[15:59] <hallyn> \o
[16:01]  * justinlw not attending, on ARM tech review meeting
[16:02] <zul> hello
[16:02] <Ursinha> hello
[16:02] <smoser> o/
[16:02] <arosales> Hello
[16:03] <lynxman> o/
[16:04] <Daviey> o/
[16:05] <Daviey> Oh, it's me!
[16:05] <Daviey> Sorry
[16:05] <Daviey> #startmeeting
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[16:05] <Daviey> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:05] <Daviey> arosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development
[16:05] <hallyn> think i saw that done
[16:05] <arosales> Hello
[16:06] <arosales> I think I saw that was added,
[16:06] <Daviey> cool
[16:06] <Daviey> nothing else?
[16:06] <Daviey> #topic Precise Development
[16:06] <Daviey> So... 2 days until Beta 2 Freeze
[16:06] <hallyn> "eek"
[16:06] <Daviey> lets go through the bugs:
[16:07] <Daviey> #link http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:07] <Daviey> bug 883988
[16:07] <Daviey> adam_g: ^^ ?
[16:08] <arosales> hallyn: thank you for adding the release /blueprint subtopicks (I was diff'ing to see where that came in)
[16:08] <hallyn> arosales: i didn't :)  accident of wiki misbehavior
[16:08] <Daviey> bug 850443: considering deferring
[16:08] <Daviey> smoser: is bug 928990 you?
[16:09] <smoser> well, unless someone else wantsn to look at it.
[16:09] <smoser> it would be good to get in, but its been that way for ever.
[16:09] <Daviey> :(
[16:10]  * utlemming can't attend due to a phone conflict with
[16:10] <utlemming> a vendor
[16:10] <Daviey> utlemming: ok, can you comment if bug 893926 is progressing?
[16:10] <SpamapS> lol, I've no excuse. Just forgot now that it is so much more convenient. ;)
[16:10] <Daviey> SpamapS: bug 930916 :)
[16:10] <utlemming> I've done the initial scoping, hoping to have something this week
[16:10] <SpamapS> Daviey: its a simple fix, just haven't prioritized it yet.
[16:11] <Daviey> adam_g: bug 956366
[16:11] <Daviey> utlemming: thanks
[16:11] <Daviey> roaksoax: Are you likely going to have capacity to work on bug 880339 this week?
[16:11] <roaksoax> Daviey: no TBH
[16:11] <Daviey> I suspect it's a "no"..
[16:11] <Daviey> SpamapS: Can you take that?
[16:12] <Daviey> zul: bug 907197 ?
[16:12] <zul> was not able to reproduce and no feedback from bug reporter
[16:12] <Daviey> jjohansen: Hey, how is bug 925024 progressing?
[16:12] <Daviey> zul: Make it incomplete ?
[16:13] <zul> ack
[16:13] <SpamapS> Daviey: the apparmor bug has been fixed for a long time.. I think
[16:13] <Daviey> SpamapS: ah cool, can you update the bug with what you know?
[16:13] <Daviey> zul: bug 954692
[16:13] <SpamapS> Daviey: I did.. the reporter has not responded.
[16:13] <jjohansen> Daviey: err that one should be fixed
[16:13] <Daviey> SpamapS: hah
[16:13] <Daviey> jjohansen: oh great!  Can you update the bug task? :)
[16:14] <Daviey> zul: tracking, bug 901881?
[16:14] <zul> Daviey: fix was uploaded this morning
[16:14] <jjohansen> Daviey: yep, sorry
[16:14] <zul> Daviey: yep
[16:14] <Daviey> zul: bug 959610 ?
[16:14] <Daviey> jjohansen: Thanks!
[16:14] <zul> fix has been proposed
[16:15] <Daviey> super!
[16:15] <Daviey> Soo... We are tracking a bunch of MIR's.. but firstly.. is there anything not being tracked which are purely b1 critical ?
[16:15] <Daviey> As in a release blocker for B1 only.. ie, needs fixing this week
[16:15] <SpamapS> B2
[16:15] <Daviey> err, yeah
[16:16] <Daviey> SpamapS: I'd like to jump in a time machine :)
[16:16] <hallyn> well the lxc apparmor stuff is close to that...
