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streetfightersalut00:14
KarmaComaHello, Kubuntu 12.04, ATI HD 5570, HD monitor plugged through HDMI, turns off after 1 minute, i turned screensaver off and edited the power manager but nothing.00:15
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JMichaelXKDE needs a better world clock widget than the marble one01:34
DaskreechJMichaelX, Sounds like a chance to pimp QML01:37
JMichaelXyep, i'm contemplating that01:37
DaskreechHow many cities do you need?01:38
JMichaelX3 or 401:38
JMichaelXbtw, marble itself is awesome01:39
DaskreechYeah I've never seen one that continues to be useful after the 6th city01:40
DaskreechIsn't it?01:40
JMichaelXvery01:40
DaskreechIt got featured on a TV show here as a technology segment01:40
Daskreech(Well I was doing the presentation)01:40
Daskreechand it just so happened that we had a hurricane coming at the country. So we opened it up and swooshed it around and showed off the zoom and the country01:41
JMichaelXi used to use an opera world clock widget that i liked, but i shy away from proprietary software now more than i used to01:41
JMichaelXDaskreech: sweet01:41
DaskreechThe presenter made some comments directly into the camera and turned back and said Oh look it has clouds too01:42
JMichaelXwas this public access?01:42
DaskreechWait. are those animated... wait is that live? That looks like the hurricane that was on the weather?01:42
DaskreechYep01:42
DaskreechIt's live weather01:42
Daskreech Then we dropped it back onto being the wallpaper while we did the rest of the presentation01:42
JMichaelXDaskreech: it would be awesome if that show/segment were available to download01:43
JMichaelXvery cool01:43
DaskreechIt was funny watching him go speechless under the layers of awesome he just saw from one application01:43
JMichaelXfrom an OS world that was possibly pretty obscure to him01:43
Daskreechan OS world?01:44
JMichaelXthe world of GNU/FOSS01:44
DaskreechWell he asked us to come on to speak about Linux for 15 minutes01:45
ybitreally, the last time i say this on #kubuntu01:45
JMichaelXok01:45
DaskreechSo we blinged out a MacBook with Kubuntu01:45
ybit#kde-usa if you are located in the states, time to organize! :)01:45
Daskreech!ca01:46
ubottuCanadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca aussi #ubuntu-qc01:46
ybit:)01:46
ybitvery nice01:46
Daskreechybit, Would you like to be part of the KDE USA collective?01:46
DaskreechWell NA01:46
ybitthere's a collective i'm unaware?01:46
ybitof*01:46
Daskreechybit, There is01:46
ybityou betcha01:46
ybitisn't jeff over that?01:46
JMichaelXdoes said collective live communally?01:47
JMichaelXby any chance01:47
ybiti'm not opposed to that01:47
JMichaelXlol01:47
ybitif it's in opensourceecology.org style01:47
JMichaelXi'd never seen that site before, ty01:48
Daskreechybit, you mean jefferai?01:54
ybitDaskreech: yep01:55
DaskreechYeah I guess he's part of the core :)01:55
ybitDaskreech: okay, let him know i'm interested in the NA collecteive for me :P01:58
Daskreechybit, You cna just sign up01:58
DaskreechMoment let me get the links02:00
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Daskreechybit, Bah I can't find the link right now but you can sign up https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/campkde-participants to get in touch02:15
ybitDaskreech: camp kde is dead now, right?02:17
Daskreechybit, Ha umm. lets say it's transmorgified02:17
DaskreechIt's become smaller and more portable02:17
ybit11:34 < Mek> lfnw? (and wasn't camp kde abandoned for smaller more local kde things co-hosted with other events, like kde cascadia co-hosted with lfnw?)02:18
ybittransmorgified... :)02:18
ybiti don't understand, but okay02:18
DaskreechRight. So the smaller more local things are the KDE camps02:18
* ybit is wondering how many devs there are in the NA and how many would be willing to get together for a sprint02:18
Daskreech(Camp KDE It's portable! Get it?)02:18
