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* justinlw not attending, on ARM tech review meeting16:01
DavieyOh, it's me!16:05
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Daviey#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:05
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Davieyarosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development16:05
hallynthink i saw that done16:05
arosalesI think I saw that was added,16:06
Davieynothing else?16:06
Daviey#topic Precise Development16:06
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DavieySo... 2 days until Beta 2 Freeze16:06
Davieylets go through the bugs:16:06
Daviey#link http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html16:07
Davieybug 88398816:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88398816:07
Davieyadam_g: ^^ ?16:07
arosaleshallyn: thank you for adding the release /blueprint subtopicks (I was diff'ing to see where that came in)16:08
hallynarosales: i didn't :)  accident of wiki misbehavior16:08
Davieybug 850443: considering deferring16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 850443 in python-eventlet (Ubuntu) "Nova API does not listen on IPv6" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85044316:08
Davieysmoser: is bug 928990 you?16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92899016:08
smoserwell, unless someone else wantsn to look at it.16:09
smoserit would be good to get in, but its been that way for ever.16:09
* utlemming can't attend due to a phone conflict with16:10
utlemminga vendor16:10
Davieyutlemming: ok, can you comment if bug 893926 is progressing?16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89392616:10
SpamapSlol, I've no excuse. Just forgot now that it is so much more convenient. ;)16:10
DavieySpamapS: bug 930916 :)16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930916 in amavisd-new (Ubuntu) "amavis start-stop script fails to stop amavisd" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93091616:10
utlemmingI've done the initial scoping, hoping to have something this week16:10
SpamapSDaviey: its a simple fix, just haven't prioritized it yet.16:10
Davieyadam_g: bug 95636616:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 956366 in nova (Ubuntu) "self-referential security groups can not be deleted" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95636616:11
Davieyutlemming: thanks16:11
Davieyroaksoax: Are you likely going to have capacity to work on bug 880339 this week?16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88033916:11
roaksoaxDaviey: no TBH16:11
DavieyI suspect it's a "no"..16:11
DavieySpamapS: Can you take that?16:11
Davieyzul: bug 907197 ?16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90719716:12
zulwas not able to reproduce and no feedback from bug reporter16:12
Davieyjjohansen: Hey, how is bug 925024 progressing?16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 925024 in linux (Ubuntu) "apparmor makes it impossible to install postgresql-common on Precise" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92502416:12
Davieyzul: Make it incomplete ?16:12
SpamapSDaviey: the apparmor bug has been fixed for a long time.. I think16:13
DavieySpamapS: ah cool, can you update the bug with what you know?16:13
Davieyzul: bug 95469216:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 954692 in nova (Ubuntu) "cannot detach volume from terminated instance" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95469216:13
SpamapSDaviey: I did.. the reporter has not responded.16:13
jjohansenDaviey: err that one should be fixed16:13
DavieySpamapS: hah16:13
Davieyjjohansen: oh great!  Can you update the bug task? :)16:13
Davieyzul: tracking, bug 901881?16:14
zulDaviey: fix was uploaded this morning16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova and glance should depend on python-keystone" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90188116:14
jjohansenDaviey: yep, sorry16:14
zulDaviey: yep16:14
Davieyzul: bug 959610 ?16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 959610 in Keystone "keystone is not logging" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95961016:14
Davieyjjohansen: Thanks!16:14
zulfix has been proposed16:14
DavieySoo... We are tracking a bunch of MIR's.. but firstly.. is there anything not being tracked which are purely b1 critical ?16:15
DavieyAs in a release blocker for B1 only.. ie, needs fixing this week16:15
Davieyerr, yeah16:15
DavieySpamapS: I'd like to jump in a time machine :)16:16