[16:16] <SpamapS> If juju's support for subordinates lands this week, on time, I'll be filing a fairly late FFE for B2 for all the new stuff in juju.
[16:17] <Daviey> hallyn: how is it progressing?
[16:17] <hallyn> Daviey: it's sort of whack-a-mole right now.
[16:17] <Daviey> SpamapS: Are you tracking it's development and testing closely ?
[16:17] <hallyn> so i don't know if we're one step away, or not
[16:17] <Daviey> SpamapS: does it change charm format at all?
[16:17] <Daviey> hallyn: :(
[16:17] <hallyn> but, i guess it can go in after next freeze if need be
[16:18] <Daviey> hallyn: can you keep me posted on trajectory ?
[16:18] <SpamapS> Daviey: no, but a bootstrapped env from the current one will fail to launch once the distro is updated because of the changes which allow you to reboot machines.
[16:18] <hallyn> Daviey: ok
[16:18] <Daviey> smoser: Do you know if the cloud locale image issue was resolved now?
[16:18] <Daviey> SpamapS: ok
[16:18] <smoser> not resolved.
[16:18] <smoser> its working as expected.
[16:18] <SpamapS> Daviey: the charm spec has not changed, but juju is more strict on types .. so if there are string type config items that have boolean or int defaults, that will fail...
[16:19] <Daviey> smoser: Yes, the bug is bugging as expected.
[16:19] <smoser> i left that in utlemming's hands.
[16:19] <smoser> there is good explanation (i think) in his MP at https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/cloud-init/cloud-init.lc_all/+merge/97768
[16:20] <Daviey> I need to follow up with infinity about bug 759545.. would really like to get that at beta2-ish
[16:20] <Daviey> Okay... Any other bugs which MUST be resolved before release?
[16:21] <Daviey> (that are not being tracked)
[16:21] <Daviey> (final release)
[16:21] <hallyn> final release?
[16:21] <zul> i just got bitten by this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/936667
[16:21] <Daviey> hallyn: You know we release this stuff, right? :)
[16:21] <hallyn> doh
[16:22] <Daviey> jodh: how is bug 936667 looking?
[16:22] <smoser> zul, that has a solution, right?
[16:22] <zul> smoser: it has a bzr branch attached to it
[16:22] <smoser> maybe we just need to get james to poke at it.
[16:22] <smoser> right.
[16:23] <Daviey> james = jodh
[16:23] <Daviey> i guess jodh is afk.
[16:23] <smoser> (but if you're running into it, zul, you're doing it wrong ... you shouldn't be using the tarball cloud images on openstack)
[16:23] <Daviey> Okay... a new addition this meeting....  BLUEPRINT TIME \o/
[16:23] <zul> smoser: gah?
[16:23] <smoser> use the full disk images.
[16:23] <smoser> or just type 'cloud-publish-ubuntu'
[16:24] <zul> ok
[16:24] <smoser> err... i guess you have to add '--disk'
[16:24] <Daviey> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/#Servercloud
[16:24] <arosales> How should we step through the blueprints?
[16:24] <Daviey> zul: does openvswitch still need to be in main?
[16:24] <arosales> Priority and Completing?
[16:24] <jodh> Daviey: it's fixed in upstream. will hopefully get into Ubuntu Thu/Fri, but may be safer to say Monday as updating init on Friday isn't optimal ;-)
[16:24] <zul> Daviey:  no i dont think so
[16:24] <Daviey> arosales: want to take this?
[16:25] <Daviey> jodh: Sounds too conservative to me... :)  if it compiles, ship it, right?
[16:25] <jodh> Daviey: errrr...
[16:25] <arosales> Daviey: sure, just want to discuss how we should identify the blueprints we should discuss here
[16:25] <arosales> I am looking at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
[16:26] <arosales> and sorting by Priority and Completion
[16:26] <Daviey> arosales: go for it :)
[16:27] <arosales> roger that
[16:27] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-orchestra
[16:27] <arosales> 50% Essential
[16:27] <arosales> roaksoax: working on MIRs?
[16:28] <roaksoax> arosales: when we MIR maas, we'll mir those dependencies
[16:28] <arosales> roaksoax: ok
[16:28] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack
[16:28] <arosales> zul:  Daviey: looks like packaging is in progress
[16:28] <arosales> also waiting on some MIRs, correct?