ybiti would get it if the name was Tent KDE02:19
Daskreechthe singular KDE event will be readjusted to fit better with KDE and with NA02:19
DaskreechCamps are not normally meant to be permanent :)02:19
Daskreechybit, A fair number. The getting together part is harder and that's why we need some more hands on board to help organize02:20
ybitthat's the idea...02:20
ybitit's why i keep spamming in here looking for people in the states02:20
ybitat one point there were ~15 idling in #kde-usa02:21
ybiti know there's more than 15 US kde users :)02:21
ybiti'm a bit more unsure about the number of devs02:21
Daskreechhttps://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usa02:22
Daskreech:-p02:22
DaskreechWell users become devs :)02:23
uberdubIm loyal a kde user. Quite a few years now. :)02:27
DaskreechHI Loyal. I'm Hungry02:27
Daskreech;-)02:28
uberdublol. Didnt know you could eat bytes.02:28
DaskreechWelcome to KDE!02:28
uberdubKDE rawks dude.02:28
uberdubIve tried gnome, and xfce, etc....meh KDE rulez!02:28
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kazagistarI just installed kubuntu desktop in ubuntu, but my sound control is not working02:32
Daskreechkazagistar, anything beyond "not working" ?02:38
ybitre: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/campkde-participants/02:38
ybithah!02:38
ybitlast activity: January 2009 :(02:38
ybituberdub: where are you from? :)02:39
uberdubCurrently Phoenix02:39
Daskreechkazagistar, there?02:47
kazagistarDaskreech: yeah, sorry02:47
kazagistarDaskreech: the sound is working, but I cant change volume02:47
kazagistarDaskreech: when I try, it shows volume change, but nothing happens02:48
Daskreechkazagistar, Can you open your mixer from kmix?02:48
kazagistark, I opened kmix02:48
kazagistaroh, I see, if I change the OTHER bar in kmix, I can alter volume02:49
kazagistarbut the default one that is changed by keybinds and the overlay does nothing02:50
almoxarifekazagistar: is the 'default' the 'master' slide?02:51
Daskreechkazagistar, you can change the default to which ever one you would like03:09
DaskreechIf you haven't already03:09
kazagistarI cant see a default selection03:12
DaskreechIt's umm in one of the top level menus I think03:15
kazagistarthanks bro03:17
Daskreechkazagistar, Got it?03:19
kazagistarDaskreech: yep03:19
Daskreechkazagistar, Great :)03:19
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pawleeqHello08:12
Daskreechhi08:18
pawleeqI have Genius MousePen 8x6, which was working pretty well, but after some updates (i havent been using it for a few weeks) it dos not work at all and it is not event listed in lsusb output, any clue pls?08:23
Daskreechpawleeq, not worknig at all means not moving the cursour?08:37
pawleeqDaskreech: yes08:39
pawleeqDaskreech: although the tablet itself seems to work fine, the green light turn on, when pen touches the pad...08:40
Daskreechpawleeq, Hmm nothing at all when you plug it in?08:47
pawleeqDaskreech: noe08:47
pawleeqnope08:47
Daskreechpawleeq, were you monitoring udev when you plugged it in08:50
pawleeqno, how do I do that?08:51
pawleeqDaskreech: I run "sudo udevadm monitor" and plug the tablet in and out several times, but it does not print anything at all08:56
pawleeq(it does when I try it woth anoher USB devices)08:56
DaskreechOh08:57
Daskreechhmm08:57
DaskreechYou did an upgrade you said?08:57
pnunnHas anyone out here managed to get find in message working in this steaming piece of crap called kmail2?  I can't get it to find anything.09:12
Tm_Tpnunn: I would kindly ask you to be more respective with your choice of words (;09:30
pnunnBelive me Tm_T that is respectful.. this is the WORST piece of software ever attempted on man (makes M$ look good).09:31
Tm_Tpnunn: as you wish09:31
gotzoneg0197209:35
pnunnIs anyone else even using kmail any more?09:40
Tm_TI am, daily09:46
pnunnTm_T do you have it going offline constantly? Forgetting the stored passwords for SMTP servers? Not being able to search an email?09:49
Tm_Tpnunn: none of those problems09:55
