[00:57] <diskinetic> I'm running a live USB  thumb drive (16gb), and I have no other drive on the system.  Can I use a secomd 16gb drive as "home"?
[00:58] <diskinetic> or more accurately "/home"
[02:42] <treborabc> kill. kill
[03:03] <jmcantrell> is xubuntu precise pretty usable?
[03:32] <yuppers> anyone have experience installing xubuntu from a usb?
[03:33] <babble> yuppers: I do ...
[03:33] <babble> having trouble getting a bootable image?
[03:34] <yuppers> I'm install from a windows machine, curious what people used to mount the ISO to a usb?
[03:34] <babble> yuppers: PenDriveLinux makes a utility similar to the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator
[03:34] <babble> sec, I'll get you the URL
[03:35] <yuppers> cool beans that rocks thanks
[03:35] <babble> here you go: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[03:35] <babble> It'll write your downloaded Xubuntu image to a USB thumb drive, then just choose that as your boot drive at your PC's BIOS screen
[03:36] <babble> (the before-you-see-windows black screen -- you'll need to hit ESC or a function key typically, to get at boot options)
[03:36] <yuppers> ya ive done usb installs before just never mounted know what to use to mount the iso
[03:37] <babble> ah, cool, you're good then :)
[03:37] <babble> I *think* there are Windows builds of Unetbootin, too.
[03:37] <babble> but don't quote me on that
[03:37] <babble> anyway, they all more-or-less write an .iso to a USB stick and set it up as a boot-happy drive
[03:37] <yuppers> thats all i needed thanks. So xubuntu much faster then ubuntu (im rocking a netbook thus the usb dealio)
[03:38] <babble> Well, I don't use netbook-class hardware, but Xubuntu is faster on my hardware, sure.
[03:39] <yuppers> how much faster would you say in your opinion?
[03:39] <babble> Xfce isn't necessarily the *lightest* desktop you could go with in terms of RAM once booted, or overall resource usage (I think that still ends up being LXDE) but I think Xfce strikes the right balance between being lighter-weight than KDE or Gnome and being nicely useable.
[03:40] <babble> Oh, it's purely subjective, but I'm on a lower-end, but current laptop
[03:40] <babble> Unity bogs on my GPU - not awfully, but enough to notice.
[03:40] <babble> (for that matter, so does Gnome shell)
[03:40] <babble> Xfce stays nicely snappy :)
[03:41] <yuppers> ya I already tried regular ubuntu and its slow as snails so im trying xubuntu then lubuntu
[03:42] <babble> For *me* (your mileage may vary) Xfce gives me enough of what I want that I can live without the small things it lacks (I like conceptually some of the things the Unity folks are doing, and I'll probably switch back to Unity at *some* point)
[03:42] <babble> if you want the lightest-fastest-meanest desktop for lower end hardware, I think Lubuntu is probably your best bet
[03:44] <babble> (but I'm *very* happy in Xubuntu, so by all means, give it a try. hehe.)
[03:44] <yuppers> ya liek i said i'll be trying that if this doesnt work out. Reality is im just rocking the nbook for a mobile coding machine so im sure all three will work fine for me just omes down to how picky im gonna be about the speed lol
[03:44] <babble> haha. :)
[03:45] <yuppers> as is the case usually though ha
[03:45] <babble> if all you need is a dev environment, I think Xubuntu or Lubunti will probably work about equally well for you
[03:45] <babble> *Lubuntu (bah, typos.)
[03:51] <yuppers> well i guess since im here i should ask, any chance that xub has c++ compiler built in?
[03:52] <babble> of course ;)
[03:52] <babble> gcc is ... sec. lemme see what's in mine ;)
[03:52] <yuppers> i assumed but alwasy worth checking while iso is downloading ha
[03:53] <babble> hehe.
[03:53] <babble> gcc in my installation of 11.10 is 4:4.6.1-2ubuntu5 -- let me find out what that tracks to in terms of gcc releases.
[03:54] <babble> cool - that's gcc 4.6
[03:54] <babble> do you need an IDE?
[03:55] <yuppers> that would be ultimate to have from the start but not a necessity, what you got for IDE?
[03:55] <babble> Just about anything short of absolute clones of .Net or Xcode, really
[03:55] <babble> Eclipse is popular
[03:57] <babble> for folks writing gtk apps, Glade is roughly comparable to Interface Builder in OS X or whatever-is-roughly-equivalent in Windows. hehe.
