djshotglass | http://www.ebay.com/itm/260978920665?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 probably as cheap as it gets eh? | 06:37 |
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Riddell | is there really no mailing list to discuss arm issues on? | 08:16 |
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lilstevie | Riddell, there is launchpad | 09:46 |
Riddell | lilstevie: mm I know, is there a part of launchpad to discuss arm issues? | 09:47 |
lilstevie | arm issues? | 09:48 |
lilstevie | normally it would be issues with x package | 09:48 |
lilstevie | for any supported arch | 09:48 |
Riddell | well that's not the case I have and there are plenty of other instances where it won't be the case | 09:48 |
Riddell | the existance of an ubuntu server arm list proves that | 09:48 |
lilstevie | so say you had an issue with chromium-browser you would comment against that | 09:48 |
Riddell | I don't have an issue with a package | 09:49 |
lilstevie | what kind of issue is it? | 09:49 |
Riddell | one with arm | 09:51 |
Riddell | really I've tried debugging it on irc more than once before, now I need a mailing list | 09:52 |
suihkulokki | ubuntu-server-arm lists appears to have no traffic | 09:52 |
Riddell | two dysfunctional communities does not a functional community make :) | 09:52 |
suihkulokki | I wonder why anyone bothered opening such a limited-scope mailing lsit | 09:53 |
Riddell | suihkulokki: because of people like me who have questions about arm | 10:07 |
suihkulokki | Riddell: seems like you have got off on the wrong foot today | 10:09 |
suihkulokki | I was just wondering why ubuntu-server-arm rather than say ubuntu-arm | 10:09 |
Riddell | suihkulokki: oh I've been battling arm for two or three weeks now :) | 10:10 |
Riddell | suihkulokki: yes renaming it would be very sensible | 10:10 |
suihkulokki | Riddell: meanwhile, I suspect the list doesn't have many readers so I guess your best bet (if indeed you can't pin your problem to a package) is to blog about it :P | 10:12 |
Riddell | done that already :) | 10:12 |
suihkulokki | oh | 10:13 |
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prpplague | GrueMaster: is there a recent "non-unity" ubuntu release for panda? | 15:01 |
ogra_ | ubuntu-server | 15:01 |
GrueMaster | Ubuntu-server. | 15:01 |
prpplague | that uses the gnome2 desktop? | 15:01 |
ogra_ | gnome2 is dead upstream | 15:02 |
ogra_ | ubuntu-server offers you a task selection at the end of the install | 15:02 |
prpplague | ogra_: what does the ubuntu-server edition use instead of unity? | 15:02 |
ogra_ | you can pick other desktops there | 15:02 |
prpplague | ahh | 15:02 |
ogra_ | server by default doesnt us a desktop | 15:02 |
prpplague | ahhh | 15:03 |
ogra_ | but it lets you select one.... | 15:03 |
prpplague | ogra_: ahh ok, i'll have a look | 15:03 |
ogra_ | alternatively install desktop and install another desktop on it | 15:03 |
ogra_ | sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | 15:03 |
ogra_ | or xubuntu-desktop | 15:03 |
prpplague | yea | 15:04 |
prpplague | probably stick to an 11 install.... bummer | 15:04 |
ogra_ | (note, the server install completely runs on serial) | 15:04 |
prpplague | no worries there for me | 15:04 |
ogra_ | sure, just wanted to mention it ... since the desktop one doesnt enable serial at all (after u-boot) | 15:05 |
prpplague | ogra_: are the x86 installs the same? | 15:05 |
ogra_ | no | 15:05 |
ogra_ | well, content wise they are | 15:05 |
ogra_ | the installation is completely different | 15:05 |
prpplague | ogra_: right, that was my vague question, hehe | 15:05 |
ogra_ | right, with 12.04 there is only unity on the desktop images | 15:06 |
ogra_ | though for x86 there are xubuntu,kubuntu and lubuntu images | 15:06 |
prpplague | thats a real shame | 15:06 |
ogra_ | as well as ubuntu-studio and mythbuntu | 15:06 |
ogra_ | why is that a shame ? we always only shipped the default desktop | 15:06 |
prpplague | yea, just unity and i don't get along | 15:07 |
ogra_ | its not like ubuntu changed that much in this regard | 15:07 |
ogra_ | (since CDs didnt magically grow over 800M... ) | 15:07 |
suihkulokki | CDs are a lame excuse on arm where nobody uses CDs :) | 15:08 |
prpplague | ogra_: yea, just the choice of unity is my issue. but that is just me | 15:08 |