pnunnTim_T are you using IMAP?10:13
Tm_Tpnunn: who is Tim? (: (and yes, I do use IMAP, with D actually)10:27
Spartan29hello folk!10:30
pnunnlol sorry Tm_T my mistake.. how about google? Anything there?10:43
Tm_Tpnunn: yes, I use google's imap (too)10:46
pnunnTm_T I don't get it. I've struggeld with this on two different distros now (Mageia and now Kubuntu) in both cases Kmail2 has been the worst part of the systems and I'm still having issues where I have to restart akonadi many many times a day.10:47
pnunnI'm using imapd to a courier mail server, google for contacts and calendar..10:48
Tm_Tall works just fine here10:48
pnunnI'm really pleased for you (but sad for me.. lol).10:48
Spartan29Since last week when i updated kde via PPA to 4.8.1 i see that some effects doesen't work anymore, i.e. when i click shut (this effect is checked and enabled in desktop effects) the desktop don't fade to desaturize.... Anyone knows why?11:07
bunzI've been having problems with updating my system over a satellite link. I seems that most of the repos don't play too sell with high latency connections . Can anyone suggest one that work OK with satellite? It's been suggested to me that there are a few.11:20
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johnHello11:42
johnI am using Kubuntu 11.10 and added the PPA of Kubuntu 4.811:43
johnNow when I start dolphin, I see this error:11:43
johndolphin: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libdolphinprivate.so.4: cannot read file data: Error 2111:43
johnseems new, theere is no reference on google of this error11:43
mischasworldhello12:22
falstafHello12:22
mischasworldI recently updated to precise kubuntu beta, suspend to ram via settings in kde settings is not working, if i call pm-suspend via sudo its working any iedas to fix this?12:22
hateballmischasworld: I'd ask in #kubuntu+112:23
mischasworldthanks12:23
almoxarifemischasworld: I have sort of the same problem, I can suspend, can't hibernate12:25
mischasworldalmoxarife: i moved to my question to #ubuntu+1 perhaps we can solve it there12:26
BluesKajhi all12:28
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shadeslayerDoctorPepper: ping14:11
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georgelappies___hi all, where can I get a list comparing the changes in kubuntu 11.10 to kubuntu 12.04?14:41
genii-aroundgeorgelappies___: There is no such comparison list as such.14:44
genii-aroundgeorgelappies___: However, you can find all the changes made in 12.04 at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Precise-changes ( at the top is a link to all the prior postings )14:46
pawelerohi, I just read this blog post: http://blogs.kde.org/node/454714:47
Riddellpawelero: nice to have a reader :)14:48
paweleroit will be great if Kubuntu will get different name, it's the best distribution I've ever used and I want it to be as revelance as possible :)14:48
Riddellsuggestions welcome14:48
paweleroRiddell: I bet there are many more readers, but only KDE contributors can make comments on that blog14:49
genii-aroundK-Ultra14:49
Riddellpawelero: it accepts open ID so anything with a launchpad or google or yahoo account can14:50
BluesKajthose dumb names are the only drawback...why choose obscure animals ..i don't get it14:50
paweleromaybe some topic at kubuntu forums about the new name and then make some poll?14:50
paweleroRiddell: thanks, I'll remember that14:50
BluesKajprecise pangolin ...really how can a pangolin be 'precise"..precise about what ? :)14:51
paweleroBluesKaj: it's not that bad, ever heard of Beffy miracle? ;)14:52
DarthFrogWhat's obscure about a pangolin?14:52
BluesKajpawelero,  nope and I really don't care :)14:53
pawelerobeefy*14:53
genii-aroundRiddell: Are there any articles as to Canonical's reasoning?14:53
BluesKajDarthFrog,  we obviously have different inrerests , lets leave it at that :)14:54
BluesKajerr  interests :)14:54
Riddellgenii-around: nope although this has a simplied fragment of conversation http://ploum.net/post/what-if-ubuntu-were-right14:55