hallynwell the lxc apparmor stuff is close to that...16:16
SpamapSIf juju's support for subordinates lands this week, on time, I'll be filing a fairly late FFE for B2 for all the new stuff in juju.16:16
Davieyhallyn: how is it progressing?16:17
hallynDaviey: it's sort of whack-a-mole right now.16:17
DavieySpamapS: Are you tracking it's development and testing closely ?16:17
hallynso i don't know if we're one step away, or not16:17
DavieySpamapS: does it change charm format at all?16:17
Davieyhallyn: :(16:17
hallynbut, i guess it can go in after next freeze if need be16:17
Davieyhallyn: can you keep me posted on trajectory ?16:18
SpamapSDaviey: no, but a bootstrapped env from the current one will fail to launch once the distro is updated because of the changes which allow you to reboot machines.16:18
hallynDaviey: ok16:18
Davieysmoser: Do you know if the cloud locale image issue was resolved now?16:18
DavieySpamapS: ok16:18
smosernot resolved.16:18
smoserits working as expected.16:18
SpamapSDaviey: the charm spec has not changed, but juju is more strict on types .. so if there are string type config items that have boolean or int defaults, that will fail...16:18
Davieysmoser: Yes, the bug is bugging as expected.16:19
smoseri left that in utlemming's hands.16:19
smoserthere is good explanation (i think) in his MP at https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/cloud-init/cloud-init.lc_all/+merge/9776816:19
DavieyI need to follow up with infinity about bug 759545.. would really like to get that at beta2-ish16:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 759545 in grub2 (Ubuntu Precise) "user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75954516:20
DavieyOkay... Any other bugs which MUST be resolved before release?16:20
Daviey(that are not being tracked)16:21
Daviey(final release)16:21
hallynfinal release?16:21
zuli just got bitten by this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/93666716:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 936667 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Upstart early job logging causes boot failure for systems with no initramfs (error is "No available ptys")" [High,Confirmed]16:21
Davieyhallyn: You know we release this stuff, right? :)16:21
Davieyjodh: how is bug 936667 looking?16:22
smoserzul, that has a solution, right?16:22
zulsmoser: it has a bzr branch attached to it16:22
smosermaybe we just need to get james to poke at it.16:22
Davieyjames = jodh16:23
Davieyi guess jodh is afk.16:23
smoser(but if you're running into it, zul, you're doing it wrong ... you shouldn't be using the tarball cloud images on openstack)16:23
DavieyOkay... a new addition this meeting....  BLUEPRINT TIME \o/16:23
zulsmoser: gah?16:23
smoseruse the full disk images.16:23
smoseror just type 'cloud-publish-ubuntu'16:23
smosererr... i guess you have to add '--disk'16:24
Daviey#link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/#Servercloud16:24
arosalesHow should we step through the blueprints?16:24
Davieyzul: does openvswitch still need to be in main?16:24
arosalesPriority and Completing?16:24
jodhDaviey: it's fixed in upstream. will hopefully get into Ubuntu Thu/Fri, but may be safer to say Monday as updating init on Friday isn't optimal ;-)16:24
zulDaviey:  no i dont think so16:24
Davieyarosales: want to take this?16:24
Davieyjodh: Sounds too conservative to me... :)  if it compiles, ship it, right?16:25
jodhDaviey: errrr...16:25
arosalesDaviey: sure, just want to discuss how we should identify the blueprints we should discuss here16:25
arosalesI am looking at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html16:25
arosalesand sorting by Priority and Completion16:26
Davieyarosales: go for it :)16:26
arosalesroger that16:27
arosales50% Essential16:27
arosalesroaksoax: working on MIRs?16:27
roaksoaxarosales: when we MIR maas, we'll mir those dependencies16:28
arosalesroaksoax: ok16:28
arosaleszul:  Daviey: looks like packaging is in progress16:28
arosalesalso waiting on some MIRs, correct?16:28
Davieyarosales: yes16:28
Davieythat is the primary risk atm16:28
zularosales: right16:29
arosales0% Essential16:29
Daviey'Essential' :)16:30
arosaleslooks like qa team mostly though16:30
* arosales looking at Highs16:30
arosalesI think jamespage is making good progress here with BigTop16:31
jamespageI'm likely to land hadoop 1.0.2 and hbase 0.92.1 into PPA's in the next 24 hrs or so16:31
jamespagebut other than that looking OK16:31
arosalescool, thanks jamespage16:31
