-debian/11867-any-way-view-view-all-members-group.html
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: chown :groupname thing
[11:54] <LukeNukem> KM0201, i want to add the entire group
[11:54] <KM0201> LukeNukem: oh ok, then i think what AP said will work
[11:55] <JermBob> if i wanted to run a file server a ftp server and a www server from ubuntu
[11:55] <JermBob> would it be best to use server ?
[11:55] <JermBob> i tend to like to use the pc too
[11:55] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, i tried that.. but owner is still not changed to the group :\
[11:55] <JermBob> even though its serving
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: is the user you are running it as the owner?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: is the folder stored on a FAT32 or NTFS based file system?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: you can run services on a desktop OS
[11:56] <KM0201> JermBob: if you tend to use it as a PC to, then i wouldn't use ubuntu server, but thats just me.. but it seems crazy to run those services on a PC that's in use as a desktopp, i would think it would kill performance
[11:56] <LukeNukem> AcidRain, ext4
[11:56] <JermBob> KM0201:  its a pretty light weight www server
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: try prepending with sudo
[11:57] <VictorCL> is there a way to save a file opened in vim as root ?
[11:57] <JermBob> and the ftp would most likely be used by the internal network
[11:57] <VictorCL> I forgot to open it as ROOT and not I can't save
[11:58] <Splooshie123> LUkeNukem, I think only 1 user can own a file. But you can set the permissions of the file so the group has same permissions as the owner (ex. 775)
[11:58] <JermBob> is samba still the best file sharing utility thats cross platform ?
[11:58] <JelloPop> Tyrope: ran across a input for the same version asking to use exlcude line
[11:58] <JermBob> like i want my girlfriend to be able to open stuff on her windows box
[11:59] <JermBob> but i want to be able to network map to the ubuntu shares on my ubuntu laptop
[11:59] <Tyrope> JelloPop: Sorry?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: you can access windows shares using nautilus
[11:59] <JermBob> ActionParsnip: thanks, is that intergrated in ubuntu standard or should i apt-get ?
[12:00] <JelloPop> Tyrope: ur not using fedora so not sure if editing file with exclude line will work
[12:00] <GirlyGirl> JermBob: Nautilus is a file manager (default one)
[12:00] <Tyrope> JelloPop: that file (or better, folder.) doesn't exist.
[12:00] <JermBob> thanks GirlyGirl
[12:00] <JelloPop> Tyrope: My understanding is that the schemas file shouldn't be edited and /etc/gdm/custom.conf should be modified. I was able to exclude users from the gdm list with the following:
[12:00] <JelloPop> Code:
[12:00] <JelloPop> [greeter]
[12:00] <JelloPop> Exclude=user1, user2
[12:00] <GirlyGirl> JelloPop: It uses Samba itself as backend to find windows shares
[12:00] <GirlyGirl> JermBob: It uses Samba itself as backend to find windows shares
[12:00] <Tyrope> JelloPop: problem is, I don't run gdm. /etc/gdm doesn't exist.
[12:01] <JermBob> thats solved then
[12:01] <Tyrope> JelloPop: "ls /etc | grep gdm" results nothing.
[12:01] <JermBob> thanks all
[12:01] <JermBob> night night
[12:01] <JermBob> oh thats good
[12:01] <JermBob> im familar with samba being the thing
[12:01] <FloodBot1> JermBob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <JelloPop> Tyrope: Not what I'm getting at ... hold on...
[12:02] <Tyrope> JelloPop: Sorry, continue
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Tyrope: the default in oneiric is lightdm, you can install gdm if you wish
[12:04] <Tyrope> ActionParsnip: I'd rather accept seeing all account than install extra software, HDD space on the VM is small and i'd rather have it used by the software I actually need.
[12:04] <Tyrope> thanks though
[12:05] <JelloPop> Tyrope: ActionParsnip could u just edit the etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf with the line exclude and get it to work???
[12:05] <ivandiaz> Hey everyone, I am wondering if anyone can help me out with this issue Im currently having. For some reason everytime I watch youtube, the video is automatically resized to an "Embedded" size leaving a portion of the normal youtube screen black. Also no internet radio works for me at all, it simply loads and loads and loads nor do clicking buttons that say "listen live" on sites such as...
[12:05] <ivandiaz> ...sky.fm or iheartradio.com seem to work at all, it was working just fine a few days ago until I installed GNOME and went into recovery mode to reset my admin passwords but thats it, if anyone has any idea as to how to fix this would be great!
[12:07] <Abooda> ivandiaz: what other sound problems you having?
[12:08] <Nova> Well in regards to online radio, I cannot hear anything at all as its stuck on that buffering icon, regardless of the site or radio station, and as for youtube, the audio works great its just the videos are stuck on the embedded size within the actual normal screen of youtube, so its like a small video off in the corner of the original youtube size screen.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Tyrope: you can uninstall lightdm if space is an issue.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> JelloPop: no idea, I don't mess with lightdm
[12:09] <noneio> so when i look in a .desktop file, i see this line: Icon=file-manager
[12:09] <noneio> how do i find the full path to that icon?
[12:09] <Tyrope> I'll test it then. "exclude=user,user2,us3r" right, JelloPop?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Nova: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'      use http://pastie.org to give the output
[12:09] <notlistening> Hi I want to load modules before my udev for usb runs is there a way to do that?
[12:09] <JelloPop> Tyrope: k
[12:09] <philinux> In synaptic lightdm is shown as 438kb
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> noneio: could try:  sudo updatedb; locate file-manager | egrep -i 'png|xpm|jpg'
[12:10] <Nova> ok give me one second ActionParsnip
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> notlistening: if you add them in /etc/modules    does it help?
[12:11] <notlistening> they are already in there
[12:11] <notlistening> the problem i am having is with 3G modems
[12:11] <CaptainQuirk> Hi !
[12:11] <notlistening> but on after a cold boot
[12:11] <Tyrope> JelloPop, ActionParsnip: no joy. I'll accept seeing a userlist then, at least I figured out how to remove guest.
[12:11] <CaptainQuirk> I'm trying to launch a command with a variable part in the argument
[12:12] <CaptainQuirk> http GET 33.33.33.10/perms.json Set-Cookie:$COOKIE --allow-redirects --print=hHBb --traceback
[12:12] <ahhughes_> oh this no middle click thing on this laptop looks like a bug :'(   but after I try and change the "Synaptics Tap Action" property I get left and middle click but no right :'(''''' http://askubuntu.com/questions/80712/middle-mouse-click-emulation-on-trackpad-how-can-i-set-it
[12:12] <CaptainQuirk> is my syntax correct for  the $COOKIE be replaced
[12:12] <JelloPop> Tyrope: did us see the edit version for linux mint lxde? dont u have that config file though???
[12:13] <Tyrope> JelloPop: what file?
[12:13] <JelloPop> Tyrope: thought u did a google search???
[12:13] <Tyrope> yes, but I specified 'ubuntu'
[12:13] <dr_willis> CaptainQuirk:  if you  use 'echo yourfancycommandline' it will print out how bash would see it after everything is parsed and replaced.
[12:15] <imfree_> 1
[12:15] <JelloPop> Tyrope: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=37129
[12:15] <JelloPop> Tyrope: problem is it is linux mint though dought u have that config file
[12:15] <CaptainQuirk> dr_willis, ehh, I don't get you
[12:17] <CaptainQuirk> I just want the $COOKIE to be used inside the argument
[12:17] <Nova> ActionParsnip: Here is the pastie http://pastie.org/3627682
[12:17] <CaptainQuirk> doing 'echo $COOKIE' prints out echo $COOKIE in the header, which is not what I want
[12:19] <Tyrope> JelloPop: command ran without error, accounts still display on the login screen. seems to take a bit longer to log out now though
[12:20] <JelloPop> Tyrope: edit the code out will mess with Ubuntu dont leave that there ....
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Nova: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890528/
[12:21] <dr_willis> CaptainQuirk:  then your $COOKIE is not currently.. You canuse echo as a 'test' to see what its going to do exactly.
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Nova: you an old ECW fan ;)
[12:21] <dr_willis> not currently Set i mean.
[12:21] <Nova> ActionParsnip: Haha yeah, and thanks let me try it out
[12:21] <CaptainQuirk> dr_willis, I do and there's something inside it
[12:21] <dr_willis> CaptainQuirk:  depending on how you are doing the command, and whats running it. will dictate how you need to quote the arguments
[12:22] <Tyrope> JelloPop: There's no editing a command that already ran, though.
[12:22] <dr_willis> CaptainQuirk:  so i think the channel needs some more details. I dont think you are using 'http get....' from a bash shell are you?
[12:22] <Tyrope> JelloPop: is it as simple as changing the "True" at the end into "False"?
[12:23] <JelloPop> Tyrope: if u want all users gone
[12:24] <Tyrope> JelloPop: all but one.
[12:24] <Nova> ActionParsnip:  It gave me this in my terminal, which one should I install? http://pastie.org/3627708
[12:24] <Tyrope> depends on the definition of 'gone'. ;)
[12:24] <JelloPop> Tyrope: false statement removes all users from list..
[12:25] <Tyrope> Let's not do that. :)
[12:25] <white_gecko> hello, does anybody know if there is a possibility to monitor how much data I have send in a month through my UMTS stick?
[12:25] <AcidRain> ok.... this is pretty weird, but the "install now" button in app installer is broken it appears. it wont install kid3 audio tag editor
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Nova: adobe-flashplugin is the one you want
[12:26] <JelloPop> Tyrope: Unless ur going to change to LinuxMint 12 I dont seeing how to do this with out installing gdm
[12:27] <Tyrope> JelloPop: Alright, I'll stick with the userlist then. thanks anyway.
[12:27] <Nova> ActionParsnip:  Hmm it seems It was unable to locate the files? http://pastie.org/3627731
[12:27] <JelloPop> Tyrope: have fun :)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Nova: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[12:31] <monohedron_> anybody ever played with bino ?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> !info bino
[12:32] <Nova> ActionParsnip:  Alright wow it worked! thanks so much!!
[12:32] <eutheria> can deja-dup read a backup created with duplicity?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Nova: you had 2 flash plugins installed, removed both then installed just the one
[12:34] <sambagirl> i am upgrading to 10.10 from 10.04 and the laptop is running sorta hot, and it will shut down if it gets to hot. if it does, will the upgrade restart or will it pick up from where it terminated from the shutdown:? it's installing packages now and says like 2 hours left. it just asked if i wanted to keep a configuration and i said yes. that part.
[12:34] <sambagirl> also is libre the new office that is being distributed by ubuntu?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: yes, its the default installed office package. You can easily remove it if you need
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: I do and install abiword and gnumeric, much smaller :)
[12:36] <sambagirl> no i will keep it
[12:36] <Nova> ActionParsnip:  Oh I see, thanks again much apperciated!
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Nova: np man :)
[12:36] <Sifrazooy> hey does anyone knows where i can find nautilus documentations
[12:36] <sambagirl> i use atlantis word processor actually it runs in wine beautifully and has superior functions
[12:37] <sambagirl> do u use wine in your configurations actionparsnip?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: I've no need of it. I also use googledocs but its rare
[12:38] <sambagirl> ok
[12:39] <sambagirl> i forgot your one of those linux wizard gurus :D
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: i just have basic needs so I keep it simple
[12:40] <sambagirl> i understand
[12:43] <sambagirl> is it possible to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: not without upgrading to 11.04, then 11.10 first
[12:44] <philinux> sambagirl: No it's not LTS to LTS yes. Also see this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11777153&postcount=4
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: I'd go for a clean install, it'll give a smoother OS, plus it's LTS so you won't have all the old fluff from the old releases :)
[12:45] <sambagirl> oh so i could have upgraded from 10.04 to 12.x? since they are both lts?
[12:45] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: to your opinion what works better running windows 7 with ubuntu in VMware or running windows7 on virtual box under ubuntu?
[12:45] <sambagirl> yeah your right actionparsnip
[12:46] <philinux> sambagirl: 12.04 not released yet and upgrade path could be bad at the moment
[12:46] <sambagirl> i am going to give this laptop to my mom
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: depends on the needs of both OSes, there is no single answer
[12:46] <philinux> sambagirl: +1 ActionParsnip Upgrades take forever IMHO
[12:47] <sambagirl> here is an interesting question. i have seen all kinds of Ubuntu derivatives and i wondered if there is lets call it a senior citizens version?
[12:47] <sambagirl> your right philinux this started around 2am :D
[12:47] <sambagirl> its' almost 0am now
[12:47] <sambagirl> 9am
[12:47] <llutz_> sambagirl: just 2 buttons on desktop + 120pt Fontsize?
[12:48] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: For my work I would need to be able to work with MSOFFICE 2010 other then that there are a view things that works for me better under windows then linux (ex adobe mastersuite 4) and didn't find any good replacement for this package under linux but I might be wrong
[12:48] <sambagirl> llutz_ that would be good
[12:48] <WilsonBradley> test
[12:49] <sambagirl> i'm going to do some research on the subject of a senior citizens ubuntu version
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: then i'd virtualize Ubuntu as you will get better performance from those apps
[12:49] <llutz_> sambagirl: iirc there had been a debian based project like that by german company Siemens. idk what happend with that
[12:49] <sambagirl> let me look into it  brb thanks
[12:49] <newbuntu> hi :-)
[12:49] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: or run a dual boot which is another alternative
[12:50] <mcb_> I still have one desktop machine with version 10.10. Does anyone know of a way to upgrade to a new version, but keeping my gnome intact. Without instaling Unity?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: sure, always an option. Just remember to only install windows to a portion of the drive space rather than the default 100%
[12:50] <newbuntu> i wonder if someone could give me a hint of what i could do to get rid of my hard disk problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11777259#post11777259)
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> mcb_: you will need to upgrade first, then tweak
[12:51] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I know I have 1.5TB so I can shift a little :)
[12:51] <mcb_> But the tweak does not go so good..... Shame!
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> mcb_: you will need to upgrade to evry intermediate release until you get to the version you want
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: if you plan partitions, you won't have to resize
[12:51] <sggg> hi, my windows xp can not access my ubuntu samba server. I followed this doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html  any ideas? thanks. I can access the samba ports from windows xp PC. thanks.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> mcb_: could use xfce, i feels and smells like Gnome2
[12:52] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: it's 3x500Gig drives no resizing needed
[12:53] <mcb_> ActionParsnip: That I know, but I realy disliked Unity, and to tweak it aftwards is a pain. Using Xfce is good, but i also have to reconfigure it all, and that the kind of problem i want to abvoid.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: will if you set the Windows partitions to use all the space ;)
[12:54] <philinux> mcb_: Have you tried MyUnity or the cinnamon  desktop
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> mcb_: there are how to's for tweaking Oneiric to make it look like Gnome2. There are also unofficial forks of Gnome2 you can use which are not supported here
[12:54] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: the last time an OS tried to play it his way it ended to be formatted ;)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> mcb_: like cinnamon that philinux mentioned
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> mcb_  i don't like/use unity either, Gnome classic looks much like Gnome2, but *is* Gnome3 (which means the bars on top and bottom are less configurable)
[12:55] <newbuntu> anyone any ideas whats wrong with the hd?
[12:55] <triscuit> unity reminds me of my cellphone
[12:55] <mcb_> Thanks all for the advices. I think I will backup, and do a fresh install without desktop enviroment and install it all manually.....
[12:56] <sacarlson> newbuntu: I don't even see what format type the partition is in what I see in your link,  ntfs?  ext4? ...
[12:56] <newbuntu> ntfs
[12:57] <sggg> btw, I can access the samba server from localhost with smb://localhost/share/ through nautilus. windows xp can not connect to it at all. any ideas? thanks.
[12:57] <ye> hello !!! when i use "fdisk -l" , then diskplay an "sda", does that mean my disk is SATA?
[12:57] <sacarlson> newbuntu: then might want to try recover in windows first.  not sure ubuntu ntfs drivers are best in this case
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ye: more than likely, yes
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> sggg: can the XP system ping the ubuntu system?
[12:58] <newbuntu> but i dont know how, because i dont have a windows cd that i could use, because it came preinstalled
[12:58] <sggg> ActionParsnip, yeah, sure. I also said it could access the samba ports 139 and 445.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sggg: what happens when you try to connect?
[12:59] <newbuntu> windows does not boot anymore and i dont have another win pc where i could plug the disk in
[12:59] <ye> ActionParsnip: but when i use "grub"  , i enter "root" in it  ,  i only match sda.
[12:59] <sggg> ActionParsnip, forgot. let me try it out. just connect timeout I think. let me try it again.
[13:00] <ye> ActionParsnip: hd
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ye: you can see if you run:  sudo lshw | less
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ye: it will say the model of the drive and you can search to see what interface it uses
[13:01] <sacarlson> newbuntu: http://www.howtoforge.com/ntfs-disk-recovery
[13:02] <sggg> ActionParsnip, the error is "the network path was not found". I access it by using \\<ip>\share and also tried \\<ip>\
[13:02] <ye> ActionParsnip: sorry , can you tell  me  how to find out what interface it is?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> sggg: have you configured the firewall on the Ubuntu system at all?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ye: run the command I gave, when you see the drive model you can search for that on the web
[13:03] <sggg> ActionParsnip, I didn't configure the firewall at all. I think I even don't have it installed. and the windows xp can access the ports. I tried telnet ip 139 and telnet ip 445. both works.
[13:04] <sggg> I never make samba work... I remembered I tried to use it two years ago. then give up...
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> sggg: cool, all I can suggest is run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     set the password and you can authenticate with that, should be ok
[13:04] <sggg> I can access it locally with smb://<ip>/share/ with nautilus as what I posted.
[13:04] <ye>  ActionParsnip: scsi
[13:05] <sggg> ActionParsnip, I really want to make guest work. I don't need any security.
[13:06] <newbuntu> sacarlson:  thx . question - when i create an image, will it take as much space as the size of the disk under consideration or only space in size of the actual data on that disk? ...because its a 1 TB device, and my external device has not so much space left :/
[13:06] <Robinux> Hi, can I add chrome extensions on chromium???
[13:07] <jubei> Robinux: off you can.
[13:07] <jubei> of course*
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: absolutely
[13:07] <sacarlson> newbuntu: I'm not sure, I guess you'll just have to try to find out
[13:08] <newbuntu> ok thx
[13:08] <OerHeks> My problem: i would like to pair a HID lazer keyboard to my bluetooth, but it doesn't see it. >> http://www.vkb-support.com/index.php . Is there an alternative BT manager ?
[13:08] <ye> ActionParsnip: OK got it. thx
[13:10] <OerHeks> I can't find any Linux info of this €160 gadget either...
[13:11] <newbuntu> sacarlson: i had good experience under windows when i used this tool - http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[13:11] <newbuntu> sacarlson: unfortunately, i dont know how to use it through linux
[13:12] <alex1010> bonjour
[13:12] <alex1010> quelqu'un sait s'il existe des clusters GPU open source
[13:12] <alex1010> ou meme des clusters CPU
[13:12] <Pici> !fr | alex1010
[13:13] <alex1010> ^_^
[13:13] <alex1010> thanks
[13:13] <sacarlson> newbuntu: looks like we have it maybe give it a try if you have limited resources http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=testdisk
[13:14] <alex1010> ok
[13:14] <jardineworks> hey guys -- can someone tell me how to permanently disable sleep mode (when the laptop lid is closed) for 11.10? I'm trying to use the power maangement settings but it doesn't seem to retain my prefernce across restarts
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> i   jardineworks choose 'Do nothing'
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> jardineworks  that's System Settings (top right) - Power - When the lid is closed - do nothing
[13:17] <newbuntu> sacalson: sorry for asking, but what would i do with the link you gave me? :/
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> jardineworks: look in power settings, there will be a link to some extra settings too
[13:18] <Lostvoices> hey guys, im having trouble with cups-pdf.. i have installed it and when i go to printers there is no option for local printers only network printer.. what could be causing this ? does anyone know anything i need to do?
[13:19] <newbuntu> sacarlson: sorry for asking, but what would i do with the link you gave me? :/
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:22] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip, oneiric
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: may help: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-pdf-documents-in-ubuntu.html
[13:24] <neure> hi
[13:24] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip,  thanks i've been folling that.. it's the part that says    Select LOCAL PRINTER... i i only have the option to select Network printer
[13:24] <neure> in Files, why can't i scroll with mouse wheel?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: what apps are you wanting to create PDFs from, most can do it on their own
[13:24] <neure> should i be able to do that somehow?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> neure: do you mean in nautilus?
[13:25] <Lostvoices> visual paridigm
[13:25] <llutz_> Lostvoices: "pgrep cupsd"  does cups run local at all?
[13:26] <Lostvoices> pgrep cupsd in termial prints 942
[13:26] <llutz_> Lostvoices: check "localhost:631" in a browser and setup cups-pdf there
[13:27] <neure> ActionParsnip, I dont know, this is unity in 12.04 beta1
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> neure: then ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> neure  #ubuntu+1
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> neure  12.04 is not stable yet, some things may not function correctly
[13:28] <Lostvoices> llutz,  i'm getting not found on every page, maybe something is wrong here
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: try a reboot :)
[13:29] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip,  have 3 times  :)
[13:30] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip,  guess i'll just have to transfer my files to my windows pc and print from there
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890593/
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: what apps are you printing to PDF from?
[13:31] <eXcAliBuR> how can i open my log file and have it show updated info as it's open?
[13:31] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip,  Visual PAridigm
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: ahh, i see
[13:32] <llutz_> eXcAliBuR: tailf /var/log/yourfile
[13:32] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip,  it's for uni i must submit assignment in pdf form :)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: makes sense
[13:34] <Lostvoices> whatss the command for uinistall in terminal? i might try reinstalling it
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Lostvoices: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[13:36] <philinux> ActionParsnip: save typing no need for remove bit ;)
[13:36] <Lostvoices> ActionParsnip,   when installing i get this.. probably the problem hey    lpinfo: cups-driverd failed to execute.
[13:37] <ahhughes_> what happened to the location bar in nautilis, I cant have /this/as/text in the address bar :'(
[13:37] <paopao> hello?
[13:39] <paopao> how can i know how many channels are there in the ubuntu servers
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> paopao  you mean freenode server?
[13:39] <bazhang> paopao, ubuntu servers are really freenode
[13:39] <paopao> yeah, maybe
[13:40] <bazhang> paopao, you can search using alis
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> paopao: i'd ask in #freenode
[13:40] <bazhang> !alis | paopao
[13:40] <bazhang> chinese in #ubuntu-cn paopao
[13:40] <sambagirl> wow i found a distro for visually impaired called Vinux it's ubuntu based.
[13:40] <philinux> ahhughes_: Press ctrl l
[13:40] <paopao> thanx :-)
[13:40] <paopao> alis
[13:41] <paopao> "/msg alis help list"
[13:41] <philinux> paopao: without the quotes
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: looks like LXDE to me, could install Lubuntu and theme it the same and get support here :)
[13:42] <neure> is there any other font editing software that fontforge?
[13:42] <sambagirl> oh
[13:43] <sambagirl> i wonder why this is still stuck on mysql upgrade? it's been like forever. i recall i had to restart the mysql from a prompt earlier.
[13:43] <ahhughes_> philinux, that lets me enter text, but doesnt display text permanently.
[13:44] <RawProduce> I have an ACL setup like so: "# getfacl /home/webmaster/phoenix/src/app/cache" --> "user:www-data:rw-", yet if I "su www-data" then run "mkdir /home/webmaster/phoenix/src/app/cache/dev" I get the error "mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/webmaster/phoenix/src/app/cache/dev': Permission denied". "# ls -lach /home/webmaster/phoenix/src/app/cache/" --> "drwsrwsrwx+ 2 webmaster webmaster 4.0K 2012-03-19 13:37 ."
[13:44] <RawProduce> what gives?
[13:45] <paopao> i typed "/msg alis LIST", and then it showed me channels only starting with "o", no #ubuntu or #freenode...
[13:46] <bazhang> paopao, lets take this to #freenode please
[13:47] <philinux> ahhughes_: Open dconf-editor > Expand org>gnome>nautilus>prefs> then tick always-use-location-entry
[13:48] <sambagirl> haha
[13:48] <frodo_9fin> using the gui in ubuntu to change the mo9nitor preferences works very well. sometimes it seems to change the settings i put in (xorg) seems not to like my set up. is there a file somewhere that the gui references that i can make unmodifiable by the system?
[13:50] <philinux> paopao: try this /msg alis LIST *ubuntu*
[13:50] <sambagirl> the upgrade has been stuck here for awhile "installing new version of config file /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.mysqld .... could it be a problem?
[13:51] <philinux> paopao: use * as a wildcard
[13:51] <paopao> philinux thanx
[13:52] <sambagirl> it appears to me to have stalled.
