| damit23 | hey all .. | 01:46 |
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| damit23 | i upgraded from hardy heron to 10.10 and now my maudio 1010lt is no longer outputting audio | 01:47 |
| damit23 | its detected fine and alsamixer/envy24control work as expected .. in the sound preferences i get only combinations of digital input / digital output / digital surround but no analogue | 01:48 |
| CFHowlett | http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?21403-Setting-up-1010lt-in-ubuntu | 01:49 |
| CFHowlett | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSVx56WMsHc | 01:49 |
| damit23 | tnx CFHowlett | 01:49 |
| CFHowlett | no problems | 01:49 |
| damit23 | hm stange nothing its like the players and things that make noise are doing there job | 02:01 |
| damit23 | but there is just nothing comming out and envy24controls vu meters are not jumping | 02:01 |
| damit23 | if i apt-get install linux-rt will that install every thing i need to test it under the RT kernel? | 02:06 |
| damit23 | CFHowlett, i tried via audacious which is pretty clear about which card/mixer/mixer element its trying to use so it must be something to do with the module in 2.6.32 | 02:07 |
| CFHowlett | damit23 rt is built for low/no lag uses. I'm not sure it'll address your interface issues. When I've run Ubuntu studio on the normal kernel, my options still appeared... | 02:08 |
| CFHowlett | sadly, my help must be limited. I'm one of those weird LTS only users, so I'm still on 10.04 ... | 02:08 |
| damit23 | im sure the dist upgrade thingy said 10.10 is LTS :) | 02:10 |
| CFHowlett | 10.10 is NOT LTS. sorry. 10.04 is current LTS. 12.04 is the next LTS. | 02:16 |
| holstein | yeah.. 10.04... 12.04 | 02:17 |
| holstein | damit23: the thingy didnt say 10.10 lts | 02:17 |
| damit23 | i swear it did lol !!! | 02:17 |
| holstein | nope | 02:17 |
| damit23 | maybe its confused in hardy heron | 02:17 |
| holstein | nah.. 8.04 is LTS.. that would upgrade to 8.10 or 10.04 | 02:18 |
| holstein | i dont upgrade though.. sometimes i try it to test the path, then i fresh install right after | 02:18 |
| damit23 | ok well i am going to try 2.6.31 RT | 02:23 |
| damit23 | this is a dead horsy i think .. normally as soon as you modprobe the ice1712 module you hear a chime play and it never happened either | 02:24 |
| holstein | from what i hear, you just select it in JACK and start it up | 02:24 |
| holstein | you might be trying to do too much | 02:24 |
| damit23 | i am just trying to use it directly on alsa | 02:24 |
| holstein | folks in the #opensourcemusicians channel have that hardware | 02:24 |
| holstein | damit23: yeah? .. not sure how that works | 02:24 |
| holstein | i would just select it in alsamixer | 02:25 |
| holstein | i would try and disable the other cards in the bios | 02:25 |
| holstein | i would try installing pavucontrol | 02:25 |
| holstein | could be the implementaion of pulse | 02:26 |
| holstein | 8.04 is *quite* different | 02:26 |
| damit23 | yeah its free of pulse | 02:26 |
| holstein | cool | 02:26 |
| holstein | it didnt come that way | 02:26 |
| damit23 | i might of removed it | 02:27 |
| holstein | i would look into what you did to make it pulse-free and make sure you didnt break functionality | 02:27 |
| damit23 | it was like 8 years ago or something | 02:27 |
| holstein | i have both pulse and non-pulse systems | 02:27 |
| holstein | both have issues | 02:27 |
| holstein | damit23: you should have pulse if you just upgraded to 10.04 | 02:27 |
| holstein | if you upgraded, and didnt do anything to *not* have pulse, you probably have pulse | 02:27 |
| holstein | you can try the 12.04 live CD | 02:27 |
| holstein | you can try reinstalling | 02:27 |
| damit23 | yeah btw sorry i was wrong it did upgrade me to 10.04 not 10.10 | 02:27 |
| holstein | damit23: right.. i never thought it was 10.10 ;) | 02:28 |
| * damit23 slaps him self with a iron hammer | 02:28 | |
| holstein | anyways.. theres no reason to avoid pulse, unless you have a reason | 02:28 |
| holstein | i would try with pulse, from a live CD, or try JACK just to see some sound come out ot the hardware | 02:28 |
