[00:01] <bekor> hello anyone available for a question?
[00:01] <davide_at_debian> hi bekor , what's up
[00:02] <_Marcus> !ask | bekor
[00:03] <bekor> hi, i am wondering how to get rid of issues like not being able to shut some window applications sometime ,like the issue of not having an x or a minmize sign.i am using 11.10 and cairo dock
[00:04] <davide_at_debian> what program in particular?
[00:05] <bekor> well ok like for instance you have banshee running,you open the  equalizer and their is no way to shut it off
[00:06] <bekor> i mean closing the window
[00:06] <bekor> i have had to restart because of not seeing a way to close windows sometimes
[00:06] <davide_at_debian> well, alt+f4 is a general solution, but anyway for banshee in particular there could be an hidden close button.
[00:07] <davide_at_debian> Always, you can grep for the program's pid or issue a "pkill banshee" in extreme case
[00:07] <bekor> thanks dacide
[00:07] <bekor> i mean davide
[00:07] <nibbler_> davide_at_debian, bekor: xkill is the better choice for sure, if you see the window
[00:07] <AgamemnonZ> bekor: Was your main Banshee window maximized?
[00:08] <bekor> no i could not even maximize  by the way what is x kill?
[00:08] <bekor> what i am saying is how do i close it when i see no x?
[00:09] <davide_at_debian> run it on terminal.. you'll see skull & bones to kill windows
[00:09] <Dulak> bekor: alt-f4 with the window active is the same as the X
[00:09] <bekor> but why would i have to that is my point
[00:09] <ghostshadow_> hi
[00:10] <bekor> thanks dulak
[00:10] <dadf> xkill is pretty cool- and is built into almost everything
[00:10] <davide_at_debian> I don't know why you have too. maybe programs aren't made to be closed?
[00:10] <bekor> is anyone using the newest beta?are their less problems with closing windows?
[00:11] <CFHowlett_> bekor   for beta support go to #ubuntu+1
[00:11] <CFHowlett_> ghostshadow_   greetings
[00:11] <bekor> thanks friends
[00:11] <Viking667> I've got a question. I'm updating the xapian database, and it's taken about four hours so far...the machine is a laptop, and has 512Mb.
[00:12] <CFHowlett_> Viking667   what version of ubuntu
[00:12] <Viking667> 11.10
[00:12] <Viking667> ouch. I just realised the laptop's not running ubuntu...
[00:12] <Viking667> sorry
[00:15] <gdea73> How do I adjust the scrolling speed in Ubuntu 10.10?
[00:16] <gdea73> I am using two-finger scrolling on my laptop's touchpad, and even Pointing Devices won't allow me to change the speed unless side-scrolling is enabled, which I don't want.
[00:17] <AgamemnonZ> I'll try this question once more. Will 11.10 update LibreOffice to 3.5 or stay with 3.4? If going to 3.5, where can I see when this will approximately happen?
[00:17] <gdea73> wow is there really NO way to adjust it?
[00:18] <gdea73> AgamemnonZ: sorry I've got no idea... :/
[00:18] <jeagle> How do I solve this problem in Ghostscript? :( "Substituting font Times-Roman for Helvetica-Condensed-Black. Can't find (or can't open) font file /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/Times-Roman."
[00:18] <CFHowlett_> AgamemnonZ   download 3.5.1 from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/  then sudo dpkg -i libreoffice.deb to install
[00:18] <davide_at_debian> gdea73: there are lots of ways. the simplest are using menus on your gnome
[00:19] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: What do you mean, using "menus"?
[00:19] <ghostshadow_> .xchat2/budus.so
[00:19] <davide_at_debian> but if you got synaptics, you have white paper on your Xconfigs
[00:19] <gdea73> I haven't found a way to edit the scrolling speed, with GUI or otherwise, in Gnome 2. That's why I was asking, and Opera appears to use Gnome's settings which I don't know how to change.
[00:20] <gdea73> I have a Synaptics touchpad, true, though I'm afraid I don't understand what you're talking about :(
[00:20] <davide_at_debian> when I used gnome, it had a "mouse" option under the settings menu
[00:20] <AgamemnonZ> CFHowlett_:  I know how to install 3.5 (or use the ppa), but I don't want to use that method as I try to help someone else who needs some 3.5 functionality, but I don't want this person to work with unsupported software
[00:20] <gdea73> Yes, mine does as well. I have both "mouse" and "pointing devices," but neither will allow me to adjust the scroll speed.
[00:21] <davide_at_debian> gdea73: if you have synaptics I can give you a hint
[00:21] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: anything remotely resembling a hint, would be great :P
[00:21] <AgamemnonZ> CFHowlett_: So I was trying to find out if and when 3.5 will be released through the normal update channels
[00:21] <gdea73> I do have a Synaptics touchpad...
[00:22] <CFHowlett_> AgamemnonZ   understood.
[00:22] <CFHowlett_> sorry but IDK as I'm on 10.04
[00:22] <AgamemnonZ> CFHowlett_: ok thx :)
[00:22] <davide_at_debian> 1 year ago I filled my /etc/X11/xorg.conf with:
[00:23] <davide_at_debian> Section "InputDevice"
[00:23] <davide_at_debian>   Identifier   "Touchpad"
[00:23] <davide_at_debian>   Driver       "synaptics"
[00:23] <davide_at_debian>   Option       "Name" "Touchpad"
[00:23] <davide_at_debian>   Option       "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[00:23] <FloodBot1> davide_at_debian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <davide_at_debian>   Option       "TapButton1" "1"
[00:24] <Jacruth> hi there, how could I now which dev is my pendrive?
[00:24] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: what exactly does that do, though? I didn't think it would allow me to adjust the scrolling speed, unless that's part of what you were saying...
[00:24] <CFHowlett_> AgamemnonZ   try apt-cache policy libreoffice to identify if it's in the stream.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might pul lit in.
[00:24] <abdelrahman> is there anyway to rollback updates install  .. my system has become unstable
[00:24] <gdea73> Jacruth: I think Disk Utility would list it.
[00:24] <Jacruth> gde33, what do you mean, fdisk?
[00:25] <gde33> wrong person ;)
[00:25] <gdea73> In Ubuntu, there's an application called Disk Utility listed under System -> Administration
[00:25] <Jacruth> sorry gde33
[00:25] <gdea73> haha, yeah we happened to have similar nicks ;)
[00:25] <davide_at_debian> gdea73: yes it allows you to change scloll speed with the right entries
[00:25] <gdea73> anyway, I'm not sure but I think Disk Utility shows you the mountpoint.
[00:26] <gdea73> are USB flash drives even recognized as /dev/sdX? ah well I suppose Disk Utility would tell  you either way
[00:26] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: alright I'll have to try that then, thanks. Must I reboot to effect the changes?
[00:26] <davide_at_debian> just look for those in the manual. it cames bundled with the synaptics .deb
[00:26] <davide_at_debian> no reboot, just a restart of X
[00:27] <AgamemnonZ> CFHowlett_: I think it is not in the stream: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891540/
[00:28] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: okay, I entered the changes and I'll restart X with ctrl + alt + bksp
[00:28] <CFHowlett_> AgamemnonZ   not yet at least. wouldn't be surprised to see it in12.04
[00:28] <gdea73> however does the TouchButton 1 enable tap-to-click, because I'd rather that be off.
[00:28] <gdea73> but alright, I'll try
[00:28] <davide_at_debian> nono wait
[00:28] <davide_at_debian> it was only an example
[00:28] <davide_at_debian> that is THE place
[00:28] <Jacruth> gdea73, I'll try to format a sd card using the disk utility, do you know if Fat option is Fat16? COuld it be Fat32?
[00:28] <davide_at_debian> but the exact options are to look in the manual
[00:29] <shishire> I'm trying to take an already existing ubuntu 10.04 server install on a virtual machine, and trim down the size so that I can ship it as a vm appliance.  Google has been unhelpful in providing a list of packages/sets of things I can uninstall if I'm not using them.  My system only really needs a lamp stack.
[00:29] <davide_at_debian> let me see if i can retrive you a manual..
[00:29] <shishire> Does anyone know of such a list?
[00:29] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: I entered those lines into xorg.conf but I still have no option for scrolling speed in mouse preferences...
[00:30] <davide_at_debian> gdea73: of course, menus arent affected by that, only effective hardware parameters
[00:31] <davide_at_debian> you have to replace the section's content with your custom options, which you can find at:
[00:31] <davide_at_debian> gdea73: http://duckduckgo.com/ , and type "!man synaptics" in the search engine to get the manual
[00:32] <gdea73> davide_at_debian: alright thanks.
[00:34] <quiescens> shishire: you can probably remove most things but it would probably be best to keep all the packages that show up in: tasksel --task-packages minimal
[00:35] <shishire> quiescens: thank you, that should give me a list of things to be wary of removing
[00:41] <ghostconn> anyone know how to add coverflow to rhythmbox? I have been trying for hours
[00:43] <OerHeks> ghostconn, add the cover to the mediafolder it belongs to.
[00:44] <AgamemnonZ> CFHowlett_: Yup, it is going to be in 12.04, I guess 11.10 will have support for just 3.4's critical updates
[00:45] <davide_at_debian> someone uses weechat software? is it possible to use the "logger" module to log only some selected channels?
[00:45] <CFHowlett_> AgamemnonZ   good to know.  Just wait 6 weeks!
[00:45] <nathan_> Has anyone here had any luck getting hybrid graphics to work?
[00:45] <AgamemnonZ> :) ty
[00:46] <mcruz> hello
[00:46] <CFHowlett_> MrCruz greetings
[00:46] <mcruz> i have a problem with my /etc/rc.local in ubuntu 10.04
[00:46] <zyzhang12> hi morning
[00:47] <CFHowlett_> zyzhang12   greetings
[00:47] <log> nathan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[00:47] <mcruz> i'll try to put scripts in that file and the when i put the script in /etc/rc.local don run at set up
[00:47] <mcruz> someone can help please
[00:48] <mcruz> im new with linux am from Dominican Republic
[00:48] <mcruz> i'll apreciate any help
[00:48] <mcruz> thanks
[00:48] <hiexpo> mcored, |ask
[00:48] <vVREDVv> hey can some one direct me to a good opensource nvidia driver that I can download via a repo since the proprietary ones seem to be causing some issues
[00:48] <hiexpo> oops
[00:48] <CFHowlett_> mrcruz I do not scripting but I noticed that etc/rc.local requires you to change execution bits ...
[00:49] <hiexpo> mcruz, just ask you ?
[00:49] <Cham_> My network interfaces are not in the right order in Precise beta
[00:49] <szal> vVREDVv: the alternative is nouveau, and is part of the kernel
[00:49] <CFHowlett_> !precise|cham_
[00:49] <mcruz> hiexpo what
[00:49] <Lirth> I'm having trouble with my dual monitors. Only one will be active. When I unplug it and reboot, then the other will become active. I can't seem to get them both recognized at the same time.
[00:49] <OerHeks> nathan, what videocard ?
[00:49] <vVREDVv> ok so szal its "preinstalled"
[00:49] <szal> yes
[00:49] <vVREDVv> k thanks
[00:49] <vVREDVv> that will explain ALOT
[00:50] <hiexpo> mcruz, meant just ask the ? > don't ask to ask a  ?
[00:50] <mcruz> ok
[00:50] <davide_at_debian> mcruz: chmod 755 /etc/rc.local
[00:51] <nathan_> I have a amd 6740 and an Intel HD
[00:51] <mcruz> my /etc/rc.local is 755
[00:51] <OerHeks> nathan ah Optimus ?
[00:52] <davide_at_debian> mcruz: what kind of script are ypu trying to run?
[00:52] <nathan_> ?
[00:52] <nathan_> What do you mean?
[00:52] <alo> ciao a tutti
[00:52] <CFHowlett_> !it|alo
[00:53] <nathan_> It's a 6470M, my mistake
[00:53] <mcruz> i dont know if i have to change the permissions on that file
[00:53] <pokoko222> can I ask questions about make for building software projects?
[00:53] <alo> grazie
[00:53] <OerHeks> nathan_, sounds like optimus technology, dual video ?
[00:53] <davide_at_debian> mcruz: what kind of script are ypu trying to run?
[00:54] <nathan_> OerHeks, yes it has a switch to hop between integrated and discrete.
[00:54] <mcruz> a simple one, the scrip execute the cat command line and redirect the output to /etc/resolv.conf
[00:54] <OerHeks> nathan_, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee & the channel #Bumblebee
[00:54] <nathan_> OerHeks, it's not NVIDIA :( It's an ATI card.
[00:55] <OerHeks> nathan_, i am not sure ati is optimus too
[00:55] <davide_at_debian> mcruz: so you just have to append the command into the rc.local file
[00:55] <nathan_> OerHeks, it's not Optimus
[00:56] <mcruz> i've try that but didnt work
[00:56] <dlentz> OerHeks, the generic term is 'hybrid graphics'
[00:56] <davide_at_debian> can you paste the cat here?
[00:56] <dlentz> optimus is nvidia's cute name for hybrid graphics
[00:56] <OerHeks> oke, then see the url from log https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[00:56] <mcruz> /bin/cat /home/mcruz/opendns >> /etc/resolv.conf
[00:58] <nathan_> OerHeks, that only works if the card has a hardware mux, but I don't believe mine does.
[00:58] <davide_at_debian> mcruz: ok: open the rc.local and insert, just before the exit 0, echo -e "208.67.222.222 \n 208.67.220.220" > /etc/resolv.conf
[00:58] <nathan_> Here is the thread on the issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450
[00:58] <nathan_> The instructions don't seem to work for me. My machine locks at boot with LightDM failing when I boot with the integrated chip
[00:58] <mcruz> davide_at_debian thanks
[01:01] <schoko> #
[01:02] <davide_at_debian> someone uses weechat software? is it possible to use the "logger" module to log only some selected channels?
[01:02] <szal> davide_at_debian: tried in #weechat already?
[01:03] <DJ> David_Miller, this is Ubuntu support only
[01:03] <davide_at_debian> szal: of course I haven't. thanks
[01:04] <OerHeks> nathan_, did you try classic mode, as #65 suggested?
[01:05] <tomvolek> Has anynone run VmWare player on Ubuntu 11 here ?
[01:05] <nathan_> OerHeks, I've only been running Unity, let me check. Thanks.
[01:05] <tomvolek> After install I ger a version.h file not found when I try to run it.
[01:08] <mcruz> 1
[01:08] <mrfunk> at last i found what was wrong with my warcraft 3
[01:09] <mrfunk> it is AcceptEx related, and i still havent found a way to fix it
[01:10] <mrfunk> anyone knows what is the wine channel?=
[01:10] <CFHowlett_> !wine|mrfunk
[01:10] <Guest10745> hello
[01:10] <CFHowlett_> guest1
[01:10] <mrfunk> #winehq
[01:11] <CFHowlett_> Guest10745   greetings
[01:11] <mrfunk> okay
[01:11] <Guest10745> hi
[01:11] <Guest10745> any help settin up conky out their any tutorials
[01:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 Guest10745
[01:13] <acnot> Hey there all, say what is the name of the channel for 12.04 beta again?
[01:13] <CFHowlett_> !precise|acnot
[01:13] <bazhang> acnot, #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <acnot> Thanks, CFHowlett_, thanks ubottu.
[01:14] <OerHeks> mrfunk, wine appdb tells you to compile wine yourself with the AcceptEx patch, see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126
[01:14] <Guest10745> bazhang: awesome ty :)
[01:16] <ssiie> will SetEnv TZ command on .htaccess affect cron job too ?
[01:17] <mrfunk> OerHeks: hey man, yea im going to check that, thank you
[01:19] <Girls_09> see @ double click -- > http://twurl.nl/lip7gr
[01:20] <log> !spam | Girls_09
[01:20] <OerHeks> Girls_09, no spamming here please
[01:20] <log> !coc | Girls_09
[01:20] <log> That works too.
[01:23] <vn> hi, what command should I use if I want to move the 1024 first lines of a file to the end of the same file?
[01:24] <acnot> Wow so there is no currency converter app or widget for ubuntu
[01:24] <gf2112> Hello Jyothis, welcome to #ubuntu
[01:25] <CFHowlett_> acnot   keurocalc
[01:26] <acnot> Oh, so it is not just for the Euro and it is not just for KDE
[01:27] <CFHowlett_> acnot   sometimes helps to read the info page on apps and programs
[01:28] <acnot> I am just pointing out that the name could be a little more universal
[01:34] <damit23> hey i am using lucid 10.10 .. with a maudio 1010lt ... and there is no output :::( .. alsamixer shows the card fine and envy24control is as well
[01:34] <lx_rss> Somebody knows if the ubuntu server 11.10 has graphical interface?
[01:34] <damit23> when i play something there is nothing happenig on the pcms
[01:34] <CFHowlett_> damit23   make sure your sound output is directing to the maudio
[01:35] <damit23> every thing was working great it was hardy heron machine i upgraded
[01:35] <eodchop> Does anyone know of a photo viewer or photo app that integrates with Picasa? I rather not run picasa under wine.
[01:36] <damit23> speaker-test outputs silence
[01:36] <OerHeks> lx_rss, no. ubuntu server comes without gui.
[01:36] <geek_> hello how do i get access to move folders and create new?
[01:36] <geek_> says im not root
[01:37] <jeagle> Has anyone used ghostscript and had an issue where the image of the pdf was viewable but the text is missing? XD
[01:37] <damit23> CFHowlett_,  how do you mean as in hw:0,0 ?
[01:37] <mr> hello
[01:37] <mr> i need  a little help
[01:37] <damit23> default .. used to be just fine for it..
[01:37] <mr> does anyone knoes if there is a IRC for aircrack?
[01:37] <CFHowlett_> damit23   on 10.04 see sound preferences
[01:38] <OerHeks> !pm | lx_rss
[01:38] <CFHowlett_> !backtrack|mr
[01:38] <damit23> i am using 10.10.. you think there is some problem been introduced?
[01:39] <bazhang> mr #aircrack-ng
[01:39] <damit23> CFHowlett_,  i can only select combinations of surround sound + IEC958
[01:40] <roasted_> hello!
[01:40] <roasted_> Is there a way I can run a cron job @ startup?
[01:41] <CFHowlett_> damit23   you can't change your hardware/input/out or profile?  Abnormal ...
[01:41] <damit23> yep it only shows Digital
[01:43] <CFHowlett_> damit23   When using my presonus interface, sound preferences was where I went to direct the stream.  I suggest you play around with all those settings until you find the one that works.
[01:43] <CFHowlett_> damit23   sorry, IDK more
[01:43] <damit23> awww man 10.10 seems so nice :( .. cant i boot a different kernel i think the ice1712 module is foobar
[01:44] <CFHowlett_> dmichael   you can install a RT kernel ...
[01:45] <damit23> k.. yep sound preferences only gives me combinations of digital input and output and digital surround sound
[01:45] <Jon--> The "System Settings" available under Ubuntu 11.10 is seriously lacking compared to its previous counter part. Does this have to do with Gnome3? For example, power management gives you about 3 options, vs the 10-12 you had before.
[01:45] <Stany> Hi all
[01:45] <Jon--> Also, how do I access the older more traditional "Settings" menu from Gnome classic, is this removed, again due to Gnome3?
[01:45] <CFHowlett_> damit23   take this to #ubuntustudio and ask...
[01:51] <roasted_> Is there a way I can run a cron job @ startup?
[01:52] <komputes> roasted_: put a command in /etc/rc.local
[01:52] <Jon--> roasted_, Write a script that does what you want, make a cron job if you want it to run once in a while, otherwise use /etc/rc.local
[01:52] <komputes> roasted_: if you mean for the user, put it in GNOME's "Startup Applications"
[01:54] <Ben64> i have 11.10 on a laptop, how can i disable suspend when the battery is critical
[01:55] <Wildbat> Is there a software in linux that work like PingPlotter?
[01:56] <roasted_> komputes: that's a good thought too. I guess I didn't think "startup applications" could do what I needed.
[01:57] <CFHowlett_> Wildbat   search software center for netkwork diagnostic
[02:00] <Wildbat> CFHowlett_, thanks
[02:00] <Lirth> Anyone know much about setting up a second monitor in Ubuntu 11.10? I've had some troubles
[02:02] <ntr0py> Does someone here know how i can exchange contacts with android ICS via bluetooth?
[02:03] <Wildbat> ntr0py, do it with vcard file.
[02:03] <Jon--> The "System Settings" available under Ubuntu 11.10 is seriously lacking compared to its previous counter part. Does this have to do with Gnome3? For example, power management gives you about 3 options, vs the 10-12 you had before.
[02:03] <Jon--> Also, how do I access the older more traditional "Settings" menu from Gnome classic, is this removed, again due to Gnome3?
[02:04] <ntr0py> Wildbat: yes that works (usb with mtp) but i would like to get it synced with evolution via bluetooth
[02:04] <hatch> with 10.04 installed can I install 11.10 on the same drive? and use the same bootloader?
[02:05] <deadhead_> I'm having problems getting ubuntu on a pavillin g6 with radeon graphics
[02:05] <deadhead_> blank screen
[02:05] <deadhead_> i have tried nomodeset
[02:05] <deadhead_> and radeon.modeset=0
[02:06] <ntr0py> Jon--: there are a few more available with gnome-tweak-tool
[02:07] <Jon--> ntr0py, is that what we have to resort to using now to modify Ubuntu settings?
[02:07] <Sonic132> Is this the rigt channel for mint as well? Just want to make sure before I save this channel.
[02:08] <jrib> Sonic132: no, ubuntu only
[02:08] <nyRednek> Sonic132: no, this is not right channel for mint
[02:08] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[02:08] <Sonic132> Thanks for the reply guys. Any idea what channel for mint? Or any other distros?
[02:09] <ntr0py> Jon--: I hope they will improve settings, e.g. there are no text rendering options which i would consider basic enough to be in system settings (as they were in gnome 2)
[02:09] <kehu> tki t
[02:09] <Jon--> ntr0py, This is a Gnome3 issue not a Ubuntu one correct?
[02:09] <kehu> gntu i;ou,urm
[02:09] <ntr0py> yes
[02:09] <CFHowlett_> kehu   umm, english please?
[02:12] <PhillyB> Hello
[02:12] <CFHowlett_> PhillyB   greetings
[02:13] <goddard> i use the terminal a lot and i have several passwords i have to enter in on a regular basis.  Is there anything like lastpass for my terminal window?
[02:14] <s1meon> I am completely new to ubuntu and pretty lost, can anybody point me in the right direction to getting started
[02:15] <CFHowlett_> s1meon   what's your specific interest?
[02:15] <ilyekkakai> HELP! System > Administration > NVIDIA (version current) says "This driver is activated but not currently in use" AND visual effects is not available option in System > Preferences > appearance... how do I fix driver issue?
[02:16] <semitones> is it possible to lock the screen when the computer sleeps/resumes?
[02:16] <CFHowlett_> s1meon   see here for inspiration ... http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[02:16] <semitones> I don't see settings for that in system settings
[02:17] <CFHowlett_> semitones   should be a preferences>screensaver setting
[02:18] <s1meon> CFHowlett, I am a beginner programming hobbyist, I just set up an old hp i had in my basement, put ubuntu on it and want to be able to program on this machine
[02:18] <hatch> When installing 11.10 on the same drive as 10.04 will it give me the option to dual boot instead of upgrade? I want to keep both os's available
[02:18] <s1meon> and maybe turn it into a server eventually
[02:18] <CFHowlett_> s1meon   lots of programming articles available via the downloads.
[02:19] <semitones> CFHowlett_: i don't see any screensaver options in 11.10
[02:19] <semitones> er
[02:19] <semitones> 12.04
[02:19] <semitones> i mean
[02:19] <semitones> 11.10 :/
[02:19] <FloodBot1> semitones: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <CFHowlett_> s1meon   also see your local magazine rack for Ubuntu User magazine.  There are a few downloadable articles at http://www.ubuntu-user.com/
[02:19] <s1meon> CFHowlett_ thanks ill see what I can find in there :)
[02:20] <hp> trancongminh
[02:20] <CFHowlett_> semitones   http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/09/disable-screen-saver-lock-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[02:21] <hp> hp
[02:21] <semitones> CFHowlett_: it's already disabled, I want to enable it
[02:21] <CFHowlett_> semitones   *reverse* the process shown ...
[02:22] <semitones> CFHowlett_: doesn't work -- that's the current state of the system... thanks though
[02:22] <semitones> it looks like a bug -- i might report it
[02:22] <ssfdre38> is there a tutorial on how to update the kernel form 3.0.0 to 3.2.11
[02:22] <haz3lnut> wow, nightingale released!  never thought I'd see the day.
[02:24] <Dnerd> oh my gosh!
[02:24] <Dnerd> POOP!
[02:26] <ghostconn> hello has anyone been able to find a stable cover flow plugin for rhythmbox 2.90.1?   any help appreciated
[02:27] <TechIsCool> hey how do I download all the emails from the local ubuntu server? I don't want to send them but I want to download them to something readable
[02:29] <ilyekkakai> help me! nvidia drivers are activated but not in use????
[02:30] <haz3lnut> ilyekkakai: you sure that's not a known bug?
[02:30] <ghostconn> what type of video vard are you using?
[02:31] <ghostconn> go to the additional drivers menu and try the (recommended) driver for you're card
[02:31] <ssfdre38> ilyekkakai, look for NVIDIA X Server Settings as that will be your display manager for your video card
[02:32] <CFHowlett_> TechIsCool   running Evolution?  There's a Settings Backup feature
[02:32] <TechIsCool> CFHowlett_: Its just server so I don't think so
[02:32] <ilyekkakai> ghostconn, nvidia GeForce 6800 GS... additional drivers is active.. it says "not in use"... there is NO option for visual effects in appearance settings
[02:33] <Sygoth> .
[02:33] <ssfdre38> ilyekkakai, follow what i said to do cause i use Nvidia on my tower and it will work
[02:34] <ghostconn> ok... go to the additional drivers menu and you should have two options with two different  of which to install. Install the one you don't have and reboot
[02:34] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn a mpg to dvd using growisofs... the dvd skips in a dvd player, otherwise it plays fine. anyone have any suggestions for me?
[02:34] <ghostconn> I had the same issue with many ati cards and i choose the recommended driver and that was never the case lol
[02:35] <ilyekkakai> ssfdre38, what do you want me to do? Nvidia X Server setting runs, but it still says driver is not in use. And visual effects are still not available.
[02:35] <ilyekkakai> ghostconn, The only other option I have for additional drivers is version 173. I will try that
[02:35] <ssfdre38> ilyekkakai, yea install the post-release drivers
[02:35] <ghostconn> kk let me know ...
[02:36] <ilyekkakai> brb unless gdm fails to start again....
[02:36] <ghostconn> guarntee it will work
[02:36] <ghostconn> ask around if you are having second thoughts
[02:39] <ssfdre38> so yea has anybody updated their kernel from 3.0.0-12 to 3.2.11
[02:40] <phraktal77> hi
[02:40] <xangua> !kernel | ssfdre38
[02:41] <ilyekkakai> ghostconn, ssfdre38  now activated version 173 driver from additional hardware... same issue. "not in use" and no option for visual effects. How do I install neauvou (whatever it's called) opensource driver again? At least it worked.
[02:41] <TechIsCool> hey how do I download all the emails from the local ubuntu server? I don't want to send them but I want to download them to something readable
[02:41] <ghostconn> it must be you're videocard?
[02:41] <ghostconn> thats very odd...
[02:41] <phraktal77> I've had a strange problem today. I was able to ping an IP but I was unable to either do an http request against the same IP or open a mysql connection to it
[02:42] <phraktal77> People around me on the same network were able to connect
[02:43] <phraktal77> my linux-hostile CTO told me it's cause of my "stupid" ubuntu... ;(
[02:43] <phraktal77> not sure what to do about it
[02:44] <donsd> If I run mplayer from command line, I see some info and can quit by typing q.
[02:44] <davide_at_debian> phraktal77: it was a wise observation
[02:44] <phraktal77> I'm suspecting it's some routing problem, but can't put my finger on it. It's the latest ubuntu distribution
[02:45] <donsd> If I run mplayer in crontab, the mp3 plays, but I do not see anything and cannot quit.
[02:45] <ilyekkakai> ghostconn, I know. It is only the video card in this PC which doesn't like nvidia drivers.
[02:45] <donsd> Is there something I can do in crontab so I can see mplayer output?
[02:46] <m4n_> crontab for playing mp3?
[02:46] <davide_at_debian> phraktal77: you received a pong reply directly from that ip or from a midway router replying with some fail packet?
[02:46] <phraktal77> no
[02:46] <donsd> m4n_, yes, as an alarm.
[02:46] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: ping was OK 100%
[02:46] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: and all other functionality of the internet was working
[02:47] <m4n_> donsd: how can it be alarm if it is from crontab?
[02:47] <ilyekkakai> I am going to try installing nouveau drivers again.
[02:47] <donsd> Just play mp3 at a set time.
[02:47] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: According to my genius CTO, this is a common problem with ubuntu. It "stalls" like that for sometime, and than magically starts to work
[02:47] <davide_at_debian> maybe you could run a wget from terminal to try get some useful output?
[02:47] <phraktal77> it happens only between our office and our datacenter
[02:48] <phraktal77> on many IPs
[02:48] <m4n> donsd: just kill the process once you are done playing, IMO
[02:48] <phraktal77> I can try tomorrow when back at the office. Just need some plan, cause if I do not fix it, I'll look pretty stupid
[02:48] <davide_at_debian> what is the http reply message?
[02:49] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: Requests just hand until they timeout
[02:49] <phraktal77> hang
[02:49] <phraktal77> all of them
[02:49] <donsd> m4n, thanks for the feeback, but I want to see output.
[02:50] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: He said it happend before to other people in the office, but went away by itself... Apparently does not happen on fedora but I'm not sure if there is enough fedoras to know
[02:50] <CharminTheMoose> I'm compiling a 2.6.39 kernel with aufs support, but 'make modules_install' is only installing crypto modules, despite me doing a 'make allmodconfig'.
[02:50] <davide_at_debian> did the boss give some hint other then stupidity?
[02:50] <klync> hey, my keyboard's auto-repeat suddenly stopped working. I have no idea. thoughts?
[02:50] <davide_at_debian> ah
[02:50] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: no just stupid remarks. He really hates linux..
[02:51] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: It's ok when the hole office fights with viruses though :)
[02:51] <davide_at_debian> I don't think a fedora could solve it, but you could try install it on a virtual machine just to hope
[02:51] <phraktal77> I'm thinking it could be related to my IP
[02:51] <phraktal77> I was trying to change it but DHCP would keep giving me the same
[02:52] <davide_at_debian> I may more probably be an office routing problen rather than one with your client
[02:52] <davide_at_debian> it*
[02:53] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: That's what I think too, apparently does not happen with windows boxes..
[02:53] <phraktal77> could it be some windows only "feature" on a router that linux can't handle ?
[02:54] <phraktal77> it's really strange... anyways, basically wasted a day on this issue today
[02:54] <davide_at_debian> for a simple http request I don't think there could exist much special customization on windows side
[02:56] <davide_at_debian> but, just as a thrown guess, you could try to fake the windows user agent in your browser
[02:56] <a847> Hi all. I am fixing up a computer for a friend, and installed 11.10 x64 on his Sony Vaio F Series laptop. It installed fine (using alternate CD, LIVE wouldn't work for some reason), and wifi worked during installation. Now, however, when I click the network icon it says "device not managed" under wireless networks. The wifi card is an Atheros AR9287
[02:57] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: it was the same for any other request. mysql connection over 3306 was also hanging
[02:57] <davide_at_debian> http request are absolutely the same between linux and windows, only the self identification thru useragent is different, wich could explain the distincted behaviour
[02:57] <john__> hey guys, i am wanting to make my own .metalink file for download on my local area network...how do i format a copy of ubuntu to be used as metalink
[02:58] <davide_at_debian> phraktal77: I don't know about mysql.
[02:59] <DylanJ> is there a channel for 12.04?
[02:59] <DylanJ> questions/problems*
[02:59] <h0rst> topic
[02:59] <DylanJ> h0rst: ah yeah didn't see. scrolled waaay past.
[02:59] <Fyodorovna> !precise | DylanJ
[03:00] <kk2_> how i restore my bootscreen? i just updates my kernel and nvidia driver, when i start (boot) all becomes black and a few moments opens gdm
[03:01] <john__> hey guys, how do I register on freenode?
[03:01] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: btw, I was able to traceroute and ping all IP addresses I could not connect to .. ;(. I've send these to my admins and they said it was ok
[03:02] <ssfdre38> john__, use /ns help register
[03:02] <Fyodorovna> !register | john__
[03:03] <davide_at_debian> phraktal77: I think you should ensure it's not a problem affectin windows too, then I'd make a try imitating Internet Explorer changing UA string in your browser
[03:04] <davide_at_debian> It woudln't be impossible for microsoft services to appositely behive differently with linux clients
[03:04] <a847> Hi all. I am fixing up a computer for a friend, and installed 11.10 x64 on his Sony Vaio F Series laptop. It installed fine (using alternate CD, LIVE wouldn't work for some reason), and wifi worked during installation. Now, however, when I click the network icon it says "device not managed" under wireless networks. The wifi card is an Atheros AR9287
[03:04] <phraktal77> hmm .. well i'm connection to linux boxes ... linux to linux, over corporate network
[03:05] <esca> a847 install the drivers for your wifi card
[03:05] <john__> hey guys, i am wanting to make my own .metalink file for download on my local area network...how do i format a copy of ubuntu to be used as metalink
[03:06] <kk2_> no ideas?
[03:06] <davide_at_debian> phraktal77: you retrived the http page directly from ip or had solved a DNS?
[03:06] <a847> @esca How can I do this without access to a wired connection? I have a USB drive and another working computer.
[03:07] <phraktal77> davide_at_debian: when doing http, I was using dns
[03:07] <phraktal77> but I was able to ping both dns and the ip it was resolving to
[03:08] <esca> @a847  http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2713
[03:08] <davide_at_debian> it seems strange to me. I'd ensure it's not a random DNS solving problem by retriving the page directly from ip
[03:09] <davide_at_debian> it seems strange to me. I'd ensure it's not a random DNS solving problem by retriving the page directly from ip
[03:09] <esca> @a847 use the usb to move the tar to the computer with the wifi not working
[03:09] <Sygoth> anyone know a way to get around the whole dynamic ip funness so I can access a server I'm trying set up at home?
[03:10] <ssfdre38> Sygoth, talk to your ISP
[03:10] <davide_at_debian> then it *might* be some clients are filtered out on purpose
[03:10] <ssfdre38> Sygoth, most ISP will block out going ports to prevent home grown servers
[03:10] <Sygoth> I suppose
[03:10] <Dulak> residential internet tends to block port 80 and 25 inbound to force you to pay for commercial internet
[03:12] <Sygoth> I knew a guy who sort of got around it for 30 bucks a year but I was seeing if anyone knew a more clever way around
[03:12] <ghostconn> anyone have any clue on how to add artflow to rhythmbox 2.90.1?  im running ubuntu 11.10
[03:13] <Sygoth> I think I'll just grab pagekite since it tunnels through SSL
[03:13] <davide_at_debian> Sygoth: you mean to solve ip or bort lock?
[03:14] <dlentz> ghostconn, artflow?
[03:15] <ghostconn> it's a cover flow ui for rhythmbox similar to itunes or a ipod touch
[03:15] <ghostconn> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/coverflow-plug-in-for-rhythmbox/
[03:15] <ghostconn> check out tat link it gives instruction however only for gnome 2
[03:16] <Sygoth> at the least they won't be able to check my packets
[03:16] <davide_at_debian> Sygoth: you mean to solve ip or port lock?
[03:17] <Sygoth> more to solve the ip
[03:17] <davide_at_debian> no-ip.com
[03:17] <samuelsapps> hi all, is there some feature like group policy (in Active Directory) in openldap
[03:18] <Sygoth> true no-ip.com works as well
[03:18] <dlentz> ghostconn, i see, it's nice looking
[03:20] <davide_at_debian> Sygoth: problem "almost" solved?
[03:20] <ghostconn> yes it is a amazing feature however I cannot seem to install it on ubuntu 11.10 desktop.... i have downloaded the plugin and copied it to my rhythmbox plugins folder however it dose not show up in the rhythmbox plugins setting
[03:21] <a847> @esca When I type start-network, I get a command not found error
[03:22] <esca> @a847 try: service network restart
[03:23] <Sygoth> yeah a buddy of mine wrote a bash program that updates his dns every minute (overkill in my opinion) so he can run a server he built from his house
[03:23] <haz3lnut> get cable and don;t change your mac, mostly acts like static
[03:26] <Jon--> Ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 my wireless has been worse than it used to be (range wise). Any ideas?
[03:26] <Jon--> Sitting in my kitchen with wlan0 cutting in and out from lack of range, usually not an issue here
[03:26] <a847> #esca Ok, I'll try that when I restart again. Did the alternate instructions
[03:27] <esca> @jon-- could be tx and rx power being set lower
[03:28] <Jon--> Ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 my wireless has been worse than it used to be (range wise). Any ideas?
[03:28] <Jon--> Sitting in my kitchen with wlan0 cutting in and out from lack of range, usually not an issue here
[03:28] <ghostconn> ubuntu 11.10 is 100% garbage either downgrade or induce fallback mode for better performance... better yet switch to mint,fedora or arch
[03:28] <Sygoth> I'm running 11.10 on an old compaq nc6320 and it seems like i'm getting pretty decent if not better range with it
[03:28] <Jon--> esca, where can I adjust this?
[03:28] <ghostconn> thats my personal opinion
[03:28] <esca> @a847 if you restart you dont need to restart the network service
[03:29] <a847> @esca, Ok then neither method worked :(
[03:29] <JamPacked> ghostconn: im not running ubuntu, but i love your opinion
[03:30] <a847> @esca When I type service network restart, it says "network: unrecognized service" btw
[03:30] <esca> @jon-- iwconfig will allow you to adjust that given that your drivers allow it
[03:30] <Lirth> How would I find my IP address for remote access?
[03:31] <ghostconn> 11.10 a is stripped down version ... the community decided to make it more friendly on smaller devices such as tablets,netbooks ect... for a desktop pc the benchmark's are pathetic for ubuntu 11.10
[03:31] <Jon--> esca, May have missed your message, wireless dcd :p
[03:31] <esca> @a847 /etc/init.d/network restart try that
[03:31] <ghostconn> regardless of what hardware you're running
[03:31] <xangua> ghostconn: and neither ubuntu support related, please stop that
[03:31] <MangoBoy> Hi is there a equivalent package as urxvt, and urxvt-perls in arch for ubuntu?
[03:32] <esca> @jon-- iwconfig will allow you to adjust that given that your drivers allow i
[03:32] <ghostconn> he said hid computer was running slow when he just installed 11.10 common even you should be recommending something better to him... dont let him sit there in pain
[03:32] <esca> @jon-- iwconfig will allow you to adjust that given that your drivers allow it
[03:33] <drounse> yesterday i took out the gigabit nic i had in my desktop and switched it with a different gigabit adapter, no i dont have any internet coming through
[03:33] <MangoBoy> rxvt-unicode can it be the same as urxvt ?
[03:33] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: urxvt as in the terminal emulator?
[03:33] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, yes
[03:33] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: Sure, it's the same -- My terminal of choice
[03:34] <a847> @esca "bash: /etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory"
[03:34] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: iirc there are a few different versions, some supporting different fonts
[03:34] <MangoBoy> ok i understand urxvt-pearls has some good comandline copy paste with out mouse possibilitys
[03:35] <MangoBoy> what package would have that on ubuntu?
[03:35] <drounse> how do allow unsafe ports on chrome?
[03:36] <esca> @a847 my mistake its /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:38] <Jon--> esca, how can I check the current values with iwconfig?
[03:38] <smv> I need to backup some ntfs partitions to a external usb hdd. I've tought to dd them to files in a ext4 partition, but I'm not sure if that would be the best aproach. any other ideeas?
[03:39] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: I think by default urxvt-unicode will copy any text you select with the mouse
[03:39] <kttwow> is there anybody here that knows JAVA ?
[03:39] <esca> @jon-- type :iwconfig in console and you should have  a setting call tx-power:
[03:40] <a847> @esca Says "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces", but it's on "reconfiguring network interfaces..." now. Has been for a bit
[03:40] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, Absolutly no mouse! thats what i want to get rid of
[03:40] <Jon--> esca, 15 dBm. How do I know what my card can support? That seems low
[03:40] <kttwow> Anyone here know a channel for java discuss ?
[03:41] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: A good command to learn is 'apt-cache search', for example 'apt-cache search urxvt' will show all packages available with urxvt in the name
[03:41] <MangoBoy> tmux were mentioned but also some goodies in urxvt-pearls
[03:41] <MangoBoy> I use synaptic but found non on urxvt,
[03:41] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, I use synaptic but found non on urxvt,
[03:42] <midnitemagus> Hey all, I was wondering if I could ask a question
[03:42] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: I totally understand, the only success i have had with urxvt and mousless copying is using hacks like piping the text you want copied into the clipboard (if you're wanting the copying done or available in X)
[03:43] <a847> @esca, It just stopped, saying "failed to bring up wlan0"
[03:43] <drounse> how do allow unsafe ports on chrome?
[03:43] <Nexuus> kttwow try ##java on freenode
[03:43] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: If you want copying between terminals, probably the best option is using a program like 'screen'
[03:43] <ntr0py> Can i somehow scan a bluetooth device for its available profiles?
[03:43] <apple_cat> !ask | midnitemagus
[03:43] <esca> @a847 try ifdown wlan0  then ifup wlan0
[03:44] <Jon--> esca, It's maxed (any value higher than 15 gets rejected). What can I check next?
[03:44] <Lirth> I'm having trouble setting up my second monitor in ubuntu 11.10. For some reason it randomly picks one when I turn on the computer and will only recognize that one.
[03:44] <kttwow> Anyone here know a channel for java discuss ? or does anbody here want to help me with a little begginers question
[03:45] <midnitemagus> Okay, thanks. Ummm I was just wondering if anyone had any info on streaming video troubles in Ubuntu? I did a system update a few days ago and ever since I've been having problems
[03:45] <a847> @esca, "ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured". ifup is taking a bit
[03:45] <apple_cat> kttwow: ##programming might be the place
[03:45] <esca> @jon-- what is the model of your wifi card? mine for example operates at 20db then goes to 27 when in operation
[03:45] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, screen seemed more complicated the tmux but ofcource i dont know anything :) hardly the differense between emulator and console!
[03:45] <kttwow> apple_cat, thank u
[03:45] <Jon--> esca, AR928X Atheros
[03:45] <kttwow> /programming
[03:46] <Lirth> kttwow: Or ##java
[03:46] <Lirth> !pm | kttwow
[03:46] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: You're right, tmux would be better, i'm just old school so said screen
[03:47] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, is ther no way to sync urxvt's paste buffer with xclip
[03:48] <hts> is this the place i can ask question
[03:48] <onekenthomas> y
[03:48] <WilsonBradley> plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in
[03:48] <MangoBoy> hts, I do!