arosalesI think smoser and utlemming have been working on updating the cloud image pages.16:32
SpamapSarosales: I believe that is more about cloud.ubuntu.com16:32
arosalesSpamapS: ah, ok16:33
smoseryeah, i have not done anythign on cloud.ubuntu.com, but utlemming did make cloud-images.ubuntu.com look purdy16:33
arosalesDaviey: is the charms also blocking on MIRs?16:33
arosalesDaviey: same thing with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-testing16:33
arosalesI think utlemming had a few todos on cloud.ubuntu.com, I'll catch up with him later16:34
Davieyarosales: no16:34
arosalesm_3: SpamapS: how is testing against different providers going?16:34
Davieyarosales: charms are irrelevant to MIR/archive work16:35
SpamapSarosales: everything is stalled on merging my JUJU_DEFAULT_NS changes into juju16:35
arosalesLooks like adam_g (who is away) has some todos for charming16:35
arosaleson openstack16:36
Davieyarosales: I'll dig through them later with him.16:36
SpamapSWent from a one line change to parsing out series, user and schema.. kind of got ridiculous16:36
SpamapSso hazmat has taken that on16:36
SpamapShopefully Atlas doesn't shrug ;)16:36
arosalesSpamapS: any eta on getting that in?16:36
arosalesfrom hazmat?16:36
SpamapSarosales: no16:36
SpamapSI'm staying out of their hair until subordinates land16:37
SpamapSarosales: I can do it with a wrapper.. so I"m not totally blocked16:37
SpamapSarosales: and that spec doesn't really have any time pressure16:37
m_3arosales: just starting testing against other provider today... summit's pertty much wrapped... yay!16:37
arosalesgood to hear :-)16:37
arosalesthat covers the high and essentials16:38
* arosales skimming mediums . . 16:38
arosalesAny other blueprints others would like to discuss?16:38
arosaleshas a few remaining todos for aquette16:39
arosalesDaviey: progress ok on that one?16:40
Davieyarosales: no16:40
Davieyarosales: mostly dropped16:40
Davieyarosales: an excellent candidate for next cycle tho :)16:40
Davieyarosales: Yes, but i wanted to speak to the spec owner first.16:40
arosalesAny other blueprints?16:40
DavieyNothing to declare.16:41
arosalesDaviey:  sounds good16:41
arosalesok, those are the ones that jumped out at me.16:41
Davieythanks arosales16:41
Daviey#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:41
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DavieyToo early to mention openstack summit?16:42
arosalesI think jcastro is going to be there16:42
arosalesm_3 came back from MountainWestruby16:42
Daviey16th-20th April, Many people will be in San Fransisco, for Openstack Design Summit and Conference16:42
Davieyany others?16:42
Daviey#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team16:43
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DavieyHow is our QA looking?16:43
Davieyjamespage: Openstack QA lab back to live 'n kicking?16:43
jamespageDaviey: almost16:43
Davieyjamespage: ETA?16:43
jamespagehopefully today16:44
Davieyjamespage: \o/16:44
DavieyAnything else relevant for QA at this part?16:44
Daviey(smoke testing would be appreciated by all, as we run up to B2)16:44
Daviey#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:44
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Davieyhey smb o/16:44
Davieysmb: How is our lovely kernel?16:45
Davieysmoser: Is this your section?16:45
smbDaviey, Always geting better16:45
Davieysmb: \o/16:45
smoseri dont reallyhave any thing for smb16:45
smbNot much from me either16:45
smoseralthough, i bothered hiim about a system with btfs16:45
smbJust one note16:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 948323 in ipxe (Ubuntu) "Rom images for e1000 and ne2k missing vendor and device id" [Low,Confirmed]16:45
Davieysmb: Did you have a chance to look at bug 960311?16:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 960311 in linux (Ubuntu) "Networking on Dell PowerEdge R300 with Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express is not functional" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96031116:45
smbThink the change is in our delta and maybe lynxman could verify that...16:46
smosergenerally, i would like someone from the kernel team to look at why a system is so slow during 'apt-get upgrade' usin btrfs root. (ie, 180 packags install took like 100 minutes , after download).16:46
Davieysmb / hallyn: We've gone our own way with ipxe...16:46
Davieywe have a newer version than Debian, and i suspect they might not have that bug16:46
smbDaviey, yes and I deffered until we have more info16:46
SpamapSsmb: try it with 'eatmydata' .. probably fsync problems16:47
