[02:02] <cjwatson> skaet: do you know why bug 901741 refuses to vanish from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-p-tracking-bugs.html?  I untagged it nearly a week ago.
[02:02] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 901741 in debsums "perl-modules lucid->precise upgrade failure: debsums is noisy when Perl-related packages are inconsistent" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901741
[02:02]  * skaet looking
[02:04] <skaet> cjwatson,  that's weird.  yeah it shouldn't be there.
[02:05] <skaet> I'll work with bjf on it tomorrow to see if we can figure out, what could be happening... weird.
[02:05] <cjwatson> thanks
[03:01] <ScottK> cjwatson: I screwed up and accepted libzip2 binaries into Universe.  Would you please promote them?
[03:01] <ScottK> (or maybe slangasek)
[03:01] <infinity> ScottK: I can.
[03:01] <ScottK> infinity: Yes.  Please.
[03:02] <infinity> ScottK: Err, which source package?
[03:02] <ScottK> libzip
[03:02] <infinity> Oh, SOVER bump.  Yeah.  On it.
[03:02] <ScottK> Thanks.
[03:03] <ScottK> I've got all the rdepends ready to upload.
[03:04] <infinity> Sadly, we just missed the publisher while talking.
[03:04] <infinity> But it'll resolve in the :33 run.  If there is a :33 run. :P
[03:05] <infinity> ScottK: Committed.
[03:05] <ScottK> Thanks.
[03:05] <ScottK> All but one are in Universe, so it's not so bad.
[03:06] <infinity> We have this source package in main for exactly one rdep?
[03:06] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:06] <infinity> That seems suboptimal.
[03:06] <ScottK> Which is in main for one rdep.
[03:07]  * ScottK just uploaded the lot.
[03:07] <ScottK> I'll retry the main one after the promotion is done.
[03:07] <infinity> Erm.
[03:07] <ScottK> It ends up losing some data formats from okular if it's not there.
[03:08] <infinity> Oh, just a confused tool.
[03:08] <infinity> I saw the rbuild-dep, but no binary dep.
[03:08] <infinity> But there it is.
[03:08] <infinity> Just our checkrdeps tool confused because libzip1 is no longer related to libzip.
[03:10] <infinity> ScottK: I might actually have to give Kubuntu a spin sometime.
[03:11] <ScottK> Some people seem to like it.
[03:11] <ScottK> Come on over.
[03:11] <ScottK> The water is fine.
[03:11] <infinity> ScottK: I was doing KDE installer testing/fixing today, probably the first time I've genuinely looked at KDE in almost a decade.  It's kinda shiny.
[03:11] <ScottK> :-)
[03:12] <infinity> How well does it do at theming GTK+ apps to not look like crap?
[03:15] <ScottK> Pretty good.
[03:15] <ScottK> Better with gtk2 than gtk3 at tihs point, but that's coming along.
[03:15] <infinity> That's okay, I have no GTK3 theming at all on my Xubuntu desktop right now. :P
[03:16] <infinity> (My own fault, because I'm using the old GTK2 Human theme, but yeah.  Ugly square grey buttons in evince, FTL)
[03:16] <ScottK> Okular is one of the best KDE apps.  You won't need to worry about Evince.
[03:17] <infinity> I really need to find a round tuit to port Human to GTK3 and sneak it into precise.
[03:17] <infinity> ScottK: Oh, I assume I don't need to worry about GTK apps much in general, but there's always the one or two.
[03:17] <ScottK> Yes.  You'll still want FF/Chromium and LO if you use an office suite.
[03:18] <ScottK> Maybe Gimp.
[03:18] <ScottK> Other than that, I use all KDE stuff.
[03:19] <infinity> Well, Chromium never looks right on Ubuntu anyway.
[03:19] <infinity> But we do put some solid effort into making Mozilla apps play nicely and fit in.
[03:21] <ScottK> We had a very nice set of KDE patches for FF, but they've been dropped for LTS due to too much trouble with the new Mozilla rapid release process.
[03:22] <ScottK> I've uploaded enough stuff to guarantee a :33 publisher run.
[03:32] <infinity> ScottK: It's not about enough stuff being uploaded, but if the :03 run takes more then 30 minutes.
[03:32] <ScottK> Oh.
[03:32] <ScottK> Well there's also the no uploads option.
[03:32] <infinity> s/then/than/
[03:33] <infinity> ScottK: Looks like a :33 run is happening.
[03:33] <ScottK> Great.
[03:33] <ScottK> When do they normally finish?
[03:33] <infinity> Anywhere between 15 and 30 minutes.
[03:34] <ScottK> In the good old days, I remember it was start at :03 and finish :44 - :47.
