[07:40] <elky> jussi, tsimpson? either of you available to get a bot with bugtracker function into #ubuntu-translators?
[16:27] <bodhi_zazen> can I get some assistance with #ubuntuforums
[16:27] <bodhi_zazen> jdong is the "owner"" of the channel ( +F)
[16:28] <bodhi_zazen> but jdong is MIA , we have not been able to contact him in months, had to replace him on the FC
[16:28] <bodhi_zazen> I would like all active members of the FC - https://launchpad.net/~forum-council/+members
[16:28] <bodhi_zazen> to be able to manage the channel -
[16:28] <bodhi_zazen> manage who has ops (forms staff active on IRC)
[16:29] <bodhi_zazen> set MOTD
[16:29] <bodhi_zazen> etc
[16:29] <bodhi_zazen> We have had times when people are trolling the channel, and we do not have sufficint ops
[16:30]  * Myrtti pokes AlanBell, topyli, funkyHat, Pici 
[16:31] <AlanBell> funkyHat was sorting that one out
[16:31] <bodhi_zazen> Oh, my mistake
[16:31] <bodhi_zazen> Looking at the access list it looks sorted
[16:31] <AlanBell> I thought it was done :)
[16:32] <bodhi_zazen> sorry, another FC member who shall remain nameless *cough s-fox *cough told me it had not been attended to, lol
[16:32] <AlanBell> :)
[16:44] <funkyHat> I emailed him about it as soon as I'd done it... actually I should have emailed the whole council
[16:46] <funkyHat> Ooh... AlanBell are there more ops training sessions running soon?
[16:48] <Myrtti> what, you want me to do mine again? or do you mean something else?
[16:48] <Myrtti> :-P
[17:10] <AlanBell> I think I would like one from LjL :)
[17:10] <AlanBell> a grand tour of the unseen channels
[17:45] <jo-erlend> hey. Is this the right place to get an Ubuntu cloak?
[17:45] <k1l> yep. can you link your launchpad acc, pls?
[17:47] <jo-erlend> https://launchpad.net/~joerlend.schinstad
[17:48] <k1l> ok, then we need to wait for the IRCC to confirm :)  just wait until someone wakes up
[17:50] <jo-erlend> great. Is there anything I have to do?
[17:50] <AlanBell> hi jo-erlend
[17:50] <AlanBell> all looks good to me :)
[17:51] <k1l> nope. we just need someone from the ircc to confirm and some staff to set the cloak if confirmed :)
[17:51] <AlanBell> staff can we have an ubuntu/member/jo-erland cloak for jo-erlend please
[17:51] <jo-erlend> no!
[17:52]  * Myrtti has a look
[17:52] <AlanBell> hmm?
[17:52] <jo-erlend> hehe... please make that ubuntu/member/jo-erlend :)
[17:52] <AlanBell> oh, silly me :)
[17:52] <k1l> some typo :)
[17:52] <jo-erlend> the whole world seems to be of the opinion that I should rather be named jo-erland, but I'm not giving in to pressure! :)
[17:53] <Myrtti> congrats, jo-erlend
[17:53] <jo-erlend> AlanBell, it's a global phenomenon. Whether I'm speaking to someone from Sweden, China or ... I keep getting called jo-erland, for some reason :>
[17:53] <k1l> jo-erlend: dont tell us to not tell you how to spell your name ;p
[17:53] <jo-erlend> Myrtti, thank you.
[17:53] <AlanBell> thanks Myrtti and jo-erl?nd
[17:53] <jo-erlend> k1l, like a friend of mine often say; "shut up when I'm interrupting".
[17:54] <Myrtti> kekekekek
[17:54] <jo-erlend> AlanBell :)
[17:54] <k1l> hehe
[17:56] <jo-erlend> oh, I assumed it would take effect the next time I logged on, but it happened immediately. That's cool. Ironically, I was very angry at those cloaks when I wrote my last IRC client. :)
[17:57] <jo-erlend> thanks.
[22:29] <Effenberg0x0> Hello all, I'm the founder of the U+1 Team (see https://launchpad.net/~U+1 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U+1). I'm looking for some support, as we need to have meetingology and Ubottu set in our channel here (#U+1). Can anyone give a hand with this?