[13:55] <philinux> sambagirl: is this the upgrade :(
[13:55] <sambagirl> yes philinux
[13:55] <sambagirl> this is a bummer
[13:55] <philinux> sambagirl: oh no. very bad
[13:56] <sambagirl> well let me crash that process and back it up to external and rebuild new i guess.
[13:56] <nicofs> Can someone help me sort out xsession? I want to have a Lubuntu session at startup but all I get is LXDE after an error message that an Xubuntu session could not be started.
[13:56] <philinux> sambagirl: I had this once and  thats why I do clean installs. You need to reboot probably into recovery and try to repair it or chroot from livecd
[13:56] <sambagirl> do you think it won't reboot?
[13:57] <sambagirl> let me back it up first then
[13:57] <philinux> sambagirl: no idea till you try. You van use dpkg --configure -a from recovey and update and upgrade etc
[13:57] <nicofs> Apparently "LXDE session" is set as default, nevertheless the system tries to start a "Xubuntu session" at first even though Xubuntu has been completely purged...
[13:58] <philinux> sambagirl: yes backup first importnat stuff
[13:58] <sambagirl> crash the upgrade and then run dpkg --configure -a ?
[13:58] <ahhughes_> philinux, BooYah, thank you!
[13:58] <philinux> sambagirl: I'd make sure of backups first
[13:59] <sambagirl> yeah blah
[13:59] <sambagirl> it doenst seem to recognize the external drive now
[13:59] <sambagirl> it has a ghost there
[13:59] <sambagirl> now it does
[13:59] <sambagirl> bbiab
[14:00] <pfifo> 'be back in after backup'
[14:01] <ahhughes_> hey philinux sorry to bug ya, you know how I can add custom links (to folders) to the panel on the left hand side, of nautilus i.e in addition to Home, Desktop, Documents, Downloads....
[14:04] <philinux> ahhughes_: yes hang on
[14:04] <ahhughes_> awesome, its been bugging me for ages, and I just cant get the relevant terms to google for it successfully
[14:05] <philinux> ahhughes_: you can search yourself for quicklists
[14:06] <philinux> ahhughes_: here's one link http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available
[14:06] <Evi1john> net_proxy_port 9050
[14:06] <ahhughes_> thanks philinux I had never heard of a quicklist til you mentioned it.
[14:07] <ibiwor> Hi! Installed xfce4 and lxde packages as the names are to try xfce and lxde DE early today. Soon after installing them, on restart I noticed a change of grub background from default blue to a one based on debian something like this - http://lazybrowndog.net/debian/squeeze/bugfixes/grub/spacefun-grub-widescreen.png - and similar background when KDE loads with a splash screen.
[14:07] <philinux> ahhughes_: this is an easier method. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/myunity-30-released-with-new-gui.html
[14:07] <ibiwor> Other than that, the desktop effects fail to load on login that only enabling them from desktop effects works but partially. How can I fix this?
[14:07] <philinux> ahhughes_: 12.04 though. Just around the corner
[14:08] <philinux> ahhughes_: also see here. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/unity-window-quicklists.html
[14:09] <lubosz> hi. is there any other way to restart all of usb than reloading the kernel module? because it is compiled into the kernel. FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin
[14:10] <lubosz> "sudo restart udev" does not work for me
[14:11] <paopao> who's ChanServ?
[14:11] <ikonia> paopao: it's a freenode network service
[14:12] <_d4vid> re..
[14:12] <paopao> ikonia, haha, i thought it was a person
[14:13] <paopao> then what is "op"
[14:13] <ikonia> paopao: do you need ubuntu help ?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> paopao  "op" is "operator", supervisor, if you like (or don't like :p)
[14:14] <davide> hello
[14:15] <davide> someone knows which is the freenode support channel?
[14:15] <husien> lol
[14:15] <Super_Donkihote> hello everybody
[14:15] <ikonia> davide: #freenode
[14:15] <davide> thank you
[14:15] <paopao> thanx ikonia MonkeyDust
[14:15] <paopao> op
[14:16] <philinux> ahhughes_: this might help too. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/04/21/the-power-user%E2%80%99s-guide-to-unity/
[14:16] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[14:16] <drPoO> how can I download all files of a given filetype from an FTP server??
[14:16] <kosaidpo> does heimdall work for galaxy mini ?
[14:16] <meerkats> what is the command to, in a EXT4 filesystem, reduce the lost and found folder to 1% of the total memory?
[14:17] <ikonia> %1 of the total memory ?
[14:17] <llutz_> meerkats: sure you mean the Lost&Found and not the root-reserved space?
[14:17] <sipior> meerkats: there is no such command. do you mean adjusting the reserved block count of the filesystem?
[14:17] <ikonia> meerkats: the lost+found folder is for lost/orphaned files
[14:17] <llutz_> meerkats: tune2fs -m ....
[14:18] <yougatup> wow
[14:18] <ikonia> meerkats: it is very unwise to change the reserved space on a file system though unless you know what you are doing
[14:18] <yougatup> Wow!!!!!
[14:18] <ikonia> yougatup: what ?
[14:18] <meerkats> i have no idea, its been too long since last time I did it, I mean the 5% reserved space that, for a 500GB HDD is too much
[14:18] <sipior> meerkats: agree strongly.
[14:18] <llutz_> meerkats: tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdXY
[14:18] <yougatup> it is my first time to use IRC!
[14:18] <ikonia> meerkats: it's not too much
[14:18] <ikonia> meerkats: it's a buffer to stop your disk from having issues should you fill it up
[14:18] <yougatup> It's amazing!
[14:18] <ikonia> yougatup: ok, let me get you a link that may help
[14:18] <ikonia> !guildelines | yougatup
[14:19] <yougatup> how can exact that?
[14:19] <meerkats> ikonia, no programms, just data
[14:19] <drPoO> how can I download all files of a given filetype from an FTP server??
[14:19] <ikonia> meerkats: I said nothing about programs
[14:19] <yougatup> !guildelines
[14:19] <meerkats> and 1% of 500GB are 5GB, enough I believe...
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> !guidelines
[14:19] <llutz_> more than ...
[14:20] <the_perfect> ciao
[14:20] <meerkats> llutz, I assume tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdXY works with partitions too...
[14:20] <the_perfect> :!list
[14:20] <rbrooks> >
[14:20] <llutz_> meerkats: /dev/sdXY refers to a partition
[14:21] <the_perfect> !send
[14:21] <LjL> the_perfect: this channel is not for warez.
[14:22] <rbrooks> !list
[14:22] <rbrooks> crap
[14:23] <the_perfect> !bot
[14:23] <sandstrom> I've got a bunch of `rpciod` processes in top, is that normal? http://pastie.org/3628273
[14:23] <Hiob10hiob> in which channel, i can report a bug in 12.04?
[14:24] <meerkats> ubuntu+1 Hiob10hiob
[14:24] <rbrooks> For support with 12.04 beta, /join #ubuntu+1 channel
[14:24] <ikonia> Hiob10hiob: you use launchpad.net
[14:24] <ikonia> Hiob10hiob: reporting a bug in an irc channel won't do much
[14:25] <tonnoriomare> hello!
[14:25] <rbrooks> !hi
[14:25] <Hiob10hiob> ikonia: i dont know how to do, so i ask in ubuntu+1 how to du
[14:25] <kosaidpo> anyone used heimdall to flash galaxy mini ??
[14:25] <Hiob10hiob> *do
[14:25] <paopao> !op paopao
[14:25] <rbrooks> !hello
[14:25] <ikonia> Hiob10hiob: visit launchpad.net
[14:25] <ikonia> paopao: what are you trying to do ?
[14:25] <ikonia> hi rbrooks
[14:25] <Bsims> Minor problem, I can't ssh into my computer, ssh localhost works when I am on it
[14:25] <philinux> Hiob10hiob: you can post about it here and discuss it. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412
[14:26] <rbrooks> how do?
[14:26] <Pici> paopao: If you have a question about irc services, please ask in #freenode.
[14:26] <paopao> i want to use the "op" command, and see if it works ikonia
[14:26] <ikonia> paopao: it won't work - you are not an operator in this channel
[14:26] <Hans_Henrik> i only got ssh access to a computer; i need to activate "remote desktop" from command line; any idea how i can do that+
[14:26] <Hans_Henrik> ?
[14:27] <Bsims> Minor problem, I can't ssh into my computer, ssh localhost works when I am on it, anyone have an idea?
[14:27] <paopao> well..
[14:27] <Bsims> Hans_Henrik: vnc or xforwarding will work for ya
[14:27] <rbrooks> !hello
[14:28] <LjL> rbrooks: you can keep trying, but it won't start working
[14:28] <rbrooks> bsdfreak, did you disable firewals
[14:28] <Hans_Henrik> Bsims: ye.. so how do i activate vnc from ssh?
[14:28] <rbrooks> crap
[14:29] <bittin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiiLOKZLXz0 even
[14:29] <Bsims> Hans_Henrik if vnc is installed start it via screen iirc
[14:29] <Hans_Henrik> Bsims: i dont got access to the screen, i only got access via ssh
[14:30] <LjL> Hans_Henrik: "screen" is a program
[14:30] <rbrooks> no it is a program youu use
[14:30] <rbrooks> apt-get -i screen
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> what's -i ?
[14:31] <rbrooks> install?
[14:31] <rbrooks> crap thats wrong
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> apt-get install
[14:32] <rbrooks> ?
[14:32] <rbrooks> ok
[14:32] <ikonia> rbrooks: what's the issue ?
[14:32] <rbrooks> he needs to install screen
[14:32] <ikonia> !info screen
[14:32] <ikonia> rbrooks: sudo apt-get install screen
[14:33] <rbrooks> yep thats it!
[14:33] <ikonia> rbrooks: it's that simple
[14:33] <rbrooks> ahh
[14:33] <rbrooks> Hans_Henrik, ^^
[14:33] <rbrooks> -i is no work
[14:34] <rbrooks> ikonia, htnaks
[14:34] <GirlyGirl> Is it possible to have a clipboard in a tty? Stupid question I know, but just wondering
[14:34] <zykotick9> GirlyGirl: with screen you can
[14:36] <LjL> GirlyGirl: you can also with "gpm"
[14:36] <LjL> !info gpm
[14:36] <ikonia> does that actually have a clip board?
[14:36] <ikonia> I thought it was just a mouse driver for the tty, rather than a clipboard (1 cut and paste buffer)
[14:37] <rbrooks> yea it cut/paste
[14:37] <zykotick9> ikonia: gpm can highlight then left click to paste
[14:37] <LjL> ikonia: i really seem to recall you can copy and paste from it by default
[14:37] <ikonia> yeah, that's only one "line"
[14:37] <zykotick9> ikonia: sorry, right click ;)
[14:37] <ikonia> I didn't see that as a clipboard, I thought a clipboard was multiple items
[14:38] <LjL> ikonia: the "clipboard" as i always knew it is simply the copypaste buffer, might or might not support multiple items...
[14:38] <ikonia> LjL: just a wording miss-understanding
[14:42] <m4n_> guys, i searched on net and couldn't find a definitive solution so here i am. how to make sure ubuntu (10.04) does a disk fsck on reboot?
[14:42] <m4n_> any alternative for the "shutdown -rF now" command?
[14:42] <ikonia> m4n_: touch /.autofsk then reboot
[14:43] <m4n_> ikonia: can you tell me which script reads that? i read on net certain folks complaining about that method not working
[14:43] <rbrooks> touch /forcefsck
[14:43] <m4n_> yeah /forcefsck is the one i read about. right now, doing a grep for forsefsck in /etc
[14:43] <m4n_> no results so far
[14:44] <ikonia> m4n_: I'm not sure which actual init script reads it, I thought it was was a kernel thing upon boot
[14:44] <m4n_> wondering which init script is looking at it
[14:44] <ikonia> m4n_: I don't think it's a script for /forcefsck
[14:44] <ikonia> m4n_: I think it's a kernel thing when it does the initial mount
[14:44] <meerkats> one of my ntfs partitions (I have 2) doesnt have a mount point. Why?
[14:44] <m4n_> kernel? i doubt kernel doing that
[14:44] <ikonia> m4n_: why ?
[14:45] <ikonia> m4n_: it parses fstab and takes arguments for grub about what to mount and how
[14:45] <babble> it's not
[14:45] <babble> it's just a temporary file that gets deleted after fsck runs
[14:45] <ikonia> lets have a look
[14:45] <m4n_> ikonia: true. i dont know why i think so :)
[14:47] <ikonia> m4n_: on olod sysVinit machines it's rc.sysinit
[14:47] <ikonia> old
[14:48] <ikonia> so I'd assume the same is true on modern upstart systems too
[14:48] <m4n_> thats what i thought. but i dont see it anywhere in /etc
[14:48] <ikonia> m4n_: some quite good info on Redhat based systems, so it shouldn't be too hard to translate to Debian/Ubuntu based setups
[14:49] <aRaaa> Anyone about to give some advice?
[14:50] <bazhang> aRaaa, ask a question related to ubuntu
[14:50] <rbrooks> ok
[14:51] <rbrooks> i think he just wan tsome advise
[14:51] <aRaaa> Basically, iv installed GuilWard, Iv got the icon on the desktop. Im using Ubuntu 11.10 on an iMac. And when i try to launch GuildWars, the small loading window appears and loads to 100, but then does nothing else, it just wont go no further
[14:51] <aRaaa> Im just wondering if theres something iv missed?
[14:52] <aRaaa> GuildWars
[14:52] <rbrooks> it should work...
[14:52] <aRaaa> **
[14:52] <rbrooks> in wine, glitchy button textures iirc
[14:52] <auronandace> aRaaa: is that a windows game? if so try looking in the appdb for wine
[14:52] <auronandace> !appdb
[14:53] <rbrooks> i advise you to play it in windows
[14:53] <aRaaa> But what exactly am i looking for, and change?
[14:53] <asad2005> how can i change folders and subfolder permition with chmod +x without affecting normal files. i mean only folders
[14:53] <belkhouja> bjr tt le monde je suis entrain d'installer bootpxe sur un centos je voulé que les ordinateur qui vont étre connécté en reseaux utilise ubuntu desktop alors jai bien ajouté le dossier ubuntu é limage execute mais a la fin il maffiche une erreur  busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) ...(initramfs)
[14:53] <Xabster> !wine
[14:53] <llutz_> asad2005: chmod -R +X dir/
[14:53] <llutz_> asad2005: uppercase x
[14:53] <OerHeks> !fr | belkhouja
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: that will do files too
[14:54] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: man chmod
[14:54] <belkhouja> merci
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: or is -X for folders only? freaky
[14:54] <m4n_> asad2005: find /path -type d -exec chmod 755 {} +
[14:54] <asad2005> will this affect files or just folders
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> m4n_: yeah, i'd have gone that way
[14:54] <aRaaa> And where do i find appdb you mentioned?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: reading man
[14:54] <rbrooks> they arent 'folders'
[14:55] <OerHeks> !appdb | aRaaa
[14:56] <aRaaa> Would switching to Linux from Ubuntu make a difference?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> aRaaa  Ubuntu *is* a Linux distro
[14:57] <droid-0854> As far as chmod can help you complete tasks faster u should take time to learn chgrp chmod and learn about inode
[14:57] <auronandace> aRaaa: what are you talking about?
[14:57] <aRaaa> Yeah but i thought Linux created Ubuntu, but they wer seperate operating system. I dont know alot about this
[14:57] <compdoc> naw
[14:57] <gsommer> php5-imap seems to be compiled with kerberos support. When connecting to an imap server, the connection will try kerberos first (which will fail, as the system does not use kerberos). I cannot uninstall kerberos support, as php and apache seems to depend on this. How can I then get around this?
[14:58] <babble> Ubuntu is to Linux as Pepsi is to beverages.
[14:58] <rbrooks> there was a Linux war' in 1088
[14:58] <compdoc> Ubuntu is just one flavor of Linux
[14:58] <ktml78> glasz, output di lsusb:Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d8e:7802 Global Sun Technology, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[14:58] <babble> Ubuntu is a linux distribution, among many others.
[14:58] <auronandace> aRaaa: linux is a kernel, the core of the operating system, ubuntu uses linux as its kernel
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> aRaaa  offtopic: then kindly start here http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[14:58] <rbrooks> around the time of the 'dark ages'
[14:59] <sskalnik__> If I install a package, then modify or replace a file it installed, will I break the package install?
[14:59] <auronandace> rbrooks: stop the offtopic please
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: linux is the kernel, the thing around it is the distribution
[14:59] <aRaaa> Well i just wanna get GW running. but it doesnt seem to happen
[15:00] <droid-0854> Sskalnik,  you need to get all the links exact.
[15:00] <auronandace> aRaaa: then ask in #wine like you have been told
[15:00] <bazhang> #winehq actually
[15:00] <aRaaa> Yes sir...
[15:00] <droid-0854> Symbolic and Hard
[15:00] <rbrooks> it doesnt matter you cannt see the buttons they all look same
[15:00] <auronandace> bazhang: thanks
[15:00] <rbrooks> to hard tpo play GW in wine
[15:00] <glasz> ktml78: sorry i dint get it?
[15:01] <rbrooks> i just read box and it req dx8?
[15:01] <meerkats> I have 3 partitions in a esb stick: 1 EXT4 and 2 NTFS: one NTFS does not show any mount point, why?
[15:02] <droid-0854> ESB?
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  maybe you have to mount it manually
[15:02] <auronandace> he means usb
[15:02] <meerkats> yes, usb, and I cannot sudo mount /dev/sdb3: mount: can't find /dev/sdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:03] <meerkats> I have tried with gparted, but I cannot either
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  what's the outcome of sudo fdisk -l ? use pastebin
[15:03] <llutz_> meerkats: you need to specify a mountpoint
[15:04] <meerkats> MonkeyDust, pastebin for 3 lines of text?
[15:05] <d0lph1nk1ng> hello!
[15:05] <rbrooks> hi
[15:05] <droid-0854> Yo!
[15:05] <d0lph1nk1ng> i'm trying out irssi... pretty sweet
[15:05] <meerkats> there http://pastebin.com/N3vBpMt1
[15:06] <rbrooks> meh
[15:06] <rbrooks> i like weechat
[15:06] <meerkats> sdb3 is the one that cannot be miunted
[15:06] <meerkats> mounted
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  create a folder with an easy name and then type sudo mount /dev/sda3 [that name]
[15:07] <d0lph1nk1ng> @rbrooks, why is that one so good?
[15:07] <rbrooks> greater functionality in ncurses
[15:07] <meerkats> MonkeyDust, I assume you want me to create a folder in dev/sdb3...
[15:07] <auronandace> meerkats: no, he wants you to create a mountpoint
[15:08] <meerkats> in dev/sda3?
[15:08] <sskalnik__> droid-0854:  I do not fully comprehend. I understand hard and symlinks, but I do not understand the answer as a whole.
[15:08] <llutz_> meerkats: you need to specify a mountpoint (sudo mkdir /media/sdb3 && sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /media/sdb3)
[15:08] <droid-0854> meerkats, might need sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb3 /mnt/yourfolder
[15:08] <hwilde> how do I change my default shell to bash?
[15:08] <szal> rbrooks: Weechat is nice, but it has one, imho important, unaddressed shortcoming (in fact, a bug report on this issue was turned down) - the way it breaks lines, that's a lot prettier in Irssi
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  no, in your personal folder
[15:08] <Pici> hwilde: run chsh
[15:08] <auronandace> meerkats: sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /your/mnt/point
[15:08] <rbrooks> same interface (ncurses, but more stuff
[15:08] <hwilde> Pici, permanently
[15:08] <Pici> hwilde: That will do it permanently.
[15:08] <rbrooks> szal, ok thats interesting
[15:08] <FrozenMind> Meerkats -- create the mounting folder in a place like /mnt or /mount or ~/ and then use mount /dev/sd(blah) to /mnt/(folder name here)
[15:09] <hwilde> Pici, not changing the simlinks in /bin ?
[15:09] <rbrooks> i havent used in so long...
[15:09] <Pici> hwilde: Er, not it updates your user's entry in /etc/passwd
[15:09] <Pici> s/not/no/
[15:09] <droid-0854> !! mount -t ntfs  !!
[15:09] <mike2> i just switched to weechat from irsii.  I much prefer weechat too.
[15:10] <rbrooks> i did like irssi barebonesness, but weechat seemed more advnce
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> <3 irssi
[15:10] <meerkats> many thanks to all for the complete explanations llutz droid-0854 MonkeyDust FrozenMind
[15:10] <lubosz> hi. is there any other way to restart all of usb than reloading the kernel module? because it is compiled into the kernel. FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin
[15:10] <droid-0854> Woot
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> pidgin here, or irssi when i'm at work
[15:11] <meerkats> I took the easiest choice with llutz's command
[15:11] <d0lph1nk1ng> hmmm, maybe i'll give it a try then
[15:11] <asteve> i'm trying to start Xvfb and I keep receiving the following error: "Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!"; i've been searching google and every article i've read suggest installing packages that are already installed - has anyone seen this issue before?
[15:11] <mike2> and bitlbee for IM
[15:11] <d0lph1nk1ng> hi ubottu
[15:14] <d0lph1nk1ng> msg rbrooks can u plz say my name so i can see what the highlighting looks like?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> d0lph1nk1ng
[15:14] <Pici> !offtopic
[15:14] <d0lph1nk1ng> thanks MonkeyDust, and i hate this keyboard btw
[15:15] <rebe> sudo apt-get upgrade does the same thing as "system up to date" from menu ?
[15:16] <rbrooks> d0lph1nk1ng, hey you can use screen, and someone else mentioned bittlbee...  with irssi
[15:16] <rbrooks> screen, irssi, bittlbee
[15:17] <compdoc> rebe, not sure its the same - maybe. It tells apt-get to check for updates and apply them if you say yes
[15:17] <m112> vcem zdravctvovat'
[15:17] <LukeNukem_> Hello i need a solution for this
[15:17] <LukeNukem_> there are certain folders i only want php and me to access
[15:17] <m112> am tyt bperbie
[15:17] <auronandace> rebe: sudo apt-get update checks to see if there are updates and sudo apt-get upgrade installs them, the system update utility does both
[15:17] <LukeNukem_> anyone from outside should not access it and should get forbidden message
[15:17] <LukeNukem_> how can id o this
[15:18] <m112> help me?
[15:18] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: lock down the permissions to a group that only you and the web server are in
[15:18] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, yeah im having some kind of issues with that
[15:18] <LukeNukem_> i should use chmod ?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> m112  ask a question, so we can help
[15:18] <ikonia> chown and chmod
[15:18] <d0lph1nk1ng> ah, weechat looks pretty nice
[15:18] <rebe> ok thanks guys
[15:18] <m112> hello
[15:19] <ikonia> make a group, add yourself and the webserver to that group, make the owner you:newgroup, make the permissions 770
[15:19] <ikonia> or however extreme you want the permissions
[15:19] <m112> ?
[15:19] <m112> ruusia?
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> !ru| m112
[15:20] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, do i leave file access to ---
[15:20] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: what ?
[15:20] <ikonia> file access --- ?
[15:21] <szal> LukeNukem_: define '---'
[15:21] <ikonia> define file access
[15:21] <LukeNukem_> huh
[15:21] <llutz_> pretty safe to have chmod 000 ...
[15:21] <LukeNukem_> what does 000 d
[15:21] <LukeNukem_> do*
[15:21] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: don't do 000
[15:21] <rbrooks> d0lph1nk1ng, <szal> rbrooks: Weechat is nice, but it has one, imho important, unaddressed shortcoming (in fact, a bug report on this issue was turned down) - the way it breaks lines, that's a lot prettier in Irssi
[15:21] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, in the options there are file access ---
[15:21] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: I've given you the permissions and how to do it, what part are you not clear with
[15:21] <wylde> LukeNukem: use terminal not nautilus
[15:21] <rbrooks> if you missed
[15:22] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: how are you setting the permissions ?
[15:22] <rbrooks> i liked it
[15:22] <rbrooks> but i didnt notice this bug :/
[15:22] <LukeNukem_> this is stupid, i set others to none access
[15:22] <Robinux> is there an ad-blocks add on/extension for chrome/chromium?
[15:22] <szal> rbrooks: it's not exactly a bug, more of an inconveniency
[15:22] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: how are you setting the permissions ?
[15:22] <LukeNukem_> and it can still be accessed via the brwoser
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, chown via terminal
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> other stuff normally
[15:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: what chown command did you use ?