DarthFrogThe next letter is Q.  The Quiet Quagga? The Quixotic something or other?14:55
genii-aroundRiddell: Thanks !14:56
genii-aroundNow I have a lot of questions to ask about this and no idea where to go for answers. Bleh15:01
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genii-aroundRiddell: Would kubuntu-users mailing list be the appropriate place to keep posted as whats happening with this issue?15:04
Riddellgenii-around: probably not, I don't read that much15:04
Riddellkubuntu-devel probably better15:05
BluesKajwell stuff to do for a couple hrs, BBL15:05
LINKSWORD2Hey, BluesKaj15:06
LINKSWORD2Or can I just call ya Blue? :P15:07
LINKSWORD2Darkwing: Long time, no see.15:07
genii-aroundRiddell: Ok, thanks. Sorry to be a pest. I'd have carried on the conversation in -offopic if you were in there :)15:09
LINKSWORD2Hello, claydoh15:10
LINKSWORD2Well, shoot. I know a lot of you. BluesKaj, claydoh, Cueball, Darkwing, eristikophiles... Hello to you all.15:12
LINKSWORD2If I forgot any of you, it's because there's a LONG list of people in here.15:12
pawelerowhen comes to a new name I'd vote for KDE OS ;)15:18
Riddellpawelero: that would be nice but large parts of KDE would get annoyed15:20
LINKSWORD2Plus, Kubuntu is still based off of Ubuntu as the root platform...15:21
LINKSWORD2In fact, Kubuntu is *K*de-Ubuntu.15:21
paweleroRiddell: I know, some people from OpenSUSE will be angry ;)15:21
paweleroso maybe Ubuntu KDE?15:21
LINKSWORD2That's pointless, because it comes back to saying the same thing.15:22
LINKSWORD2And as annoying as this may sound, this side of the conversation is better done in #kubuntu-offtopic15:22
paweleroLINKSWORD2: but it will give many more results in google when you type Ubuntu :)15:23
LINKSWORD2pawelero: Surprisingly, you get just as many for Kubuntu.15:23
LINKSWORD2Now, again. #kubuntu-offtopic15:23
genii-aroundLINKSWORD2: I do agree that it is not strictly a support conversation15:24
Riddellpawelero: that name has two trademarks in it15:24
LINKSWORD2Riddell: Not to be a thorn in the side, but this is more of an off-topic conversation. #kubuntu-offtopic15:25
ikoniaRiddell: very very well written post15:27
ikoniaRiddell: (as in blog post)15:27
oratedHi! Kubuntu 11.10 KDE 4.8.1. I still face issues with dolphin when the network connection for ssh/nfs/nas is closed. When the server system is shut down, then the file manager with which it was accessed hangs. I came for the same issue probably a month ago and was suggested to upgrade to 4.8.1. It sill fails... can anyone guide me how to fix it?15:27
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genii-aroundorated: Have you searched on Launchpad for bug reports with the same symptoms, or reported this as a bug there?15:36
oratedkilling PID for dolphin helped a little. Now, if I open it from terminal - http://pastebin.com/YWkeJvac and PrntScr cannot save the file to be uploaded but its all grey with a black  strip at top15:37
oratedno, not yet15:37
oratedI'm trying to understand the reason why its happening first15:37
oratedIts very likely related to Networks option in Dolphin15:37
oratedhttp://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9746315:44
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kbroulikis there a way to resolve depenendy issues? it spits out like 10 packages that cannot be installed because of that :( one package requires a newer version but an older one is installed, and that older version needs a newer one … a great cycle16:12
fdovingkbroulik: can you pastebin the error?16:20
kbrouliksure. but it is in german :)16:20
kbroulikfdoving: http://paste.kde.org/44410416:20
georgelappies___genii-around: Thank you :)16:21
fdovingkbroulik: what does 'sudo apt-get -f install' suggest?16:23
fdovingkbroulik: did you add any new repositories lately?16:23
kbroulikfdoving: I already tried that it fails with a lot of missing dependendies as well16:23