[03:34] <ScottK> Thanks.
[03:40] <ScottK> I need to do a better job of getting you engrained in the list of archive admins that live to the west of me.
[03:41] <infinity> I'm probably more accurate described as the archive admin that doesn't sleep.
[03:43] <ScottK> That too.
[03:43] <ScottK> Then there's pitti, who is generally well east of me, but gets up early, so we often overlap before I go to bed.
[03:45] <ScottK> So I'm looking at libzip2_0.10-1_i386.deb in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libz/libzip/ and yet the package still fails because it's not there?
[03:45] <ScottK> Is there a better place to tell which it's shown up and is available to build with?
[03:46] <infinity> Packages.gz
[03:46] <infinity> Pool location is largely irrelevant, and often a strange lie for packages with main/universe splits.
[03:47] <micahg> there's rmadison output as well
[03:47] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[03:47] <infinity> rmadison is just Packages.gz with a nice wrapper. :P
[03:47] <infinity> (And a bit of lag)
[03:47] <infinity> ScottK: I could just tell you when the publisher's done.
[03:48] <infinity> ScottK: Since all you care about is ftpmaster, not archive (archive being a mirror and all)
[03:48] <ScottK> That would work too.
[03:48] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:48] <ScottK> Right, but if archive is good, the ftpmaster should be as well.
[03:48] <infinity> True.
[03:50] <ajmitch> once that's published, that could fix a couple more haskell packages as well :)
[03:50] <micahg> right, which is why I mentioned it to fabo in the first place ;)
[03:51] <ajmitch> aha
[03:51] <infinity> ScottK: Should be good to go now.
[03:53] <ScottK> OK.
[03:53]  * ScottK mashes retry
[03:54] <ScottK> Thanks.  All mashed.
[08:37] <Riddell> a video driver uploaded presumably for universe with "All Rights Reserved" in the copyright file, should I reject on the grounds that means we have no copying licence at all?
[08:52] <Laney> ScottK: oh, you took the libzip SONAME bump — that means haskell-libzip is saved!
[10:01] <Riddell> ubuntu-sru: bug 901959 is over 4 weeks old
[10:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 901959 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Clipping in libreoffice welcome screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901959
[10:56] <ScottK> Riddell: Does it have a free license otherwise?
[10:57] <Riddell> ScottK: no
[10:57] <Riddell> I assume it's for rejected but jani asked for it to be rejected while he worked on the copying file
[10:58] <Riddell> s/rejected/restricted/  similar works :)
[10:58] <ScottK> Agree, it should be rejected.
[10:59] <ScottK> "All rights reserved" seems to get interpreted as "All other rights reserved" if there's a free license, but you've got to have that ...
[10:59] <ScottK> Even for restricted it's got to be distributable.
[11:16] <knome> cjwatson, you around?
[12:17] <brendand> Daviey, i think beta1 has boned the network card on one of our servers :(
[12:20] <brendand> but i need to check with the lab engineer to make sure it's not something more obvious (like unpluggies)
[12:25] <Daviey> brendand: eeek
[12:25] <Daviey> brendand: dmesg have anything of interest ?
[12:27] <brendand> eth0: link is not ready
[12:27] <brendand> ?
[12:28] <brendand> and
[12:28] <brendand> eth0: No IPv6 routers present
[12:29] <brendand> Daviey, in ifconfig it is an inet6 addr only
[12:32] <Daviey> brendand: nothing earlier in the dmesg?
[12:32] <Daviey> brendand: I'm expecting missing firmware or something, in which case - it's a kernel bug.
[12:34] <brendand> there is a missing firmware message, but i don't know for sure it's for the network card
[12:35] <brendand> err, not missing firmware
[12:35] <brendand> vpd r/w failed?
[12:35] <brendand> let me see if i can get the log to you
[12:37] <Daviey> brendand: See if you can pastebin the whole dmesg
[12:40] <cjwatson> knome: yes, now
[13:34] <knome> cjwatson, https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/debian-cd/xubuntu-logo-precise/+merge/98396
[13:35] <cjwatson> right, saw that in mail, thanks
[13:35] <knome> great :)
[13:42] <brendand> Daviey - i can't get anything off the server right now (unless there's a feature of this Raritan KVM i don't know about)
[13:42] <brendand> Daviey, no network access
[13:49] <Daviey> brendand: no serial console?
[13:49] <brendand> Daviey, not that i know of...
[13:49]  * brendand checks
[13:51] <brendand> Daviey, the IS page claims there's one but i can't access it
[15:07] <brendand> Daviey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/892292/
[15:10] <Daviey> brendand: thanks :)
[15:12] <Daviey> brendand: yeah, looks like a kernel issue.. can i ask you to raise a bug and throw this on there.. I'll follow it up with the kernel folks.