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> chown :webcoders /var/www/
[15:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: that's not what I said do
[15:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: chown $user:group
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> ^what does that do
[15:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you need the "owner":"group owner"
[15:23] <szal> rbrooks: you see what I mean if you compare lines copied from the chat window and the behaviour for long URLs in Irssi and Weechat
[15:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: so chown luke:webcoder
[15:24] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: better still, chown -R (recuersive)
[15:24] <ikonia> recursive
[15:24] <LukeNukem_> i tried marshall:webcoder
[15:24] <LukeNukem_> it says invalid group
[15:24] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: grep webcoder /etc/group
[15:24] <LukeNukem_> okay it was webcoders
[15:24] <LukeNukem_> ok i set the chown
[15:24] <ikonia> there we go
[15:25] <LukeNukem_> ok i have this includes folder
[15:25] <LukeNukem_> i want that to be accessible by me and php
[15:25] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you've said that
[15:25] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: do what I told you
[15:25] <LukeNukem_> if anybody try to view that through browser, it should show forbidden
[15:26] <LukeNukem_> i got includes folder, the directory is being shown :s
[15:26] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you'll need to lock that at the webserver level then, as "php" is the webserver, so if the webserver can "read" it it will be displayed
[15:26] <rbrooks> szal, i see...  ncurses interface makes changes difficult for devs??  hehe
[15:26] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, not necessarily, i have seen many websites lock the folders and yet server has access to it
[15:26] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you'll need to code some sort of security either before that page, or into the web server config
[15:26] <LukeNukem_> owner will be set to www-data
[15:26] <LukeNukem_> or a group
[15:26] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: yes, and I've just told you how they do it
[15:26] <LukeNukem_> brb
[15:27] <Spec> do you need read permission to execute php? :p
[15:27] <Spec> oh, if they're includes, i suppose you would.
[15:28] <Nonmipiaceilnick> salve a tutti
[15:28] <szal> !it | Nonmipiaceilnick
[15:29] <szal> Nonmipiaceilnick: and if you don't like your nick, change it, so what? :P
[15:29] <gain_> hi all
[15:29] <m112> help me?seacher russia people
[15:29] <droid-0854> Yo
[15:29] <nujabes> hey guys I'm a total noob at tar balls and the readme file don't help much. I've unpackaged it, what do i do now?
[15:29] <szal> !ru | m112
[15:30] <razor__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11777573#post11777573 can anyone help out?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !ru| m112
[15:30] <szal> MonkeyDust: you have a lag there :P
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> szal  i'm getting old :p
[15:31] <m112> helps
[15:31] <neyder_> hi! how do i do that an user login without password in lightdm using command line? I have to do it for 100 machines so i cant login in each and use user accounts in graphic mode
[15:31] <OerHeks> nujabes, the read.me should give you instructions, pastbin it please?
[15:31] <bazhang> m112, you have been told, and even joined the channel
[15:31] <bazhang> m112, /join #ubuntu-ru (again)
[15:32] <gain_> ls
[15:33] <m112> ubuntu-ru not help
[15:33] <gain_> anyone is using ubuntu 12.04?
[15:33] <Nach0z> nope
[15:33] <ikonia> gain_: the guys in #ubuntu+1 are
[15:33] <bazhang> m112, you did not ask a question there
[15:33] <gain_> ikonia: thanks
[15:33] <razor__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11777573#post11777573 can anyone help out?
[15:34] <m112> wats?
[15:34] <bazhang> m112, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:34] <m112> who?
[15:35] <m112> i need help is linux
[15:35] <m112> yes
[15:35] <bazhang> m112, then ask, all on ONE line
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> and in english
[15:35] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, i wanna do something like owner - full access others - no access
[15:36] <m112> wat line?
[15:36] <droid-0854> razor__, have you booted from a live cd to get a look at the grub menu?
[15:36] <meerkats> how can I make a NTFS partition windows readable and editable?
[15:36] <nujabes> OerHeks, what do you mean by pastbin? sry noob
[15:36] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: ok, so chmod 700
[15:36] <meerkats> it says its owned by root
[15:36] <OerHeks> !pastebin
[15:36] <m112> one line
[15:37] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, it must apply to entire /var/www folder
[15:37] <kaiserfarrell_> hi, can i ask about qt here?
[15:37] <LukeNukem_> i mean the folders inside too
[15:37] <m112> seacher russia help
[15:37] <razor__> droid-0854, not clear what you mean
[15:37] <auronandace> meerkats: if it is ntfs then windows should automatically mount it (more windows specific help in ##windows)
[15:38] <nujabes> ???
[15:38] <meerkats> auronandace, even if its owned by root? yesterday I had problems with it (i wasnt recognized)
[15:38] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: chmor -R then
[15:39] <carl_> I have a question about running a java application as a service.
[15:39] <carl_> I need to create the startup script.
[15:39] <ikonia> you don't, java is not a "service"
[15:39] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, what is -R
[15:39] <auronandace> meerkats: root is not a windows concept, i don't understand what you mean
[15:39] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: recursive as I told you earlier
[15:39] <razor__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11777573#post11777573 can anyone help out?
[15:39] <LukeNukem_> what does i t do
[15:40] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: changes recursivly into the directories
[15:40] <nujabes> OerHeks, okay i got what you mean now how do i do it?
[15:40] <carl_> ok, I need a java application to start with the box starts up.
[15:40] <auronandace> meerkats: windows will simply see a ntfs partition and mount it read/write for your user
[15:40] <carl_> I was planing on using monit to make sure it remail\ns up and running.
[15:40] <meerkats> auronandace, ok, ill give it a try... btw, I have a tails copy in this same usb stick and a third EXT4 partition: I dont expect windows to read or mount ext4 and tails, but I do expect it to read NTFS
[15:40] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, chmod -R /var/www?
[15:40] <OerHeks> nujabes, paste the read.me in paste.ubuntu.com and give the url here.
[15:41] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: NO!
[15:41] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: come on, please try to pay attention
[15:41] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: chmod -R 700
[15:41] <bittin> back home
[15:41] <LukeNukem_> ok
[15:42] <nujabes> OerHeks, thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/890814/
[15:42] <wylde> LukeNukem_: man chown   and/or man chmod  <--- read, you should a least attempt to educate yourself rather then be spoon fed every step. ... Just sayin...
[15:42] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, ok php gets permission denied :|
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> www-data is php user right/
[15:43] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: that is the webserver user, yes
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> well
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> webserver cant access the files
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> :\
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> permission denied
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> :|||
[15:43] <FloodBot1> LukeNukem_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:43] <pfifo> -_-
[15:43] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: who is the owner of that directory ?
[15:43] <LukeNukem_> marshall - Marshall
[15:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: ok - so what do  you expect
[15:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you've just changed the permissions so only the owner has access,
[15:44] <LukeNukem_> but group: webcoders
[15:44] <LukeNukem_> webcoders has www-data and marshall in it
[15:44] <OerHeks> nujabes, it is easy, open terminal, cd into the folder where you extracted the tar, and execute android-sdk with 'android'
[15:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: 15:35 < LukeNukem_> ikonia, i wanna do something like owner - full access others - no access
[15:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you said I want the "OWNER" to have full access
[15:44] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: I've just given the owner full access
[15:45] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: the owner is not www-data - what do you expec to happen
[15:45] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: think about what you are saying/asking for
[15:45] <wylde> LukeNukem_: ikonia already to you, for that kind of setting you need to change settings in your webserver config. If it's apache2 see /etc/apache2/sites-available/default and try googling apache2 <directory>
[15:45] <LukeNukem_> i meant i wanted to set owner to the group
[15:46] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: you can't do that
[15:46] <nujabes> OerHeks, That's it? awesome thanks, but I'd like to put the file somewhere besides my download file. should i just drop it in my home directory?
[15:46] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: the owner is an individual
[15:46] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: a group is a collection of users
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> LukeNukem_  that sounds like basics, why not learn the basics online, first, there are plenty tutorials
[15:46] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, so i have to use vsever config ?
[15:46] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: the format is "owner:group"
[15:46] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: no, you need to change the permissions within either the webserver as an application, or put a permissions application around it
[15:46] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, if i set owner to www, and then set chmod to 770
[15:47] <OerHeks> nujabes, you can put it anywere into your ~/home
[15:47] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: file system permissions are no the way to do that
[15:47] <wylde> MonkeyDust: I thin khe wants to been spoonfed every step rather than even attempt to educate himself, IMHO
[15:48] <kaziweb> msg nickserv help
[15:50] <LukeNukem_> ok i did the following
[15:50] <LukeNukem_> chown -R www-data:webcoders /var/www
[15:50] <LukeNukem_> and then
[15:50] <anthalamus> hi all, is there a non-sudo requiring, user-specific, counterpart to /etc/init.d/? something that would run scripts upon logging in as particular user?
[15:50] <LukeNukem_> chmod -R 775 /var/www
[15:50] <LukeNukem_> "D
[15:50] <LukeNukem_> :D
[15:51] <abhinavmehta> Just now, I've installed dual-boot windows-vista and next Ubuntu 10.4 LTS…installation was fine and smooth….but now on the first reboot, its displaying blank screen after GRUB-screen
[15:51] <abhinavmehta> ..whats wrong with my installation.?
[15:51] <LukeNukem_> that looks fine ikonia ?
[15:51] <asteve> i'm trying to start Xvfb and I keep receiving the following error: "Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!"; i've been searching google and every article i've read suggest installing packages that are already installed - has anyone seen this issue before?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: what gpu do you use?
[15:52] <abhinavmehta> its Nvidia 9600
[15:52] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: I told you, it's not something you'll do with file system permissions
[15:52] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, well, the forbidden thingie i will do that with .htaccess
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:52] <LukeNukem_> does the perms look fine otherwise?
[15:52] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: is there a reason you are not listening to what I'm telling you ?
[15:52] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: no, looks bad
[15:52] <mdpatrick> I have a service being automatically started via init.d… how do I provide my binary (varnished) with various start time arguments?????
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: after the first boot you can install the proprietary driver and be ok
[15:53] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: ok..lemme try
[15:53] <LukeNukem_> ikonia, the owner and group can read and write, others can only access
[15:53] <LukeNukem_> i will forbid access using .htaccess from apache
[15:53] <ikonia> LukeNukem_: up to you what you do
[15:57] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: I pressed 'c' at GRUB, and it pop-up with text box, with some pre-written entries…I've added "nouveau.blacklist=1" as the last line, and hit Ctrl+X……again blank-screen. Doing something wrong..?
[15:58] <arvinder> using COBOl in ubuntu????
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: hold SHIFT at boot, press E to (e)dit the line, delete: quiet splash   then add the boot option in it's place
[15:59] <abhinavmehta> ahaaa...ok
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> !info open-cobol
[15:59] <nujabes> I'm trying to get conky to work. ran in terminal, said no config, but i check the file and it looks okay
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> arvinder: people still use Cobol in 2012?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> nujabes: do you have ~/.conkyrc
[16:00] <bazhang> nujabes, checked the conky's beginner guide yet?
[16:00] <meerkats>  in Windows you can't use more than 1 partition on a USB pen unless you mount it as non-removable
[16:00] <meerkats> is that true?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: Windows is offtopic here, ask in ##windows
[16:00] <bazhang> meerkats, ##windows for that please
[16:00] <nujabes> bazhang, yeah or what i thought was the beginner guide
[16:00] <nujabes> bazhang, is it on conky's site?
[16:01] <arvinder> no dude...i m just wants to know about cobol
[16:01] <bazhang> nujabes, ubuntuforums
[16:01] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: before "quite splash", there is something like "a75-72ba46bf5236 ro" is also written..should I delete that text too..?
[16:01] <meerkats> okok
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: just delete quiet splash and put it in it's place
[16:02] <nujabes> ActionParsnip, thats in my home folder?
[16:02] <FloatingGoat> how do i get java to work on ubuntu 12.04
[16:02] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, cobol is awesom, i got a huge stack of punch cards for a pong game
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> nujabes: yes, ~/.conkyrc == /home/$USER/.conkyrc == $HOME/.conkyrc
[16:02] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: Thanks..it worked.
[16:02] <abhinavmehta> :)
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> FloatingGoat  #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <FloatingGoat> meerkats: does that mean there is currently no way?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: now you have a desktop, you can install the proprietary driver and you won't need the boot option
[16:03] <waxstone> pfifo: wow@cobol user ;P
[16:03] <nujabes> ActionParsnip, yeah it's not there. I have to make that file right?
[16:03] <pfifo> waxstone, i was j/k
[16:03] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: but surprising, that I never encountered with this ever before….I've installed LTS 10.4 so many times….
[16:03] <meerkats> FloatingGoat, I just repeated what somebody in ##windows
[16:04] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: hmm...
[16:04] <FloatingGoat> oh
[16:04] <meerkats> and apparently it cant, I yesterday tried it and it didnt work
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: the display timings were moved into the kernel. newer versions have this issue and is why lucid was ok
[16:04] <FrozenMind> meerkats: that would be a good reason as to why you were having trouble earlier o.O
[16:05] <mneptok> meerkats: what Windows does and does not do it offtopic for an Ubuntu support channel. at any time.
[16:05] <meerkats> most probably FrozenMind
[16:05] <shejuexi> 大家好
[16:05] <mneptok> !cn | shejuexi
[16:05] <razor__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11777573#post11777573 can anyone help out?
[16:05] <shejuexi> ./join
[16:05] <abhinavmehta> ActionParsnip: ohhkk…anyways, thanks once again for your kind inputs. :)
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> abhinavmehta: np man
[16:06] <shejuexi> 现在防火墙怎么设置
[16:06] <bazhang> !ufw > shejuexi
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> !jp| shejuexi
[16:07] <bazhang> shejuexi, english here, chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[16:07] <mneptok> (xie xie)
[16:07] <bazhang> shejuexi, if you want a gui for ufw install gufw
[16:08] <razor__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11777573#post11777573 can anyone help out?
[16:09] <sambagirl> is there a news screenlet for ubuntu?
[16:10] <bazhang> sambagirl, rss feed?
[16:11] <sambagirl> bazhang well something that would give news headlines something like that
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> razor__: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[16:11] <sambagirl> i am fixing up ths laptop for my mom and i discovered these servlets
[16:11] <sambagirl> someone mentioned lubuntu
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  i use liferea (linux fead reader)
[16:12] <bazhang> http://screenlets.org/index.php/Category:UserScreenlets   sambagirl take a look, should be
[16:12] <sambagirl> does it have like a widget to put on the desktop that can be changed in size?
[16:12] <sambagirl> thanks
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> widgets and eyecandy are too girly-girly, i don't use them ;)
[16:12] <sambagirl> oh i have seen that already bazhang
[16:13] <sambagirl> it's for my mom monkeydust
[16:13] <sambagirl> otherwise i will have to purchase her a macbook ;D
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> female logic :p
[16:13] <razor__> actionparsnip it doesn't work
[16:13] <mneptok> MonkeyDust: please do not beat the channel with your Y chromosome.
[16:13] <sambagirl> heh
[16:14] <razor__> actionparsnip: it doesn't work grub-install /dev/sdc just freezes there
[16:14] <FrozenMind> sambagirl: why not use something like google reader?
[16:14] <sambagirl> i'll look into it frozenmind
[16:14] <sambagirl> brb
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> is the ram healthy?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> razor__: is the drive healthy?
[16:15] <razor__> actionparsnip: Yes everything worked until i restarted after upgrade
[16:15] <bummer> hi, how can i edit synaptics touchpad settings file? where is it located?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> razor__: i suggest you check both
[16:15] <FrozenMind> sambagirl: that way she has her RSS feeds and what-nots all at a click of a url :) and you can actually tie everything into Google Chrome  as well as Mozilla with a few plug ins o.O!
[16:15] <nujabes> razor, what did you upgrade to?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> FrozenMind: firefox, you mean ;)
[16:16] <razor__> actionparsnip: how do i check them lol soz kind of nub
[16:16] <sambagirl>  frozenmind i was actually preferring to have some kind of thing that is on the desktop that she can see and click on.
[16:16] <sambagirl> let me look around
[16:16] <nujabes> bummer, should be in the etc file
[16:16] <razor__> actionparsnip: The upgrade froze on the grub part so i killed it and restarted btw
[16:17] <bummer> etc folder, is that what you mean?
[16:17] <FrozenMind> ActionParsnip: No I ment Mozilla, cause you can use Firefox as well as Thunderbird
[16:17] <nujabes> bummer, /etc
[16:17] <FrozenMind> and that last post was to have a smile, but my pinky hit the enter key faster then my hands could type :P
[16:18] <bummer> nujabes, but there is no settings found for synaptics touchpad!
[16:18] <nujabes> bummer, what wrong with it?
[16:19] <nujabes> bummer, the touchpad i mean
[16:19] <bummer> i want to add even more options to the touchpad, like side scroll, round scroll etc...
[16:20] <FrozenMind> sambagirl: so I am guessing you are looking for something like this? -- http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/17/os-x-like-widgets-with-screenlets-on-ubuntu-3rd-update/
[16:20] <bummer> i mean circular scroll.
[16:20] <sambagirl> yep my upgrade terminated abnormally too. but it offered me the option to load an earlier build
[16:20] <sambagirl> let me look Phrozen Ghost
[16:21] <sambagirl> reminds me of hacker
[16:21] <gfc> need
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> bummer  try this http://live.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings
[16:22] <bummer> MonkeyDust, thanks iam checking it..
[16:22] <koko_> need help for my PDC with samba
[16:22] <koko_> http://pastebin.com/DYfbaXiH
[16:24] <bummer> monkeydust, sorry to say, but i am looking to manually edit the config file. It was normally like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf
[16:24] <Onkeltem> hi all
[16:24] <pfifo> bummer, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf
[16:25] <bummer> pfifo, thanks, let me check it.
[16:26] <Onkeltem> I have two displays in nvidia TwinView mode. The problem is that only right screen really has workspaces - left one doesn't switch workspace and I see same windows
[16:26] <Onkeltem> Gnome 3/gnome-shell on Ubuntu 11.10
[16:27] <bummer> /usr/lib/X11 there is no /xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf Is this okay to create one?
[16:29] <user1>  what is tcp/ip and udp port numbers, pls tell
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> user1: of what service?
[16:30] <bummer> thanks for your support, i had manually created a folder and settings file, i will restart my system now.
[16:30] <FrozenMind> user1 you need to be more defined.... there are ports ranging from 1 to 65535
[16:31] <OerHeks> My problem: i would like to pair a HID lazer keyboard to my bluetooth, but it doesn't see it. >> http://www.vkb-support.com/index.php . Is there an alternative BT manager ?
[16:31] <Halexander9000> Greetings Gentlehumans! I found my old copy of San Andreas and wanted to play in with WINE. Problem is, when I start the game, it fades to white then black for three times and then the menu entries are all rectangles. I tried to guess where the New Game entry was and it crashed. Can anyone please give me a solution?
[16:31] <ikonia> Halexander9000: use windows for windows games
[16:31] <bazhang> Halexander9000, /join #winehq after checking the appdb
[16:32] <bazhang> !appdb | Halexander9000
[16:32] <Halexander9000> ikonia: ...
[16:33] <bazhang> Halexander9000, #winehq is for particular app support
[16:33] <meerkats> I dont know how, but now the usb stick has a /dev/sdc1 partition, and 2 icons appear on my desktop that correspond to sdb3 and sdb1, partitions that no longer exist, what have I've been messing with?
[16:35] <Halexander9000> bazhang: I checked the appdb and it said it's platinum.
[16:35] <FrozenMind> meerkats, when you put the use stick into the windows computer, did you tell it to fix disk or something? cause windows should not have touched it unless you told it to... but then again... it likes to touch anything... o.O
[16:35] <bazhang> Halexander9000, and you should get help in #winehq as I mentioned
[16:36] <Halexander9000> bazhang: Help is really slow then.
[16:36] <FrozenMind> use = usb* disobedient fingers... i have them...
[16:36] <meerkats> FrozenMind, windows didnt recognize the NTFS usb stick without partitions...
[16:36] <bazhang> Halexander9000, be patient
[16:36] <Resistance> Halexander9000: patience is a requirement :P
[16:37] <Halexander9000> bazhang: Resistance: Can I also be persistent?
[16:38] <FrozenMind> meerkats: more then likely when you plug it in after you used it on ubuntu, windows smeared its... uh... lovingness... all over it... that or the mount didn't occur correctly... o.O type in "mount" and see if you have it mounted correctly...
[16:38] <meerkats> well, at least the damn windowd recognizes the usb... (Offtopic I knoww, Ill shut up now)
[16:39] <kaziweb> hi
[16:40] <kaziweb> test
[16:41] <FrozenMind> the testing of Ubuntu is a delicate process kaziweb... how may we help you today?
[16:41] <kaziweb> test
[16:43] <Pici> !test | kaziweb
[16:46] <kaziweb> test
[16:47] <Aikar> trying to install ubuntu on Samsung RC512 Laptop - I hit "Install Ubuntu" and get black screen. Ive tried nomodeset, removed queit and nosplash, and also tried xforcevesa, any ideas?
[16:47] <kaziweb> test
[16:47] <Aikar> I also have an SSD which may be affecting things
[16:48] <pfifo> Aikar, maybe its using an external monitor port by default on accident?
[16:48] <satyanash> How do I sort a column in LibreOffice
[16:48] <satyanash> I mean, where is the sort selection menu/button ?
[16:49] <Aikar> how would i change that O.o
[16:49] <pfifo> Aikar, my laptop has a function button for it, you could also plug in a monitor
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: what GPU do you use?
[16:51] <drvanon_> they say my apt sounds broken, is there anyway to repair it?
[16:52] <drvanon_> (broken because: gzip: /home/drvanon/.cache/apt-file/nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_Contents-i386.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated)
[16:52] <FrozenMind> Aikar: Do you have another monitor plugged into the computer as you are installing? if no then ActionParsnip's question will more then likely point us in the right direction
[16:53] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: its dedicated but also has an integrated chip too i believe? http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP-RC512-S01US
[16:53] <drvanon_> sorry, ActionParnsnip
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> drvanon_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890917/
[16:53] <drvanon_> what's that
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: oh jeez those dual GPUs are a pain
[16:54] <drvanon_> ActionParsnip: should i excute all that?
[16:54] <MechanisM> hello I'm very sad that ppa:chromium-daily/ppa is not maintained anymore. anyone know maintained repos for latest chromium builds? Or where I can apply to maintainers for chromium daily?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: indeed
[16:57] <drvanon_> ActionParsnip: is sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status meant to take long?
[16:58] <MechanisM> aliens kidnapped them https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+mugshots
[16:58] <Somnath> Hello :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> drvanon_: its a file copy, should be quick
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> drvanon_: unless your file is big
[16:59] <Halexander9000> Greetings Gentlehumans! I found my old copy of San Andreas and wanted to play in with WINE. Problem is, when I start the game, it fades to white then black for three times and then the menu entries are all rectangles. I tried to guess where the New Game entry was and it crashed. Can anyone please give me a solution? My machine is a 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook with Intel(R) 915GM graphics.
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> appdb| Halexander9000
[17:00] <auronandace> !appdb | Halexander9000
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Halexander9000: did you check the appdb?
[17:00] <bazhang> Halexander9000, yes, #winehq for particular apps
[17:01] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: Appdb said that GTAIII:San Andreas is platinum.
[17:01] <Zaitzev> I don't get how Flash 11 that is supposed to work on 64-bit systems are still broken.
[17:02] <drvanon_> ActionParsnip: all the rm ing sound scary
[17:03] <auronandace> Zaitzev: ask adobe
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> drvanon_: it just deletes the knowledge of ANY packages on the system, then you pull them down again
[17:03] <diminoten> how reliable is apt?
[17:03] <Zaitzev> well, I think it's more of an issue with the installation..
[17:03] <auronandace> diminoten: define reliable
[17:04] <diminoten> will it ever misreport dependencies
[17:04] <llutz_> diminoten: if packages are broken, it will
[17:04] <mneptok> diminoten: dependencies are defined in packages, not by apt.
[17:04] <auronandace> diminoten: stick to just the official repos and that will never happen
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> diminoten  start from the beginning, what makes you ask that question
[17:04] <diminoten> well git-core, for example, does not list openssl as a dep
[17:05] <diminoten> but will install it, and will remove openssl when uninstalled
[17:05] <diminoten> so I might have a repo that's weird?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> drvanon_: its basically the package fix doc from the ubuntu pages in a script
[17:06] <auronandace> diminoten: are you using a ppa
[17:06] <Zaitzev> According to the Adobe testpage, flash is installed and "working", but on most (not all) flashvideos I get either an error, or it doesn't want to start playing. And I know the video is there, tested it on a windows pc..
[17:06] <drvanon_> well Nice
[17:06] <diminoten> not that I know of
[17:06] <maloik> After alternate install it seems grub fails to install its bootloader. I run a bios raid0 setup which I suspect to be the issue. Any ideas on what I could try ?
[17:06] <diminoten> all out-of-the-box repos, afaik
[17:06] <diminoten> let me check
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> diminoten  for a start, it says here: "git-core" has been renamed to "git"
[17:07] <diminoten> how recently?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> drvanon_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:07] <diminoten> (I'm in 10.04 if that's helpful)
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> diminoten  type apt-cache show git-core and you'll see
[17:07] <Halexander9000> Greetings Gentlehumans! I found my old copy of San Andreas and wanted to play in with WINE. Problem is, when I start the game, it fades to white then black for three times and then the menu entries are all rectangles. I tried to guess where the New Game entry was and it crashed. Can anyone please give me a solution? My machine is a 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook with Intel(R) 915GM graphics.