Davieysmb: If you require more support to get this in, give me a shout at any time.. ok?16:47
* smb avoids btrfs actually16:47
smbThis helps too... :-P16:47
Davieysmb: Did you manage to look at the bug i punted you shortly before the meeting?16:47
hallynDaviey: smb: oh, you're saying we should go ahead and push?16:47
hallyn(For ipxe)16:47
hallynif so, smb, please feel free.  I trust you've done gobloads of testing :)16:48
smbhallyn, Maybe not as indipendant but when ther eis something anyway16:48
Davieyhallyn: I think so... based on the fact we already have a huge delta.16:48
smbDaviey, already answered that in the stream :)16:48
smbDaviey, I looked at the bug but it has not much info in it16:48
smbDaviey, Beside a message saying likely a firmware issue16:48
smbDaviey, Would be nice to know whether it ever worked16:49
Davieysmb: right!16:50
DavieyThanks smb !16:50
Davieyanything else for kernel?16:50
smbhallyn, I did some test compiles and things seemed to move into the right places (ipxe)16:50
smbAnd hope nothing else depends on the other link -names (the names for the kvm part remain the samee)16:51
hallynsmb: please feel free to push.  you have the rights?16:51
smbhallyn, still no ;)16:51
Davieysmb: you suck :)16:51
Davieysmb: Get upload access! :)16:51
smbDaviey, I know, not to be trusted for such things16:51
Davieyright, thanks smb for giving us a lovely kernel16:52
smbDaviey, I assume the path to become core-dev is to ask people to sponsor so often until they become bored and vote for you... ;)16:52
Davieysmb: :)16:53
Davieyokay, best move on.. thanls16:53
Daviey#topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:53
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DavieyHmm.. moving on16:54
Daviey#topic Open Discussion16:54
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jamespagezentyal has been accepted into precise!16:55
DavieyGood work jamespage16:55
Davieyanything else?16:55
jamespagegood work bencer who did the packaing16:56
SpamapSyah, hooray for zentyal!16:57
Daviey#topic Announce next meeting date and time16:57
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DavieyTuesday 2012-03-27 at 1600 UTC16:57
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jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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ppisatiP/omap4: a new kernel (3.2.0-1409.12) is out - 3.2.11 topped with latest TI BSP.17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:03
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:03
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:03
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ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html17:03
ogasawara|| apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 4 work items ||17:03
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 1 work items ||17:03
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 3 work items ||17:03
ogasawaraIf your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)17:03
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ckingnothing to report this week17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:04
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ogasawaraWe intend to uploaded the 3.2.0-19.31 kernel today.  This upload17:04
ogasawaracontains a rebase to v3.2.12, disables CONFIG_DRM_PSB_CDV, and provides17:04
ogasawaraa necessary fix for pre-core99 UP machines which then allows us to17:04
ogasawaraproceed with removing the non-smp PowerPC flavor.  This will be the last17:04
ogasawaraupload prior to Beta-2 Freeze this Thurs, March 22.  Any uploads after17:04
ogasawarathat are subject to approval of the release team.  Beta-2 is next Thurs,17:04
ogasawaraMar 29.17:04
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:04
ogasawara * Thurs Mar 22 - Beta-2 Freeze (~2 days)17:04
ogasawara * Thurs Mar 29 - Beta-2 (~1 week)17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)17:04
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apwCurrently we have 72 CVEs on our radar, with one new CVE added this week.17:04
apwSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:04
apw 17:04
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:04
apw 17:04
apwBroadly the backlog is unchanged this week:17:04
apw 17:04
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:04
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:04
apw 17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)17:05
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bjf 17:05
bjfHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (Mar. 06):17:05
bjf 17:05
bjf * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.100 - Regression testing; A single CVE.17:05
bjf * Lucid    - 2.6.32-40.87  - Ready for -updates; CVEs, eCryptfs, NFSv4, block, and other misc. fixes.17:05
bjf * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.67  - Ready for -updates; A single CVE.17:05
bjf * Natty    - 2.6.38-13.57  - Ready for -updates; CVEs, eCryptfs and some other fixes.17:05
bjf * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-16.29   - Regression testing; CVEs and 3 stable upstream releases.17:05
bjf 17:05
bjfCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:05
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:05
bjf 17:05
bjfFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:05
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:05
bjf 17:05
bjfFuture stable cadence cycles:17:05
bjf * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock17:05
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:05
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:06
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:06:03 2012 UTC.17:06
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ckingblink and it's over17:06
kamalthanks jsalisbury17:06
ckingjsalisbury, thanks for running the meeting17:06
brendandDaviey, looks like bug 960311 is happening with Oneiric too17:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 960311 in linux (Ubuntu) "Networking on Dell PowerEdge R300 with Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express is not functional" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96031117:09
brendandwrong room17:09
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czajkowskigreg-g: itnet7 huats xdatap119:59
* greg-g waves20:00
czajkowskiSergioMeneses: aloha20:00
xdatap1hello everybody20:01
greg-gHello there everyone, lets get the LoCo Council meeting started!20:01
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Mar 20 20:01:27 2012 UTC.  The chair is greg-g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:01
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czajkowskithelinuxer: ping20:01
thelinuxerhi czajkowski20:01
greg-gWe only have one thing on the agenda today, and that is the approval of the Egyptian LoCo20:02
greg-ghi thelinuxer20:02
czajkowskianyone else here from the team20:02
thelinuxerhi greg-g20:02
greg-gdo you mind doing a quick introduction of the Egyptian LoCo?20:02
thelinuxeryes ashams MohamedAlaa9820:02
thelinuxergreg-g: of course20:02
greg-g#topic Egypt LoCo Approval20:02
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thelinuxerthe team started to be really active almost 2 years ago20:02
SergioMeneseshi guys20:02
thelinuxerwe made our main objective to introduce more people to free software20:03
thelinuxerand we decided that ubuntu was the right way to go20:03
greg-g#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication20:03
thelinuxerwe had several install fests20:03
thelinuxerand of course we do support on our different channels, IRC, Faceboook ...etc20:03
greg-gthere was a choice? :)20:03
SergioMenesesthelinuxer, nice pictures!20:03
greg-g(of Ubuntu vs ???) ;)20:03
thelinuxerSergioMeneses: thanks check out more on facebook20:04
czajkowskilovely application folks well done20:04
czajkowskidoes make things a lot easier!20:04
thelinuxerczajkowski: thanks20:04
thelinuxeryes we had a choice :)20:04
SergioMenesesthey have a good number of ubuntu members20:04
thelinuxerbut ubuntu was winning in every way :)20:04
itnet7Very concise, I really enjoyed reading about what the Egypt team has been doing20:04
greg-gthelinuxer: :) I know I know, we all do. I'm not always serious in meetings :)20:04
thelinuxeritnet7: thanks :)20:05
thelinuxerare there any questions ?20:05
czajkowskithelinuxer: so tell us how things are done in your tema20:05
czajkowskihow do you organise events?20:06
czajkowskiany issues you've come across and how you've delt with them20:06
thelinuxeryes of course there are always issues with venues20:06
thelinuxerbut most of this is solved because we have so many active members in different universities20:06
thelinuxerwhich is really a good place for our events20:06
* greg-g nods to issues associated with venues20:07
thelinuxermostly to organize an event we set a date for it like a week after the release date20:07
thelinuxerthen we start to search for an appropriate venues20:07
* greg-g nods20:07
SergioMenesesthelinuxer, I like the new structure, it's working now?20:07
