[10:49] <hosoka> hello all
[10:49] <hosoka> hello Chris
[10:50] <hosoka> what is the difference between the mimimal desktop Lubuntu and the lubuntu core ?
[10:50] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha hosoka
[10:50] <hosoka> I would like to have the lubuntu system without the hassle of lots of programs comes along with it.
[10:50] <hosoka> Goedemorgen Chris
[10:51] <hosoka> can anyone give me an advise from this.
[10:51] <MrChrisDruif> hosoka; if you want to know, I DID put the links to the different packages on the minimal install page
[10:51] <hosoka> I saw that one Chris
[10:52] <hosoka> I noticed that the mimimal desktop comes along with lots of programs that I dont need
[10:52] <hosoka> I was at the minimal lubuntu wiki
[10:52] <MrChrisDruif> This one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[10:52] <hosoka> so what i needed to do was manually removing the programs.
[10:52] <hosoka> yes
[10:53] <hosoka> the minimal install still provides programs that are not necessary. e.g. Osmo, Mtpaint etc.
[10:53] <hosoka> will be right back, 5 min away. Let me hear your advise
[10:54] <hosoka> would it be that the Lubuntu core would be ideal then ?
[10:56] <MrChrisDruif> hosoka; in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Full_install_or_core_install.3F section are links to the lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-core packages in 10.10 till 11.10. In there you can see which packages are DEPENDENT (which get installed no matter what if you select it) and which are RECOMMENDED which you can turn off or on by adding the  --no-install-recommends option to it
[10:59] <MrChrisDruif> I hope that makes any sense
[11:00] <MrChrisDruif> P.s.: don't single down someone to help you, just ask your question and have some patience that someone knows the answer and will respond
[11:14] <hosoka> ok, thanks Chris
[12:10] <i7c> if i install lubuntu on the same hard drive like windows7, will it automatically install GRUB correctly so that i can start both OS?
[12:11] <Marzata> i7c: you never know
[12:11] <i7c> mhm
[12:14] <i7c> is it supposed to? :P
[12:19] <Jin> hello everyone
[12:19] <Jin> anyone there, i could need some help, i got install problems
[12:20] <Jin> !help
[14:30] <bkm> is `apt-get xfce4-power-manager` equivalent to what should be in lubuntu? or is there a lubuntuized version of the manager/applet/whatever-it-is??
[14:39] <i7c> bkm: afaik it's the same
[14:39] <i7c> lubuntu uses ubuntu packages.
[14:40] <i7c> dpkg --get-selections shows this package so i guess it's installed with apt-get.
[14:41] <bkm> thanks. i cannot imagine why the battery has to get down to 20% before it will suspend the laptop. why not 21%? why not 22%?? aggravating...
[16:41] <mmark> hi
[16:46] <mmark> how can I add a shortcut that's not in the available applications ?
[16:51] <mmark> found it
[16:59] <hosoka> hello all
[16:59] <hosoka> looks quiet here.
[20:23] <tata> I delete ubuntu 11.10 and now I get Lubuntu 10.04 and win xp, so how to get new gnu grub ?
[20:26] <holstein> tata: i would just boot into *buntu and run "sudo update-grub"
[20:27] <holstein> if that doesnt work...
[20:27] <holstein> !grub | tata
[20:27] <tata> no no no...
[20:27] <holstein> there should be "recovering grub" steps
[20:28] <tata> since, I heve lubuntu and win xp and ubuntu11.10
[20:28] <holstein> tata: the second suggestion envolved booting a live CD and "getting a new grub"
[20:28] <holstein> envolves*
[20:29] <tata> now, I delete ubuntu but I have old gnu grub, I need new
[20:29] <MrChrisDruif> tata; I missed your problem, what was it?
[20:30] <holstein> tata: you should see instructions there on how to install from a live CD
[20:31] <tata> ok
[20:31] <tata> but I am new in linux I am not shure
[20:32] <holstein> tata: let us know if you have any problems.. i would read about "recovering grub from a live CD"... i would also repeat your query for MrChrisDruif
[20:33] <hosoka> hello all
[20:34] <tata> ok, now I read recovering
[20:35] <hosoka> I have this situation currently. I have installed the Lubuntu-core with Chromium as browser. Did not wanted to have the full version due to RAM issue. I started with Lubuntu 10.10. Now, if I upgrade to 11.04 will this upgrade only on the Lubuntu-core or everything that comes along with this.
[20:36] <hosoka> It is most my RAM that will slow down my Internet surfing with Chromium.
[20:37] <holstein> i would just go, and remove what you need (if you need) when you get there
[20:38] <hosoka> ok
[20:38] <hosoka> I noticed that the Lubuntu-core also comes with the office package while this was mentioned on the list of Lubuntu-desktop
[20:50] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know where hosoka got the idea that core also shipped with office?
[21:44] <Andrew1977> Hi all :) I installed Skype on my Lubuntu, but I can't find a way to add it on "internet" group of application
[21:45] <Andrew1977> Sorry for this stupid question, but how can I add it there and open it through GUI?
[21:46] <Andrew1977> now the only way I can launch it is from terminal or writing directly "skype" on run application
[21:47] <stlsaint> Andrew1977: it should add automatically
[21:47] <stlsaint> oh wait...nevermind
[21:47] <stlsaint> have you looked at openbox configuration?
[21:47] <Andrew1977> how? :)
[21:48] <hosoka> skype should by default go to Internet group
[21:48] <Andrew1977> openbox, I'm having a look there
[21:49] <Andrew1977> hosoka: Actually I also tried to uninstall and install it again
[21:50] <Andrew1977> it doesn't appear...weird I have this problem on Lubuntu session and not on LXDE session
[21:51] <Andrew1977> stlsaint: I can't find any solution on openbox :(
[21:52] <pcroque> Andrew1977: here's an entry in the FAQ that may help you: http://bit.ly/GE0mjS
[21:53] <Andrew1977> thx, I'll have a look :)
[21:54] <hosoka> Andrew1977: Prob this will be your choice https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_install_Skype
[21:59] <MrChrisDruif> According to this section it should appear under internet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_install_Skype
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> hosoka; you thought lubuntu-core also shipped with office apps or something?
[22:00] <hosoka> hello Chris, yes I did.
[22:00] <hosoka> did the lubuntu-core from mini.iso Lubuntu and noticed that.
[22:01] <hosoka> was not a big deal, but did not found dat on the link you gave me.
[22:01] <hosoka> btw, the How to enable automatic logon in LXDM on the Guide does not work for everybody I noticed. Neither for me which I use GDM instead.
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> hosoka; what doesn't work with it?
[22:02] <hosoka> I will leave now Chris
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> And which version of Lubuntu?
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, ttyl hosoka
[22:02] <hosoka> Lubuntu 10.10 the mini.iso and install it with the Lubuntu-core
[22:03] <hosoka> try it out.
[22:03] <hosoka> will leave now. If someone can assist me how to autologin using the LXDM instead would be a great help.
[22:03] <hosoka> sent me an email.
[22:09]  * MrChrisDruif wonders how someone can email him without email address O_O
[22:35] <nuf0xx> o/
[22:36] <nuf0xx> how can I see if a specific daemon loaded on boot (or is running)
[22:36] <tata> how to put date in panel in lubuntu 10.04?
[22:41] <nuf0xx> nvm --- ps aux | grep >daemon<