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> ah 10.04 may be different
[17:08] <diminoten> sorry I didn't say that up front heh
[17:08] <bazhang> !repeat | Halexander9000
[17:08] <neohaven> Hello there #ubuntu. Quick question. Is there a simple way to get a complete (including DNS) DHCP response before run-init in an initramfs?
[17:08] <nujabes> diminoten, i know pachages in my 10.10 are different form 11.04 and 11.10
[17:09] <diminoten> yeah, it's definitely different
[17:09] <diminoten> because apt-cache show git
[17:09] <diminoten> gives nothing
[17:09] <nujabes> and the repo is different too
[17:09] <auronandace> !info git-core lucid
[17:10] <diminoten> so it doesn't depend on openssl
[17:10] <diminoten> or so it claims
[17:11] <nujabes> diminoten, what the name of the package?
[17:11] <diminoten> huh, doesn't attempt to remove openssl either
[17:11] <diminoten> I think I'm actually just having a communication thing
[17:11] <diminoten> with my coworker heh
[17:11] <aresz> hello
[17:12] <aresz> How to kill all processes in screen -ls
[17:12] <Cristian> ciao
[17:12] <Porkman> hi
[17:12] <thirdspace> hi guys
[17:12] <aresz> How to kill all processes in screen -ls
[17:13] <Aikar> anyone got any ideas on what else to try with black screen after pressing "Install Ubuntu" ? Samsung RC512 Laptop with SSD. I've tried nomodeset, nosplash, noquiet, leaving splash/queit off, gfxpayload=text, hooking external monitor up to see if it was getting the picture, noveuau.modeset=0 and vesafb.nonsense=1
[17:13] <Porkman> stupid question, i suck at linux and ubuntu in general - is there a way to set a key to become the meta key? I wanna play nethack =(
[17:14] <sambagirl> aikar are you sure your source media is good?
[17:14] <Aikar> i just fresh burned it this weekend o.o
[17:15] <Aikar> DVD-Rw should be fine right...
[17:15] <sambagirl>  did you try it on another system to verify it's good?
[17:15] <pfifo> Aikar, if all else fails install with the alternat installer
[17:15] <nujabes> aikar try unetbootin with a flashdrive and save some dvd's
[17:15] <philinux> Aikar: Make sure you use the option "Check disk for defects" too
[17:16] <auronandace> !md5
[17:16] <aresz> how to kill process compeletely? I can't kill it with top
[17:16] <khem_> http://bpaste.net/show/25469/ - anyone know what might be wrong with my Ubuntu bind9 zonefile?
[17:16] <khem_> can't get it to work pro[perly
[17:16] <nujabes> aresz, system monitor
[17:17] <aresz> I haven't got GNU
[17:17] <giovilol> ciao
[17:17] <giovilol> !list
[17:17] <orionsonofneptun> does ubuntu have a task manager like windows
[17:17] <aresz> yes
[17:17] <aresz> system monitor
[17:18] <aresz> you can found it at system
[17:18] <aresz> on the top
[17:18] <nujabes> orionsonofneptun, system monitor
[17:18] <orionsonofneptun> how to use system monitor????   ctl alt del is not it
[17:18] <Praxi> hmm new install of ubuntu 11.04 x64, came with libreoffice.  On first opening of calc, the tabs at the bottom for sheet are miniature, anyone know how to change that? not getting enough to mouse over to move things around
[17:18] <nujabes> orionsonofneptun, linux is not windows
[17:19] <Porkman> Hmm, could anyone help me to remap a key on the keyboard?
[17:19] <orionsonofneptun> ok then how
[17:19] <Praxi> its usually under system tools
[17:19] <Aikar> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/11.10/release/   < why are these iso.s so much bigger than the official ones?
[17:19] <nujabes> orinosonofneptun, system monitor
[17:19] <Praxi> orionsonofneptun, you using unity? if so just type system monitor in the finder thing
[17:20] <Aikar> check disc for defects does same black screen issue ~.~
[17:21] <nujabes> Aikar, sounds like a bad iso file, redownload and burn on a dvd or flashdrive
[17:21] <orionsonofneptun> cool
[17:21] <sambagirl> wow look at this it's perfect for my mom http://friendlycomputer.wordpress.com/
[17:24] <jsmith-argotec> This might not be the appropriate channel for this question but I'm not sure where to begin
[17:24] <orionsonofneptun> in the ubuntu memory test what is a ecc correctable error
[17:24] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: this channel is for ubuntu support
[17:24] <orionsonofneptun> the test on the instal cd???
[17:24] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: it's for EEC ram
[17:24] <belgianguy> hi, is there a special IRC for GUI design?
[17:24] <orionsonofneptun> whats eec
[17:25] <bazhang> !alis | belgianguy
[17:25] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: type of ram
[17:25] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: well I am running on 10.04 - I'll explain briefly and maybe you can help guide me :-)
[17:26] <orionsonofneptun> ok ive got whats called a eec correctable error
[17:26] <orionsonofneptun> please explain
[17:26] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: I have a program that calls 'uname -n' and I need to figure out how to intercept the call and run a different command
[17:26] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: as in, instead of calling uname -n it does something else
[17:27] <jamesbeebop> Hi all.  11.10 64 bit inside a Virtualbox guest, Windows 7 host, and I'm having a problem with graphics going 'fuzzy' and not refreshing when I drag a window.
[17:27] <jamesbeebop> Wondering what direction I should be looking.
[17:27] <Aikar> ok having coworker burn me a new dvd, since this work laptop doesnt have a burner and the laptops windows install is fubared :(
[17:27] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: as in it does call uname -n but I'm trying to run it in a cluster so I want it use something like host x.x.x.x
[17:27] <Aikar> installed windows updates and drivers cause it to BSOD boot now :/ stupid windows
[17:27] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: it's a binary so I can't just change the command like in an init script
[17:28] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: then I would suggest not doing it
[17:28] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: changing binaries is just a no go unless you have the source
[17:29] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: maybe not even close but could you wrap the program somehow and redirect it when it tries to call uname?
[17:29] <belgianguy> Alis isn't really helpful
[17:29] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: me - I wouldn't uname is important, so trying to put a wrapper around it isn't something I'd suggest
[17:29] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: (being honest)
[17:30] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: no I wouldn't want to do that! figured it would break lots of things!
[17:30] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: wanted to know if I could wrap the binary that goes looking for uname (that I don't have source for)
[17:31] <bazhang> belgianguy, ask in #freenode
[17:31] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: no, not really
[17:31] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: too bad :-(  thanks for the help though!
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> is there an ntfs checkdisk tool for ubuntu?
[17:32] <ikonia> jsmith-argotec: apologies, just being honest for a solution
[17:32] <Slart> lotuspsychje: there is a tool to check the disk, I think.. but nothing to fix problems
[17:33] <jsmith-argotec> ikonia: not your fault - windows companies aren't very linux helpful!
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> Slart: i got a weird error on an usb stick saying it cant mount (check with ntfs checkdisk)
[17:33] <pfifo> eww ntfs formatted usb stick
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> pfifo: what format u suggest?
[17:34] <pfifo> lotuspsychje, fat32 or ext2
[17:34] <satyanash> pfifo, fat32..on a 32GB USB Drive is pointless.
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> pfifo: as you know fat32 has 4gig limit
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> does ext have limits?
[17:35] <Slart> lotuspsychje: I haven't had that happen to me before so I can't really recommend anything.. here's some short info on the ntfs tools available http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntfsprogs
[17:35] <pfifo> hence the 'or ext2'
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> loucal: yes but they are ridiculously high
[17:35] <satyanash> lotuspsychje, yes, but they are astronomically high..
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> Slart: tnx alot m8
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> satyanash: ok next format ill test ext2
[17:36] <Slart> lotuspsychje: I assume you're using ntfs because you want to be able to use the usb stick on a windows computer.. the easiest solution would be to either use that windoes computer to also check the usb stick or install some flavour of windows in a wm
[17:36] <barefoot> anyway to delete posts from paste.ubuntu.com ?
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> so after making an ext2 format, can the stick be readed by windows too?
[17:36] <Slart> lotuspsychje: you're welcome.. hope you find some kind of solution
[17:37] <satyanash> lotuspsychje, no, Windows does not support anything other than NTFS and FAT*
[17:37] <KBentley57> why note format it fat32?
[17:37] <josvuk> Can someone reports me what is the average cpu usage for a ubuntu desktop doing nothing ?
[17:37] <LjL> satyanash, lotuspsychje: actually while Windows doesn't spport ext* natively, there are drivers for it.
[17:38] <josvuk> My is about 10% that seems to much, right?
[17:38] <satyanash> LjL, I think I've heard of EXt2 explore or some tool like that.
[17:38] <dr3mro> hello .. I use ubuntu 11.10 with unity >> is it possible to use slimbrowse.com compression proxy with openVPN on ubuntu at same time .. and how to do that ???
[17:39] <satyanash> josvuk, depends on the CPU.
[17:39] <dr3mro> I mean use both .. VPN and Proxy
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> an usb stick is mostly a sharing solution between diff Oses, so i tought ntfs would be most compatible no?
[17:39] <Slart> josvuk: that depends.. some/most cpus downclock to save energy.. that makes the cpu usage go higher.. at least on my system
[17:39] <SaRSAeOL> ljl or satyanash: just out of curiosity does ubuntu have support for exFat?
[17:39] <LjL> SaRSAeOL: i don't think so
[17:39] <SaRSAeOL> hmm
[17:39] <mcb_>  josvuk: You problably has services that are started at boot time, it is quite dificult to have a system that realy "does nothing".
[17:40] <pfifo> lotuspsychje, also fat32 doesnt have a 4gb limit, you can easily format your 32gb drive with fat32, the 4gb limit refers to the maximum size of files
[17:40] <pfifo> lotuspsychje, which makes fat32 the most compatible
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> pfifo: i know all mkv video's these days are like 12gig, so my 32gig usb is best in ntfs for me
[17:41] <dr3mro> you can use exfat in ubuntuu SaRSAeOL
[17:41] <josvuk> mcb: the most sevices started use 0.0% according to top how much cpu usage do you have?
[17:42] <dr3mro> SaRSAeOL, http://apcmag.com/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu.htm
[17:42] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro:  is there a specific version that added support, I'm reading a tutorial on how to add the capability but is it native in any new version?
[17:42] <belgianguy> Anyone else could point me to a good resource on all the GUI paradigms (and their inner workings) that exist for Ubuntu?
[17:42] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro:  lol thats the exact site I'm on
[17:42] <satyanash> josvuk, My CPU1 = CPU2 = ~7%
[17:42] <dr3mro> SaRSAeOL, just add the ppa and do install the app and then mount your disks as expalined
[17:43] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro:  yeah pretty straight forward ty
[17:43] <deadbeef> guys, how to stop the fan on ubuntu ?
[17:43] <dr3mro> SaRSAeOL, but why exfat .. fat32 is good and universal between MAC / WIN / NIX
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> belgianguy: whats it for excactly?
[17:43] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro: get around the 4GB files size limit
[17:44] <rbrooks> <-- ubuntu fan
[17:44] <dr3mro> SaRSAeOL, u can then use NTFS :)
[17:44] <belgianguy> lotuspsychje: just seeing how hard it would be to create something like this: http://www.fixingwindows8.com/2012/03/a-brief-narrative-explaining-why-win8-is-broken/
[17:44] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro: i work in a mixed enviro with ubutnu, osx, and windows… ntfs is not writable in osx except with an unstable driver
[17:44] <belgianguy> sorry, wrong link (:s)
[17:45] <belgianguy> lotuspsychje: http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/2822891/windows-desktop-ui-concept
[17:45] <josvuk> satyanash: So my isn't to be to bad, but what about the Xorg server my use about 5%
[17:45] <mcb_> josvuk: I have a lot services running for test in my machine, shoudnt do no good for comparison, but it is about 20% cpu1 e 2.
[17:45] <belgianguy> it looks pretty nice, and I was wondering what kind of effort it would take
[17:45] <tbruff13> can someone tell me how to join the Ubuntu bug squad
[17:45] <satyanash> josvuk, that is my usage with Firefox, banshee, libreoffice writer, xchat.. xorg, apache,mysql and whatnot..
[17:45] <tbruff13> I have a launchpad account is that enough
[17:46] <dr3mro> SaRSAeOL, does OSX have EXFAT stable driver yet /
[17:46] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro: yes since 10.6
[17:46] <dr3mro> odd they support exfat and not stable in ntfs ?
[17:46] <satyanash> josvuk, But obviously all almost idling around..
[17:46] <dusf> can anyone tell me why apt-get is aborting even though i tell it Y to install? http://pastebin.com/uFzzEbvv
[17:46] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro: agreed
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> belgianguy: not happy with unity?
[17:46] <SaRSAeOL> dr3mro:  but you know apple
[17:47] <belgianguy> lotuspsychje: I'm happy, but I wanted to see what it takes
[17:47] <belgianguy> and what makes it tick
[17:47] <josvuk> satyanash: do you use software rasterization or the gpu? I use the first :-(
[17:48] <belgianguy> I'm okay with Unity, I transitioned pretty smoothly
[17:48] <belgianguy> but I'm just curious if Ubuntu could be made to look like that
[17:48] <belgianguy> whether it's through Unity/GNOME/other
[17:49] <satyanash> josvuk, ohh.. yea.. I have an Nvidia Card doing all the Graphics stuff..forgot to mention that.
[17:50] <nvz> does anyone have any thoughts on why chromium browser cannot handle magnet links? FF handles them fine and they open with transmission.
[17:51] <OerHeks> nvz chromium handles them fine, here
[17:52] <josvuk> Hm, so I have to recompile realy the kernel without the radeonfb driver :-( I have a radeon card  the xorg server should use quite little cpu
[17:52] <magma> why when I export a var like PATH, when I reboot the system, I lost the PATH that I had set
[17:52] <nvz> OerHeks: hmm, absolutely nothing happens here, I've even gone as far as trying to find extensions to extract the links
[17:52] <magma> ?
[17:52] <tbruff13> can someone tell me how to join the ubuntu bug squad
[17:52] <dr_willis> magma:  because thats how export works..
[17:52] <dr_willis> set the var in a init script
[17:52] <josvuk> is there a howto compile the kernel on ubuntu docs anywhere? especially for ppc
[17:52] <josvuk> P
[17:53] <magma> dr_willis, that's the way of doing it?
[17:53] <zykotick9> !kernel | josvuk
[17:53] <magma> dr_willis, where is located that script?
[17:53] <zykotick9> magma: for PATH you can set it in ~/.bashrc to make it permanent
[17:53] <dr_willis> !path
[17:53] <dr_willis>  for a single user. one of their .bash* files in their home dir.
[17:54] <dr_willis> system wide. its a file in /etc/
[17:54] <magma> ok
[17:54] <magma> thanks
[17:54] <magma> :)
[17:54] <pfifo> Hi dr_willis
[17:54] <dr_willis> moo pfifo
[17:54] <magma> dr_willis, where if there are 2 PATH, one local and one wide, which one will be overridden?
[17:55] <dr_willis> user settings always override system.. wouldent make much sence otherwise
[17:55] <magma> dr_willis, which is the name of the file in the /etc ?
[17:56] <josvuk> ubottu: Are there precompiled Mainline kernels for ppc which doesn't have the radeonfb driver in it, the radeonfb should be loadable as a module
[17:56] <dr_willis> magma:  no idea. I never change it ystem wide
[17:57] <pfifo> josvuk, you can search for a PPA
[17:58] <josvuk> what does this stand for PPA?
[17:58] <pfifo> !PPA | josvuk
[17:58] <FrozenMind> gotta love ubottu and its scripts of information :)
[17:59] <Rango> I've been having problems using certain USB thumb drives... they're not U3... anyone know anything about that?
[18:00] <Rango> Ithis started since i upgraded from 10.04
[18:01] <Kk2> just a really newbie question, xubuntu, its just the ubuntu with xfce desktop? i mean, all code under the xubuntu is the same? just without gnome?
[18:02] <Nach0z> Kk2: they're different packages and stuff under the hood
[18:02] <Nach0z> Kk2: there's a #xubuntu channel I think, for specific questions; you can deal with most generic *buntu stuff in here though afaik
[18:02] <pfifo> !xubuntu | Kk2
[18:02] <Kk2> thx a lot :)
[18:04] <josvuk> pfifo: I'm on a ppc system PPA are only for x86 and amd64 :-(
[18:05] <pfifo> josvuk, thats too bad
[18:07] <yoshimi-pink> what was the depackager before ubuntu software center?
[18:07] <zykotick9> yoshimi-pink: synaptic
[18:08] <Nach0z> aptitude >_>
[18:08] <yoshimi-pink> not synaptic, im trying to use a .deb that i dont want to open with ubuntu software center
[18:08] <Nach0z> ahhh
[18:08] <Nach0z> dpkg
[18:08] <Nach0z> dpkg -i name.deb
[18:08] <yoshimi-pink> it use to open in a little window but now it uses USC
[18:08] <lionel-> hello do speak french ?
[18:08] <yoshimi-pink> no, english only
[18:08] <lionel-> you
[18:08] <lionel-> thaks
[18:09] <trism> yoshimi-pink: the little window was gdebi-gtk, you can reinstall it with: sudo apt-get install gdebi;
[18:09] <szal> !fr | lionel-
[18:09] <yoshimi-pink> ty <3
[18:09] <beam> Hi ...
[18:09] <beam> I have a question, and I will be very grateful if someone could help me.
[18:09] <beam> I do not know whether this is the place, and certainly does seem a bit frivolous, but I still wonder.
[18:09] <beam> with ubuntu 10.4 am and I've installed opera from opera_11.61.1250_i386.deb.
[18:09] <beam> his opera itself actually works perfectly, but it open where the icon appears on top of the panel to the notification area is slightly unsized (slightly smaller than that of starter and any glare and reflections).
[18:09] <FloodBot1> beam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <beam> I know not, who knows what the problem, but I ceased provoking.
[18:09] <lionel-> thanks szal
[18:10] <magma> how can I reboot the environment so that the new vars can be visible?
[18:10] <yoshimi-pink> beam, dont ask to ask, dont be over polite, simply said i have problem x and i need solution y ive tried solution z, q, pi
[18:10] <ssta> magma: what sort of vars?  Like in .bashrc?
[18:10] <magma> yes ssam
[18:10] <magma> yes ssta
[18:10] <ssta> magma: . ~/.bashrc
[18:11] <ssta> magma: or just log out and back in again...
[18:11] <magma> ssta, didn't work out
[18:11] <pfifo> hello yoshimi-pink
[18:12] <yoshimi-pink> omg hi pfifo <3
[18:12] <magma> actually it might have work
[18:12] <ssta> magma: it gave an error?
[18:12] <yoshimi-pink> I want to change my default file manager to pcman, ideas?
[18:13] <beam> Hi...I have a question, and I will be very grateful if someone could help me.I do not know whether this is the place, and certainly does seem a bit frivolous, but I still wonder.with ubuntu 10.4 am and I've installed opera from opera_11.61.1250_i386.deb.
[18:13] <beam> his opera itself actually works perfectly, but it open where the icon appears on top of the panel to the notification area is slightly unsized (slightly smaller than that of starter and any glare and reflections).I know not, who knows what the problem, but I ceased provoking. so I hope someone knows where the system loads the icon to change it to another level.
[18:14] <yoshimi-pink> no, seriously beam, dont do that it's annoying
[18:14] <dr_willis> yoshimi-pink:  i recall some guides on doing that ages ago.. but it can be very quirky. and no idea if those guides still work for the newer ubuntu releases.
[18:15] <BlendedByChris> what do more folks use… gnome or kde?
[18:15] <yoshimi-pink> XFCE for me
[18:15] <BlendedByChris> not an option
[18:15] <szal> currently Windows here
[18:15] <yoshimi-pink> lol
[18:15] <ssta> BlendedByChris: everyone has different opinions...try both and see which you like best
[18:15] <yoshimi-pink> shun the non-beliver!
[18:15] <szal> what liver? ;)
[18:16] <BlendedByChris> i literally am just interested in knowing which is more used
[18:16] <yoshimi-pink> believer...
[18:16] <yoshimi-pink> *sets self on fire*
[18:16] <Riddell> BlendedByChris: I expect on this channel most people use Unity
[18:16] <yoshimi-pink> uugh
[18:17] <yoshimi-pink> hate unity, horrible interface, if i wanna type out every program i want to use ill go with cmd line ty
[18:17] <belgianguy> what Ubuntu GUI is the easiest to reconfigure?
[18:17] <dr_willis> opera icon in the notification area? never noticed. That would be defined by the opera program.  check their forums and bug reports perhaps.
[18:17] <yoshimi-pink> i find xfce to be pretty easy but i hear good things about kde as well
[18:17] <FrozenMind> if=UbuntuUnity of=NO count=5000 :P
[18:17] <belgianguy> I'm looking if there is one that I can make look like this (minus the Windows things, ofcourse) http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/2822891/windows-desktop-ui-concept
[18:18] <dr_willis> belgianguy:  depends on what you are wanting to reconfigure
[18:18] <dr_willis> belgianguy:  theres dozens of window managers out there you can play with.
[18:18] <josvuk> How can I check if the Compete Linux kernel on PowerPC which is an suggestet update from Update Manager don't have the radeonfb driver compiled in it It should be loadable as a module?
[18:18] <olegb> CC -V
[18:18] <belgianguy> I don't mind Unity, but I'm a bit tired of the faux 3D
[18:18] <dr_willis> configuring to me - means more then just themes..
[18:18] <belgianguy> dr_willis: hi! any you have experience with?
[18:18] <syddraf> I've installed vsftpd on my computer, and downloading works fine, but I cannot upload. I am the owner of the directory.  My computer is behind a router, ports 20-21 are forwarded. Does anyone have an idea as to why this is not working?
[18:18] <yoshimi-pink> the best thing about free software is there isnt really a 'best' anything
[18:19] <ssta> belgianguy: but...but....3d is coool!
[18:19] <olegb> sorry - wrong window :-)
[18:19] <yoshimi-pink> the fake 3d, the horrible attemt to make it look cool
[18:19] <yoshimi-pink> every DE has its ups and downs
[18:19] <FrozenMind> belgianguy:  I used Unity for a while and just removed it and went into "Classic" mode because I was trying to get it to work for stream line... Unity gave me a lot of overhead, as well as headaches x.x
[18:19] <yoshimi-pink> i would like a background in xfce that changes every few seconds but i still cant get it to work ;;
[18:20] <yoshimi-pink> thats easy in gnome
[18:20] <belgianguy> I've gotten used to Unity, although I still find myself staring doe-eyed at the top bar when I expect something to be there, but then it isn't
[18:20] <FrozenMind> yoshimi-pink:  you might try the xubuntu channel, someone might have a fix/script/setup for you o.O
[18:21] <yoshimi-pink> ooh, ty
[18:21] <BlendedByChris> so the default desktop on ubuntu is unity/
[18:22]  * dr_willis wonders what faux 3d means...
[18:22] <dr_willis> vague terms are vague...
[18:22] <dr_willis> theres dozens of apps and scripts that can change the wallpaper at set times.
[18:22] <dr_willis> BlendedByChris:  yes.
[18:22] <belgianguy> dr_willis: highlights and gradients that make items stand out from their surrounding background
[18:23] <belgianguy> ofcourse all 3D is 'fake' on a screen :p
[18:23] <FrozenMind> BlendedByChris: Only if you choose Ubuntu for the startup in 11.... I personally went to Ubuntu Classic which is the old 10.10 Desktop (no download needed) and then from there just removed unity using command line.
[18:23] <belgianguy> but it's soo plastic-like, some of it looks like candy
[18:24] <k> kk555
[18:24]  * belgianguy sighs
[18:24] <yoshimi-pink> i hate the default keyring but i always forget how to disable it
[18:25] <yoshimi-pink> wuts wrong belgianguy?
[18:25] <Hermann1> Hi does anyone know the channel name of muse midi sequencer help channel?
[18:25] <belgianguy> I'm looking for a way to deeply customize my UI
[18:25] <yoshimi-pink> :/
[18:25] <neo1691> Hi everyone!! Anyway to see the size of software in ubuntu software center in 10.04
[18:25] <yoshimi-pink> well couldnt you get xfce?
[18:25] <yoshimi-pink> I can make it look however i want
[18:26] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink: http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=ubuntu%20desktop&order=9&offset=72
[18:26] <satyanash> belgianguy, If you are serious, Fvwm!
[18:26] <FrozenMind> belgianguy:  find the directory it is in and start playing around with it?