thelinuxerwe start calling for volunteers for the help desk activities and FAQs and giving presentations20:07
thelinuxerwe are actually test driving it right now20:08
thelinuxersome bugs have been reported on launchpad20:08
thelinuxerbut it's not 100% active20:08
thelinuxerstill some rough edges :)20:08
SergioMenesesthelinuxer, ok!...20:09
thelinuxerSergioMeneses: :)20:09
czajkowskiyou do seem very active my only concern is many members being from unis, will they still be involved once they finish and how to get non uni folks invovled20:09
thelinuxerwe are trying our best, but the fact is if we get for students involved then this technology choice would adopted by companies20:09
thelinuxerand hence we can make real change20:10
czajkowskigreat stuf20:10
czajkowskiI've no other questions20:10
thelinuxerwe also have a couple of members who has graduated and they are still active20:10
xdatap1thelinuxer, I like the idea of an orientation session. Could you tell us more about it. How do it works? Is it online or face-face activity?20:10
itnet7Definitely true thelinuxer20:10
greg-gvery good.20:10
thelinuxerxdatap1: sure20:10
czajkowskiI will say I'm not gone on the use of n00b would perfer to see the word new user. but that's my only comment20:10
greg-g#voters czajkowski itnet7 huats greg-g xdatap120:11
meetingologyCurrent voters: czajkowski greg-g huats itnet7 xdatap120:11
thelinuxerczajkowski: sure we can think about another geeky term :)20:11
SergioMenesesczajkowski, I'm agree20:11
greg-gagreed re "n00b" :)20:11
greg-galright, I think we ready to vote!20:11
xdatap1greg-g, wait, I asked a question20:11
greg-gah, yes, please do20:11
thelinuxerxdatap1: the session should includedfull details about how the team works20:11
thelinuxerand what's the different activities people can get involved in20:11
thelinuxerif it's offline then it would be a normal presentation so the new folks would meet the team20:12
thelinuxerand if online we can use IRC, Google+ or whatever platform we choose20:12
thelinuxer)done answering the question :20:12
xdatap1thelinuxer, thanks, it's a nice idea, congrats20:12
greg-gany other questions? I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Hard to read people's faces over IRC :)20:13
thelinuxerxdatap1: thank you very much20:13
itnet7good here20:13
xdatap1thelinuxer, last info, just a curiosity20:13
thelinuxerxdatap1: please do20:14
xdatap1thelinuxer, egypt is a very big country. Where are from most of the members? Are them mainly from big cities or do you have people from all around?20:14
thelinuxeri am happy you asked that20:14
thelinuxerour biggest governorates are Alexandria and Cairo20:14
thelinuxera great number of members are from these 220:14
thelinuxerbut also there is a small governorate called Mansoura20:15
thelinuxersome people from Mansoura joined the team20:15
thelinuxerand one of our very active members is originally from Mansoura20:15
* xdatap1 checking the map :)20:15
thelinuxerthey are planning to start a team there but it hasn't been officially on20:15
thelinuxerand they were the ones who gave us a chance to participate in OSDay in Mansoura20:16
xdatap1cool! Thanks thelinuxer!20:16
thelinuxerxdatap1: yw :)20:16
xdatap1greg-g, I'm ready to vote20:17
greg-galrighty, I think we're all ready then20:17
greg-g#vote Egypt LoCo Approval20:17
meetingologyPlease vote on: Egypt LoCo Approval20:17
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:17
meetingology+1 received from greg-g20:17
meetingology+1 received from itnet720:17
xdatap1+1 keep up the good work20:17
meetingology+1 keep up the good work received from xdatap120:17
czajkowski+1 well done20:18
meetingology+1 well done received from czajkowski20:18
paultag20:11 < greg-g> #voters czajkowski itnet7 huats greg-g xdatap120:18
paultagyou missed SergioMeneses20:18
meetingology+1 received from huats20:18
huatsgreat work20:18
meetingologyVoting ended on: Egypt LoCo Approval20:18
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:18
meetingologyMotion carried20:18
huatsI realy like the  application20:18
SergioMenesesI see20:18
thelinuxerthanks everyone :)20:18
xdatap1congratulation thelinuxer !20:18
greg-goh well, Egypt still was approved without SergioMeneses' vote :)20:18
thelinuxerhuats: that's Menopia's work our designer :)20:18
Menopiathanks everyone :)20:18
SergioMenesesgreg-g, :D20:18
greg-ggreat job thelinuxer and everyone else in the Egypt team20:19
itnet7Awesome job, way to go!!20:19
greg-gSergioMeneses: my apologies, my second faux pas during the meeting ;)20:19
