| jrgifford | thafreak: sporadically. | 01:47 |
|---|---|---|
| * canthus13 needs to figure out how to fix this odd little bit of bar at the top of his screen where the gnome 3 clock would normally be if mint didn't move it to a more logical location. | 01:48 | |
| Cheri703 | anyone have recent (SY0-301) COMPTIA Security+ study materials? I want to study for it, but can't use e-reader at work, and don't want to buy brand new expensive book and never use it again. I would love a loan, but would purchase if the price was right :) | 03:45 |
| Cheri703 | (I may post this to the mailing list as well) | 03:45 |
| canthus13 | I've got the older one from MS... which is surprisingly good. | 03:53 |
| Cheri703 | the sy0-201? | 03:53 |
| canthus13 | mmm... lemme look. | 03:53 |
| Cheri703 | was updated in 2011 | 03:54 |
| canthus13 | not sure.. I'll have to track it down. It may be packed in a box. | 03:54 |
| canthus13 | it's way older than that. | 03:54 |
| Cheri703 | ok | 03:54 |
| Cheri703 | I'd like to take it, but I am frustrated by lack of opportunities to poke at the information. at home I have so much crap I am and should be doing | 03:55 |
| Cheri703 | I HAVE SO MUCH I SHOULD BE DOING | 03:55 |
| Cheri703 | how much of my to do list got done on my 2 days off? about 4 things...out of A WHOLE BUNCH | 03:56 |
| canthus13 | :/ | 03:58 |
| Cheri703 | but I did get a few newly added things done, but basic stuff like laundry and housework didn't get done :s which...laundry needs to get done | 03:58 |
| * Cheri703 is not the best about prioritizing housework | 03:58 | |
| Cheri703 | oh! and my mom's phone is going to get shipped to her tomorrow :) after over 2 weeks | 03:59 |
| Cheri703 | I've gotten it all set up for her | 03:59 |
| canthus13 | Awesome. :) | 04:00 |
| Cheri703 | she's super excited | 04:00 |
| Cheri703 | she has even had days where she was like, "that would have been easier with my phone" which...for someone who was really reluctant to even want it, is pretty cool | 04:00 |
| * canthus13 nods. | 04:03 | |
| Cheri703 | canthus13: are you / wife / other people in household good about housework or are you like me where you tend to ignore until impossible? | 04:03 |
| * Cheri703 found a website that is kind of awesome | 04:03 | |
| canthus13 | We suck at housework. :P | 04:13 |
| Cheri703 | canthus13: check out www.unf--kyourhabitat.tumblr.com but fill in the blanks (family friendly irc room and all) | 04:37 |
| canthus13 | nice... | 04:38 |
| Cheri703 | it is kind of like flylady but with cursing and less annoying :) | 04:38 |
| canthus13 | Kit used to do flylady. | 04:40 |
| Cheri703 | I find this more motivating and less "aww, stay at home mom with kids and aren't you precious" like flylady comes off | 04:41 |
| canthus13 | Heh. | 04:41 |
| BiosElement | Hey folks, how's it going? | 04:58 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: Oh... a noob! | 04:59 |
| canthus13 | :) | 04:59 |
| BiosElement | haha not quite. ;) | 04:59 |
| Cheri703 | o/ BiosElement | 05:00 |
| BiosElement | I wonder if anyone will believe I was simply being lazy and not bothering to setup IRC rather then avoiding it >.> | 05:00 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: that's a sad excuse. | 05:01 |
| Cheri703 | I've been there BiosElement | 05:01 |
| canthus13 | apt-get install irssi; irssi; /connect irc.freenode.net; /msg nickserv identify <password>; /join #ubuntu-us-oh; | 05:01 |
| BiosElement | Yes, it is pretty sad. >.> | 05:01 |
| canthus13 | how hard was that? | 05:02 |
| BiosElement | Too hard, almost as hard as getting ubuntu to play nice with my setup. >.> | 05:03 |
| canthus13 | Heh. | 05:03 |
| * canthus13 switched to Mint. | 05:03 | |
| BiosElement | Ugh, I'm sorry for your loss. I still refuse to touch them as a matter of policy. | 05:05 |
| Cheri703 | I finally switched to 11.10 about a month ago | 05:05 |
| Cheri703 | been using 10.10 | 05:05 |
| * canthus13 installed Mint 12 from 10.10. | 05:05 | |
| canthus13 | much, much nicer than that unity crap. :) | 05:05 |
| BiosElement | I refuse to touch mint after their little firefox ad stunt. | 05:06 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: Eh? | 05:06 |
| * canthus13 hasn't used firefox for much in a while. | 05:06 | |