[16:28] <Daviey> arosales: yes
[16:28] <Daviey> that is the primary risk atm
[16:29] <zul> arosales: right
[16:29] <arosales> ok
[16:29] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-standard-sru-testing
[16:29] <arosales> 0% Essential
[16:30] <Daviey> 'Essential' :)
[16:30] <arosales> looks like qa team mostly though
[16:30]  * arosales looking at Highs
[16:30] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-hdp-hadoop
[16:31] <arosales> I think jamespage is making good progress here with BigTop
[16:31] <jamespage> I'm likely to land hadoop 1.0.2 and hbase 0.92.1 into PPA's in the next 24 hrs or so
[16:31] <jamespage> but other than that looking OK
[16:31] <arosales> cool, thanks jamespage
[16:31] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-cloud-portal-growth
[16:32] <arosales> I think smoser and utlemming have been working on updating the cloud image pages.
[16:32] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-charms
[16:32] <SpamapS> arosales: I believe that is more about cloud.ubuntu.com
[16:33] <arosales> SpamapS: ah, ok
[16:33] <smoser> yeah, i have not done anythign on cloud.ubuntu.com, but utlemming did make cloud-images.ubuntu.com look purdy
[16:33] <arosales> Daviey: is the charms also blocking on MIRs?
[16:33] <arosales> Daviey: same thing with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-testing
[16:34] <arosales> I think utlemming had a few todos on cloud.ubuntu.com, I'll catch up with him later
[16:34] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-juju-charm-testing
[16:34] <Daviey> arosales: no
[16:34] <arosales> m_3: SpamapS: how is testing against different providers going?
[16:35] <Daviey> arosales: charms are irrelevant to MIR/archive work
[16:35] <SpamapS> arosales: everything is stalled on merging my JUJU_DEFAULT_NS changes into juju
[16:35] <arosales> Looks like adam_g (who is away) has some todos for charming
[16:36] <arosales> on openstack
[16:36] <Daviey> arosales: I'll dig through them later with him.
[16:36] <SpamapS> Went from a one line change to parsing out series, user and schema.. kind of got ridiculous
[16:36] <arosales> ok
[16:36] <SpamapS> so hazmat has taken that on
[16:36] <SpamapS> hopefully Atlas doesn't shrug ;)
[16:36] <arosales> SpamapS: any eta on getting that in?
[16:36] <arosales> from hazmat?
[16:36] <SpamapS> arosales: no
[16:36] <arosales> ok
[16:37] <arosales> :-(
[16:37] <SpamapS> I'm staying out of their hair until subordinates land
[16:37] <SpamapS> arosales: I can do it with a wrapper.. so I"m not totally blocked
[16:37] <SpamapS> arosales: and that spec doesn't really have any time pressure
[16:37] <m_3> arosales: just starting testing against other provider today... summit's pertty much wrapped... yay!
[16:37] <arosales> good to hear :-)
[16:38] <arosales> that covers the high and essentials
[16:38]  * arosales skimming mediums . .  
[16:38] <arosales> Any other blueprints others would like to discuss?
[16:39] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloud-power-management
[16:39] <arosales> has a few remaining todos for aquette
[16:40] <arosales> Daviey: progress ok on that one?
[16:40] <Daviey> arosales: no
[16:40] <Daviey> arosales: mostly dropped
[16:40] <arosales> defer?
[16:40] <Daviey> arosales: an excellent candidate for next cycle tho :)
[16:40] <arosales> ok
[16:40] <Daviey> arosales: Yes, but i wanted to speak to the spec owner first.
[16:40] <arosales> Any other blueprints?
[16:41] <Daviey> Nothing to declare.
[16:41] <arosales> Daviey:  sounds good
[16:41] <arosales> ok, those are the ones that jumped out at me.
[16:41] <Daviey> thanks arosales
[16:41] <Daviey> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:42] <Daviey> Too early to mention openstack summit?
[16:42] <arosales> POSSCon
[16:42] <arosales> I think jcastro is going to be there
[16:42] <arosales> m_3 came back from MountainWestruby
[16:42] <Daviey> 16th-20th April, Many people will be in San Fransisco, for Openstack Design Summit and Conference
[16:42] <Daviey> any others?