[18:26] <belgianguy> That's what I came here for, where to start :)
[18:26] <FrozenMind> satyanash: ...um... what is Fvwm?
[18:26] <belgianguy> thanks for that
[18:26] <yoshimi-pink> o:
[18:26] <yoshimi-pink> lots of desktops
[18:27] <satyanash> FrozenMind, Completely customizable dekstop environment, using only text files..
[18:27] <FrozenMind> belgianguy: go to command prompt/terminal and type in -- locate unity
[18:27] <FrozenMind> satyanash: aaah, ok... here i was thinking you were saying something along the line of find the manual XD
[18:28] <yoshimi-pink> thats my desktop
[18:28] <yoshimi-pink> i could push it alot further
[18:28] <dr3mro> hello can you plz help me create apparmor profile for xchat
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  for a start, there's CCSM, gnome-tweak-tool and a PPA for MyUnity
[18:29] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink: can't seem to accept the image, could you host it somewhere perhaps?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  and Emerald
[18:30] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: I'm taking notes, any you'd recommend?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  depends on what you like most
[18:30] <bazhang> !emerald | MonkeyDust belgianguy
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  ubottu says it :)
[18:31] <bazhang> dr3mro, you might wish to ask abou that in #xchat
[18:31] <josvuk> Someone here with a running ubuntu PowerPc system with the latest availabel kernel, and is willing to paste the output off lsmod?
[18:32] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[18:32] <bittin> josvuk: nah only Debian sadly :p
[18:32] <dr3mro> why isn't apparmor an ubuntu service ?? and i want to create app armor profile ??
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  there's more, but that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:33] <bazhang> dr3mro, sure, but #xchat probably has a better idea on how to do it
[18:33] <neo1691> I am planning to run this script.. sudo ln -sf /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[18:33] <neo1691>  is it safe?
[18:33] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: I'm there :p
[18:33] <neo1691> *script==command :P
[18:33] <dr3mro> neo1691, yes go and enjoy better fonts
[18:34] <neo1691> dr3mro,  Thanks
[18:34] <neo1691> I want to view the size of a software in mb before installing it. Can i do that in ubuntu software center?
[18:34] <S-WorksSL4> Would someone be kind enough to lead me in the right direction on which channel I need to ask a question about driver questions?
[18:34] <yoshimi-pink> if python was a girl I'd f*** her hard
[18:36] <donsd> yoshimi-pink, is xfce a file manager I could use with Unity?
[18:36] <yoshimi-pink> xfce is a desktop environment
[18:36] <auronandace> donsd: xfce is a desktop environment
[18:36] <yoshimi-pink> i win
[18:36] <yoshimi-pink> but i dont like its default file manger so i use pcmanfm instead
[18:38] <josvuk> Where to look for changesets from linux-image-2.6.32-39 and linux-image-2.6.32-38 ?
[18:39] <donsd> auronandace, okay, thanks.
[18:39] <auronandace> josvuk: the update manager usually contains the list of changes when you update
[18:39] <donsd> yoshimi-pink, thanks.
[18:40] <auronandace> donsd: no worries, just so you know the file manager for xfce is called thunar
[18:40] <die7> hi, which package I need to get m4b played?
[18:41] <yoshimi-pink> lol
[18:41] <donsd> Which file manager is popular for Ubuntu. I'm using default, Nautilus, but would like to change.
[18:41] <yoshimi-pink> 'do you accept the EULA license terms?'
[18:41] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink, sorry to ask again, but I was wondering if you could show me that pic of your UI
[18:41] <auronandace> donsd: people usually stick with the default, pcmanfm is a good choice though
[18:42] <Oxymoron> One question, when using magnet links. When I press on them in Chrome, file transfer thing (working module in activity bar) starts but never close and KTorrent acting weird compared to torrents. In uTorrent on Windows, they open as a usual torrent file. Is it possible to change magnet links behaviour in KTorrent and Chrome? I also do not want the download folder to be like */share/apps/magnet_io
[18:43] <BlendedByChris> is the us.archive.unbunt.com usually pretty slow?
[18:43] <donsd> auronandace, thanks again. I will look at pcman.
[18:44] <auronandace> !info pcmanfm | donsd
[18:44] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink: seems the transfer isn't happening :s
[18:44] <S-WorksSL4> Is there a way to get current driver information for my integrated Intel graphics card?  I installed latest drivers (compiled package) and need to see if it worked.  Thanks in advance.
[18:44] <belgianguy> stuck on accepting send
[18:45] <donsd> auronandace, that is small!
[18:45] <v0lksman> is there a way to tell dpkg to install the deps required by a package?
[18:45] <savid> What directory does upstart keep its scripts in in older versions of ubuntu?    I don't see anything in /etc/init
[18:45] <luist> hey guys.. what command can i use from the command line that will INSTALL A PACKAGE displaying on a GRAPHIC UI the progress?
[18:46] <rumpe1> luist, gdebi
[18:46] <yoshimi-pink> laaame
[18:46] <auronandace> donsd: compared to nautilus yes, but nautilus is more than just a file manager, its quite deeply integrated in gnome
[18:47] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink: perhaps host it on tinypic or something?
[18:47] <yoshimi-pink> one sec
[18:47] <Mary2000> pjwaffle snuzzles coingenuity
[18:47] <belgianguy> k, thanks :)
[18:47] <Mary2000> ok, thanks to reduce it further.
[18:49] <yoshimi-pink> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=c83lu&s=5
[18:49] <bazhang> Mary2000, hi
[18:49] <Mary2000> mary2000, you cary exceedingly nonlinear conversations
[18:49] <Mary2000> sandstrom_
[18:49] <yoshimi-pink> i didnt change my desktop at all btw
[18:49] <yoshimi-pink> thats exactly how it was
[18:49] <bazhang> Mary2000, bot
[18:49] <Mary2000> mary2000, is nothing.
[18:49] <donsd> auronandace, I was disappointed in Nautilus when I tried to search for wav files.
[18:49] <Mary2000> apt-get --purge remove nautilus
[18:49] <bazhang> !test | Mary2000
[18:49] <Mary2000> #bitcoin-bot(s) cant remember would ove mary2000 tho
[18:50] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink: looks nice!
[18:50] <Mary2000> pjwaffle innocently looks around
[18:50] <auronandace> kick Mary2000
[18:50] <Mary2000> kick this rib cage into shape while it is a regex code can be extensible.
[18:50] <donsd> I don't think *.wav worked. Searchin wav gave me a list, but they were too deep in directory structure.
[18:50] <belgianguy> and what is it called?
[18:50] <Mary2000> what about magnets?
[18:50] <donsd> There was no "go to file" that I could find.
[18:51] <belgianguy> yoshimi-pink: a redditor as well it seems :)
[18:51] <magma> how can I get files from a remote server through ssh?
[18:51] <magma> and through some GUI
[18:51] <magma> ubuntu brings some app to do that?
[18:51] <Mary2000> were you might think mutemelanie is better than ubuntu
[18:51] <auronandace> !ssh | magma
[18:51] <Mary2000> this is an example of usage of the time • watching tv • public view • mine chatting • trying to understand :)
[18:52] <sacarlson> magma: I use nautilus with ssh to get files over ssh
[18:52]  * auronandace thanks oCean 
[18:52] <_raven> unetbootin i cannot use it because it provides NO usable drive but root
[18:52] <magma> sacarlson, through the command line? I would like something more productive like filezila
[18:53] <S-WorksSL4> Is there a command to list "active" drivers? Please, anyone?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> _raven  there's also MultiSystem
[18:53] <_raven> MonkeyDust what do you mean?
[18:53] <sacarlson> magma: no nautilus is a gui, it can all be done in gui
[18:53] <magma> ok I will check that out
[18:53] <CharminTheMoose> I'm trying to compile a kernel, but when I do make modules_install, I get the following output: http://pastebin.ca/2130131 What am I doing wrong?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> _raven  I take you wish to create a bootable pendrive, but unetbootin is not usable for you?
[18:54] <_raven> MonkeyDust not any more right
[18:55] <yoshimi-pink> indeed
[18:55] <foxtrot9> I need some help on getting the 3rd monitor eyefinity using fglrx drivers, I can't seem to get the 3rd monitor to work, the amd catalyst says disabled. I tried editing the xorg.conf, with no avail. Anyone have an idea how to get the 3rd monitor to work?
[18:56] <arunce> foxtrot9: do you have viewport?
[18:56] <Chaitanya> I have a huge 1 tb hard disk on which I want to use some command line utility to find files faster
[18:56] <foxtrot9> arunce: what do you mean by viewport?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> _raven  MultiSystem is a 3rd party program to create bootable pendrives with - more advice in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:57] <arunce> foxtrot9: how many graphic cards you have?
[18:57] <Chaitanya> can any one suggest any command line utility to find files faster than find command
[18:57] <sacarlson> Chaitanya: try man find;  example find -name "*.jpg"
[18:57] <foxtrot9> arunce: just 1 with 3 monitors attached, hd5850
[18:58] <Chaitanya> yes I did that but it takes a long time. i have also used locate along with find
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Chaitanya: locate
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Chaitanya: sudo updatedb; find *.jpg
[18:58] <satyanash> Chaitanya, locate w/ updatedb
[18:58] <arunce> foxtrot9: if you have only one then you need viewport
[18:59] <foxtrot9> arunce: how do i get viewport?
[18:59] <arunce> you can't have three monitors through dvi/hdmi/vga
[18:59] <Chaitanya> I used eg. find $(locate -d external.db 1.txt) which finds files faster but the problem is that file names with special characters eg. spaces is not showing
[18:59] <foxtrot9> arunce: this is 2x DVI and 1x DisplayPort
[18:59] <JelloPop> Chaitanya: man locate
[18:59] <foxtrot9> arunce: works in windows
[18:59] <Black> How to disable bash history permanently?
[19:00] <thedonvaughn> Black: export HISTSIZE=0
[19:00] <thedonvaughn> Black: put that in your .bash_profile or .bashrc
[19:00] <arunce> foxtrot9: sorry, its displayport. not viewport
[19:00] <arunce> my mistake
[19:00] <Black> Thedonvaughn: thanx
[19:02] <foxtrot9> arunce: i just can't get catalyst to see it, even though eyefinity works on windows
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Black: delete ~/.bash_history  then make a new blank file and mark it as read only
[19:03] <arunce> foxtrot9: do you have that options on ati control panel?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Black: do you not use the history at all, its supremely handy
[19:03] <foxtrot9> arunce: yes
[19:03] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, haha nice trick..
[19:04] <foxtrot9> arunce: it says 3rd monitor disabled
[19:04] <mmirai> Hello Linux Ubuntu people!
[19:04] <arunce> foxtrot9: I had that problem some months ago
[19:05] <arunce> foxtrot9: let me check
[19:05] <bittin> Chips N Bricks: http://scenesat.com/listen/normal/mid.m3u
[19:06] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w
[19:06] <mmirai> neat song, bittin
[19:07] <v0lksman> when is 12.04 golden?
[19:07] <mmirai> Pidgin should be installed already, Jon
[19:07] <mmirai> It was when I installed 11.10 anyways
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| VoveriusNibiruPl
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| v0lksman
[19:08] <v0lksman> hrm...doesn't say when it will be released though (or scheduled to be)
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> v0lksman  here's the schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[19:09] <v0lksman> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[19:09] <TeoBigusGeekus> @jon: Try sudo apt-get install -f
[19:09] <yoshimi-pink> its a trap!
[19:09] <yoshimi-pink> D:
[19:10] <Tech-1> el oh el
[19:10] <satyanash> Hi, Can someone help me with my dual head setup ?
[19:11] <satyanash> Is there any way I can have a one workspace displayed on one screen, while another workspace on another screen ?
[19:14] <BigR> niom
[19:14] <BigR> niom
[19:14] <waxstone> satyanash, well you can make a window show on all worksheets I dk if that will solve your question. i.e. same program on 2nd monitor and different ones on 1st monitor
[19:14] <BigR> moin
[19:15] <arunce> foxtrot9: try this - 1. backup your xorg.conf file; 2. sudo aticonfig --initial; 3. restart x
[19:16] <foxtrot9> arunce: already did that
[19:16] <arunce> foxtrot9: I did that sometime ago, but now i'm back on two identical screens due to tear.
[19:16] <foxtrot9> arunce: my 3rd screen still isn't detected
[19:17] <satyanash> waxstone, I want a functionality exactly as described by the poster here  --> http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/11443/multiple-workspaces-per-screen-openbox-or-and-openbox-hackers-there/
[19:18] <Porkman> Anyone able to help? I need to remap the meta key into, for example, left win key
[19:18] <dizaster> hi, does anyone know of a decent launcher that I can use while using gnome-classic? I like the launcher portion of unity, but not the rest. :-(
[19:19] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w
[19:19] <pfifo> satyanash, look into awm I think it can do what you want
[19:19] <neyder_> hola!
[19:20] <neyder_> hi!, i mean.
[19:20] <satyanash> pfifo, awm ?
[19:20] <dizaster> Jon--: run sudo apt-get update
[19:20] <Destiny> Can the Lost video game run on windows vista?
[19:20] <Jon--> dizaster, I did before running that command.
[19:20] <neyder_> How can I hide users from lightdm? i have put in /etc/lightdm/users.conf but it doesn work
[19:21] <pfifo> !info awesome | satyanash
[19:21] <OerHeks> Destiny, why?
[19:21] <satyanash> pfifo, I use Xmonad.
[19:21] <Destiny> I want to play the game...
[19:21] <Destiny> dur...
[19:21] <BigR> 03a903a903a9
[19:21] <sambagirl> is crunchbanglinux.org a wordpress site?
[19:21] <Jon--> Also, my volume pop up, and gnome-panel look very, very ugly when using Ubuntu classic (after installing gnome-panel). Unrelated issue though.
[19:22] <BigR> did someone of you know a monitoring tool witch runs on ssh. so that you can see anything right-away in the console session?
[19:22] <jrib> neyder_: did you restart lightdm service?
[19:22] <pfifo> satyanash, Then I guess its time to break out the IDE and cusomize it at the source
[19:22] <jrib> BigR: monitoring of what?
[19:22] <Destiny> So can a Windows Vista run it?
[19:22] <BigR> the whole server. traffic, ram, CPU balace
[19:22] <neyder_> jrib yes, I do
[19:22] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w [I have run apt-get update before this]
[19:23] <OerHeks> Destiny, how would we know? this is Ubuntu support
[19:23] <auronandace> Destiny: why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[19:23] <ssta> sambagirl: the blog part is...
[19:23] <satyanash> pfifo, So I guess this cannot be solved by just editing the global xorg.conf.. Probably because worspaces are handled by the WM and not X.. Thanks!
[19:23] <bazhang> Destiny, ask in ##windows
[19:23] <jrib> satyanash: default xmonad behavior is to behave as you describe I believe
[19:23] <pfifo> satyanash, correct
[19:23] <Destiny> because someone else sent me here from #alephone
[19:23] <sambagirl> ssta their download page is really nice
[19:23] <BigR> the whole server. traffic, ram, CPU balace
[19:23] <jrib> satyanash: I may have missed your original question, but each screen in xmonad will correspond to a workspace
[19:23] <bazhang> Destiny, this is the wrong place to ask
[19:23] <satyanash> jrib, is it ? Do  Ihave to use TwinView ? Xinerama ? or Separate X Screens ?
[19:24] <jrib> satyanash: hmm, works here with twinview
[19:24] <Destiny> then it's Wrkncacnter's fault
[19:24] <satyanash> jrib, if that works, it would be a pleasant surprise.. :) I am using Fvwm2 atm.
[19:24] <BigR> did someone of you guys know a monitoring tool witch is displayed in the console session (SSH)
[19:24] <z0rk> I have a quick question about terminal and bash.
[19:24] <auronandace> Destiny: you can recify the problem by typing: /join ##windows
[19:25] <Destiny> I clicked on it. Already there
[19:25] <Destiny> thanks for the help
[19:26] <jrib> satyanash: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions good troubleshooting section there as well as a brief description of default behavior and options available earlier (search for "multi")
[19:26] <Praxi> BigR, something other than TOP?
[19:26] <trism> neyder_: you want to hide all the users on the greeter? or just specific ones
[19:26] <17WAAZD4Z> BigR: what are you trying to monitore? If it is net traffic you can use iptraf.... for example
[19:26] <jrib> satyanash: are you using twinview atm?
[19:26] <z0rk> When I enter the command '$RANDOM' into terminal I get : command not found
[19:26] <satyanash> jrib, no. Separate X screens.
[19:26] <BigR> hey there. did some of you guys know a ssh server or something similar witch displays traffic, cpu load, ram load etc. right away in the ssh console session???
[19:26] <z0rk> why its that?
[19:27] <neyder_> trism specific ones, or if i can make the user put their user name
[19:27] <jrib> satyanash: ah yes, I don't think that would work
[19:27] <gr33n7007h> echo $RANDOM
[19:27] <satyanash> jrib, requires X restart.. Cleaning up work at hand..
[19:27] <Praxi> ! patience | bigr
[19:27] <Praxi> !patience | bigr
[19:27] <pfifo> gzip source comes in a gzipped tarball, but if you dont have gzip how are you supposed to extract and install it?
[19:27] <z0rk> gr33n thanks
[19:28] <Porkman> Anybody able to help? My keyboard setup somehow doesnt have the meta key, and i need it (to play nethack!)
[19:28] <z0rk> the man didnt say I needed the prefix echo
[19:28] <17WAAZD4Z> BigR: For net traffic you can use iptraf, for the rest i like to use htop
[19:28] <trism> neyder_: yes if you hide the users a login prompt will be added to allow the users to enter their names, add greeter-hide-users=true to the SeatDefaults section of /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and then sudo restart lightdm;
[19:28] <gr33n7007h> lol
[19:28] <pfifo> Porkman, i think you can press escape twice instead
[19:29] <neyder_> trism, i do that and only guest user i showed, and no option to other user
[19:29] <Porkman> pfifo, double esc isnt workin
[19:29] <neyder_> *it showed
[19:29] <spych102> I can't get my game to run and i'm not sure why
[19:29] <Praxi> nice call on htop 17WAAZD4Z, looks good, never actually used it hehe
[19:29] <trism> neyder_: which greeter are you using?
[19:29] <trism> neyder_: also which ubuntu version are you on?
[19:29] <pfifo> Porkman, run `onboard`
[19:29] <neyder_> lighdm defaul (fresh install
[19:30] <Porkman> how do i run onboard?
[19:30] <pfifo> Porkman, from cli type 'onboard'
[19:30] <neyder_> lightdm deafult from edubuntu (fresh install), i mean
[19:30] <trism> neyder_: yes but which version of ubuntu
[19:31] <neyder_> 12.04
[19:31] <Fyodorovna> Porkman, runs from dash as wel.
[19:31] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w [I have run apt-get update before this]
[19:31] <auronandace> spych102: more details, what game?
[19:31] <Porkman>  not working on dash either.. is there anyw ay i could make sure it maps somewhere?
[19:31] <spych102> zenbound2
[19:32] <auronandace> spych102: you running it in wine?
[19:32] <trism> neyder_: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 , and I'm not sure what greeter defaults on edubuntu, we can continue this in #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <spych102> auronandace: no, i installed the deb that came from the humble bundle
[19:34] <auronandace> spych102: how are you running it?
[19:34] <spych102> auronandace: first through unity and then through the cmd line
[19:35] <auronandace> spych102: what is the output via terminal?
[19:35] <spych102> auronandace: it just returns Setting Video Head to 0 and Setting Resolution to 1366, 768
[19:35] <spych102> .. and then returns to the prompt
[19:35] <pfifo> Jon--, run `sudo apt-get install -f`
[19:36] <beam> I do not know whether this is the place, and certainly does seem a bit frivolous, but I still wonder. with ubuntu 10.4 am and I've installed opera from opera_11.61.1250_i386.deb. his opera itself actually works perfectly, but when you open the icon that appears on top of the panel to the notification area is slightly unsized (slightly smaller than that of starter and any glare and reflections). I know not, who knows what the problem, but irritates me. I hope s
[19:36] <beam> omeone knows where the system loads the icon to change it to another level.
[19:36] <pujaan> #BINUSHACKER
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> beam: could find your own icon and apply it
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Beam: try a right click -> properties
[19:39] <beam> but where apply it
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Beam: you can also manually edit the file in /usr/share/applications to edit it. Alacarte should be able to edit it too
[19:39] <beam> right click -> properties is for opera
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Beam: you can put it wherever you want.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Beam: /usr/share/icons would be good too
[19:41] <CharminTheMoose> I'm trying to compile a kernel, but when I do make modules_install, I get the following output: http://pastebin.ca/2130131 What am I doing wrong?
[19:41] <beam> and when I start Opera from there it will load icon
[19:41] <AndChat-> Dang blackspots
[19:42] <spych102> auronandace: i might try using the other AMD driver to see if it makes a difference
[19:43] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, nothing
[19:43] <dusf> can anyone explaing to me why apt-get aborts this operation despite my confirming it by entering y? http://pastebin.com/uFzzEbvv
[19:43] <beam> in /usr/share/icons is no icon for opera
[19:44] <dr3mro> hello  , I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 that when I log out or switch users i just get blank screen and i have to hard reset to make it work again .. any help  !???
[19:45] <stillParsnip> Dusf: is there free space on the partition?
[19:45] <pfifo> dusf, use a lower case y or just press enter
[19:45] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, erm, so what's the problem with the modules not installing correctly?
[19:45] <auronandace> spych102: you might try running the game from a different desktop environment, just incase compiz is at fault
[19:45] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: what gpu? What make and
[19:46] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: make and model system?
[19:46] <dusf> pfifo: tried both
[19:46] <dusf> stillParsnip: should be, confirming...
[19:46] <dr3mro> stillParsnip, it worked fine before but all of sudden it behave like that i have fujitsu siemens amilo pi 1505 with i945 gpu and dual core cpu @ 1.8 and 3gb or ram
[19:47] <dusf> stillParsnip: sorry, what's the best command to check? i don't usually look at my / partition nycg
[19:47] <dusf> much
[19:47] <comunistu> hello
[19:47] <m112> seacher russia people
[19:48] <comunistu> ubuntu 10.04 vs 10.10?
[19:48] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: I'd check ram health. Is it caused by switching / logging off any user?
[19:48] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, what is the problem?
[19:48] <stillParsnip> dusf: df -h
[19:48] <dr3mro> stillParsnip, all is it's something with lightdm !!
[19:48] <auronandace> comunistu: 10.10 is eol next month
[19:49] <spych102> auronandace: i tried running it from unity 2d, should that do the trick?
[19:49] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: could install gdm and try that instead
[19:49] <m112> what format usb flash memory?
[19:49] <stillParsnip> M112: what size and will it be used in windows systems?
[19:49] <auronandace> spych102: unity2d doesn't use compiz, so yes, that would rule out compiz if it still doesn't work
[19:50] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, I was building a 2.6.39 kernel patched with aufs support and used an 'allmodconfig' to generate the .config. I built everything, but when I try to install the modules, the above pasted error happens.
[19:50] <belgianguy> could someone tell me how to see what name is assigned to sda, sdb
[19:50] <Bambino> should i re configure my ubuntu if i've changed my hd from a netbook to a laptop? ( and if i should how could i do that?)
[19:50] <m112> no linux
[19:50] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: dmesg | grep sd
[19:50] <stillParsnip> comunistu: maverick is eol next month so i wouldnt bother with a clean install of it
[19:50] <beam> m112 - fat32
[19:50] <m112> file system iso9660
[19:50] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, a warning is not an error, im not seeing a problem anywhere
[19:50] <spych102> auronandace: i've started to install the restricted AMD driver to see if that helps.. although last time i used it was not that great
[19:51] <stillParsnip> m112: how big is it?
[19:51] <comunistu> yes i try 10.04.4
[19:51] <m112> yes
[19:51] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: also df
[19:52] <stillParsnip> comunistu: i would, or 11.10. Either will give easy upgrade to precise too :-)
[19:52] <blop> hello
[19:52] <dusf> stillParsnip: http://pastebin.com/UQujiejz
[19:52] <m112> hello
[19:52] <comunistu> i hate unity
[19:52] <m112> help?
[19:52] <auronandace> spych102: i've only used nvidia, so i couldn't help you with ati/amd
[19:52] <stillParsnip> m112: how big is the flash storage?
[19:52] <blop> i have a problem creating a vlan on a bond0 interface .. it does not work since upgrade to 11.10 .. any idea ?
[19:53] <sskalnik> I noticed that while Oracle's site says that Ksplice Uptrack is only supported for Ubuntu desktop, there's a ksplice package in the repos for Ubuntu Server. Is that a totally separate thing?
[19:53] <auronandace> comunistu: you can use 11.10 without using unity
[19:53] <dusf> stillParsnip: apologies, pressing enter did do it but i don't know why entering y did not?