[03:48] <hts> great
[03:49] <ntr0py> How can i scan a bluetooth device?
[03:49] <MangoBoy> hts, Yes isn't it!
[03:50] <esca> @jon-- what message do you get when you try to change the power?
[03:50] <hts> i just got this program and need to know where i can find tons of info like the terminal code
[03:50] <Jon--> esca, Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) Set failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:51] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: I don't know of an automatic way to do this, but you can for instance do something like (ls | xclip -selection c -i)
[03:52] <a847> @esca, ifup finished with "Failed to bring up wlan0"
[03:52] <esca> @jon-- this is what i did in the past with my card.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1814516.html   don't set it to 30 ... try 20 then 27
[03:52] <Jon--> esca, I can't even set it to 16.
[03:53] <esca> @jon-- sudo iw reg set BO then iwconfig wlan1 txpower 20
[03:53] <Lirth> I'm having trouble getting my second monitor to recognize in Ubuntu 11.10
[03:53] <Jon--> esca, "sudo iw reg set BO" what does this command do?
[03:54] <apple_cat> Lirth: What graphics card do you have?
[03:54] <esca> @jon-- BO=bolivia . it allows your to set your tx past the restrictions in your country
[03:54] <Lirth> apple_cat: GTX 470
[03:55] <Lirth> apple_cat: 570*
[03:55] <esca> a847
[03:55] <a847> yes
[03:55] <drounse> yesterday i took out the gigabit nic i had in my desktop and switched it with a different gigabit adapter, no i dont have any internet coming through
[03:55] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, would that sync the buffer towards x-clip ? so i could actually put that in a script. and how would i sync otherway?
[03:55] <Jon--> esca, No dice. See: http://pastebin.com/Gkh3Mqgx
[03:56] <apple_cat> Lirth: Are you running open source drivers? If not then the command 'nvidia-settings' might be able to resolve the issues
[03:56] <ntr0py> Is there a way to use "OBEX Phonebook Access Server" via bluetooth with evolution to sync contacts?
[03:58] <Lirth> apple_cat: I got it to display. If I want it to extend between monitors, do I want twinview or seperate x screen?
[03:58] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: Well in the example I gave (ls | xclip -selection c -i) it will copy the output from ls into xclip, if there's a command to echo the urxvt buffer then you could pipe that into xclip and the two buffers will be synced
[03:58] <hellier> every calm down. I am here.
[03:58] <Roasted> This may be a dumb question, but what is the difference from /etc/rc.local vs adding a command to run in startup applications? Is /etc/rc.local global while startup apps only runs for that specific user?
[03:59] <esca> @jon-- i know what the problem is... you have to do ifdown <interface name> then do those commands ... then ifup <interface name>
[03:59] <apple_cat> Lirth: iirc they both have some benefits and faults, which one you choose will depend on what you want. Probably though, twinview is what you want
[03:59] <Jon--> esca, BUT MY INTERNETS!?!? :P
[03:59] <Jon--> esca, This is a rather old laptop, how high can I safely increase the txpower without melting my card?
[04:00] <esca> @jon-- i don't really know. i would try to google that information. My guess is that 27db should be fine
[04:01] <yipeng> test
[04:01] <a847> esca, I see it in network tools, with a hardware address, multicast enabled, MTU 1500
[04:02] <esca> @a847 i really think it is just a matter of installing the proper drivers, but im looking into it right now
[04:03] <a847> esca, Ok, thank you. I keep looking as well
[04:03] <Mirai_> Anyone mind helping me with a small Unity problem?
[04:03] <apple_cat> Roasted: https://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/8116-an-introduction-to-services-runlevels-and-rcd-scripts
[04:03] <Jon--> esca, http://pastebin.com/1CHTh2Uk  sudo ifconfig wlan0 down instead seems to be automatically put back up (did network manager change its behaviour in 11.10 or something?)
[04:04] <Mirai_> I can't get my terminal to stay in the launcher.
[04:05] <esca> @jon-- do this instead: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[04:05] <Jon--> esca, I did, it is auto brought back up on 11.10...
[04:06] <Jon--> At least, before I even had time to re-adjust txpower, my wireless already reconnected to my ap -_-'
[04:06] <esca> @jon-- what does it say after you run that?
[04:06] <Jon--> No output
[04:06] <dsnyders> Hi all!  My screensaver is supposed to shut off the monitor after half an hour.  It normally does this just fine.  However, for the past couple of days it just does the normal screensaver and never shuts down the monitor.  How do I "convince" the screensaver to shut down the monitor properly?
[04:06] <zivester_> anyone know a way to watch files in ubuntu, similar to `watchr` ?  Trying to run a certain command when files change
[04:07] <beesKnees> what's up all you ubuntu pimps!
[04:07] <Jon--> esca, Hold on I'll give it one more go
[04:08] <dsnyders> zivester_, the tail command with the follow option can show you the last lines of a file.
[04:08] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, so i could alias (| xclip -selection c -i) to copyx) and use that to pipe the outcome of tmux, or is the pastebuffer in a file or place i could cat ?
[04:09] <Jon--> esca, Ubuntu 11.10 seems to give you about 5-10 seconds before deciding to be parental and automatically bringing your i/f back up for you -_-'. Didn't work even in that window though, see http://pastebin.com/d5vwJLDx
[04:09] <Jon--> Used 17 as a test, just increasing +2 current.
[04:09] <zivester_> sorry, this is for watching if a file has changed, not actually tailing its contents.... so in my case, watching a set of files... when one of those changes, execute `make` again... like this: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/blob/master/Makefile#L56-58
[04:10] <esca> @jon-- once you do ifconfig down wlan0... you gotta do sudo iw reg set BO
[04:11] <hts> bon
[04:11] <hts> --
[04:12] <esca> @a847 are you running the latest kernel with ubuntu 11.10?
[04:12] <Jon--> esca, Oh. THAT'S the one that needs i/f down. *face palm*. Gimme a min.
[04:13] <ftg2> is it possible to install from the iso without burning it?
[04:13]  * ftg2 looks around for cds :\\
[04:13] <apple_cat> MangoBoy: Yep an alias would be a good idea if you are going to use it a lot. For tmux there is 'tmux show-buffer'  so pipe that into the xclip thing and the xclip and tmux pastebuffers will be synced
[04:14] <Jon--> esca, No such luck, see http://pastebin.com/UtKTD2We  The final ifconfig I did to show i/f still down and the commands were done fast enough
[04:14] <a847> esca, 3.0.0-12-generic
[04:14] <sacarlson> ftg2: you can use a usb pen drive to boot/install or can also add an entry to a grub2 list if you already have grub2 installed
[04:15] <dsnyders> ftg2, You could use the Pendrive linux USB installer system.  It would take a USB flash drive large enough to hold the ISO.
[04:15] <ftg2> sacarlson: i am running 11.04 and would like to upgrade, but unfortunately the dist upgrade is failing. can't calculate upgrade or something :\
[04:15] <a847> esca, I just installed earlier today. After install, wireless stopped working and I couldn't update anything
[04:16] <rexbutler> Is there any reason why 10.04 would work with VirtualBox but 11.10 would not?
[04:17] <Fyodorovna> rexbutler, you get any errors?
[04:17] <ai> hello.. can u help me with APTonCD ?
[04:17] <sacarlson> ftg2: if the system is still usable I guess you might still be able to do this http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[04:18] <rexbutler> Fyodorovna:  I may have to redo it to get the exact message, but it happened right when I did first run and selected the 11.10 iso.
[04:18] <rexbutler> Fyodorovna: IE select for install
[04:18] <ftg2> sacarlson: ahh. that looks interesting.  i think i might try that
[04:18] <rexbutler> I'm just fine with 10.04 unless 11.10 is tons better
[04:19] <Fyodorovna> rexbutler, you can set that iso in the setting of the machine.
[04:19] <sacarlson> ftg2: usb flash drive might be a bit less chanlenging
[04:19] <Fyodorovna> settings*
[04:21] <Fyodorovna> rexbutler, in settings-storage so you can avoid doing this at first boot
[04:21] <FredwardTheGreat> rexbutler, you ubuntu 11.10?
[04:21] <rexbutler> I'm on 10.04 now, but I'm having a fail on install 11.10, yes
[04:22] <MangoBoy> apple_cat, nice
[04:22] <esca> @jon-- show me what iwconfig wlan0 shows after you bring it down
[04:23] <esca> @a847 sorry i don't think i can help you with this
[04:23] <a847> esca, Ok, thank you for trying. I'll keep looking
[04:23] <Fyodorovna> rexbutler, try settings-system-processor- enable pae/NX mine needed this ticked.
[04:23] <dr_willis_> you dont need to use @nick on irc.....
[04:24] <a847> Hi all. I am fixing up a computer for a friend, and installed 11.10 x64 on his Sony Vaio F Series laptop. It installed fine (using alternate CD, LIVE wouldn't work for some reason), and wifi worked during installation. Now, however, when I click the network icon it says "device not managed" under wireless networks. The wifi card is an Atheros AR9287. I do not have access to a wired network, but have a USB drive and a computer with a wo
[04:24] <ghostconn> anyone know of a good desktop widget/gaget to monito cpu and gpu temp
[04:24] <Jon--> esca, http://pastebin.com/LFYhrWrq
[04:24] <dr_willis_> ghostconn: several. conky is popular. theres indicator applets also
[04:25] <Jon--> Showing you iwconfig after set, no change.
[04:25] <FredwardTheGreat> pre-authing stores and use that to have a testicular torsion or is the follow option can show me what iwconfig wlan0 shows after install, wireless networks
[04:25] <ftg2> sacarlson: i can't seem to find one of those either. its ok though. this looks like it might be fairly straightforward. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[04:26] <dr_willis_> ftg2: pendrive linux site has tools that can help also
[04:26] <FredwardTheGreat> anyone with a file or place i could use the pendrive linux usb installer system
[04:26] <ghostconn> i have tried conky before I find it really hard to use
[04:26] <ghostconn> not user friendly thats for sure lol and screenlets is garbage lol
[04:27] <hts> im sick of eating poop for dinner
[04:27] <Guest22942> help plz, how do i get root user to move a folder into icons?
[04:27] <dr_willis_> screenlets is outdated last i looked
[04:27] <dr_willis_> Guest22942: that made no sense
[04:28] <Guest22942> i download mouse pointers now im trying to get them to there folder location
[04:28] <Guest22942> but tells me no access
[04:29] <komputes> Guest22942: what the location you need to put the cursor theme in?
[04:29] <dr_willis_> ghostconn: check out the indicator applets list at the askubuntu site. get away from desktop widgits
[04:29] <ntr0py> How can i use my phones "OBEX Phonebook Access Server" over bluetooth with ubuntu to sync my contacts?
[04:29] <Guest22942> /usr/shared/icons
[04:29] <apple_cat> a847: Are you running the latest available kernel?
[04:30] <Guest22942> share*
[04:30] <komputes> Guest22942: run 'sudo nautilus' in a terminal, it will give you a file browser as root. do everything within this window.
[04:30] <a847> apple_cat: 3.0.0-12. The wireless stopped working after installation, so I didn't get to run any updates
[04:30] <dr_willis_> i dont think thats where cursor themes go..
[04:30] <komputes> me neither
[04:31] <ghostconn> what about psensor?
[04:31] <komputes> Guest22942: what cursor theme is it?
[04:31] <dr_willis_> !info psensor
[04:31] <xangua> !gksu | komputes
[04:31] <nuxx> hi everybody
[04:31] <FredwardTheGreat> hi all
[04:31] <Guest33282> Hi!
[04:31] <DareDevil> Hello guys
[04:31] <sacarlson> ftg2: I use more as the dan sonny example in that post you gave us also shows you with an added custom entry in grub2,  after created you just copy the iso file to that location renamed and boot a new iso
[04:32] <nuxx> can someone  help me to recover my usb
[04:32] <komputes> xangua: doe the same, it's just a graphical prompt, lost all meaning after alt-f2 was removed imo
[04:32] <DareDevil> I just installed Kubuntu on a system with an APU 3650 Asus Motherboard and I get black screen on boot
[04:32] <DareDevil> Any suggestion?
[04:32] <nuxx> i think the MBR  i gone when i format it
[04:32] <FredwardTheGreat> i don't think thats too obvious
[04:32] <dr_willis_> DareDevil:  for what.
[04:33] <DareDevil>  I just installed Kubuntu on a system with an APU 3650 Asus Motherboard and I get black screen on boot
[04:33] <dr_willis_> !nomodeset
[04:33] <nuxx> now i want to get backtrack on it
[04:33] <DareDevil> ok i will try that
[04:33] <dr_willis_> nuxx:  bt has its own support channels.
[04:34] <DareDevil> good that worked
[04:34] <Guest33282> Hellow World!
[04:34] <DareDevil> thank you
[04:34] <nuxx> no i need to know how to restore my US B  first
[04:34] <nuxx> is that ok with you ?
[04:34] <dr_willis_> nuxx:  restore in what way?
[04:34] <Guest33282> Pizdec
[04:35] <nuxx> i can use the usb in unetbootin
[04:35] <nuxx> it doesnt recognise it now
[04:35] <dr_willis_> gparted can repartion and reformat usb drives
[04:36] <nuxx> ive done this first
[04:36] <dr_willis_> done what exactly? nuxx
[04:36] <apple_cat> a847: The wireless stopped working after you installed the newer kernel?
[04:37] <ryzzan> hi, everybody
[04:37] <rexbutler> Please see: http://s634.photobucket.com/albums/uu70/RexButler/?action=view&current=asdf.png
[04:37] <nuxx> format the usb in gparted  and create new partition
[04:37] <rexbutler> My error trying 11.10
[04:37] <rexbutler> when installing under VirtualBox
[04:37] <FredwardTheGreat> i do not managed under wireless stopped working after created you just copy the iso file or place i may have to find one of eating poop for me cranking dat soulja boy
[04:38] <ryzzan> i'm trying install this epson kitchen printer, tm-u200 on ubuntu... n it's not working
[04:38] <dr_willis_> nuxx: you partition then firmat to fat32 normally.
[04:38] <ryzzan> Ç(
[04:38] <a847> apple_cat, I installed using the x64 alternate iso. During installation, it configured and worked fine for installation. After it rebooted, wifi at my home was still going, but the icon on the task bar was blank and saying "device not managed"
[04:38] <nuxx> indeed sir
[04:39] <a847> apple_cat, so I didn't update anything outside what got done during installation as I had to leave for work and it won't connect here
[04:39] <Guest33282> Who will prompt where I?
[04:39] <Fyodorovna> rexbutler, what does the info dropdown say?
[04:39] <Fyodorovna> *details
[04:39] <ryzzan> i'm trying install this epson kitchen printer, tm-u200 on ubuntu... n it's not working... anyone?
[04:40] <rexbutler> Result Code:
[04:40] <rexbutler> VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80BB0005)
[04:40] <rexbutler> Component:
[04:40] <rexbutler> Medium
[04:40] <rexbutler> Interface:
[04:40] <FloodBot1> rexbutler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <rexbutler> IMedium {53f9cc0c-e0fd-40a5-a404-a7a5272082cd}
[04:40] <nuxx> how can i diagnotic  it from terminal view
[04:41] <Jeremy3D> ubuntu 11.10 - Where's a good place to save different builds of a program ? (specifically Blender)
[04:41] <FredwardTheGreat> if you are going to use more as the oppressors - the oppressors - the pendrive linux site has tools that iso in china?
[04:41] <ryzzan> i'm trying install this epson kitchen printer, tm-u200 on ubuntu... anyone?
[04:41] <rexbutler> test
[04:42] <ryzzan> ??
[04:43] <apple_cat> a847: I understand now, there seems to be a lot of problems with the Atheros AR9287 card, here's a thread that might have a possible fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1835190&page=4. Another temporary fix could be disabling 802.11 N and using G instead
[04:43] <FredwardTheGreat> when installing under virtualbox but 11.10 seems to a wired network, but what you do this in #ubuntu too obvious when you walk into the xclip thing and the xclip -selection c -i) to copyx) and as broke as root
[04:43] <Fyodorovna> rexbutler, not sure really, have you tried the #vbox channel?
[04:43] <rexbutler> Fyodorovna:  I'll try there
[04:43] <ryzzan> i'm trying install this epson kitchen printer, tm-u200 on ubuntu... n it's not working... anyone?
[04:44] <Fyodorovna> !patience | ryzzan
[04:44] <ryzzan> =X... sry
[04:44] <FredwardTheGreat> rexbutler
[04:45]  * dr_willis_ wonders what a kitchen printer is.. does it burn images on toast?
[04:45] <dr_willis_> !cups
[04:46] <travis_> can you get ubuntu lts to run in wubi, or is it only the latest release?
[04:46] <royaflash> sale no pishahpish mobarak
[04:46] <dr_willis_> lts iso has wubi on it for lts
[04:47] <dr_willis_> travis_: i suggest avoiding wubi
[04:47] <ryzzan> :(
[04:48] <travis_> why is that? i have a dedicated machine for 10.04 LTS, but why do you suggest being weary of wubi
[04:50] <dr_willis_>   short answer.. wubi is doggy doo doo...
[04:50] <Fyodorovna> travis_, read what the wubi designer says. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[04:51] <dr_willis_> id do vbox instead of wubi....
[04:51] <dr_willis_> less hassles
[04:51] <dr_willis_> i keep hopeing wubi will get removed from the releases....
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> heh if you have win7 installed as a 1st OS you may aswell get grub anyways especially if you're going to dabble in linux, win8 isn't going to be here anytime soon and if you maintain win7 well enough you most likely won't ever need to reinstall
[04:55] <travis_> yeah, I don't dabble in linux, i use it lol. I do have a win7 box have already set up the dual boot.
[04:56] <travis_> I was just wondering if wubi could run the LTS, as i've not looked at it enough myself. I want to start the rest of my family out on linux.
[04:56] <Jon--> esca, Are you busy, should I seek help from someone else?
[04:56] <travis_> and trying it out on wubi is much better than a live cd or usb
[04:56] <chull> we got the home files mostly moved, but how can we move korganizer ?
[04:57] <apple_cat> !ask | Jon--
[04:57] <aeon-ltd> travis_: i think wubi can load any ISO if it's in the same directory as the .exe ; doing this from win of course
[04:57] <travis_> ah, that makes sense
[04:57] <Jon--> apple_cat, He was assisting me earlier with something and has been quiet for quite some time. It is curtsey imo to give him a chance to help again or to pass it off to someone else :P
[04:57] <travis_> thank you
[04:58] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[04:58] <curiousx> !fr | curiousx
[04:58] <apple_cat> Jon--: We deal in answers not curtsey : p
[04:58] <kiten> anyone know how to set your $DISPLAY ? I mean normaly its 0:0 right ?, and if I rebooted would it reset to the correct value ?
[04:59] <apple_cat> kiten: Why would you want to set your $DISPLAY?
[04:59] <sacarlson> kiten: normaly each time you bring up a new term the $DISPLAY will be set to default
[04:59] <kiten> oh thanks
[04:59] <kiten> :P
[04:59] <kiten> have a nice day guys :P
[04:59] <kiten> later
[05:00] <kiten> ./quit
[05:00] <kiten> whoops lol
[05:00] <Jon--> Issue: can't set txpower using iwconfig on my card. Atheros AR928X. I used "sudo iw reg set BO" to allow it to go past legal limit (if that was the potential issue) as it's stuck at a low 15 dBm, which is causing me connection issues in my house. I am trying to set it to around 30. Here is some output when I try : http://pastebin.com/LFYhrWrq
[05:00] <Jon--> apple_cat, satisfied? ^ :P
[05:01] <curiousx> are this the PPA for firefox 14 nightly? ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[05:01] <apple_cat> Jon--: Honestly an Atheros issue is not something that leaves me satisfied
[05:02] <curiousx> i know its daily but will install 14 now a day?
[05:02] <Jon--> apple_cat, Then get on your wifi hax0r hat and give me a hand :P
[05:02] <curiousx> solved in #ubuntu-mozillateam ;)
[05:03] <dsnyders> How do I restart my screen saver?
[05:05] <Chipzzz> Jon--: what makes you think the card can deliver more than 15db?
[05:06] <Jon--> Chipzzz, I see a few forum posts online with the same card that using these commands ^ got it up to around 25 safely. I can't get Internet in my room at all. Short of going out and blowing $45 for another router, dd-wrt setup in repeater mode (that's always fun and goes EXACTLY as planned :P)... I'd rather boost txpower.
[05:07] <apple_cat> Jon--: So the card supports multiple transmit powers?
[05:07] <FredwardTheGreat> psilipharm
[05:08] <Jon--> apple_cat, I am not sure, the fact that someone else was able to adjust it using iwconfig suggest so.
[05:09] <PsiliPharm> Yup
[05:09] <apple_cat> Jon--: Source?
[05:09] <Jon--> apple_cat, Perhaps not... I see here someone recommending to boost it, but no reply back that it worked. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1814516.html
[05:10] <Jon--> That was boosting his other wlan0 card, not the Atheros one.
[05:10] <Chipzzz> Jon--: Here's something that might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814516
[05:10] <Chipzzz> lol... beat me to it!
[05:10] <Jon--> :)
[05:10] <Chipzzz> according to #4, you should be able to get more power from it
[05:11] <Jon--> Chipzzz, That's exactly the commands I am running. I have a suspicion it may be that my card DOESN'T support this, and he was referring to the guys other card (the AWUS036H)
[05:14] <apple_cat> Jon--: So the actual problem is that you have bad reception? Even if it were possible, I don't think increasing the wlan0 transmit power is going to make the connection any better unless you can increase the access points power too
[05:14] <dr_willis_> need moar powar! actually i need to get a new wireless card this week also...
[05:14] <Jon--> apple_cat, I might be able to boost the AP actually. It is running dd-wrt with pretty stock settings
[05:15] <dr_willis_> anyone noticed a top 10 wireless cards fir linux list. wanting some list thats not going to show cards that i cant find in the stores.
[05:16] <apple_cat> dr_willis_: find card that is right price, feature set for you and then check it's supported. I think rather than looking for the cards that work you should be looking for the ones that don't
[05:17] <brianp1992> im running freenas, i was wandering if itwas possible to  get things like apt-get
[05:19] <nathan_> Can someone help me try with my laptop? It runs very hot in Ubuntu. I think it's gfx card related.
[05:19] <brianp1992> is there a way to set up apt-get in freenas/freebsd?
[05:19] <flowerpot> In Windows, I could press ALT to access the menu at the top of a given window (file, edit, view, etc.).  can i do this in ubuntu (gnome)?
[05:19] <apple_cat> brianp1992:  freenas = FreeBSD, at-get = debian/linux -- http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html
[05:19] <dr_willis_> freenas is usung bsd.  so it has its own system
[05:19] <Chipzzz> Jon--: maybe rather than messing with the card's settings, you can beef up the antenna and get more transmit and receive gain
[05:21] <brianp1992> but is it possible to set up the package managers and stuff so i can install . deb
[05:21] <flowerpot> got it, alt+f1
[05:21] <dr_willis_> brianp1992: ask in bsd
[05:21] <brianp1992> is ther icr for it?
[05:21] <dr_willis_> id doubt it.
[05:22] <dr_willis_> id guess.. #bsd
[05:22] <dr_willis_> freenas homepage also...
[05:23] <apple_cat> brianp1992: From the link I sent you -- Packages are pre-compiled applications, the FreeBSD equivalents of .deb files on Debian/Ubuntu based systems and .rpm files on Red Hat/Fedora based systems. Packages are installed using pkg_add(1).
[05:23] <brianp1992> thanks
[05:25] <FredwardTheGreat> efpc2003
[05:25] <apple_cat> at least it's a totally offtopic freebsd question rather than a totally offtopic windows question
[05:26] <brianp1992> lol, how to i get invited to #freebsd
[05:26] <curiousx> =0 is a private channel ?
[05:27] <brianp1992> yees bolth #bsd and #freebsd
[05:27] <curiousx> =0 i didn't know that =(
[05:27] <apple_cat> first step to freebsd world domination -- private channel. Is your nick registered ?
[05:28] <brianp1992> pepole who use bsd hate everyone else
[05:28] <brianp1992> idk how to lol
[05:29] <apple_cat> brianp1992: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[05:29] <apple_cat> also some advice, start with the basics : )
[05:34] <MestreLion> Hello Everyone! For pure curiosity: does anyone have a rough estimative of how large would be an Ubuntu system (let's say Oneiric) if one installed ALL available (non-conflicting) packages?
[05:35] <MestreLion> Just for the fun of having "the WHOLE Ubuntu installed".. what would it be? 150GB ? much more? much less?
[05:35] <FredwardTheGreat> jon--_
[05:35] <Jon--_> FredwardTheGreat,
[05:35] <apple_cat> MestreLion: As in... Every available package?
[05:35] <MestreLion> and FredwardTheGreat , please don't flame me for cross-posting :P
[05:35] <FredwardTheGreat> fredwardthegreat
[05:36]  * Jon-- evil laughter.
[05:36] <MestreLion> yes apple_cat ... every one of the 30.000+ available packages (minus the conflicting ones, of course)
[05:36] <edwardl> Hello everyone.  I'm a total Ubuntu noob.  I'm guessing I did something right
[05:36] <edwardl> :D
[05:36] <MestreLion> edwardl: you are here, so a step in the right direction :)
[05:36] <Jon--> I've given up on iwconfig, I just set my AP to use 40MHz, thus blasting 3-4 channels away from all of my neighbours but pumping out nice bandwidth for me.
[05:37] <Jon--> I feel like a Wifi facist.
[05:37] <MestreLion> apple_cat: any ballpark estimative on how large would such a system be?
[05:37] <edwardl> Thanks!  I've been looking into Linux and Java programming in Ubuntu if anyone has any resources or tips.
[05:37] <brianp1992> jon romoni?
[05:38] <mosno> edwardl, you might want to be a little more specific
[05:38] <edwardl> Gah.  I don't even know
[05:38] <Chipzzz> Jon--: interesting card ;-)
[05:38] <apple_cat> MestreLion:  So basically after installing every possible package you want to know the size of /    ... Because the size of individual packages couldn't be counted as there are shared libraries
[05:38] <edwardl> I just started looking into it.  I used to know a tiny bit about MS-Dos a long time ago and I'm just now getting back into anything
[05:39] <edwardl> basically just beginner programming.
[05:39] <MestreLion> edwardl: there is no such thing as "Linux" programming... as for Java, is pretty similar to java devepment in windows... you have the same compiles, the same IDEs (Eclipse, NEtbeans, etc)
[05:39] <edwardl> Ok
[05:39] <apple_cat> MestreLion: Do it and tell me the answer : p
[05:39] <FredwardTheGreat> tell me when this epson kitchen printer, tm-u200 on my card
[05:39] <edwardl> I have Eclipse
[05:39] <slikts> MestreLion: tell that to Linus
[05:39] <slikts> MestreLion: kernel programming is Linux programming
[05:39] <Black> Edwardl: you can start with gambas,its easy!
[05:39] <apple_cat> edwardl: Theres bash... That's probably the closest thing to linux programming compared to MS-dos
[05:39] <edwardl> Black: Yeah?
[05:39] <MestreLion> slikts: ok, granted... unless you want to hack the kernel itself... i think it wasn't his point :P
[05:40] <slikts> apple_cat: except bash even runs on win and elsewhere
[05:40] <edwardl> I'm running on VM ware with a Mac just now
[05:40] <apple_cat> slikts: Sure... But most books titled "linux programming" start with bash
[05:40] <slikts> apple_cat: well, so what :P
[05:40] <MestreLion> yes apple_cat ... the size of all *.debs may be a clue, but it is far from the true answer of "how large would / be after the install"
[05:41] <Black> Edwardl: kind of,if you know any thing about visual basic,then i can say its equaly easy
[05:41] <apple_cat> slikts: got to start somewhere ^_^
[05:42] <edwardl> Black: I started to try to learn HTML5 when I couldn't build my own website, and that got me into Android, then I realized I didn't even know Java, so I downloaded Ubuntu and TADA!! here I am :D :D
[05:42] <FredwardTheGreat> m00se
[05:42] <edwardl> I don't actually know any of those things
[05:42] <edwardl> haha
[05:42] <edwardl> I'm just trying to get into it, and have NO idea where to start
[05:42] <MestreLion> edwardl: a golden hint if you want to properly learn Bash "programming" (the shell scripting in Ubuntu): go to #bash and ask for "Bash Guide"
[05:42] <slikts> edwardl: just don't get discouraged when you find out that picking up things like linux is a grueling process
[05:42] <m00se> FredwardTheGreat
[05:42] <FredwardTheGreat> fredwardthegreat
[05:43] <edwardl> slikts: yeah I've seen that.
[05:43] <slikts> edwardl: also, bash and shell scripting in general really sucks, learn something better like python
[05:43] <apple_cat> edwardl: haha I understand, I think learning the basics would involve Bash, the linux filesystem, then you could start with a programming/scripting language
[05:43] <edwardl> slikts: OK Python sounds really familiar
[05:43] <slikts> people who are hung up on shell scripting should go away
[05:44] <MestreLion> Python is a very popular programming language in Linux/Ubuntu... it's a great one
[05:44] <apple_cat> Although you aren't going to be using bash for making apps -- It is going to be the thing you use everyday when on ubuntu
[05:44] <edwardl> It seems like I need to work Terminal in Mac and Ubuntu to be kind of a power user, yes?  What is a good resource to learn the Linux file system?
[05:44] <FredwardTheGreat> i'm running on vm ware with a mac just arent fast enough myself
[05:44] <slikts> in 2012 there are better options than effing bash
[05:44] <Black> Edwardl: dont wory i am sugesting this information keepin you in mind! Try the free tutorial far gambas! You wil see how easy it will be for you,then you slowly move to gcc
[05:44] <apple_cat> why the bash hate?
[05:44] <MestreLion> slikts: shell scripting is not "true" programming... but he will need it, and learn it properly, regardless of which language he picks
[05:45] <edwardl> I'm over here scribbling notes.  I've found the right place!!
[05:45] <edwardl> Who knows a Mr. Mitnick
[05:45] <edwardl> ?
[05:45] <edwardl> jk
[05:45] <slikts> MestreLion: not necessarily, you can just do without shell scripts
[05:45] <FredwardTheGreat> anonymous
[05:46] <anonymous> hellow!
[05:46] <MestreLion> slikts: for example, he will eventually deal with DVCS, maybe git... or file handling... all those are heavily terminal-oriented...
[05:46] <slikts> MestreLion: that's not to say you need shell scripts to work with something like git
[05:46] <FredwardTheGreat> oh you want to do without shell scripts
[05:47] <Guest77822> narod ay???
[05:47] <FredwardTheGreat> sandstrom
[05:47] <MestreLion> slikts: you don't HAVE to... but automatizing certain tasks, generalizing certain things, will make things easier...
[05:47] <FredwardTheGreat> why did all things, start anew?
[05:48] <edwardl> automation is something I would truly like to investigate
[05:48] <FredwardTheGreat> can't calculate upgrade or something i need higher
[05:48] <slikts> MestreLion: you still get better options, like fabscripts etc.
[05:48] <FredwardTheGreat>  databases, etc.
[05:49] <MestreLion> slikts: I don't know what fabscripts are... I'll google for that, thanks for the hint
[05:49] <dr_willis_> just dive in and start learning...
[05:49] <slikts> MestreLion: it's a python thing
[05:50] <MestreLion> so, let me rephrase my suggestion: edwardl , *IF* you eventually have to deal with Bash scripts/ing, please use the support at #bash and their amazing Bash Guide... avoild at all costs things like TLDP and random blog "tutorials" that you googled
[05:51] <apple_cat> fabscripts = fabulous scripts?
[05:51] <FredwardTheGreat> freenas = debian/linux -- it is a very sage saying.
[05:51] <MestreLion> it will save you a LOT of headaches
[05:51] <Jordan_U> FredwardTheGreat: Please stop talking nonsense.
[05:51] <FredwardTheGreat>  however, if i stop the corner store every scrap of those ancient empires need to install a year ago and the pool pays you based on the brain won't not be that my working wife has all things, start anew?
[05:51] <Black> Edwardl: not to forget google,lots of ebooks
[05:52]  * Jon-- blinks repetitively trying to understand what he just read.
[05:52] <CFHowlett_> *kick now* computing while drunk is illegal on irc
[05:53] <apple_cat> while illegal, it is seemingly common practice
[05:53] <MestreLion> edwardl: for interpreted (but still very powerful) languages, Python is a great place to start. For a compiled language, there's always C/C++. Both Python and C are perhaps the most popular languages used in Ubuntu development
[05:53] <CFHowlett_> edwardl   several python articles are available for download  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[05:54] <MestreLion> edwardl: Java is not as popular, maybe because of the whole Sun/OpenJDK issue...
[05:54] <tuc> how can i upgraade my linux kernel to the latest ver 3.2.12, i downloaded the source from kernel.org
[05:54] <Jordan_U> tuc: Why do you want a newer kernel version?
[05:54] <curiousx> tuc: there are a easyest way to install the lastes kernel
[05:54] <dr_willis_> !kernel
[05:55] <curiousx> easyer*
[05:55] <Jon--> edwardl, Do what you want. You seem to have a passion, follow it. If that leads you into writing code at Microsoft, so be it. If it leads you into being a core developer for a Linux distribution, awesome. We can field any questions you might have but, really, go code something you WANT to do, and build your skills from there. :)
[05:55] <Jon--> Python is a good introductory programming language IMHO.
[05:55]  * CFHowlett_ thinks about  new! shiny! thing! syndrome
[05:55] <Chipzzz> curiousx: "easier"*
[05:55] <curiousx> than compiling, there are .debs, i have installed 3.2.5 using .debs =P
[05:55] <dr_willis_> python game of the week site is fun to explore
[05:55] <curiousx> yeh! easier =P
[05:56] <Chipzzz> lol
[05:56] <MestreLion> curiousx: debs build for your release ?
[05:57] <curiousx> kernel 3.3 rc 7: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3-rc7-precise/
[05:57] <curiousx> nop, my ubuntu is 10.04 =P
[05:57] <MestreLion> curiousx: installing precise's kernels in lucid is not for the faint of heart :P
[05:58] <welly> Hey all. Having some real problems with UC Roles. In sandbox mode, it's working correctly as it should - a user gets the new role, everyone is happy.
[05:58] <curiousx> is BT based on ubuntu 10.04 but, when i upgrade to BT r2, i installed kernel version 3.2.6 automatically =P
[05:58] <Jon--> I want to branch out my knowledge of Unix systems. Would I learn more installing Arch, or FreeBSD?
[05:58] <Jon--> !ot | Jon--
[05:58] <welly> sorry - wrong channel
[05:58] <CFHowlett_> !backtrack|curiousx
[05:58] <MestreLion> curiousx: BT ?
[05:59] <curiousx> MestreLion: i knowb about it, but i like to live that way =P
[05:59] <curiousx> Backtrack
[05:59] <curiousx> see this line: Linux bt 3.2.6 #1 SMP Fri Feb 17 10:40:05 EST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:59] <apple_cat> How come #ubuntu-offtopic isn't in the topic?
[06:00] <Jon--> curiousx, You can get backtrack support in #backtrack-linux
[06:00] <MestreLion> i assume it will upgrade libc6 too
[06:00] <curiousx> Jon--: i know, currently i dont need suport =)
[06:01] <MestreLion> Jon--: that depends on how wide you want to branch your knowledge... Arch is Linux, FreeBSD is not...
[06:01] <curiousx> i just helping the user downloadin the lastes kernel in .deb format
[06:01] <curiousx> to installing the lastest kernel in a easier way than compilling
[06:02] <Jon--> MestreLion, I'm leaning towards FreeBSD, though I did work with it a bit in my last work term. Was just looking for an opinion. I know I'm ot right now.
[06:02] <MestreLion> Jon--:  Arch also uses a lot (perhaps all) of the same GNU tools as Ubuntu, while FreeBSD uses much les (if any)
[06:02] <apple_cat> ljoin #backtrack-linux
[06:02] <npx> I installed a 32-bit version of Ubuntu using Wubi, can I install a 64-bit kernel? I just want to run 64-bit apps in a chroot
[06:03] <Jon--> MestreLion, If I used FreeBSD, it'd be a CLI server for sure. Their X support is flaky at best.
[06:03] <CFHowlett_> npx   64 bit requires at least 4 gigs of ram ...
[06:03] <MestreLion> Jon--: I think the answer depends on how far from your familiar experience you want to go... simply speaking, Arch is much closer to Ubuntu than FreeBSD
[06:03] <npx> CFHowlett_, no it doesn't, it just allows you to address more than 4gb of ram
[06:03] <CFHowlett_> npx ok -
[06:04] <Jon--> I was more looking for a professional opinion, from anyone who is in IT and in the industry, what would you prefer to see a fresh graduate with experience in.
[06:04] <MestreLion> npx / CFHowlett_ 32bit with PAE also allows that
[06:04] <Jon--> I don't have a personal bias in either direction.
[06:04] <CFHowlett_> MestreLion   ty
[06:04] <curiousx> CFHowlett_: 32 bits kernel with PAE can support 64 Gb ram
[06:04] <MestreLion> Jon--: if learning is your main focus, may I suggest Gentoo ? Or even LFS ?
[06:04] <npx> Anyway, can I install a 64-bit kernel and run this 32-bit userland?
[06:05] <MestreLion> 64? I thought it was less, like 16
[06:05] <MestreLion> no npx
[06:05] <Jon--> npx, I don't believe that you can.
[06:06] <MestreLion> npx: 32-bits apps and (and their libraries) have a completely different kernel ABI
[06:07] <curiousx> but you can install ia-32libs
[06:07] <MestreLion> npx: altough *some* 32 bits software can still work provided their libraries are in ia-32libs package
[06:07] <curiousx> and i sow installing programs forcing the architecture
[06:08] <MestreLion> but that is a case-by-case scenario, not a general solution
[06:08] <npx> meh, I'll just install i686 debian hah
[06:08] <curiousx> dpkg --force-archiquecture  or some like taht =P
[06:08] <Jon--> npx, Sounds like you'd be better off with visualization, depending what you are trying to do.
[06:08] <Jon--> If it's just a quick test ^
[06:08] <MestreLion> curiousx: whitout recompiling?
[06:08] <npx> no, I'm using debootstrap to install Debian from a Wubi installation of Ubuntu
[06:08] <curiousx> yep from .debs pakages
[06:08] <Jon--> MestreLion, You shouldn't need to recompile to use that.
[06:08] <npx> I wanted to install debian testing amd64
[06:08] <MestreLion> you are insane curiousx
[06:09] <curiousx> maybe =P
[06:09] <MestreLion> Jon--: to use .debs of compiled (say C) software from different archs?
[06:10] <Jon--> MestreLion, To use --force-architecture on a deb package with dpkg.
[06:10] <MestreLion> curiousx: OR you are a very experienced and skilled hacker that knows how to deal with consequences... not the target audience of Ubuntu
[06:10] <curiousx> look at this MestreLion: http://i.imgur.com/KhVcU.png    http://i.imgur.com/zYGBD.png    http://goo.gl/KtCFj =P
[06:10] <Jon--> Wait, Ubuntu isn't made for people who know what the hell they are doing!? :O.
[06:10] <MestreLion> Jon--: you CAN use that, of course... and it will install, ok. My point is what would the consequences be :P
[06:10]  * Jon-- Feels the sudden urge to jump ship.
[06:11] <curiousx> nop i am a really noob, but i like to expermient =P
[06:11] <Jon--> MestreLion, I don't know, why don't you try doing it in glibc ;)
[06:11] <MestreLion> great idea Jon-- !!! :D
[06:11] <npx> you can't use --force-architecture to spawn a chroot /bin/bash that's compiled for 64-bit when you're running a 32-bit kernel
[06:11] <MestreLion> Ubuntu is multiarch now, afterall ! :D
[06:11] <npx> i have to setup the 64-bit system to spawn TTYs and whatnot
[06:12] <Jon--> npx, No, you can't, but hoping distributions aren't going to help you do that either.
[06:12] <npx> so meh, i'll just use the i386 build, it's all good
[06:12] <Jon--> The kernel binaries are completely different. Use i386 or virtualize :P
[06:12] <npx> i'm not hopping distros, I'm just using ubuntu to install debian because this machine has no CD
[06:12] <MestreLion> npx: ... or use Virtualbox :P
[06:12] <curiousx> someones say that canonical will recommend 64 bits version in Oneric Ocelot, is that true?
[06:13] <CFHowlett_> !64bit
[06:13] <tuc> i wnat ti upgrade ny kernel to laetes vers
[06:13] <Jon--> I've always wondered why people who know what they are doing, still use Ubuntu...
[06:13] <tuc> 3.2.12 kenel image
[06:13] <Jon--> I'm at the point now where I feel an urge to move away. Only thing keeping me is, I want a system to work without having to tinker really, but some of the recent design choic--- Okay. I'll stop before I get the +b :P
[06:13] <MestreLion> Jon--: because you don't *need* to know what you're doing for 99% of the time... makes using the OS easier...
[06:14] <Zenith77> can anyone tell me how out of date: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL is for 11.10?
[06:14] <MestreLion> less headaches
[06:14] <Jon--> Zenith77, I'll take a look.
[06:14] <curiousx> i'll use an ubuntu based or ubuntu itself distro =P
[06:14] <tuc> i have problems with my dell vostro 1450 latop.. fan always running , laptop over heating
[06:14] <Zenith77> I'm trying to install it but I keep getting the following error when running psql: Can't exec "dpkg-architecture": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/psql line 103.
[06:14] <curiousx> for all my live
[06:14] <Zenith77> Apparently, this had been a bug a few months ago but it's listed as fixed
[06:14] <MestreLion> Zenith77: it was edited in 2011-10
[06:15] <Zenith77> so I don't know if it's reappeared or if I'm just doing something terribly wrong
[06:15] <nikhil_> anyone here set up ntop on ubuntu? I'm having troubles with permissions and RRD directories (i'm not sure exactly these are my inferences). I'm also not sure exactly where the config file is
[06:15] <MestreLion> Zenith77: so it should be "Oneiric-aware" or pretty close
[06:15] <nikhil_> *log file, that is
[06:15] <Zenith77> hrm
[06:15] <Zenith77> ok then
[06:15] <tuc> or should i start using ubutnu 12.04 beta
[06:16] <Jon--> Zenith77, Nothing strikes me as not working on 9.1 if you wanted to install that instead.
[06:16] <curiousx> tuc: you want to install the lastest kernel?
[06:16] <tuc> yes
[06:16] <Jon--> Just general postgres setup stuff.
[06:16] <tuc> curiosx: ues
[06:16] <Zenith77> Jon--: that is what I have been installing
[06:16] <MestreLion> Jon--: think about this... Linus himself use Fedora (another "user-friendly" distro)... so yes, not being *forced* to tinker everything, everytime is a Good Thing(tm)
[06:16] <Zenith77> doing apt-get install postgresql automatically resolves to postgresql-9.1
[06:16] <curiousx> tuc did you see this link? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3-rc7-precise/
[06:16] <tuc> curiosx: yes 3.2.12 stable
[06:16] <stevephan1212> lam sao de an thanh cong cu phia ben trai man hinh ubuntu?