ogra_ | suihkulokki, i didnt refer to arm above :) | 15:08 |
ogra_ | prpplague, nah. not just you | 15:08 |
* ogra_ gets along pretty well with unity2d but really bad with unity | 15:08 | |
* prpplague needs to clean his work area | 15:10 | |
rsalveti | ogra_: did you have time to look at the sgx packages? | 18:28 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, no, still busy getting oem-config preseeding to work, they are next on the list though | 18:29 |
rsalveti | ogra_: great, meanwhile I'm trying to fix clutter | 18:29 |
rsalveti | to unblock the arm images | 18:29 |
ogra_ | heh, yeah, i saw | 18:30 |
pbuckley | *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' | 18:32 |
pbuckley | after this mornings apt-get dist-upgrade | 18:32 |
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gildean | pbuckley: close down open terminals and open them up again | 19:27 |
gildean | iirc the error comes from an updated link and is corrected when open terminals are closed and the new version is started | 19:30 |
highvoltage | hi! ubuntu-12.04-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4.img should work on a pandaboard right? | 20:06 |
ogra_ | img.gz ... but yeah | 20:07 |
highvoltage | (I just get a black screen, where it works fine with a 11.10 armel desktop image) | 20:07 |
ogra_ | do you know what board revision you have there ? | 20:08 |
ogra_ | we deinitely tested on panda ES and panda A1 and A2 | 20:08 |
highvoltage | Pandaboard ES | 20:08 |
ogra_ | did you try the "other" HDMI port ? :) | 20:09 |
ogra_ | iirc the graphics driver changed, might be that you need to use the DVI port now | 20:09 |
highvoltage | it's on the one marked DVI (since I'm susing it with a DVI adaptor) | 20:09 |
highvoltage | let me try the other one... | 20:09 |
GrueMaster | ogra_: No, hdmi port (closest to the USB/Mic ports) should be fine. | 20:09 |
GrueMaster | That would be it. Switch ports. | 20:10 |
GrueMaster | Only diff is that the HDMI port is dvi-0 and has digital audio signals. | 20:10 |
highvoltage | indeed, I switched to the other one and it works :) | 20:10 |
GrueMaster | Excellent. | 20:11 |
highvoltage | with 11.10 it only worked on the other one. | 20:11 |
* highvoltage wonders if update-manager can plug out a cable and plug it into another port :p | 20:12 | |
ogra_ | highvoltage, sure, but you need to buy the HW extension in the canonical shop | 20:13 |
highvoltage | I'll look out for it! I hope it has unnecessaryly elaborate robotic arms | 20:14 |
ogra_ | it comes with a free bumper sticker even ! | 20:14 |
* highvoltage is afraid to ask what it says | 20:14 | |
* ogra_ isnt that creative anymore after a 11h day (that still has 2h to go) | 20:15 | |
highvoltage | (same here, I was close to getting to a "I ♥..." something about sabdfl but my brain can't formulate funny anymore | 20:16 |
highvoltage | (at least it can still do unicode) | 20:16 |
ogra_ | heh, more than i can :) | 20:16 |
highvoltage | what's in the server image that makes it so much bigger than the desktop one? | 20:33 |
GrueMaster | Lots of preseeded packages for server installation. | 20:34 |
GrueMaster | So that you don't need to install them from the net. | 20:34 |
GrueMaster | (in theory) | 20:35 |
highvoltage | ah | 20:36 |
pbuckley | its to bad in unity when you click the ubuntu logo in the upper left hand corner and you get that black search box pop up that when i type in a url like afp://bobs_fileshare/jokes or smb://janes/pics it doesnt take me to the network file share.. | 20:42 |
highvoltage | ogra_: when I do an apt-get autoremove after my pandaboard is installed, it removes dpkg-repack, apt-clone, libdebian-installer4 and a few other things that doesn't quite seem like they belong in the final installation | 20:57 |
highvoltage | ogra_: am I mistaken or should I file a bug for that? | 20:57 |
ogra_ | yeah, file a bug | 20:57 |
dannf | infinity: my f-k branch is now updated w/ f-k-i changes for highbank | 23:00 |
zma | How to get usb networking on Ubuntu 11.10? If I try ordinary steps, I get error that there is no such interface as usb0. | 23:25 |
zma | By ordinary I mean I make sure modules cdc_ether and usbnet are loaded, make entry to /etc/network/interfaces for usb0 and then /etc/init.d/networking restart | 23:27 |
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