[03:57] <babble> and I'm sure there are Qt equivalents I'm not aware of.
[03:59] <yuppers> eclipse eh, kk cool il giver a go thanks
[04:06] <bemis> can anyone tell me in 11.11 which package xlock4 was in? (my "lock screen" functionality seems to have gone away in the 12.04 beta)
[04:06] <holstein> bemis: 11.10?
[04:06] <bemis> holstein: yeah - typo
[04:07] <bemis> -shrug- or 11.04 .. or whenever ..
[04:07] <babble> it's in xfce4-utils
[04:08] <bemis> babble: thnx - i guess it was removed in 12.04
[04:08] <holstein> xlockmore mabye then
[04:08] <babble> hmm. that would be unusual :)
[04:08] <babble> let me go see what's on Launchpad.
[04:10] <holstein> i use xtrlock
[04:11] <bemis> i'm not sure how much of my strangeness is due to having installed a stock-ish ubuntu back in like 9.04 or something and i've over time upgraded and added lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu-desktop packages
[04:11] <bemis> for mucking with the beta i really should have clean-wiped - but i was bored on a friday night
[04:12] <babble> xflock should still be in the Precise build - here's the launchpad page for the utils package...
[04:12] <babble> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/xfce4-utils/4.8.3-1ubuntu2
[04:13] <babble> and it's in the .deb I just grabbed;
[04:14] <bemis> babble: yep - that's the one - for some reason previous to 12.04 it was xlock4, not xflock4 -- just didn't know what to look for - thanks!
[04:14] <bemis> (at least my keybindings are all pointed at xlock4 - maybe they were mangled)
[04:15] <babble> um. It's xflock in 11.10 :)
[04:15] <babble> but as long as it's where you can find it. hehe.
[04:15] <bemis> :) thank you.
[05:21] <ax562> can someone please help
[05:22] <ax562> i'm running xubuntu on my droid bionic via webtop2sd
[05:23] <ax562> today my xfce menu button dissapeared
[05:23] <ax562> and when I try to add it by right clicking it doesn't work
[05:24] <well_laid_lawn> what happens when you right click the panel?
[05:24] <well_laid_lawn> and what's a  droid bionic via webtop2sd
[05:24] <ax562> it gives me the option to add the button "add item"
[05:24] <ax562> sorry "add new item"
[05:24] <well_laid_lawn> and then what happens?
[05:25] <ax562> the xfce menu button is an option but when I try to add it, it does nothing
[05:25] <well_laid_lawn> can you add anything else?
[05:25] <ax562> webtop2sd is a way to run ubuntu 10.10 on a partioned sd card
[05:26] <well_laid_lawn> k
[05:26] <ax562> can you help?
[05:27] <well_laid_lawn> can you add anything else?
[05:27] <ax562> I googled it and was trying to delete my session file but couldn't find them
[05:27] <well_laid_lawn> best if you log out before you do that
[05:28] <well_laid_lawn> it's in ~/.cache iirc
[05:28] <ax562> I was able to add a mixer button and that worked
[05:29] <well_laid_lawn> be easier to move .config/xfce4 after killing the panel then restart the panel to get defaults
[05:30] <ax562> how would I do that?
[05:30] <ax562> I cant even find the .config direct
[05:30] <well_laid_lawn> pkill xfce4-panel && mv -v .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4.bak && xfce4-panel &
[05:31] <well_laid_lawn> you'll have to enable showing hidden files in thunar if you want to do it from the gui
[05:31] <well_laid_lawn> !panel
[05:33] <ax562> tried to use pkill
[05:33] <ax562> but said missing destination file
[05:33] <well_laid_lawn> pkill on it's own?
[05:35] <ax562> is there a space between xfce4 and .config?
[05:35] <ax562> you had 2 lines
[05:35] <ax562> wait
[05:35] <ax562> my panel is gone
[05:36] <ax562> i ran xfce4-panel and the panel reloaded but still missing menu button
[05:37] <well_laid_lawn> when you kill it it saves the current config - that's why I suggested moving the config before starting it
[05:38] <ax562> sorry my fault
[05:38] <ax562> let me try again
[05:38] <well_laid_lawn> that's ok :)
[05:39] <ax562> what was the command again...i cant scroll up
[05:39] <ax562> sorry...total nub to ubuntu and irc
[05:39] <well_laid_lawn> pkill xfce4-panel && mv -v .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4.bak && xfce4-panel &
[05:39] <ax562> no space between the two lines though right?