[06:16] <tuc> curiosx: no
[06:17] <CFHowlett_> !vn|stevephan1212
[06:17] <tuc> curiosx: ok saw now, what to do next
[06:17] <curiousx> but this kernel is recommended to use on oneric ocelot, which version do you have?
[06:17] <Jon--> MestreLion, Who is Linus?
[06:17] <Jon--> Just kidding.
[06:17] <curiousx> i mean precise pangoling =P
[06:18] <MestreLion> Jon--: just a regular guy, no one to worry about.. RMS is the on e that should be your God :D
[06:18] <Zenith77> I must have done something terribly, terribly wrong. Because not even the basic setup for postgres seems to be working now, even after a purge and autoremove
[06:19] <Jon--> MestreLion, Yeah, right, RMS love from a Ubuntu user? I dont
[06:19] <MestreLion> Jon--:  ... and he uses an Ubuntu-based distro, btw
[06:19] <Jon--> don't buy it*
[06:19] <tuc> curiosx: bcoz my laptop is having trouble, it is getting overheated with 11.10 cpu fan continuosu ly running
[06:19] <curiousx> tuc: which version do you have?
[06:19] <Jon--> You can separate free and non-free channels in ubuntu?
[06:19] <MestreLion> Jon--: Why not? He is an Ubuntu-derivative user
[06:19] <tuc> curiousx: i have problems with my dell vostro 1450 latop.. fan always running , laptop over heating
[06:19] <Jon--> Actually, makes sense.
[06:19] <tuc> curiousx: bcoz my laptop is having trouble, it is getting overheated with 11.10 cpu fan continuosu ly running
[06:19] <MestreLion> Jon--: that is what gNewSense is all about
[06:20] <Jon--> All the PPAs are divided nicely out so he can exclude all that non FOSS code ;P
[06:20] <tuc> curiousx: yes 3.2.12 stable
[06:20] <MestreLion> Jon--: It's Ubuntu with strict free software guidelines
[06:20] <curiousx> tuc: give me: uname -a
[06:20] <Jon--> curiousx, so demanding
[06:20] <tuc> curiousx: i don;t have this overheating problem when i used win 7 but i don't want to use windos
[06:21] <Jon--> Sleep time for me, I'm rambling and getting ot a lot. I felt like contributing 15 mins of nix support but no one is really having problems :P. Night
[06:21] <tuc> right now i have 11.04 installed
[06:21] <tuc> curiousx: right now i have 11.04 installed
[06:21] <MestreLion> Jon--: not adding partner is not enough... many FOSS packages still have trademarks issues..
[06:21] <tuc> curiousx: 2.6.38-8-generic
[06:21] <MestreLion> Jon--: not to mention binary blobs in firmware, kernel, etc
[06:21] <curiousx> ok
[06:21] <tuc> curiousx: 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:22] <Jon--> curiousx, 3.0.0-16-generic is current unless you push a later one on 11.10.
[06:22] <MestreLion> tuc: 2.6.38 is from Natty IIRC
[06:22] <curiousx> yeah! i think tuc should consider upgrading to oneric ocelot
[06:22] <curiousx> or doing a clean install
[06:22] <Jon--> There's really no need to upgrade until LTS...
[06:23] <tuc> curiousx: i tried oneric, laptop is getting over heated
[06:23] <Zenith77> Jon--: are you running 11.10 for psql 9.1?
[06:23] <MestreLion> not worth installing Oneiric since we are so close to Precise... beta install FTW :D
[06:23] <Jon--> I finally got around to it because I knew I'd have to deal with Unity hell/bypassing eventually, so I'm learning early
[06:23] <Jon--> Zenith77, I don't have postgres on this box I have it on my server. Why?
[06:23] <Zenith77> what version are you running on your server?
[06:23] <Jon--> 9.1
[06:23] <Zenith77> no
[06:23] <Jon--> It's not Ubuntu though.
[06:23] <Zenith77> What version of ubuntu
[06:23] <Zenith77> Oh
[06:23] <Zenith77> Darn.
[06:24] <FloodBot1> Zenith77: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <Jon--> Why?
[06:24] <Zenith77> I've installed postgresql only 1-2 times, but it's always been painless
[06:24] <tuc> curiousx: the fan continously runnig and overheating is very dangerous for my kaptop, i purchased it recently dell vostro 1450 i dont want to burn it down
[06:24] <Zenith77> Well because, I'm seeing if this is some kind of "bug" in the package/setup or what. Like I said, the error I am running into was reported a few months ago, but it's listed as fixed
[06:24] <Zenith77> I'm wondering if it popped back up again somehow
[06:25] <Jon--> Zenith77, What bug? If you give more details people can help you.
[06:25] <MestreLion> tuc: if that is a modern laptop, you will surely benefit from a modern kernel. Try Precise's  LiveCD and see if it still overheats
[06:25] <curiousx> tuc: ok let install 3.2. for the good of the comunity =P
[06:25] <curiousx> what you think about it guys =P
[06:26] <MestreLion> curiousx: he is using Natty, correct?
[06:26] <Zenith77> Well, here's the error message as stated before, let me go get the link though: : Can't exec "dpkg-architecture": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/psql line 103.
[06:26] <Zenith77> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-common/+bug/860552
[06:26] <stevephan1212> làm sao ẩn thanh công cụ phía bên trái màn hình ubuntu?
[06:26] <MestreLion> curiousx / tuc : There is no point in upgrading kernel if you are not SURE that this kernel will actually solve your particular issue
[06:27] <MestreLion> Try Precise  LiveCD before
[06:27] <curiousx> yep natty, there was a problem with the battety upon 2.3.38 kernel or 2.3.39 i dont remember very well, but this issue was solved with 3.2 kernel version
[06:27] <Jon--> Zenith77, You did an apt-get update before installing?
[06:27] <MestreLion> IF it does not everheat, THEN upgrade kernel
[06:27] <Jon--> The bug says that psql works despite the warning. Give it a try.
[06:27] <Zenith77> Jon--: yes sir!
[06:27] <Zenith77> ok
[06:27] <MestreLion> curiousx: I'm aware of the issue... it was about PCIe handoff
[06:28] <MestreLion> BUT.. we don't know if that is what is causing his laptop to overheat
[06:28] <Fyodorovna> stevephan1212, This is a english if you can.
[06:28] <MestreLion> yes, that issue is now fixed in 3.2... but please tuc , first test it in a LiveCD to see if that is YOUR issue
[06:28] <curiousx> battery and ACPI, i bix it up a Mint with this problem, the laptop heated at the point to poweroff itself
[06:28] <Jon--> If anyone with some postgres chops could help Zenith77 that'd be great. I have job interviews and classes tomorrow. Night.
[06:28] <CFHowlett_> !vn|stevephan1212
[06:28] <curiousx> i fix it up*
[06:28] <apple_cat> stevephan1212: #ubuntu-vn để được giúp đỡ bằng tiếng Việt
[06:29] <curiousx> so... lets install 3.2.6?
[06:30] <MestreLion> guys, LiveCDs are precisely for that... one of the key advantages to Ubuntu over Windows... you can boot and use a complete system without touching your HDD
[06:30] <curiousx> tuc: where are ya?
[06:30] <DocPlatypus> how do you adjust the buffer settings for Internet radio in Banshee?
[06:30] <tuc> curiousx: yes the laptop has corei3 2nd gen and sandy bridge graphics.. also
[06:30] <MestreLion> don't try a risky kernel backport before you are at least sure that this kernel is what you need
[06:31] <curiousx> how many ram do ya have?
[06:31] <tuc> curiousx: i think the problem is with the kernel bcoz i tried fedora 15 and 16 both and same over heating issues
[06:31] <emily_> hi, I have a question for anyone on here regarding Ubuntu and Internet access
[06:31] <curiousx> commonly more than 4 gb
[06:31] <curiousx> yep is the kernel issue
[06:32] <tuc> curiousx: they also have similar kernel
[06:32] <MestreLion> very scientific approach...
[06:32] <tuc> curiousx: so tell me how to isntlal th enew ver
[06:32] <curiousx> tuc: how many ram do ya have?
[06:33] <curiousx> tuc: how much* ram do ya have?
[06:33] <MestreLion> curiousx: since tuc seems to be ignoring all my lines, please tell him to try Precise LiveCD before he jumps in a risky kernel backport
[06:34] <curiousx> MestreLion: is a good idea but he have to download, i dont know if he want to =P
[06:34] <MestreLion> sure, downloading is a pain... it's so much easier just to double-click some .debs :P
[06:34] <curiousx> tuc: read this: <MestreLion> curiousx: since tuc seems to be ignoring all my lines, please tell him to try Precise LiveCD before he jumps in a risky kernel backport
[06:35] <MestreLion> who cares if this is a completely different kernel *branch* ?
[06:35] <curiousx> tuc: if you want you can taste the kernel with te iso, or you can just install the kernel, as you like
[06:36] <hellknight> quit
[06:36] <tuc> MastreLion/curiousx: sorry i actually went away for a whil now i am back
[06:37] <tuc> MastreLion/curiousx: let me read the lines
[06:37] <curiousx> ok
[06:37] <goddard> do i need selinux on a desktop?
[06:37] <sacarlson> tuc; curiousx: even after the install of a new kernel the old kernel is kept in the grub2 menu so if the new one fails you can always go back to the old one that still worked to some degree
[06:37] <tuc> MastreLion/curiousx: 2Gb
[06:37] <emily_> anyone?  I'm having a hard time accessing the wifi even though Ubuntu detects the network
[06:38] <emily_> I'm online through WinBlows atm
[06:38] <tuc> sacarlson: yes you are right, i have seen that.. by the way any method to remove that
[06:38] <tuc> MastreLion/curiousx: 2Gb ram
[06:38] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx: 2Gb ram
[06:38] <sacarlson> tuc: I wouldn't bother removing it unless your system has less than a 6gb hard drive,  it doesn't touch your ram mem
[06:39] <curiousx> yep that what it is sacarlson =)
[06:39] <sacarlson> curiousx: I'm speaking or hard drive space not ram space
[06:39] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  what next
[06:40] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  what next to do
[06:40] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  can i purchase any laptop ram 2gb and add it to may laptop
[06:40] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  or is there some laptop specific ram
[06:40] <sacarlson> tuc: find the linux image you want to install in synaptic and install it or apt-get install linux???
[06:41] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  the linux-image i want is not availabel in synaptic
[06:41] <sacarlson> tuc: 511meg is all you need for ubuntu  2gb is more than enuf
[06:41] <curiousx> sacarlson: i am asking him for ram because i have to chose betwean PAE or not PAE
[06:41] <sacarlson> tuc: then find the ppa you want and add that to synaptic
[06:42] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  where do i find the ppa
[06:42] <curiousx> yeah another good idea, Linux has a PPA as well
[06:42] <chroot> hi, is there any  program that allow me to search a image in my computer?
[06:43] <chroot> or is there any program that can compare the two given images?
[06:43] <MestreLion> chroot: define "compare images"
[06:43] <emily_> can anyone help me or am I stuck like Chuck? :P
[06:44] <CFHowlett_> chroot   http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/compare/#compare
[06:44] <sacarlson> tuc: I'm not sure what kernel you wanted but here is one I found in ppa https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[06:44] <CFHowlett_> chroot   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/perceptualdiff.1.html
[06:44] <cnhezhong> 找回irc密码怎么找回来？我有注册时候的邮箱。请问下命令怎么输入
[06:44] <curiousx> ok, i cant find the PPA for the linux kernel =P
[06:44] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson:  i want kernel 3.2.12
[06:45] <CFHowlett_> !cn|cnhezhong
[06:45] <chroot> MestreLion, I means I want to use face reconition in my computer?
[06:46] <chroot> so I need to compare a picture to a given picture.
[06:46] <MestreLion> tuc: use TAB to autocomplete people's nicknames... you don't have to type them by hand, only the first letters
[06:46] <eSoul> Im preparing to to dd my ubuntu 11.04 boot and / partitions to another drive.  I know grub2 uses uuid to find the boot drive, is there anything i should do to change the behavior/fix it
[06:46] <curiousx> tuc: ok, but i cant not find the PPA if you want we can install it from .deb
[06:46] <curiousx> it's easy
[06:46] <tuc> MastreLion / curiousx / sacarlson: wher's the deb
[06:47] <tuc> MestreLion, ok thanks this is very helpful
[06:48] <curiousx> here it is: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2.12-precise/
[06:48] <tuc> curiousx, where do i get the deb
[06:48] <Snarbafulators> I WANT TO GET RAPED IN THE ASS BY NIGGERS!
[06:48] <Snarbafulators> I want them to pound me
[06:48] <MestreLion> tuc: not only helpful, it will prevent you from mispelling :P
[06:48] <goddard> do you need to do any tweaking to app armor on a desktop?
[06:48] <Snarbafulators> taking turns until I bleed
[06:48] <FloodBot1> Snarbafulators: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <sacarlson> tuc: for that far forward looks like you might have to try this http://www.ramoonus.nl/2012/01/07/linux-kernel-3-2-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-linux/
[06:49] <curiousx> give me a second there a an order to install, first you have to install the headers, then the kernel
[06:49] <CFHowlett_> !ops|Snarbafulators
[06:49] <MestreLion> chroot: I have no idea, sorry...
[06:49] <bazhang> thanks CFHowlett_
[06:49] <CFHowlett_> bazhang   full moon tonight
[06:49] <chroot> that's ok.
[06:49] <chroot> thanks anyway
[06:49] <Squid1> hello all
[06:49] <CFHowlett_> Squid1   greetings
[06:50] <IMeerkat> What's up fellow ubuntuers
[06:50] <CFHowlett_> IMeerkat   greetings
[06:50] <goddard> yo
[06:51] <Squid1> hello meerkat
[06:51] <MestreLion> chroot: for that one, google and software center searches are your friend...
[06:51] <goddard> do you need to do any tweaking to app armor on a desktop?
[06:51] <goddard> duckduckgo is also your friend
[06:51] <MestreLion> chroot: I'm sure there must be *any* face recog software available
[06:51] <emily_> hey everyone, am I being a total idiot or can someone help me pls?
[06:51] <tuc> curiousx, what next
[06:51] <chroot> yes, you are right.
[06:51] <IMeerkat> Made the switch from Ubuntu recently. I was a Debian user :)
[06:51] <chroot> i am using google now.
[06:52] <emily_> I can't access the wifi that the hotel that I'm staying at is providing, even though Ubuntu detects it
[06:52] <Squid1> made half a switch to ubuntu
[06:52] <Squid1> i like what i see so far
[06:52] <curiousx> tuc: in this order: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891827/
[06:52] <Squid1> gonna take some getting used to
[06:52] <IMeerkat> Emily use an ssh tunnel
[06:52] <emily_> I am online via WinBlows atm
[06:52] <emily_> ssh tunnel? how do I do that IMeerkat?
[06:53] <curiousx> you have to do double click on the .deb pakages in this order
[06:53] <curiousx> tuc: you have to do double click on the .deb pakages in this order
[06:53] <IMeerkat> Do you have a web server?
[06:53] <curiousx> this way will install 3.2.12 32 bits PAE
[06:53] <IMeerkat> Ie your own website?
[06:53] <emily_> yeah IMeerkat it's the login page
[06:53] <curiousx> which recognize more than 4 gb ram
[06:54] <ome> How can I list partations with they are label ?
[06:54] <curiousx> do you copy : roger that =P xD
[06:55] <curiousx> i am latino and i like the inglish language =)
[06:55] <curiousx> but i dont know to write very well =(
[06:56] <IMeerkat> Anyone here using tor?
[06:56] <UrB> emily_: so you can reach the hotel wifi login page with Ubuntu too or not?
[06:56] <ome> IMeerkat: why ?
[06:56] <IMeerkat> Just wondering
[06:56] <curiousx> IMeerkat: install vidalia tor's GUI
[06:56] <emily_> no UrB I can't even access the login page, it tells me that it is unable to load page
[06:57] <curiousx> IMeerkat: sudo apt-get install vidalia
[06:57] <ome> IMeerkat: it's safe to assume there is lots of people who does - at least in IRC/freenode, if not this channel specifically.
[06:57] <IMeerkat> Oh emily google ssh tunneling hak5. Easy way to tunnel to your webserver and get free hotel wifi
[06:57] <UrB> emily_: did it fail to connect to the wifi altogether?
[06:58] <tuc> curiousx, ok am installin in the order
[06:58] <UrB> I've had experiences with hotel wifis where it took several connection attempts to get it actually running
[06:58] <curiousx> ok, =)
[06:58] <emily_> what do I do, open up a terminal window IMeerkat?
[06:58] <emily_> yes UrB it failed to connect even though Ubuntu detected the WiFi
[06:58] <tuc> curiousx, i need 64 bit
[06:58] <IMeerkat> Curiousx: I know I have it
[06:59] <tuc> curiousx, i am using ubuntu 64bit
[06:59] <IMeerkat> Emily it will only work if you can point to a webserver
[06:59] <emily_> maybe if I tried harder UrB?
[07:00] <UrB> emily_: could be that dhcp failed
[07:00] <emily_> maybe wasn't so impatient?
[07:00] <emily_> dhcp?
[07:00] <tuc> MestreLion, i need 64bit
[07:00] <emily_> sorry I don't' know that
[07:00] <UrB> emily_: the process where your laptop gets a network address from the hotel wifi
[07:00] <emily_> ah I c
[07:00] <emily_> interesting
[07:00] <MestreLion> tuc: not necessarily
[07:00] <emily_> what does that mean exactly UrB?
[07:01] <UrB> not much from the end user view point, it just won't work then :)
[07:01] <curiousx> mmm... it doesn't matter when you turn on the notebook you can chose betean 32 bits or 64 bits kernel, the new which are installing right now and the old
[07:01] <IMeerkat> I'm surprised so many people here don't use an IRc bouncer. Odd.
[07:01] <curiousx> or if you want, you can install also the 3.2.12 64 bits as you like
[07:01] <emily_> so maybe I should just be patient and keep trying until it sticks UrB?
[07:01] <tuc> MestreLion, how can in install 32bit kernel when am using 64bit
[07:01] <UrB> but I'd try few times with Ubuntu again switching the wifi off/on between the attempts
[07:01] <MestreLion> tuc: i mean... you don't HAVE to use 64bits just because of your RAM size...
[07:01] <ome> emily_: computers doesn't talk names, they talk numbers, so when you type google.com it has to be changed to googles ip address, something like 74.125.237.129
[07:02] <MestreLion> tuc: oh, sorry... yes, if your current system is 64, go 64
[07:02] <emily_> I know that ome but thanx :)  I just didn't know what that four letter protocol was that's all, I'm an Ubuntu newbie
[07:02] <ome> emily_: fair enough.
[07:02] <UrB> emily_: same thing happens under windows too, it's not really operating system related
[07:03] <emily_> right? ok UrB
[07:03] <curiousx> tuc: this step i gove ya, will install PAE which mean that your kernel will recognize mor than 4 gb ram, i taste that
[07:03] <emily_> so then maybe if I just acted persistently and kept trying
[07:03] <IMeerkat> Hotel wifi is brutal
[07:03] <curiousx> i ran 8 gb in 32 bit with PAE
[07:03] <emily_> I turned the comp on and off and it still didn't take...
[07:03] <UrB> emily_: you don't have to turn the whole computer on/off, just do that to wifi
[07:04] <emily_> hmmm
[07:04] <UrB> that should be enough to start from a "fresh table"
[07:04] <MestreLion> curiousx: but his current system is 64 already
[07:04] <IMeerkat> Emily what kind of laptop do you have?
[07:04] <tuc> curiousx, but i have only 2gb ram and currently using ubuntu 64bit
[07:04] <emily_> guess I'll have to fiddle with it then...
[07:04] <emily_> I have a lenovo
[07:04] <ome> emily_: Do you get any specific error ?
[07:04] <IMeerkat> Your wifi card should be supported
[07:04] <ome> or it just says connection error ?
[07:05] <tuc> curiousx, how can install 32bit kernels.. plz send 64bit link
[07:05] <UrB> emily_: possibly stupid questio - has the wifi worked on ubuntu before?
[07:05] <curiousx> ok MestreLion tuc
[07:05] <IMeerkat> Might help open terminal type: sudo apt-get update
[07:05] <emily_> um yeah it says 'unable to connect' and yeah it has UrB this is just something new that's come up
[07:05] <curiousx> mmm... give a minute to do a paste with the steps in order
[07:06] <tuc> curiousx, ok
[07:06] <emily_> 'you are now offline' is what it says I think
[07:06] <curiousx> oh! yours programs wa installed for 64 bits i forgot that =P
[07:06] <emily_> the wifi worked on Ubuntu before, it seemed to work ok when I turned the comp off then on again
[07:07] <emily_> but just today I kept trying to get online and it wouldn't but I'll try that, I will try turning the wifi on and off
[07:07] <UrB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1330428
[07:07] <UrB> you are no alone with the issues :)
[07:07] <UrB> +t
[07:07] <emily_> not sure how to go about doing that but....
[07:07] <ome> emily_: Do you know the wifi chipset or the driver you are currenty using ?
[07:07] <vicium> Anyway, Can either of you reccomend a template/dist to run using a ECS? I've found that ubuntu 11.04 x64 doesnt really do it for me, the kernel/whatever you would refer it to, is poorly optimized for 32bit applications, if that makes any sense.. I run a mumble server/cs server/apache/mysql
[07:07] <emily_> ummmmm nope sorry ome
[07:08] <UrB> emily_: type lsusb and/or lspci in terminal
[07:08] <vicium> 11.10 is not available :/
[07:08] <UrB> it'll list your devices
[07:08] <curiousx> tuc: the steps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891839/
[07:08] <IMeerkat> Vicium:? ?
[07:08] <chroot> well,  is there a program that can compare two pictures and if the two equal then return a value or exit suceessfully?
[07:09] <tuc> curiousx, thnx
[07:09] <vicium> IMeerkat: Yes?
[07:09] <vicium> Am i confusing? :P
[07:09] <curiousx> tuc: np
[07:09] <apple_cat> chroot: Why would it need to be a program that compares pictures, rather than just any file type?
[07:09] <fbdystang> Hi, I have a ubuntu server that I can ping, but when I try to pull up the webpage, it times out. Please advise
[07:09] <vicium> Well like.. Is there any pros to downgrading from a 11.04 template to a 10.04?
[07:10] <vicium> Or perhaps dumping ubuntu totally :p
[07:10] <chroot> apple_cat,  because I want to use face recognition.
[07:10] <vicium> (elastic cloud server)
[07:10] <chroot> so i need compare two pictures and need a result
[07:10] <chroot> apple_cat,  any idea?
[07:11] <apple_cat> chroot: imagemagick might have something, there's a good library called 'opencv' that might have some apps made that will do what you want
[07:11] <Crooks_mobile> i know libraries exist that deal with this chroot.  youll likely have to code some thing yourself though
[07:11] <chroot> ok, you guys, i know opencv
[07:12] <chroot> and apple_cat , i want to use opencv
[07:12] <chroot> and then
[07:12] <chroot> ?
[07:13] <apple_cat> !ask | chroot
[07:14] <chroot> then I need to install the opencv lib right?
[07:14] <chroot> and then learn to use the opencv and write the program i want ?
[07:14] <UrB> emily_: is the hotel network secured or just with the login page?
[07:14] <olegb> chroot: asking google brings up: http://pdiff.sourceforge.net/
[07:15] <apple_cat> chroot: That's the general idea, yes
[07:15] <emily_> just with the login page, it is an open wifi UrB
[07:15] <UrB> ok
[07:15] <chroot> but if i just want to use the idea app, and not to design it myself?
[07:15] <chroot> it seems a lot of work.
[07:16] <apple_cat> chroot: Yes, designing your own facial recognition software could be a lot of work
[07:16] <chroot> olegb,  i have tried that, not ideal.
[07:16] <chroot> apple_cat,  ok, not a big deal, i will do it myself.
[07:17] <apple_cat> chroot: Good luck and have fun : )
[07:17] <chroot> oh, apple_cat  , do you know how to recored voice under terminal in ubuntu?
[07:17] <chroot> last one
[07:18] <CFHowlett> chroot   acrecord?
[07:18] <szx> you are talking in Russian?
[07:18] <chroot> CFHowlett,  yes, i installed it , and when i type the command , it dosen't work.
[07:18] <chroot> could you show me how to use it.
[07:19] <chroot> i am using laptop
[07:19] <apple_cat> chroot: What is the error message from the program?
[07:19] <CFHowlett> chroot   wait 1 - researching
[07:20] <chroot> arecord -f cd -d 10 -t raw | lame - out.mp3
[07:20] <chroot> Recording raw data 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[07:20] <chroot> Warning: unsupported audio format
[07:20] <chroot> like this
[07:21] <fernando_> !LIST
[07:22] <curiousx> chroot: if yoou do: arecord -f cd -d 10 -t wav | lame - out.mp3
[07:22] <fernando_> XDCC SEND#
[07:22] <chroot> curiousx,  yes, exactly
[07:22] <curiousx> or: arecord -f cd -d 10 -t ogg | lame - out.mp3   or:  arecord -f cd -d 10 -t mp3 | lame - out.mp3
[07:22] <fernando_> MARIO PARTY
[07:23] <chroot> curiousx,  not work too, it says ogg and mp3 unsupported
[07:24] <chroot> curiousx,  is there any other replacement?
[07:25] <curiousx> chroot: try with: (voc, wav, raw or au)
[07:25] <Tyrope> Greetings, I'm trying to have PHP print in the nl-NL locale, but appearantly it's not in locale -a, what's the apt-get package name for the Dutch locale files?
[07:25] <chroot> ok
[07:26] <curiousx> chroot: do: arecord --help | grep '^-t'    and you will see what i wrote to ya
[07:26] <chroot> curiousx,  wav is worked
[07:26] <chroot> but how to play it
[07:27] <curiousx> and the other supported format as well taste it if you want
[07:27] <kronos1987> hi
[07:27] <kronos1987> hi
[07:27] <curiousx> and also the others... =P
[07:27] <Angablade> kronos1987, yes?
[07:27] <Angablade> kronos1987, yes?
[07:29] <Angablade> Well, I helped as much as I could.
[07:29] <chroot> only wav supported
[07:30] <curiousx> sorry, i'm done
[07:31] <chroot> ok, thank you all the same
[07:31] <curiousx> i'll left the channel salut a tout le monde =P
[07:31] <curiousx> cya
[07:32] <joint> i was zerocool
[07:36] <jayeph> sup dawgys
[07:37] <Asifan> hi ubuntu people
[07:37] <CFHowlett> Asifan   greetings
[07:37] <Asifan> i have a macbook pro intel 2008, looking for an ubuntu that i can install in it, any help?
[07:37] <howardstern> hello, is there an easy way to append all ascii files called *.m into one large file using some command?
[07:39] <CFHowlett> Asifan   start here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[07:41] <sabgenton> if I install a dependency with dpkg -s bladep.deb then run apt-get install thing_that_needs_that_dep
[07:41] <sabgenton> will it pick up bladep?
[07:45] <Andale> Hello, I'm sorry for my English. I connect to Linux server with sshfs. I use gedit to write text files. With no check on "create backup before to save" if I create a file or modify a not my file I have noproblem, but if I try to modify a my file gedit write me that I haven't permission to saved. Someone could help me?
[07:46] <sazawal> anyone using JACK control (qjackctl)?
[07:46] <chroot> what 's jack control used for?
[07:46] <sazawal> it is used for connecting your audio devices to the PC
[07:46] <CFHowlett> sazawal   rarely ...
[07:47] <sazawal> like I use it for connecting my guitar to the pc and processing the sound
[07:47] <sazawal> i recently installed this jack control and i found that it suspends pulseaudio as soon as started
[07:48] <sazawal> is there a way to play youtube audio with jack control running
[07:48] <sazawal> becuase the system sounds are disabled
[07:53] <Kartagis> I have mac as host os and ubuntu as a guest os. I don't have /proc/acpi/dsdt. is it because I run it in a vm?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> !hardware
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> any package for ubuntu that can checkdisk ntfs?
[08:03] <sabgenton> How does apt-get know a package is installed
[08:04] <sabgenton> what does it mark/change when it installs a package
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: you can press 'installed software' in software centre
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: or install synaptic
[08:06] <sabgenton> lotuspsychje: my question is not how do I see what is installed
[08:06] <meerk> whats going on everyone?
[08:07] <sabgenton> I want to know how the apt-get command knows a package is installed
[08:07] <sabgenton> say I apt-get install foo
[08:07] <sabgenton> then again
[08:07] <sabgenton> say I apt-get install foo
[08:07] <sazawal> anyone using JACK control (qjackctl) ?
[08:07] <kylen> yes
[08:07] <sabgenton> It says it's allready installed
[08:07] <kylen> sazawal: yes
[08:07] <sabgenton> How does it know this
[08:08] <sabgenton> ?
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: maybe it checks dkpg list
[08:08] <meerk> sabgenton: whats the problem? see if i can help
[08:08] <kylen> sazawal: qjackctl is good :)
[08:11] <Kartagis> I have mac as host os and ubuntu as a guest os. I don't have /proc/acpi/dsdt. is it because I run it in a vm?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Yes.
[08:15] <bluefrog> sabgenton,  /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:16] <meerk> if your trying to find a deb pulled from apt just ls /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:22] <BuffBuffBuff> I am trying to trace details (apt-get install crash) $ crash  apply it says "crash: cannot find booted kernel -- please enter namelist argument" How to trace it?
[08:23] <Andale> I connect to Linux server with sshfs. I use gedit to write text files. With no check on "create backup before to save" if I create a file or modify a not my file I have noproblem, but if I try to modify a my file gedit write me that I haven't permission to saved. Someone could help me?
[08:24] <Asifan> there is a channel #tor if you need help with that
[08:24] <Asifan> sorry wrong channel hehe
[08:25] <meerk> use nano :)
[08:25] <BuffBuffBuff> Why it says: crash: vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic: not a supported file format
[08:26] <meerk> different kernel is my guess
[08:27] <Andale> @meerk are you told with me?
[08:28] <BuffBuffBuff> Why did my system shows: sun      tty7         :0               Mon Mar 19 10:00 - crash  (02:16)
[08:28] <meerk> Andale: ?
[08:29] <Andale> meerk "use nano :)" is referred to me?
[08:29] <meerk> buffbuffbuff could you give me some details regarding what your trying to do? This is a boot error?
[08:29] <meerk> andale yes
[08:30] <meerk> cd into your directory and run sudo nano (the filename)
[08:31] <meerk> andele: you here?
[08:32] <anonymous> sfgdyg
[08:32] <BuffBuffBuff> meerk, After boot working mode, it crash
[08:33] <meerk> i take it your booting with live usb?
[08:34] <BuffBuffBuff> meerk, no installed in disk permanent setup. Boot to buntu and working such as Blender, Gimp. And then suddently crash screen is freez
[08:35] <BuffBuffBuff> meerk, after boot the log shows "crash"
[08:36] <meerk> have you updated recently with apt update?
[08:37] <BuffBuffBuff> meerk, yes
[08:40] <Andale> meerk I'm here.
[08:40] <Fudge> hi looking for an auto mounter tool for gnome2, to mount any ntfs partitions etc
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Does nautilus not do what you need?
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> Fudge: pysdm
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !info pysdm | Fudge
[08:41] <Fudge> Jordan_U  its for noobs, i want them to just appear on the desktop
[08:42] <Fudge> thank you
[08:42] <meerk> fudge: gparted with ntfsprogs
[08:44] <sabgenton> has anyone tried partclone ?
[08:45] <sabgenton> it can copy ext3/4 like dd but it's filesystem aware AFAIK
[08:46] <sabgenton> or does any one know another tool like it (filesystem aware)?
[08:47] <vlt_> Hello. Where can I find a list of features that are working in current LTS's evolution?
[08:47] <meerk> why not just use dd if
[08:47] <sabgenton> meerk: because its way too slow
[08:47] <sabgenton> and doesn't know what a filesystem is
[08:48] <sabgenton> (but it's still a great multipurpose tool)
[08:48] <theadmin> sabgenton: Can't you just tar stuff up with a few --exclude's (for the other filesystems)?
[08:49] <theadmin> Or... Well... That's not exactly cloning, though
[08:49] <sabgenton> theadmin: yes you can (or rsync)
[08:49] <sabgenton> but cloning has it's purpose
[08:50] <sabgenton> theadmin: I've always use rsync because taring looked a bit more scarey to me, how do you find it?
[08:51] <mike_> hello?
[08:51] <theadmin> sabgenton: Um, well, I don't honestly do backups much, but I don't see why tar would fail... Works for me when I try. Just gotta make sure to exclude /dev, /proc, /sys, /tmp, /home and some other things I guess
[08:52] <sabgenton> yeah I've seen examples of taring your whole OS
[08:52] <Guest43600> hi guys pretty new here my buddy is beginning to teach me programming
[08:53] <meerk> welcome to the ubuntu community guest
[08:53] <Guest43600> thanks
[08:53] <sabgenton> :)
[08:53] <Guest43600> i feel like a fish otu of water
[08:53] <Guest43600> out
[08:54] <Guest43600> don't even know how to get a real name here
[08:54] <theadmin> Guest43600: /nick whatever
[08:54] <theadmin> !register | Guest43600
[08:56] <imeerk> anyone here a fan of twit.tv?
[08:56] <newb> there we go i am newb
[08:56] <imeerk> newb: lol
[08:56] <newb> hello people i am newb, you can call me........newb
[08:57] <newb> so what does everyone talk about in here?
[08:57] <imeerk> so what brings you here newb?
[08:57] <newb> my buddy who is a real geek
[08:58] <bazhang> !ot | newb imeerk
[08:58] <newb> he said to get this so i got this
[08:58] <theadmin> newb: This is the Ubuntu support channel, for support questions only.
[08:58] <imeerk> pretty much world domination from our shells
[08:58] <newb> so how do i get other irc channels so i can talk about whatever?
[08:59] <bazhang> !alis | newb
[08:59] <newb> ok you lost me already
[08:59] <bazhang> newb, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:59] <newb> where is offtopic?
[09:00] <bazhang> newb, I just told you
[09:00] <newb> thank you i got it
[09:00] <newb> see why i picked the name newb?
[09:03] <ahaha> Hello, can someone help me to unistall my Xubuntu 10.04.2 64bits? I am dual booting linux with windows. I want to change distro, so.
[09:04] <riktking> hi, i need to do a reinstall of ubuntu 10.4.4 onto a new hdd as i cantclone my existing drive onto my new one via clonezilla or DD_rescue. i have my /home ona seperate drive, and would like to keep it that way,is there an option on install? also looking to keep all the packages, have a list of them, do i just copy sources.list as well then re-install from that?
[09:04] <riktking> thanks
[09:04] <nprezident> i compilied compat-wireless-2012-03-18
[09:05] <nprezident> i compilied compat-wireless-2012-03-18 for ubuntu 11.10 and now my broadcom wireless is not detected by ubuntu only my rtl8187 is there any way i cawn get ubuntu to read my broadcom driver ?
[09:05] <marxjohnson> ahaha: you can just install over the top, install the new distro to the sane partition and it'll be overwritten
[09:05] <geirha> ahaha: Just install the new distro over xubuntu
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> loose the windows :p
[09:06] <nprezident> ?
[09:06] <ahaha> Thanks, I'll try something with/
[09:06] <ahaha> bye for now
[09:08] <imeerk> windoze 8 is brutal i tell ya
[09:10] <kylen> imeerk: hehe:)
[09:10] <marxjohnson> riktking: if you do advanced partitioning at install you can choose an existing partition for /home, just make sure you dont tell it to
[09:10] <kylen> imeerk: true
[09:11] <marxjohnson> format it
[09:11] <riktking> marxjohnson, ok thanks thought that would be the case
[09:11] <riktking> do you know if i can reinstall all my packages using the sources list and also a list of installed packages?
[09:13] <ilyekkakai> How do I either (a) get nouvea nividia drivers back again after purging them or (b) get nividia proprietary drivers active AND in use?
[09:15] <phil_phys> I have a asus eee pc 1101ha i want to install ubuntu but i'm not able how can i do??
[09:18] <imeerk> phil_phys you would need to make a bootable usb
[09:18] <sveinse> I have a Natty embedded system (armel) in which network manager is used. I have problems with NM jumping back to an adhoc SSID if the link is a bit poor on my normal infrastructure WiFi. How can I prevent NM from jumping ssid's like this?
[09:19] <ahaha> Hello again. How to unistall Xubuntu 10.04.2 64bit, I'm dual booting my linux with windows. I can't find xubuntu folder in partition where it's installed (browsing from windows), it's taking space, but even formatting that partition still keeps the linux in there.
[09:19] <student> why dovecot moving mail to file '1' instead of recipient's maildir?????????????
[09:20] <theadmin> ahaha: Um, you're not making sense, how did you install? With wubi?
[09:20] <ahaha> theadmin: I installed it with CD
[09:21] <theadmin> ahaha: Well, you can't technically browse a Linux partition from Windows, so again, you're not making sense.
[09:21] <theadmin> Unless you're using some weird driver. If that's so, you should say that.
[09:21] <ahaha> anyway, how am I supposed to unistall that distro?
[09:22] <phil_phys> imeerk: I tried to make a bootable usb with ubuntu 11.10, 10.04, xubuntu but all they doesn't work
[09:22] <student> dovcot.conf http://pastebin.com/UcJmutid
[09:22] <worm> ahaha, Can you find Linux partition by right click on "Computer" and click on System Management and use the "Disk management section?"
[09:23] <ahaha> have't check that yet, I want to install Ubuntu, that;s why I'm unistalling my Xubuntu. I'll try to find it, worm.
[09:24] <maxagaz> how to indent my text in gedit ?
[09:24] <maxagaz> I can't find it in the menu
[09:24] <theadmin> maxagaz: gedit doesn't have auto-indent I'd think
[09:25] <maxagaz> theadmin, it's in the prefs
[09:25] <maxagaz> theadmin, but only with a checkbox
[09:25] <worm> ahaha If you can find the partition there, then you can delete those partitions or format them. But to do so you need to uninstall grub first.
[09:26] <ilyekkakai> nvidia proprietay drivers don't work with my nvidia card. how do I get nouvea drivers back?
[09:27] <student> !ping
[09:27] <student> !ping argc argv
[09:28] <student> ubottu: moron
[09:28] <oCean> student: please don't mess with the bot
[09:28] <riktking> marxjohnson, do i set the new drive to be mount point / and the home drive to be mount point /home
[09:29] <ilyekkakai> Does anyone know how to restore the nouvea video drivers once they've been purged?
[09:29] <ilyekkakai> I re-installed them with apt, but they still don't show up as an option in hardware drivers
[09:31] <theadmin> ilyekkakai: The "hardware drivers" tool is only for propertiary drivers. You should remove the nvidia drivers and the xorg.conf they created after reinstalling noveau and reboot.
[09:32] <ilyekkakai> theadmin, what is the best way to remove all nvidia proprietary drivers from my system?
[09:32] <theadmin> ilyekkakai: How did you install them?
[09:32] <ilyekkakai> theadmin, they were installed through the additional hardware gui
[09:33] <ilyekkakai> theadmin, that shoudl be "additional drivers" gui
[09:33] <sveinse> I'm running natty and every time I reboot, I need to run "sudo update-binfmts --enable qemu-arm" to be able to run armel binaries on intel. Is there a recent policy change disabling these binfmts at every boot?
[09:33] <Tejas> Hi All,
[09:33] <Tejas> I got error when i am installing a any application
[09:33] <Tejas> Error: Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:33] <Tejas> postfix
[09:33] <Tejas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:33] <Tejas> Need Help!!
[09:33] <FloodBot1> Tejas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <theadmin> ilyekkakai: Doesn't that have a remove option? (I don't quite remember)
[09:34] <ilyekkakai> yes, but I wasn't sure that it 100% removes them. I want to be 100% sure they are gone.
[09:34] <ahaha> Hi again. I have Xubuntu 10.04.2 64-bit dual boot with my windows. How am I supposed to unistall my xubuntu without reformatting everything in hard disk? When I'm on windows, I can't find anything about linux, xubuntu just took 30gigs of one of my partitions, that partition has 30gbs less now. How am I supposed to unistall xubuntu?
[09:35] <theadmin> ilyekkakai: The package is "nvidia-current", I beleive
[09:36] <ilyekkakai> theadmin, thanks
[09:36] <theadmin> ahaha: 1) Get EASEUS Partition Manager for Windows, or boot a GParted livecd. 2) Remove the Ubuntu partition. 3) Resize the Windows partition that became smaller back to it's original size. 4) Fix Windows MBR.
[09:36] <ahaha> thanks a lot, theadmin
[09:41] <bal> how can i pack updated packages for anothre computer without internet?
[09:41] <Marchitos> has anyone experience with optimus tecnology?
[09:41] <Marchitos> my ubuntu eat battery, as i am not able to shutdown the nvidia chip
[09:43] <Orky> Marchitos check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[09:45] <bal> how to instll updates to offline pc (pc without internet)
[09:45] <bal> ?
[09:45] <ejv> bal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[09:45] <bal> ejv: thank you
[09:46] <ejv> bal: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Offline_apt-get_update
[09:50] <thomaspr> ... any gwibber specialists present ?
[09:55] <Kingsy> guys, when I log into my server it says 2 packages can be updated. 1 is a security update. but when you use sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[09:55] <g105b> Can someone guide me re-installing Unity? No matter what I do, it keeps falling back to unity2d
[09:57] <Lantizia> Kingsy, it'll most likely need dist-upgrade if it's something that slightly conflicts or has changed the base installation
[09:58] <Kingsy> Lantizia: I am using 10.04 LTS (its on a server)
[09:58] <Lantizia> Kingsy, yeah try dist-upgrade instead of upgrade, it'll show the upgrade it's on about then
[09:59] <Kingsy> Lantizia: that worked.. so what is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade ?
[10:00] <llutz_> Kingsy: man apt-get     (upgrade will not pull any new packages into the system, so it didn't update some)
[10:00] <Kingsy> llutz_: thanks
[10:00] <Lantizia> apt-get upgrade : This command installs the latest versions of any out-of-date packages on your system. It never installs a package that is not yet installed.
[10:00] <Lantizia> apt-get dist-upgrade: This command installs up-to-date version of packages, and may install additional packages.
[10:01] <jonte> Hey, I'm looking for a really fast PDF reader.. Viewing "complex" PDFs in Evince is choppy (on a pretty speedy machine). Is there any reader which pre-renders pages and stores in memory or something?
[10:01] <rumpe1> jonte, how "complex"? several hundred MB? some GB?...