[16:43] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team
[16:43] <Daviey> How is our QA looking?
[16:43] <Daviey> jamespage: Openstack QA lab back to live 'n kicking?
[16:43] <jamespage> Daviey: almost
[16:43] <Daviey> jamespage: ETA?
[16:44] <jamespage> hopefully today
[16:44] <Daviey> jamespage: \o/
[16:44] <jamespage> :-)
[16:44] <Daviey> Anything else relevant for QA at this part?
[16:44] <Daviey> (smoke testing would be appreciated by all, as we run up to B2)
[16:44] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:44] <Daviey> hey smb o/
[16:44] <smb> hi
[16:45] <Daviey> smb: How is our lovely kernel?
[16:45] <Daviey> smoser: Is this your section?
[16:45] <smb> Daviey, Always geting better
[16:45] <Daviey> smb: \o/
[16:45] <smoser> i dont reallyhave any thing for smb
[16:45] <smb> Not much from me either
[16:45] <smoser> although, i bothered hiim about a system with btfs
[16:45] <smb> Just one note
[16:45] <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipxe/+bug/948323
[16:45] <Daviey> smb: Did you have a chance to look at bug 960311?
[16:46] <smb> Think the change is in our delta and maybe lynxman could verify that...
[16:46] <smoser> generally, i would like someone from the kernel team to look at why a system is so slow during 'apt-get upgrade' usin btrfs root. (ie, 180 packags install took like 100 minutes , after download).
[16:46] <Daviey> smb / hallyn: We've gone our own way with ipxe...
[16:46] <Daviey> we have a newer version than Debian, and i suspect they might not have that bug
[16:46] <smb> Daviey, yes and I deffered until we have more info
[16:47] <SpamapS> smb: try it with 'eatmydata' .. probably fsync problems
[16:47] <Daviey> smb: If you require more support to get this in, give me a shout at any time.. ok?
[16:47]  * smb avoids btrfs actually
[16:47] <smb> This helps too... :-P
[16:47] <Daviey> heh
[16:47] <Daviey> smb: Did you manage to look at the bug i punted you shortly before the meeting?
[16:47] <hallyn> Daviey: smb: oh, you're saying we should go ahead and push?
[16:47] <hallyn> (For ipxe)
[16:48] <hallyn> if so, smb, please feel free.  I trust you've done gobloads of testing :)
[16:48] <smb> hallyn, Maybe not as indipendant but when ther eis something anyway
[16:48] <Daviey> hallyn: I think so... based on the fact we already have a huge delta.
[16:48] <smb> Daviey, already answered that in the stream :)
[16:48] <smb> Daviey, I looked at the bug but it has not much info in it
[16:48] <smb> Daviey, Beside a message saying likely a firmware issue
[16:49] <smb> Daviey, Would be nice to know whether it ever worked
[16:49] <Daviey> otp
[16:50] <Daviey> smb: right!
[16:50] <Daviey> Thanks smb !
[16:50] <Daviey> anything else for kernel?
[16:50] <smb> hallyn, I did some test compiles and things seemed to move into the right places (ipxe)
[16:51] <smb> And hope nothing else depends on the other link -names (the names for the kvm part remain the samee)
[16:51] <hallyn> smb: please feel free to push.  you have the rights?
[16:51] <smb> hallyn, still no ;)
[16:51] <Daviey> smb: you suck :)
[16:51] <Daviey> smb: Get upload access! :)
[16:51] <smb> Daviey, I know, not to be trusted for such things
[16:51] <Daviey> heh
[16:52] <Daviey> incorrect.
[16:52] <Daviey> right, thanks smb for giving us a lovely kernel
[16:52] <smb> Daviey, I assume the path to become core-dev is to ask people to sponsor so often until they become bored and vote for you... ;)
[16:53] <Daviey> smb: :)
[16:53] <Daviey> okay, best move on.. thanls
[16:53] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:54] <Daviey> Hmm.. moving on
[16:54] <Daviey> #topic Open Discussion
[16:55] <jamespage> o/
[16:55] <jamespage> zentyal has been accepted into precise!
[16:55] <Daviey> \o/
[16:55] <Daviey> Good work jamespage
[16:55] <jamespage> EOM
[16:55] <Daviey> anything else?