[19:53] <dusf> pfifo: ty
[19:53] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, thanks
[19:53] <auronandace> comunistu: there is kde4, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[19:54] <itatitat> Hi
[19:54] <itatitat> Im working with ubuntu server
[19:54] <comunistu> yes but i have same problem with panel
[19:54] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, True. But the weird thing is that despite 'allmodconfig' making everything it can be a module, only those specific .ko files (the crypto ones) are installed into /lib/modules/<version>. :/
[19:54] <itatitat> I have a problem
[19:54] <itatitat> because I need to install a app, but I cant access to internet
[19:54] <itatitat> any Idea?
[19:54] <bazhang> !offline | itatitat
[19:54] <m112> 72
[19:55] <bazhang> m112, whats that
[19:55] <Aciid> why is it that when im trying to set up ad-hoc network on one of my wlan cards. It sets up the both cards to the same mode
[19:55] <m112> size
[19:55] <itatitat> wo
[19:55] <itatitat> good
[19:55] <stillParsnip> comunistu: unity is only one of the four officially supported ubuntu variants. So hating unity isn't really an excuse to not use oneiric
[19:55] <itatitat> thanks a lot
[19:55] <m112> flash
[19:55] <itatitat> yoiu have saved me
[19:55] <itatitat> thanks
[19:55] <FloodBot1> itatitat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <m112> ok dont"s flood
[19:55] <bazhang> m112, ubuntu support question?
[19:56] <m112> yes.
[19:56] <comunistu> maybe after upgrade ram
[19:56] <m112> 0
[19:56] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, I have no idea why, theres nothing in your paste that hints at a problem
[19:56] <bazhang> m112, what is the ubuntu support question you have
[19:57] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, are you running the kernel you built?
[19:57] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, I'm looking in GParted to a partition I'll need to delete
[19:57] <belgianguy> but I can't find the real name through dmesg or df
[19:57] <m112> read closed
[19:57] <belgianguy> it's called /dev/sdb5
[19:58] <m112> flash read closed
[19:58] <m112> help?
[19:58] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, No, I'm not. But I can paste the .config of the kernel
[19:58] <Aciid> hey does anyone know, why network-manager sets both wifi cards to same AP/connection?
[19:58] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: check fstab and see if it's a GUID
[19:58] <auronandace> !details | m112
[19:58] <CharminTheMoose> the kernel I'm building that is
[19:58] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, thanks
[19:58] <rhizmoe> m112: once again, in english
[19:58] <bazhang> m112, all of your question on one line
[19:58] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: no prob
[19:59] <itatitat> OK, i have the script
[19:59] <itatitat> to install
[19:59] <IWorld> Hello.
[19:59] <itatitat> and now?
[19:59] <rhizmoe> itatitat: stop that
[19:59] <itatitat> aaah
[19:59] <itatitat> okok
[19:59] <itatitat> sorry
[19:59] <rhizmoe> /ignore itatitat
[19:59] <FloodBot1> itatitat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <IWorld> I have a quick question: comes Ubuntu 12.04 with HUB?
[19:59] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, fstab gives command not found
[19:59] <bazhang> IWorld, yep
[19:59] <belgianguy> yet I can remember using it :s
[19:59] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: it's a file. /etc/fstab
[19:59] <bazhang> IWorld, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 please
[20:00] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, boot into that kernel and try again
[20:00] <IWorld> ok
[20:00] <belgianguy> oops :$
[20:00] <m112> beam help
[20:00] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: man fstab
[20:00] <m112> read file system
[20:00] <m112> help
[20:00] <rhizmoe> m112: how old are you?
[20:01] <OerHeks> m112 try #ubuntu-ru if you can not explain your problem
[20:01] <m112> read only file system
[20:01] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, it's not listed in fstab, but this is a Dual Boot machine
[20:01] <m112> i not problem
[20:01] <itatitat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/891196/
[20:02] <belgianguy> it's an NTFS partition I want to get rid off, to give more room to Ubuntu
[20:02] <chalcedony> i need help with a backup and a problem: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=viRMnWxG
[20:02] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, I'm building it in a chroot.. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't be able to install all modules on their own via make modules_install? My .config for the chroot kernel is: http://pastebin.ca/2130148
[20:02] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, cause of uname -r giving bad information
[20:03] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Try $ ls -lah /dev/disks/by-label It will list all devs that are attached. You should find your drive there.
[20:04] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, I don't understand. Why would uname -r come into this? :/ Even if I did boot into the kernel, I wouldn't be able to mount / 'cos the modules aren't installed.
[20:04] <belgianguy> mcb_1, thanks, this shows some of the sd* devices
[20:05] <pfifo> chalcedony, I gave you the fix to your problem 2 days ago
[20:05] <mcb_1> belgianguy:  It should show you all the disks you have.
[20:05] <chalcedony> pfifo, oh.. relooking
[20:06] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, I dont know.. WHY would uname -r have anything to do with this :D ... to the google mobile!
[20:06] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Try $ ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid/ In case you have disks without labels.
[20:06] <belgianguy> mcb_1, the partition is called sdb5 in GParted, and I can't see it in the by-label list
[20:07] <belgianguy> so I'll try the by-uuid now
[20:07] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, hehehe, guess I sounded a bit pissy. My bad. :P
[20:07] <pfifo> chalcedony, you need to rename his home director and create a new one from /etc/skel
[20:07] <chalcedony> pfifo, did you mean this? :Mar:17:19:54:58 <pfifo>    chalcedony, try this 'sudo mv /home/chalcedony /home/old && sudo cp -a /etc/skel /home/chalcedony && sudo chown -R chalcedony:chalcedony /home/chalcedony'
[20:07] <belgianguy> mcb_1, it's there, :)
[20:08] <pfifo> chalcedony, yes exactly
[20:08] <belgianguy> now to find to see what's on it
[20:08] <chalcedony> pfifo, i was scared to do that
[20:08] <belgianguy> eg, if it's my Windows 7 boot partition, I'm stuck
[20:08] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Just mount it. $mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[20:08] <pfifo> chalcedony, it will fix your problem right away
[20:08] <belgianguy> I hope it's some random data that I can back up, and then delete the partition
[20:08] <Chaitanya> I have a huge 1 tb hard disk on which I want to use some command line utility to find files faster
[20:09] <TotalOblivionc> hello! I want to intall a chm viewer at ubuntu 10.04. Any idea how?
[20:09] <pfifo> chalcedony, of course youll need to replace chalcedony with his username
[20:09] <chalcedony> pfifo, *smile* - yes that wasn't the scary part
[20:10] <bazhang> TotalOblivionc, apt-cache search chm suggests a few
[20:10] <chalcedony> pfifo, should we check how much room he has on that hd first?
[20:10] <gr33n7007h> apt-get install gnochm
[20:10] <TotalOblivionc> bazhang: and after that sudo apt-get install <name> right?
[20:10] <bazhang> TotalOblivionc, yep
[20:10] <pfifo> chalcedony, ther is no copying or deleting, all your doing is renaming /home/chalcedony to /home/old
[20:10] <TotalOblivionc> bazhang: thanks a lot man! :)
[20:10] <gr33n7007h> apt-get install chmsee
[20:11] <Chaitanya> can you suggest any file finding utilty that works faster than find command
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !find chm
[20:11] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, it installs the modules in /usr/lib/uname -r so get your kernel to where it can boot and then configure the way you want
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Chaitanya: locate
[20:12] <Chaitanya> locate cannot find files by size, date, etc
[20:12] <chalcedony> *hugs* ActionParsnip :)) good to see you
[20:12] <csongor> hello!
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: howdy :-)
[20:12] <chalcedony> :)
[20:13] <csongor> Somebody can hlp me please?
[20:13] <Chaitanya> locate is faster than find command response but it cannot find files by size, date, etc.
[20:13] <Pici> !ask | Chaitanya
[20:13] <Pici> Chaitanya: sorry, mistab.
[20:13] <Pici> csongor: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[20:13] <bazhang> csongor, with what
[20:14] <spych102> auronandace: the proprietary amd/ati driver has done the trick for zenbound2
[20:14] <auronandace> csongor: you'd need to explain your problem to get help
[20:14] <Chaitanya> sorry
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Chaitanya: you can pipe the results of locate to other commands to get size and date...
[20:14] <auronandace> spych102: awesome, well done
[20:14] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, According to the makefile it installs it as: MODLIB  = $(INSTALL_MOD_PATH)/lib/modules/$(KERNELRELEASE). And /usr/lib/modules contains both 2.6.38 (stock ubuntu) and my own 2.6.39-sandbox directories with only the crypto modules in it. I'll just 'make modules' and hope for the best. :/
[20:15] <spych102> auronandace: and it looks like the drivers are better than they were with my hardware
[20:16] <spych102> auronandace: thanks for your help
[20:16] <Chaitanya> can you give any example of piping the results of locate to any other command. I have done this find $(locate -d external.db "this is my file.txt"). But it doesn't print file names with spaces or special character
[20:16] <belgianguy> okay, so I cleaned out the partition I no longer need
[20:16] <chalcedony> pfifo, after we do this, what do we need to do?
[20:16] <davide_at_debian> quit
[20:16] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, wait was make modules_install your first make command? that would explain everything
[20:16] <auronandace> spych102: no worries :)
[20:16] <belgianguy> there's only System Volume Information left
[20:17] <belgianguy> how much of a danger would it be to delete it and reclaim the space through GParted?
[20:17] <pfifo> chalcedony, after wards, all your files will need to be moved from /home/old back into your new directory. youll want to omit configuration files that you absolutly do not need
[20:18] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, nope. I did 'make', built the kernel + modules. Then I went to do 'make modules_install'.. and the kernel only installs those crypto modules.. Despite the kernel building nearly everything as a module.
[20:18] <V_PauAmma_V> Trying to troubleshoot a NIS/NFS problem, got it narrowed down to "something's wrong with my NIS setup" (ypcat on master server can't display passwd.byname), but nothing in config files looks obviously wrong to me. Details in http://paste.ubuntu.com/891212/ including /var/log/syslog excerpts. Which configuration file(s) should I blame?
[20:18] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, ahh, then n/m
[20:18] <chalcedony> pfifo, i made a space on his 2nd hard drive to back it up to- would that help or not?
[20:18] <mcb_1> belgianguy: If you delete a partition, all files are lost. Only by a  backup restore will you see the files again. It is an important system partition, you can make all the system unusable.....
[20:18] <pfifo> chalcedony, that is not needed
[20:19] <CharminTheMoose> Cheers. :)
[20:19] <belgianguy> mcb_1, I double checked, and made a backup^of what was on it (only pictures)
[20:19] <csongor> I isntalled ubuntu 10.10 mini cd and i want to create my own ubuntu without any programs i don't need. I installed a minimal gnome without any themes and i want to install ubuntu software center but the shell say's i must insall any dependecies and these dependencies dont i can't isntall these dependencies
[20:19] <belgianguy> but it's just a partition, not a whole HDD
[20:19] <chalcedony> pfifo, i see - let's see what happens :)
[20:19] <belgianguy> so I don't know how Windows will take the change
[20:19] <auronandace> !remaster | csongor
[20:19] <belgianguy> I'm in Ubuntu atm
[20:20] <mcb_1> If it only image, should be pretty safe..... As long as you alny mess with this partition and no other....
[20:20] <Pici> n
[20:20] <csongor> THX
[20:21] <doherty> What does adduser's --system option do? How is a system user different from a regular one?
[20:22] <metasansana> doherty: system users don't need home folders
[20:22] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Just to be sure. You are messing in a Windows partiotion? If so, I cant be sure what will happen, it can be safe it is not the windows system partition, but this is what i think, i dont know for sure.....
[20:24] <belgianguy> mcb_1, I can't see any Windows folder in the other partitions of this HDD
[20:24] <belgianguy> my swap space is in the partition I want to delete though
[20:24] <belgianguy> but that shouldn't be a problem, right?
[20:25] <MrHanjrah> !ping
[20:25] <chalcedony> can someone pfifo? remind me please of the command line command to reboot ?
[20:26] <MrHanjrah> chalcedony: to reboot the pc?
[20:26] <mcb_1> belgianguy: I never used a system without swap, and i must think that you can get problems if you use too much RAM and need to use swap space. It is not a good idea not to have a swap area.
[20:26] <MrHanjrah> as root, reboot
[20:26] <chalcedony> MrHanjrah, yes
[20:26] <belgianguy> I know, but I have 2 GB, which should be sufficient
[20:26] <chalcedony> ty
[20:26] <belgianguy> and I plan on reallocating swap space once the old NTFS partition is gone
[20:27] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Nevertheless, you shoud do $swapoff before you start messing with the this partition.
[20:27] <pfifo> chalcedony, i use `sudo init 6`
[20:27] <belgianguy> can I just "enlarge" my EXT4 partition?
[20:27] <belgianguy> ah, thanks
[20:27] <goddard> how can i remove the "chat" link from my notification thing ... i removed empathy and installed pidgin.
[20:27] <chalcedony> pfifo, thanks sudo reboot worked - it was at the login in the gui and i did your command via ssh .. let's see now
[20:27] <belgianguy> swap is off
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> mcb_1: you need swap for hibernate etc
[20:28] <trism> goddard: the chat item will disappear once you restart the indicators (so log in/log out should do it)
[20:28] <goddard> oh.. ok let me give it a shot
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: so make pidgin not use notifications?
[20:29] <mcb_1> ActionParsnip: But he want only to rezise the partition. So i think that a swapoff, resize end then swapon should be no problem. Whatt you think?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> mcb_1: sounds fine if that is the plan :-)
[20:30] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip, that is the plan
[20:30] <belgianguy> I'm just wondering if Windows will accept that change as well
[20:30] <belgianguy> or if it'll cr*p itself if it can't find it
[20:31] <mcb_1> belgianguy: If you told is right, and that is your Linux swap partition, Windows will not even know that something has changed.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: too much swap, so shrink swap then turn swap back on. With 2Gb RAM it should be ok
[20:31] <belgianguy> yeah, but the swap is only part of it, I'll upload a pic so I'm double sure
[20:31] <belgianguy> because I've broken it once
[20:32] <belgianguy> and it took me days to get it all back up
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: take a backup first
[20:32] <tbruff13>  can anyone help me figure out what package Kubuntu power manager is so i can update a bug report
[20:32] <tbruff13> this is in 12.04
[20:33] <auronandace> tbruff13: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until released
[20:33] <tbruff13> auronandace: i know but i assume the package name is the same as in other versions
[20:34] <mcb_1> belgianguy: You cant have something else in the same partition as the Linux Swap....... Can you?????? I never heard of it. You may have more than partition on the same disk, but a Linux Swap Partition will be only good for that and nothing else. As far as i can tell. Please tell me otherwise.
[20:34] <auronandace> tbruff13: dangerous to make assumtions
[20:34] <tbruff13> auronandace: i am waiting in that channel
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: still in #ubuntu+1 til release please
[20:34] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: ok
[20:34] <tbruff13> sorry
[20:34] <belgianguy> mcb_1, true, I'm uploadin a pic of GParted
[20:35] <chalcedony> pfifo, where is 'home/old' ? it doesn't show in ls
[20:36] <pfifo> chalcedony, its /home/old not home/old
[20:36] <auronandace> chalcedony: you mean /home/old
[20:36] <chalcedony> ok .. looking
[20:36] <belgianguy> http://i39.tinypic.com/w0ial1.png
[20:36] <belgianguy> the big part on the right should go/shrink
[20:36] <belgianguy> but it contains the swap (red)
[20:37] <belgianguy> the left blue part is the current Ubuntu allocated space
[20:37] <dysun> i have a pcie 4 port serial card. everytime i login i have to insmod to get the driver to work. is there a way i can get the card to work without using the insmod command?
[20:37] <V_PauAmma_V> (need to go, will ask again later or tomorrow)
[20:37] <BigR> hey, hwo can i install usenext and start the webserver via SSH ???
[20:37] <belgianguy> which is running out
[20:37] <Cache_Money> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu on a new laptop, it is already partitioned, however, the /dev/sda4 that I want to install it on has 'no root file system defined'.  sda2 is ntfs,
[20:37] <Cache_Money> I'm within the Ubuntu installer, do I change/delete/revert the sda4 partition?
[20:38] <chalcedony> pfifo, oh ok goody! now i see them!
[20:38] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you need to pick a partition to use as /
[20:38] <chalcedony> pfifo, cp (or mv) directory > what?
[20:39] <pfifo> chalcedony, are you able to log in I assume?
[20:39] <njaxx> Is there a guide or how to tips for hardening and securing an Ubuntu server, exposed to the internet, in the cloud?
[20:39] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I want to use sda4.
[20:39] <Cache_Money> /dev/sda4
[20:39] <chalcedony> pfifo, yes logged in with my husband's login in the gui :)
[20:39] <auronandace> Cache_Money: what filesystem is on sda4?
[20:40] <Cache_Money> auronandace   /dev/sda
[20:40] <chalcedony> pfifo, but like we all know, command line is faster ;)
[20:40] <auronandace> Cache_Money: what filesystem, ext4?
[20:40] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  how do I find that?  I'm within the Ubuntu installer currently
[20:41] <auronandace> Cache_Money: show us a screenshot
[20:41] <john__> hey guys, i isntalled ubuntu in vmware, how do i install the vmware program so I can have shared folders?
[20:41] <pfifo> chalcedony, good, now there is a file (or directory) in that /home/old that is causing the problem, you dont want to move that back over or else the problem will reappear. So youll want to move stuff one directory (or file) at a time.
[20:41] <john__> i clicked install vmware tools and it mounted, but when i try to open the virtual cd drive it tells me
[20:41] <john__> not authorized
[20:41] <chalcedony> pfifo, yes i understand :)
[20:41] <nibbler_> john__, open it as root?
[20:41] <mcb_1> belgianguy:look my private msg. I will try to write a lot there.
[20:41] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  imagebinl.org/204252
[20:41] <john__> nibbler_: how
[20:42] <Cache_Money> *imagebin.org/204252
[20:42] <pfifo> chalcedony, its safe to say is in a hidden directory or file (something starting with a .) and it obivously isnt your photos and personal files.
[20:42] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  sorry.  http://imagebin.org/204252
[20:42] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you need to format it
[20:42] <pfifo> chalcedony, I recommend using nautilus to move stuff little by little testing along the way.
[20:43] <chalcedony> pfifo, that makes sense, yes - except that Adobe 9 thing.. he's going to have to find something else to do with pdfs.
[20:43] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I'm currently booted off a USB.  Do I need to go back into Windows to do that or can I do it from the Ubuntu installer?
[20:43] <pfifo> !info evince | chalcedony
[20:43] <auronandace> Cache_Money: select sda4 and press the change button
[20:43] <gr33n7007h> Cache_Money, mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 /dev/sda4
[20:44] <moonunitzappa> Anyone know of a alternitive to cs3 adobe flash for linux?
[20:44] <chalcedony> pfifo, i would have thought so too.. dunno for what he wanted Adobe- maybe to write to pdfs?
[20:44] <auronandace> gr33n7007h: no need to complicate matters, he can do it from the installer
[20:44] <gr33n7007h> auronandace, sorry
[20:44] <chalcedony> and pfifo my initial question is where am i copying things TO?
[20:45] <auronandace> moonunitzappa: don't hurt me for suggesting this: gimp
[20:45] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  should I use as: Ext3 journaling file system ?
[20:45] <Cache_Money> gre33n7007h:  Should I run that command from the terminal?
[20:45] <auronandace> Cache_Money: or ext4 yes, and make it / as the mountpoint
[20:45] <wonderman> hi, can someone tell me if the latest drivers frmo jockey support nvidia 630m ?
[20:46] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  which do you suggest?  ext3 or ext4?
[20:46] <pfifo> chalcedony, to the new home directory.
[20:46] <levitsky> gaiieeez
[20:46] <auronandace> Cache_Money: i use ext4, its the default
[20:46] <chalcedony> pfifo, ok and how can i test them in nautilus?
[20:46] <levitsky> does ubuntu work on i686?
[20:46] <wylde> chalcedony: hiya! getting all sorted out I hope.
[20:46] <chalcedony> wylde, good day to you :)
[20:47] <chalcedony> wylde, what a long strange trip it's been ;)
[20:47] <auronandace> Cache_Money: also 512gb is rather big for your ubuntu partition, planning on using up all that space?
[20:47]  * Cache_Money is formatting his hard drive
[20:47] <pfifo> chalcedony, it really doesnt matter, you could leave them in /home/old if you wanted, or move them to the backup partition you wanted. You dont test in nautilus, every so ofte log out and back in to make sure you did copy the bad configs over
[20:47] <wylde> chalcedony: no doubt, I imagine you needed to do a re-install of the OS?
[20:47] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  No, but the laptop came with 1TB hard drive..
[20:47] <Mongoose> how do I tell if a usb port on front of my computer is working and what the number is?
[20:47] <moonunitzappa> auronandace, I  use gimp for img editing didnt know if could do f lash
[20:47] <pfifo> wylde, no
[20:48] <chalcedony> wylde, umm no.. moved home!
[20:48] <moonunitzappa> Totally new to flash, have no idea where to begin
[20:48] <auronandace> moonunitzappa: oh, flash, sorry misunderstood you
[20:48] <wylde> chalcedony:  excellent! Glad you're getting sorted out :)
[20:49] <BobSapp> is this the right room to talk about Description:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS nvidia drivers breaking?
[20:49] <dlentz> wonderman, don't install nvidia drivers
[20:49] <chalcedony> wylde pfifo i can't tell you how much i appreciate your help! - give me a few to explain it to my husband (in writing)
[20:49] <chalcedony> thank you a LOT!
[20:49] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  What does this  mean? http://imagebin.org/204257
[20:49] <auronandace> moonunitzappa: flash is made by adobe so i don't know of any open source flash editors (if thats what you call them)
[20:49] <dlentz> wonderman, gt630m is an optimus/hybrid design, so you need bumblebee/ironhide drivers
[20:49] <BobSapp> auronandace: openlaszlo can build flash files from a custom xml format
[20:50] <BobSapp> but flash is an outdated technology anyway these days, its all about html5
[20:50] <Mongoose> how do i tell what ports are in use?
[20:50] <BobSapp> Mongoose: sudo netstat -vatnp
[20:50] <Mongoose> tnx
[20:50] <wonderman> dlentz: can you explain more?
[20:50] <BobSapp> the p on the end tells you what program is running on what port
[20:51] <auronandace> Cache_Money: it means you need to recreate the partition
[20:51] <wonderman> i am getting a kernel error on boot, i am getting round it with 'nomodeset' as i used to have problems with an older laptop and this worked before
[20:51] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I deleted the partition and I'm creating a new one with EXT4.  Should the 'type for the new partition:' be Primary or Logical ?
[20:51] <auronandace> Cache_Money: delete that partition and make a new one in that space
[20:51] <Cache_Money> Logical is default
[20:51] <esmirlin> is anyone using gnome shell instead of unity?
[20:51] <auronandace> Cache_Money: stick with logical
[20:51] <wired_> esmirlin: yes
[20:52] <esmirlin> wired_: which version?
[20:52] <esmirlin> and how do you have it configured?
[20:52] <wired_> i'm actually not sure what version - my girlfriend has my laptop at the moment
[20:52] <wired_> configured in what way?
[20:52] <moonunitzappa> im using 10:10 with gnome
[20:52] <esmirlin> i want a full gnome shell experience but it seems ubuntu doesn't want the last things from them hehe
[20:52] <ChrisFromTheBay> Hey guys. I'm trying to view a local PHP file in Firefox, and have the PHP actually execute. On windows there's a program called WAMP, which allows you to do this. Is there something like this in Ubuntu? I'm a little new to Linux...
[20:53] <moonunitzappa> lamp
[20:53] <moonunitzappa> ChrisFromTheBay,
[20:53] <esmirlin> wired_: like scrollbars and global menus from unity, do you have them or removed them?
[20:53] <kbrosnan> the first *amp!
[20:53] <ChrisFromTheBay> :)
[20:53] <wired_> i kept them
[20:53] <wired_> do you want a screenshot?
[20:53] <esmirlin> please
[20:54] <esmirlin> hehe
[20:54] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  what is swap space?  http://imagebin.org/204259
[20:54] <esmirlin> i just find something weird with the global menu
[20:54] <esmirlin> when i launch an app it hides for a second the global menu until it reappears again
[20:54] <esmirlin> that's ennoying
[20:54] <auronandace> Cache_Money: if you p;an on hibernating you will need at least the same amount of swap as ram
[20:54] <auronandace> plan
[20:54] <ChrisFromTheBay> kbrosnan: Should I install Apache, or something?
[20:55] <josvuk> How to boot ubuntu without Xorg? I know this can be done .... think it has something to do with grub
[20:55] <kbrosnan> apache, php, mysql
[20:55] <kbrosnan> yeah
[20:55] <wired_> esmirlin: i sent you a PM
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[20:56] <chalcedony> [16:48:59] <BobSapp> is this the right room to talk about Description:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS nvidia drivers breaking?