[10:01] <Lantizia> jonte, no idea on the prerendering but foxit is pretty quick but it's nonfree (but still freeware) and has a linux version
[10:02] <jonte> rumpe1, Not neccessarily big, but when there's a large amount of formulas it tends to be slower
[10:02] <jonte> Lantizia, Hm, I should try that
[10:04] <Lantizia> jonte, oh cool they have debian packages now :P http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/download.php
[10:05] <Lantizia> used to be some crappy bin file and the gui looked like GTK1 - looks a lot more polished now
[10:05] <cnttucme> What is that for Lantizia
[10:05] <Kingsy> Lantizia: thanks
[10:05] <Lantizia> cnttucme, Foxit Reader (nonfree pdf reader)
[10:05] <Lantizia> Kingsy, np
[10:06] <cnttucme> Ah a none open source linux software? lolwat
[10:06] <jonte> Lantizia, Thanks! I'm installing it just now.. I've used it on windows, and I found it nice there.. I can't remember if it was faster than evince though ;)
[10:06] <Lantizia> jonte, yeah whenever I'm stuck on windows I use it - takes an ice age for adobe reader to download it's firefox extension, download itself, unpack itself, install itself
[10:07] <Lantizia> like preparing to land on the moon
[10:07] <drounse> do computers from schools have special thingss to prevent booting from a cd or usb?
[10:07] <jonte> Wow, this is indeed light years faster than evince! Thanks a bunch Lantizia
[10:08] <thomaspr> Is llutz german ?
[10:08] <Lantizia> drounse, depends on the pc, the school - no way anyone can answer that for you
[10:08] <pc> hi everybody
[10:08] <Lantizia> jonte, np
[10:08] <cnttucme> Is "llutz", German?*
[10:09] <pc> can someone help me to fix the low volume on my pc thx in advance
[10:09] <drounse> Lantizia its just i have this p4 from a school and i can never install anything without trouble, ive only managed to get linux kernel 2.x i cant boot with 3.x
[10:09] <cnttucme> pc: check the hardware switch
[10:10] <pc> ive a inner speaker in my ibm pc
[10:10] <cnttucme> pc: Do you have a button on your keyboard that looks like a speaker?
[10:11] <Lantizia> drounse, probably some minor glitch between the chipset it has or some other peripheral or onboard system that you'll need to give some extra boot flags for.    is the pc a known manufacturer/brand/model? if so i'd start googling for others having that issue
[10:11] <pc> ive tried with alsamixe but everything is on high level
[10:11] <Lantizia> pc, is it a lappy?
[10:12] <pc> no
[10:12] <pc> ibm dekstop pc
[10:12] <Lantizia> speakers on monitor or separate speakers?
[10:12] <drounse> Lantizia, its a gateway slim i can find it online, but ive never found anyone with that exact computer having that problem
[10:12] <llutz_> drounse: checked for BIOS-updates?
[10:13] <pc> the speakers are inside of the pc
[10:13] <drounse> llutz_ no but ill check now
[10:14] <Lantizia> pc, have you ever had those speakers inside the pc louder on another OS?
[10:14] <pc> yes on xp it was working excellent
[10:14] <drounse> llutz, http://support.gateway.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?partNumber=2800471 idk which one to pick
[10:14] <cnttucme> Driver issue?
[10:15] <llutz_> drounse: sry no www here
[10:15] <drounse> llutz_ no what?
[10:15] <Lantizia> pc, well all I can say is run alsamixer as by default you might find lots of them only half way or 75% - check the normal ubuntu volume controls and speaker configuration (mono or 2 speaker i'm guessing)
[10:15] <llutz_> drounse: sry no www (no access to fancy colorfull http-sites) here
[10:16] <drounse> llutz_ ohh ok
[10:16] <llutz_> drounse: can't check your link though. check your mainboard/bios (dmidecode) to get more details, maybe that helps to find the correct version
[10:19] <Nucleus> Hello, i have a problem. i tried to do a backup of my Home folder, ive searched in the ubuntu foruns, followed the instructions, something about rename the home folder to old folder and the new backup folder to new folder etc. the last thing to do was rename the home folder to old folder but an error occured. I cant rename it. I restarted the system and now when my ubuntu starts this error appears " could not update ICE authority file
[10:19] <zth> Nucleus, can you access a terminal?
[10:20] <Nucleus> Of course.
[10:20] <pc> i made it on 75% now i dont hear anything
[10:20] <pc> just 100% makes a bit sound
[10:20] <pc> is there a way how to install a new updated driver
[10:21] <cnttucme> Check your chips website
[10:21] <tata> Now I installed ubuntu 11.10 and in gnu grub I dont have windows, only new ubuntu and old ubuntu, where is windows?
[10:21] <zth> Nucleus, i PMed you
[10:21] <senayar> sudo update-grub
[10:22] <tata> it is all?
[10:23] <pc> anyone can guide me pls how to update my audio driver
[10:23] <gorski> what is user attribute package, i can't see my public key in password and encryption keys search, but i see it on http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/
[10:23] <cnttucme> Pc what audio device do you have?
[10:24] <pc> how to check that pls
[10:24] <cnttucme> pc: $ arecord -l
[10:25] <cnttucme> Pc: do this "http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-display-soundcards-digital-audio-devices.html"
[10:26] <Onkeltem> Hi. How to change orientation (from Landscape to Portrait) of a PDF document/page
[10:26] <Onkeltem> ?
[10:26] <pc> Intel ICH [Intel ICH5]
[10:27] <roxlu> hi, I'm reading this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto and the postfix install asks me "General type of mail configuration" ... for a mail server which will handle mails from multiple domains, what do I choose there? (Internet with smarthost?)
[10:28] <Onkeltem> Any DIA users are here? I can't export a diagram to PDF preserving its Landscape layout - the resulting PDF is oriented portait.
[10:29] <cnttucme> Pc use that link i gave you
[10:29] <gorski> what is user attribute package, i can't see my public key in password and encryption keys search, but i see it on http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/
[10:29] <pc> yes im trying the solutions
[10:32] <llutz_> roxlu: "internet"
[10:32] <nexusIL> hi I can't find 'man fork' on mint, I've never needed to install manual pages, what do I need to install for it ( I have gcc and g++)
[10:33] <LjL> nexusIL: install manpages-dev
[10:33] <pc> it doesnt work
[10:33] <llutz_> roxlu: or do you send all your outgoing mail through a smarthost (isp, mailprovider)?
[10:33] <pc> same low level of sound
[10:33] <cambazz> hello, i can not make my canon ip1800 printer work. I have install drivers as told, but while printing it compains about pstocanonij not found
[10:33] <cambazz> it is in path however (I have compiled and put a symlink in usr/bin
[10:33] <cambazz> where does this printer look for it
[10:34] <nexusIL> @LjL Thank you :)
[10:36] <N0Of> hi. has anyone tried ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 beta and experienced sporadic system freeze/hangup (possibly in related to ecryptfs)?
[10:37] <N0Of> i get no errors on the console, system is suddenly freezing. how can i figure out whats the cause of this?
[10:38] <eSoul> dd + UUID + grub = love
[10:39] <eSoul> to be fair, ddrescue, but same difference
[10:40] <novrak> hello
[10:44] <railsraider> can anyone please help with setting nrpe for nagios i get CHECK_NRPE: Error - Could not complete SSL handshake. when i try to check nape from the remote nagios server
[10:45] <ceasar> i want help,for figuring out a very unusual problem, my 10kbp/s  line is fluctuating with 7Mb/s, system monitor is suggesting nothing unusual, i have the screen shot.
[10:45] <novrak> ubuntu 11.10 on a 4-year old (2gb ram, shared graphics) notebook performs worse than Win7 and Win8beta right now, Is this how Ubuntu is headed, ie. ditching old hw ?
[10:46] <llutz_> railsraider: does it work with "check_nrpe -n"?
[10:46] <senayar> novrak:  you use unity ?
[10:46] <novrak> senayar: it's mandatory on 11.10
[10:47] <llutz_> railsraider: did you allow incoming port 5666 on remote server?
[10:47] <railsraider> llutz_:  I'm using the LAN from inside
[10:48] <railsraider> so using address 10.x
[10:48] <llutz_> railsraider: and? myke sure theres no firewall blocking
[10:49] <mandza> novrak i also use 11.10 and i agree with you
[10:49] <llutz_> make*
[10:49] <mandza> is it posibble to make ubuntu faster that it is????
[10:49] <railsraider> llutz_:  what do i need to check for in the iptables?
[10:49] <llutz_> railsraider: sudo iptables -L            incoming port 5666 has to be allowed
[10:50] <railsraider> even from the LAN?
[10:50] <llutz_> railsraider: from the machine nagios runs at
[10:50] <railsraider> ok
[10:50] <llutz_> railsraider: it makes no difference between lan/wan if you setup filtering rules
[10:51] <Uitrix> Hello everybody! I have a problem starting ubuntu.. It's 11.10. On the start screen I have a message, that system is trying to set up full network support, then waits 60 seconds trying to do that, then starting system without full network support. I guess, this is because it doesn't know my modem device, cause wi-fi and lan works perfectly. So, I don't need my modem device.. How to turn it off by defalt, or just say ubuntu to load without full network support
[10:52] <eSoul128> quick question, if i install beta 1 if 12.04 on my machine, when beta 2 and "gold" are released, will apt-get update/dist-upgrade get me to latest baring any major changes
[10:52] <Uitrix> I've tried to google, found nothing..
[10:52] <eSoul128> Vitrix, have you found a way in your systems bios to disable the modem
[10:53] <eSoul128> possibly
[10:53] <Uitrix> eSoul128, no. Haven't found that option in BIOS
[10:53] <eSoul128> bummer
[10:53] <Uitrix> and can't unplug it, cause it's laptop
[10:53] <eSoul128> indeed
[10:54] <eSoul128> I almost guessed tat, vitrix, just because if it was a desktop im sure you would have yanked it hours ago
[10:54] <philinux> eSoul128: this question comes up every 6 months. If it's up to date you got the latest and greatest
[10:54] <[Si]> could you just blacklist the module for the modem?
[10:54] <eSoul128> hmmm, you could try making some symlinks from /dev/ttyS0-9 (serial ports if im not mistaken)  to /dev/null to keep them from probing possibly?
[10:55] <torvald> Hi, i have a non-persistent customized live usb stick with Ubuntu where i want to update the kernel. I have the updated kernel installed on my laptop - can't i simply copy the image/vmlinuz to the bootfolder and add them to grub? I get a "init not tainted" when it boots. :/
[10:55] <eSoul128> philinux -- thanks, I just didnt know if it would the latest of beta 1, or if it would go all the way to the release copy through apt
[10:56] <Uitrix> [Si]: how can i do that?..
[10:56] <gaby> hello every body - how can i downgrade 11.10 to a older version without remove or uninstall the system
[10:56] <Uitrix> eSoul128: just delete those files and create links to /dev/null ?
[10:56] <llutz_> gaby: no
[10:56] <eSoul128> Vitrix, its a bunch of console commands, and i dont think it would help really
[10:56] <philinux> eSoul128: If it's updated you got it. Even if major change
[10:56] <eSoul128> becasue if its at boot
[10:56] <eSoul128> before your first login
[10:57] <eSoul128> I believe /dev/ repopultes the ttyS dev links
[10:57] <[Si]> Uitrix do a lsmod to find the module
[10:57] <gaby> lluts_ what no?
[10:57] <eSoul128> but im no expert there
[10:57] <llutz_> gaby: you can't
[10:57] <eSoul128> sorry for the multiple lines, bad habbit
[10:59] <[Si]> Uitrix then add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf "blacklist modulename". once that's done run sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:59] <Uitrix> [Si]: unfortunatly, can't find that module, cause don't know the name of device in that list..
[11:00] <eSoul128> Si, sorry to ask a related but unrelated question, is initramfs the first bit after/including the kernel on bootup
[11:00] <kame> hi. i use easy peasy. my problem: When i open an application/programm it opens in full screen. how to prevent this?
[11:03] <pc> hi
[11:03] <pc> again th same issue low sound
[11:03] <NewWorld> pc:  turn up the volume
[11:04] <pc> IST TURNED ON TO MAX
[11:04] <pc> sorry
[11:04] <matt_symes> eSoul: Initramfs is the initial root filling system the kernel loads before finding the main root filing system so yes, It's the first thing it loads. It does not have to be though
[11:04] <pc> how to install a new driver
[11:06] <NewWorld> pc:  In console type `alsamixer` - make sure everything is cranked up like Master/PCM, etc
[11:07] <pc> everyhing is to max
[11:07] <eSoul> matt_symes: I see, but then can be overwritten once the main root fs is found I suppose
[11:07] <[Si]> eSoul yes, sorry was akf a bit there. it has teh kernel + any modules required to boot (SCSI controlers, lvm fs modules etc)
[11:07] <eSoul> its either use an intiramfs or specify the root in the kernerl params
[11:07] <eSoul> indeed indeed
[11:08] <pc> still nothing
[11:08] <[Si]> Uitrix, pm the output of lspci and lsmod and I'll see if I can see it for you :)
[11:08] <[Si]> don't paste it in here.
[11:09] <[Si]> eSoul normaly you have to have one unless you compile all boot time modules into the kernel, (ie they are no longer modules)
[11:09] <matt_symes> eSoul. It's a compressed archive that gets loaded into memory. It creates certain required devices such as /dev/null but its main role it to load the root filling system
[11:10] <SubjectOne> can you run android-apps in ubuntu with the latest linux kernel 3.3 ?
[11:11] <pc> no one can help
[11:11] <Uitrix>  [Si]: where can I post it for u? it's quite big to do it write here)
[11:11] <Uitrix> *right
[11:11] <kame> once agian, hi. i use easy peasy. my problem: When i open an application/programm it opens in full screen. how to prevent this?
[11:12] <[Si]> Uitrix you should see another window pop in your irc client :)
[11:12] <eSoul> I see I see.  I mean, I am a CS student, going on my 8th year fr my 4 year degree since ive been working and skipped semesters, and im already 300-400 level, but unfortuantely to save time and to eat at us true geeks, we dont talk much about how th particular OS does its work.  Other than the, you have these things that happen in an OS
[11:13] <eSoul> And I have been around/had experience with Linux for 12 years, but I dont know every single in and out
[11:13] <DJones> kame: You're probably best asking that in #easypeasy which is the support channel for easypeasy according to their website,
[11:13] <[Si]> eSoul it's good to ask these questions :)
[11:13] <matt_symes> eSoul: You can uncompress initramfs and take a look at the scripts and modules inside
[11:13] <eSoul> bzImages are intramfs-es arent they
[11:14] <eSoul> or at least can be
[11:15] <pc> dear all can someone help me how to update this audio driver
[11:15] <kame> DJones thank you! :)
[11:18] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn a mpg to dvd using growisofs... the dvd skips in a dvd player, otherwise it plays fine. anyone have any suggestions for me?
[11:20] <matt_symes> eSoul: mkdir ~/initram_extract && cs $_ && gzip -dc /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-14-generic  | cpio -idmv or something along those lines should extract it. You will need to change the archive name as required
[11:21] <matt_symes> eSoul: They are compressed archives. The compression can be different types
[11:22] <eSoul> Indeed.  I see.  I just finished putting a server together, using the FOG Project, but open source lab computer imaging
[11:22] <eSoul> so when a student hoses a machine, netboot it and then you can pull down a fresh image
[11:23] <pc_> can someone help me to fix my audio problem
[11:23] <jpastore> so I just installed 11.10 upgraded from 10.10. I must say I'm not happy with the upgrade. unity not so great. I miss my cube and synaptic. if there a reason why wifi disocnnects to easily I queued up a couple of things to download before passing out last night, open the laptop this morning and it reconnected to wifi and continued. it seems to disconnect easily
[11:23] <ahhughes> can I get Vinagre to actually set thru ctrl+alt+left e.t.c. command keys?
[11:23] <eSoul> It just woudlnt do me any good now to look thru the files in it unless a system type wont boot
[11:25] <jpastore> pc_ IDK if I can help you but what's your problem? I had a crazy volume issue where if the volume was < 20% it was muted >20% it was only psycho loud.
[11:25] <pc_> ive very low sound
[11:26] <pc_> and in the mixer all is set up to max
[11:27] <jpastore> pc_ that's the inverse of the problem I had. have you tried booting from the live cd to see if it's the system itself or hardware related?
[11:28] <samineru> I'm about to resize me primary / partition, which contains boot. I will be changing the start. Will a standard grub recovery fix GRUB after this, or is that even necessary?
[11:28] <eSoul> samineru I just kinda messed with this myself
[11:29] <ikonia> samineru: you hopefully won't need to change anything
[11:29] <ikonia> samineru: I assume you are resizing from a livecd ?
[11:29] <eSoul> as long as the UUIS is going to be the same of the partition you are booting from ,grub should be fine, but you can run an update-grub to make sure?
[11:29] <eSoul> *UUID
[11:29] <samineru> @eSoul, @ikonia, Cause sda2 will still be sda2? And yes, from partedmagic
[11:29] <eSoul> samineru, most likely
[11:30] <ikonia> samineru: ok, go for it, and don't worry if something goes wrong it can most likley be fixed easy
[11:30] <ikonia> samineru: backup anything you need that is important to you though
[11:30] <samineru> If it's important it's already in 2 places :)
[11:30] <eSoul> UUID is the more accepted way to reference your block devices if im not mistaken now
[11:30] <anudaasa> helou, have someone experience with luckybackup ?
[11:30] <samineru> Ah, presumably GRUB does that already?
[11:30] <eSoul> since controllers seems to come up at a slightly different time
[11:30] <eSoul> samineru -- with a grub-update it will check and make sure I believe
[11:31] <eSoul> err
[11:31] <eSoul> samineru update-grub, sorry
[11:31] <eSoul> but yeah, you will be able to fix it easily with a livecd/usb
[11:32] <eSoul> but back up anything since you are partition resizing, you may lose it
[11:32] <eSoul> *anything you really need
[11:32] <samineru> Yep, it's all on an external
[11:33] <eSoul> right on
[11:33] <samineru> Now it's time to waaaaaait
[11:33] <pc> when i restart the pc my master m in alsamixer is allways off
[11:34] <eSoul> samineru I NEVER partition resize unless its to grow it
[11:34] <eSoul> because of the defrag thats basically taking place
[11:34] <eSoul> takes forever
[11:34] <samineru> @eSoul, Yeah, this is a move AND shrink, so I've allocated my whole morning
[11:35] <eSoul> lol, samineru, just start out with a fresh drive?
[11:35] <samineru> eSoul, Windows|Linux|Storage   Windows had more space than it needed and storage was running out of space
[11:36] <eSoul> samineru:  I see I see, i forgot most people dot have the 7.5 TB i have, although thats nothing compared to rigs ive seen on the internet
[11:36] <pc> how to update this driver pls 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
[11:37] <anudaasa> Soul: you have 7.5 TB ?
[11:38] <samineru> @eSoul, laptop
[11:38] <samineru> You know, backup and reinstall may have been faster...
[11:38] <eSoul> anudaasa -- yes, across 10 SATA drives
[11:38] <pc> any help today
[11:39] <anudaasa> eSoul: aha, so it is under 1 TB for one disk
[11:39] <samineru> Well, thanks for talking, I'm gonna go eat breakfast move on with my day
[11:39] <eSoul> some are 2 tb
[11:39] <eSoul> some are 750
[11:39] <eSoul> GB
[11:40] <eSoul> i think it might be close to 9TB total, but i have two 2TB drives mirrored together with ZFS
[11:40] <anudaasa> eSoul: is possible to have NTFS on 2 TB disk ?
[11:40] <eSoul> yes
[11:40] <eSoul> as long as you have WinXP sp1 or abov
[11:40] <eSoul> e
[11:41] <eSoul> if you are using an orginal release xp disk, you will only be able to make partitions up to 100 or something GBs in size
[11:41] <anudaasa> Soul: 100TB is enough :-)
[11:42] <eSoul> anudaasa -- no, only 100GBs
[11:42] <eSoul> It may even be less.  It wasnt using LBA-48 addressing
[11:42] <eSoul> (i think, could be pulling crap from my butt)
[11:43] <anudaasa> I have 250 GB disk with ntfs
[11:44] <mughil2cloud> hello
[11:44] <mughil2cloud> hi
[11:44] <eSoul> as long as at least sp1 is install or slipstreamed onto the disk, it can be recognize
[11:44] <eSoul> d
[11:44]  * [Si] has 9tb over 4 disks.
[11:45] <eSoul> Nicey Nice, Si
[11:45] <Kk2> hello, after changing my kernel to 3.2.12 all boot logos, for starting, and shutdown/reboot, are just gone how i restore that?
[11:46] <anudaasa> kk2: thank you, i will no using kernel 3.2.x :-)
[11:47] <Kk2> lol, why anudaasa? everyting is working, less the ubuntu logo from booting :P
[11:47] <[Si]> Kk2 sounds like your framebuffer driver is missing from your 3.2 kernel
[11:48] <anudaasa> kk2: i have 3.0.x and working everythink
[11:48] <[Si]> what graphics card/drivers are you using in your old kernel?
[11:48] <Kk2> nvidia 295.20, working properly in every kernel :P
[11:49] <Kk2> old and new
[11:50] <[Si]> I only ever got the logo using the nouveau drivers, the nvidia ones don't support KVM so I guess you were using uvesa or similar for the framebuffer drivers
[11:51] <Kk2> so, i will not get the logo screens anymore? is there anyway i change for text mode? like see the kernel coming up, configuring dhcpd and all? in text, without the buffer logo?!
[11:55] <Kk2> hmm i found a way, just editing the grub :)
[11:55] <[Si]> Kk2 edit /etc/default/grub. Change the "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" to have "nomodeset" then add "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text" to the end of the file. Then run Update grub
[11:55] <[Si]> sorry had to boot up my pc with the Nvidia in it to check.
[11:55] <Kk2> thx a lot [Si] :D
[11:55] <[Si]> no worries Kk2 took a bit of fiddling to make that work here, this is on 11.10 btw.
[11:56] <worm> Kk2 after that, run this command: "update-grub >/boot/grub/grub.cfg" Don't forget the >, or it will just print the result out.
[11:57] <Kk2> thx a lot :D
[11:57] <[Si]> worm on 11.10 sudo update-grub does that for you :)
[11:58] <pc> anyone can help me with my sound problem
[12:00] <elky> pc, if you describe the problem, then people reading the backlog in their irc client will see the description and decide if they can help
[12:01] <worm> [Si] Yes. But something wrong happened to me... Because I am installing another copy of Linux to my USB Drive, it is listed to my boot list...
[12:03] <GVolkman1> Good morning all. I have a very serious issue with grub. I have an md raid that had the drive with /boot and grub which died. I replaced the drive, resynced, all good; but I can't grub-install $targdrive, or use dpkg-reconfigure, here is what I get: http://pastebin.com/md9tN06J
[12:03] <GVolkman1> Am I SOL on a bootloader?
[12:03] <sggg> hi, can vsftpd setup using utf-8 only? of is there any ftp server which can handle this? thanks.
[12:04] <GVolkman1> sggg: osm
[12:04] <vikrant> Hello allç
[12:04] <sggg> GVolkman1, osm?
[12:04] <pc> no sound at all
[12:05] <sggg> GVolkman1, I don't find anything by googling osm...
[12:05] <GVolkman1> sggg: still making coffee, enter key is very large. I dont believe so.
[12:05] <vikrant> When I log out from my Ubuntu session, my screen goes blank and could not get my login screen back...can anyone please help
[12:05] <sggg> GVolkman1, sorry. I don't understand what you mean.
[12:06] <worm> Can anyone tell me how to upload files to a server using vsftpd? I want to use a ubuntu machine as a file server.
[12:07] <worm> Although I login by my username, it did not work. It is necessary for me to upload files via Windows Explorer.
[12:07] <worm> It just told me I have no permission to do so.
[12:08] <eSoul> worm, if you have ssh access, get winscp to copy your files
[12:08] <worm> vikrant Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to text mode and login, then run "sudo restart lightdm".
[12:09] <mcb_> worm: In your vsftp configuration did you enable: $write_enable=YES. It is disable by default.
[12:10] <vikrant> worm, I am using gdm and have tried that...but didnt work...My X session gets killed, but a new X session isn created...
[12:10] <worm> vikrant then startx?
[12:11] <iLogical> I am getting this problem: http://i.imgur.com/haSlQ.png . what can I do?
[12:12] <mandza> uitrix i had same problem, i solved it by restarting my modem
[12:12] <worm> mcb_ Oh, I found it. Thanks a lot. But why the programmer just put a "#" to that line? It is so hard to find that.
[12:13] <mcb_> worm: The # caracter means that it is a comantary. Taking it out will actualy uncomment the line and "turn on" the configuration.
[12:13] <vikrant> worm, i am working on a multiseat environment using console kit and gdm...my host machine is working fine and logouts and logins properly...But the usb seats connected doesnt get login screen after logout...
[12:17] <worm> vikrant If it happened frequently, it might be a bug. But because I have never met a problem like that, I can't solve it. So sorry. Can anyone solve it?
[12:20] <iLogical> hello
[12:20] <iLogical> I am getting this problem: http://i.imgur.com/haSlQ.png . what can I do?
[12:22] <Oer> worm, maybe this vsftpd howto is any help >> http://www.wikihow.com/Setup-vsftpd-FTP-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[12:24] <abhinavmehta> I'm trying to setup 'pptpd' eg. VPN…..everything is set on the server-side, but still not able to connect clients(MacBook/iPhone)…so now I'm curious to know whether server is up or not….
[12:24] <abhinavmehta> so is there some way to ping pptpd-port/sevice../
[12:24] <abhinavmehta> *service?
[12:25] <hekate> Hi, does anyone know whether the llvm package in apt for Ubuntu 10.04 is enough to have the llvm compiler?
[12:25] <mcb_> abhinavmehta: You can use netcat, it is not a ping, more like a telnet, but it will connect to any port/service, even UDP.
[12:26] <abhinavmehta> mcb_: cool, thanks. :)
[12:26] <abhinavmehta> mcb_: any idea, which port is used by pptpd ?
[12:26] <abhinavmehta> ohkk…I'll do nmap
[12:27] <mcb_>  abhinavmehta: I have no idea, but the nmap trick will do the job.....
[12:27] <abhinavmehta> mcb_: yeah…thanks pal :)
[12:27] <[Si]> pptp = 1723 + GRE ( protocol 47)
[12:28] <abhinavmehta> [Si]: thanks…BTW I got that by the time. But thanks :)
[12:34] <iLogical> I am getting this problem: http://i.imgur.com/haSlQ.png . what can I do?
[12:35] <abhinavmehta> well, with necat, I found pptpd-server is up and running, but if I'm using MacBook/iPhone as clients it's saying "you are disconnected by the communication device. Try reconnecting …"
[12:35] <abhinavmehta> any idea, whats fishy..?
[12:42] <JSeymour> Good day.  I'm getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/892113/ when running the update manager this morning.  There's *plenty* of space in /usr.  Reinstall: Same result.  What's up?
[12:44] <bal> could you halp me to install a printere step by step? ubuntu 11.10 canon printer- LBP2900
[12:44] <dr_willis_> canon is kniwn to often have poor linux support.
[12:45] <Pratik> hi
[12:45] <dr_willis_> if its supported a printer should plug in and just work.
[12:45] <bal> dr_willis_: it is not working
[12:46] <dr_willis_> chevked the printer support site to see if its even working?
[12:46] <dr_willis_> err supported
[12:47] <JSeymour> What dr_willis_ said.  One of the reasons I won't buy Canon any more, @home or @work.
[12:47] <bal> dr_willis_: printer is shows when i add printer but not working
[12:47] <bal> any  way   i need to use  na
[12:49] <dr_willis_> check the cups logs. and askubuntu.com it may need some extra package
[12:49] <Glacee> What would be the best way to set up a mirror?
[12:50] <JSeymour> bal: As dr_willis_ asked: Did you check the printer support site to see if that printer is supported?
[12:50] <bal> dr_willis_:  it is there but i don't know how to do it
[12:50] <bal> to much scripts  and am new to ubuntu
[12:51] <JSeymour> bal: I assume you're using CUPS.  I just entered "2900" into the driver search and came up empty.  Just because CUPS "sees" it doesn't mean CUPS *supports* it.
[12:51] <sacarlson> bal: I had a canon printer IP1880 and never got it to work in 64bit ubuntu, I did have success with 32bit as they didn't release an open driver and at the time only supported 32bit
[12:52] <bal> i downloded the cann CAPT CAP
[12:52] <QA> hey all
[12:52] <QA> quick question
[12:52] <QA> ctrl_z
[12:52] <QA> suspends job
[12:52] <QA> when I fg it ... does it continue from where it was?
[12:52] <bal> JSeymour:  i don't  konw CUPS
[12:53] <dr_willis_> i tossed my canons.
[12:53] <QA> as in when I ctrl+z it ... is says Stopped
[12:53] <JSeymour> bal: Common Unix Printer Support.  Almost certainly what your system is using.
[12:53] <QA> doh .... was meant to be ctrl+z .... PLUS
[12:53] <QA> lol
[12:53] <dr_willis_> QA:  or use bg command.
[12:53] <bal> JSeymour: thank you
[12:53] <JSeymour> QA: Normally, yes
[12:54] <QA> so it basically "pauses" it ?
[12:54] <JSeymour> bal: It does not appear there's support for the LBP2900.
[12:54] <JSeymour> QA: Yes
[12:54] <QA> JSeymour: thank you very much for your help! :)
[12:55] <dr_willis_> check bash job control guides.
[12:55] <QA> dr_willis: tx, I will do
[12:55] <bal> JSeymour: ok
[12:55] <JSeymour> bal: Toss it and buy a Brother :)
[12:56] <bal> JSeymour: if its mine i can but it is were i work and there are most of printers are cannon
[12:56] <bal> most used printers too
[12:58] <John> I'm experiencing some difficulties with Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). I, sucessfully, followed the guide on the official documentation. It is now, however, disconnecting every now and again from the connected computer, which it's sharing the connecting with.
[12:59] <John> can someone kindly help me?
[12:59] <JSeymour> bal: *nod*  Sorry, don't have an answer for you.  Like I said: You're discovering one of the reasons I won't buy Canon anymore.  Last time I renewed copier/printer/scanner leases @work, stayed w/Canon.  Next time it'll be something else.  They're horrible.
[12:59] <bal> js
[13:00] <bal> JSeymour: ok
[13:00] <bal>  see you all
[13:04] <sarthor> how can i move files of specific extentions like .jpg .flv .mp4 etc from a directory that is having subdirectories to another directory.
[13:05] <ome> Can you copy files to SSH client from Server using interactive shell ?
[13:05] <norbert79> sarthor: Well, "mv *.jpg ../subdirectory" as an example
[13:05] <norbert79> sarthor: or, "mv *.jpg ./subdirectory" as an example
[13:06] <dr_willis_> scp is ssh copy. very handy toil
[13:06] <dr_willis_> tool
[13:06] <klync> sarthor: `find /orig/dir -name "*.jpg" -or .... -exec mv {} /new/dir/ \;`
[13:06] <sarthor> norbert79: therer are more directories in one direcory. Will it work for all then
[13:07] <klync> sarthor: or rsync with some combo of include / exclude patterns
[13:07] <sarthor> great.. klync
[13:07] <norbert79> sarthor: Agree, depends on what you would like to achieve
[13:07] <klync> sarthor: the first won't preserve directory structure; the second would
[13:07] <norbert79> sarthor: and it also depends if it's repeated or not
[13:08] <ome> dr_willis_: that way I need to know the client IP right ?
[13:09] <Zaitzev> uhm, the top bar and sidebar (Unity) just disappeared/closed/crashed. How do I get them back? lol..
[13:09] <ome> Zaitzev: `unity --reset &` should help.
[13:09] <ome> Oh wait no.
[13:09] <ome> DON"T DO IT.
[13:09] <ome> `unity --replace &` should work better.
[13:09] <Zaitzev> I haven't. :P
[13:09] <Zaitzev> replace huh, I'll try
[13:09] <ome> great. :)
[13:10] <ome> with reset you will lose the setting you have made.
[13:10] <Zaitzev> that helped
[13:10] <ome> Great.
[13:10] <Birk_> Anyone knows a command to get only the number of connections ni a determinated port ?
[13:10] <Zaitzev> yeah I know, not that I've made any change aside from hiding mounted drives
[13:10] <Zaitzev> thanks a bunch ome.
[13:10] <ome> not a problem.
[13:11] <Zaitzev> although, the "&" didn't do much good, there are still lines in terminal (WARN)
[13:11] <ome> Zaitzev: well, you can close the terminal and reopen it without killing unity.
[13:11] <Zaitzev> nvm, ^C worked fine..thought first it would close unity  :P
[13:12] <ome> Zaitzev: you can always try that sort of things in run (alt+F2), you miss out on the response/possible-erros though.
[13:12] <Gevz> hi all, somebody help me with bash scripting?
[13:12] <sarthor> klync:  `find /home/Desktop/22 -name "*.jpg" -or .... -exec cp {} /media/30C6A5FAC6A5C088/imran/ \;`
[13:12] <sarthor> find: paths must precede expression: ....
[13:12] <ome> Gabber: #bash
[13:12] <dr_willis_> Gevz:  give details.
[13:13] <Gevz> I`m reading data from file
[13:13] <CharminTheMoose> I'm compiling a 2.6.39 kernel with aufs support, but 'make modules_install' is only installing crypto modules, despite me doing a 'make allmodconfig'. .config looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/2130598 The output when I do make modules_install looks like: http://pastebin.ca/2130604
[13:14] <Pratik> I have Ubuntu 11.10 installed on my laptop in dual boot mode. The grub comes, and I'm able to see the login screen as well. But I'm not able to sign in. Password and other details are correct. I can access all the files throught the virtual terminal. When I sign in, a black screen comes which does not even last for a second and then again the login screen comes.
[13:14] <Gevz> and it reading like a string, but i need an integer
[13:14] <dr_willis_> !abs | gevz
[13:14] <Gevz> CURRENT=$(cat /home/test | awk '{print $0}'
[13:14] <Pratik> Basically, I cannot access via GUI
[13:15] <ome> Gevz: I would suggest you to ask in #bash, they have a pretty nice FAQ. also googling about type casting in bash should help.
[13:15] <JermBob> how do i stop my computer auto logging out so quickly
[13:15] <ome> Pratik: What Desktop Env. do you use ?
[13:15] <ome> Unity ?
[13:16] <JermBob> im over typing my password 10000000000x a day
[13:16] <Pratik> ome: yes
[13:16] <Gevz> ok, thanks guys
[13:16] <JermBob> typing it so much is insecure cause someone could see it
[13:16] <michal91> Hi, I have one question. how to check the IP by pidgin?
[13:17] <ome> Pratik: try installing something else, (i.e gnome-shell) and see if something is wrong with Desktop Env. (the unity) or something else.
[13:17] <Pratik> ome: what exactly do I need to install?
[13:18] <ome> gnome-shell.
[13:18] <ome> `apt-get install gnome-shell`
[13:18] <aristotle> I had to restart my router and now Ubuntu's wireless won't work. Wired works fine. Wireless works fine in Windows and Mac. Do I need to flush the dns or something?
[13:18] <Pratik> ome: ok fine
[13:19] <Pratik> ome: one more problem...i'm not able to download packages via apt-get on the virtual terminal
[13:19] <ome> JermBob: Maybe you should use a RFID or some other sort of Card based Securty. ? why you think it's insecure anyways ?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> JermBob  the password is what makes Linux more secure than Windows
[13:19] <Pratik> ome: ping is successful
[13:19] <ome> Pratik: Have you altereted anything at all ? or having the problem since Fresh install ?
[13:20] <ome> MonkeyDust: Oh, come on. please. there is much more in Linux securty then password. :D
[13:20] <Pratik> ome: this happened recently, after I had put a file in the startup applications
[13:20] <ome> why don't you try removing that using the terminal ?
[13:20] <aristotle> Hello?
[13:20] <[Si]> MonkeyDust, it's much easier to bypass linux password than windows on a default install.
[13:20] <Pratik> ome: i've done that
[13:21] <Pratik> but the problem still persists
[13:21] <ome> Pratik: though. can you give more info about the problem ? have you got anything from Log files ?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> [Si]  ome you're the first ones to disagree :s
[13:21] <Pratik> ome: i haven't modified any of the files
[13:21] <ome> [Si]: not that it's any difficult in windows either. :)
[13:22] <ome> Pratik: No, I mean have you tried to read and find out if there is any information logged about what is going wrong ?
[13:22] <[Si]> if you don't password grub you don't need boot disk/usb etc
[13:22] <Pratik> ome: i found how to delete the startup application using the terminal and deleted the file which I had put recently
[13:23] <Pratik> ome: nopes
[13:23] <[Si]> with windows at least you need a boot disk
[13:23] <ome> Pratik: perheps you should give `tail /var/log/syslog
[13:23] <ome> a try ?
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> aristotle, Perhaps you need to input the SSID?
[13:23] <ome> s/`/
[13:23] <JermBob> hello ?
[13:24] <kha_5001> hi
[13:24] <Pratik> ome: fine, I'll do that and get back
[13:24] <garmet> hello!
[13:24] <kha_5001> hi
[13:25] <ome> [Si]: fair. but IMO that is not much of securty meassure. :)
[13:26] <[Si]> ome indeed :) but the statement about linux and password making it secure was what I was questioning.
[13:26] <garmet> I am somewhat struggling with my dual screen setup. It works as intended, both screen works. The primary is 24" horizontal and the other is 22" vertical screen. Im using xinerama and would like to position the screens so that when I have a window in between them the borders of the window "align". I cant use negative offsets, that upset xorg...
[13:27] <[Si]> with physical access you are owned either os (without full disk encrypt)
[13:27] <ome> A really hard thing for lots of people to sollow. but deadly true.
[13:28] <[Si]> more than once I've had people blah blah my laptop has linux you can't get into it, reboot 2 seconds later I'm in as root :)
[13:28] <[Si]> just to make them re-think and make security better.
[13:29] <ome> garmet: not that you are in the wrong place to ask, but also consider #xorg
[13:29] <Todd> does truecrypt support full disk encryption with linux yet?
[13:29] <Todd> they've been doing windows for years
[13:29] <garmet> ome: that may work :D
[13:31] <ome> s/sollow/swallow
[13:31] <JermBob> hi
[13:31] <JermBob> so
[13:31] <JermBob> my ubuntu install, how can i stop it going to the login screen every 5 mins of inactivity ?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> JermBob  System Settings - Power
[13:32] <m477> hi, does it go to work in fluxbox? q Mod4  :PrevWorkspace
[13:33] <jadahl> How can I install the arm version of libX11.so on my x86_64 system?
[13:33] <mcb_> JermBob: System Settings -> preferences -> ScreenSavers, disable the lock.
[13:33] <JermBob> MonkeyDust: i thought this myself but it keeps doing it
[13:33] <ome> m477: how is anyone here 'suppose' to know about fluxbox ?)
[13:33] <JermBob> mcb_:  ill try that, thanks
[13:33] <fabiansc> Hello everyone. I am missing "wlan0" in my terminal (iwconfig). I am using a BCM4312 chipset (Broadcom) and Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3.2. Can anyone help?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> JermBob  maybe mcb_ 's advice is more useful
[13:33] <dr_willis_> fluxbox has a homepage and docs
[13:34] <JermBob> mcb_:  thanks
[13:34] <JermBob> MonkeyDust: you were close
[13:34] <JermBob> thanks tooo
[13:34] <almoxarife> JermBob: look at 'power-management' settings
[13:34] <ome> fabiansc: it's not always 'wlan0'. it could be wifi0 or something along these lines. Do you have the driver loaded ?
[13:34] <JermBob> almoxarife:  its in the screensaver settings
[13:34] <klasa-1ts> siema
[13:34] <klasa-1ts_> elo chwaście
[13:35] <m477> ome: it is ubuntu channel so probably a lot of you use it :)
[13:35] <fabiansc> ome: I am using the wireless card right now; so I guess the driver is loaded; I am not sure?
[13:35] <klasa-1ts> WHere are u from ?
[13:35] <klasa-1ts> koooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook
[13:35] <klasa-1ts_> fabiansc suck my dick
[13:36] <klasa-1ts> SuCk My Balls
[13:36] <dlentz> !op
[13:36] <fabiansc> klasa-1ts_ something is wrong here Oo
[13:36] <Pici> dlentz: thanks
[13:36] <dlentz> yw
[13:36] <JermBob> nice
[13:36] <JermBob> thats a good command
[13:36] <fabiansc> thanks. That was confusing
[13:37] <ome> fabiansc: if you are using that. then it's loaded for sure. :)  what do you get in the `iwconfig` already ?
[13:38] <Myrtti> dlentz: in the future, it helps if you append the call with | nickname of the troublemaker
[13:38] <playman> how can I see if my samba has a domain name?
[13:38] <fabiansc> its lo and eth0 (both: n wireless extension) and eth1 (IEEE 802.11 Access Point: Not-Associated Link QUality: 5 Signal Level 215 Noise Level: 199 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:14 invalid misc: 0)
[13:38] <neo1691> My bootloader is grub2 and i am dualbooting windows 7 with ubuntu!! If i make another partition and install windows xp will it be detected by grub?
[13:39] <dlentz> Myrtti, noted
[13:39] <JSeymour> neo1691: If you install winXP it'll overwrite the boot block with its own loader
[13:39] <ome> fabiansc: the eth1 is the wireless interface.
[13:39] <fabiansc> neo1691: I guess windows xp will overwrite grub..?
[13:39] <fabiansc> ome: oh okay. I thought its my network cable-based one. Thank you
[13:39] <dlentz> xp will overwrite grub, but you can reinstall it with the livecd
[13:39] <ome> fabiansc: try `ifconfig` and you should see wlan0/wifi0 or something like that.
[13:39] <neo1691> fabiansc, JSeymour  Any solution?? how can i install ubuntu now?
[13:39] <neo1691> *sorry windows xp now
[13:39] <JSeymour> neo1691: Yeah, backup the boot block :)
[13:40] <neo1691> JSeymour,  How can i do that?? any links wil be helpful
[13:40] <mcb_> neo1691: Use a virtual machine, it is the simpler way.
[13:40] <ome> neo1691: most likely yes. and you need to reinstall grub2. do you have a diff. partation for your bootloader ?
[13:40] <fabiansc> neo1691: you can use a live cd to  get your bootloader back; or use ubuntu wubi
[13:40] <michal91> #ubuntu-pl
[13:40] <JSeymour> dd if=/dev/sdX of=<some-or-another-file> bs=512 count=1
[13:40] <dlentz> neo1691, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[13:40] <neo1691> ome,  yes i do have a different partition for bootloader
[13:40] <JSeymour> neo1691: Lemme double-chech that syntax, tho
[13:40] <fabiansc> neo1691: ubuntu wubi is a program fo windows; you "install" ubuntu this way in windows bootloader
[13:41] <neo1691> fabiansc,  if i install xp in an altogether different partition then i wont be able to boot into xp right?
[13:41] <fabiansc> ome: ifconfig gives me eth0, eth1 (with an inet adress, so i guess its my wlan0?) and lo
[13:41] <neo1691> sorry i wont be able to boot into ubuntu right
[13:41] <ome> fabiansc: most likely,
[13:42] <ome> neo1691: nope. not after you install XP.
[13:42] <JSeymour> neo1691: http://paste.ubuntu.com/892187/
[13:42] <ome> once you install XP all you need to do is reinstall/update-grub2 and you should be fine again.
[13:43] <JSeymour> ome: You don't need to reinstall Grub.  You just need to restore the MBR.