kbroulikfdoving: I guess I did a few weeks ago, and I also have that problem for weeks now but I just left it but now I want to install a new package and it wouldnt let me16:24
fdovingkbroulik: can you pastebin the result from 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?16:26
kbroulikfdoving: http://paste.kde.org/444122 here you go :)16:27
kbroulikre16:33
Roastedhi, kind of a dumb question. In Ubuntu, there's Startup Applications. Is that a Gnome thing, or an Ubuntu thing? I'm curious if it exists in KDE land as well.16:33
kbroulikRoasted: Startup APplications?16:36
kbroulikyou mean, a frontend to configure which programs/services should be started automatically?16:36
Roastedkbroulik, yes16:36
Roastedkbroulik, I have it here but I'm on regular Ubuntu/Gnome Shell. I wasn'ts ure if tha was a Gnome thing or not.16:36
kbroulikRoasted: in KDE this is System Settings → Startup & Shutdown (or so) → Autostart16:36
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Roastedkbroulik, ah, so it's not DE specific.16:36
kbroulikthe thing I pointed to is a KDE-own thing, it's not the exact thing you talk about :)16:37
Roastedthanks much kbroulik :)16:37
Roastedoh?16:37
kbrouliki.e. it is not shared between DE but KDE has a similar thing16:37
Roastedahh okay16:37
Roastedso it's not identical, but it's pretty much thesamedarnthing ??16:37
kbroulikI don't know that "Startup Applications" :) but I guess both manage services and applications that autostart? ^^16:37
Roastedkbroulik, pretty much. On Ubuntu, I have an rsync command in startup applications, because you can put in your own command.16:38
Roastedkbroulik, that way it runs when I log in and my home dir syncs to file server over ssh. It's beautiful.16:38
kbroulikyou can do that as well on KDE16:38
Roastedkbroulik, perfect!16:38
Roastedthanks much16:38
yofelStartup Applications is a gnome thing, they just mesh applications and services into the same UI16:38
RoastedI fired up a google image search of the kde startup apps, looks relatively similar16:39
Roastedsame idea/principle at least.16:39
Roasted(still waiting for the ISO to complete)16:39
yofeland while the UI is different, you're configuring mostly the same thing in KDE too16:39
Roastednice16:39
Roastednow, that makes me wonder if LXDE has it, as that'll be another box on my LAN... time for the magical Google...16:39
kbroulikyeah I guess those .desktop files are placed in XDG spots and so you actually edit the same exact files :)16:39
Roastedlast post @ Dec 2010 suggests they may have it too - http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=11116:40
Roastednice16:40
Roastedthanks fellas16:40
fdovingkbroulik: what does 'apt-cache policy lib32gcc1' return? - pastebin please.16:42
kbroulikfdoving: http://paste.kde.org/44416416:44
fdovingkbroulik: what if you try: 'sudo aptitude remove cpp cpp-4.6 g++ g++-4.6 gcc gcc-4.6 gtk2-engines-pixbuf lib32asound2 lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++6 libc6-dbg libc6-i386 libgail-common libgfortran3 libquadmath0 libstdc++6-4.6-dev'16:51
fdovingkbroulik: does it suggest to remove any other packages that the ones listed?16:51
fdovings/that/than/16:52
kbroulikI dont have aptitude installed :) and it wouldnt let me16:52
kbroulikbut apt-get should be fine?16:52
kbroulikfdoving: then it claims that arduino-core, dkms, g++, gtk2-engines-pixbuf, lib32nss-mdns, lib32z1, libgail-common:i386, libidl-common, liblapack3gf, skype, teamviewer6, x11-apps, x11-session-utils and x11-xserver-utils have unmet dependencies16:54
fdovingkbroulik: and if you do apt-get -f install again?16:57
kbroulikfdoving: I think the same exact thing as before16:57
fdovingkbroulik: tried to run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get -f install' ? if you did add/remove any sources to your sources.list lately it is probably the reason.17:00
kbroulikfdoving: I run that apt-get update regularly and yet I still got the same thing :(17:01