[20:56] <chalcedony> [16:49:00] <dlentz> wonderman, don't install nvidia drivers
[20:56] <FloodBot1> chalcedony: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <chalcedony> [16:49:04] <chalcedony> wylde pfifo i can't tell you how much i appreciate your help! - give me a few to explain it to my husband (in writing)
[20:56] <kbrosnan> ChrisFromTheBay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP might be a bit dated but gives the basics
[20:56] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I have 8gb of SSD.  How do I link it to the partition?
[20:56] <wonderman> does anyone have a good guide on installing opitmus drivers on ubuntu ? a very up-to-date one, ie 2012?
[20:56] <auronandace> Cache_Money: what? ssd means solid state drive, ram is your memory
[20:57] <ChrisFromTheBay> thanks kbrosnan
[20:57] <kbrosnan> ChrisFromTheBay: https://www.google.com/search?q=lamp+ubuntu+11.10 as well
[20:58] <auronandace> Cache_Money: most partition setups consist of a / partition and a swap partition, if you don't plan to hibernate you don't need the swap partition
[20:58] <chalcedony> husband still looks like i killed his best friend.
[20:58] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I want to assign a swap partition to the 8gb SSD -- in case I need to hibernate.  It's unclear how to assign the swap partition
[20:59] <Cache_Money> unless it's going to mess things up since I'm dual booting
[20:59] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you make a partition just like you did with the new ext4 partition you made
[20:59] <auronandace> Cache_Money: its just a different file system:swap
[21:00] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  Ubuntu installer doesn't give me that option..  Oh well, sounds too difficult
[21:00] <auronandace> Cache_Money: msdos partitioned drives support 4 primary partitions, to use more than 4 you need to have an extended  partition into which you can make multiple logical partitions
[21:01] <belgianguy> anyone know how I could safely expand sdb4 in this scenario: http://i39.tinypic.com/w0ial1.png
[21:01] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you can't make more partitions if you don't have unallocated space
[21:02] <belgianguy> sdb3 can go, I've turned swap off and sdb5 is empty now
[21:02] <glacier> SASL Enable
[21:02] <auronandace> belgianguy: resize sda5 then move the swap and then resize sda3 then resize sda4
[21:03] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  that makes sense.  I doubt I'd use hibernation anyway
[21:03] <belgianguy> auronandace, and would I need to update GRUB (this is a dual boot machine)
[21:03] <auronandace> Cache_Money: ok, i don't either so i don't have a swap partition
[21:03] <j0bi> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2)   trying to install deepin-scrot to ubuntu 10.04
[21:04] <auronandace> belgianguy: i don't think so
[21:04] <auronandace> belgianguy: unless you are removing/adding operating systems then no
[21:04] <j0bi> gconf2 is installed
[21:05] <belgianguy> auronandace, no I'm not adding or removing OS'es, but sdb4 is the one that is running Ubuntui
[21:05] <belgianguy> can I resize it while it's "in use"?
[21:05] <bazhang> belgianguy, no
[21:05] <auronandace> belgianguy: no, you will need to do it from a livecd or other install
[21:06] <belgianguy> I have created a live USB some time ago
[21:06] <root> hi
[21:06] <mdpatrick> Varnish keeps giving a 503 error whenever I'm trying to send a large upload (several hundred mess) to my web server over http… can anyone help me understand whats going on? heres the relevant log section… http://pastebin.com/uNYY8mws
[21:06] <auronandace> belgianguy:  you can only resize partitions when they are unmounted
[21:06] <belgianguy> auronandace, yeah, thought as much
[21:07] <guntbert> Guest25129: don't irc as root - don#t do any day to day work as root
[21:07] <j0bi> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2) trying to install deepin-scrot to ubuntu 10.04
[21:07] <belgianguy> It'll have to wait then, I was planning on freeing up some space for the new Ubuntu
[21:07] <belgianguy> because it already complains each time when it updates :/
[21:08] <belgianguy> but then expanding my Ubuntu set up will take some more planning ;)
[21:09] <belgianguy> but thanks for outlining it for me, I understand how and what I should do
[21:09] <lion42> belgianguy, if you're going to be installing two copies of ubuntu alongside eachother on the same disc, you shouldn't need to "manually" repartition. If you can use the regular installer, you can use that to tell it how much of your current ubuntu partition you want to "take away" for the new install. Or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
[21:09] <swarze> ciao
[21:09] <Guest25129> root
[21:09] <swarze> !list
[21:09] <Guest25129> ?
[21:10] <auronandace> lion42: check his partitions
[21:10] <lion42> Guest25129, it seems like you're logged in as the administrator of your computer. This makes you more vulnerable than if you are logged in as a regular user. If this is your computer, log out and log back in as your regular user account- not as root.
[21:11] <lion42> I didn't even know users could ordinarly login as root on plain-old-ubuntu?
[21:11] <auronandace> lion42: its disabled by default
[21:11] <pfifo> how bout that, I can log in as root on your computer too :)
[21:12] <josvuk> How can I boot wihtout X11?
[21:12] <andrew_wmf> ^ super soaker
[21:12] <auronandace> !text | josvuk
[21:12] <andrew_wmf> my answer was funnier
[21:12] <Guest25129> *Black_risker
[21:13] <Guest25129> Black_risker
[21:13] <Guest25129> you here
[21:13] <Guest25129> Black_risker
[21:13] <pfifo> !seen Black_risker
[21:13] <lion42> Guest25129, there's no user here by that name.
[21:14] <lion42> -NickServ- black_risker is not registered.
[21:14] <Guest25129> we hackerx
[21:14] <Guest25129> hackerz
[21:14] <lion42> ...
[21:14] <lion42> rofl.
[21:14] <ChrisFromTheBay> you took a risk coming here...
[21:15] <lion42> Man, I was hoping that entertainment would continue.
[21:15] <triscuit> I'm downloading 12.04 .. so excite
[21:15] <mrmcgibby> If I upgrade now to 12.04 beta, will I have to reinstall when the actual release happens?
[21:15] <BlueEagle> !ot
[21:15] <josvuk> Can I boot without X11 if I use yaboot?
[21:15] <Sidewinder1> He/she's gone
[21:15] <dlentz> !release | triscuit
[21:15] <auronandace> !final | mrmcgibby
[21:15] <dlentz> err yeah, i meant 'final'
[21:16] <wonderman> hi, i am trying to install bumblebee, can somebody tell me if this guide should work fine? http://www.ivegotavirus.com/blog/2012/01/23/installing-bumblebee-3-0-tumbleweed-on-ubuntu/
[21:16] <gggo> ubuntu or debian as a distro for someone who'd like to learn some stuff about linux? i fear ubuntu is going to spoonfeed too much.
[21:17] <OerHeks> wonderman, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee & the channel #Bumblebee
[21:17] <auronandace> gggo: slackware or linux from scratch, to learn true linux
[21:17] <ikonia> gggo: try them, see what you like
[21:17] <wonderman> thanks OerHeks
[21:17] <dlentz> wonderman, that looks right, but i don't personally have an optimus system
[21:17] <ikonia> gggo: if you can't even work out which distro to use, sounds like some spoon feeding will get you started
[21:18] <BlueEagle> gggo: I started out on Mandrake linux back in the days. I think that tinkering around with a pretty well out-of-the-box setup is a good place to start. After you get the hang of the basics you can move on. Then you can go to something like a server setup and build on that to suit yourself and then try Gentoo and LFS if you really want to sit and watch stuff compile.
[21:18]  * pfifo is building an LFS right now
[21:19] <dougmencken> hi
[21:20] <mrfunk> hello, according to this website http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ my ports are closed and i need to open some of them
[21:20] <dougmencken> I can launch alien arena game
[21:20] <josvuk> What starts Xorg in my configuration files?
[21:20] <auronandace> josvuk: gdm (11.04 and under) lightdm (11.10+)
[21:21] <mrfunk> i need to permanently open some ports as 445, could anyone help me out please?
[21:21] <pfifo> mrfunk, no you dont want to just open ports
[21:22] <mrfunk> pfifo: i really need it for this game i play, please help me man
[21:23] <imapiekindaguy> afternet.org
[21:23] <dr3mro> hello i am having issue with oneiric .. i cant switch users and only i can use the user that is autologin if i tried o switch users i only get black screen and i have to reboot to make it work again ,,,
[21:23] <OerHeks> mrfunk, few hours back you got many suggestions, open ports in your router, and open ports in your firewall
[21:23] <josvuk> where are the man pages from gdm?
[21:23] <pfifo> mrfunk, that site doesnt report the port as open unless there is something listening on the port
[21:24] <mrfunk> OerHeks: yea i know, the thing is i didnt really get it to work as expected, according to this site: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ the ports are still closed, i need to permanently open (and being able to close them when i stop playing) some ports
[21:25] <mrfunk> pfifo: still, i need this game to have the ports open otherwise it doesnt work as expeted, i cannot play ladder games &/or host :\
[21:25] <pfifo> mrfunk, I recommend learning how to forward ports on your router and open ports on your firewall
[21:26] <mrfunk> pfifo: i already did that, and im using a modem..
[21:26] <pfifo> mrfunk, so then whats the problem?
[21:26] <mrfunk> maybe there is no way to do this in ubuntu?
[21:26] <jsebean> Hi
[21:26] <mrfunk> pfifo: i cannot host any games
[21:27] <pfifo> mrfunk, then you did something wrong
[21:27] <jsebean> We had a script on a server that caused the site get hacked how do I completely uninstall all phpmyadmin files in ubuntu and reinstall?
[21:28] <pfifo> jsebean, if you got haced you need to format everything and reinstall the OS
[21:28] <mrfunk> pfifo: i already tried everything, i disabled the firewall, added the rules to allow in from 6112 to 6119 and still
[21:28] <triscuit> Does anyone have experience with the unity dock in 12.04?
[21:28] <OerHeks> mrfunk sounds like your provider does not allow running a service, do they?
[21:28] <OerHeks> mrfunk they closed port 1-1024?
[21:28] <mrfunk> OerHeks: yes they do
[21:28] <pfifo> mrfunk, in that case you ISP is blocking those port, theres nothing you can do about that
[21:28] <dr3mro> hello i am having issue with oneiric .. i cant switch users and only i can use the user that is autologin if i tried o switch users i only get black screen and i have to reboot to make it work again ,,,
[21:29] <mrfunk> pfifo: my isp is not blocking any ports man
[21:29] <TorbenBeta> How can I write in a shell script, that a process should be put on hold?
[21:29] <krusty> !list
[21:29] <pfifo> mrfunk, well then... you did something wrong
[21:29] <OerHeks> mrfunk, disable your firewall temporarely and see if the ports are open?
[21:30] <Cache_Money> I just installed Ubuntu from USB, it told me I needed to restart.  However, after restarting it went straight into booting Windows.  How do I make it so I can choose which OS to boot?
[21:30] <mrfunk> OerHeks: i disabled the firewall and according to http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ the ports i need are still closed, although 445 is open
[21:31] <dlentz> Cache_Money, you need to install grub, which installer should have done
[21:31] <Cache_Money> dlentz:  Hmm.. Do i need to change a setting in BIOS?
[21:31] <OerHeks> mrfunk, a) your modem has its own firewall-rules, or b) you are not allowed to use ports 1-1024
[21:32] <dlentz> Cache_Money, http://askubuntu.com/questions/24479/no-grub-after-installing-ubuntu-10-10-beside-windows-7-straight-to-windows#24486
[21:33] <mrfunk> OerHeks: i used to host with this modem, and my isp doesnt have any rules regarding ports
[21:33] <bean> maybe they do now
[21:33] <bean> and didnt before.
[21:33] <bean> and / or your router has firewall setup
[21:34] <mrfunk> bean bro i dont use a router
[21:34] <bean> ah, sry "bro"
[21:34] <OerHeks> mrfunk then it makes no sence. firewall down, no modem-firewall ...
[21:35] <Zaitzev> evening folks
[21:36] <bean> mrfunk, are you connected to IRC from that connection?
[21:36] <pfifo> mrfunk, are you testing your ports with the game running?
[21:36] <user_> hi
[21:36] <mrfunk> bean: yep, pfifo nope gonna give it  a try, brb
[21:36] <pfifo> mrfunk, well duh, nothing using a port = port closed
[21:37] <bean> "bro" thinks he knows what he's talking about imo.
[21:37] <bean> his port 6112 is open now
[21:37] <Zaitzev> all of a sudden i've started getting these purple pixels all over the place, randomly
[21:37] <user_> ldldlldldl
[21:37] <Zaitzev> playing videos, on certain parts of the desktop..
[21:38] <pfifo> Zaitzev, try turning off video overlay
[21:38] <Zaitzev> ?
[21:38] <Zaitzev> it wasn't like this last night
[21:38] <mrfunk> pfifo: you were right, i opened the game, tried to host and one of the 8 ports i need to host was open, still no luck with hosting :\
[21:38] <dlentz> Zaitzev, so what changed, any system updates, etc?
[21:38] <Zaitzev> this started randomly just recently
[21:39] <matt_symes> TorbenBeta: Check out kill with SIGSTOP, SIGCONT and pgrep
[21:39] <Zaitzev> I have no idea how either, I haven't done anything in particular
[21:39] <Zaitzev> I have tried resetting unity, rebooted, no change
[21:39] <bean> mrfunk, is this for warcraft3?
[21:39] <pfifo> mrfunk, good, and we cant help you with the games internal problems, youll have to contact the developer or distrubitor
[21:39] <dlentz> Zaitzev, have you tried a livecd or other OS?
[21:39] <mrfunk> bean: yea
[21:40] <mrfunk> pfifo: its weird because it used to work, maybe the game is fuckd up then :\
[21:40] <Zaitzev> dlentz: not yet no, was hoping it could be resolved before doing anything "drastic"
[21:40] <dr3mro> please help me with light dm fail with black screen
[21:40] <pfifo> !language | mrfunk
[21:40] <mrfunk> pfifo: what bothers me is that others can host right now and i cannot
[21:40] <Zaitzev> dlentz, here's a short videoclip of how it looks like: http://speedy.sh/fvUtP/IMG-0133.MOV
[21:40] <dlentz> trying a livecd/usb won't change anything and is good to rule out hardware failure
[21:40] <mrfunk> pfifo: sorry sorry sorry
[21:41] <bean> mrfunk, i was able to see port 6112 open up for you. and that's really the only one that is needed for Wc3
[21:41] <bean> mrfunk, unless you changed settings for your hosting port in the options
[21:41] <mrfunk> bean, is that the only port?
[21:42] <pfifo> mrfunk, maybe your banned from hosting due to cheating?
[21:42] <bean> mrfunk, http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/firewall-configuration-for-blizzard-games#q-4
[21:42] <dlentz> Zaitzev, I'd also double-check the cable and make sure it's toght
[21:42] <mrfunk> pfifo: lol nope, it wouldnt let me even start to play, as soon as i get to the game and the host has to be resolved bam
[21:42] <Zaitzev> dlentz: it is, that's the first thing I checked hehe
[21:44] <pfifo> mrfunk, pastebin the output of `ip addr`
[21:44] <mrfunk> thank you bean, everything seems to be clear now, the server is not working properly maybe?
[21:44] <mrfunk> pfifo: okay
[21:44] <ChrisFromTheBay> I've had issues with WC3 on PC too...
[21:44] <ChrisFromTheBay> good game though
[21:44] <mrfunk> http://pastebin.com/ibssMTJp
[21:45] <Krambiorix> hi guys, in which channel should i be for virtualbox?
[21:45] <Zaitzev> dlentz: The "Additional Drivers" dialog, which of the two choices should I use? There's "Recommended" and "version current-updates" to choose from. The "Recommended" is active and has been since day 1
[21:45] <codeshah> hey guys exec: 34: /lib/init/upstart-job: not found
[21:45] <guntbert> Krambiorix: #vbox
[21:45] <codeshah> … anyone seen this? I cant start sshd
[21:45] <codeshah> ubuntu 10.04
[21:45] <Krambiorix> thx!
[21:46] <mrfunk> ChrisFromTheBay: yea man, do you have any tips for this issue?
[21:46] <bean> mrfunk, are you on dialup? o.o
[21:47] <Cache_Money> dlentz:  I went through this tutorial and it still boots straight into Windows  http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[21:47] <mrfunk> bean: dsl with a modem, i have a username and password..
[21:47] <guntbert> codeshah: try   sudo service ssh start
[21:47] <ChrisFromTheBay> mrfunk: if you have PeerGuardian, it can block Blizzard ips
[21:47] <codeshah> guntbert: unknown service ssh
[21:47] <codeshah> hmm
[21:47] <Cache_Money> dlentz:  is there a difference between GRUB and GRUB2?
[21:48] <mrfunk> ChrisFromTheBay: i dont seem to have it
[21:48] <OerHeks> guntbert, codeshah sudo service sshd start
[21:48] <codeshah> hmm… sshd: unrecognized service
[21:49] <codeshah> should I uninstall openssh-server and reinstall?
[21:49] <guntbert> codeshah:  what does apt-cache policy  ssh-server say?
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> Cache_Money  of course, or there would be need to rename it => point 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[21:49] <guntbert> OerHeks: wrong, alas :-)
[21:49] <codeshah> ssh-server, installed: (none), candidate (none), version table empty
[21:49] <bean> mrfunk, your connection could just be too slow to host.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> no need*
[21:49] <bean> mrfunk, / i wouldn't try to host on that slow of a connection
[21:50] <dlentz> Cache_Money, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[21:50] <codeshah> guntbert: something wrong with install? uninstall it?
[21:50] <dlentz> sorry, i should have been more specific
[21:50] <bean> I also don't know how well hosting a windows game on a linux box would work, mrfunk
[21:50] <guntbert> codeshah: no, the service is named ssh
[21:50] <mrfunk> bean: i used to host with 1/4 of this without any delay man
[21:50] <dlentz> Zaitzev, if the recommended driver worked, then try reinstalling it
[21:50] <codeshah> guntbert: any ideas what should I do?
[21:51] <guntbert> codeshah: I'm searching
[21:52] <oCean> guntbert: codeshah package is openssh-server     apt-cache policy openssh-server
[21:52] <bean> mrfunk, can you connect to battle.net at all?
[21:52] <guntbert> oCean: thx,
[21:52] <jaha> how do i control an upstart job without sudo
[21:52] <jaha> EX: start foojob, stop foojob
[21:52] <jaha> i added the setuid and setgid but no go
[21:52] <codeshah> installed: 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu7 candidate (same)
[21:53] <codeshah> guntbert: letm e paste somewhere sec
[21:53] <bean> mrfunk, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126 says that you need to get a patched version of WINE
[21:53] <guntbert> !paste | codeshah
[21:53] <codeshah> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891383/
[21:53] <mrfunk> bean: yes, as soon as i enter any ladder games that I have to host i get disconnected immediately, if the other player is hosting i can play, also i cannot seem to be able to host any custom games
[21:54] <dr3mro> please help me i can't switch users , when I switch users i get blank screen and i have to reboot
[21:54] <bean> mrfunk, what version of wine are you running?
[21:54] <codeshah> guntbert: I get exec: 34: /lib/init/upstart-job: not found … when trying to run it from /etc/init.d … I wonder why. upstart-job shouldn't be missing
[21:54] <drounse> is the method of booting an .img different than booting an .iso
[21:55] <codeshah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/839764
[21:55] <mrfunk> 1.3.28
[21:55] <mrfunk> bean: 1.3.28
[21:55] <bean> mrfunk, you need to upgrade your WINE
[21:55] <bean> mrfunk, you need at least 1.3.4
[21:56] <diskinetic> my display chops off the bottom and top of the screen.
[21:56] <bean> err, nvm, mrfunk
[21:57] <guntbert> codeshah: the problem (in my eyes) is that we are in the middle of a migration from sysv to upstart - and very often cannot know which mechanism will work
[21:57] <mrfunk> bean: what should i do then?
[21:57] <dlentz> bean, there was no wine 1.3.40
[21:57] <codeshah> guntbert: sorry can you elaborate? sysv to upstart?
[21:57] <bean> dlentz, i said 1.3.4, not 40
[21:57] <bean> and i was wrong.
[21:57] <codeshah> guntbert: should I maybe install an older openssh version?
[21:57] <bean> mrfunk, does your wine console show you any errors when you disconnect hosting?
[21:58] <red_> buenas
[21:58] <mrfunk> bean: fixme:winsock:WS2_async_accept AcceptEx accepting socket closed but request was not cancelled
[21:58] <guntbert> codeshah: not very important (sorry for the aside) - no installing another version will not help - my concern was that there are several ways to start a service
[21:58] <mrfunk> bean: i think that is what i need to fix
[21:59] <pfifo> why can't i remove lsb-release and lsb-core
[21:59] <ikonia> why do you want to ?
[21:59] <ikonia> they help identify ubuntu to the package manager and provide the base install
[22:00] <pfifo> because I dont like the lsb standard
[22:00] <guntbert> codeshah: lets start simple:    type  /etc/init.d/ssh status     (no sudo needed)
[22:01] <ikonia> pfifo: you don't like it ? in what way ?
[22:01] <gr33n7007h> service ssh status
[22:01] <ikonia> pfifo: you don't like the base components that are used to make up ubuntu ?
[22:01] <mrfunk> bean: i know that shouldnt be an issue but i keep seeing this message: fixme:winsock:WS2_async_accept AcceptEx accepting socket closed but request was not cancelled
[22:01] <mrfunk>  and people are not able to join the game
[22:02] <dlentz> mrfunk is it warcraft3?
[22:02] <diskinetic> my display does odd things indeed
[22:02] <mrfunk> dlentz: yes, frozen throne
[22:02] <diskinetic> it doesn't fit all the screen elements onscreen
[22:02] <codeshah> guntbert: sorry give me 1 sec...
[22:02] <kesi> Anybody know how to add a CPU and HDD temperature monitor to the unity top panel?
[22:02] <dlentz> there are 2 others complaining of that same error: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126
[22:02] <codeshah> guntbert: I am on web console so a bit slow :(
[22:02] <Benkinooby2> hi, i am looking for benchamrks of different media players on ubuntu but my google-fu wasn't strong enough... anyone can send me a useful link? or show me a way to benchmark on my own?
[22:02] <guntbert> codeshah: no worries
[22:02] <pfifo> ikonia, its forcing me to operate my system in a predetermined fashion and eliminating the freedom ive come to expect from open source software.
[22:03] <bean> dlentz, mrfunk I wonder if it has to do with him being on ppp0 as opposed to eth0, though it shouldn't matter.
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: what are you talking about
[22:03] <pfifo> ikonia, i dont know
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: how is it stopping you doing anything ?
[22:03] <mrfunk> bean: i dont know either man
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: right - so stop making stuff up
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: it's not stopping you do anything
[22:04]  * pfifo stops fiddling with his cannocial branded handcufss and goes back to laboring in the salt mine
[22:05] <dlentz> bean, i would try the latest version of wine (1.4), and if that doesn't fix it, seek help from wine experts
[22:05] <bean> dlentz, agreed.
[22:05] <freddy> test
[22:05] <bean> mrfunk, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:05] <dlentz> freddy, ack
[22:06] <mrfunk> bean: im actually on linux mint man but its the same as ubuntu 11
[22:06] <freddy> i am u french newbe
[22:06] <codeshah> guntbert: agh web console is crashing sec :(
[22:06] <mrfunk> bean, dlentz how can i upgrade wine?
[22:06] <oCean> mrfunk: mint is not supported here, and for help with wine, please /join #winehq
[22:06] <diskinetic> I just want to say how much I love ubuntu
[22:07] <diskinetic> and my screen is jacked up
[22:07] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn a mpg to dvd using growisofs... the dvd skips in a dvd player, otherwise it plays fine. anyone have any suggestions for me?
[22:07] <szal> !mint | mrfunk
[22:07] <codeshah> rebooting system :(
[22:07] <mrfunk> oCean: yea i know man, but as its the same thing i thought you could help me out, im sorry for any inconvenience
[22:07] <nate_h> is there a way to make aptitude ignore gpg keys?
[22:07] <nate_h> i have some sources that don't have gpg keys that I need to ignore for testing purposes
[22:07] <OerHeks> mrfunk, mint has its own issues.
[22:07] <guntbert> codeshah: try again afterwards - but I'm on my way to bed -- Good luck :-)
[22:08] <dlentz> mrfunk, install wine1.3 package (actually, it's version 1.4) from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[22:08] <oCean> mrfunk: nope, it is not the same. #linuxmint-help is not on Freenode, but irc.spotchat.org fyi
[22:08] <thetinyjesus> anyone know how to get a nvidia GT310m card working 100%
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> mrfunk  mint is almost but not quite the same
[22:08] <Guest58281> forgive my insolence friends, but I was curious if there's a way to make Ubuntu 11.10 more Mac-like (than it already is.) As in, replace the Unity launcher with AWN while keeping the app-menu?