[05:39] <well_laid_lawn> the && means do the next bit after the first succeeds
[05:40] <well_laid_lawn> only one line - make you chat client wider and it'll be one line for you too
[05:40] <well_laid_lawn> s/you/your
[05:40] <well_laid_lawn>  /
[05:40] <ax562> killed panel
[05:41] <ax562> but second command gives error
[05:41] <ax562> mv: missing destination file operand after `.config/xfce4'
[05:41] <ax562> mv: missing destination file operand after `.config/xfce4'Try `mv --help' for more information.
[05:42] <well_laid_lawn> you can copy/paste by dragging the mouse over text and clicking the scroll wheel in a terminal
[05:43] <well_laid_lawn> by holding the left mouse button down and dragging over text*
[05:45] <ax562> did
[05:45] <ax562> but it gave me those error
[05:46] <well_laid_lawn> mv needs two parameters - what to move and where to move it to - mv -v .config/xfce4 .config/xfce4.bak
[05:46] <ax562> alex mendizabal
[05:47] <ax562> sorry friend stoped by
[05:48] <ax562> got that erro
[05:48] <ax562> anyway to do it in gui?
[05:49] <well_laid_lawn> right click the .config/xfce4 folder in thunar and rename it to something else - after the panel has been stopped
[05:51] <ax562> where would i find .confic
[05:51] <ax562> I endabled hidden files
[05:54] <ax562> found it in home
[05:55] <ax562> ok i renamed .config/xfce4 to xfce4-bak
[05:56] <well_laid_lawn> is the panel running?
[05:57] <ax562> no should I run it?
[05:57] <ax562> ok i renamed .config/xfce4 to xfce4-bak
[05:57] <well_laid_lawn> if not you should be able to run it and get the default back
[05:57] <well_laid_lawn> xfce4-panel &
[05:57] <well_laid_lawn> in a terminal   or
[05:57] <well_laid_lawn> !panel
[05:58] <well_laid_lawn> !bot
[05:58] <ax562> there it's back
[05:58] <well_laid_lawn> with the menu?
[05:58] <ax562> i ran the xfce4-panel and now my menu button is back
[05:59] <ax562> YES!!
[05:59] <ax562> YOU ARE THE MAN!!
[05:59] <well_laid_lawn> make sure to save the session before logging out
[05:59] <ax562> how would I do that?
[06:00] <ax562> I clicked the user icon on the right hand corner and it says exit panel?
[06:00] <ax562> it usually would say log out, restart etc.
[06:01] <well_laid_lawn> dunno why it would do that
[06:02] <ax562> how can I save session?
[06:03] <well_laid_lawn> you can do it from the settings manager
[06:04] <ax562> where can I find that?
[06:05] <well_laid_lawn> first entry in the menu
[06:05] <ax562> it's gone again
[06:06] <ax562> i right clicked the button and hit properties
[06:06] <well_laid_lawn> if you started the panel from the terminal it should show some errors there
[06:06] <ax562> now it's gone again
[06:07] <ax562> Gtk:ERROR:/br11/gtk/gtk+2.0-2.22.0/gtk/gtkfilechooserdefault.c:1390:shortcuts_find_folder: assertion failed: (folder != NULL)
[06:07] <ax562> libxfce4panel-Message: Xfce Menu: screen changed: 0
[06:07] <ax562> libxfce4panel-Message: No valid plug window.
[06:07] <ax562> (xfce4-panel:5819): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_socket_get_id: assertion `GTK_WIDGET_ANCHORED (socket)' failed
[06:07] <ax562> (xfce4-panel:5819): libxfce4panel-CRITICAL **: An item was unexpectedly removed: "Xfce Menu".
[06:08] <ax562> that is what the error said
[06:08] <well_laid_lawn> be best if you take that error to #xfce - I dunno about it
[06:08] <well_laid_lawn> do   /j #xfce
[06:09] <well_laid_lawn> and tell them the menu keeps disappearing
[06:09] <ax562> ok
[06:09] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[06:10] <ax562> how can I kill the panel again?