[13:43] <fabiansc> neo1691: I think you. If you install Windows, it will overwrite your bootloader. Ununtu will insert your windows partition into grub. Another way is ubuntu wubi. It is like a program for windows, which has a virtual disk (like a virtual machine) but will be executed by the bootloader
[13:43] <mcb_> fabiansc: You can tell which eth is wich by the MAC ADDRESS, as normaly the MAC is assossiate with the manufactor.
[13:43] <fabiansc> ome: thank you very much.
[13:43] <ome> JSeymour: restore MBR is what update-grub2 does. :)
[13:44] <JSeymour> neo1691: You'll have to boot into a LiveCD thing, open a terminal, and "sudo ..." to do part 2.
[13:44] <fabiansc> mcb_: ah ok. I didn't think about that. I need to "update" my wireless card for my it-security lecture (aircrack stuff); therefore I needed to use my wlan0 / eth1 :-) Thanks so much
[13:44] <Defusal> i don't quite get this, i switched from putty to SecureCRT recently for my windows ssh client, as it got the best ratings. but now with this client, if my connection dies, all processing running in ssh sessions continue in the background, which forces me to kill them manually later to free listening ports and stuff... does anyone have any idea why this would be happening?
[13:44] <JSeymour> neo1691: You'll also have to know where you save the MBR to, and mount the partition that's on
[13:45] <JSeymour> neo1691: *Don't* save it to /tmp, on the running system, if /tmp is a RAM fs ;)
[13:46] <JSeymour> (The foregoing all assumes the reader has reasonable 'nix skillz.)
[13:46] <neo1691> JSeymour,  its difficult for me it seems
[13:47] <JSeymour> neo1691: You have a thumb drive?  Save it to that.
[13:48] <JSeymour> Let's say you plug the thumb drive in an Linux mounts it as "Thumb".  It'll be under /media/Thumb
[13:48] <ome> JSeymour: from what I see, he doesn't know how to backup the MBR. that is why I suggested to reinstall Grub2. considering that he has a diff. partation for bootloader.
[13:48] <neo1691> JSeymour,  ok i willl give it a try!!
[13:48] <JSeymour> Or try ome's suggestion.
[13:48] <sarthor> I am trying to move files with some extentions, but no success. here is the problem. `find -P /home/safa/Desktop/22/ -name "*.jpg" -or .... -exec mv {} /media/HardDisk/22 \;`
[13:48] <sarthor> find: paths must precede expression: ....
[13:48] <sarthor> Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[13:49] <JSeymour> ome: The MBR is always in the same place.
[13:49] <sarthor> klync: please check this again.
[13:50] <JSeymour> neo1691: Let's say your thumb drive is mounted as "Thumb".  It'll be in /media/Thumb.
[13:50] <neo1691> Can easyBCD help me in that case??
[13:51] <JSeymour> So if you "dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/Thumb/MBR_backup bs=512 count=1"...
[13:51] <klync> sarthor: you're not literally using "...", are you? I meant to replace that with the other extensions you want to find. see the man page for more details
[13:52] <JSeymour> Then, when you boot off the live CD, plug in the thumb drive, see where it mounts it (may be the same) and do the 2nd part.  Either sudo or su -.
[13:52] <playman> how can I see if my samba has a domain name?
[13:52] <sarthor> klync: I am new to linux. and i also want to mv .jpg extentions.
[13:53] <ome> JSeymour: but doesn't it has to be update to read the Grub partation as active rather then that of last installed OS (XP in this case) ?
[13:53] <thetinyjesus> can anyone help with getting an nvidia 310m card working?
[13:54] <ome> thetinyjesus: Nope. No one would really help you unless you try it yourself and have a specific problem that you can't solve. :)
[13:54] <JSeymour> If the Live CD system doesn't mount the thumb drive automatically, you can "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt", for example, in which case your thumb drive will now appear under /mnt
[13:54] <geirha> sarthor: find /home/safa/Desktop/22/ \( -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.flv" -o -name "*.mp3" \) -exec mv {} /media/HardDisk/22 \;
[13:54] <thetinyjesus> ome, i'
[13:54] <thetinyjesus> ome, ive tried to do several different things which all cause my computer to disable all display adapters
[13:54] <JSeymour> ome: It's been my experience that 'doze doesn't mess with partition active, etc. status'
[13:55] <nicola> hi
[13:55] <JSeymour> neo1691: Might not be a bad idea to boot off a LiveCD before you start to see how the thumb drive is handled and what you're going to have to do
[13:55] <riveryk> alguien me ayuda, utilidad de discos no detecta mi disco externo, que puedo hacer???
[13:56] <ome> JSeymour: I don't know much of about BIOS, but if MBR and Active partation is constant how does diff. OS/bootlaoders are loaded ?
[13:56] <gfc> need
[13:57] <ome> s/of about/about
[13:57] <JSeymour> Doesn't the MBR point to the desired bootloader?  Isn't that what a Master Boot Record is?
[13:58] <JSeymour> Thing is: Doing it my way, I think you have to somehow tell Grub about the new 'doze partition.  I don't recall.
[13:58] <ome> JSeymour: so that means, you have to update the MBR to laod the desired bootloader ?
[13:58] <JSeymour> neo1691: ^^^
[13:59] <JSeymour> ome: That's the way *I* understand it works: Yes.
[13:59] <ome> JSeymour: 'aight then. I thought you said its always the same.
[13:59] <JSeymour> ome: That's why, when you install a new 'doze, you lose Linux entirely, because the 'doze install overwrites the MBR with a new one.
[14:00] <JSeymour> ome: No: I said it's always in the same place.
[14:00] <JSeymour> 1st 512 bytes of the raw device.
[14:00] <neo1691> JSeymour, Ok i will try to do that!! But i am a noob at linux commands. You still helped me a lot
[14:00] <ome> and to tell the Grub about the new partation, you can edit the grub.conf yourself or just run `update-grub2` and let it find all OS itself.
[14:00] <neo1691> :)
[14:00] <ome> JSeymour: oh my bad then. :)
[14:00] <JSeymour> :)
[14:00] <JSeymour> ome: That's what I *meant* to say, anyway :)
[14:01] <ome> :)
[14:02] <playman> how can I see if my samba has a domain name? any one?
[14:02] <JSeymour> Look in smb.conf?
[14:02] <JSeymour> run smbclient?
[14:02] <JSeymour> run nmblookup?
[14:02] <ome> I am off. peace out.
[14:02]  * JSeymour waves
[14:03] <Oer>  playman, normally samba does not give you a domainname, unless you provide one.
[14:03] <chrisfromthebay> Hey guys. I just created a LiveUSB of Ubuntu 12. Is there a way to change the boot options from within, to enable persistence?
[14:03] <JSeymour> playman: N.B.: Windows "domain" and DNS "domain" are Not The Same Thing
[14:03] <Oer> chrisfromthebay, join #Ubuntu+1 for 12.04 beta
[14:04] <oCean> chrisfromthebay: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[14:04] <fabiansc> Hi again. I am on my way to patch my wireless card for using aircrack (IT Security Lecture at university). The manual says I need to decide which kernel version I am useing (3.2 or newer) or (older kerlnels)
[14:04] <fabiansc> Do they mean my linux kernel (I guess it's 3.0) or a "wireless kernel" if this exists
[14:04] <ikonia> fabiansc: there is no such thing as a wireless kernel
[14:04] <theadmin> fabiansc: Which Ubuntu version are you using? The latest kernel in Ubuntu, if I recall correctly, is 3.1
[14:05] <ikonia> fabiansc: the fact that you are not comfortable with this inforamtion suggests you should not be trying to patch the kernel
[14:05] <nlko> hi guys, i have added "profile" tpo my grub boot conf, do i leave it there, or do i remove it after a few boots?
[14:05] <nlko> one blog i read suggests i remove it once it has profiled?
[14:05] <fabiansc> theadmin: Ubuntu 11.10 :-) Is there a way to check the kernel version?
[14:05] <nlko> im trying to get a faster boot time
[14:05] <playman> Oer: ok, but I didint install the samba originally, it was allready installed, there for i'm trying to find this out
[14:05] <theadmin> fabiansc: uname -r
[14:05] <mcb_> playman: In /etc/samba/cmb.conf the tag WORKGROUP= <domain name>
[14:05] <ikonia> fabiansc: I very very VERY strongly advise you not to try to patch the kernel at your current ability
[14:06] <fabiansc> ikonia: thanks for the advise; but I need to based on my lecture. I guess it can only kick ubuntu down; so I need to reinstall it.
[14:06] <theadmin> Speaking of custom kernels, how do you generate initrd/initcpio on Ubuntu?
[14:06] <ikonia> fabiansc: I doubt your lecture forces you to do something like this
[14:06] <mcb_> playman:: Also see if the setting domain master is set to yes. If so your samba is the domain master.
[14:07] <abhinavmehta> I'm trying to configure 'pptp' eg. VPN-server…while doing that, I'm confused at /etc/pptpd.conf attribute localip & remoteip….
[14:08] <abhinavmehta> My local network is behind the wireless router…so IP should be 192.xxx something eg. local-ips…or should I provide ISP-provided ups..?
[14:08] <fabiansc> ikonia: We need to simulate an attack on a wireless lan and present the results... there is no further support... but that's my problem :-)
[14:08] <fabiansc> we are writing a seminarpaper about it afterwards
[14:08] <ikonia> fabiansc: have you considered using a distro that is aimed to do that
[14:09] <latifani> hi
[14:09] <fabiansc> I was thinking about backtrack 3, but it didn't work with my hardware
[14:09] <ikonia> fabiansc: with the utmost respect, how can you give a lecture on something like this when you have no understanding of how to use/manage the tool
[14:09] <theadmin> fabiansc: Try backtrack, I say. Messing with the kernel is, in general, a bad idea. Unless you're running gentoo I guess.
[14:09] <ikonia> fabiansc: why not a modern backtrack install
[14:09] <Defusal_> in case anyone answered my question while i was timing out, please repaste it
[14:09] <fabiansc> ikonia: my hardware is completely not supporter. I tried it before.
[14:09] <Defusal_> because now i have the issue again, and would really like to know why it is happening
[14:10] <playman> mcb_: you mean the "domain logons"? it's uncommented (it has the ; sign in front of it)
[14:10] <theadmin> Defusal_: Repeat your question please, since a ton of lines was here after you asked, likely
[14:10] <ikonia> fabiansc: backtrack is based on ubuntu
[14:10] <ikonia> fabiansc: so if ubuntu works, backtrack will work
[14:10] <Defusal_> i don't quite get this, i switched from putty to SecureCRT recently for my windows ssh client, as it got the best ratings. but now with this client, if my connection dies, all processing running in ssh sessions continue in the background, which forces me to kill them manually later to free listening ports and stuff... does anyone have any idea why this would be happening?
[14:10] <nibbler_> suddenly my center mousebutton does not paste anymore. any hint where to configure this?
[14:11] <fabiansc> ikonia: It doesn't boot at all and stuck while booting; only hard reset helps. Ubuntu boots fine. I don't know what else could be the issue. MD5 is fine.
[14:11] <xerz> hey can someone tell me whats the command for unix to download irssi on a VPS?
[14:11] <theadmin> Defusal_: I think that's a normal behaviour. Nothing kills the processes => they continue running
[14:11] <JSeymour> Need some help w/b0rk3d upgrade: Got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/892113/ then tried this http://paste.ubuntu.com/892221/
[14:11] <ikonia> fabiansc: what version of backtrack have you tried ?
[14:11] <Defusal_> theadmin, err, that is not how ssh sessions work...
[14:11] <mcb_> playman: Both # and ; characters comments lines in smb.conf
[14:11] <fabiansc> BT3 RC something (actual)
[14:11] <Defusal_> when the ssh session dies, so do all processes that it is running
[14:11] <theadmin> Defusal_: Eh... Hm.
[14:11] <xerz> anyone?
[14:11] <ikonia> fabiansc: ok, that is very old, try a modern version, backtrack 4 - 5
[14:11] <nmvictor> I hav an old laptop that cant boot USB drive, the CD drive is not working and so the only available solution is network booting via PXE. Is their a guru on this area to take me through, I already have dhcp3-server and tftpboot installed in the machine i  want to set up as server. I dont knwo what next, someone please take me through.
[14:11] <oCean> Defusal_: try contacting the maintainers of that client program, it is not an ubuntu issue
[14:12] <Defusal_> oCean, my question is not how to fix the client, its how this is possible in the first place
[14:12] <oCean> Defusal_: it is not an ubuntu issue, so offtopic for this channel
[14:12] <Defusal_> it breaks ssh's expected behaviour
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> xerz  depends on what package manager Unix uses
[14:12] <fabiansc> ikonia: Ah that's old? Huh - than I'll take a second look for it. Thanks
[14:12] <Defusal_> oCean, ok, then i will rephrase my question
[14:13] <garmet> not much response from #xorg :( anyone can take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/KU0qMH0m I'm trying to figure out why changing: "Screen1" RELATIVE "Screen0" 1920 0    ->   1920 200 increases the window alignment gap instead of decreasing it :(
[14:13] <ikonia> fabiansc: I promise using a distro that is built to do what you want rather than trying to patch the ubuntu kernel, will be a lot lot easier
[14:13] <xerz> MonkeyDust: Linux expres 2.6.18-274.7.1.el5.028stab095.1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 24 20:49:24 MSD 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:13] <ikonia> ahhh a redhat kernel
[14:13] <oCean> Defusal_: it will not change your real subject, your new windows client. Please don't ask here
[14:13] <playman> allright thank you fro that mcb_
[14:13] <ikonia> xerz: xen host by any chance
[14:13] <railsraider> anyone can help with ssh issue? i am able to connect one eth1 but not on eth0
[14:13] <dwarvenbasterd> test
[14:13] <xerz> yea
[14:13] <latifani> how can i connect my local lan to ubuntu on my laptop
[14:13] <xerz> i need help to install irssi thoguh
[14:13] <nmvictor> Is it possiblr to boot a remastered ubuntu ISO via PXE network booting?
[14:13] <Defusal_> oCean: if you are unable to help, rather keep quiet please
[14:13] <xerz> what command would i use?
[14:14] <fabiansc> ikonia: do you know whether i can install it like my ubuntu right now (via wubi)?
[14:14] <ikonia> xerz: please pastebin the output of lsb_release -a
[14:14] <ikonia> fabiansc: no, and you're using wubi, bad idea
[14:14] <Defusal_> how is it possible to disconnect from a SSHd, without the session dying? i have always assumed this is impossible, but since i now see it is possible, i'd like to know how it can be done, and if it is possible to reconnect to the same session again
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> xerz  or simply lsb_release -sd
[14:14] <oCean> Defusal_: no, I am pointing out the guidelines for you. If you can't behave accordingly, I'll have to mute or remove you
[14:14] <xerz> ikonia: Distributor ID:	Debian Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.8 (lenny) Release:	5.0.8 Codename:	lenny
[14:14] <ikonia> fabiansc: if you are going to do a job - do it right, get a distro like back track, install it properly in a dual boot setup
[14:14] <nmvictor> Any help with PXE booting, please!
[14:14] <ikonia> xerz: #debian would be the channel you want
[14:15] <fabiansc> hmm that's bad. USB Stick is too slow and stucks. Ubuntu wubi is fine for me. So I need to make a second partition
[14:15] <Defusal_> oCean, i am well aware of the guidelines, my question is perfectly valid, please stop harrassing me
[14:15] <xerz> lol, cbf going there now
[14:15] <ikonia> nmvictor: are you using ubuntu or debian
[14:15] <ikonia> xerz: ok, bye then
[14:15] <usuario> olaaa
[14:15] <bazhang> !es | usuario
[14:15] <nmvictor> ikonia: unbuntu
[14:15] <nmvictor> ikonia: ubuntu
[14:16] <mcb_> railsraider: Do your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file ListenAddress 0.0.0.0. If not, SSH will only listen in the IP setted here.
[14:16] <nmvictor> ikonia: will you please take me throu'
[14:16] <Defusal_> but i guess maybe a general linux channel will be able to provide an answer, since sshd isnt exactly specific to ubuntu
[14:16] <JSeymour> Defusal_: Gotta go w/oCean on this one: Your question seems OT for this channel.  Neither component are Ubuntu things.  One is either SSH or OpenSSH, the other a Windows application.
[14:16] <Zaitzev> What command do I run in terminal to give full read+write access to /var/www and all files and subfolders, with a user other than root?
[14:16] <ikonia> Defusal_: there are some windows clients that work like screen
[14:16] <[Si]> Defusal_ I would say look at screen ctrl-a d disconnects screen -r rejoins.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Defusal_  maybe this link is useful http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/02/03/keeping-ssh-sessions-alive/
[14:16] <ikonia> Defusal_: they run a daemon and the client connects to that daemon that does the ssh work
[14:16] <JSeymour> Defusal_: SSH isn't specific to anything, really.
[14:17] <Defusal_> JSeymour, ok, i will try find someone related to sshd, please make sure everyone in here refuses to help anyone with anything related to ssh in the future. thanks
[14:17] <JSeymour> *sigh*
[14:17] <ikonia> nmvictor: what part of pxe booting are you not clear with ?
[14:17] <Defusal_> [Si], i am not talking about screen.
[14:17] <bazhang> !attitude > Defusal_
[14:17] <Defusal_> i should have made that more clear
[14:17] <ikonia> Defusal_: I didn't say you where talking about screen
[14:17] <ikonia> Defusal_: re-read what I said
[14:17] <ikonia> Defusal_: I said there are some clients that act LIKE screen
[14:17] <Defusal_> bazhang, my attitude was fine until i got harassed
[14:18] <Defusal_> ikonia, i have not yet responding to you
[14:18] <ikonia> Defusal_: in that the front end you see isn't actually doing the work , the application daemon is
[14:18] <bazhang> Defusal_, thats enough.
[14:18] <JSeymour> Defusal_: You're more likely to get better help elsewhere, is all I'm saying.  You're looking for expertise that might better be found elsehwere.
[14:18] <Defusal_> responded*
[14:18] <Defusal_> JSeymour, i got that, thanks
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Defusal_  there's also the channel #network or #networking
[14:18] <nmvictor> ikonia: well, im not clear with the settings to write to /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[14:18] <JSeymour> Defusal_: You're welcome.  Good luck finding your answer.
[14:19] <ikonia> nmvictor: ok, are you following a guide ?
[14:19] <nmvictor> ikonia: I was, some web pages
[14:19]  * JSeymour wonders if he should try *his* question on #debian?
[14:19] <ikonia> nmvictor: which ones
[14:20] <Defusal_> ikonia, i am pretty sure theres no daemon involved
[14:20] <nmvictor> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[14:21] <Defusal_> MonkeyDust: no sshd or server configuration has changed
[14:21] <ikonia> nmvictor: ok, so looking at the dhcp server config example in that link, what part isn't clear ?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Defusal_  it seems you're refusing each and any tip you're getting here, better ask your question in the #network channel
[14:22] <nmvictor> ikonia: First, the address used after subnet, does it have to be the one used or is their a particular one I have to use?
[14:22] <Defusal_> MonkeyDust, my question is quite specific, but as i said, i will try ask in other linux related channels
[14:23] <Defusal_> and im not refusing anything
[14:23] <Defusal_> i am looking for a very specific answer
[14:23] <ikonia> Defusal_: contact the application vendor for an explination
[14:23] <nibbler_> resolved: defective mouse key :(
[14:23] <Defusal_> ikonia, my question is unrelated to the client, i want to know how sshd possibly allows this
[14:23] <Defusal_> and how i can exploit it to resume sessions
[14:24] <ikonia> Defusal_: you'll need to know how the client works to understand that
[14:24] <Defusal_> but most importantly, how it is possible in the first place
[14:24] <ikonia> Defusal_: as I said it maybe running a daemon/service as some windows ssh clients do
[14:24] <ikonia> Defusal_: finding out from the client vendor how it works is the first step
[14:24] <Defusal_> ikonia, as i said, im pretty sure theres no daemon, i am looking at my process list now
[14:24] <ikonia> Defusal_: sorry, I didn't know you could read instead all the applications binaries
[14:25] <ikonia> Defusal_: ask the vendor how it works, once they explain how it works you can look at working out if this is a risk or not
[14:25] <ikonia> it's pointless to speculate
[14:25] <ikonia> get facts, work with facts
[14:25] <Defusal_> regardless of the clients works, sshd either has a serious flaw, or a feature
[14:25] <nmvictor> ikonia: is their a proble using any address?
[14:25] <Defusal_> either way, i want to know about it
[14:25] <Halli> !identify
[14:25]  * JSeymour suspects a client-side "SO" setting on the 'doze side...
[14:25] <ikonia> nmvictor: it's your dhcp pool
[14:25] <ikonia> Defusal_: then ask the client maker how it works and you can work out if it's an ssh security flaw, or just the client doing work for you and it's fine
[14:25] <oCean> JSeymour: no need for /me commands. Also, the MS product is called "Windows", please don't use silly misspellings
[14:28] <JSeymour> oCean: If you had to ride herd on a corral-full of *Windows* boxen, you might not regard "silly misspellings" as quite so silly ;)
[14:30] <gandhijee_> hey, i seem to have lost the ability to use the mouse and click on my windows.... i can see the cursor and click the titlebars in the bar at the bottom
[14:30] <gandhijee_> but i can't actually get to the menus or anything in the windows....any ideas?
[14:30] <jamesbeebop> Hello all.  I have 11.10 64 bit running as a guest inside virtualbox, hosted on 64bit Windows 7.  Display is listed as "VBX", and I'm using the xfce window manager.  When I drag a window (or sometimes resize, or otherwise 'move' it) some of the text, or window dressing, or both goes fuzzy, with artifacts all over the place, and won't refresh.  If I minimize it, or pop another window on top (or otherwise force the refresh) it 
[14:31] <mneptok> JSeymour: 'round these parts we don't take too kindly to folk slingin' stuff ovber fences, son. don't make me get all ornery and take Ol' Reliable out.
[14:31] <jo__> hello, i got a question, can anybody tell me where i can download ubuntu 8.0.4.2 ?
[14:31] <auronandace> !8.04 | jo__
[14:32] <theShadow-> good evening gentlemen
[14:32] <ikonia> jo__: that distro is end of life, are you %100 sure you want that one
[14:32] <mneptok> jo__: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:32] <mi3> Hello!
[14:32] <mneptok> ikonia: 12 months left for server support.
[14:32] <ikonia> mneptok: true
[14:33] <mneptok> jo__: what ikonia said is 100% valid unless you are installing the server edition. and if you are, why not wait a couple weeks until the next LTS release drops?
[14:33] <mi3> can someone suggest how can I grep specific information from a website?
[14:33] <theShadow-> I am soon going to attempt installing ubuntu in a partition on my apple laptop
[14:33] <jo__> i am. its for an ums system i am goint to set up
[14:33] <nmvictor> ikonia: Do you mind if i get back to you later. Thanks.
[14:34] <mneptok> jo__: you do not want to be deploying production systems on a release that old and that close to EOL.
[14:35] <theShadow-> does anyone here have any experience with installing ubuntu from OSX?
[14:35] <auronandace> jo__: 10.04 is also lts and supported til 2015
[14:35] <auronandace> !mac | theshadow
[14:35] <jo__> it is for school =)
[14:36] <theShadow-> oh also
[14:36] <jo__> i would prefer a stable version too but i got old scripts =(
[14:36] <theShadow-> every guide i have found recommends using rEFIt
[14:36] <mneptok> jo__: i would not start building systems on a 4 year old release.
[14:36] <theShadow-> but as far as I know, it does not yet work with 10.7
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> 10.7?
[14:37] <theShadow-> lion
[14:37] <theShadow-> latest version of OSX
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> ok
[14:38] <theShadow-> as far as I can tell, the reason for installing it is, if I install linux in a partition, my computer will automatically default to linux, instead of OSX
[14:38] <theShadow-> or something
[14:39] <mneptok> theShadow-: i have no experience with Macs, but my Thinkpad with UEFI did not require rEFIt.
[14:39] <theShadow-> ok
[14:39] <theShadow-> I will just install it
[14:40] <theShadow-> whats the worse that could happen, right? :p
[14:40] <theShadow-> ok next question
[14:40] <mneptok> theShadow-: you should see a very small FAT32 or FAT partition on the disk. be sure to tell Linux to mount this at /boot/efi/
[14:40] <jo__> theShadow: just press alt at boot and you can choose your partition
[14:40] <WLU> how can I tell what video driver is in use?
[14:41] <theShadow-> what format should I make the linux partition>
[14:41] <theShadow-> ?
[14:41] <Abhijit> ext4
[14:42] <theShadow-> ok, can ubuntu reformat the partition to what it needs?
[14:42] <Abhijit> yes
[14:42] <theShadow-> ok
[14:42] <auronandace> WLU: lspci will tell you what graphics card you have and lsmod will list the modules loaded
[14:42] <auronandace> WLU: lspci | grep vga
[14:43] <oCean> WLU: and lscpi -k will show the modules used for that device, for example   lspci -k |grep -i vga -A 3
[14:43] <auronandace> oCean: cool, i guess i was going the long way around :)
[14:44] <jo__> got it...thx to all who helped me. see you
[14:44] <oCean> auronandace: sometimes there are shortcuts :)
[14:44] <WLU> auronandace, oCean thanks foundit seems also modprobe -l will list all
[14:45] <theShadow-> ok here goes guys
[14:45] <theShadow-> wish me luck
[14:46] <WLU> auronandace, oCean I am tryinmg to get gnome-shell working with an  nVidia  GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] card. I can only get it to work with the nvidia driver under classic. with the nouveau driver displays just shows one monitor and does not even recognize the second. Any ideas?
[14:47] <toobaz> Hello everybody. In evolution, the "From", "To", "Cc:" and "Subject" have disappeared. My evolution composer appears like that: http://pietrobattiston.it/c/evo.png . Anyone has any hints?
[14:47] <toobaz> I have no idea of what to do...
[14:48] <mi3> how can I grep information from a website using grep? Can someone suggest?
[14:48] <toobaz> mi3: you cannot, simply using grep. You can couple grep with wget, for instance. But for non-totally-trivial tasks, you'd better go with a simple python script.
[14:48] <jatt> mi3: lynx -dump www.google.com | grep google
[14:49] <mi3> toobaz, means i need to download the website with wget, then use grep, right?
[14:50] <jatt> nope, you can use lynx as I told you
[14:50] <sacarlson> WLU: was nvidea working before gnome-shell?  I installed gnome-shell with nvidea and didn't require any changes
[14:50] <toobaz> mi3: jatt's command works great fine if that's what you need
[14:50] <toobaz> (just "great")
[14:50] <roasted> Question - I was tinkering with Unison a little bit... is there a way to set custom flags for it, similar to rsync? -a, -t, etc?
[14:51] <sacarlson> WLU: oh I only run one monitor so me ??
[14:51] <WLU> sacarlson: yes it was but not with unity as well. Only classic will do
[14:51] <toobaz> mi3: no, please don't pm me (not even to ask me if you can pm me).
[14:51] <WLU> sacarlson: I think that might be the problem
[14:52] <WLU> anyone has nVidea driver working with two monitors and gnome-shell or unity?
[14:53] <isoscelesrectang> exit
[14:56] <WLU> exit
[15:00] <dmt> Возможно ли запустить tunngle под wine?
[15:01] <auronandace> !ru | dmt
[15:04] <mandinga> !list
[15:05]  * dmt Is it possible to run tunngle in wine?
[15:05] <dmt> Is it possible to run tunngle in wine?
[15:05] <bazhang> dmt, check the appdb
[15:05] <auronandace> !appdb | dmt
[15:06] <bazhang> dmt, after that /join #winehq
[15:06] <mandinga> !addon
[15:07] <auronandace> !brain | mandinga
[15:07] <phong_> hi guys, i have realvnc server and a key, does anyone know how to register in ubuntu?
[15:07] <bazhang> mandinga, add on for what
[15:08] <mandinga> !list
[15:09] <bazhang> mandinga, no warez here
[15:09] <bazhang> mandinga, /msg ubottu please
[15:09] <mandinga> ok ok beg ypou pardon
[15:10] <theShadow-> blaaarg
[15:10] <theShadow-> why does ubuntu require 3 partitions
[15:11] <ikonia> it doesn't
[15:11] <theShadow-> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html
[15:11] <theShadow-> is that a windows thing then?
[15:11] <ikonia> theShadow-: what ?
[15:11] <theShadow-> it says in order to dual boot, it has to have 3 partitions
[15:12] <theShadow-> swap, root, and home
[15:12] <ikonia> no it doens't
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> theShadow-  on that page, it is advised to have a separate /home partition
[15:12] <ikonia> you only "need" root - you should probably have swap, and you can have /home on a seperate partition if you want to
[15:12] <theShadow-> ok
[15:12] <auronandace> theShadow-: only root is really required, but swap is recommended
[15:12] <tret> if you delete the ubuntu partition you won't be able to boot windows so it's prolly for boot
[15:12] <ikonia> you can do it with one partition, however two is more realistic as swap is useful on it's own partition
[15:12] <ikonia> tret: that has nothing to do with it
[15:13] <theShadow-> can I create the swap partition later?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> theShadow-  you can disable it, with swapoff -a
[15:13] <mneptok> theShadow-: if you leave unpartitioned space, yes. but then you'll have to activate it all manually.
[15:13] <rebe> theshadow make swap file it's more handy
[15:13] <theShadow-> at this point, I want to keep everything as simple as possible, just to get it working to make sure I didn't break anything
[15:14] <mneptok> theShadow-: the simple approach is to create swap space during installation.
[15:14] <theShadow-> ok
[15:14] <bingomania> hey all DHCP question... I remember before when i use to run sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server it use to ask me setup questions (i.e. on what network interface should the dhcp server listen?)  How come it no longer asks these questions at install?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> theShadow-  then use swap, it's default and you don't have to find out how to disable it
[15:14] <theShadow-> would you recommend creating all of the partitions from the installer?\
[15:14] <Urchin> is there any way of disabling framebuffer in 10.04?
[15:14] <e2xistz> if I have 16gb ram, should I have swap?
[15:14] <tret> so if you do plan to remove ubuntu windows won
[15:14] <bingomania> i'm trying to set up dhcp server and cant even start it prob cuzit doesnt know where to listen
[15:14] <mneptok> theShadow-: hibernating/suspending that MacBook will require swap space
[15:14] <tret> so if you do plan to remove ubuntu windows won't boot unless you make a boot partition for grub
[15:14] <theShadow-> ok
[15:14] <bingomania> how can i run the dhcp3-server initial configuration again?
[15:15] <mneptok> tret: untrue.
[15:15] <auronandace> tret: he is running a mac
[15:15] <mneptok> tret: remove Ubuntu, delete its partitions, run the MBR restore tool from Windows. done.
[15:16] <theShadow-> I had originally created the partition for window from OSX's disc utility
[15:16] <e2xistz> What's the name of this MBR restore tool?
[15:16] <theShadow-> er, for linux
[15:17] <mneptok> e2xistz: "fdisk /mbr" used to do it on NT3 and such
[15:17]  * mneptok has not used Windows since the 1990s
[15:17] <e2xistz> mneptok: What about Windows 7?
[15:17] <Egbert9s5> my disk space went 0 and now i'm getting weird errors. it's something to do with the ecryptfs
[15:17] <Egbert9s5> what do i do?
[15:18] <mneptok> e2xistz: invent a time machine, bring a copy of Win7 back to 1996, and i might know.
[15:18] <Sidewinder1> e2xistz, I believe that it's accessed by booting the Windows Repair disk and selecting fix/repair MBR.
[15:18] <e2xistz> mneptok: I do have a time machine, but currently it's forward only. Here, now, you have a Win 7.
[15:18] <mneptok> Egbert9s5: boot the system from live media (CD or USB), mount the encrypted filespace and look at what's using what.
[15:18] <theShadow-> ok, take 2
[15:19] <Egbert9s5> mneptok: what do you mean what's using what?
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Egbert9s5  start here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560411
[15:19] <e2xistz> Sidewinder1: Yes, bootrec.exe /fixmbr /fixboot, but can you use it without a boot disc?
[15:20] <mneptok> Egbert9s5: you say available space dropped to 0. what is using that space and reporting those inodes as in use?
[15:21] <Egbert9s5> mneptok: some files are now unreadable
[15:21] <TorbenBeta> How can I write in a shell script (Bash) that the process shall be put on hold? Control plus c.
[15:21] <Sidewinder1> e2xistz, I'm not sure; like mneptok, I haven't used Win for a long time, also, never had to repair MBR, sorry.
[15:21] <bunny69> hello
[15:21] <bunny69> folks... i'm desperately trying to master vhosting... i know that there are so many docs and such... but still, vhosting gives me such a headache... perhaps someone could point me to a bullet proof solution? i just want to addd a vhost and forget about it instead of playing funny games with apache all the time
[15:22] <bingomania> can anyone help me get DHCP-SERVER started?
[15:22] <bunny69> e.g. i have 3 different domains on 3 vhosts right now... different IPs also, and now i added 4th vhost and out of the blue apache sends a visitor to same virtual dir for 2 of those 4 vhosts... why on earth is that?
[15:22] <bingomania> it wont start... usually during the install when i have done this in the past it just asks questions like (what interface do you want to listen on_)  and this time it never did
[15:23] <bunny69> bingomania did you check logs?
[15:23] <dlentz> TorbenBeta, sleep?  Maybe ask in #bash
[15:24] <bunny69> is there anyone really good with hosting multiple sites on a single machine (few IPs) willing to help me out and give a bullet proof solution on vhosting?
[15:25] <TorbenBeta> dlentz, thanks.
[15:25] <bingomania> bunny69 how do i see the syslogs for the dhcp server... i looked in /var/log/ but i see nothing there for dhcp
[15:25] <mneptok> bunny69: the bullet-proof solution is understanding how apache2 does this. not someone understanding it for you.
[15:25] <thedonvaughn> bunny69: depends on your webserver.  Just use VirtualHost in apache after turning it on and it's pretty simple
[15:25] <bunny69> well that's what i'm doing
[15:25] <bunny69> but
[15:25] <mneptok> bunny69: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/  <--- you understanding that yourself is the bullet-proof solution.
[15:26] <bunny69> i just added a new vhost... standard files in sites-enabled and sites-available... but out of the blue the same dir is used for TWO domains and i have NO idea why is that
[15:26] <mneptok> bunny69: because you copy/pasted
[15:26] <bunny69> i edited carefuly
[15:26] <bunny69> and so far it worked nicely for 3 domains
[15:26] <bingomania> bunny69: i cant find any logs for dhcpd
[15:27] <thedonvaughn> bunny69: so each of hte domains has their own virtualhost directive and a different documentroot?
[15:27] <bunny69> yes sir
[15:27] <atpa8a> hello
[15:27] <bittin> hi
[15:27] <atpa8a> seems like ubuntu is 'Starting OpenSSH server' once for everty NIC or alias...
[15:28] <bunny69> and this is why i don't really understand why wouldn't it work... especially because it did work for 3 domains before
[15:28] <atpa8a> is that true?
[15:28] <bunny69> i triple checked DocumentRoot for that 4th domain and it is well defined
[15:29] <bunny69> and for some stupid reason it works but it also made some previous domain point to the same dir
[15:29] <asarch> How do you transfer the ISO to a USB memory stick?
[15:29] <bunny69> while 2 other work just fine as usual...
[15:29] <asarch> UNetBootIn fails
[15:29] <asarch> :-(
[15:30] <asarch> Can you dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/myusb
[15:30] <asarch> ?
[15:30] <bingomania> anyone know why i cant find the dhcpd log anywhere
[15:30] <bingomania> i'm having issues starting dhcp3-server  it after a fresh install an
[15:30] <auronandace> asarch: if it is 11.10 yes
[15:30] <bingomania> and i cant find tit anywhere in the syslog
[15:30] <bazhang> asarch, as of 11.10 the iso are hybrid
[15:31] <bingomania> i cant believe this is an issue... i've never had this problem with dhcp3-server
[15:31] <bingomania> (guess it's now ISC Dhcp server)
[15:31] <droid-0854> asarch, might get root check error
[15:32] <atpa8a> asarch: don't think so... Universal USB Installer but it's for windows
[15:33] <bunny69> ok... thanks for your help... when 1631 are in and no one can help with vhosting then something is damn wrong...
[15:33] <asarch> Thank you very much guys :-)
[15:33] <asarch> Thank you
[15:34] <droid-0854> :)
[15:34] <dasunsrule32> Does anyone have a Dell Latitude E6510 and the closing the lid won't sleep on 12.04? I'm running gnome-shell, latest from the precise repos
[15:34] <bazhang> dasunsrule32, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[15:35] <dasunsrule32> ok
[15:35] <dasunsrule32> thanks
[15:35] <dasunsrule32> ;)
[15:39] <zer0her0> here's a dumb question, why do some packaged get kept back when doing a apt-get upgrade?
[15:40] <auronandace> zer0her0: did you apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade?
[15:41] <zer0her0> auronandace, yep
[15:41] <zer0her0> sudo'd of course ;)
[15:41] <auronandace> zer0her0: got any extra repos or ppas installed?
[15:42] <atpa8a> hmm
[15:42] <atpa8a> freaking resolveconf
[15:42] <atpa8a> not updating /etc/resolv.conf
[15:42] <zer0her0> yes to repos but not to the PPAs
[15:43] <auronandace> zer0her0: that is likely why then, the conflicts are likely in the repos you added
[15:43] <zer0her0> things being held back aren't from the extra repo(s)(not sure if it's just one there maybe 2 repos i've added)
[15:44] <quiescens> zer0her0: you should most likely do apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:44] <auronandace> zer0her0: what is being held back?
[15:44] <zer0her0> it's linux-(headers-/image-)generic and 2 flashplugin items
[15:44] <zer0her0> quiescens, dist-upgrade?
[15:45] <bazhang> zer0her0, yes, it's not a version upgrade
[15:45] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | zer0her0
[15:45] <zer0her0> ah ok sweet, hehe thanks :)
[15:46] <zer0her0> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 5
[15:46] <zer0her0> Abort.
[15:46] <zer0her0> hahahaha, man i think i need food. :)
[15:47] <phil_phys> can you install ubuntu in a asus eee pc 1101ha using a pendrive??
[15:47] <quiescens> 5 is totally not an answer to a yes/no question
[15:47] <e2xistz> phil_phys: yes
[15:47] <phil_phys> e2xistz: If yes how?
[15:47] <Nach0z> phil_phys: and by "yes" he means "5"
[15:47] <zer0her0> coworker says "Clearly 5 is the right answer" when i started laughing he asked what was going on.
[15:48] <e2xistz> phil_phys: unetbootin
[15:48] <shwaiil> Q: I'm buying a new computer, but I dont want win7, neither pay for the license, so I want to install ubuntu. Is this going to be compatible ? http://pastie.org/private/h7ny7z3p3nsvm4phmcqw3g
[15:48] <shwaiil> tks for looking
[15:48] <tolland> is there is a project for a tool to manage an access point? (in this case the wireless TX/RX is attached to a desktop, so I can apply the QOS shaping rules via netfilter)
[15:48] <phil_phys> e2xists: I downloaded Xubuntu with UNetbootin
[15:48] <Nach0z> shwaiil: no reason it douldn't be. ubuntu supports pretty much everything standard now.
[15:48] <tolland> but it is for a cafe with some people who would need to use the gui
[15:48] <Nach0z> that being said, shwaiil, I WANT YOUR COMPUTER :<
[15:48] <shwaiil> Nach0z: hum ok
[15:49] <Nach0z> shwaiil: keep in mind though, ubuntu doesn't like to run a bunch of Windows games.
[15:49] <shwaiil> Nach0z: it's not mine, just one idea :I it's a sacrifice I'm thinking about doing
[15:49] <e2xistz> phil_phys: use unetbootin to write it to the flash drive, then boot from the flashdrive.
[15:49] <shwaiil> Nach0z: its to work
[15:49] <shwaiil> Nach0z: my last game was delta force : black hawk down..that was 8 years ago ?!
[15:49] <Nach0z> ahhhh. then why the heck do you need a 560Ti?
[15:49] <shwaiil> never played again
[15:49] <phil_phys> e2xistz: I did it but i see a blac screen
[15:49] <shwaiil> Nach0z: II work in multimedia, I do programming, 2d, 3d, audio
[15:49] <Nach0z> ah gotcha.
[15:50] <shwaiil> yah :)
[15:50] <Nach0z> programming -> Linux <3
[15:50] <Nach0z> seriously
[15:50] <e2xistz> phil_phys: Sorry, couldn't help you further.
[15:50] <shwaiil> but maybe I'll need win for audio, but I'm not doing audio production I think, at least for a few more months
[15:50] <zer0her0> ok seems to be working, thank you: quiescens, bazhang, & auronandace.
[15:50] <nullucas> hi, I'd like to manipulate audio with enough precision, for example to synchronize beats with other beats or voices, stretch music or voices to make them match a video or a certain rhythm, etc. I don't think I can do this easily with audacity. What software could I use? Thanks
[15:51] <auronandace> !yay | zer0her0
[15:51] <phil_phys> e2xistz: I think there is a problem on incompatibility
[15:51] <zer0her0> :)
[15:51]  * zer0her0 dances ubottu 
[15:55] <e2xistz> phil_phys: try turning off quick boot in the bios.
[15:56] <atpa8a> grrr
[15:57] <atpa8a> what's the deal with the freaking resolvconf?.. it's not updating /etc/resolv.conf even tho i added the dns- lines to /etc/network/interfaces
[15:57] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, you have access to a ubuntu setup already, you probably need to use the nomodeset option, and unetbootin may not let you get to that option easily.
[15:57] <dorgan> ok so i've just installed ufw on most of my other servers, all the same version of ubuntu  yet when i try to install it on one box i am getting "cp: cannot create regular file `/var/lib/ucf/cache/:etc:ufw:before.rules': Invalid argument"
[15:58] <dorgan> any ideas?
[15:58] <bazhang> nullucas, something like ardour and/or rosegarden perhaps?
[15:58] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | phil_phys
[15:58] <phil_phys> I don't know nomodeset option
[15:59] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, you could could just install with the alternative cd a text install.
[15:59] <Fyodorovna> on a usb
[16:00] <kury> anyone know where the "sem" command is hidden within the ubuntu packages?
[16:00] <bazhang> kury to do what
[16:00] <Xabster-lap> How do I change what DNS-server to use in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:00] <phil_phys> How can you install alternative cd ubuntu 11.10 i386.iso on a usb?
[16:01] <phil_phys> On a windows system i used UNetbootin
[16:01] <nullucas> bazhang, yeah, it looks like I need something like Ardour... I haven't tried it though. I'll try it, thanks.
[16:01] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, same use unetbootin, the black scren is a graphic failure probably the alternative does not need it.
[16:02] <kury> bazhang: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement#I_want_to_process_a_bunch_of_files_in_parallel.2C_and_when_one_finishes.2C_I_want_to_start_the_next._And_I_want_to_make_sure_there_are_exactly_5_jobs_running_at_a_time.