[16:56] <jamespage> good work bencer who did the packaing
[16:56] <Daviey> \o/
[16:57] <SpamapS> yah, hooray for zentyal!
[16:57] <Daviey> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:57] <Daviey> Tuesday 2012-03-27 at 1600 UTC
[16:57] <Daviey> #endmeeting
[16:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 16:57:31 2012 UTC.
[16:57] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-20-16.05.moin.txt
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:01] <ogasawara> o/
[17:01] <apw> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:02] <ppisati> P/omap4: a new kernel (3.2.0-1409.12) is out - 3.2.11 topped with latest TI BSP.
[17:02] <ppisati> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html
[17:03] <ogasawara> || apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 4 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 1 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 3 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <apw> :)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)
[17:04] <cking> nothing to report this week
[17:04] <cking> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> We intend to uploaded the 3.2.0-19.31 kernel today.  This upload
[17:04] <ogasawara> contains a rebase to v3.2.12, disables CONFIG_DRM_PSB_CDV, and provides
[17:04] <ogasawara> a necessary fix for pre-core99 UP machines which then allows us to
[17:04] <ogasawara> proceed with removing the non-smp PowerPC flavor.  This will be the last
[17:04] <ogasawara> upload prior to Beta-2 Freeze this Thurs, March 22.  Any uploads after
[17:04] <ogasawara> that are subject to approval of the release team.  Beta-2 is next Thurs,
[17:04] <ogasawara> Mar 29.
[17:04] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Mar 22 - Beta-2 Freeze (~2 days)
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Mar 29 - Beta-2 (~1 week)
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:04] <apw> Currently we have 72 CVEs on our radar, with one new CVE added this week.
[17:04] <apw> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:04] <apw>  
[17:04] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:04] <apw>  
[17:04] <apw> Broadly the backlog is unchanged this week:
[17:04] <apw>  
[17:04] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:04] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:04] <apw>  
[17:04] <apw> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Mar. 06):
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf>  * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.100 - Regression testing; A single CVE.
[17:05] <bjf>  * Lucid    - 2.6.32-40.87  - Ready for -updates; CVEs, eCryptfs, NFSv4, block, and other misc. fixes.
[17:05] <bjf>  * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.67  - Ready for -updates; A single CVE.
[17:05] <bjf>  * Natty    - 2.6.38-13.57  - Ready for -updates; CVEs, eCryptfs and some other fixes.
[17:05] <bjf>  * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-16.29   - Regression testing; CVEs and 3 stable upstream releases.
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:05] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:05] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:05] <bjf>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock
[17:05] <bjf> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:06:03 2012 UTC.
[17:06] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-20-17.00.moin.txt
[17:06] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-20-17.00.html
[17:06] <cking> blink and it's over
[17:06] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[17:06] <cking> jsalisbury, thanks for running the meeting
[17:09] <brendand> Daviey, looks like bug 960311 is happening with Oneiric too
[17:09] <brendand> wrong room
[19:59] <czajkowski> greg-g: itnet7 huats xdatap1
[20:00]  * greg-g waves
[20:00] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: aloha
[20:01] <xdatap1> hello everybody
[20:01] <greg-g> Hello there everyone, lets get the LoCo Council meeting started!
[20:01] <greg-g> #startmeeting
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[20:01] <czajkowski> thelinuxer: ping
[20:01] <thelinuxer> hi czajkowski
[20:02] <greg-g> We only have one thing on the agenda today, and that is the approval of the Egyptian LoCo
[20:02] <greg-g> hi thelinuxer
[20:02] <czajkowski> anyone else here from the team
[20:02] <thelinuxer> hi greg-g
[20:02] <huats> hello
[20:02] <greg-g> do you mind doing a quick introduction of the Egyptian LoCo?
[20:02] <thelinuxer> yes ashams MohamedAlaa98
[20:02] <thelinuxer> greg-g: of course
[20:02] <greg-g> #topic Egypt LoCo Approval
[20:02] <thelinuxer> the team started to be really active almost 2 years ago
[20:02] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication
[20:02] <SergioMeneses> hi guys
[20:03] <thelinuxer> we made our main objective to introduce more people to free software
[20:03] <thelinuxer> and we decided that ubuntu was the right way to go
[20:03] <greg-g> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication
[20:03] <thelinuxer> we had several install fests
[20:03] <thelinuxer> workshops
[20:03] <thelinuxer> and of course we do support on our different channels, IRC, Faceboook ...etc
[20:03] <greg-g> there was a choice? :)
[20:03] <SergioMeneses> thelinuxer, nice pictures!