| damit23 | ok i have not tried jack but jack is just going to use alsa as the back end | 02:29 |
| CFHowlett | holstein on 10.04, he'd need the rt kernel to run jack, would he not? | 02:29 |
| holstein | i assure you more that one person in #opensourcemusicians uses that hardware in ubuntu | 02:29 |
| holstein | CFHowlett: wouldnt *need* it | 02:29 |
| holstein | to get lower latency sure | 02:29 |
| * damit23 install qjackctl | 02:29 | |
| holstein | damit23: ? | 02:29 |
| holstein | you should have it man | 02:30 |
| holstein | if you had ubuntustudio | 02:30 |
| CFHowlett | exactly | 02:30 |
| holstein | and you upgraded to ubuntustudio 10.04 | 02:30 |
| holstein | if you dont, you dont have ubuntustudio, or you didnt have it | 02:30 |
| holstein | which is fine, im not saying you need to leave | 02:30 |
| holstein | im just trying to provide you with support for the hardware you are saying doesnt work | 02:30 |
| damit23 | it was ubuntustudio ifirc | 02:30 |
| holstein | and i feel like it might be due to some customizations, or some misunderstanding as to what software you are actually running | 02:31 |
| damit23 | aha | 02:31 |
| damit23 | suspending pulseaudio is the key | 02:37 |
| holstein | yeah? | 02:38 |
| holstein | so, you have pulseaudio then? | 02:38 |
| damit23 | absolutely | 02:38 |
| damit23 | yeah after the upgrade from hardy heron | 02:38 |
| damit23 | well this is a relief ;] | 02:40 |
| holstein | you might want to check out the 12.04 live CD | 02:40 |
| holstein | 12.04 is out and stable next month | 02:41 |
| holstein | you might want to be using the current system | 02:41 |
| holstein | no reason to get used to 10.04 and use it for a year or so past EOL | 02:41 |
| holstein | the 12.04 core will be getting updates for 5 years | 02:42 |
| damit23 | well thats certainly compelling | 02:42 |
| CFHowlett | absolutely agree on that point. | 02:42 |
| holstein | i mean, im using 10.04 on my production machine, but im going to 12.04 ASAP | 02:42 |
| damit23 | so i am guessing there must be something missing from pulse to not be showing me the analogue options | 02:43 |
| holstein | damit23: pavucontrol mabye | 02:43 |
| CFHowlett | damit23 have you ever run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:43 |
| holstein | i dont know anyone that doesnt use JACK with that card | 02:43 |
| damit23 | thats exactly what i did to go from 8.0.4 to 10.04 CFHowlett | 02:44 |
| holstein | yeah, you can do that if you like | 02:44 |
| damit23 | which by the way went flawlessly .. congrats devs -bow- | 02:44 |
| holstein | but, i would personally want a fresh install | 02:44 |
| CFHowlett | damit23 nope. dist-release will upgrade a release. dist-upgrade will only upgrade packages for that distro. | 02:44 |
| damit23 | ok i did it through the gui | 02:44 |
| CFHowlett | damit23 just for fun, try these in your terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:45 |
| damit23 | it said -distribution upgrade- and said it was going to upgrade to 10.04 so that is a 'dist-release upgrade' then i take it | 02:45 |
| damit23 | mplayer -ao pulse blabla.mp3 does not work either | 02:56 |
| holstein | i dont think pulse works that way | 02:57 |
| holstein | i would just open up vlc and try it | 02:57 |
| holstein | i would try something other than an .mp3 | 02:57 |
| holstein | if sound works, then its likely a codec thing | 02:57 |
| damit23 | heh | 03:03 |
| damit23 | vlc outputs nothing on either pulse or alsa | 03:03 |
| holstein | OK... with the mp3? | 03:04 |
| damit23 | yup | 03:04 |
| holstein | i feel confident we can get you playing an audio file | 03:04 |
| holstein | damit23: can you try and ogg? or a wav? you have sound otherwise, correct? | 03:04 |
| damit23 | surely lol i just did with jack as the sound server | 03:04 |
| holstein | damit23: jack has to be configured properly | 03:05 |
| holstein | then VLC has to be configured to use JACK | 03:05 |
| holstein | OR, you need a JACK friendly player | 03:05 |
| holstein | JACK is not something you just fire up and use | 03:05 |
| damit23 | yeah thats not a problem | 03:05 |
| holstein | damit23: yeah? | 03:05 |