[15:12] <brendand> Daviey, oh cool. what gave it away?
[15:14] <Daviey> brendand: tg3 0000:01:00.0: vpd r/w failed.  This is likely a firmware bug on this device.  Contact the card vendor for a firmware update. ... tg3 is a broadcom network adapter.
[15:15] <Daviey> I find it hard to believe that the newer kernel requires a firmware update, which makes me think something in the kernel is doing something wrong.
[15:15] <Daviey> If i knew what the something's were, i'd be happy :)
[15:36] <slangasek> Riddell: "all rights reserved" is a standard statement that copyright exists and is orthogonal to the license; so seeing that doesn't necessarily mean it will be bound for restricted afterwards, though of course we need debian/copyright to reflect whatever license we actually have
[15:39] <brendand> Daviey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/960311
[15:39] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 960311 in linux "Networking on Dell PowerEdge R300 with Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express is not functional" [Undecided,New]
[15:41] <Daviey> brendand: thanks
[15:42] <brendand> Daviey, i'd get all the logs i could but apport isn't installed and obviously i can't install it myself
[15:42] <Daviey> brendand: groovy!
[15:45] <knome> doko, i'm not sure if this could be related, but i heard another guy had problems with wireless in the daily builds too, but he confirmed it was only under vbox...
[15:45] <knome> Daviey, ^ even
[15:54] <Daviey> knome: wireless in vbox? :o
[16:47] <greyback> Hi guys, a UIFe request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/960194
[16:47] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 960194 in unity-2d "[UIFe] Use average color of wallpaper to tint launcher/dash/panel/hud" [Low,Confirmed]
[16:48] <skaet> cjwatson,  901741 no longer showing up in the list.   Seems we have a problem in the code that tracks bugs rather than querying to launchpad.  Full regeneration of the table, pulling the information directly from launchpad sorted it.
[16:49] <cjwatson> skaet: neat, thanks - might this recur for other bugs then?
[16:50] <skaet> cjwatson,  unfortunately yes,  we probably need bdmurray to look at the code a bit.   If you spot another one,  flag it to him as well.
[17:09] <brendand> Daviey, looks like bug 960311 is happening with Oneiric too
[17:09] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 960311 in linux "Networking on Dell PowerEdge R300 with Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express is not functional" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960311
[17:10] <brendand> Daviey, i reckon the firmware got updated on that system recently (i wasn't aware it was though)
[17:10] <brendand> Daviey, so if this is a bug it could have been around for a while
[17:13] <brendand> Daviey, i added a comment. got to go now but i'll make sure to test with the daily image tomorrow and try and get someone to install the upstream kernel for me
[18:49] <cyphermox> hey, I know it's getting quite late for this, but if someone could review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/960494 ; there's two changes in NM especially which make me uncertain to upload NM 0.9.4.0 as just bugfix
[18:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 960494 in network-manager "[FFe] update to NetworkManager 0.9.4.0" [Undecided,New]
[18:50] <cyphermox> Also, in that bug I'm mentioning "will be released by March 23", because it's supposed to be released today or tomorrow, and definitely before the end of the week as the upstream lead developer will be on vacation after that
[20:11] <infinity> cyphermox: Commented.
[20:40] <cyphermox> infinity: thanks; yeah, I'm making sure of that right now
[20:41] <cyphermox> I suspect there might still be some additional changes but they are supposed to be just bugfix; upstream is aware of our schedules and also commented on the "it's too late for features now"
[20:42] <cyphermox> the ipv6 things they just landed just work on what's already applied; partly because the person who wanted these changes are submitted the patch keeps bugging me and dcbw to land them in Ubuntu :)
[21:43] <ScottK> psycopg2 and pymilter both have binary renames and are in New for i386 only (FFe approved).  Since there's archive skew until they are out, I'd appreciate it if someone would have a look.
[21:55] <knome> cjwatson, can we expect the new logo appear on debian-cd now?
[21:59] <cjwatson> knome: yes, any builds after I set that bug to Fix Released will have it
[21:59] <knome> cjwatson, which bug? :) #955396 is pending on other stuff too
[22:00] <cjwatson> er I mean since the merge proposal went to Merged
[22:00] <knome> hehe, okay, thanks :)
[22:00] <knome> as i thought, just wanted to make sure that's it
[22:40] <infinity> ScottK: Done.
[22:40] <ScottK> infinity: thanks
[22:42] <infinity> zul: "* New upstream release" is nowhere near enough of a changelog for a package that introduces new binary packages.
[22:59] <ScottK> Let me guess.  No FFe?