thelinuxerThanks again I will go spread the news :)20:19
czajkowskiwell done folks20:19
SergioMenesesthelinuxer, congratulations20:19
greg-gis there any other business for this LoCo Council meeting?20:19
SergioMenesesgreg-g, don't worry!20:19
czajkowskiand again if you could use another word for n00b like new user that would be best20:19
greg-g#topic AOB20:19
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thelinuxerSergioMeneses: thanks :)20:19
czajkowskiwe have a new wiki page created20:19
czajkowskifor approval/re approval process20:19
thelinuxerczajkowski: we will reconsider the names for sure20:20
czajkowskiit would be good to get that out there and possibly ask for translations20:20
czajkowskiso we need to A) update our wiki page20:20
greg-g#topic approval/reapproval process20:20
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czajkowskib) post to loco contacts20:20
czajkowskic) add to a blog20:20
czajkowskid) translate20:20
greg-galright, who wants to edit the wiki and who can do the announcements?20:21
xdatap1czajkowski, +1 it looks like a good plan20:21
czajkowskiit's basically copy n paste from sergio and pop into our wiki20:22
SergioMeneseswe have to chage this page too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines20:22
greg-gso, just that page and this one, right https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval ?20:23
greg-gSergioMeneses: mind updating the wiki sense you have the wiki text, right?20:23
czajkowskiwhich does make sense20:23
greg-g#action SergioMeneses to update LoCo Council wiki pages with updated text20:24
meetingologyACTION: SergioMeneses to update LoCo Council wiki pages with updated text20:24
greg-gthanks SergioMeneses  ;)20:24
SergioMenesesgreg-g, jaja20:24
xdatap1thanks SergioMeneses  :)20:24
czajkowskionce there're done I can ask dpm to get the translations in order20:24
greg-galright, blogger, anyone want to blog? I can if no one else does20:24
greg-gczajkowski: cool, thanks20:24
czajkowskigreg-g: I'll add it to the loco council blog20:25
greg-g#action czajkowski to ask dpm for translation help20:25
meetingologyACTION: czajkowski to ask dpm for translation help20:25
czajkowskionce I find my login20:25
SergioMenesesczajkowski, :D20:25
greg-g#action czajkowski will add the announcement to the Council blog20:25
meetingologyACTION: czajkowski will add the announcement to the Council blog20:25
greg-gczajkowski: do you want me to write a quick "Here's our updated policy..." post you can copy paste?20:25
greg-g#action greg-g to write a quick post re the updated policy document20:27
meetingologyACTION: greg-g to write a quick post re the updated policy document20:27
greg-gI think that's it for that topic20:27
greg-ganything else?20:27
YoBoYcan I suggest you to keep the list of the LC members on a separate page to let translator include this list and not "translate it" ? it can help to keep all the page updated20:27
greg-gYoBoY: yeah, not sure why we're listed there, honestly. It might be an <<include>>'d page anyway20:28
xdatap1we can keep them in a separate page and then include it20:28
greg-g(oh, its not)20:28
czajkowskigreg-g: sure :)20:28
YoBoYgreg-g: there or on other pages. can be usefull on lot of other pages :)20:28
SergioMenesesthe list is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil20:28
greg-gxdatap1: mind doing that? making it a separate page that we include where appropriate?20:29
xdatap1I can fix it, no problem20:29
greg-gcool, thanks20:29
greg-g#action xdatap1 to separate out the list of Council members to separate page and <<include>> where appropriate20:29
meetingologyACTION: xdatap1 to separate out the list of Council members to separate page and <<include>> where appropriate20:29
greg-ganything else?20:30
greg-ggoing once...20:30
SergioMenesesgreg-g, continue20:30
greg-ggoing twice20:31
greg-ggoing a third time... :)20:31
greg-galright, thanks everyone for showing up!20:31
czajkowskinope all good20:31
czajkowskithanks greg-g20:31
greg-ghave a great rest of the day!20:31
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar 20 20:31:48 2012 UTC.20:31
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czajkowskigreg-g: update the wiki and the team report :)20:31
SergioMenesesgreg-g, great work!20:31
xdatap1thanks everybody!20:31
greg-gczajkowski: sorry, no more #actions can be added :P20:32
greg-gczajkowski: will do. :) Mind if it waits until tomorrow?20:32
czajkowskinope no worries20:32
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