[01:47] thafreak: sporadically. [01:48] * canthus13 needs to figure out how to fix this odd little bit of bar at the top of his screen where the gnome 3 clock would normally be if mint didn't move it to a more logical location. [03:45] anyone have recent (SY0-301) COMPTIA Security+ study materials? I want to study for it, but can't use e-reader at work, and don't want to buy brand new expensive book and never use it again. I would love a loan, but would purchase if the price was right :) [03:45] (I may post this to the mailing list as well) [03:53] I've got the older one from MS... which is surprisingly good. [03:53] the sy0-201? [03:53] mmm... lemme look. [03:54] was updated in 2011 [03:54] not sure.. I'll have to track it down. It may be packed in a box. [03:54] it's way older than that. [03:54] ok [03:55] I'd like to take it, but I am frustrated by lack of opportunities to poke at the information. at home I have so much crap I am and should be doing [03:55] I HAVE SO MUCH I SHOULD BE DOING [03:56] how much of my to do list got done on my 2 days off? about 4 things...out of A WHOLE BUNCH [03:58] :/ [03:58] but I did get a few newly added things done, but basic stuff like laundry and housework didn't get done :s which...laundry needs to get done [03:58] * Cheri703 is not the best about prioritizing housework [03:59] oh! and my mom's phone is going to get shipped to her tomorrow :) after over 2 weeks [03:59] I've gotten it all set up for her [04:00] Awesome. :) [04:00] she's super excited [04:00] she has even had days where she was like, "that would have been easier with my phone" which...for someone who was really reluctant to even want it, is pretty cool [04:03] * canthus13 nods. [04:03] canthus13: are you / wife / other people in household good about housework or are you like me where you tend to ignore until impossible? [04:03] * Cheri703 found a website that is kind of awesome [04:13] We suck at housework. :P [04:37] canthus13: check out www.unf--kyourhabitat.tumblr.com but fill in the blanks (family friendly irc room and all) [04:38] nice... [04:38] it is kind of like flylady but with cursing and less annoying :) [04:40] Kit used to do flylady. [04:41] I find this more motivating and less "aww, stay at home mom with kids and aren't you precious" like flylady comes off [04:41] Heh. [04:58] Hey folks, how's it going? [04:59] BiosElement: Oh... a noob! [04:59] :) [04:59] haha not quite. ;) [05:00] o/ BiosElement [05:00] I wonder if anyone will believe I was simply being lazy and not bothering to setup IRC rather then avoiding it >.> [05:01] BiosElement: that's a sad excuse. [05:01] I've been there BiosElement [05:01] apt-get install irssi; irssi; /connect irc.freenode.net; /msg nickserv identify ; /join #ubuntu-us-oh; [05:01] Yes, it is pretty sad. >.> [05:02] how hard was that? [05:03] Too hard, almost as hard as getting ubuntu to play nice with my setup. >.> [05:03] Heh. [05:03] * canthus13 switched to Mint. [05:05] Ugh, I'm sorry for your loss. I still refuse to touch them as a matter of policy. [05:05] I finally switched to 11.10 about a month ago [05:05] been using 10.10 [05:05] * canthus13 installed Mint 12 from 10.10. [05:05] much, much nicer than that unity crap. :) [05:06] I refuse to touch mint after their little firefox ad stunt. [05:06] BiosElement: Eh? [05:06] * canthus13 hasn't used firefox for much in a while. [05:07] A year ago, not sure if they still do, they changed the adverts to Mint ads from the firefox's. Which is actually in violation of the firefox trademarks >.< [05:07] starting with 7, it decided to tell every site it touched that my laptop was a cell phone.. I always got the WAP version if it was available. :/ [05:07] It does. [05:07] It sets the homepage to a mint page. [05:08] * canthus13 doesn't really care that much. Firefox is too.. screwed up? for him to bother with right now. [05:09] I'm a chrome fan myself anymore, but honestly it just feels wrong with how they did that. It's not a plugin btw, they modified the source. It took me hours to figure that out. [05:10] Source? [05:11] Looks to me like they just set the homepage to their search page... and set the default search engine to duck-duck-go. [05:11] At least last time I tried it, it was far more invasive. [05:11] Like I said, I haven't tried it since but I know they're quite 'proud' of that setup of theirs. :| [05:11] Iunno. I'm really liking what they've done with gnome 3 (once you remove the bottom bar and that silly menu...) [05:12] Unity is actually growing on me. Used kde for a couple years, win7 for a time, back to ubuntu with unity and it's not half bad. [05:12] Unity is (was?) too rigid and I find shuttleworth's 'vision' to be annoying, constrictive, and insulting. [05:13] It's still a PITA, but It's officially not in the way 24/7. [12:47] Morning === Chat5159 is now known as Sylord [13:44] Morning Ohio [16:05] Anyone ever try to use gnucash? [16:26] ages ago [16:31] thafreak: I use it all the time, I really like it [16:31] there's a bit of a learning curve for most people [16:32] do you use invoicing? [16:32] no, I use it for personal finances [16:32] ah [16:32] are you having a specific issue? [16:32] so, when you deposit money, like to an account, where does it "come from"? [16:33] Income: something [16:33] everything has an in and an out, if is into checking, it is out of income [16:33] or out of checking, into expense [16:33] It's just weird, If I deposit a check, it wants to subtract that ammount from my accounts receivable, so my accounts receivable is negative [16:33] so just change the "out" account [16:34] make a "received payments" income category [16:34] or something [16:34] so your income account just keeps growing more and more negative then? [16:34] no, it handles them differently, you can change the type of account [16:34] * canthus13 gave up on gnucash, went to Mint. [16:34] my income account does not show negative, because it understands it is an income account [16:34] hang on [16:34] Mint has it's issues, but it's easy and overall pretty good. :) [16:35] I think there's a setting to show some accounts as negative or not [16:35] thafreak: if you go to the accounts page, right click on the one income account, and make sure it is set as an income account [16:35] * Cheri703 is opening gnucash to get correct terminology [16:36] well, I was having income come from accounts receivable from "invoices" [16:36] what account type is accounts receivable? [16:38] it's set to accounts receivable type...it's under assets instead of under income [16:38] hmm...ok [16:38] i think i just need to read up on the terminology then... [16:38] I'm not sure about the accounts receivable type /me goes to check help file [16:39] A/R is considered an asset.. It's work already done, but you're still owed money for it. [16:40] yup... [16:41] nothing shows up there till you process a payment, and when you do that, it subtracts from A/R and puts it somewhere else [16:41] thafreak: if you go to help>tutorials and concept guide>accounts receivable [16:41] so either I'm doing it wrong, or it's supposed to be like that [16:41] there is a section talking about how to set up the accounts, it does say you need an income section of "sales" [16:41] Basic A/R Account Hierarchy: [16:41] -Assets [16:41] -Checking [16:41] -Accounts Receivable [16:41] -Income [16:41] -Sales [16:41] hmm [16:41] and it goes from there on how to actually do it [16:42] i have one...maybe I was doing it wrong then [16:42] there is a "process payments" thing apparently [16:42] go through the tutorial thing [16:43] you set up customers, then you put in the payment info for the customer, and it has a "post to: accounts receivable" and "transfer account" which is where it is actually deposited [16:43] so JUST manually putting in the deposit messes with stuff, if you are using a/r, then you're supposed to use this thing apparently [16:44] yeah i did, but I was using checking as the transfer account, which was making A/R negative [16:44] hmm...you had it posting to a/r? [16:44] maybe I need to transfer to an income account...I'll make a test and see if it affects it [16:45] their "process payment window" picture shows "post to: assets:a/r" and "transfer: assets:checking" so... [16:47] I don't know why it would be doing that. if it shows as negative again, do a split on whatever is subtracting from a/r and see what it shows [16:47] yeah, i dunno, it's odd [16:47] can only transfer to an asset account, not an income account [16:51] when you split, what does it show? [16:52] it may be about how you set up the invoice [16:52] when setting it up, you can choose an income account "which income account is credited with this income" [16:52] so it might be a hiccup on the invoice side [16:52] you might have put checking there [16:54] that would explain the issue I think [16:54] you may also have put a/r there [17:21] OK!!! [17:21] thanks to the #gnucash folks over at irc.gnome.org, I got it all figured out [17:21] invoices need to be posted first [17:22] makes sense, then it knows what it's working with [17:22] it also puts stuff in the appropriate income account too [17:23] yeah, that's what I was thinking when I saw the page about making invoices [17:25] so, I'm lovin' gnucash, a helpful irc channel makes me love the community even more [17:25] hahaha [17:25] helpful irc is a rarity [17:25] yeah, gnucash is awesome [17:26] I know this isn't f/oss-ey of me [17:26] but mint.com is badass [17:27] I use it like it's my job [17:28] I don't like the stuff that imports directly from bank records, as the bank doesn't always label things quite right, and posting date =/= transaction date, and it screws me up "I didn't go to the gas station on thursday?!" [17:33] haha [17:37] paultag: I love Mint. :) [17:37] +1 [17:37] Cheri703: I keep enough of a cash buffer that having the posting dates off doesn't screw me up.