[06:37] http://www.ebay.com/itm/260978920665?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 probably as cheap as it gets eh? === bivab_away is now known as bivab [08:16] is there really no mailing list to discuss arm issues on? === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [09:46] Riddell, there is launchpad [09:47] lilstevie: mm I know, is there a part of launchpad to discuss arm issues? [09:48] arm issues? [09:48] normally it would be issues with x package [09:48] for any supported arch [09:48] well that's not the case I have and there are plenty of other instances where it won't be the case [09:48] the existance of an ubuntu server arm list proves that [09:48] so say you had an issue with chromium-browser you would comment against that [09:49] I don't have an issue with a package [09:49] what kind of issue is it? [09:51] one with arm [09:52] really I've tried debugging it on irc more than once before, now I need a mailing list [09:52] ubuntu-server-arm lists appears to have no traffic [09:52] two dysfunctional communities does not a functional community make :) [09:53] I wonder why anyone bothered opening such a limited-scope mailing lsit [10:07] suihkulokki: because of people like me who have questions about arm [10:09] Riddell: seems like you have got off on the wrong foot today [10:09] I was just wondering why ubuntu-server-arm rather than say ubuntu-arm [10:10] suihkulokki: oh I've been battling arm for two or three weeks now :) [10:10] suihkulokki: yes renaming it would be very sensible [10:12] Riddell: meanwhile, I suspect the list doesn't have many readers so I guess your best bet (if indeed you can't pin your problem to a package) is to blog about it :P [10:12] done that already :) [10:13] oh === zyga-afk is now known as zyga === yofel_ is now known as yofel === prpplague^2 is now known as prpplague [15:01] GrueMaster: is there a recent "non-unity" ubuntu release for panda? [15:01] ubuntu-server [15:01] Ubuntu-server. [15:01] that uses the gnome2 desktop? [15:02] gnome2 is dead upstream [15:02] ubuntu-server offers you a task selection at the end of the install [15:02] ogra_: what does the ubuntu-server edition use instead of unity? [15:02] you can pick other desktops there [15:02] ahh [15:02] server by default doesnt us a desktop [15:03] ahhh [15:03] but it lets you select one.... [15:03] ogra_: ahh ok, i'll have a look [15:03] alternatively install desktop and install another desktop on it [15:03] sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [15:03] or xubuntu-desktop [15:04] yea [15:04] probably stick to an 11 install.... bummer [15:04] (note, the server install completely runs on serial) [15:04] no worries there for me [15:05] sure, just wanted to mention it ... since the desktop one doesnt enable serial at all (after u-boot) [15:05] ogra_: are the x86 installs the same? [15:05] no [15:05] well, content wise they are [15:05] the installation is completely different [15:05] ogra_: right, that was my vague question, hehe [15:06] right, with 12.04 there is only unity on the desktop images [15:06] though for x86 there are xubuntu,kubuntu and lubuntu images [15:06] thats a real shame [15:06] as well as ubuntu-studio and mythbuntu [15:06] why is that a shame ? we always only shipped the default desktop [15:07] yea, just unity and i don't get along [15:07] its not like ubuntu changed that much in this regard [15:07] (since CDs didnt magically grow over 800M... ) [15:08] CDs are a lame excuse on arm where nobody uses CDs :) [15:08] ogra_: yea, just the choice of unity is my issue. but that is just me [15:08] suihkulokki, i didnt refer to arm above :) [15:08] prpplague, nah. not just you [15:08] * ogra_ gets along pretty well with unity2d but really bad with unity [15:10] * prpplague needs to clean his work area [18:28] ogra_: did you have time to look at the sgx packages? [18:29] rsalveti, no, still busy getting oem-config preseeding to work, they are next on the list though [18:29] ogra_: great, meanwhile I'm trying to fix clutter [18:29] to unblock the arm images [18:30] heh, yeah, i saw [18:32] *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' [18:32] after this mornings apt-get dist-upgrade === calculu5 is now known as calculus [19:27] pbuckley: close down open terminals and open them up again [19:30] iirc the error comes from an updated link and is corrected when open terminals are closed and the new version is started [20:06] hi! ubuntu-12.04-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4.img should work on a pandaboard right? [20:07] img.gz ... but yeah [20:07] (I just get a black screen, where it works fine with a 11.10 armel desktop image) [20:08] do you know what board revision you have there ? [20:08] we deinitely tested on panda ES and panda A1 and A2 [20:08] Pandaboard ES [20:09] did you try the "other" HDMI port ? :) [20:09] iirc the graphics driver changed, might be that you need to use the DVI port now [20:09] it's on the one marked DVI (since I'm susing it with a DVI adaptor) [20:09] let me try the other one... [20:09] ogra_: No, hdmi port (closest to the USB/Mic ports) should be fine. [20:10] That would be it. Switch ports. [20:10] Only diff is that the HDMI port is dvi-0 and has digital audio signals. [20:10] indeed, I switched to the other one and it works :) [20:11] Excellent. [20:11] with 11.10 it only worked on the other one. [20:12] * highvoltage wonders if update-manager can plug out a cable and plug it into another port :p [20:13] highvoltage, sure, but you need to buy the HW extension in the canonical shop [20:14] I'll look out for it! I hope it has unnecessaryly elaborate robotic arms [20:14] it comes with a free bumper sticker even ! [20:14] * highvoltage is afraid to ask what it says [20:15] * ogra_ isnt that creative anymore after a 11h day (that still has 2h to go) [20:16] (same here, I was close to getting to a "I ♥..." something about sabdfl but my brain can't formulate funny anymore [20:16] (at least it can still do unicode) [20:16] heh, more than i can :) [20:33] what's in the server image that makes it so much bigger than the desktop one? [20:34] Lots of preseeded packages for server installation. [20:34] So that you don't need to install them from the net. [20:35] (in theory) [20:36] ah [20:42] its to bad in unity when you click the ubuntu logo in the upper left hand corner and you get that black search box pop up that when i type in a url like afp://bobs_fileshare/jokes or smb://janes/pics it doesnt take me to the network file share.. [20:57] ogra_: when I do an apt-get autoremove after my pandaboard is installed, it removes dpkg-repack, apt-clone, libdebian-installer4 and a few other things that doesn't quite seem like they belong in the final installation [20:57] ogra_: am I mistaken or should I file a bug for that? [20:57] yeah, file a bug [23:00] infinity: my f-k branch is now updated w/ f-k-i changes for highbank [23:25] How to get usb networking on Ubuntu 11.10? If I try ordinary steps, I get error that there is no such interface as usb0. [23:27] By ordinary I mean I make sure modules cdc_ether and usbnet are loaded, make entry to /etc/network/interfaces for usb0 and then /etc/init.d/networking restart