[06:11] <well_laid_lawn> pkill xfce4-panel
[06:11] <well_laid_lawn> or try the user button in the right corner
[06:11] <well_laid_lawn> since that said before exit panel
[06:12] <Mawg> oops, bear with me guys I'm fiddling with znc
[06:12] <Mawg> bare*
[06:13] <chelz> bear is correct
[06:14] <well_laid_lawn> bare is like naked
[06:14] <ax562> lol
[06:14] <well_laid_lawn> ;-)
[06:15] <ax562> thanks alot well laid lawn
[06:15] <well_laid_lawn> cheers'
[06:15] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[06:15] <ax562> i'm going to go to /j xfce
[06:15] <well_laid_lawn> wel+<tab> = well_laid_lawn
[06:15] <Mog3> Oh damn, and I even watched a whole video rant of some guy explaining the two
[06:15] <Mog3> Guess none of it sunk it lol
[06:16] <Mog3> in*
[06:17] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[07:42] <chris_> hi. i have a wireless card in a laptop. installed the windows driver and the "Windows Wireless Drivers" app shows the driver and says the hardware is attached. /etc/modules.conf shows an aliad for wlan0 to ndiswrapper, but iwconfig shows no wlan0
[07:42] <chris_> *alias
[07:43] <chris_> any ideas on how to get wlan0 up and running?
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> try   ifconfig -a
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> does wlan show?
[07:45] <chris_> no, just eth0 and the loopback
[07:45] <Sysi> might be better to try networkmanager
[09:46] <lain974> bonjour all
[10:38] <xubuntu411> ыыыы
[13:37] <GridCube> im trying to do an >export http_proxy=http://proxy:port/<   but its not working :/
[13:41] <GridCube> mmm im going to try rebooting and see what happens
[13:46] <Sysi> GridCube: I think you shouldn't use slash after port
[13:48] <notify> any sign of startup notifications being fixed, or even discussed, for xubuntu 12.04 ? got the beta, fully updated it, still no busy cursor. and virtually no discussion of this anywhere ...
[13:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 notify
[13:49] <notify> bazhang: thx
[14:07] <GridCube> so :(
[14:07] <GridCube> i cant make it work
[14:07] <GridCube> without the proxy i cant zsync
[16:17] <xubuntu839> help me please
[16:17] <xubuntu839> is it possible to install ubuntu one on xubuntu ?
[16:19] <xubuntu839> what can i do about tearing ? i dont have tearing if i install compiz but when i use compiz windows are leaving traces while resized
[16:19] <xubuntu839> is it possible to install ubuntu one on xubuntu ?
[16:20] <xubuntu839> do you see my text ?
[16:22] <xubuntu839> anybody here ?
[16:22] <TheSheep> nope, nobody
[16:22] <TheSheep> just us, mice
[16:22] <holstein> xubuntu839: hey... lets takt it one at a time
[16:22] <TheSheep> !hi | xubuntu839
[16:23] <holstein> you can install ubuntu one in xubuntu... but you dont need to install ubuntu one to use it anyways... just like dropbox
[16:23] <holstein> i would not suggest compiz with XFCE.. i dont think its helpful personally
[16:23] <xubuntu839> do i need to install gnome ?
[16:24] <holstein> that being said, feel free and reference http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[16:24] <holstein> xubuntu839: you only need to decide what you want/need, and go from there.. if you need compiz, make it happen
[16:25] <holstein> for ubuntuone http://askubuntu.com/questions/82978/how-can-i-run-ubuntu-one-on-xubuntu xubuntu839
[16:28] <digitalcrow> can i install ubuntu one on xubuntu ?
[16:28] <holstein> digitalcrow: check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/82978/how-can-i-run-ubuntu-one-on-xubuntu
[16:28] <holstein> and for compiz.. http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[16:29] <digitalcrow> i have tearing
[16:31] <digitalcrow> i have big tearing
[16:32] <babble> every time I think I need compiz I install it for all of two days.
[16:32] <babble> then it's back to xfwm
[16:32] <digitalcrow> i have a geforce gts 250 and i have tearing .... come on
[16:33] <digitalcrow> ...this is sick
[16:33] <digitalcrow> my graphics card has a cpu of 1.8 ghz
[16:35] <digitalcrow> can you help me do something about tearing ?
