[01:46] hey all .. [01:47] i upgraded from hardy heron to 10.10 and now my maudio 1010lt is no longer outputting audio [01:48] its detected fine and alsamixer/envy24control work as expected .. in the sound preferences i get only combinations of digital input / digital output / digital surround but no analogue [01:49] http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?21403-Setting-up-1010lt-in-ubuntu [01:49] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSVx56WMsHc [01:49] tnx CFHowlett [01:49] no problems [02:01] hm stange nothing its like the players and things that make noise are doing there job [02:01] but there is just nothing comming out and envy24controls vu meters are not jumping [02:06] if i apt-get install linux-rt will that install every thing i need to test it under the RT kernel? [02:07] CFHowlett, i tried via audacious which is pretty clear about which card/mixer/mixer element its trying to use so it must be something to do with the module in 2.6.32 [02:08] damit23 rt is built for low/no lag uses. I'm not sure it'll address your interface issues. When I've run Ubuntu studio on the normal kernel, my options still appeared... [02:08] sadly, my help must be limited. I'm one of those weird LTS only users, so I'm still on 10.04 ... [02:10] im sure the dist upgrade thingy said 10.10 is LTS :) [02:16] 10.10 is NOT LTS. sorry. 10.04 is current LTS. 12.04 is the next LTS. [02:17] yeah.. 10.04... 12.04 [02:17] damit23: the thingy didnt say 10.10 lts [02:17] i swear it did lol !!! [02:17] nope [02:17] maybe its confused in hardy heron [02:18] nah.. 8.04 is LTS.. that would upgrade to 8.10 or 10.04 [02:18] i dont upgrade though.. sometimes i try it to test the path, then i fresh install right after [02:23] ok well i am going to try 2.6.31 RT [02:24] this is a dead horsy i think .. normally as soon as you modprobe the ice1712 module you hear a chime play and it never happened either [02:24] from what i hear, you just select it in JACK and start it up [02:24] you might be trying to do too much [02:24] i am just trying to use it directly on alsa [02:24] folks in the #opensourcemusicians channel have that hardware [02:24] damit23: yeah? .. not sure how that works [02:25] i would just select it in alsamixer [02:25] i would try and disable the other cards in the bios [02:25] i would try installing pavucontrol [02:26] could be the implementaion of pulse [02:26] 8.04 is *quite* different [02:26] yeah its free of pulse [02:26] cool [02:26] it didnt come that way [02:27] i might of removed it [02:27] i would look into what you did to make it pulse-free and make sure you didnt break functionality [02:27] it was like 8 years ago or something [02:27] i have both pulse and non-pulse systems [02:27] both have issues [02:27] damit23: you should have pulse if you just upgraded to 10.04 [02:27] if you upgraded, and didnt do anything to *not* have pulse, you probably have pulse [02:27] you can try the 12.04 live CD [02:27] you can try reinstalling [02:27] yeah btw sorry i was wrong it did upgrade me to 10.04 not 10.10 [02:28] damit23: right.. i never thought it was 10.10 ;) [02:28] * damit23 slaps him self with a iron hammer [02:28] anyways.. theres no reason to avoid pulse, unless you have a reason [02:28] i would try with pulse, from a live CD, or try JACK just to see some sound come out ot the hardware [02:29] ok i have not tried jack but jack is just going to use alsa as the back end [02:29] holstein on 10.04, he'd need the rt kernel to run jack, would he not? [02:29] i assure you more that one person in #opensourcemusicians uses that hardware in ubuntu [02:29] CFHowlett: wouldnt *need* it [02:29] to get lower latency sure [02:29] * damit23 install qjackctl [02:29] damit23: ? [02:30] you should have it man [02:30] if you had ubuntustudio [02:30] exactly [02:30] and you upgraded to ubuntustudio 10.04 [02:30] if you dont, you dont have ubuntustudio, or you didnt have it [02:30] which is fine, im not saying you need to leave [02:30] im just trying to provide you with support for the hardware you are saying doesnt work [02:30] it was ubuntustudio ifirc [02:31] and i feel like it might be due to some customizations, or some misunderstanding as to what software you are actually running [02:31] aha [02:37] suspending pulseaudio is the key [02:38] yeah? [02:38] so, you have pulseaudio then? [02:38] absolutely [02:38] yeah after the upgrade from hardy heron [02:40] well this is a relief ;] [02:40] you might want to check out the 12.04 live CD [02:41] 12.04 is out and stable next month [02:41] you might want to be using the current system [02:41] no reason to get used to 10.04 and use it for a year or so past EOL [02:42] the 12.04 core will be getting updates for 5 years [02:42] well thats certainly compelling [02:42] absolutely agree on that point. [02:42] i mean, im using 10.04 on my production machine, but im going to 12.04 ASAP [02:43] so