| BiosElement | A year ago, not sure if they still do, they changed the adverts to Mint ads from the firefox's. Which is actually in violation of the firefox trademarks >.< | 05:07 |
| canthus13 | starting with 7, it decided to tell every site it touched that my laptop was a cell phone.. I always got the WAP version if it was available. :/ | 05:07 |
| canthus13 | It does. | 05:07 |
| canthus13 | It sets the homepage to a mint page. | 05:07 |
| * canthus13 doesn't really care that much. Firefox is too.. screwed up? for him to bother with right now. | 05:08 | |
| BiosElement | I'm a chrome fan myself anymore, but honestly it just feels wrong with how they did that. It's not a plugin btw, they modified the source. It took me hours to figure that out. | 05:09 |
| canthus13 | Source? | 05:10 |
| canthus13 | Looks to me like they just set the homepage to their search page... and set the default search engine to duck-duck-go. | 05:11 |
| BiosElement | At least last time I tried it, it was far more invasive. | 05:11 |
| BiosElement | Like I said, I haven't tried it since but I know they're quite 'proud' of that setup of theirs. :| | 05:11 |
| canthus13 | Iunno. I'm really liking what they've done with gnome 3 (once you remove the bottom bar and that silly menu...) | 05:11 |
| BiosElement | Unity is actually growing on me. Used kde for a couple years, win7 for a time, back to ubuntu with unity and it's not half bad. | 05:12 |
| canthus13 | Unity is (was?) too rigid and I find shuttleworth's 'vision' to be annoying, constrictive, and insulting. | 05:12 |
| BiosElement | It's still a PITA, but It's officially not in the way 24/7. | 05:13 |
| Chat5159 | Morning | 12:47 |
| === Chat5159 is now known as Sylord | ||
| thafreak | Morning Ohio | 13:44 |
| thafreak | Anyone ever try to use gnucash? | 16:05 |
| dzho | ages ago | 16:26 |
| Cheri703 | thafreak: I use it all the time, I really like it | 16:31 |
| Cheri703 | there's a bit of a learning curve for most people | 16:31 |
| thafreak | do you use invoicing? | 16:32 |
| Cheri703 | no, I use it for personal finances | 16:32 |
| thafreak | ah | 16:32 |
| Cheri703 | are you having a specific issue? | 16:32 |
| thafreak | so, when you deposit money, like to an account, where does it "come from"? | 16:32 |
| Cheri703 | Income: something | 16:33 |
| Cheri703 | everything has an in and an out, if is into checking, it is out of income | 16:33 |
| Cheri703 | or out of checking, into expense | 16:33 |
| thafreak | It's just weird, If I deposit a check, it wants to subtract that ammount from my accounts receivable, so my accounts receivable is negative | 16:33 |
| Cheri703 | so just change the "out" account | 16:33 |
| Cheri703 | make a "received payments" income category | 16:34 |
| Cheri703 | or something | 16:34 |
| thafreak | so your income account just keeps growing more and more negative then? | 16:34 |
| Cheri703 | no, it handles them differently, you can change the type of account | 16:34 |
| * canthus13 gave up on gnucash, went to Mint. | 16:34 | |
| Cheri703 | my income account does not show negative, because it understands it is an income account | 16:34 |
| Cheri703 | hang on | 16:34 |
| canthus13 | Mint has it's issues, but it's easy and overall pretty good. :) | 16:34 |
| thafreak | I think there's a setting to show some accounts as negative or not | 16:35 |
| Cheri703 | thafreak: if you go to the accounts page, right click on the one income account, and make sure it is set as an income account | 16:35 |
| * Cheri703 is opening gnucash to get correct terminology | 16:35 | |
| thafreak | well, I was having income come from accounts receivable from "invoices" | 16:36 |
| Cheri703 | what account type is accounts receivable? | 16:36 |
| thafreak | it's set to accounts receivable type...it's under assets instead of under income | 16:38 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...ok | 16:38 |
| thafreak | i think i just need to read up on the terminology then... | 16:38 |
| Cheri703 | I'm not sure about the accounts receivable type /me goes to check help file | 16:38 |
| canthus13 | A/R is considered an asset.. It's work already done, but you're still owed money for it. | 16:39 |