[20:03] <greg-g> (of Ubuntu vs ???) ;)
[20:04] <thelinuxer> SergioMeneses: thanks check out more on facebook
[20:04] <czajkowski> lovely application folks well done
[20:04] <czajkowski> does make things a lot easier!
[20:04] <thelinuxer> czajkowski: thanks
[20:04] <thelinuxer> yes we had a choice :)
[20:04] <SergioMeneses> they have a good number of ubuntu members
[20:04] <thelinuxer> but ubuntu was winning in every way :)
[20:04] <itnet7> Very concise, I really enjoyed reading about what the Egypt team has been doing
[20:04] <greg-g> thelinuxer: :) I know I know, we all do. I'm not always serious in meetings :)
[20:05] <thelinuxer> itnet7: thanks :)
[20:05] <thelinuxer> are there any questions ?
[20:05] <czajkowski> yup
[20:05] <czajkowski> thelinuxer: so tell us how things are done in your tema
[20:05] <czajkowski> *team
[20:06] <czajkowski> how do you organise events?
[20:06] <czajkowski> any issues you've come across and how you've delt with them
[20:06] <thelinuxer> yes of course there are always issues with venues
[20:06] <thelinuxer> but most of this is solved because we have so many active members in different universities
[20:06] <thelinuxer> which is really a good place for our events
[20:07] <czajkowski> nods
[20:07] <czajkowski> true
[20:07]  * greg-g nods to issues associated with venues
[20:07] <thelinuxer> mostly to organize an event we set a date for it like a week after the release date
[20:07] <thelinuxer> then we start to search for an appropriate venues
[20:07]  * greg-g nods
[20:07] <SergioMeneses> thelinuxer, I like the new structure, it's working now?
[20:07] <thelinuxer> we start calling for volunteers for the help desk activities and FAQs and giving presentations
[20:08] <thelinuxer> we are actually test driving it right now
[20:08] <thelinuxer> some bugs have been reported on launchpad
[20:08] <thelinuxer> but it's not 100% active
[20:08] <thelinuxer> still some rough edges :)
[20:09] <SergioMeneses> thelinuxer, ok!...
[20:09] <thelinuxer> SergioMeneses: :)
[20:09] <czajkowski> you do seem very active my only concern is many members being from unis, will they still be involved once they finish and how to get non uni folks invovled
[20:09] <thelinuxer> we are trying our best, but the fact is if we get for students involved then this technology choice would adopted by companies
[20:10] <thelinuxer> and hence we can make real change
[20:10] <czajkowski> great stuf
[20:10] <czajkowski> I've no other questions
[20:10] <thelinuxer> we also have a couple of members who has graduated and they are still active
[20:10] <xdatap1> thelinuxer, I like the idea of an orientation session. Could you tell us more about it. How do it works? Is it online or face-face activity?
[20:10] <itnet7> Definitely true thelinuxer
[20:10] <greg-g> very good.
[20:10] <thelinuxer> xdatap1: sure
[20:10] <czajkowski> I will say I'm not gone on the use of n00b would perfer to see the word new user. but that's my only comment
[20:11] <greg-g> #voters czajkowski itnet7 huats greg-g xdatap1
[20:11] <meetingology> Current voters: czajkowski greg-g huats itnet7 xdatap1
[20:11] <thelinuxer> czajkowski: sure we can think about another geeky term :)
[20:11] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, I'm agree
[20:11] <greg-g> agreed re "n00b" :)
[20:11] <greg-g> alright, I think we ready to vote!