i am guessing there must be something missing from pulse to not be showing me the analogue options [02:43] damit23: pavucontrol mabye [02:43] damit23 have you ever run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:43] i dont know anyone that doesnt use JACK with that card [02:44] thats exactly what i did to go from 8.0.4 to 10.04 CFHowlett [02:44] yeah, you can do that if you like [02:44] which by the way went flawlessly .. congrats devs -bow- [02:44] but, i would personally want a fresh install [02:44] damit23 nope. dist-release will upgrade a release. dist-upgrade will only upgrade packages for that distro. [02:44] ok i did it through the gui [02:45] damit23 just for fun, try these in your terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:45] it said -distribution upgrade- and said it was going to upgrade to 10.04 so that is a 'dist-release upgrade' then i take it [02:56] mplayer -ao pulse blabla.mp3 does not work either [02:57] i dont think pulse works that way [02:57] i would just open up vlc and try it [02:57] i would try something other than an .mp3 [02:57] if sound works, then its likely a codec thing [03:03] heh [03:03] vlc outputs nothing on either pulse or alsa [03:04] OK... with the mp3? [03:04] yup [03:04] i feel confident we can get you playing an audio file [03:04] damit23: can you try and ogg? or a wav? you have sound otherwise, correct? [03:04] surely lol i just did with jack as the sound server [03:05] damit23: jack has to be configured properly [03:05] then VLC has to be configured to use JACK [03:05] OR, you need a JACK friendly player [03:05] JACK is not something you just fire up and use [03:05] yeah thats not a problem [03:05] damit23: yeah? [03:05] jack just suspends pulse [03:05] correct [03:05] and it works as expected [03:05] and thats what you want [03:06] welll yeah but apps can and should be able to just use alsa or pulse directly [03:07] damit23: JACK kills that [03:07] only if its Running!# [03:07] damit23: JACK is not something you want to just fire up and use [03:07] damit23: or if you didnt kill it [03:07] or if its running and you dont know [03:07] or running on a different card than you expected [03:07] or misconfigured [03:07] i would know .. i am kind of jackd developer :) [03:08] damit23: cool [03:08] i think this is why i ripped pulse out of hardy heron originally [03:08] enjoy.... you might want to try and catch one of the guys in #opensourcemusicians with that specific hardware [03:08] damit23: i have issues both ways personally [03:09] i mean, rip out what you like... [03:09] but nothing about pulse is improperly functioning [03:09] im not a pulse, alsa or JACK dev [03:09] I just want to use the apps i originally had working fine ones with there own back end support [03:09] mplayer supports every sound driver on the planet just about [03:09] so does liquidsoap [03:09] so does vlc [03:10] so does mplayer [03:10] so does ogg123 [03:10] sure.. tell VLC to use JACK and it will [03:10] wtf [03:20] apt-get remove pulseaudio [03:21] sure... remove what you want, but i think it might be more envolved than that.. or maybe you want to find one of those folks i mentioned who are using 10.04 through 11.10 with that exact hardware [03:21] maybe http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/ is enough [03:22] yep mplayer is still trying to select pulse first [03:23] i guess thats just what it knows in .mplayer [03:24] * damit23 reads [03:27] hahaa [03:27] killall -9 pulseaudio [03:27] that would help [03:27] i know i should of use pkill to do it politely [03:28] Yaaaaay [03:28] ::) [03:34] thanks for your time holstein [03:34] damit23: sure.. anytime [03:45] ubuntu studio 12.04 beta1 very nice! [03:45] al4nc4ds: glad you like it.. you mind if i ask what kernel you are using? [03:45] the *-lowlatency one? [03:46] eeepc@laptop:~$ uname -na [03:46] Linux laptop 3.2.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 16 16:27:15 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [03:47] holstein, this is? [03:47] not sure when we are getting that lowlatency one in there [03:47] anyways.. just asking [03:48] not understood [03:49] what are you using? [03:50] al4nc4ds: ill be using 10.04 on my production rig til next month, or i get time to migrate [03:50] al4nc4ds: im testing 12.04 though [03:51] holstein, 100% full on [03:51] http://alancads.wordpress.com/2012/03/12/nvidia-optimus-no-ubuntu-12-04/ [03:53] holstein, goodbye []`s [05:03] see you round holstein tnx again [06:33] holstein: envy24 devices don't work with PA until maybe 12.04 [06:34] There were some hacks to get it working in the past, but those only worked with some releases [06:34] alsa/PA formality issue [12:02] 4 [12:45] Hi all nyone here atm [12:46] i am wanting to find another drum machinn. hydrogen does not have any drumb beets or songs available [13:22] Hi does ubuntu studio have a opterissed kernel.