[16:02] <zykotick9> phil_phys: if you are on gnu/linux you can just cat the iso to the USB (IF its 11.10, older versions aren't hybrid iso/usb images)
[16:05] <e2xistz> phil_phys: ASUS netbooks has a bios feature to fast or quick boot by bypassing the bios initializations. Disable that and see if it works.
[16:05] <kroonrs> hi.  I'm trying to connect my laptop to my monitor with a DVI cable, but when I boot I get a kernel panic.  VGA cable works ok.
[16:05] <phil_phys> I'm downloading UNetbootin on ubuntu so I can install the iso on a usb
[16:05] <zykotick9> kroonrs: the kernel panic probably isn't related to the DVI cable, just sayin'
[16:06] <kury> bazhang: any idea?
[16:06] <kroonrs> zykotick9: only thing that changed was swapping out the cable
[16:06] <bazhang> kury, sorry no idea
[16:06] <zykotick9> kroonrs: suppose it's possible... i'd still be surprised
[16:07] <zykotick9> kroonrs: unless this is ATI - then all bets are off ;)
[16:07] <kroonrs> zykotick9: how do I know if it's ATI?
[16:07] <Xabster-lap> How do I change what DNS-server to use in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:07] <zykotick9> kroonrs: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[16:07] <zykotick9> kroonrs: oh, but you can't boot...
[16:07] <Fyodorovna> Xabster-lap, I set that in my router personally.
[16:08] <kroonrs> zykotick9: I'm booted now - with VGA
[16:08] <Xabster-lap> Fyodorovna, i can't - it's not my network
[16:08] <kroonrs> it says Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) and nVidia Corporation GF108 [Quadro NVS 4200M] (rev ff)
[16:08] <kroonrs> zykotick9: ^
[16:09] <zykotick9> kroonrs: ahhh you have hybrid intel/nvidia - you need some other software (that i always forget the name of, something with bee in it)
[16:09] <kroonrs> zykotick9: bumblebee - installed
[16:09] <mneptok> kroonrs: a Dell?
[16:09] <kroonrs> mneptok: yes, and a dell monitor
[16:09] <dorgan> anyone?
[16:10] <mneptok> kroonrs: which video chipset is actually in use? the nVidia or the Intel?
[16:10] <zykotick9> kroonrs: sorry i haven't played with bumblebee at all (don't have that hardware), i really can't assist.  good luck.
[16:10] <kroonrs> mneptok: enable optimus is checked in the bios.
[16:10] <mneptok> kroonrs: try the other chipset?
[16:11] <kroonrs> mneptok: ok, will give that a try
[16:12] <theShadow-> ok quick question
[16:12] <theShadow-> where should I install the bootloader?
[16:12] <Fyodorovna> theshadow, you have a mbr set up no gpt?
[16:13] <theShadow-> i don't know what those are
[16:13] <zykotick9> kroonrs: BTW, if you have intel/nvidia hybrid gpus that could explain the kernel panic your seeing.  with a normal video card/driver using vga or dvi wouldn't generally cause kernel issues, with hybrid i can see it.
[16:14] <Fyodorovna> theshadow, can you in the terminal run sudo fdisk -l and then pastebin the info.
[16:14] <Fyodorovna> !pastebin | theshadow
[16:14] <theShadow-> hmm
[16:14] <theShadow-> ok
[16:14] <theShadow-> so i was supposed to install it in the same partition as ubuntu
[16:14] <Fyodorovna> theshadow, no
[16:14] <theShadow-> but when I rebooted, it booted into OSX
[16:14] <phil_phys> Do I need a particular format for my usb key for installing alternate i386?
[16:15] <Fyodorovna> theshadow, ah OSX a apple it is specific and I can't help.
[16:15] <theShadow-> oh thats assuming I have refit
[16:15] <theShadow-> rEFIt
[16:16] <Fyodorovna> !info osx
[16:16] <Doodie> i am having problem when shutting down unbuntu 11.10 . It stops on the shutdown screen with that 4 dots everytime. how do i solve it?
[16:16] <Corey> Doodie: I'd check ACPI.
[16:17] <scisteffan> Hello, I'm trying to extract dictionary files from the Babylon glossary. I use 7-Zip to view the archive Babylon9_setup_dict.exe... none of the files I downloaded contain a *.bgl file...
[16:17] <scisteffan> 2011-08-18 08:34:47 .....         9311         9728  .text
[16:17] <scisteffan> 2011-08-18 08:34:47 .....         1462         1536  .rdata
[16:17] <scisteffan> 2011-08-18 08:34:47 .....         2828          512  .data
[16:17] <scisteffan>                     .....          318          296  .rsrc/ICON/1.ico
[16:17] <FloodBot1> scisteffan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <scisteffan>                     .....         1406         1384  .rsrc/ICON/2.ico
[16:17] <scisteffan>                     .....          766          744  .rsrc/ICON/3.ico
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> scisteffan  exe is windows, better ask in ##windows (that's double #)
[16:18] <Corey> scisteffan: And don't pasteflood there, either.
[16:19] <Doodie> Corey, where do i check that from?
[16:20] <scisteffan> MonkeyDust: I'm running ubuntu 11, but because the Babylon glossary website only contains .exe files, I have to extract the .exe file which is supposed to contain a .bgl file, which I intend to use in Star Dict. I guess it's an issue related to Babylon rather than ubuntu. Sorry for the pasteflood!
[16:22] <bingomania> ok... i normally am AMAZING with GPARTED but i got an issue this time... i have a system drive in NTFS then I have an extended partition (THAT I CANNOT LOSE) and then I have unallocated space... I need to move the unallocated space in front of the extended (or the extended to the left) but I cant
[16:22] <theShadow-> oh ok
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> scisteffan  neither babylon or .bgl rings a bell to me, sorry
[16:22] <theShadow-> OSX uses a newer boot manager thing
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !babylon
[16:23] <Fyodorovna> bingomania, can you give the channel a screenshot of gparted in a imagebin?
[16:23] <theShadow-> which breaks compatibility with older technology (EFI)
[16:23] <bingomania> Fyodorovna: i'll try... give me a minute
[16:23] <Lunar_Lamp> 3
[16:24] <bingomania> !paste
[16:24] <Fyodorovna> !imagebin | bingomania
[16:24] <scisteffan> MonkeyDust: Do you use any dictionary programs at all?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> scisteffan  guess not
[16:24] <phil_phys> Which unity should I use to put thr iso on usb with UNetbootin
[16:25] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, unity is a desktop.
[16:25] <phil_phys> unit like C, D, E on windows
[16:25] <phil_phys> but on linux system??
[16:26] <bingomania> lol gonna take a sec booting gparted from cd again
[16:26] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, your question is convoluted, are you trying to install from windows?
[16:26] <phil_phys> no I'm on a linux system now
[16:26] <mydogsnameisrudy> think phil_phys is looking for the drive
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> phil_phys  linux does not use C, D, E ...
[16:27] <phil_phys> yes the  drive in italin is Unità
[16:27] <phil_phys> in italian drive is called Unità
[16:27] <phil_phys> I leave it empty ok??
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> phil_phys  in a Terminal, type sudo fdisk -l to see how Linux names drives
[16:28] <bingomania> bleh gparted keeps crashing now wtf...
[16:28] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, run that fdisk -l command and pastebin the info as well.
[16:28] <Fyodorovna> !pastebin | phil_phys
[16:29] <mrfunk> Hiii
[16:29] <mrfunk> i need to install this patch, anyone could assist me through the process please? http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/84146
[16:29] <phil_phys> yes sda and sdb
[16:30] <olegb> mrfunk: if you need to ask adding a patch to a source is a bad idea :-)
[16:30] <nmvictor> ikonia: hi
[16:30] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, you have the other OS's backed up?
[16:32] <mrfunk> olegb: Thank you for your advice, i agree with you, but its been days trying to fix this issue im experiencing and that is my only hope, i wont stop until i make it work, although i do not know how to proceed
[16:32] <nmvictor> ikonia: About the PXE guide at this section: /nfsroot             192.168.2.xxx(rw,no_root_squash,async) , I would like to use a wildcard, would this suffice: /nfsroot             192.168.2.*(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> mrfunk  such a patch is more something for advanced users, who don't have to ask how to do it
[16:33] <bazhang> mrfunk, for wine? app support and such in #winehq
[16:33] <phil_phys> the download of the iso of alternate is interrupted why??
[16:33] <Gorkyman> hey guys... it keep happening to me that something is messing with the focus or smth... all the apps menus are displayed only for a sec and same thing with dropdowns
[16:33] <bingomania> !imagebin
[16:34] <Gorkyman> same if I do a right click
[16:34] <funnybunny_> looking for help with Zydas WLA-54L usb Wifi card, modules are ON and card is turned on on ifconfig etc. but it doesnt see any networks (rarerly it will catch 1 bacon or sth)
[16:34] <MadsRC> Is there any othrt way to have a windows share show up in the ubuntu filesystem, than using the "File -> Connect to server"? Because connecting that way won't allow me to view the remote harddisk from inside VLC Like whne I need some subtitles that are on that server)
[16:34] <mrfunk> MonkeyDust: i know, although i still need to do it, its my only hope
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> !wifi| funnybunny_ start here
[16:35] <Gorkyman> is it a bug or smth ?
[16:36] <olegb> mrfunk: you could read patch(1) for a start and the get the code you want to patch
[16:36] <zykotick9> MadsRC: you're hitting a limitation on fuse/gvfs/etc.  you can put your SAMBA mounts in fstab and have them mount as properly as smb can on gnu/linux.  (ps because it's samba i can't help further, samba doesn't use regular gnu/linux mount options)
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> mrfunk  better ask in the channel #winehq as the link also has its origin in winehq
[16:37] <bingomania> ok i'm confused....   i just had gparted running no issues just a second ago and now it wont even start
[16:37] <bingomania> it just crashes
[16:38] <nmvictor> Is it possible to boot my remastered Ubuntu across the network using PXE.
[16:38] <mrfunk> olegb: someone is helping me out, thanks anyways MonkeyDust
[16:39] <Fyodorovna> bingomania, just reboot the cd that may get it working.
[16:40] <bingomania> Fyodorovna: did no luck
[16:40] <bingomania> 4 or 5 times now
[16:40] <bingomania> it literally JUST worked seconds ago
[16:40] <bingomania> i've used this image so many times too
[16:41] <fission6> i have a user i ssh as, i want a colleague to be able to ssh as them too - would i just have them generate an ssh and add it to the remote user?
[16:41] <bingomania> shouldnt have listened to my boss...  he told me to try bootit to see if that could do it, but nope i knew it wouldnt
[16:41] <bingomania> now i think that screwed it up somehow
[16:41] <bingomania> cuz before bootit it worked then after bootit it didnt work
[16:42] <Fyodorovna> bingomania, when you move partitions around which it sounds like you need to do the partition numbers can get out of order, just a heads up. YOu would move the who;e partition to get the unallcated in another place.
[16:42] <harshvardhan> hii.. i just installed some updates in my ubntu bt they made it unstable,, how can i restore my system????
[16:42] <mcb_> fission6: Just create a system user for them and they will be able to ssh.
[16:43] <Fyodorovna> harshvardhan, there is no restore.
[16:43] <harshvardhan> umm,, is there any way by which i can remove latest installes packeges???
[16:43] <fission6> mcb_: sorry what? basially i want my colleague to be able to retrieve log files from the system, so i was thinking scp
[16:44] <zykotick9> harshvardhan: apt doesn't support downgrading.  all the config scripts are written in one direction -> to upgrade
[16:44] <Fyodorovna> harshvardhan, you might consider just describing the actual problem.
[16:44] <V_PauAmma_V> Hi: trying to troubleshoot a NFS/NIS problem, and I think I narrowed it down to NIS being misconfigured somehow, but I see nothing obvious in /etc/yp* or /etc/netgroup. http://paste.ubuntu.com/891212/ has the detailed symptoms. Anyone can point me in the right direction?
[16:44] <mcb_> fission6: Just create a reagular user in the system that your colleague need access.
[16:44] <harshvardhan> when i login via "ubuntu classic" the screen flickers,, therefore i have to login in "cassic safe" mode.. :(
[16:45] <Fyodorovna> harshvardhan, have you looked in additional drivers for anything?
[16:45] <fission6> mcb_: how do i make it so they can only scp to a folder with the log files?
[16:45] <fission6> ideally symlinks to the new users home folder
[16:46] <harshvardhan> madeinkobaia, yes i did checked, bt its empty..
[16:46] <mcb_> fission6: There should be a ton of ways to do that, but you can configure the home directory to the user you will create to the folder that they need access.
[16:47] <mustermark_> can anyone help me debug my wubi installation not starting?
[16:47] <mcb_> fission6: $ adduser new_user --home <dir_needed>
[16:48] <mcb_> fission6: Also, make sure that they have at least read permission in the directory.
[16:49] <arlink> how do i delete a folder in the terminal?
[16:50] <Todd> rm -r folder
[16:50] <Todd> rm -rf folder (no confirmation.. not recommended)
[16:50] <shwaiil> Q: any problem on having Ubuntu / win7 running together, not as VM. Wasn't there boot problems because of windows or something ? I need to have win in a new computer :P
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> shwaiil  did you install windows before or after ubuntu?
[16:51] <phil_phys> Is better UNetbootin or usb creator??
[16:51] <Fyodorovna> shwaiil, if you have a standard mbr set up and it is a actual dualboot not a wubi it should be problem free.
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> phil_phys  depends on what you prefer
[16:51] <shwaiil> MonkeyDust: I didnt got the computer yet, but I'll start by installing ubuntu
[16:51] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, use usb creator.
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> swex__
[16:51] <mcb_> shwaiil: I have it herem, and i have no problems.... I installed windows7 first, because of the duum windows bootloader.
[16:52] <shwaiil> mcb its better to install win first then ?
[16:52] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, using the creator will alow a easy nomodeset if needed.
[16:52] <Fyodorovna> allow*
[16:52] <mcb_> shwaiil: It is easier, as the windows bootloader dont recognize Linux.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> shwaiil  install windows first, for it will destroy GRUB if you install it second -- GRUB can be repaired but it's better not to
[16:53] <shwaiil> mcb, MonkeyDust so ubuntu installer will do that for me right ?
[16:53] <Fyodorovna> shwaiil, depends on your skills reloading the mbr if that is what your using is easy. If you have a choice instal lwindows first
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> shwaiil  windows recognizes only three OSs: windows, windows and windows
[16:53] <mcb_> shwaiil: Right about that.
[16:53] <floridsdorf> hi
[16:53] <shwaiil> Fyodorovna: yeah, i'll isntall windows first, if ubuntu does that for me...I'm fine
[16:53] <gfc> topic
[16:54] <Fyodorovna> MonkeyDust, please don't say repairing grub is a big deal kit can be purged reinstalled and do many things easily.
[16:54] <Fyodorovna> it*
[16:54] <phil_phys> After I have my alternate on the usb I can install the pendrive on my eee pc?
[16:54] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, install with the pendrive right?
[16:55] <phil_phys> Fyodorovna: Yes this kind of netbook have only  usb
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> Fyodorovna  the guy is a beginner
[16:55] <Fyodorovna> phil_phys, I believe that eeepc is solid state as well am I right?
[16:56] <pb97> can i know which is the best downloader in GUI
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> !best| pb97
[16:56] <phil_phys> Fyodorovns: eee pc 1101ha
[16:56] <Fyodorovna> MonkeyDust, then misinforming is not a god thing, it does not help and is counterproductive to learning, or getting help, bad info sucks.
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Fyodorovna  then don't, please
[16:57] <profxavier> guys, in nano, on the latest Ubuntu, php isn't highlighted correctly, can I adjust the highlighting in nano ?
[16:57] <pb97> i am not taking polls please dont think that
[16:58] <pb97> ubottu : i just want one good downloader
[16:59] <Fyodorovna> pb97, downloader for what?
[16:59] <mcb_> profxavier: I dont use nano, but you should look in /etc/nanorc
[16:59] <pb97> any url Fyodorovna
[17:00] <masen> pb97: have you tried cURL?
[17:00] <Fyodorovna> pb97, that makes no sense the browers do it.
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> pb97  an URL is an address, what exactly do you mean
[17:00] <profxavier> oh, its included already (php)
[17:00] <profxavier> perhaps it isnt what I expected, I guess
[17:01] <pb97> masen: no but i will try
[17:01] <profxavier> thanks mcb_
[17:01] <masen> i use it for everything http/https/ftp
[17:01] <pb97> MonkeyDust: any link like downloading a pdf file
[17:02] <profxavier> can I get someone for 5 mins in PM to discuss file/user permissions please ?
[17:02] <bazhang> !permissions > profxavier
[17:02] <mcb_> profxavier: If it is not highloghting the way you want you can custumize it editing /usr/share/nano/php.nanorc
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> pb97  'any' link makes no sense, you download torrents in a different way than you download pdf files
[17:02] <profxavier> yeah, got it mcb_ thanks again
[17:02] <blendedbychris> after installing ubuntu-desktop how can i login to the gui remotely?
[17:03] <profxavier> bazhang, i had specific questions
[17:03] <masen> MonkeyDust: i download a .torrent exactly the same way i download .pdf
[17:03] <profxavier> which is why I asked for someone's time for 5 mins
[17:03] <bazhang> profxavier, then ask them here
[17:03] <masen> i just open them in different applications
[17:03] <profxavier> in case that wasn't clear
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> masen  yeah, but i mean, the content of the toorent, like a movie or so
[17:03] <bazhang> profxavier, eminently, not the way the channel works though
[17:03] <pb97> MonkeyDust: I dont want downloader for torrent files, I already have a good one
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> pb97  that was just an example
[17:04] <masen> pb97: also have you checked out wget, i believe it's included with ubuntu
[17:05] <nmvictor> how di i verify dhcp3-server is running?
[17:05] <wired_> wget is included, and it's great
[17:05] <profxavier> what permissions should I apply to my /var/www folder for my website ?
[17:06] <Viluin> hi there
[17:06] <bittin> hi
[17:06] <Viluin> I seem to have an issue with my ubuntu installation
[17:06] <pb97> masen:I have tried wget but i want a GUI one
[17:07] <masen> pb97: ohhh, i see. well disregard my suggestions then
[17:07] <Viluin> I installed some upgrades that it notified me about, and it told me to reboot but I decided to postpone the reboot because I was busy. after a while the computer crashed (screen turned black) and I had to do a hard reset. now boot hangs at "checking battery state". :( and I don't even have a laptop
[17:07] <mcb_> nmvictor: $ /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status or you just $ps aux | grep -i dhcp
[17:07] <thatsashok> need a pdf application
[17:07] <Viluin> where can I get help for this?
[17:07] <thatsashok> inbuilt gets force quit
[17:08] <Fyodorovna> thatsashok, there is a reader stock and the aroread app which is adobe.
[17:08] <Viluin> I can't open a terminal when it hangs, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work, my only option is the root terminal in recovery mode but I have no idea what the problem even is
[17:08] <Fyodorovna> acroread* thatsashok
[17:08] <thatsashok> but 64 bit support
[17:09] <thatsashok> foxit and adobe reader are there
[17:09] <thatsashok> but they support only i386
[17:09] <mcb_> thatsashok: You have Okular. Needs some KDE packages, but it is good software for PDFs files.
[17:10] <thatsashok> hmm lemme get that and see
[17:10] <nicofs> Viluin, try "dpkg --configure -a" that might help - but i'm not sure...
[17:10] <mcb_> thatsashok: Well, I like to use it.
[17:11] <nicofs> Viluin, as root
[17:11] <pb97> thatsashok: Document Reader is very good and light on RAM but if u want u can go for Adobe Reader also
[17:11] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. ever since I installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop, my cd/dvd writer behaves weird. It will read cd/dvd ok; but when I try to record an iso file using brasero I have to manually stop the recording process and many of the times the media won't work. Acetone iso doesnt even recognize my laptop having a cd/dvd. Any comments or advice on this issue is most welcome. TIA!
[17:12] <Viluin> hmnm
[17:12] <Viluin> I'll try it
[17:12] <Viluin> I have to reboot into the recovery mode then, lol
[17:12] <Viluin> if it doesn't work I'll post on the forum I guess
[17:13] <newbchessplayer> I just installed Ubuntu server (most recent edition) and had to apt-get gnome shell. What do I need to do to get it to load automatically each login?
[17:13] <nmvictor> mcb_: /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server does not exist, but the ps command works great which bothers me coz I need to restart dhcp3-server.
[17:15] <Fyodorovna> nimbiotics, you might turn off the image and file check plugins it finishes a lot faster.
[17:15] <mcb_> nmvictor: Try: $ /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server I dont recall if Ubuntu changed the default DHCP server as in Debian.
[17:15] <mcb_> nmvictor: I forgot the status in the command Try: $ /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server status
[17:16] <nimbiotics> Fyodorovna: It just never stops, i've waited for more than 12 hours on ocassions
[17:17] <newbchessplayer> I just installed Ubuntu server (most recent edition) and had to apt-get gnome shell. What do I need to do to get it to load automatically each login?
[17:17] <teage> how do i list installed path in terminal. gotta delete python2.7 source files cause i googed the install
[17:17] <nmvictor> mcb_: why am in getting Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[17:17] <teage> *googed*
[17:17] <Fyodorovna> nimbiotics, some suggest using K3b from kubuntu
[17:17] <teage> guufed
[17:18] <Fyodorovna> nimbiotics, could the unit need a cleaning as well.
[17:18] <teage> i googied the install
[17:18] <WLU> can you have an X display with twinview (no xinerama) and both monitors rotated differently than each other.
[17:18] <mcb_> nmvictor: Do not know, but you should check what is the name of your DHCP server daemon......
[17:19] <teage> since when is g  o  o  g a curse word?
[17:19] <nmvictor> mcb_: how, is their a command?
[17:19] <teage> with a "F" at the end
[17:19] <ikonia> teage: what are you on about ? no one has said anything about language
[17:19] <newbchessplayer> argh, could someone please let me know how to get a gui working with ubuntu server?
[17:20] <mcb_> nmvictor: $ls /etc/init.d | grep -i dhcp. It will list all the services with dhcp in the name. It should appers.
[17:20] <teage> ikonia: im here for help to find installed path of python2.7. I know I can get the path with a command in terminal but I cant remember.
[17:21] <ikonia> teage: echo $PATH
[17:21] <newbchessplayer> ikonia, hi
[17:21] <newbchessplayer> o/
[17:21] <Fyodorovna> newbchessplayer, have you tried #ubuntu-server
[17:21] <teage> ikonia: I mentioned language only because I cant input G*O*O*F*Y like its some kind of curse word.
[17:22] <newbchessplayer> thanks Fyodorovna
[17:22] <newbchessplayer> goofy
[17:22] <ikonia> teage: you can use goofy, no-one said you can't
[17:22] <teage> goog
[17:22] <Fyodorovna> newbchessplayer, no problem. :)
[17:22] <nimbiotics> Fyodorovna: hmm i did try k3bbefore using 11.10 and didnt like it ... will give it another shot though. best app i've used for burning on linux is acetone iso or imgburn for windows. Cleaning the laptop was already scheduled for the  following couple of days; it caertainly needs it. Thanks a lot!
[17:22] <teage> ok my bad cant input G*O*O*G
[17:22] <teage> never mind
[17:23] <teage> G*O*O*F
[17:23] <teage> goof
[17:23] <railsraider> anyone can help with nagios nrpe?
[17:23] <railsraider> \
[17:23] <ikonia> teage: ok - stop it
[17:23] <teage> keyboard
[17:23] <nmvictor> I need to restart dhcp3-server and I am having issues with /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart, i get Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[17:23] <ikonia> nmvictor: you don't use the init script
[17:23] <mcb_> newbchessplayer: I dont know if this is the best way to do it, but $apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment and anwsering yes to all dependencies should install Gnome. I would do it first in a test machine.....
[17:23] <ikonia> nmvictor: you use "service to invoke the upstart script
[17:24] <ikonia> newbchessplayer: install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[17:24] <railsraider> when i /usr/local/nagios/libexec/check_nrpe -H 10.x.x.x i get CHECK_NRPE: Error - Could not complete SSL handshake.
[17:24] <ikonia> railsraider: that's not an ubuntu install
[17:24] <ikonia> railsraider: that's something you've made your self
[17:24] <teage> ikonia: sorry for annoying ya, thanks for the help
[17:24] <railsraider> i added the config allowed_hosts=nagiosIP
[17:24] <mcb_> nmvictor: Ikonia is right. I forgotr about upstart.
[17:24] <ikonia> railsraider: nagios does not install in /usr/local/ from the ubuntu repos
[17:25] <nmvictor> ikonia: mcb_ , same output: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[17:25] <nmvictor>  * check syslog for diagnostics.
[17:25] <nmvictor>                                                                                                                  [fail]
[17:25] <Robinux> how do you get the list of daemons running?
[17:25] <railsraider> ikonia you right i comiled it myself
[17:25] <ikonia> nmvictor: what command did you use ?
[17:25] <railsraider> it was working
[17:25] <ikonia> railsraider: ok - so you should be able to support/work out your own software
[17:25] <kyrix> trying to use raven with getsentry. doesnt seem to be sending anything. the docs are a bit conflicting. do you use client = get_client or not? (for example)
[17:25] <nmvictor> ikonia: sudo service is-dhcp-server restart
[17:26] <mcb_> railsraider: You have to configure the NRPE client to accept connection from your Nagios server. See the Allowed_host setting in the NRPE config file.
[17:26] <ikonia> nmvictor: check if that's the right name of the script,
[17:26] <railsraider> fine i'll uninstall and install from the apt-get
[17:26] <Xabster-lap> Am I missing something about the Ubuntu Tweak thingy? What can it do that's so fancy?
[17:27] <nmvictor> ikonia: its the correct name, its under /etc/init.d/,
[17:29] <Fyodorovna> Xabster-lap, it has some shortcuts that are helpful and can also mess your setup if your don't know what your doing.
[17:29] <konr`> Is there a way to launch a very basic version of Xorg with the simplest driver possible
[17:29] <ikonia> nmvictor: /etc/init.d is not the upstart name, it's the legacy init script
[17:29] <nmvictor> ikonia: could their be something wrong with my upstart?
[17:29] <ikonia> nmvictor: doubtful
[17:30] <konr`> (interrogation mark). It's freezing the computer, and I want to know where the problem is. No log is generated :(
[17:31] <Sexy_GirL> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[17:31] <nmvictor> ikonia: inside /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server , their exists a line : NAME=dhcpd, however running service againsrt dhcpd does not work either
[17:31] <Sexy_GirL> what  is this ??
[17:31] <Xabster-lap> what is the command to minimize all windows?
[17:31] <nmvictor> ikonia: I dont know where to look.
[17:31] <ikonia> nmvictor: that is hte INIT !!!! script
[17:31] <Xabster-lap> in Ubuntu 11.10 classic desktop
[17:31] <ikonia> nmvictor: I've said 2 times - that is the legacy init script
[17:31] <ikonia> Sexy_GirL: this is #ubuntu, and Ubuntu technical support IRC channel
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[17:32] <nmvictor> ikonia: so what should I do, am out of optons, why dont you point me to the right direction and i will look.
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[17:33] <ikonia> Sexy_GirL: please don't spam it
[17:33] <Sexy_GirL> ikonia ok
[17:33] <Sexy_GirL> no spam
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[17:33] <ikonia> Sexy_GirL: this is for ubuntu technical chat only - please don't mention your offtopic site again
[17:33] <Sexy_GirL> :)
[17:33] <FloodBot1> Sexy_GirL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <Robinux> how do you get the list of daemons currently running?
[17:34] <mcb_> nmvictor: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/upstart_cookbook.pdf
[17:34] <Sexy_GirL> ikonia  this ircd  is  user linux ?
[17:34] <Sexy_GirL> ?
[17:34] <ikonia> Sexy_GirL: correct
[17:34] <Sexy_GirL> ehh ok
[17:35] <Sexy_GirL> im  join here  for  help  me   a publish my website
[17:35] <Sexy_GirL> but  no  spaming here :S
[17:35] <ikonia> please don't
[17:35] <Sexy_GirL> ok
[17:35] <ikonia> we do not want to hear about your website, clear ?
[17:35] <Sexy_GirL> no no  spaming
[17:37] <nmvictor_> ikonia: About the PXE network booting, my client on the other side has negotiated the server but is stopping with : No PXE-E53 :No boot filename received.
[17:38] <ikonia> nmvictor_: ok, so it's not offering up a pxe image to boot
[17:38] <nmvictor_> ikonia: ok,so what am hav i not done?
[17:39] <ikonia> set a pxe image filename in the dhcp config
[17:39] <ikonia> ooh
[17:39] <nmvictor_> ikonia: I have kubuntu 11.10 remsatered ISO, i would like the client ot boot that ISO.
[17:39] <ikonia> you don't do that
[17:40] <nmvictor_> ikonia: which is the way?
[17:40] <ikonia> you pxeboot a pxeimage then you write pxe options to boot what you want
[17:41] <ghostconn> dose anyone know of a better music player then banshee,rhythmbox,audacious or gnome player
[17:41] <ghostconn> i hate them all lol I want something like winamp/itunes with cover flwo
[17:42] <sgoodall> ghost: quodlibet
[17:44] <Robinux> how do you get the list of daemons currently running?
[17:44] <mcb_> sgoodall: xmms2. I used xmms a long time ago, and dont know haw it evolved but it exist.
[17:44] <sacarlson> nmvictor_: before you try your remaster might want to try a known iso that is known to work with pxe boot
[17:45] <s1cre> ghostconn: Try Songbird
[17:45] <atpa8a> re
[17:45] <atpa8a> what's happening with resolvconf not updating /etc/resolv.conf?.. i added dns- lines to interfaces
[17:45] <atpa8a> any hints?
[17:45] <ghostconn> sgoodall -      dose quodlibet support mp3 & flac .... also I have over 500+gb of music I had numerous problem wtih rhythmbox and banshee not recognizing over 200Gb
[17:45] <s1cre> ghostconn: Crap imao, but there you'll get your overflow, as addon
[17:45] <ghostconn> songbird is garbage been there lol
[17:46] <atpa8a> ready to purge resolveconf
[17:47] <ghostconn> im going to try songbird again unless someone can come up with a better idea?
[17:47] <funnybunny_> looking for help with Zydas WLA-54L usb Wifi card, modules are ON and card is turned on on ifconfig etc. but it doesnt see any networks (rarerly it will catch 1 bacon or sth)
[17:47] <ghostconn> thanks for the help everyone
[17:47] <s1cre> ghostconn: i have a massive collection too, i use banshee via daap, no problem here..
[17:47] <sacarlson> nmvictor: not sure why your having problems with dhcp?  I did note that the restart name has changed for dhcpd.  I do have ubuntu 10.04 iso booting with pxe boot with no problem.  but I did fail to get 10.04 to work in pxe, so if your based on that?
[17:47] <ghostconn> odd? with banshee and rhythmbox it would not recognize over 200Gb
[17:48] <sacarlson> nmvictor: opps 11.04 works in pxe for me not 10.04
[17:48] <nmvictor> ikonia: I am shocked about the required client RAM according to https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/PxeBoot, My client with 1GB ram, is it capable of PXE booting?
[17:49] <sacarlson> nmvictor: I'm pxe booting 11.04 with 512meg system
[17:49] <nmvictor> sacarlson: I am trying out 11.10 but would really appreciate your help.
[17:49] <sacarlson> nmvictor: I've also tested 11.10 and that has worked
[17:49] <nmvictor> sacarlson: so my client fails with: No boot filename received. what doe i do from that point?
[17:50] <xubuntu5> yo
[17:50] <bluefrog> nmvictor, is your dhcp also the tftp server?
[17:50] <mcb_> nmvictor: About the dhcp server. You can look for the initialization script at /etc/init/ Shoud be something like dhcp-server.conf
[17:51] <funnybunny_> looking for help with Zydas WLA-54L usb Wifi card, modules are ON and card is turned on on ifconfig etc. but it doesnt see any networks (rarerly it will catch 1 bacon or sth)
[17:52] <maheanuu> I finally managed to get my notebook up and running again after the crash, but I cannot get it to network and could use some help in setting up the Ethernet and WiFi
[17:52] <nmvictor> bluefrog: no, i have tftpd installed for that.
[17:52] <maheanuu> Oh, I am running 10.04 LTS 64 on a Toshiba Laptop
[17:52] <bluefrog> nmvictor, is the dhcp server and the tftp server on the same machine?
[17:52] <ghostconn> it said that the media library directory you have chosen consists of more then 100,000 songs we recommend you visit our site for further recommendations
[17:53] <ghostconn> that's the message i get everytime with banshee and rhythmbox
[17:56] <ghostconn> wtf.... is there no songbird for ubuntu 11.10?    i have realized that they have removed a whole wack of software from the Ubuntu Software Centre    even google earth is not supported anymore
[17:56] <ghostconn> i dont understand lol
[17:57] <quiT> link for good book about Linux ?  know any ?
[17:58] <funnybunny_> looking for help with Zydas WLA-54L usb Wifi card, modules are ON and card is turned on on ifconfig etc. but it doesnt see any networks (rarerly it will catch 1 bacon or sth)
[17:58] <klync> quiT: there are a few .... for what purpose?
[17:58] <klync> quiT: http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTitle/productCd-0764544977.html
[17:59] <atnms> Songbird removed support for Linux long ago, there is a revival project called Nightingale for Linux http://getnightingale.com
[17:59] <quiT> klync,  something for begining
[17:59] <klync> quiT: beginning what?
[17:59] <quiT> klync,  learning linux
[17:59] <klync> quiT: getting started as an end user? for general purpose use?
[17:59] <quiT> lol
[17:59] <quiT> yes
[17:59] <s1cre> ghostconn: gmusicbrowser would be worth a try, but i doubt it. too large for effective database handling
[18:00] <klync> quiT: http://www.google.ca/search?q=linux+for+beginners
[18:00] <nathan_> Can someone help me with drivers? I'm trying to install the latest Catalyst but it keeps telling me it detects a previous version of fglrx. But I removed the old version. :/
[18:01] <quiT> klync,  tnx
[18:01] <moin> bluefrog: what were you saying, i was disconnected
[18:01] <JulinBM> how remove mensage: waiting network...?
[18:02] <nmvictor>  bluefrog Ooh. tftpd and dhcpd are on the same machine
[18:02] <funnybunny_> looking for help with Zydas WLA-54L usb Wifi card, modules are ON and card is turned on on ifconfig etc. but it doesnt see any networks (rarerly it will catch 1 bacon or sth)
[18:02] <nmvictor> mcb_: Are you able to restart dhcpd from your end?
[18:03] <pwasek> what is a good program to manage iventory and to monitor server health?
[18:04] <TheSimkin> nagios for monitoring server health
[18:04] <TheSimkin> i think it does inventory too
[18:04] <ghostconn> im so upset lol I just switched from mint 12 to ubuntu 11:10 thinking I would be in for a world of a fun new OS... however I have had nothing but problems!!!!!! what did the developers do to ubuntu 11:10 it's like stripped down hardcore , weighted down with bogus software and pointless apps.. really bad compatibility. slow boot up, EXTREMELY slow shutdowns..... it's almost worse then windows now........
[18:04] <ohs> what is the use of the following code "cp -R [DownloadDirectory]/mkspecs/qws/linux-arm-g++/ [DownloadDirectory]/mkspecs/qws/linux-DM3730-g++/"
[18:05] <pwasek> TheSimkin does it monitor hard drive life too
[18:05] <pwasek> on dell servers
[18:05] <atpa8a> why would i get multiple 'Starting OpenSSH Server' followed by 'Stopping OpenSSH Server' during boot?..
[18:05] <pwasek> status
[18:05] <klync> TheSimkin: wouldn't call nagios inventory software, but it's the industry standard for monitoring. pwasek look at omdistro.org
[18:05]  * klync never found a good inventorying solution
[18:06] <mcb_> pwasek: You can use ocs-inventory for inventory and Nagios to monitor.
[18:07] <mcb_> nmvictor:  I use /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart. It works fine with me, but my system is 10.10 or Debian, and they dont use upstart.
[18:07] <mneptok> pwasek: http://puppetlabs.com/
[18:08] <mcb_> nmvictor: But i imagine that you can alway copy an fresh script from a system that is running OK...... Not the best of pratices, but it may be a solution.
[18:09] <guntbert> I am unable to find any documentation about the various menu options in ubuntu-minimal-cd
[18:12] <tuxbin> guntbert: what do you mean by menu options?
[18:12] <tuxbin> guntbert: window options like lxde
[18:13] <tuxbin> guntbert: or menu like during the installation phase?
[18:13] <guntbert> tuxbin: when booting from the minimal CD there is a choice of options - from install ...... to rescue - I wanted to know how they differ without having to try them all by myself
[18:14] <tuxbin> guntbert: got it...one sec
[18:14] <maheanuu> I am trying to go on line with a Toshiba Notebook that I just got back up running, I cannot get network to configure from anywhere on the machine
[18:14] <maheanuu> I am running 10.04 LTS 64 Bit
[18:17] <tuxbin> guntbert: i dont know all optionsbut here are some "install" gives you a wizard like install "install from commandline" gives you no giu and just a text driven wizard
[18:18] <tuxbin> guntbert: also because you have "rescue" as an option i assume you are using the "alternative" installation that has nmore options
[18:18] <blendedbychris> how can i enable remote gui login?
[18:19] <tuxbin> blendedbychris: try X over ssh
[18:20] <blendedbychris> tuxbin: so startx in my terminal?
[18:20] <guntbert> tuxbin: I appreciate your efforts :-)  - but I am preparing a lecture involving the minimal CD - and so I was wondering - for instance the "rescue" takes you through a good part of the regular install (including choosing a mirror) until you get the chance to resue anything
[18:20] <blendedbychris> right now i am just using vnc
[18:20] <tuxbin> blendedbychris: no that will start it locally
[18:21] <tuxbin> blendedbychris: i suggest some research to do X over ssh
[18:21] <tuxbin> blendedbychris: sorry i am not more help
[18:21] <blendedbychris> tuxbin: i'm not on linux though too ..
[18:21] <tuxbin> guntbert: good luck...
[18:21] <blendedbychris> i'm on a mac
[18:22] <blendedbychris> is vnc the only way to go?
[18:22] <guntbert> tuxbin: thx :)
[18:22] <tuxbin> blendedbychris: look into vnc?
[18:22] <oCean> guntbert: not exactly what you are looking for, but you could mount the mini.iso (-o loop) to see what actually happens in the various menuoptions
[18:23] <guntbert> blendedbychris: normally you don't need the complete desktop environment and for single programs you start ssh -X .... and then you invoke that program on the remote host (try it with xeyes  for a start)
[18:24] <blendedbychris> guntbert: i see… these guys i'm building this system for just want to be able to use the desktop
[18:24] <guntbert> oCean: good idea - but it seems somewhat strange that it isn't documented anywhere
[18:24] <noone-one> \list
[18:24] <guntbert> blendedbychris: well, try to educate them :-)
[18:25] <parcs`> will i be able to upgrade from 12.04 beta1 to 12.04 once it's released?
[18:25] <oCean> guntbert: agreed
[18:27] <nullucas> hi, I really don't know where to ask this, who to ask... does anybody know any program that allows you to apply changes to audio files that vary with time? I mean, something like applying a property with graphs or curves, like in blender (but on audio, not video)
[18:27] <atpa8a> hmm
[18:27] <bardh> ls
[18:27] <klync> nullucas: been a while since i looked, but there are lots of tools. freebirth
[18:28] <atpa8a> what's the right way to list aliases in /etc/network/interfaces? right now i use auto eth0:0
[18:28] <Guest21616> hi everybody
[18:29] <Guest21616> i need some help
[18:29] <klync> nullucas: found this for ya: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Audio/ApplicationIntroductions?action=show&redirect=AudioApplicationIntroductions
[18:29] <Guest21616> wireless doesnt work
[18:30] <Guest21616> im a newbie
[18:30] <Fyodorovna> Guest21616, try a real nic easier to tab complete and tell us your problem.
[18:30] <Guest21616> ok
[18:30] <darkad> Fyodorovna: true
[18:30] <darkad> Fyodorovna: true
[18:30] <Guest21616> how can i change that
[18:30] <Fyodorovna> Guest21616, run lspci in the terminal and find the wireless device and post it.
[18:30] <darkad> Fyodorovna: true
[18:31] <diverdude> Why cant i browse my smartcard i have inserted in my lenovo w520 in ubuntu?
[18:31] <Musaab> anyone here know a way to fix not booting with an external monitor attached (to a laptop)
[18:32] <Guest21616> ok, thanks
[18:32] <klync> Musaab: do you mean the problem is not booting, and you want to fix by attaching? or is the problem that it won't boot while the monitor's attached? Or, does it boot, but not recognize the attached monitor?
[18:32] <nmvictor> I am reaaly stuck on PXE network booting and no-one seems willing to help.
[18:32] <ohs>  on the command line, how do you go one directory up? in another word, what command refers cd.. on linux?
[18:32] <wodim> ohs: "cd .."
[18:32] <darkad> ohs: you sure?
[18:32] <Musaab> klync, won't boot while the monitor is attached
[18:33] <ohs> cd,, on msdos, how about on ubuntu?
[18:33] <nmvictor> Or is UBUNTU incapable of network booting/
[18:33] <ohs> cd..
[18:33] <tuxbin> mussab: really? wont boot with a monitor attached?
[18:33] <Musaab> klync, if i plug in the monitor after booting, no prob...just won't boot with the monitor attached
[18:33] <darkad> nmvictor: what
[18:33] <wodim> ohs: "cd ..", with the space
[18:33] <ohs> thank you
[18:33] <klync> Musaab: possibly something in the bios preventing it? does *anything* come on the screen? does the built-in monitor work at all?
[18:33] <darkad> ohs: ok
[18:33] <ohs> wodim thank you
[18:33] <Musaab> yeah it works, it just hangs
[18:34] <tuxbin> mussab: does your monitorhave a USB connector? for additional ports? that might be messing you up
[18:34] <Musaab> tuxbin, just vga
[18:34] <klync> Musaab: we're going to need a much more precise description of the problem before we can help you.
[18:34] <blendedbychris> how do i get vnc server to run at startup so users can login via vnc?
[18:34] <Musaab> klync, can't reboot now, but i'll come back with the error message
[18:34] <tuxbin> mussab: freaking weird
[18:34] <klync> k
[18:34] <Musaab> klync, tuxbin thanks for the help
[18:35] <tiger_lili> hallo
[18:35] <tiger_lili> hello
[18:35] <tiger_lili> i have some problems with wireless
[18:35] <nmvictor> darkad: yea, im almost threatened to think that coz no one who has come up is telling me what the problem is? Or maybe the voices on this channel cant help, i have dealt with this since morning, surely by now someone would have help if real help existed
[18:35] <tiger_lili> im a newbie
[18:36] <tiger_lili> hello
[18:36] <Fyodorovna> tiger_lili, this is a huge channel you need support post it.
[18:36] <diverdude> How do i restart the gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor demon?
[18:37] <Fyodorovna> !pm | tiger_lili
[18:37] <Fyodorovna> tiger_lili, you are now in my ignore list do not pm people without asking.