[20:11] <xdatap1> greg-g, wait, I asked a question
[20:11] <greg-g> ah, yes, please do
[20:11] <thelinuxer> xdatap1: the session should includedfull details about how the team works
[20:11] <thelinuxer> and what's the different activities people can get involved in
[20:12] <thelinuxer> if it's offline then it would be a normal presentation so the new folks would meet the team
[20:12] <thelinuxer> and if online we can use IRC, Google+ or whatever platform we choose
[20:12] <thelinuxer> )done answering the question :
[20:12] <thelinuxer> :)*
[20:12] <greg-g> :)
[20:12] <xdatap1> thelinuxer, thanks, it's a nice idea, congrats
[20:13] <greg-g> any other questions? I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Hard to read people's faces over IRC :)
[20:13] <thelinuxer> xdatap1: thank you very much
[20:13] <itnet7> good here
[20:13] <xdatap1> thelinuxer, last info, just a curiosity
[20:14] <thelinuxer> xdatap1: please do
[20:14] <xdatap1> thelinuxer, egypt is a very big country. Where are from most of the members? Are them mainly from big cities or do you have people from all around?
[20:14] <thelinuxer> i am happy you asked that
[20:14] <thelinuxer> our biggest governorates are Alexandria and Cairo
[20:14] <thelinuxer> a great number of members are from these 2
[20:15] <thelinuxer> but also there is a small governorate called Mansoura
[20:15] <thelinuxer> some people from Mansoura joined the team
[20:15] <thelinuxer> and one of our very active members is originally from Mansoura
[20:15]  * xdatap1 checking the map :)
[20:15] <thelinuxer> they are planning to start a team there but it hasn't been officially on
[20:16] <thelinuxer> and they were the ones who gave us a chance to participate in OSDay in Mansoura
[20:16] <xdatap1> cool! Thanks thelinuxer!
[20:16] <thelinuxer> xdatap1: yw :)
[20:16] <greg-g> awesome
[20:17] <xdatap1> greg-g, I'm ready to vote
[20:17] <greg-g> alrighty, I think we're all ready then
[20:17] <greg-g> #vote Egypt LoCo Approval
[20:17] <meetingology> Please vote on: Egypt LoCo Approval
[20:17] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:17] <greg-g> +1
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g
[20:17] <itnet7> +1
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:17] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:17] <xdatap1> +1 keep up the good work
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work received from xdatap1
[20:18] <czajkowski> +1 well done
[20:18] <meetingology> +1 well done received from czajkowski
[20:18] <paultag> 20:11 < greg-g> #voters czajkowski itnet7 huats greg-g xdatap1
[20:18] <paultag> you missed SergioMeneses
[20:18] <huats> +1
[20:18] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:18] <huats> great work
[20:18] <greg-g> whoops!
[20:18] <paultag> :)
[20:18] <greg-g> #endvote
[20:18] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Egypt LoCo Approval
[20:18] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:18] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:18] <huats> I realy like the  application
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> I see
[20:18] <thelinuxer> thanks everyone :)
[20:18] <xdatap1> congratulation thelinuxer !
[20:18] <greg-g> oh well, Egypt still was approved without SergioMeneses' vote :)
[20:18] <thelinuxer> huats: that's Menopia's work our designer :)
[20:18] <Menopia> thanks everyone :)
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> greg-g, :D
[20:19] <greg-g> great job thelinuxer and everyone else in the Egypt team
[20:19] <itnet7> Awesome job, way to go!!
[20:19] <greg-g> SergioMeneses: my apologies, my second faux pas during the meeting ;)
[20:19] <thelinuxer> Thanks again I will go spread the news :)
[20:19] <czajkowski> well done folks
[20:19] <SergioMeneses> thelinuxer, congratulations
[20:19] <greg-g> is there any other business for this LoCo Council meeting?
[20:19] <SergioMeneses> greg-g, don't worry!
[20:19] <czajkowski> and again if you could use another word for n00b like new user that would be best
[20:19] <greg-g> #topic AOB
[20:19] <thelinuxer> SergioMeneses: thanks :)
[20:19] <czajkowski> we have a new wiki page created
[20:19] <czajkowski> for approval/re approval process
[20:20] <thelinuxer> czajkowski: we will reconsider the names for sure
[20:20] <czajkowski> it would be good to get that out there and possibly ask for translations
[20:20] <czajkowski> so we need to A) update our wiki page
[20:20] <greg-g> #topic approval/reapproval process
[20:20] <czajkowski> b) post to loco contacts
[20:20] <czajkowski> c) add to a blog
[20:20] <czajkowski> d) translate
[20:21] <greg-g> alright, who wants to edit the wiki and who can do the announcements?