[16:39] <digitalcrow> why i always have tearing on xubuntu ?
[16:40] <digitalcrow> why i always have tearing on xubuntu ?
[16:40] <TheSheep> !patience
[16:46] <digitalcrow> why i have tearing on xubuntu ?
[16:49] <holstein> digitalcrow: i would try a different graphics driver
[16:50] <holstein> you can also try some other compositing
[16:50] <digitalcrow> graphics driver is fine
[16:50] <holstein> typically, when im troubleshooting issues like that, i'll just try a bunch of live CD's..
[16:50] <holstein> digitalcrow: i would expect the driver to be one of the things that could cause the "tearing"
[16:51] <holstein> digitalcrow: are you saying you have tried other drivers? you have tried the vesa driver?
[16:51] <digitalcrow> if i try the post release new driver that xubuntu shows ?
[16:51] <digitalcrow> do you think it would work ?
[16:51] <holstein> digitalcrow: are you being offered a proprietary driver by a GUI? is that what you are refering to digitalcrow ?
[16:52] <digitalcrow> from additional drivers i have the recommented installed but it shows me a newer one too
[16:52] <digitalcrow> (updates after release)
[16:52] <digitalcrow> maybe i should try my luck with it?
[16:53] <holstein> digitalcrow: i dont know what is going to work.. i can only offer suggestions.. i would try different graphics drivers.. i would try different live CD's... i would try differnt kernel versions
[16:57] <digitalcrow> i have no tearing when i use compiz but i dont have good decorator and when i move or resize the windows they leave traces and stuff
[16:58] <holstein> digitalcrow: you can try other compositing... you can try other drivers. you can try other DE's.. you can try other kernels
[16:59] <digitalcrow> tell me how to install a window decorator
[16:59] <holstein> you can only troubleshoot, and see what will support your graphics hardware best... or search around for some help with someone with that hardware
[16:59] <digitalcrow> on compiz works fine but the decorator sucks it doesnt work well
[17:00] <holstein> digitalcrow: i use emerald as referenced from that link i gave you earlier http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[17:01] <holstein> though its not in the repos for 11.10... i searched and found a .deb and installed it
[17:01] <holstein> i also decided, as i stated before, that compiz with XFCE is not all that great, or necessary
[17:09] <digitalcrow> im trying the gtk decorator
[17:09] <holstein> try what you like.. i can only speak for the one i suggested that i have actually tried
[17:09] <holstein> shouldnt matter, or effect the tearing you are dealing with
[17:10] <digitalcrow> looks nice now
[17:10] <digitalcrow> no tearing
[17:11] <digitalcrow> how i can disable the guest login
[17:12] <digitalcrow> that was easy
[17:13] <digitalcrow> yes
[17:13] <digitalcrow> i can say i fixed my problems
[17:13] <digitalcrow> so i can add some repos and software now
[17:13] <digitalcrow> thank you for your help
[21:02] <beata|testing> Ye gods but this thing is *tiny* ... reinstalled xubuntu/oneiric, new user account, checking the settings. Mouse cursor appears to be the user setting over only some of the display, &c ${settings}, &c. Question: Am I better to upgrade to Precise/beta and then check for what isn't working out of the box and forget about Oneiric?
[21:07] <miarf> is there a key that shows the "File Edit View" etc menu in xfce?
[21:08] <miarf> i disabled the menu bar in my terminal accidentally, and can't restore it in a handy manner
[21:08] <TheSheep> miarf: no, it is shown automatically in every window that has it
[21:08] <miarf> okay, so apparently I need to close the window and reopen it to get it back
[21:12] <TheSheep> that's strange
[21:12] <knome> miarf, you can get the menu back by clicking right mouse button and choosing "show menubar"
[21:13] <miarf> oh right, you rightclick the window contents instead of window titlebar, thanks
[21:15] <knome> np
[22:00] <GreenJello> Hey, I'm using xubuntu 11.10, and when I open a terminal most things are in black and white.  How do I make it use more colors?  I'm used to Linux Mint in GNOME Terminal where the foo@bar ~/ $ part is in colors.  Do I need a different emulator?  Or to change a bash setting?
[22:00] <GreenJello> oh and I miss a lot of the auto completion features
[22:01] <GreenJello> like apt-get autocomplete for package names
[22:01] <GreenJello> and git, and a few other programs.  I'm not sure what that feature's called, so I don't know how to even search for it.