| damit23 | jack just suspends pulse | 03:05 |
| holstein | correct | 03:05 |
| damit23 | and it works as expected | 03:05 |
| holstein | and thats what you want | 03:05 |
| damit23 | welll yeah but apps can and should be able to just use alsa or pulse directly | 03:06 |
| holstein | damit23: JACK kills that | 03:07 |
| damit23 | only if its Running!# | 03:07 |
| holstein | damit23: JACK is not something you want to just fire up and use | 03:07 |
| holstein | damit23: or if you didnt kill it | 03:07 |
| holstein | or if its running and you dont know | 03:07 |
| holstein | or running on a different card than you expected | 03:07 |
| holstein | or misconfigured | 03:07 |
| damit23 | i would know .. i am kind of jackd developer :) | 03:07 |
| holstein | damit23: cool | 03:08 |
| damit23 | i think this is why i ripped pulse out of hardy heron originally | 03:08 |
| holstein | enjoy.... you might want to try and catch one of the guys in #opensourcemusicians with that specific hardware | 03:08 |
| holstein | damit23: i have issues both ways personally | 03:08 |
| holstein | i mean, rip out what you like... | 03:09 |
| holstein | but nothing about pulse is improperly functioning | 03:09 |
| holstein | im not a pulse, alsa or JACK dev | 03:09 |
| damit23 | I just want to use the apps i originally had working fine ones with there own back end support | 03:09 |
| damit23 | mplayer supports every sound driver on the planet just about | 03:09 |
| damit23 | so does liquidsoap | 03:09 |
| damit23 | so does vlc | 03:09 |
| damit23 | so does mplayer | 03:10 |
| damit23 | so does ogg123 | 03:10 |
| holstein | sure.. tell VLC to use JACK and it will | 03:10 |
| damit23 | wtf | 03:10 |
| damit23 | apt-get remove pulseaudio | 03:20 |
| holstein | sure... remove what you want, but i think it might be more envolved than that.. or maybe you want to find one of those folks i mentioned who are using 10.04 through 11.10 with that exact hardware | 03:21 |
| holstein | maybe http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/ is enough | 03:21 |
| damit23 | yep mplayer is still trying to select pulse first | 03:22 |
| damit23 | i guess thats just what it knows in .mplayer | 03:23 |
| * damit23 reads | 03:24 | |
| damit23 | hahaa | 03:27 |
| damit23 | killall -9 pulseaudio | 03:27 |
| damit23 | that would help | 03:27 |
| damit23 | i know i should of use pkill to do it politely | 03:27 |
| damit23 | Yaaaaay | 03:28 |
| damit23 | ::) | 03:28 |
| damit23 | thanks for your time holstein | 03:34 |
| holstein | damit23: sure.. anytime | 03:34 |
| al4nc4ds | ubuntu studio 12.04 beta1 very nice! | 03:45 |
| holstein | al4nc4ds: glad you like it.. you mind if i ask what kernel you are using? | 03:45 |
| holstein | the *-lowlatency one? | 03:45 |
| al4nc4ds | eeepc@laptop:~$ uname -na | 03:46 |
| al4nc4ds | Linux laptop 3.2.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 16 16:27:15 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 03:46 |
| al4nc4ds | holstein, this is? | 03:47 |
| holstein | not sure when we are getting that lowlatency one in there | 03:47 |
| holstein | anyways.. just asking | 03:47 |
| al4nc4ds | not understood | 03:48 |
| al4nc4ds | what are you using? | 03:49 |
| holstein | al4nc4ds: ill be using 10.04 on my production rig til next month, or i get time to migrate | 03:50 |
| holstein | al4nc4ds: im testing 12.04 though | 03:50 |
| al4nc4ds | holstein, 100% full on | 03:51 |
| al4nc4ds | http://alancads.wordpress.com/2012/03/12/nvidia-optimus-no-ubuntu-12-04/ | 03:51 |
| al4nc4ds | holstein, goodbye []`s | 03:53 |
| damit23 | see you round holstein tnx again | 05:03 |
| ailo | holstein: envy24 devices don't work with PA until maybe 12.04 | 06:33 |
| ailo | There were some hacks to get it working in the past, but those only worked with some releases | 06:34 |
| ailo | alsa/PA formality issue | 06:34 |
| ailo | 4 | 12:02 |
| HiDeHo | Hi all nyone here atm | 12:45 |
| HiDeHo | i am wanting to find another drum machinn. hydrogen does not have any drumb beets or songs available | 12:46 |
| HiDeHo | Hi does ubuntu studio have a opterissed kernel. | 13:22 |
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