[18:38] <tiger_lili> now, my problems is ubuntu 11.10
[18:38] <atxq> I am trying to autocomplete on the terminal from past commands used already. how can i do this?
[18:38] <nmvictor> No boot filename specified. Thats where the client trying to PXE boot to my machine is failing, does that ring a bell to anyone here. What is the problem?
[18:38] <tiger_lili> wireless doesnt work , dont know why
[18:38] <nmvictor> No boot filename received.*
[18:38] <darkad> tiger_lili: yes?
[18:39] <ecthiender> atxq, you have the command in your history, so you don't need to auto-complete it
[18:39] <Oer> atxq, arrow up?
[18:39] <tiger_lili> what i have to write on the terminal, please
[18:39] <Xabster-lap> How do I change my DNS-server?
[18:39] <atxq> I know tab completes possible vales that can be used, but I want to autocomplete from the history
[18:39] <mcb_> atxq: CTRL+r
[18:39] <atxq> yeah, but sometimes I have to click up plenty to get to the command
[18:39] <diverdude> How do i restart the gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor demon?
[18:39] <ecthiender> atxq, thats called reverse search
[18:40] <oCean> nmvictor: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer on how to setup the PXE server
[18:40] <tiger_lili> lpsc and what
[18:40] <atxq> CRTL+r for reverse search?
[18:40] <oCean> nmvictor: you need to specify filename in your dhcp server
[18:40] <ghostconn> anyone know of a way to add a coverflow to gmusicbrowser
[18:40] <darkad> atxq: ok
[18:40] <ghostconn> please help
[18:41] <Xabster-lap> How do I change the DNS-server that my wireless uses?
[18:42] <atxq> thanks guys, CRTL+r works great
[18:43] <ghostconn> anyone have experience with gmusicbrowser
[18:43] <diverdude> How do i restart the gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor demon?
[18:43] <darkad> diverdude: not sure
[18:44] <diverdude> darkad: i tried sudo /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor to no avail
[18:45] <nmvictor> oCean: I had already specified the file name as :  filename "pxelinux.0";
[18:45] <ghostconn> anyone know of a way to add a coverflow to gmusicbrowser
[18:45] <nmvictor> oCean: somewhere within the subnet block
[18:45] <L3top> !info ntp
[18:45] <darkad> L3top: nope
[18:46] <L3top> Sorry... I was just seeing what that was.
[18:46] <diverdude> anyone?
[18:46] <oCean> nmvictor: dhcp is timing out? You don't receive an ip address?
[18:47] <L3top> diverdude: see if it is in init.d
[18:47] <darkad> oCean: are you sure?
[18:47] <L3top> /etc/init.d
[18:47] <oCean> darkad: what?
[18:48] <diverdude> L3top: tried
[18:48] <diverdude> L3top: its not there
[18:49] <nmvictor> oCean: Ok the client isnt saying anything about IP address, the progress dots just stop and then the No boot filename ... message kicks in, so yes, i doubt i am reciving the IP on the client.
[18:49] <L3top> !info gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
[18:49] <L3top> one second
[18:50] <atpa8a> hmm
[18:50] <tiger_lili> hello, i have wireless problems
[18:50] <diverdude> wauw this seems to be really hard problem. i wonder if its possible to do it. nobody seem to know
[18:50] <tiger_lili> i need some help pls
[18:50] <atpa8a> what are the consequences for using allow-hotplug for network aliases?
[18:50] <dtcrshr> !ask tiger_lili
[18:50] <dtcrshr> !ask
[18:50] <tiger_lili> ubuntu 11.10 my wireless doesnt work, im a newbie
[18:50] <L3top> diverdude: try this dpkg -L gvfs | grep volume
[18:50] <oCean> tiger_lili: just describe your issue (detailed!) in single line here in the channel
[18:50] <darkad> L3top: not sure
[18:50] <tiger_lili> my terminal is open so order me to tipe :D
[18:51] <darkad> tiger_lili: lol idk
[18:51] <L3top> is darkad a bot?
[18:51] <oCean> nmvictor: well, when PXE booting, I used to see the client trying to obtain IP before actually booting
[18:51] <diverdude> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor  /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so   /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors   /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/gdu.monitor
[18:51] <darkad> oCean: not sure
[18:51] <tiger_lili> what  can i type on my terminal
[18:51] <diverdude> L3top: ^
[18:51] <darkad> diverdude: ok
[18:52] <oCean> darkad: I really have no idea what you are talking about
[18:52] <tiger_lili> hey people my problem is not funny, pls help
[18:52] <L3top> I would go with that last one
[18:52] <L3top>  /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/gdu.monitor
[18:52] <diverdude> hmm
[18:52] <diverdude> L3top: try and execute that one?
[18:52] <nmvictor> oCean: so, mine seems to be timing ot before obtaining an IP. Do i need to change any setting anywhere?
[18:52] <L3top> I would ls -l it... but yeah... looks like what you are looking for
[18:52] <tiger_lili> hello, pls my wireless is doesnt work
[18:53] <darkad> L3top: no
[18:53] <tiger_lili> it recognized nothing
[18:53] <diverdude> L3top: sudo: /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/gdu.monitor: command not found
[18:53] <L3top> the .so is part of the source
[18:53] <diverdude> L3top: ?
[18:53] <sammmy> Why would a `initctl list` show an instance as stop/waiting?
[18:54] <tiger_lili> somebody speak german here?
[18:54] <diverdude> L3top: its not en executable
[18:54] <tiger_lili> my wireless pls
[18:54] <nmvictor> oCean: Could it be coz tftpd-hpa is currently expecting an IPV6 addresss?
[18:54] <darkad> tiger_lili: nope
[18:55] <tiger_lili> darkad do u kow about wireless problems
[18:55] <oCean> nmvictor: probably, I haven't used PXE in a while
[18:55] <tiger_lili> on ubuntu
[18:55] <tiger_lili> 11.10
[18:55] <tiger_lili> im using the internet just by cable
[18:55] <L3top> I am pretty sure darkad is a bot. tiger_lili you were asked to give more detail on your problem
[18:55] <atpa8a> is there a difference between listing multiple interfaces on one auto line or having multiple auto lines?
[18:56] <nmvictor> Anyone used PXE with 11.10, I am really stuck and i need your help.
[18:56] <tiger_lili> what is a bot
[18:56] <oCean> darkad: please see my pm
[18:56] <L3top> I dunno diverdude. look at the output of dpkg -S gvfs
[18:56] <tuxbin> tiger_lili: a bot is short for "robot" where the "person" on the other end is not a person but program
[18:56] <tiger_lili> i have installed ubuntu 11.10
[18:56] <Fyodorovna> nmvictor, if you're registered you might try ##linux
[18:56] <tiger_lili> o my god
[18:57] <ugo> Ciao a tutti
[18:57] <tiger_lili> a bot! hell5
[18:57] <tiger_lili> ciao
[18:57] <darkad> tiger_lili: i don't know
[18:57] <tuxbin> tiger_lili: what hardware do you have, have you tried installing the drivers?
[18:57] <ugo> ciao
[18:57] <ugo> !lista
[18:57] <tiger_lili> pls is better when u tell me
[18:57] <tiger_lili> what i have to write
[18:57] <tiger_lili> on the terminal
[18:57] <tiger_lili> so can do copy past
[18:58] <L3top> you have not described your problem yet... what doesn't work?
[18:58] <diverdude> L3top: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/762107937
[18:58] <tiger_lili> ubuntu 11.10
[18:58] <_Marcus> tiger_lili: What is your problem, extacly? We know what Ubuntu you are running, and that you are having problems, but with WHAT?
[18:58] <L3top> does it not light up, does it try to connect but fail... is there nothing to connect to... does it come on and then die
[18:58] <darkad> _Marcus: true
[18:58] <tiger_lili> wiht my wireless
[18:58] <tiger_lili> wirells doesnt work
[18:59] <L3top> WHAT PART
[18:59] <Musaab> crtc_helper_load_config error
[18:59] <_Marcus> tiger_lili: If you aren't going to tell us more information about your problem, don't ask for help.
[18:59] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn an mpg dvd with growisofs. i put my dvd in my dvd player, and it skips. what should i do? i tried dvd-r and dvd+r dvds as well as trying to burn at a slower speed. same skipping problem. any suggestions?
[18:59] <Musaab> when trying to boot with monitor attached to laptop
[18:59] <diverdude> L3top: any idea how i restart that process?
[18:59] <tiger_lili> nothing, pls tell me the commands i have to write on the terminal to find out what worng
[18:59] <L3top> lspci | irele
[18:59] <tiger_lili> thanks
[18:59] <L3top> lspci | grep irele
[18:59] <L3top> sorry
[19:00] <tiger_lili> dont worry
[19:00] <_Marcus> tiger_lili: Can you not connect to wireless?
[19:00] <tiger_lili> my pc
[19:00] <tiger_lili> intel
[19:00] <L3top> lspci | grep irele
[19:01] <diverdude> L3top:  ?
[19:01] <L3top> talking to tiger_lili
[19:01] <tiger_lili> nothing works
[19:01] <tiger_lili> my  i put all the text here?
[19:01] <tiger_lili> my i?
[19:01] <oCean> tiger_lili: no
[19:01] <_Marcus> tiger_lili: Pastebin it
[19:01] <oCean> !paste | tiger_lili
[19:01] <darkad> _Marcus: not sure
[19:01] <tiger_lili> it is a long text
[19:01] <L3top> You are going to have to follow the output of that paste and find something executable
[19:02] <L3top> @diverdude
[19:02] <diverdude> L3top: i cannot find it
[19:02] <L3top> its just one line tiger_lili
[19:02] <L3top> dpkg -S gvfs
[19:02] <tiger_lili> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
[19:02] <tiger_lili> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
[19:02] <tiger_lili> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[19:02] <tiger_lili> that werent the final part of the long text
[19:03] <auronandace> !bcm | tiger_lili
[19:03] <diverdude> L3top: i already did that command, it did not help
[19:03] <Pici> tiger_lili: Please do not paste text here. Use a pastebin next time.
[19:03] <L3top> I am telling you that you need to follow the output of that command to their sources till you find an executable monitor
[19:03] <tiger_lili> sorry
[19:03] <tiger_lili> what is a pastebin
[19:03] <tiger_lili> :$
[19:03] <_Marcus> tiger_lili: What EXACTLY is the problem? Can you not connect to wireless networks?
[19:03] <tiger_lili> yes
[19:04] <mcb_> tiger_lili: If your wireless card is a broadcom, you have to install asitional driver. go in System -> Administration -> Adicional Drivers. See if theres anything there for you to install.
[19:04] <mopar> hello tigerlili :)
[19:04] <L3top> tiger_lili: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[19:04] <diverdude> tiger_lili: nono its not pastebin. its pastrybin!!!
[19:04] <L3top> oh... sorry mcb_. She asked for terminal
[19:04] <mopar> wow they all come crawling out of the woodworks there
[19:04] <mopar> what a shock that was
[19:04] <mcb_>  L3top: Sorry. Havent seeing this part.....
[19:05] <_Marcus> driverdude: I don't think that joke will help him at all, seeing how he doesn't know what a pastebin is. He may now think it's pastrybin and say "Should I pastrybin this?"
[19:05] <Kanerix> Does this channel also help with KDE stuffs?
[19:05] <mopar> so much for the car talk
[19:05] <_Marcus> Kanerix: I've seen people get help with it here before
[19:05] <Pici> Kanerix: Sometimes, although you might find #kubuntu more helpful.
[19:05] <oCean> Kanerix: if possible yes, but there is also specific #kubuntu channel
[19:05] <_Marcus> !offtopic | mopar
[19:05] <oCean> mopar: what are you talking about, do you have an actual support question?
[19:05] <Kanerix> alrighty, I'll check there first
[19:06] <_Marcus> Offtopic Tuesday >.>
[19:06] <A-Lusion> does anyone know richard stallman
[19:06] <_Marcus> !offtopic | A-Lusion
[19:06] <oCean> A-Lusion: stop the offtopic please, chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:06] <A-Lusion> jeez okay lol it was relative to some extent
[19:07] <_Marcus> A-Lusion: No, it's not. It's not related to an Ubuntu support question at all.
[19:07] <oCean> _Marcus: let's move on, ok?
[19:07] <mcb_>  A-Lusion: It was not a support question. So offtopic.
[19:07] <nujabes> how can i make a custom ubuntu before install. maybe something like suseStudio but for ubuntu?
[19:07] <Guinness2702> iptables question:  I want to intercept packets originating locally, going to port 80, and redirecting them to squid.  I have "-A PREROUTING -i lo -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination (squid address)" - this doesn't seem to work, as no packets go to 'lo'  Where have I gone wrong/How do I fix?
[19:07] <ak_roostum> ...
[19:07] <_Marcus> nujabes: You could use the minimal installation, and then add whatever you want.
[19:07] <auronandace> !remaster | nujabes
[19:08] <Guinness2702> s/to/from
[19:08] <mcb_> Guinness2702: Use REDIRECT. See iptables man for specifics.
[19:08] <Fyodorovna> nujabes, there is a ubuntu builder available now as well
[19:08] <Guinness2702> mcb_, I though that's what --to-destination did :\ - I'll check it out anyway, thanks
[19:08] <blendedbychris> okay i'm going to bug you guys again…. is there not some tutorial on how to setup x11vnc to work like a daemon?
[19:08] <Black-Ops> nujabes you can try UCK, its easy
[19:08] <oCean> mcb_: please don't just refer to manual pages
[19:09] <ghostconn> any good eye candy for 11.10?
[19:09] <mcb_> oCean:  Sorry for that.
[19:09] <nujabes> Fyodorovna, really?! what it called?
[19:09] <pokoko222> can I ask question about gdb for debugging?
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> !eyecandy| ghostconn
[19:10] <K0HAX> pokoko222, you mean two questions?
[19:10] <nujabes> Black-Ops, isn't that for language packages?
[19:11] <pokoko222> KOHAX well I get the error No symbol table is loaded.  Use the "file" command.
[19:11] <ghostconn> much respect
[19:11] <zykotick9> blendedbychris: have you seen the "Accessing your PC over the Internet" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[19:12] <Black-Ops> nujabes, ya you can select that too, but you can customize Ubuntu, with all the software and every thing
[19:12] <Guinness2702> mcb_  What interface do I use as the source?  They don't appear to come in via 'lo'  just straight out on eth2 without, it appears, passing that rule
[19:12] <zykotick9> blendedbychris: oh sorry, doesn't really help with you daemon request.  sorry.
[19:13] <sammmy> Why wouldn't my upstart script not be running (stop/waiting)?
[19:13] <nujabes> Black-Ops, haha okay i've had installed for awhile but did know i could do anything really with it
[19:13] <blendedbychris> zykotick9: yea i find it odd there isn't some sort of easy way to make this owrk
[19:14] <blendedbychris> rdp does it in like 1 click
[19:14] <sacarlson> Guinness2702:  looks like that line might work,  maybe simplify it and see what happens.  if --to-destination is lo or 127.0.0.1 I'm not sure that will work.  my simple example $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp  -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.2.250
[19:14] <Black-Ops> nujabes. ha ha, i use it more often, for making customized ubuntu
[19:15] <mcb_> Guinness2702: lo is just the loopback interface. You use the interface for your LAN.
[19:15] <xee> Hi, I have a problem with Ubuntu 11.10 that whenever I record from the mic I get significantly high noise, my voice can be heard but the noise is high and when I reboot into window the noise is not there.
[19:16] <Guinness2702> mcb_ which one?  The packets are generated locally
[19:16] <nujabes> Black-Ops, aww no way. I've been look for something just like this and had no idea i had it. which language pack is english?
[19:16] <SoulRaven> anybody knows any resource explorer for dll and exe files that has been compiled in .net platform??
[19:16] <SoulRaven> i want to see some dialog windows inside of this files
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> SoulRaven  sounds Windows to me, try ##windows
[19:17] <nujabes> Black-Ops, which language pack is english?
[19:17] <xee> SoulRaven: I think resource hacker will work under WINE if you want to do that in linux
[19:17] <MangoBoy> Hi i have some problem with getting sound out of my soundcard. It started suddenly and works fine in windows. Is there a good troubleshooting guide somewhere known?
[19:17] <nibbler_> Guinness2702, why not use -o eth0 instead of -i lo?
[19:17] <Black-Ops> nujabes i didint get you
[19:17] <justdave> I'm on 10.10 attempting to upgrade it to 11.04 (and eventually 11.10), and it seems to have misdetected my monitor and is only offering me 480x320 as a resolution choice, which is too small to see the upgrade window and I can't click on the buttons because they're off-screen.  how do I force the resolution higher?
[19:17] <Guinness2702> sacarlson, the from destination are local - i.e. I'm running a browser on my desktop, and also squid on the desktop.  I want all packets that any process tries to send to port 80 to go via squid
[19:18] <Guinness2702> nibbler_, wouldn't that then mess up squid's outgoing, legitimate requests on port 80?
[19:18] <Black-Ops> is it en? :p
[19:18] <Guinness2702> nibbler_, also, come to think of it, does -o work with PREROUTING?
[19:19] <nibbler_> Guinness2702, -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -d ! $SQUID
[19:19] <nibbler_> Guinness2702, no clue about prerouting, hardly ever used it
[19:19] <nibbler_> Guinness2702, but oyu might be right
[19:20] <Guinness2702> nibbler_, I might get away with it, as I use a proxy, so nothing should go out from squid directly to 80 lol :)
[19:21] <nate_h> nate_h
[19:22] <ghostconn> how do I change my splash screen to this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/USplash+Theme+Fingerprint?content=93826
[19:22] <ghostconn> im running ubuntu 11:10
[19:22] <ghostconn> how do I change my splash screen to this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/USplash+Theme+Fingerprint?content=93826
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> ghostconn  you could use the 3rd party app ubuntu-tweak, but i'm sure there's an "ubuntu-native" way http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[19:23] <sacarlson> Guinness2702: sometimes I think too much,  I can try 10 posible idea's and maybe find a solution in 5 minits or think about 20 or more posible solutions but try none of them for 2 hours.  some times trial and error beats thinking
[19:24] <nujabes> sacarlson, logic you can't argue with
[19:25] <mcb_> Guinness2702: Can I PM you?
[19:25] <JesseC> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04, but my network card doesn't seem to be recognized. lspci returns the broadcom interface, but dmesg doesn't show anything related to the card at boot.
[19:26] <ohs> can somebody tell me how I can solve the error? http://pastebin.com/t2ag1j3J
[19:26] <nate_h> ohs, kind of looks like it needs zlib
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> ohs  in human language your question is...?
[19:27] <JesseC> I have also ran all updates and upgraded to the latest kernel using apt-offline, because I figured the driver would be in the release, but that didn't help either.
[19:27] <ghostconn> how would I manage to install ubuntu tweak it is no where to be found in the software centre
[19:27] <nate_h> ../../corelib/tools/qbytearray.cpp:54:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[19:27] <nate_h> try installing zlib or zlib-dev
[19:27] <ghostconn> terminal command?
[19:27] <_Marcus> ohs: That seems like something for #qt
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> ghostconn  download and install, i showed where
[19:27] <mcb_> JesseC: Install aditional driver. Go system -> Adminitration -> Aditional drivers. See if you have anything to install.
[19:27] <JesseC> mcb_: it's ubuntu server
[19:27] <JesseC> headless
[19:28] <mcb_> JesseC: : $apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[19:28] <JesseC> can't connect to the internet..
[19:28] <JesseC> but I'll download the deb, sec.
[19:28] <ohs> I am trying to download QT SDK and tool chain for it but I got stuck in the last step.
[19:29] <ohs> nate_h: Do I need to install zlib?
[19:29] <JesseC> mcb_: that also isn't the chipset of the driver I need, does that matter?
[19:29] <sacarlson> ohs: nate_h: ya I concure error: zlib.h: No such file or directory  missing -dev  package maybe for zlib
[19:29] <mcb_> JesseC: In another machine thar connects. $apt-get install -d b43-fwcutter. copy the .deb and $dpkg -i package in the server.
[19:30] <ohs> sacarlson: thanks
[19:30] <mcb_> JesseC: That is the only driver i used with broadcom. I dont know for sure.
[19:30] <JesseC> mcb_: This one is, BCM57781
[19:31] <sammmy> Can someone help me see if this is erroneous: https://gist.github.com/2139339 ?
[19:31] <JesseC> mcb_: doesn't seem to be covered under the BCM43xx list.
[19:31] <sammmy> I try to run my upstart conf file and it says it runs, but then it must of crashed, but there's no logs.
[19:32] <mcb_> JesseC: You can always $apt-cache search broadcom and try to find something more specific for you.
[19:32] <darek__> :)
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| JesseC
[19:33] <JesseC> It's not wireless
[19:33] <JesseC> sorry]
[19:33] <JesseC> This is just a gigabit onboard wired ethernet.
[19:35] <mcb_> JesseC: There the package "bcm5700-source".
[19:36] <JesseC> mcb_: Yes, reading up on it, but I've attempted to compile the driver by hand without success.
[19:37] <nprezident> yesterday i compilied the compat-wireless-2012-03-18 and now my broadcom bcm4312 driver is not being detected i've followed the isntructions at the broadcom driver site to reinstall the driver but no success can someone please let me know what to do ?
[19:38] <doda1> trying to install ubuntu on a pc with an nvidia card, unity is glitchy and unusable
[19:38] <doda1> nice user expirience
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| doda1
[19:40] <tuxbin> doda1: try installing gnome 3.0 it might be nicer
[19:40] <theadmin> doda1: Try XFCE, it feels like gnome2
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> tuxbin  unity is gnome3 with compiz
[19:40] <ghostconn> ok i installed ubuntu tweak and have downloaded a splashscreen how do i install it ?
[19:40] <ghostconn> it's a tar.gz file
[19:41] <MangoBoy> I would need some advise in how to enable the wolume on my headfones in alsamixer, they seem disabled but unmuted? the onbord card works well in my old windows copy
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> ghostconn  you need the .deb file
[19:41] <tuxbin> doda1: look at this http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[19:41] <doda1> MonkeyDust: i actually run ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop, i used ubuntu 2d before i installed the drivers etc ...
[19:41] <tuxbin> MonkeyDust: understood but sometimes people dont like it...12.04 should allow more customizations
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> doda1  then there the channel #ubuntu+1 for you
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> there's*
[19:42] <doda1> MonkeyDust: yeah i know :), but my rant is about ubuntu 11.10 being broken for a bunch of users
[19:43] <moin> I cant get dhcp3-server to start, i get the following: Starting ISC DHCP server dhcpd
[19:43] <moin> Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[19:43] <jayrulez> Has ubuntu 2d been removed? I recently did an update that removed Ubuntu2D from my installation.
[19:43] <moin>  * check syslog for diagnostics.
[19:43] <Oer> doda1, what videocard do you use?
[19:43] <tuxbin> doda1: it is really not that big a deal.... i like it
[19:43] <doda1> i mean, when a random tech savy windows user will wanna try ubuntu on a nvidia card ...
[19:43] <doda1> thats a bad moment :)
[19:43] <doda1> 0er onboard nvidia
[19:43] <tuxbin> doda1: quick question....did you install the correct drivers and do the updates?
[19:44] <Oer> doda1, lspci | grep VGA
[19:44] <doda1> tuxbin: yeah yeah, i fixed everything in ubuntu 12.04
[19:44] <JesseC> So frustrated. Has anybody managed to run ubuntu on a newer ASRock x79 Extreme4-M motherboard?
[19:44] <Oer> doda1, so you don't need support?
[19:45] <doda1> but i booted up 11.10 from usb, and i got glitchy unity, which kinda sucks
[19:45] <leiot> doda1, what glitch are you refering to?
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> doda1  "you don't like it", that's different
[19:46] <doda1> No no
[19:46] <ghostconn> not one of the splash screens are in .deb format
[19:46] <Tihikea> I'm having some trouble with X11 forwarding on my 11.04 server to my Windows machine... I'm fairly certainly I have X server running (I did startx and now if I try again it says fatal error, running), I have xming installed and running on the windows machine, and PuTTY is setup to do x11 forwarding but when I try to run a program like, say, xclock, I get "Can't open display: "
[19:46] <leiot> btw if you installed the driver, nvidia makes that thing :p
[19:46] <ghostconn> every one is tar.gz
[19:47] <pearce> hello
[19:47] <doda1> unity is ok, but the default noveau are glitchy, and when i click try ubuntu unity 3d is started which doesn't work, glitches everywhere
[19:47] <Tihikea> Anyone have any ideas? :O
[19:47] <Oer> ghostconn, open the tar.gz and do the readme
[19:48] <leiot> which gpu do you have, doda1?
[19:48] <doda1> i can fix it by booting with nomodeset, that worked in precise daily build, but its just bad user expirience for other folks
[19:48] <Oer> ghostconn, if it is a gtk3 theme, you could drag & drop it in themes.
[19:48] <Cook13> hello guys I got an issue. I want to start a program using ssh on my server. It's a java program. I use the command ssh user1@ip 'bash -s' < /home/user1/workspace/Client_Starter.sh to run a shell script which starts my Java program. But the problem is that it does not disconnect afterwards. It just waits until my java program / the process is ended. So any idea how to disconnect directly afterwards the java program was started?
[19:48] <doda1> leiot: one moment, i need to boot up my desktop
[19:50] <Tihikea> anyway I can confirm that my xserver is running properly?
[19:50] <doda1> NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]
[19:50] <doda1> here is my card
[19:50] <pearce> i'm having difficulty getting ubuntu to recognize my second monitor
[19:51] <ghostconn> Oer    better yet i'll send you a link where i downlaoded it from
[19:51] <ghostconn> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Macbuntu+paw-OSX?content=146805
[19:51] <nvictor> hey all
[19:51] <Cook13> hello guys I got an issue. I want to start a program using ssh on my server. It's a java program. I use the command ssh user1@ip 'bash -s' < /home/user1/workspace/Client_Starter.sh to run a shell script which starts my Java program. But the problem is that it does not disconnect afterwards. It just waits until my java program / the process is ended. So any idea how to disconnect directly afterwards the java program was started?
[19:51] <nvictor> hmm...
[19:52] <Kanerix> Ampersand?
[19:52] <don262> Oh!  lol @ ghostconn  for the link
[19:52] <ghostconn> ?
[19:53] <Oer> ghostconn, ah, { Use the Zorin Splash screen manager for installation and change your default splash screen. }https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Plymouth
[19:53] <don262> yeah  Oer got it right
[19:53] <pearce> when I first plugged it in, it started working immidiately
[19:54] <pearce> however, I unplugged it, and when i plug it in now, I get nothing
[19:54] <Oer> ghostconn, but this guy gives a download, zorin is not in the repo .. so i suggest look in de docu to do it manually
[19:54] <doda1> pearce: what card do you use ?
[19:55] <pearce> nvidia 330m
[19:55] <pearce> aaargh what the hell
[19:55] <pearce> my curser turned into the text icon
[19:55] <pearce> and it wont change
[19:55] <oops72> Heya, am teaching a class right now, we just installed Ubuntu 8.10 (newer versions don't work with our version of vmware). The original 8.10 repositories no longer exist, have they been moved somewhere else, or have they been permanently deleted?
[19:55] <pearce> i can't click anything
[19:55] <ghostconn> lol is there a way to install it from the terminal I'm frimilar with terminal commands
[19:56] <pearce> is there a force quit command?
[19:56] <ghostconn> nvm i found it thanks
[19:56] <pearce> ok nevermind
[19:56] <ghostconn> :)
[19:57] <Tihikea> Anyone know much about X11 forwarding? :O
[19:58] <Guest84691> :-)
[19:58] <ghostconn> ok i installed the splash screen manager however when i start it it asks for my admin password but it loads nothing?
[19:58] <shaneo> hey guys is there a way to get the email notifier in the messages menu to start at login
[19:58] <Tihikea> i've got Xming installed on my windows machine and runing, I connect to the server with putty over ssh and x11 forwarding enabled, but when i run an x window program it just says Cant start display
[19:58] <Bodsda> Hi, what are the implications of removing unity-2d? Apart from obviously not being able to use unity-2d.
[19:58] <lauro> ciao
[19:59] <lauro> i'm italian
[19:59] <shaneo> pretty much starting thunderbird in background upon login
[19:59] <ghostconn> lmao
[19:59] <R4v3|\|> g
[19:59] <lauro> i'm sorry what SO do you using now?
[19:59] <Guinness2702> mcb_ sorry, was away, sure you can pm
[20:01] <Oer> oops72, i hope you can update tru deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy >>> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Repositories
[20:02] <ghostconn> dont give up on me now guys i got so far lol
[20:03] <box> Hello
[20:03] <ghostconn> fuck you all
[20:04] <Kanerix> ...wow
[20:04] <Tihikea> :O
[20:05] <box> I'm looking for PHP IDE's that have support built-in support for FTP (not by kde or gnome). For Windows I used to use PSPad. Recommendations please?
[20:05] <Kanerix> Way to be patient... sheesh... It's not like we're doing anything else in our lives...
[20:05] <Cook13> you are? :D kidding :)
[20:06] <don262> oh that was justice
[20:06]  * don262 higgles the pee out of LjL
[20:07] <Kanerix> Cook13, lol
[20:07] <Kanerix> I'm at work...
[20:08] <DawnDiamond> bf pc with natty
[20:08] <Cook13> Oh rly? Then you are not supposed to hang out on IRC are you Kanerix? :P
[20:08] <DawnDiamond> love it
[20:08] <Kanerix> Actually, it's part of my job
[20:08] <Cook13> What? lol so what do you do Kanerix?
[20:09] <Cook13> When you are not hanging out on irc .... :D
[20:09] <Kanerix> I use IRC to support my company's tech support department
[20:10] <Kanerix> technically I'm in the QA department
[20:10] <Kanerix> It wasn't exactly a stretch to include this to ask questions
[20:11] <Cook13> Hehe I see :) Good to have those people like you :)
[20:12] <DawnDiamond> heh   I gotta remember to tell MY boss that
[20:12] <DawnDiamond> he won't freak out too bad.  I do sorta do IT tech support
[20:12] <DawnDiamond> lost passwords and stuff
[20:13] <JesseC> Is there a daily release with all of the latest updates for ubuntu server?
[20:13] <JesseC> I found the one for the desktop version, just not the server release.
[20:14] <JesseC> Scratch that, found it.
[20:15] <JSeymour> I've actually had my boss looking-on while I've asked a question on IRC.  Everybody here knows I've a window open into several channels all day long :)
[20:15] <Glacee> precise
[20:17] <Kanerix> JSeymour, same
[20:19] <pjs> hey all.. quick question.. where are iptables stored by default in Ubuntu 11.10? (this is a rackspace managed instance, if that matters.)
[20:19] <pjs> iptables rules*
[20:20] <JSeymour> I didn't know they were stored *anywhere* by default
[20:21] <beandog> yah, they have to be loaded from somewhere
[20:21] <beandog> can't remember where, though
[20:21] <Glacee> ubuntu precise question
[20:21] <beandog> pjs: if you're using ufw, they'll be in /etc/ufw I think
[20:22] <Pici> Glacee : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[20:22] <pjs> beandog, yea looks like there is some default rules that I assume rackspace added as part of their image
[20:22] <beandog> pjs: yah I've got a rackspace one too, I already changed mine though.
[20:22] <pjs> beandog ahh, gotcha.. thx. sorry, BSD guy so my iptables stuff is way on the edge of my memory :)
[20:23] <beandog> pjs: I just ditched theirs and used my custom ones anyway.
[20:23] <aibo> hi, how to store 'route add default gw 192.168.0.1' in my '/etc/network/interfaces' what's format?
[20:24] <pjs> beandog, well all i need to do is allow port 80, so I'll stick with this for now. To lazy to save the rules, load them at startup, etc. :)
[20:24] <llutz> aibo: gateway 192.168.0.1
[20:24] <beandog> pjs: if you use ufw, it'll save it for you
[20:24] <beandog> pjs: sec
[20:24] <llutz> aibo: "man 5 interfaces"
[20:24] <aibo> thx
[20:24] <beandog> pjs: ufw allow proto tcp to any port 80; ufw enable
[20:24] <beandog> and done
[20:25] <beandog> pjs: oh, if you want ssh, don't forget port 22: ufw allow proto tcp to any port 22
[20:25] <pjs> beandog oh beautiful.. thanks man
[20:25] <beandog> don't lock yourself out
[20:25] <pjs> beandog, yea.. ssh was already added via rackspace I suppose
[20:25] <beandog> pjs: well ufw will drop everything by default, so yah, better add that.
[20:25] <beandog> well, maybe not *everything* ... but it'd drop ssh
[20:25] <pjs> beandog, let me make sure..
[20:25] <beandog> You can always get back in through rackspaces' web admin anyway, but that's a pain.
[20:26] <pjs> beandog, yea it's good.. thanks man.. so ufw will auto save this and upon reboot port 80 will be good to go?
[20:26] <beandog> pjs: yah, ufw enable will do all the magic for you
[20:27] <beandog> pjs: if you want a copy of rackspace's defaults, just for the record, you can do iptables-save
[20:27] <pjs> beandog, awesome man.. thanks for the ufw help. first I'm seeing this
[20:27] <beandog> that doesn't actually *save* anything, it just prints out the current ruleset that you could run
[20:27] <jaha> basic linux question: How do I set a variable from a bash script for that user or current session so that other process can access it?
[20:27] <beandog> pjs: yah, like I said, don't forget 22
[20:28] <beandog> jaha: export
[20:28] <beandog> export FOO=bar
[20:28] <beandog> echo $FOO
[20:28] <jaha> does that work within the context of BOTH processes?
[20:28] <beandog> jaha: both processes?
[20:28] <beandog> it'll only work in the current session you're in
[20:28] <pjs> beandog: yup. got 22.. thanks my man!
[20:28] <beandog> pjs: have fun
[20:29] <beandog> you can use unset to remove the variable, too.  unset FOO; echo $FOO
[20:29] <jaha> sorry maybe my lingo is wrong, lets say i want to set a variable with 1 bash script, and read that variable with another script
[20:29] <beandog> jaha: ah, good question.  I dunno, tbh.
[20:29] <beandog> jaha: you're usually better off passing variables as arguments, though
[20:30] <beandog> bash foo.sh 1 2 3
[20:30] <beandog> etc.
[20:30] <jaha> i understand export within the context of a single script, but normally I would write out the results to a file and read it in on the other, trying to get around that if possible
[20:30] <beandog> instead of FOO=foo bash foo.sh
[20:30] <beandog> jaha: yah, don't write to a file.  You could pipe it
[20:30] <beandog> well you *could* write to a file.
[20:30] <beandog> it's your script :)
[20:33] <jaha> beandog:  the scripts are independant of eachother,  one script setting foo=bar, and another script at will checking what the value of foo is...
[20:34] <beandog> jaha: okay.  Well, most shell commands / scripts will look for arguments, not variables
[20:34] <beandog> foo --bar=baz
[20:34] <beandog> etc.
[20:34] <beandog> jaha: custom scripts of yours?
[20:34] <jaha> yes
[20:34] <beandog> jaha: just out of curiosity, are you trying to split separate functions into two shell scripts?
[20:35] <beandog> like, both scripts are just executing one function
[20:36] <beandog> I ask because bash scripts can actually run functions
[20:36] <beandog> er
[20:36] <beandog> you can write functions inside them
[20:36] <beandog> makes things easy.
[20:36] <FloodBot1> beandog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <beandog> meh.
[20:36] <shaneo> hey guys when patching the kernel where is the file i patch
[20:36] <Kanerix_ircII> crap
[20:37] <jaha> beandog: I think I just thought of a better way to do it, but thanks
[20:37] <beandog> jaha: good luck
[20:41] <nujabes> GNU C Library (glibc) 2.7 or later come on ubuntu?
[20:43] <erinaceus> vlt: Hey, remember me, I asked a couple days ago about a broken hdd?
[20:43] <TheEmpath> hi.. everywhere I go says nohup whatever & will keep a process running even after I exit the shell... of course, that's complete bullshit
[20:43] <beandog> TheEmpath: use screen or tmux and detach the session
[20:44] <TheEmpath> From my client, I run ssh -t user@host.com '/home/user/runTheNoHupScript.sh'... on the server, /home/user/runTheNoHupScript.sh is 'nohup whatever &'
[20:44] <TheEmpath> of course, if I log in as user and then type /home/user/runTheNoHupScript.sh, it works just fine
[20:45] <TheEmpath> but if i execute the command via ssh connection, the process doesn't remain active
[20:45] <beandog> Hmm
[20:45] <beandog> I don't think running nohup inside a script is going to do it
[20:45] <TheEmpath> something special occurs when executing a command from the ssh CLI
[20:45] <beandog> would probably work if you just did that directly
[20:45] <TheEmpath> and, in the field of computers, we should hate special
[20:45] <beandog> as an SSH command
[20:46] <zmo1283asdasd> hi i want to install a printer/scanner on ubuntu and the add + button in that windows is disabled
[20:46] <prellele> Good evening, after installing ubuntu desktop again I get a 'error: no such device xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx'
[20:46] <zmo1283asdasd> how can i do that now?
[20:46] <prellele> i think its grub
[20:47] <ratcheer> prellele: Can you run "sudo blkid" or blkid as root?
[20:47] <oops72> Oer: thanks it worked quite well!
[20:48] <prellele> ratcheer, i've / nothing match's
[20:48] <Escherial> so, is it pretty impossible to boot an existing windows partition into a vm?
[20:49] <delusive> I am trying to install AMD Catalyst 12.2 drivers in Ubuntu/oneiric, having some real headaches.  I have a RADEON HD 6870, i have tried all different installation, automatic, manual etc, i have fully removed fglrx drivers, after installing the package, i can't find the aticonfig command, is this required?  ANyone have any experience getting this working on a similar config?
[20:49] <Escherial> whether or not that's possible, what would you all suggest for running a guest operating system like windows under ubuntu?
[20:49] <beandog> Escherial: virtualbox is nice and simple
[20:49] <mcb_> prellele: Grub can not find your boot device. Do grub-install from a live CD. But be sure in what device you are installing it, if it is a dual-boot machine....
[20:50] <Oer> oops72, have fun
[20:50] <Escherial> beandog: sounds good; i'll take a look, thanks :)
[20:50] <sammmy> How do I get my upstart script to restart if there's an error?
[20:50] <beandog> sammmy: what do you mean
[20:51] <beandog> sammmy: you mean if the daemon failed to exit successfully?
[20:51] <beandog> i.e., didn't start
[20:51] <sammmy> beandog: when an upstart process crashes, how do I get it to start automatically
[20:51] <cwood> Question about service ordering: how can I get my dhcp ip/hostname acquisition to happen before the daemons start?
[20:51] <beandog> sammmy: ah, that.
[20:51] <beandog> sammmy: you can install something like monit to monitor services if they crash.
[20:51] <beandog> sammmy: I'm actually poking at mine right now if you want some help setting it up.  What service are you talking about, first of all?
[20:53] <sammmy> I'm guessing the respawn stanza wouldn't be what I'm looking for then?
[20:53] <sammmy> beandog: I'm running custom node.js processes
[20:54] <beandog> sammmy: ok, probably can't help you then
[20:54] <beandog> :T
[20:54] <sammmy> beandog: err.
[20:54] <sammmy> well
[20:54] <beandog> sammmy: how are you starting t hem
[20:54] <sammmy> What's the latest upstart version?
[20:54] <sammmy> beandog: exec node /path/to/my/app.js in my upstart
[20:55] <beandog> sammmy: does it create a pidfile, do you know?
[20:55] <beandog> or can it
[20:55] <sammmy> beandog: what is a pidfile?
[20:55] <beandog> sammmy: it's a file that has the process ID of the running application
[20:56] <beandog> fex, pidof sshd
[20:56] <beandog> er
[20:56] <sammmy> beandog: I wouldn't know
[20:56] <sammmy> is there a way if I can tell?
[20:56] <beandog> sammmy: probably not then
[20:56] <cwood> You can tell by grepping /var/run for the pid of your daemon.
[20:57] <cwood> (recursively grepping)
[20:57] <sammmy> I can see the processes in ps -AF
[20:57] <TheEmpath> apparently... the trick is to sleep 1 after you nohup
[20:57] <TheEmpath> then the process will persist
[20:57]  * TheEmpath sighs.
[20:57] <TheEmpath> feels like a dirty hack
[20:57] <sammmy> cwood: how do I grep a directory?
[20:58] <cwood> sammy: you can read "man grep" for more, but roughly: grep -r 1234 /var/run
[20:58] <R33p3r> an
[20:58] <cwood> TheEmpath: start it as a daemon from an init script or upstart job,t hen?
[20:59] <ratcheer> prellele: Is the non-existent blkid included in your fstab?
[20:59] <lprelle> ratcheer: Sorry, i think i didnt get your last answer
[21:00] <ratcheer> lprelle: Is the non-existent blkid included in your fstab?
[21:02] <bittin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffg8KJ5yFuE
[21:02] <lprelle> ratcheer: no
[21:02] <veggteppe> Hey there!:) I am trying to convert and dmg file to img file using dmg2img, however i keep getting an error: Inflation failed. Any idea what is going on ?
[21:03] <ratcheer> lprelle: I'm not sure what else might be using it to give the error.
[21:04] <lprelle> maybe i should mention, that a have 2 harddrives. on one there is a windows installation and on the other one there is ubuntu
[21:04] <erinaceus> veggteppe: Maybe check if it has log somewhere or a verbose option?
[21:05] <veggteppe> erinaceus, It does indeed have a  verbose option. You want me to pastebin the output?
[21:05] <PRINCESS_FLUFF> how can I open a terminal with the path set to whatever directory im looking at ?
[21:05] <erinaceus> veggteppe: Do that, altough I'm not expert im at least willing to take a shot at it
[21:05] <ratcheer> lprelle: I tried that a long time ago. It didn't work well, at all. Kept screwing up booting of either system.
[21:05] <veggteppe> erinaceus, http://pastebin.com/SmkZ4p4Z - Any help is appreciated:)
[21:05] <cwood> PRINCESS_FLUFF: That depends entirely on your desktop. (That said I do not know, as I use openbox and no graphical shell.)
[21:06] <PRINCESS_FLUFF> I dont know, I installed Ubuntu without changing any options
[21:06] <lprelle> ratcheer: bevor reinstalling ubuntu, everything worked well
[21:06] <PRINCESS_FLUFF> The latest version
[21:06] <cwood> PRINCESS_FLUFF: Mostly I use an xterm for directory navigation and viewing. I use "cd" to change to whatever directory I want to be in.
[21:07] <ratcheer> lprelle: I understand, but I do not know what the problem is.
[21:07] <cwood> I'm not really up on this snazzy new-age gui stuff.
[21:07] <veggteppe> erinaceus, http://pastebin.com/na9yMB2s there is the debug log
[21:07] <erinaceus> veggteppe: What exact command are you using?
[21:07] <veggteppe> erinaceus, dmg2img <name of file> <name of output>
[21:07] <veggteppe> without <> ofcourse..