| thafreak | yup... | 16:40 |
| thafreak | nothing shows up there till you process a payment, and when you do that, it subtracts from A/R and puts it somewhere else | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | thafreak: if you go to help>tutorials and concept guide>accounts receivable | 16:41 |
| thafreak | so either I'm doing it wrong, or it's supposed to be like that | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | there is a section talking about how to set up the accounts, it does say you need an income section of "sales" | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | Basic A/R Account Hierarchy: | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | -Assets | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | -Checking | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | -Accounts Receivable | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | -Income | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | -Sales | 16:41 |
| thafreak | hmm | 16:41 |
| Cheri703 | and it goes from there on how to actually do it | 16:41 |
| thafreak | i have one...maybe I was doing it wrong then | 16:42 |
| Cheri703 | there is a "process payments" thing apparently | 16:42 |
| Cheri703 | go through the tutorial thing | 16:42 |
| Cheri703 | you set up customers, then you put in the payment info for the customer, and it has a "post to: accounts receivable" and "transfer account" which is where it is actually deposited | 16:43 |
| Cheri703 | so JUST manually putting in the deposit messes with stuff, if you are using a/r, then you're supposed to use this thing apparently | 16:43 |
| thafreak | yeah i did, but I was using checking as the transfer account, which was making A/R negative | 16:44 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...you had it posting to a/r? | 16:44 |
| thafreak | maybe I need to transfer to an income account...I'll make a test and see if it affects it | 16:44 |
| Cheri703 | their "process payment window" picture shows "post to: assets:a/r" and "transfer: assets:checking" so... | 16:45 |
| Cheri703 | I don't know why it would be doing that. if it shows as negative again, do a split on whatever is subtracting from a/r and see what it shows | 16:47 |
| thafreak | yeah, i dunno, it's odd | 16:47 |
| thafreak | can only transfer to an asset account, not an income account | 16:47 |
| Cheri703 | when you split, what does it show? | 16:51 |
| Cheri703 | it may be about how you set up the invoice | 16:52 |
| Cheri703 | when setting it up, you can choose an income account "which income account is credited with this income" | 16:52 |
| Cheri703 | so it might be a hiccup on the invoice side | 16:52 |
| Cheri703 | you might have put checking there | 16:52 |
| Cheri703 | that would explain the issue I think | 16:54 |
| Cheri703 | you may also have put a/r there | 16:54 |
| thafreak | OK!!! | 17:21 |
| thafreak | thanks to the #gnucash folks over at irc.gnome.org, I got it all figured out | 17:21 |
| thafreak | invoices need to be posted first | 17:21 |
| Cheri703 | makes sense, then it knows what it's working with | 17:22 |
| thafreak | it also puts stuff in the appropriate income account too | 17:22 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, that's what I was thinking when I saw the page about making invoices | 17:23 |
| thafreak | so, I'm lovin' gnucash, a helpful irc channel makes me love the community even more | 17:25 |
| paultag | hahaha | 17:25 |
| paultag | helpful irc is a rarity | 17:25 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, gnucash is awesome | 17:25 |
| paultag | I know this isn't f/oss-ey of me | 17:26 |
| paultag | but mint.com is badass | 17:26 |
| paultag | I use it like it's my job | 17:27 |
| Cheri703 | I don't like the stuff that imports directly from bank records, as the bank doesn't always label things quite right, and posting date =/= transaction date, and it screws me up "I didn't go to the gas station on thursday?!" | 17:28 |
| paultag | haha | 17:33 |
| canthus13 | paultag: I love Mint. :) | 17:37 |
| paultag | +1 | 17:37 |
| canthus13 | Cheri703: I keep enough of a cash buffer that having the posting dates off doesn't screw me up. | 17:37 |
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