fdovingkbroulik: it won't help if your /etc/apt/sources.list is incomplete somehow. or if you've mixed releases or added/removed backports or updates repositories. can you pastebin the result of: grep -Rv ^# /etc/apt/sources.lis*17:05
kbroulikfdoving: http://paste.kde.org/44417017:06
fdovingkbroulik: what does 'apt-cache policy cpp-4.6' return?17:14
sinthetekheya, for some reason my shutdown dialog stopped appearing when i hit ctrl+alt+del17:15
sinthetekany idea what might cause this issue? i think i had it before but can't remember how i fixed it17:15
sinthetekit appears to be set in the kde keybindings configuration17:18
sinthetekscreen also won't lock when i close17:28
sinthetekthe lid17:28
kbroulikfdoving: http://paste.kde.org/44418817:32
kbrouliksinthetek: I think that screenlock thing is configured in Screensaver settings, check the "Lock after xx minutes" thing and so it will autolock, but not sure17:33
* chalcedony smiles17:55
fdovingkbroulik: i would suggest trying to change to another mirror. or the main archive server, then run apt-get update and apt-get -f install to see if it helps. seems gcc/cpp/g++ got halfway-upgraded to 4.6.3, while some of the packages remain at 4.6.2.17:56
kbroulikfdoving: okay, I will try that. many thanks for your patience :)17:57
fdovingkbroulik: i don't run precise, so i don't know in which state the archives are at the moment. it might be broken for all i know.17:57
kbroulikfdoving: I am running precise on my main machine and another pc as well and those don't show that symptoms :)17:57
kbroulikfdoving: choosing another server didnt help18:13
fdovingkbroulik: is this amd64?18:20
kbroulikyes18:20
fdovingkbroulik: you can try this, before manually fetching the debs one by one, http://paste.kde.org/444248/18:38
kbroulikfdoving: ah, so I can specify a version with the equal sign?18:38
fdovingkbroulik: yeah, if they are available in multiple versions, you can check with apt-cache policy <packagename>18:39
kbroulikfdoving: good to know :)18:39
fdovingkbroulik: the trick is that you need to get them all right at once, for apt to figure out the dependencies.18:39
fdovingkbroulik: if all apt foo fails, you can manually fetch the .debs from packages.ubuntu.com in the correct versions, place them in a directory and run 'dpkg -i *.deb'18:41
kbroulikfdoving: hmm so except for libstdc++ it always says "version xxx for package yyy not found"18:42
fdovingkbroulik: what? - check with 'apt-cache policy cpp' - if they can't be found something is broken in the sources.list or the available lists.18:44
__dan__soooo im on 11.10 with a few ppa's and stuff18:51
__dan__gonna dist-upgrade i think18:51
__dan__any tips before i risk it? :)18:51
__dan__other than make a backup hehe18:51
kbroulikfdoving: hooray, so I Manually downloaded and installed the 10 packages that were "corrupt"; and not did an upgrade and now it offered me to upgrade the cpp, gcc and g++ and now everything is fine, no more error messages :)18:51
kbroulikthanks thanks thanks :)18:52
tsimpson__dan__: expect things to explode, then you won't be disappointed18:52
__dan__heheh18:52
fdovingkbroulik: great :)18:52
__dan__ok, so whats the approved upgrade method then, start dist-upgrade and throw ur machine outside18:53
__dan__hope it doesnt make a crater in ur back yard?18:53
__dan__hehe18:53
__dan__at what point should i go over to it and see if its done?18:53
* __dan__ assumes standard firework safety applies?18:54
__dan__heheh18:54
tsimpson__dan__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu18:55
__dan__yeah dude thx18:56
__dan__any tips?18:56
__dan__oh yeah also should i remove my ppa's before upgrade?18:56
tsimpsonthe upgrade tool will do that for you18:56
__dan__cant remember whether i did that for 11.04 -> 11.1018:56
__dan__awesome :)18:56
tsimpsonI would offer advice, but no one ever takes it :)18:57
__dan__right then i think its time to see if u guys REALLY amaroK18:57
__dan__hehe :)18:57
__dan__hey man thats why i'm here18:57
tsimpsonif I did offer any, it would be to use a virtual machine or chroot, but you're probably not going to do that, are you?18:57