[21:07] <Shojo> PRINCESS_FLUFF: type in terminal "cd  and your path"
[21:08] <veggteppe> erinaceus, Tried sudoing the son of a b***, incase it was a permissions error. No luck :P
[21:08] <lprelle> ratcheer: is it possible that grub got problem cause i updated my last ubuntu installation from 10.04 to 12.10 and the current installation is 10.04 again?
[21:09] <mobiusstripper> hi, so I want to enable Chinese and Japanese interface for other user of the system. In the "Language Support" setting,,
[21:09] <erinaceus> veggteppe: try dmg2img -s -i input.file -o output.file
[21:09] <mobiusstripper> after I installed the language support, I moved them between English (US) and English
[21:09] <mobiusstripper> but when I log out and log back-in, the interface became Chinese.
[21:10] <mobiusstripper> Shouldn't English (US) still takes highest pririty?
[21:10] <veggteppe> erinaceus, Tried that now, still having an inflation error
[21:10] <cwood> mobiusstripper: Sounds like your system is set to one locale.
[21:10] <cwood> And your system's default locale is different from your own.
[21:10] <mobiusstripper> cwood, when I typed locale in shell, I get LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[21:11] <erinaceus> veggteppe: Broken dmg is out of question i guess?
[21:11] <mobiusstripper> so I am not sure why the interface is in Chinese..
[21:11] <veggteppe> erinaceus, Indeed, tried several different ones, hoping everyones not corrupted. lol ^;
[21:11] <cwood> Do you have a bunch of LC_* environment variables? Maybe they're in your shell config scripts but not your xorg session configs (like your .xsession or whatever Ubuntu uses).
[21:11] <veggteppe> erinaceus, is there any way to burn a bootable .dmg "out of the box" of a program on linux ?
[21:12] <erinaceus> veggteppe: Sorry, thats out of my league. But im guessing you are trying to write the dmg on a disk?
[21:12] <veggteppe> erinaceus, Aye, attempting to write the dmg on a disk indeed
[21:13] <veggteppe> erinaceus, Gonna try to run it straight out of brasero, and see where that gets me with a hardboot on the mac
[21:13] <beandog> sammmy: was afk, any luck?
[21:13] <mobiusstripper> cwood, all the LC_ are en_US.UTF-8
[21:13] <mobiusstripper> cwood, with quotation mark, I belive because their values are inherited from LANG
[21:14] <mobiusstripper> cwood, there is also this: LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:zh_HK:zh_TW:zh_CN:ja:en
[21:14] <cwood> mobiusstripper: That's in a terminal, though.
[21:14] <mobiusstripper> cwood, how would I checked my LC* if not in the terminal?
[21:14] <sammmy> beandog: w/e I don't care
[21:14] <cwood> Not really sure how locales work, but it seems that of the available locales your shell chooses en_us and your DE chooses zh.
[21:15] <beandog> sammmy: no luck?
[21:15] <cwood> Unfortunately this is about as much help as I can be with locales, sorry.
[21:15] <sammmy> beandog: I'm on break now, but no
[21:15] <erinaceus> veggteppe: Good luck, i'll see if i can find something usefull
[21:15] <beandog> :T
[21:16] <beandog> sammmy: does it crash?  is that what's happening?
[21:16] <VILCHES> o9la ay alguiennnnnnnnnnn
[21:17] <beandog> si
[21:17] <VILCHES> de donde eres??
[21:17] <sammmy> beandog: it only does when my app crashes, but I'll just manually restart it when it does
[21:18] <guntbert> !es | VILCHES
[21:18] <VILCHES> ola
[21:18] <beandog> guntbert: that's a nice command
[21:18] <VILCHES> hi
[21:19] <VILCHES> my name is vilches
[21:19] <VILCHES> jaja
[21:19] <guntbert> !askthebot > beandog
[21:19] <guntbert> VILCHES: hi,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:19] <beandog> sammmy: hmm
[21:19] <VILCHES> hi
[21:20] <Jebba> If i have a .tar.gz file how do i install it from terminal?
[21:20] <VILCHES> o my good
[21:20] <cwood> Jebba: You can read "man tar" and "man gunzip" for more information.
[21:20] <veggteppe> erinaceus, Looks like brasero is gonna make the dmg a iso for me befor eburning it ;o
[21:20] <VILCHES> bye
[21:20] <VILCHES> adios
[21:21] <guntbert> Jebba: what do you want to install?
[21:21] <Jebba> eclipse
[21:21] <guntbert> !who | Jebba
[21:21] <guntbert> !info eclipse | Jebba
[21:21] <erinaceus> veggteppe: thats nice
[21:22] <beandog> sammmy: oh, well, if you're just running it *manually* then you can run it in a loop
[21:22] <beandog> and just keep it running
[21:22] <beandog> that'd be easy enough
[21:22] <Jebba> i downloaded both the sdk and jee version, it was recommended in a comment in software center do download and install from eclipse.org
[21:22] <guntbert> Jebba: no need to compile it yourself,                 sudo apt-get install eclipse         will be ok
[21:22] <tom95> is there a dbus interface for changing the global volume?
[21:23] <almoxarife> wth is a 'dbus interface'?
[21:23] <guntbert> Jebba: if there are no compelling reasons then keep to the repositories of ubuntu
[21:23] <Jebba> oki thanks for the answers
[21:24] <almoxarife> tom95: how about that nice 'volume' icon ?
[21:24] <tom95> almoxarife: what do you mean?
[21:25] <keithzz>  Hi, I bought a usb/serial adapter based on PL2303X and not PL2303. Now before I apply some of the patches that I found on the net to make PL2303X recognised, I wanted to update my kernel. I found this website http://www.unixmen.com/upgrade-your-kernel-the-safe-way-in-ubuntu-linuxmint/ to teach me to do so..Is this a good procedure? and to what version you advise me to upgrade?
[21:25] <almoxarife> tom95: I mean the 'icon' associated with 'volume' on the panel
[21:26] <tom95> almoxarife: well, it doesn't allow you to set your volume from a program written in vala for example
[21:27] <cwood> Have any of you lot successfully had a daemon start after a dhcp config using upstart or init?
[21:27] <guntbert> keithzz: your question seem a little involved for irc - maybe try the forums and/or askubuntu.com too
[21:27] <guntbert> *seems
[21:27] <almoxarife> tom95: so you are asking 'how do I control volume within a 'vala' created app/script, yes?
[21:37] <TheEmpath> ahhha
[21:37] <TheEmpath> so as it turns out
[21:37] <TheEmpath> the godamned process won't detach with ssh exec
[21:37] <guntbert> !enter | TheEmpath
[21:37] <TheEmpath> sorry
[21:38] <TheEmpath> I've been on this dumb problem for over an hour... https://gist.github.com/7dc93e863c1fe920c782  The & won't detach processes for SSH exec
[21:39] <guntbert> TheEmpath: try to use nohup too
[21:39] <beandog> right.  i wouldn't run it in the shell script
[21:39] <beandog> I'd run it as the SSH command
[21:39] <TheEmpath> guntbert: started with nohup... didn't detach... removed nohup, still won't detach
[21:39] <beandog> ssh -t me@server.com 'nohup /home/me/scripts/postDeploy.sh'
[21:40] <TheEmpath> lemme try
[21:40] <guntbert> TheEmpath: I never tried ssh exec, but usually you need           nohup <command> &
[21:41] <TheEmpath> beandog: wait a minute, that appears to work?
[21:41] <Monotoko> hey guys... every time I login, I get: -NickServ- 27 failed logins since last login.
[21:41] <Monotoko> is this common..?
[21:41] <llew21> Anyone have any knowledge on dmsetup?
[21:42] <guntbert> Monotoko: ask in #freenode please
[21:42] <guntbert> !anyone | llew21
[21:42] <vlt> erinaceus: pong
[21:43] <erinaceus> vlt: ping, so i've managed to create a new partition table with the install routine and started ddrescue, it's been running for about 2 days now. SHould i just give up? He shows me the correct number of paritions in /dev/ but cant access any atm
[21:46] <zmaj> hi... does anybady know how to install old ATI ( RV50 ) under new Ubuntu (12.04) ?
[21:46] <vlt> erinaceus: I need a little more detail to remember everything.
[21:46] <vlt> erinaceus: You messed with grub, right?
[21:46] <erinaceus> vlt: I destroyed my partition table tryning to reinstall grub
[21:46] <beandog> what
[21:46] <beandog> how is that even possible
[21:46] <llew21> OK  I am trying to recover a broken raid array that used a hardware controller. I have attached the 2 hard disks to my ubuntu box and they appear as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb so I have used sudo dmsetup create Foo --table /home/mark/Documents/mytable.txt
[21:46] <llew21>  where the table contains one line:  0 819200 striped 2 32 /dev/hda 0 /dev/hdb 0 .The disks are 400Mb each. when I run this command it returns: Invalid format on line 1 of table
[21:46] <llew21> Command failed. I have checked everything and cant see where Ive gone wrong. Thanks
[21:46] <erinaceus> vlt: Yep, after that all i could see was /dev/sdc , neither gparted nor ddrescue were able to access the hdd
[21:47] <vlt> erinaceus: Ok, you booted from live CD?
[21:47] <erinaceus> vlt: Right
[21:47] <erinaceus> vlt: And there i could access sdc and choose "Create Partition Table"
[21:47] <vlt> erinaceus: I think I suggested making an image first.
[21:48] <vlt> erinaceus: You ran ddrescue for two days now?
[21:48] <erinaceus> vlt: Yep, but that didnt work, ddrescue wasnt able to access the hdd
[21:48] <erinaceus> vlt: Yep
[21:48] <zmaj> hi... does anybady know how to install old ATI ( RV50 ) under new Ubuntu (12.04) ?
[21:48] <erinaceus> vlt: The disk ist about 400GB btw.
[21:48] <vlt> erinaceus: SATA?
[21:48] <erinaceus> vlt: IDE
[21:48] <vlt> erinaceus: Ok, so no hotplug
[21:49] <wawawee> I have my whitelist set to all and pidgin still wont goto the toolbar... is this some kind of joke?
[21:49] <erinaceus> vlt: It is connected via sata, but in IDE mode
[21:49] <Akiva> portable harddrive not auto mounting, and I can't find it in media.
[21:49] <vlt> erinaceus: I think you should stop ddrescue (if still running) and reboot.
[21:49] <beandog> TheEmpath: working?
[21:49] <vlt> erinaceus: Let’s see what your kernel thinks about the disk NOW.
[21:49] <erinaceus> vlt: Hopeing it will recognize the hdd?
[21:49] <JesseC> So, to make newer broadcom network cards work that use the tg3, you have to compile the driver manually, install it, and do a modprobe tg3 after every reboot to make the card work. Does anybody know if there are any other work around for this?
[21:50] <beandog> JesseC: you can have it loaded by default on boot easy enough
[21:50] <beandog> but yah, you'd have to install it manually, and blacklist the other one from loading
[21:50] <goddard> sometimes when i reboot my system my icons on the display bar disappear and they also disappear on my alt-tab interface
[21:51] <TheEmpath> beandog: working...!
[21:51] <sleepybug> hey guys...when i run "sudo make prerequisites" or "make" in a program im trying to compile (a program released by ubuntu) I get the No rule to make target
[21:51] <beandog> rawk
[21:51] <zmaj> hi... does anybody know how to install old ATI ( RV50 ) under new Ubuntu (12.04) ?
[21:52] <goddard> sleepybug: are you in the right directory
[21:52] <sleepybug> I should say, in a folder that is the source code of a program im trying to compile
[21:52] <TheEmpath> beandog: but I wanna know how... if I nohup on the ssh exec script which then launches the actual node server (and then detaches it), does that mean things will still work as I intend them to?
[21:52] <JesseC> sleepybug: make sure there are no spaces in the directory you are in
[21:52] <tbruff13> Can someone help me set Multimedia keys in Kubuntu
[21:52] <TheEmpath> beandog++
[21:52] <sleepybug> goddard: the instructions say just cd into the wubi folder
[21:52] <jesco> is it possible to 'open as admin' in 12.04 nautilus???
[21:52] <JesseC> I had that same issue half an hour ago
[21:52] <TheEmpath> Aww no rep bot :(
[21:52] <sleepybug> JesseC there arent
[21:52] <jesco> is
[21:53] <sleepybug> JesseC do you have any experience with compiling in linux? If so would you mind if I pm'd you?
[21:53] <JesseC> sleepybug: ah well then the other guys probably have better ideas than I do.
[21:53] <beandog> TheEmpath: the only time you should need to run nohup is with the SSH command... you can take it out of the shell script you are executing
[21:53] <jesco> is it possible to 'open as admin' in 12.04 nautilus???
[21:53] <beandog> sleepybug: which program
[21:53] <JesseC> sleepybug: I don't, I just happened to have a similar error message earlier that I randomly fixed on accident.
[21:53] <JesseC> haha
[21:53] <sleepybug> beandog: wubi
[21:53] <TheEmpath> beandog: just need to make sure that if node tosses a life crippling exception that would bring down the server, nohup goes "OH NO YOUS DONT!"
[21:54] <almoxarife> jesco: yes, using the plugins
[21:54] <beandog> sleepybug: wait, whut?  you're trying to build wubi from source?
[21:54] <jesco> almoxarife: which ones... cant find it
[21:54] <sleepybug> beandog: yeah, I edited one of the reference iso files to download a different distro
[21:54] <beandog> TheEmpath: uh, I dunno about that.  It won't prevent the process from dying if something bad happens, but it will run in the background
[21:55] <beandog> sleepybug: oh, dunno then.
[21:55] <TheEmpath> i thought nohup meant nohangup, meaning ignore things like sigterm and the like
[21:56] <beandog> TheEmpath: I'm pretty sure you're right, and good to go
[21:56] <TheEmpath> well no matter, i'll be moving onto forever soon anyways
[21:56] <beandog> :)
[21:56] <TheEmpath> thanks for the help
[21:57] <almoxarife> jesco: nautilus-actions-extra
[21:57] <beandog> TheEmpath: good luck bro
[21:57] <jesco> almoxarife: awesome, thanks
[21:58] <superdave321> Is there a flavour of Ubuntu that doesn't have any automatically installed packages?
[21:59] <erinaceus> vlt: Argh, i was wondering why nothing was happening, but the screen was off -.- But it stops at verifying DMI Pool Data anyhow, i guess he has nothing to boot
[21:59] <nasser> ubuntu 11.10 doesn't detect my iPhone 4S
[21:59] <vlt> erinaceus: Why not booting from CD again?
[21:59] <beandog> superdave321: what do you mean
[21:59] <erinaceus> vlt: Oh i thought u meant trying to boot the hdd, gimme a sec
[22:00] <nasser> hi, ubuntu 11.10 doesn't dettect my iPhone 4S
[22:01] <vlt> erinaceus: No chance ;-)
[22:01] <superdave321> beandog: Like the base ubuntu without the office applications or other non-necessary software...
[22:01] <Rocky_> hello  i just installed windows 8 customer preview and i needed help loading upbuntu ( it not an option now)
[22:01] <kofman> hey guys, I'm struggling getting 'startx' to work on my newly formatted touchsmart tm2 tablet pc, I've managed to install by changing some settings in grub, but sadly the screen goes blank and nothing I've tried has made any difference. Has anyone experienced the same and found a solution on this device? (intel graphics chipset)
[22:01] <beandog> superdave321: oh.  ubuntu server would be pretty slim.  turnkey has a really small base one too
[22:02] <itaylor57> !minimal | superdave321
[22:02] <superdave321> itaylor57: Hey, that's what I'm looking for! Thanks!
[22:03] <Kruge> hi
[22:03] <xibalba> hey
[22:03] <xibalba> anyone here work with sip much?
[22:03] <Zaitzev> Ugh, I installed lubuntu-desktop earlier (and it installed a whole bunch of extra idontknowwhat stuff), and now the login screen is in ugly lubuntu-mode, with typing in the username and password.
[22:03] <Zaitzev> Is it enough to do apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop?
[22:03] <beandog> Rocky_: you wanna look for a howto restore grub howto
[22:03] <beandog> er.  yah.
[22:04] <erinaceus> vlt: YAY!
[22:04] <Escherial> does anyone happen to know of a way to make ubuntu run a command before the machine suspends?
[22:04] <log> Escherial: Yes.
[22:04] <Escherial> er, or more appropriately, does anyone happen to know why my machine freezes if i have a share mounted over sshfs?
[22:04] <mkultra_> what do youwant ran Escherial
[22:04] <erinaceus> vlt: I love computers, u do nothing and they suddenly stop working, u do more nothing and they work again, well im off making a backup for now. ;)
[22:05] <Escherial> mkultra_: fusermount -u /mnt/sshfs/target
[22:05] <vlt> erinaceus: Good luck!
[22:05] <log> Escherial: Add a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/.
[22:05] <Escherial> log: nice, thank you :)
[22:05] <auronandace> erinaceus: i think your definition of nothing is a little off :)
[22:05] <Escherial> does the script run under my user account or under a more privileged one?
[22:06] <erinaceus> auronandace: I know ;)
[22:06] <mkultra_> Escherial, i suggest switching to FTP
[22:06] <log> Escherial: No idea, sorry...
[22:06] <log> Escherial: I'd assume that it's under your user account. But it could be sudo.
[22:10] <kofman> is there a command with iwconfig or similiar to see if a essid exists
[22:10] <mkultra_> yes
[22:10] <kofman> thank you
[22:10] <mkultra_> iwconfig = wifi ifconfig
[22:15] <bittin> http://www.facebook.com/n8werk
[22:16] <Zaitzev> ugh, and now the problem I had yesterday, is back.. doesn't look like there's any fix for it. purple pixelation stuff.. :(
[22:18] <Zaitzev> any ops around? I got a spam complaint :p
[22:20] <tbruff13> Zaitzev, what do you need man
[22:20] <Zaitzev> there's a dumbass spamming on PM when users join.
[22:21] <Zaitzev> when they join this channel, I mean.
[22:21] <tbruff13> Zaitzev, i cannot help that
[22:21] <tbruff13> Zaitzev, i might be able to help you with your other issue
[22:21] <beandog> there's gotta be an ops channel
[22:21] <Zaitzev> tbruff13: yeah? :D
[22:21] <tbruff13> sure
[22:21] <beandog> yah, #ubuntu-ops
[22:21] <Zaitzev> I guess I could shout for the ops, but the command is for "emergencies" :b
[22:22] <tbruff13> beandog, can you help me out over in Kubuntu please
[22:22] <beandog> tbruff13: I'm not familiar with kubuntu.  I'm running xfce myself
[22:22] <tbruff13> Zaitzev, what graphics driver do you have
[22:22] <tbruff13> beandog, okay
[22:22] <Zaitzev> that's a good question.
[22:22] <Zaitzev> I suppose it's the nvidia one, but I think I removed it yesterday..
[22:22] <tbruff13> Zaitzev, here
[22:22] <tbruff13> ill help you
[22:23] <tbruff13> go into a terminal and run lspci
[22:23] <tbruff13> and look for VGA compatible controller
[22:23] <beandog> lspci | grep -i vga
[22:23] <Zaitzev> yes
[22:23] <Zaitzev> i got that
[22:24] <Zaitzev> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)
[22:24] <Zaitzev> if you wanted the info
[22:28] <bittin> http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/409039_10150686791124669_198905659668_11023640_789048710_n.jpg
[22:28] <SilverLion> bittin ^^
[22:29] <Zaitzev> beandog: Did you have any solution or what's up? :)
[22:30] <Doxin> I'm having some issues with proprietary video drivers. the drivers themselves work perfectly fine, except for minecraft. is there any easy way to toggle drivers without a reboot?
[22:30] <beandog> Zaitzev: sorry, what?
[22:30] <beandog> Zaitzev: use nvidia's drivers
[22:30] <Zaitzev> oh wait, sorry. it was tbruff13 who offered I think :)
[22:30] <beandog> Doxin: no
[22:30] <beandog> Doxin: no wait, you could restart X11
[22:31] <beandog> Doxin: that'd still be a pain th ough
[22:31] <Zaitzev> beandog: I had them, the problem occured, now I don't have them, the problem is still occurring.
[22:31] <Doxin> beandog: thought so, nvm then.
[22:32] <Zaitzev> weird thing is, it just disappeared last night when a guy in here said I could try LXDE to see if it helped. It sort of did, but I went back to Unity. The problem disappeared, right up until half an hour ago.
[22:32] <dysoco> Anyone has the link to Ubuntu 12.10 Beta ISO ? I can't find it :S
[22:33] <dysoco> ups
[22:33] <dysoco> sorry, I was searching for 12.10 instead of 12.04... god...
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> dysoco  that's a bit early :p
[22:35] <goddard> sometimes when i reboot my system my icons on the display bar disappear and they also disappear on my alt-tab interface
[22:37] <goddard> ccsm
[22:38] <diverdude> If i use a program called gphoto2 which accepts a parameter --shell that enables a special gphoto-shell environment, can i script for such  a shell enironment using normal bash?
[22:40] <fellayaboy> what program can i use to change my hardwire mac address each and everytime
[22:40] <beandog> fellayaboy: ifconfig might do it
[22:40] <kofman> once I've set up wlan0 with a proper essid and valid key, I'm trying to have an ip issued via dhclient wlan0 but instead I get No DHCPOFFERS received : (
[22:40] <fellayaboy> be specific please
[22:40] <beandog> fellayaboy: oh.  macchanger. derp.
[22:40] <fellayaboy> macchanger huh
[22:40] <kofman> am I missing a step?
[22:40] <fellayaboy> and it will change my mac everytime i start up my machineA?
[22:41] <beandog> fellayaboy: well usually you only change it once.
[22:41] <dysoco> fellayaboy, you can write an script and use macchanger
[22:41] <dysoco> actually, that's a cool idea
[22:41] <fellayaboy> is there a sudo apt-get install way of dooing it
[22:41] <beandog> fellayaboy: sudo aptitude -y install macchanger
[22:41] <beandog> like that?
[22:42] <fellayaboy> yeah that didnt seem to work though
[22:42] <dysoco> apt-cache search macchanger
[22:42] <dysoco> it might be part of another package
[22:43] <fellayaboy> i have 6
[22:43] <fellayaboy> 64bit os does that matter
[22:43] <dysoco> nah
[22:43] <fellayaboy> keep getting aptitude command not found
[22:43] <dysoco> use apt
[22:43] <dysoco> not aptitude, as it's not installed as default
[22:43] <_Marcus> fellayaboy: Do apt-get
[22:44] <fellayaboy> deerr
[22:44] <fellayaboy> got it
[22:44] <fellayaboy> thanks dudes
[22:44] <fellayaboy> sooo i want to change my mac everytime i startup my pc
[22:45] <dysoco> so... you can add it to your services
[22:45] <fellayaboy> true..startup services deerrr
[22:45] <fellayaboy> ok i just wanna speed thru this cuz im kinda dumb..how do i make this work properly
[22:46] <fellayaboy> im looking at the man page
[22:46] <fellayaboy> nevermind..maccahnger -A wlan0 works fine for me thanks dudes very very much
[22:48] <xok> hello all...
[22:48] <fellayaboy> hello
[22:48] <xok> I want to pass some parameters to the kernel...
[22:48] <xok> I've got only ubuntu, it doesn't show any menu...
[22:49] <xok> what keys can I type to show up a menu (of the grub)?..
[22:49] <Oer> xok hold shift @ boot to enter grubmenu
[22:49] <xok> thank you Oer  I will try now...
[22:50] <bluetuga> hi. my system after going to sleep mode restarts a second later. is there a solution?
[22:51] <vook> Does anyone know of a modern ubuntu(/based) distribution (live cd/dvd) that boots to gnome, not unity?
[22:51] <Oer> !nounity
[22:52] <vook> I understand Oer, but the question still stands.
[22:52] <arand> vook: Mint is the closest you get in ubuntu-based I think, or maybe some Debian Live media...
[22:52] <arand> (though of course with debian it's the other way around)
[22:53] <Oer> bluetuga, could be a lot of things, i suggest first look in the bios, for ACPI pref
[22:53] <bluetuga> Oer ACPI is on , version 2 also
[22:53] <vook> arand: yes, I'd love to use the debian live instead (this is for a presentation where I'll be distributing live dvd's to 30 people).  Unforunately I'd prefer something that bundles some non-gnu items (such as broadcom firmware, etc..)
[22:53] <xok_> Oer: thank you very much, it worked perfectly...
[22:54] <bluetuga> i'm using ati driver (catalyst 12.2). but the same happens with the open source driver
[22:54] <Oer> vook "gnome" is equal, you would like gnome-panel, on top of gnome3
[22:54] <Oer> have fun xok
[22:54] <gamafish> Hi can some one help me
[22:55] <vook> Oer, I'd like something that boots to gnome but actually has an 'applications' menu (sorted by type, all inclusive, as is generally standard with gnome).
[22:55] <bittin> http://g.co/maps/ww3rh not that long of a walk
[22:55] <vook> looks like unity requires a right click to see 'applications', and still it doesn't sort/classify them or even show an inclusive list.
[22:56] <gamafish> I do not know how to use tar.bz2 files. It is for a visual novel.
[22:56] <vook> gamafish: to extract a tar.bz2 file, type 'tar xjf file.tar.bz2'
[22:57] <tiger_lili> hello again, i have some problems with my wireless on my dell lap top , i have upgraded ubuntu 11.1o and my wlan doesnt work, i used only lan, pls help
[22:57] <beandog> vook: actually you don't need j or z anymore
[22:57] <beandog> also, unfoo++
[22:57] <vook> beandog: no kidding, hmm
[22:57] <gamafish> In the prompt right?
[22:57] <beandog> http://obsoleet.org/code/unfoo/
[22:58] <gamafish> Can you give me an example I do not know how to use the prompt all that well?
[22:58] <vook> probably still a good habit though
[22:59] <keysersoze> good night
[23:01] <vook> gamafish: you may be able to just right click or double click on the file.  An example would be as I mentioned above.  Basically the .bz2 represents that the file is compressed, the .tar, that it's an archive (tape archive).  Just navigate to the folder where the file resides using 'cd' and then type 'tar xf filename.tar.bz2' (where filename is the name of the file).
[23:01] <scsinutz> can anyone recommend a backup solution that writes to tape?
[23:01] <vook> tar
[23:02] <vook> !tr
[23:02] <vook> !tar
[23:02] <Escherial> mkultra_, log: sorry for the huge delay, and thanks for the help with the whole unmounting/freezing issue with my sshfs mount
[23:02] <Kruge> vook: I use rsnapshot, and find it works pretty well for my needs.
[23:02] <Kruge> gr
[23:03] <Kruge> scsinutz: rsnapshot
[23:03] <vook> Kruge: rsnapshot on a tape would be interesting.
[23:03] <scsinutz> hard links wouldn't work on tape
[23:03] <Kruge> Ah
[23:03] <mkultra_> really?
[23:03] <gamafish> So it should be some thing like this :  tar xjf  '/home/Name/desktop/File name:   right?
[23:03] <mkultra_> did that clear it up?
[23:04] <mkultra_> sshfs is quick and easy, its not a permanent fix
[23:04] <Kruge> I have to admit, it has been about 15 years since I used tapes
[23:05] <theShadow-> hi
[23:05] <theShadow-> quick question
[23:05] <theShadow-> when I install an appplication from the ubuntu software center
[23:05] <theShadow-> where does it actually put the files?
[23:06] <vook> gamafish: basically yes, but the contents will be extracted to the current directory, you may wish to actually navigate to /home/Name/desktop, or use the --directory option, i.e. 'tar /home/Name/desktop/filename.tar.bz2 --directory /home/Name' etc...
[23:06] <theShadow-> and if I download an app through other means, should I put it in the same place?>
[23:06] <beandog> theShadow-: if you download from somewhere else, it should come in a .deb which will tell it where to install things on the filesystem
[23:06] <theShadow-> it didn't
[23:06] <gamafish> I tried treating it like a tgzr files by right clicking and giving a it admin permission.
[23:07] <beandog> theShadow-: what are you trying to install
[23:07] <theShadow-> blender
[23:07] <theShadow-> the version on the software center is out of date
[23:07] <vook> theShadow-: files are scattered in various places depending on the package.  If you compile a package from source, or install via a different method, software will be sent elsewhere (such as /usr/local, or /opt)
[23:08] <theShadow-> can I make an applications folder, for standalone apps?
[23:08] <theShadow-> blender came with everything it needs in 1 folder
[23:08] <vook> theShadow-: /opt is the standard folder for standalone apps
[23:08] <theShadow-> ok
[23:09] <plurrtard> Is there a way I can grep for files that start with either a space or newline character?
[23:10] <bluetuga> sleep mode is not working . any fix?
[23:10] <SumoJim> So, I installed rsh-server through synaptic, yet "which rshd" returns nothing and does not exist in /sbin/ or /usr/sbin/ am I missing something?
[23:10] <lahwran> plurrtard: not with grep, that I know of
[23:11] <beandog> plurrtard: yah
[23:11] <beandog> lemme think a second
[23:11] <beandog> crap
[23:12] <SumoJim> plurrtard: Did you try using an escape character like grep "/ pattern"?
[23:12] <theShadow-> ugh
[23:12] <SumoJim> (Just a guess)
[23:12] <lahwran> SumoJim: he wants to search for newlines
[23:12] <theShadow-> dont have permission to put stuff in opt
[23:12] <lahwran> theShadow-: why are you "installing" blender?
[23:13] <lahwran> theShadow-: just stick it in your homedir and doubleclick
[23:13] <theShadow-> but thats retarded
[23:13] <lahwran> suit yourself
[23:13] <theShadow-> with that mentality, im going to get so disorganized so fast
[23:13] <haz3lnut> I use ~/opt for that kind of stuff
[23:13] <beandog> | grep "^ "
[23:13] <lahwran> so organize it
[23:13] <beandog> but that doesn't seem quite right.
[23:13] <lahwran> beandog: that will search if there are any lines starting with space in the file
[23:14] <lahwran> theShadow-: but it doesn't need to go in /opt
[23:15] <theShadow-> i made a folder
[23:15] <theShadow-> called applications
[23:15] <lahwran> theShadow-: personally I'm horrible beyond horrible at organization
[23:16] <lahwran> but if you want to organize, there's no reason to use root-owned directories to do it
[23:16] <theShadow-> I just want to do things right from the start is all
[23:16] <theShadow-> and it seems like ubuntu doesnt want me too
[23:16] <lahwran> there is nothing explicitly "right" about /opt
[23:17] <lahwran> /opt is more for people who are making packages of standalone apps
[23:17] <lahwran> which will be installed by root
[23:17] <jrib> theShadow-: "right" is to use a .deb
[23:18] <jrib> theShadow-: having said that, there's nothing wrong with just putting the app in your home if it's only your user using it anyway and you can't find a proper .deb
[23:18] <theShadow-> I'm normally an OSX user
[23:18] <theShadow-> so I'm used to a different way of doing things
[23:19] <lahwran> it's not horribly different
[23:19] <theShadow-> it kind of is
[23:19] <theShadow-> one of the things I love about OSX is the way files are organized
[23:20] <theShadow-> also, unity is retarded, no offense
[23:20] <theShadow-> but it is fucking up all over the place
[23:20] <ikonia> theShadow-: stop the language now
[23:20] <theShadow-> sorry
[23:21] <ikonia> theShadow-: thank you
[23:21] <mhts> hey guys. i have 1 question. i opened xchat with terminal. how can i type a new command in terminal without closing xchat?
[23:21] <esotera> try xchat &
[23:22] <theShadow-> I am using dolphin for viewing my file system
[23:22] <jrib> mhts: you can hit ctrl-z to suspend xchat and then type "bg" to restart it in the background.  You should google "bash job control"
[23:22] <theShadow-> and it seems like every time I close the window, it dissapears from unity
[23:22] <theShadow-> ignoring my command to leave it there
[23:22] <theShadow-> also, random blank spaces keep appearing, for no apparent reason
[23:23] <theShadow-> sometimes a seperate icon will pop up for every open window of an application
[23:23] <theShadow-> empathy has 2 seperate icons up now
[23:23] <theShadow-> if I tell one to go away, they both go away
[23:23] <theShadow-> stuff like that
[23:24] <theShadow-> its also crashed, fatally
[23:24] <theShadow-> at least 6 times today
[23:24] <st1> go to launchpad find bug click affects me
[23:25] <theShadow-> also, everything gets really choppy when I try and drag a window
[23:25] <theShadow-> not sure why
[23:25] <beandog> sounds like crappy video card and/or driver
[23:25] <theShadow-> but everything else is blazing fast
[23:26] <theShadow-> and I remember dragging windows used to work fine
[23:26] <st1> theshadow: dragging window is also a known compiz bug, some say you can change settings
[23:26] <theShadow-> ok
[23:26] <YOGII> alguien que  hable español
[23:26] <theShadow-> yeah, it started after installing compiz
[23:26] <st1> most likely if you refresh compiz now it will work "fine"
[23:26] <theShadow-> how do you refresh compiz?
[23:26] <xangua> theShadow-: hitting enter every short sentence is the best way to flood the channel and say nothing :/
[23:27] <beandog> YOGII: hay un canal para castellano
[23:27] <st1> alt+f2  'compiz --replace'
[23:27] <red_one> Hi
[23:27] <beandog> YOGII: #ubuntu-es
[23:27] <red_one> Is there a reason why ubuntu (and presumably linux in general) keeps switching which CPU core a process is running on?
[23:28] <red_one> surely it would be more efficient to keep a process on one core (for power management, which is my concern atm)
[23:28] <kaleb> herro :D
[23:28] <tbruff13> can someone please help me
[23:28] <beandog> does ubuntu do cpufreq by default?
[23:29] <tbruff13> beandog, do you know any thing about xmodmap
[23:29] <AlbireoX> Ìû
[23:29] <red_one> beandog: i don't know, but i'm runnin cpufreqd successfully.
[23:30] <beandog> tbruff13: a bit
[23:30] <_Marcus> AlbireoX: ?
[23:30] <beandog> red_one: they won't switch processors.  one process will stay on the one that spawned it.  linux will distribute jobs itself though
[23:30] <tbruff13> beandog, I am trying to like the key fn+F11 to a shortcut but the fn+ part must be wrong how do i signify function plus another key
[23:31] <red_one> beandog: that was my expectation
[23:31] <SumoJim> Does anyone know how to install rshd? I tried installing rsh-server but "which rshd" returns nothing.
[23:32] <beandog> tbruff13: hmm, not sure.
[23:32] <beandog> red_one: okay, what was your question then? :)
[23:32] <beandog> SumoJim: did you install it with aptitude?
[23:32] <tbruff13> beandog, i will take this method apart and use another one
[23:33] <beandog> tbruff13: try running xev and then hitting Fn key to see which keycode it is
[23:33] <beandog> that *may* help
[23:33] <SumoJim> beandog: I installed it with Synaptic
[23:33] <beandog> SumoJim: try dpkg -L rsh-server to see what binaries it installed
[23:34] <tbruff13> beandog that is just it when i run xev and hit fn nothing happens
[23:34] <beandog> tbruff13: well, crap.  That's annoying.
[23:34] <SumoJim> beandog: Output of dpkg -L rsh-server here: http://codepad.org/J8zMkcOY
[23:34] <tbruff13> only when i hit fn+F12 does keycode 171 pop up
[23:34] <beandog> tbruff13: does hitting just F12 bring up the same keycode?
[23:34] <beandog> SumoJim: /usr/sbin/in.rshd looks like it
[23:34] <SumoJim> beandog: Hmm, I see a in.rshd, I wonder what that is.
[23:35] <beandog> SumoJim: there's man pages installed for them too, so maybe try man in.rshd
[23:35] <beandog> I'm not familiar with it, so .. yah
[23:35] <SumoJim> beandog, so I have to call it as in.rshd? Can I rename it?
[23:35] <tbruff13> beandog, it does not bring up anything
[23:35] <beandog> SumoJim: I'd make an alias instead of moving it around.
[23:35] <beandog> tbruff13: really.  Now that's odd.  Just the combo works.
[23:36] <tbruff13> beandog, i will try keymap
[23:36] <tbruff13> the program
[23:36] <beandog> tbruff13: is it a laptop?
[23:36] <tbruff13> beandog, acer aspire 5517
[23:36] <tbruff13> it worked in mint 12
[23:36] <tbruff13> and in ubuntu 10.10 a long time ago lol
[23:36] <red_one> beandog: i'm running burnP6, one process. according to htop and System Monitor, it's changing cores every 3-4 seconds
[23:37] <beandog> tbruff13: ah did it?  There might be a detailed xorg config or something in t here, then.  At the very least, I'd google your model # with linux and see if you can find something.  Gotta be something out there.
[23:37] <Drewch> can anyone help me with setting up an IP using static ip, I'm foliowing this: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319 , and I can't seem to ping anything but myself
[23:37] <beandog> red_one: it's probably spawning multiple processes then
[23:37] <red_one> beandog: no, the PID stays the same
[23:38] <beandog> red_one: right, the started program does, but it can still spawn processes.
[23:38] <beandog> red_one: think of it as a web browser would work ... original binary is one thread, each tab is another process, etc.
[23:38] <nibbler_> Drewch, did you set the right ip of your default gateway,can you ping this?
[23:38] <red_one> well
[23:38] <red_one> should'nt each process have a different PID?
[23:38] <red_one> you're talking threads
[23:38] <red_one> not processes
[23:38] <red_one> surely
[23:38] <FloodBot1> red_one: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <gamafish> Ok I figured it out I did every thing right but I over looked a python script.
[23:39] <beandog> red_one: eh, depends .. I dont even know what that program is
[23:39] <red_one> beandog: part of the cpuburn package
[23:39] <Drewch> nibbler_ yea I set the right IP, I am not on that network right now so I can't ping it from this computer.  But set up static ip on my mac just before unplugging my mac and trying on ubuntu server
[23:39] <Drewch> nibbler_ it is a static ip line, so I was only testing on one computer, then the other
[23:39] <beandog> red_one: well either way, it's probably just spawning stuff
[23:40] <SumoJim> beandog: Yea, looks like I am able to rsh just fine. Thank you.
[23:40] <beandog> SumoJim: cool
[23:40] <Drewch> I'm using the /etc/network/interfaces file to do it
[23:40] <nibbler_> Drewch, ah okay. so you get a link on the network (link up in dmesg, greed led at the plug) but cannot ping anything?
[23:41] <nibbler_> Drewch, can you nopaste the output of: route -n;ifconfig -a
[23:41] <tbruff13> beandog, i am not finding anything at
[23:41] <tbruff13> all
[23:41] <tbruff13> beandog, sadly this is kind a massive issue for me
[23:41] <Drewch> nibbler_ dmesg is saying link up, but just above that line it says eth0 promiscuous mode (which is kind odd), and yes green led at the plug
[23:42] <nibbler_> Drewch, promiscous mode is entered if you call tcpdump without a specific switch for example...
[23:43] <beandog> tbruff13: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_One  it has keycodes for function keys
[23:43] <dfdfdf> it's my freind =http://www.xlovecam.com/sex-cam-hot-live-bebessa-jeunesfemmes-22-ans-80293.html
[23:44] <Drewch> nibbler_ do you have twitter, I can tweet you the output
[23:44] <CFHowlett> !paste|Drewch
[23:45] <Drewch> CFHowlett does that require an internet connection?
[23:45] <Drewch> ah ya i guess i can try to hit that from my phone
[23:45] <CFHowlett> Drewch   ach.  you're right.  sorry, drt (didn't read thread)
[23:45] <Drewch> no worries
[23:45] <nibbler_> Drewch, make a picture and upload it ;-)
[23:45] <Drewch> I had a picture but can i just tweet it to you its easier lol
[23:46] <tbruff13> beandog, you are a guru
[23:46] <tbruff13> :)
[23:46] <beandog> tbruff13: let's just say I've broken everything that can be broken, and more.
[23:47] <beandog> tbruff13: put them in an .xmodmap file (can't remember the exact name) and it'll get sourced at login
[23:47] <beandog> well, it should.
[23:48] <tbruff13> beandog, can you answer another question for me
[23:48] <beandog> tbruff13: dunno, whats up
[23:48] <tbruff13> beandog, when ever i run banshee in kde it worked at first
[23:49] <Drewch> nibbler_ : http://imagebin.org/204437
[23:49] <tbruff13> as soon as i told it to use the notification icon it crashed and will not start back up
[23:49] <beandog> tbruff13: okay
[23:49] <Drewch> nibbler_ Nvm fixed the problem haha
[23:49] <beandog> tbruff13: open a terminal and see if you have a directory "~/.config/banshee"
[23:49] <flash_> Hi guys. Is there a command I can run that will show me in real time when my computer gets ping'ed?
[23:49] <flash_> Or any incoming connections?
[23:49] <beandog> flash_: iptables logging, is one option
[23:50] <beandog> I'm sure there's lots more
[23:50] <nibbler_> Drewch, good ;-)
[23:50] <jbreher> Help req: installed 10.10 server, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Now my admin/root password works in shell, but not in GUI. How to fix?
[23:50] <nibbler_> flash_, iptables might be best shot, but tcpdump or whatever using libpcap would do, too
[23:51] <beandog> tbruff13: oh, looks like it may be ~/.config/banshee-1
[23:51] <tbruff13> checking
[23:51] <nibbler_> Drewch, so, what was the problem?
[23:51] <Drewch> nibbler_ i had to disable dhcp client completely
[23:51] <tbruff13> i have it
[23:52] <beandog> tbruff13: just delete it
[23:52] <nibbler_> Drewch, ah okay ;-)
[23:52] <tbruff13> beandog, that will bring banshee back but how do i get a notifcation icon
[23:52] <Drewch> nibbler_ i have eucalyptus node controller set up, which has that interface br0 in the picture, and it was trying to do dhcp on eth0 even though I was setting it manually
[23:52] <Drewch> nibbler_ so once I took down eucalyptus and br0 down , it just worked
[23:52] <beandog> tbruff13: well it sounds like KDE isn't happy with it.  You could try it again, see what it does.  *shrug*  Can't really say much more than that. :T
[23:52] <Drewch> stupid dhcp
[23:53] <tbruff13> beandog, ok with the multimedia key then there is no keycode for skip song
[23:53] <nibbler_> Drewch, be carefull with devices directly connected to the internet
[23:53] <tbruff13> but i know it it is 171
[23:53] <tbruff13> but what is skip song called xf86....'
[23:54] <beandog> tbruff13: um, sec
[23:54] <beandog> tbruff13: theres a list somewhere
[23:55] <tbruff13> ill look
[23:55] <Drewch> nibbler_ good point, thx
[23:56] <xibalba> anyone use siproxd?>
[23:56] <beandog> tbruff13: XF86AudioNext
[23:56] <beandog> tbruff13: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/Keycodes
[23:56] <tbruff13> found it on another blog but okay
[23:56] <tbruff13> thanks man you are a beast
[23:56] <beandog> np
[23:58] <motz> has anyone experience with installing wmii?
[23:58] <jbreher> Help req: installed 10.10 server, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Now my admin/root password works in shell, but not in GUI. How to fix?
[23:59] <xibalba> i'm looking for someone whohas used siproxd
[23:59] <xibalba> jbreher , install the desktop version
[23:59] <xibalba> or dont use a gui on your server
[23:59] <jbreher> I need to use server - I need a custom version of qemu from github