[22:08] <Guest58281> :D
[22:09] <mrfunk> i know please forgive me for what ive done i really dont want any trouble
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest58281  there's an ubuntu based, mac-like distro, but that's not supported here
[22:09] <oCean> mrfunk: no problem at all
[22:09] <adac> I'm trying to remove an old kernel: http://pastebin.com/fTC1DvQr but I get an error. unfortunately my boot partition is full, so i cannot execute apt-get -f install. Any ideas?
[22:10] <Pumpkin-> nate_h: -o APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated I think from memory. If not that, something similar.
[22:10] <dlentz> thetinyjesus, if you've installed the driver, it should work "100%"
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest58281  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:12] <OerHeks> thetinyjesus, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/658657, you need the x-swat ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[22:12] <Guest58281> MonkeyDust, thank you anyway.  I'll go see what I can find out in the offtopic channel.  Take care.
[22:12] <thetinyjesus> ubottu: thank you
[22:12] <dlentz> i didn't know 310m was a hybrid chip?
[22:13] <jeagle> Quick question, does anyone know how to install fonts for /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/ ? This is a Ghostscript issue. :(
[22:13] <thetinyjesus> OerHeks: thanks
[22:13] <jeagle> For some reason I keep getting "Unable to load times-roman font
[22:13] <jeagle> "
[22:14] <Praxi> are there any current light weight image editors?  similar to irfanview but without running wine?
[22:14]  * Sidewinder1 Thought that Times Roman was default in just about everything..
[22:14] <Praxi> gimp is nice and all, but its way too much
[22:15] <Benkinooby2> Praxi, there are progs with less functions too, ya know ;)
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Praxi  gthumb
[22:15] <Sidewinder1> Praxi, F-spot?
[22:20] <dlentz> jeagle, did you try reinstalling gsfonts package?
[22:20] <Praxi> ok will take a look any you guys think are better/easier?
[22:20] <Praxi> f-spot or gthumb?
[22:20] <l33t911> Hello
[22:20] <jeagle> dlentz: Well, it wasn't originally on, so I just installed it, and still nothing. :(
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Praxi  best way to find out, is trying
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> both
[22:20] <l33t911> RTFM
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> !rtfm| l33t911
[22:21] <l33t911> can I use Ok?
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> ok
[22:22] <l33t911> I think you should censor
[22:22] <l33t911> its your life
[22:22] <nate_h> hey
[22:22] <oCean> l33t911: do you have an actual support question?
[22:22] <nate_h> i'm running 2.7.12 in ubuntu
[22:22] <nate_h> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/puppet/ssl/key.rb:46:in `initialize': Neither PUB key nor PRIV key:: header too long (OpenSSL::PKey::RSAError)
[22:22] <nate_h> i'm sorry wrong chan
[22:22] <FloodBot1> nate_h: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <dlentz> jeagle, do you have /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/n021003l.pfb
[22:25] <jeagle> dlentz: if that 31 is an L and not a 1 then yes. :P
[22:30] <dlentz> jeagle, i'm stumped, maybe try running update-gsfontmap
[22:30] <Praxi> hmm ok F-Spot and Gthumb are just light weight image viewers.  Heres what I like about irfanview.  I open it, hit ctrl V, and bam got my screenshot right there ready to work on.  It has a tool bar to draw lines and makes boxes for tutorial type screenshots.  Without being as advanded as gimp can anyone think of anything simple like that?
[22:30] <jeagle> dlentz: ok i'll try that! thanks :) I'll keep you informed. :)
[22:31] <satoshi_> Unity sucks!
[22:31] <fubsi> why?
[22:31] <oCean> satoshi_: this is not the right place for such rants.
[22:32] <Zaitzev> dlentz: Hey again. I'm on Windows now. The problem doesn't occur here at all, so it is definitely an Ubuntu issue.
[22:33] <satoshi_> Too long to find what you need with the search field...
[22:33] <dlentz> Zaitzev, that's good news
[22:33] <Zaitzev> in a way, it is
[22:34] <Zaitzev> at least it's not a hardware issue. I tried removing the nvidia driver, as well as installing the one I didn't use, and then back again. Nothing helped.
[22:34] <satoshi_> I installed back my Lucid.
[22:34] <Praxi> satoshi_, try gnome-do?
[22:34] <ripper_> I'm having issues with skype
[22:34] <ripper_> when someone tries to send me video it kills my session
[22:35] <ripper_> any ideas?
[22:35] <satoshi_> Me too ripper =)
[22:35] <ripper_> like it fully logs you out? ! satoshi_
[22:35] <Quantum_Ion> satoshi_, Why because of Unity ?
[22:35] <ripper_> i've tried using various window managers too
[22:35] <ripper_> and still zip
[22:35] <dlentz> !enter | ripper
[22:36] <ripper_> dlentz, sorry
[22:36] <satoshi_> Yes And because of sounds issues since i update my 11.04 to 11.10  64
[22:36] <ripper_> i'm using 12.04 if that helps
[22:36] <Quantum_Ion> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
[22:36] <Zaitzev> dlentz: I suspect Unity being the perp, but I can't say for sure.
[22:36] <dalek_> how do I get to a terminal? My PC won't boot after removing nvidia drivers.......
[22:36] <satoshi_> And many issues with flash plugins too.
[22:36] <jeagle> dlentz: This is the error I keep getting... "Can't find (or can't open) font file /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/Courier." does this for helvetica, and times-roman as well...
[22:36] <satoshi_> Yeah ripper.
[22:37] <dlentz> Zaitzev, then you hsould try some lightweight environment like lxde just to see
[22:37] <Zaitzev> dlentz: Uh, what?
[22:37] <fubsi> ripper_, 12.04 is still beta
[22:37] <dlentz> instead of using unity log in to lxde
[22:37] <Praxi> dalek_, ctrl alt F2?
[22:37] <Zaitzev> how do I do that exactly? choose at the login prompt or something?
[22:38] <satoshi_> Lot of trouble with gnome 3 and nvidia drivers.
[22:38] <fubsi> ripper_, wot do u get from the shell when u start skype from there?
[22:38] <Zaitzev> nvidia drivers are problematic regardless..
[22:39] <dalek_> ok I got a terminal... now I am getting command not found for nvidia-xconfig
[22:39] <Seryth> Hey all, quick question. I popped in a blank DVD, and dragged some .avi files onto it. Perfect, works great. However, I'd like to be able to re-name the disc? Atm it's just called "Blank DVD+R Disc" and I'd like to rename this...how can I do that easily?
[22:40] <tosh> alguien me podŕia echar la mano... recien bajé un archivo .jpg en ubuntu 11.10 se creo un icono de mundo en el panel inferior que es un enlace url a esa foto inernet y por mas que quiero no la puedo quitar o borrar del panel inferior??????????????
[22:40] <dlentz> Zaitzev, yes, but you need to install lxde first (sudo apt-get install  --no-install-recommends lxde)
[22:40] <CFHowlett_> !es|tosh
[22:40] <dalek_> I installed nvidia-current .....what else do I need to install to get nvidia drivers running again?
[22:40] <Quantum_Ion> Do you know if this is stable - > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:40] <Zaitzev> dlentz: I'm gonna boot into Ubuntu again soon, I'll try and remember it.
[22:40] <Quantum_Ion> Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS ?
[22:41] <Zaitzev> I'm probably gonna forget it, but heck.. :P
[22:41] <CFHowlett_> Quantum_Ion   it's beta.  *beta*!
[22:41] <dlentz> Quantum_Ion, not officially
[22:41] <Quantum_Ion> dlentz, CFHowlett_, okay
[22:41] <dlentz> Zaitzev, then just remember to install lxde package
[22:42] <Zaitzev> dlentz: yeah, but that whole no-recommend thing.. guess I should write it down. :p
[22:42] <diskinetic> my screen chops off some of the graphics of the desktop and has weird sizing issues
[22:43] <dalek_> I am getting nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[22:43] <fubsi> diskinetic, resolution of screen issue?
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  type /join #ubuntu+1
[22:43] <diskinetic> I'm unsure
[22:44] <fubsi> diskinetic, have u changed screen already, did u try?
[22:44] <fubsi> i mean resolution
[22:44] <diskinetic> fubsi it worked well as a live usb, but the install chops up the screen
[22:44] <diskinetic> yes
[22:44] <ripper_> fubusi havent tried that
[22:45] <diskinetic> the resolutions change, but the screen loses about say a centimeter on each side
[22:45] <fubsi> ripper_, try to start from terminal and look wot he says after crash
[22:45] <diskinetic> btw, using xubuntu, if that helps
[22:45] <fubsi> diskinetic, sounds like screen problem, no?
[22:45] <ripper_> fubsi, thats the problem, after it crashes, so does X
[22:45] <Zaitzev> diskinetic: are you on single or multiple monitors?
[22:45] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Thanks
[22:45] <jeagle> Does anyone know what this error means and how to fix it in ghost script..? :) "Can't find (or can't open) font file /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/Courier."
[22:45] <diskinetic> single
[22:46] <fubsi> ripper_, ah right! :-)
[22:46] <fubsi> forgot
[22:46] <ripper_> fubsi, any ideas?
[22:46] <Zaitzev> diskinetic: alright. Google "disper" and see if that can do anything for you. It's for multi-monitors mainly, but might do the trick.
[22:46] <ripper_> is there a way to grep output to stdout and pipe to a file?
[22:46] <diskinetic> k
[22:46] <fubsi> ripper_, start skype like: "skype > log.txt"
[22:46] <fubsi> ripper_, after u can see wot is written in log file
[22:47] <ripper_> hmm going to try this
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> or skype| tee skype.log
[22:47] <fubsi> ripper_, remember 12.04 is beta
[22:47] <ripper_> is there a way to revert back to 11.10?
[22:47] <fubsi> or like MonkeyDust says
[22:47] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Is the release date for 12.04 -> April 12 2012 ?
[22:47] <CFHowlett_> ripper_   reinstallation
[22:48] <ripper_> CFHowlett_, there has to be another way
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  yes, but better ask that in the channel i just gave
[22:48] <fubsi> ripper_, I dont know
[22:48] <oCean> ripper_: 12.04 is not supported in this channel, /join #ubuntu+1 for that
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  april 26
[22:48] <fubsi> ripper_, best is: data backup and reinstall
[22:48] <josef_> q
[22:48] <josef_> exit
[22:49] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, thanks
[22:49] <josef_> howto quit irssis?
[22:49] <ripper_> type /quit
[22:50] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn a mpg to dvd using growisofs... the dvd skips in a dvd player, otherwise it plays fine. anyone have any suggestions for me?
[22:55] <dumnut> hi, i want to find out if my laptop is 32-bit or 64-bit, what is the terminal command to find thaqt out?
[22:56] <Quantum_Ion> dumnut, How much memory do you have ?
[22:56] <dumnut> Quantum_Ion: 21gb left
[22:56] <Quantum_Ion> dumnut, Memory 4GB or more = 64 bit
[22:56] <CFHowlett_> dumnut   if more than 64 gigs of ram = 64 bit
[22:56] <dumnut> Quantum_Ion: how do i find what memory i have?
[22:57] <dumnut> ram memory
[22:57] <CFHowlett_> dumnut   free -m
[22:58] <CFHowlett_> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[22:58] <dumnut> thankyou for your help Quantum_Ion and CFHowlett_
[23:00] <gdea73> hello. Is there any way I can still install sun-java6-jre via a package rather than configuring everything manually?
[23:00] <gdea73> I'd much rather have a package to install so it's easier to remove and will work automatically for all users, provided that update-alternatives is set.
[23:00] <gdea73> I know there is no more sun-java6-jre package in the Multiverse repository but is there a 3rd party one that hosts it?
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> gdea73  sun-java is no longer adviced, use open-java
[23:01] <nyRednek> open-java is certified compatible
[23:01] <Quantum_Ion> dumnut, This is also a good command for checking memory on your system - > sudo dmidecode --type memory
[23:02] <gdea73> MonkeyDust: okay thanks, though I found it anyway, it was ppa:sun-java-community-team/sun-java ;)
[23:02] <gdea73> though wait, are you saying that openjava executes Java code the exact same as Sun Java (performance-wise)? Will I not find any incompatibilities with Java apps or performance drops?
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> gdea73  oracle no longer supports java for linux
[23:02] <gdea73> what?? well they still *provide* it, don't they? Their repository still works ...
[23:03] <gdea73> so for example, would OpenJDK be sufficient for Minecraft server hosting, etc.?
[23:03] <BryanRuiz1> no java for linux? thats crazy
[23:03] <itaylor57> MonkeyDust, that is not actually correct
[23:03] <BryanRuiz1> sun java*
[23:03] <gdea73> no proprietary Sun java, is what he was saying. But they still have it to some degree, right?
[23:03] <gdea73> right.
[23:04] <itaylor57> i am running oracle 7
[23:04] <nyRednek> itaylor57: oracle 7 what?
[23:04] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, That is not true check here - > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[23:04] <itaylor57> i am running oracle 7 java
[23:05] <Quantum_Ion> itaylor57, Me too
[23:05] <gdea73> where's the default plugin directory, where I'd find libnpjp2.so?
[23:05] <nyRednek> itaylor57: ok, consider, oracle makes a lot of products...you need to be specific
[23:05] <Cache_Money> Previously, I was having trouble booting into Ubuntu, WIndows would boot automatically.  Now, when I ran the Boot-Repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  My computer automatically boots into Windows.  Why can't I bring up an option to choose?
[23:05] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Check this out - > http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:05] <gdea73> ^ I can't find the file libnpjp2.so. I thought that's what it was called...
[23:05] <Quantum_Ion> Cache_Money, Might have to reinstall grub
[23:06] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, Are you 64bit or 32bit ?
[23:06] <gdea73> 64bit
[23:06] <gdea73> I installed sun-java6-plugin, but I can't find the .so file to copy/link into Opera's plugin directory.
[23:06] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   easiest way to get the menu is to press the shift key after P.O.S.T. completes
[23:06] <Cache_Money> Quantum_Ion:  I thought I just did that.. maybe it was GRUB2.  Is there a difference?
[23:07] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   grub is not grub2
[23:07] <CFHowlett_> grub2 is default since 9.10 IIRC
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  gdea73 itaylor57 offtopic: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[23:08] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, Uninstall sun-java6-plugin and follow this - >  http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:08] <gdea73> whoa weird
[23:08] <gdea73> aww I don't want to do it manually, Quantum_Ion... lol
[23:08] <gdea73> it should work fine installed by a package I just can't find the plugin file.
[23:08] <gdea73> actually the JRE works fine, I just need the plugin.
[23:09] <gdea73> java -version recognizes Sun Java the way I did it (installing from the ppa ppa:sun-java-community-team/sun-java)
[23:10] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, This is ->  ‘sun-java-6′ package is garbage follow this - > http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:10] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_ :  Pressing SHIFT didn't work.  How do I reinstall grub?
[23:10] <CFHowlett_> !grub2|cache_money
[23:10] <gdea73> except Quantum_Ion, I only want Java 6, and the JRE alone for now
[23:11] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, that file is usually found in - >  /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[23:11] <nyRednek> Quantum_Ion: seriously, you're starting to sound like a spambot
[23:11] <nyRednek> Quantum_Ion: give it a rest
[23:11] <Quantum_Ion> or  /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[23:11] <gdea73> well locate libnpjp2.so brought up nothing, but I'll check
[23:11] <nyRednek> gdea73: it's under /usr/java
[23:11] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: well that assumes I installed Java 7, and manualy at that
[23:11] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, find  / -name libnpjp2.so ?
[23:11] <gdea73> I installed Java 6 via apt-get. I just can't find the plugin.
[23:11] <gdea73> oh ok 1s
[23:12] <gdea73> a lot of permission denied errors...
[23:12] <gdea73> and no results, afaik
[23:12] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  Because I'm having so much trouble trying to dual boot, what do you think of the idea of just installing Ubunut on my computer and runnings Windows 7 in a VirtualBox on the few instances that I need it..
[23:12] <gdea73> Never mind, got it, thanks Quantum_Ion.
[23:12] <nyRednek> gdea73: yeah, find isn't the ideal way to get to your file
[23:13] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   so long as you uderstand the VBox option will run slower than a native installation, I think it's a reasonable compromise
[23:13] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, run the command as root ?
[23:13] <qhartman> Cache_Money, as long as whatever you are doing in Windows can tolerate the performance hit of running in a VM, it's a great way to go. It's what I do most of the time.
[23:13] <gdea73> I got it to work now, Quantum_Ion
[23:13] <nyRednek> Cache_Money: personally, i prefer XP for those few instances
[23:13] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   IOW, we won't hate you :)
[23:13] <gdea73> only problem is the version I installed was update 21, but I don't realy care
[23:13] <gdea73> * really. -_-
[23:13] <Quantum_Ion> I need to smoke some spinach
[23:14] <gdea73> lol, you know it
[23:14] <gdea73> ... I mean, ... just lol.
[23:14] <gdea73> well, I have work to do... bye all
[23:15] <chime> me he instalado hace unos dias un sistema operativo basado en ubuntu llamado pinguy os, totalmente basado en ubuntu como si del mismo ubuntu trataramos, pero el problema es que el fondo de pantalla se me cambia automaticamente sin yo haber elegido esa opcion y no se como puedo ponerlo para que no se cambie automaticamente , solamente quiero que se quede mi fondo de pantalla actual
 alguien me puede ayudar¿?
 ademas de ello, de que se cambia automaticamente, tambien se ponen unas imagenes que se descargan automaticamente al ordenador
 cada 5 minutos tengo una imagen nueva en mi ordenador y automaticamente de fondo de escritorio
[23:15] <FloodBot1> chime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <CFHowlett_> !es|chime
[23:15] <Quantum_Ion> chime, Entonces mannana sin falta
[23:16] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_ : with that in mind, is there any way to UN-partition my hard drive?
[23:16] <Kotus> Cache_Money, testdisk
[23:17] <EsaSt> 0.0
[23:17] <Zaitzev> hm
[23:17] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   you mean return the partition to windows availability?  I would think you could boot the live CD, and use gparted to resize the windows partition...
[23:18] <Zaitzev> wow, LXDE is seriously ugly ><
[23:18] <CFHowlett_> *this WILL cause windows to hiccup*
[23:18] <mneptok> Zaitzev: you have used this channel enough to know that such a comment is offtopic.
[23:18] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, How about Partition Magic it is so easy to destroy partitions on a hardisk
[23:19] <Zaitzev> mneptok: It's related to what I've been struggling with for a couple of hours, been talking with dlentz for a while too.
[23:19] <CFHowlett_> Quantum_Ion   never used = no opinion...
[23:19] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_: I have 1 TB HD, but it's currently partitioned into 2 500GB partitions.  If I solely run Ubuntu, how do I get it back to 1 HD?  Should I even attempt to?
[23:19] <mneptok> Zaitzev: sorry about that. but only the stuff in your life that is relevant to Ubuntu support questions and answers belongs on this channel.
[23:19] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, You can even use Ubuntu Live disk to destroy your windows partition
[23:20] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, Read this - > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToRemoveWindows
[23:20] <Zaitzev> mneptok: which it is. I don't know if you were around an hour ago or so, when I was talking about the weird issues I suddenly got.
[23:21] <mneptok> Zaitzev: "this is ugly" is not a question or answer. and you may find more LXDE help in #lubuntu
[23:21] <Zaitzev> I was stating an opinion. Guess that's a big no-no here..
[23:22] <mneptok> Zaitzev: it's irrelevant to any meaningful support discussion in a channel with 1500 members.
[23:22] <nyRednek> here's one, why not make a fvwm-crystal spin? fubuntu FTW
[23:22] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   I tend to think long-term; in the long term, *my needs* are better served by a dual boot.  Currently, win7 is balking.  The windows hiccup has caused grub to also hiccup meaning I have to terminal boot grub each time.  This adds 15 seconds to boot.  Eventually, I'll get it back to normal.  BUT I have the patience to do this on *my* machine.  At work?  Production environment?  I...
[23:22] <CFHowlett_> ...might need a solution that *just works*.  What is right for you?
[23:23] <josvuk> How to switch in singel user mode? I don't use grub
[23:23] <Kotus> josvuk, init 1
[23:24] <nyRednek> Kotus: does that actually still work?
[23:24] <Kotus> i don't know
[23:24] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_ : How do you terminal boot grub?  I wouldn't mind do something extra, it's just currently I can only boot into Ubuntu (before I could only boot into Windows)
[23:24] <josvuk> does init 1 stops Xorg?
[23:24] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   pm?
[23:24] <AgamemnonZ> Hi all! I tried to figure this out myself, but will 11.10 update LibreOffice to 3.5 or stay with 3.4?
[23:24] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, You can try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:25] <raido> josvuk: ya, single user is tty only
[23:25] <nyRednek> Kotus: i thought upstart(or whatever replaced it) screwed up the sysV runlevels
[23:26] <josvuk> is the network conection also  stoped?
[23:26] <raido> josvuk: yep
[23:26] <Kotus> mm
[23:26] <nyRednek> josvuk: if you're in single user, network is down
[23:26] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_  Sure
[23:27] <bfrederi> Hey, I'm using mint-ubuntu, and I'm not sure if openconnect works the same in it, but it supposedly gets installed into the network manager. The problem is, when configure the vpn connection, I can't figure out where to enter vpn secrets.
[23:27] <josvuk> can I activatte the network agin in singel user mode? so does pon dsl-provider works ?
[23:28] <bazhang> bfrederi, then go to mintsupport
[23:28] <nyRednek> josvuk: you'll have to bring up your tcp/ip before using pon
[23:28] <bfrederi> I know there is another channel for mint-ubuntu, but there just isn't anyone active in there, and I thought I'd give this a shot.
[23:28] <bazhang> !mintsupport | bfrederi
[23:28] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   see the pm I sent
[23:29] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   > Cache_Money if you can boot to the grub: prompt, you can probably get boot grub with the right commands. In my case, it's configfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/grub.cgf
[23:29] <CFHowlett_> 	*grub.cfg*
[23:29] <CFHowlett_> 	I found this by careful reading of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:29] <bfrederi> bazhang: right. I was just hoping that openconnect worked the same in Ubuntu.
[23:29] <chalist> hi all. i can download torrent file on windows with 10MB in p/s but in linux just 1MB with Deluge or vuze. why? anybody can help me? thanks a lot
[23:29] <jeagle> quick question, how do I install ghostscript with gsfonts? :)
[23:29] <bazhang> chalist, what about transmission
[23:30] <jeagle> apt-get install -y ghostscript gsfonts?
[23:30] <meganerd> chalist: do you have all the required ports forwarded?
[23:30] <ripper_> http://nopaste.info/3095eca611.html can anyone help with this?
[23:30] <AgamemnonZ> Anyone got a clue on this question? Will 11.10 update LibreOffice to 3.5 or stay with 3.4? If going to 3.5, how can I see when this will approximately happen?
[23:30] <chalist> bazhang: wait please to test. 1 minit
[23:34] <chalist> bazhang: transmission is like other clients too
[23:35] <bazhang> chalist, lower the upspeed to 100k
[23:36] <ghostconn> has anyone found a way to make audacious have a feel like itunes or winamp? I absolutly love audacious however I hate how I cant browse albums and they dont show cover art
[23:36] <chalist> bazhang, up speed is 1kb :D but not changed anything
[23:37] <ghostconn> ?
[23:37] <NewWorld> ghostconn:  audacious is meant to be simplistic and light. They've just only added a library feature. It CAN look like XMMS though :) Maybe another player is better suited for you
[23:38] <Quantum_Ion> NewWorld, I miss xmms it was light and clean
[23:39] <NewWorld> Quantum_Ion:  I've switched from XMMS to Audacious - you can even make it look like XMMS
[23:39] <ghostconn> can you reccomend a better music player. I absolutely LOVE WINAMP however I hate WINDOWS lol... I have tried banshee,rhythmbox,audacious and amarok I cant stand either of them... I like audacious however Im lacking the search ability and album cover art
[23:40] <ghostconn> any suggestions much appreciated thanks to all :)
[23:40] <Quantum_Ion> NewWorld, I used VLC and Totem to listen to mp3's
[23:41] <NewWorld> Quantum_Ion:  hahaha terrible choices for music imo!
[23:42] <ghostconn> totem is even worse then what I have mentioned
[23:43] <ghostconn> someone has to know of a good winamp/itunes like media player... I just want to serach my albums and view cover art.... cover flow would be amazing !!! :p
[23:52] <gr33n7007h> qmmp
[23:53] <dabaR> Is there something needed to turn on ssh agent forwarding?
[23:58] <ghostshadow_> ciao
[23:58] <ghostshadow_> !list