__dan__um18:57
__dan__no18:57
__dan__heheh18:57
__dan__:)18:57
tsimpsonsee18:57
FloodBotK1__dan__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:57
BluesKaj__dan__,  if you use the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade , then remove the ppas from  /etc/apt/sources.list.d18:57
__dan__ah i will do it the gui way thanks BluesKaj18:58
tsimpsonthe GUI tool actually runs do-release-upgrade, it just adds a shiny GUI for it18:58
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__dan__mmmmmmm shiny :)18:58
BluesKaj__dan__,  ok ,...shiny is for crows :)18:58
__dan__ah i prefer to use the shiny on kubuntu18:59
__dan__if i want cli i will fire up debian :)18:59
BluesKajyeah , __dan__ that's your option18:59
__dan__+ better to test the way most users will be doing it18:59
__dan__in case it turns my laptop into a steaming pile of slag i might be able to pull some logs off it for u guys haha19:00
BluesKaj12.04, kde 4.8.1 here , all terminal ...runs fine19:00
__dan__awesome :) i should be joining you shortly ... looking forward to kde 4.819:01
__dan__just gonna run deja-dup quick haha :)19:01
__dan__oh yeah one more thing19:01
__dan__sorry ... is btrfs default in 12.04 now?19:01
tsimpson__dan__: lord no19:03
tsimpsonI know it's a development release, but not _that_ much19:04
__dan__well i thought that may be a little bold for an LTS, a friend said it was tho19:04
__dan__i will inform him of his error haha :)19:04
__dan__thanks guys19:05
tsimpsonyou can choose it when installing, but it's not default19:05
__dan__nooo man haha19:05
tsimpsonand an upgrade certainly isn't going to format your disks ;)19:05
__dan__no i know i was considering a reinstall if btrfs was going default19:05
__dan__maybe for 12.10 :)19:06
__dan__thanks for all ur help19:06
tsimpsonbtrfs is still under heavy development, would be insane to make it the default for 5 years19:06
__dan__i will be back later tonight saying "yay it worked" or tomorrow saying "ahhhh my laptop exploded" wish me luck ;)19:06
__dan__indeed hehe19:06
__dan__cya tsimpson & BluesKaj thx :)19:07
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BluesKajwhat advantages will btrfs have over ext ?19:07
Merlyn-Korr#kubuntu-offtopic19:09
tsimpsonBluesKaj: mostly it's improves how RAID is done, not much in it for single-disk systems19:09
BluesKajok tsimpson , thanks ..using an esata outboard drive for multimedia already , no raid requirement here19:11
Bundestrojanergood evening19:31
Bundestrojanerhow can i change the keyboard-layout in kubuntu 11.10_19:32
Bundestrojanerthe google-hits are not correct, so it must have changed19:32
BluesKajBundestrojaner,  system settings>input devices>keyboard layouts tab19:34
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: I only see keyboard-modells19:36
Bundestrojaneroh, a tab19:36
Bundestrojanerthere is no keyboard layout-tab oO19:37
Bundestrojanerit worked before19:37
Bundestrojanerbut mz package-manager freezed during updating19:38
Bundestrojanerso i killed the process19:38
Bundestrojaneri try rebooting again19:38
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jalcineIs anyone willing to help me test a speech-related application? It's at https://launchpad.net/speechcontrol.20:38
jalcineC'mon guys, don't be shy :)20:41
rtdoshow do i get automatic updates to quit asking for my password?21:07
daskreechadd the updater as a list of the binaries that respect sudo nopasswd ?21:12
rtdoshow do i do that?21:17
daskreechhttp://www.ducea.com/2006/06/18/linux-tips-password-usage-in-sudo-passwd-nopasswd/21:23
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rtdosthx.21:27
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ricky1966Hi everybody, i've a hp Officejet, with a print server 4 port network usb hub from digitus. how can i setup  all for make a lan printer ?21:59
markusI have the same. Have a JetDirect Printserver. Just connected the printer and the computers found it on the network22:08