[20:21] <xdatap1> czajkowski, +1 it looks like a good plan
[20:22] <czajkowski> it's basically copy n paste from sergio and pop into our wiki
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> we have to chage this page too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines
[20:23] <greg-g> so, just that page and this one, right https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval ?
[20:23] <greg-g> SergioMeneses: mind updating the wiki sense you have the wiki text, right?
[20:23] <czajkowski> yes
[20:23] <greg-g> s/sense/since/
[20:23] <czajkowski> which does make sense
[20:23] <czajkowski> :)
[20:24] <greg-g> #action SergioMeneses to update LoCo Council wiki pages with updated text
[20:24] <meetingology> ACTION: SergioMeneses to update LoCo Council wiki pages with updated text
[20:24] <greg-g> thanks SergioMeneses  ;)
[20:24] <SergioMeneses> greg-g, jaja
[20:24] <SergioMeneses> oks
[20:24] <xdatap1> thanks SergioMeneses  :)
[20:24] <czajkowski> once there're done I can ask dpm to get the translations in order
[20:24] <greg-g> alright, blogger, anyone want to blog? I can if no one else does
[20:24] <greg-g> czajkowski: cool, thanks
[20:25] <czajkowski> greg-g: I'll add it to the loco council blog
[20:25] <greg-g> #action czajkowski to ask dpm for translation help
[20:25] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski to ask dpm for translation help
[20:25] <czajkowski> once I find my login
[20:25] <czajkowski> :)
[20:25] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, :D
[20:25] <greg-g> #action czajkowski will add the announcement to the Council blog
[20:25] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski will add the announcement to the Council blog
[20:25] <greg-g> czajkowski: do you want me to write a quick "Here's our updated policy..." post you can copy paste?
[20:27] <greg-g> "sure"
[20:27] <greg-g> #action greg-g to write a quick post re the updated policy document
[20:27] <meetingology> ACTION: greg-g to write a quick post re the updated policy document
[20:27] <greg-g> I think that's it for that topic
[20:27] <greg-g> anything else?
[20:27] <YoBoY> can I suggest you to keep the list of the LC members on a separate page to let translator include this list and not "translate it" ? it can help to keep all the page updated
[20:28] <greg-g> YoBoY: yeah, not sure why we're listed there, honestly. It might be an <<include>>'d page anyway
[20:28] <xdatap1> we can keep them in a separate page and then include it
[20:28] <greg-g> (oh, its not)
[20:28] <czajkowski> greg-g: sure :)
[20:28] <YoBoY> greg-g: there or on other pages. can be usefull on lot of other pages :)
[20:28] <SergioMeneses> the list is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil
[20:29] <greg-g> xdatap1: mind doing that? making it a separate page that we include where appropriate?
[20:29] <xdatap1> I can fix it, no problem
[20:29] <greg-g> cool, thanks
[20:29] <greg-g> #action xdatap1 to separate out the list of Council members to separate page and <<include>> where appropriate
[20:29] <meetingology> ACTION: xdatap1 to separate out the list of Council members to separate page and <<include>> where appropriate
[20:30] <greg-g> anything else?
[20:30] <greg-g> going once...
[20:30] <SergioMeneses> greg-g, continue
[20:31] <greg-g> going twice
[20:31] <greg-g> going a third time... :)
[20:31] <greg-g> alright, thanks everyone for showing up!
[20:31] <itnet7> :-)
[20:31] <czajkowski> nope all good
[20:31] <czajkowski> thanks greg-g
[20:31] <greg-g> have a great rest of the day!
[20:31] <greg-g> #endmeeting
[20:31] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 20:31:48 2012 UTC.
[20:31] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-20-20.01.moin.txt
[20:31] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-20-20.01.html
[20:31] <czajkowski> greg-g: update the wiki and the team report :)
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> greg-g, great work!
[20:31] <xdatap1> thanks everybody!
[20:32] <greg-g> czajkowski: sorry, no more #actions can be added :P
[20:32] <greg-g> czajkowski: will do. :) Mind if it waits until tomorrow?
[20:32] <czajkowski> nope no worries