[22:02] <pleia2> GreenJello: I'm not sure what terminal emulator you used to use, but all the prompt colors can be adjusted by editing your .bashrc file
[22:03] <pleia2> GreenJello: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt has some examples
[22:04] <pleia2> as for autocomplete, it sounds like either it wasn't using bash (maybe zsh?) or were using some bash extension/plugin
[22:04] <GreenJello> thanks
[22:04] <GreenJello> it came pre-installed with Linux Mint
[22:04] <GreenJello> and I remember it on Ubuntu 10.10
[22:44] <mucus> hi
[22:44] <mucus> i need help
[22:44] <mucus> i have xubuntu dualbooting with windows 7 on my laptop
[22:44] <mucus> i got a virus in windows 7
[22:44] <mucus> how can i clean that up from here in xubu?
[22:48] <GreenJello> mucus: That's really vague... I'd just backup your files (selectively) and reinstall
[22:48] <mucus> yeah, that is the best idea isn't it?
[22:49] <mucus> i was just gonna back up important documents and hose down the system with a good ol format
[22:49] <GreenJello> yeah, that or antivirus software in Windows
[22:49] <mucus> would love to do the latter
[22:49] <mucus> but my virus is shutting me out of ALL programs!
[22:49] <mucus> yay!
[22:49] <GreenJello> Boot into safe mode
[22:50] <mucus> right then, i'll try that bbl
[22:50] <GreenJello> ok, have a plan first though!
[22:51] <Marzata> the best AV for Win7 is Linux
[22:51] <mucusBONES> Hi again
[22:53] <mucus> Thank goodness safe mode works
[23:00] <well_laid_lawn> you can do antivirus checks from linux, dunno how good they are tho
[23:01] <well_laid_lawn> !antivirus
[23:01] <Marzata> well_laid_lawn: Linux is a very good AV
[23:01] <mucus> I have virus in my windows machine
[23:01] <Marzata> mucus: delete it
[23:02] <mucus> Windows?
[23:02] <mucus> Or virus?
[23:02] <mucus> Because I dunno where the virii are
[23:02] <knome> please people, this is not a windows support channel. try ##windows for that
[23:03] <mucus> But I wanted to use xubuntu to clean it
[23:03] <Marzata> delete Win7, it is the worst virus.
[23:04] <pleia2> well_laid_lawn: the antivirus checks you'll find for linux are designed for things like scanning email for viruses before sending it out the mail clients (some of which presumably run windows), not for scanning a windows system
[23:04] <knome> we can give you help on accessing the harddrives, other than that, it's a windows issue
[23:04] <pleia2> Marzata: there's not need for that, some people need Windows for work, school, etc, telling them to delete it is not helpful
[23:04] <BlakJak> http://maketecheasier.com/remove-windows-viruses-with-linux/2010/02/02
[23:04] <knome> Marzata, can i PM you?
[23:04] <mucus> Ofc I wouldn't delete windows its a proper *ahem* useful os
[23:04] <Marzata> eh, sorry then
[23:04] <well_laid_lawn> pleia2: I said I dunno how good they are but if you look at what ubottu offered it seems there is something to check shared files
[23:05] <pleia2> well_laid_lawn: yeah, just offering my input from experience
[23:05] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[23:06] <BlakJak> mucus: plenty of hits inside Google for solutions that'd let you clean viruses off a Windows machine with Linux.
[23:06] <BlakJak> dare I ask whether you've tried any of them?
[23:06] <mucus> I am working on one now actually
[23:06] <mucus> The simplest
[23:07] <BlakJak> however, 'you takes your chances' with regards to whether Windows will work properly afterward
[23:07] <BlakJak> depends on the virus and what it does.
[23:07] <pleia2> BlakJak: we've only used ClamAV and AVG for customers, in both instances free cleaners they found in Windows native worked better and found more problems
[23:09] <BlakJak> Yeah, in my experience you're best to identify exactly what infection you have and follow the best cleaning process for that particular infection. I havn't had a true virus in years but have found that manually removing Trojans gives more peace of mind than trusting apps to do it for me.
[23:09] <BlakJak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789557 has useful discussion also
[23:10] <BlakJak> the first post on page 2 resonates strongly with me.