rtdosam having a problem loading (and closing) apps on kubuntu: some (most) apps seem to take awhile to either load or shutdown. like there is something running in the background or waiting for something to close. i ran all the necessary tests, including fsck and still have this issue.22:17
ricky1966markus I don't know if the printserver is jetDirect, i look on the site. tks, I go to sleep i try tomorrow22:21
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brad_help me troubleshoot, I;m trying to sign into my university's wifi, usually, whenusing a browser on a windows pc, the first page to open with the browser is a login/password page. when i open firefox or rekonq on my new distro, the browser doesn't get reedirected to this page as usual, and im not able to access wifi.... ideas?22:37
asfyxiabrad_, do you have a dual-boot pc?22:39
brad_no, I'm wired into the internet now, reading some forums about this. but no, linux is the only os on here22:40
JMichaelX_workbrad_: i probably do not have the answer, but i have attended some classes at a certain community college, where i had to turn off zeroconf in order to use their network22:42
JMichaelX_workbrad_: it might be worth trying: 'sudo service avahi-daemon stop'22:43
asfyxiabrad_ , okay, I thought I had an idea but I was wrong in the set-up of your connection22:43
brad_ill try that script22:44
JMichaelX_workyou may then need to close your browser, then open it again22:44
JMichaelX_workbrad__: any success?22:52
brad__got disconnected,  it worked, hell yea...22:55
brad__thanks guys, is avahi-daemon looking for printers/crap on the network or something?22:55
JMichaelX_workbrad__: awesome!22:56
JMichaelX_workbrad__: not too sure what all zeroconf does, but yes, i think that is part of it22:56
JMichaelX_workbrad__: for myself, it is something i do not believe i need very badly in most cases... you can test things for yourself, but you might just be able to disable zeroconf altogether, and be fine22:57
JMichaelX_workbrad__: i *think* 'sudo update-rc.d avahi-daemon remove' might do that for you (if not, it would likely be something similar)22:59
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brad__ok cool thanks23:02
JMichaelX_workbrad__: you could then always add it back, if it turns out you need it after all23:03
brad__if i write the script, cmd tells me to use -f to force, havent even done that... think i should just leave it alone?23:04
brad__*ever done23:04
JMichaelX_worki dunno, i would say go ahead and use -f.... but, if you are worried, yu can just leave it alone23:05
brad__gotchya, just didnt know how serious "force" was to be taken, never applied it to something before, kinda over reacting here, lol23:05
brad__hmm. tried it, cmd says the disable/enable API is not stable and might change in the future.23:08
brad__can i just use a scipt to check if it's there/enabled now?23:08
rtdosam having a problem loading (and closing) apps on kubuntu: some (most) apps seem to take awhile to either load or shutdown. like there is something running in the background or waiting for something to close. i ran all the necessary tests, including fsck and still have this issue.23:13
brad__ummm, another thing, my buddy wants to get an Alienware laptop...... and run linux on it?? what do I need to tell this kid, he's reading this..23:15
JMichaelX_workbrad__: no real idea... bt if want to run linux, you need to confirm compatibility before you buy23:18
DarthFrogAlienware machines are high-performance machines, designed for gamers.  And have a price tag to match.23:19
brad__that's for sure23:19
DarthFrogI wouldn't call Linux a gamer's OS, though.23:19
brad__that's what i thought23:19
DarthFrogUnless he needs a high performance laptop, it would seem to me that he's over-buying.  Not that there's anything wrong with that if you've got the budget for it. :-)23:20
brad__anybody have an RTS they'd recommend?23:23
szalRTS?23:30

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