[22:31] <AlanBell> sure, so in #ubuntu+1, isn't that a bit busy?
[22:32] <AlanBell> maybe you should create #ubuntu+1-meetings or something like that
[22:33] <AlanBell> and there should already be a bug bot in +1 and it should have the !info factoids pointing at the precise repos
[22:34] <Effenberg0x0> AlanBell, U+1 is a different team than Ubuntu+1
[22:35] <Effenberg0x0> #U+1 was just registered, a bout 2 weeks ago, when we were approved by the CC and started working with A
[22:35] <Effenberg0x0> oops, A = QA
[22:36] <Effenberg0x0> #U+1 is very low traffic, won't be a support channel (initially), will only be used for meetings of U+1 Team Staff and meetings with Devs/Other Team Leaders/QA Staff.
[22:36] <jussi> Effenberg0x0: you realise #u+1 is not in our namespace?
[22:36] <AlanBell> it isn't in our group registration form
[22:37] <Effenberg0x0> We've been very busy with everything that's going on and just trying to set up everything in time for the QQ cycle. No one is an IRC specialist. We just need to get it working.
[22:37] <Effenberg0x0> How do I proceed? WHere do I fill the Group Registration Form?
[22:37] <AlanBell> ok, basically the channel name should start with #ubuntu-
[22:37] <jussi> Effenberg0x0: we can help you with that, but you need to use a channel beginning with #ubuntu-
[22:38] <k1l> Effenberg0x0: the ircc only manages channels starting with #ubuntu
[22:38] <AlanBell> you can have #ubuntu-u+1 if you like
[22:38] <Effenberg0x0> Ah, I didn't know that.... Hmm, it's kind of weird as the team name is not Ubuntu-U+1 (sound a little redundant). This is absoutely mandatory, I guess?
[22:39] <jussi> and what is wrong with #ubuntu-testing ?
[22:39] <Effenberg0x0> Ubuntu-Testing is yet another group lol
[22:39] <jussi> what is the difference between what you do and they do?
[22:39] <Effenberg0x0> Simple: In the new QA Structure, many teams will join under different names. Some will be deprecated, some will be created.
[22:39] <jussi> ie. their topic is: Welcome to Ubuntu QA and Testing | http://qa.ubuntu.com/ | Currently testing Precise daily images | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[22:40] <Effenberg0x0> U+1 will be responsible not only for testing, but for managing testing-teams under QA
[22:40] <AlanBell> Effenberg0x0: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#primarychannels we are the group contacts for #ubuntu* and #kubuntu* and a few other related namespaces, but lots of other projects use freenode
[22:41] <jussi> Effenberg0x0: so why not use the #ubuntu-testing channel?
[22:42] <AlanBell> Effenberg0x0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList some of our typical channel names
[22:43] <Effenberg0x0> Ok, thanks guys, I appreciate you support. Time is very limited here,  I see I'll have to postpone this and delegate IRC management to someone else and add my request for infrastructure directly top-down. Thanks.
[22:43] <jussi> I think this is a very useful link here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelNaming
[22:43] <AlanBell> ok, I might have a chat with balloons about it
[22:44] <Effenberg0x0> Yeah, please, he's the mastermind behind all of it (which is why he recommended talking to you about setting U+1 channel when we talked earlier today).
[22:50] <Myrtti> I'm more than a little confused about this whole thing
[22:51] <AlanBell> I have asked balloons to pop in and have a chat about it
[22:51] <popey> +1
[22:52] <Effenberg0x0> Thanks
[22:52] <Effenberg0x0> He's away right now
[22:52] <Effenberg0x0> :\
[22:53] <pangolin> Effenberg0x0, may I ask why such a cryptic channel name?
[22:54] <Effenberg0x0> Pangolin: Because that's the team name as you can see at launchpad.net/~U+1, wiki.ubuntu.com/U+1. It's established and already a working team. All we needed was to set up IRC for a meeting fast.
[22:55] <pangolin> I see
[22:55] <Effenberg0x0> I have registered the channel (#U+1) and our members already have been communicated about it, but in order to properly have the meeting, we needed those bots. I'm trying to get someone else from the team now to step in as the team IRC Manager
[22:56] <Effenberg0x0> It's not my area of expertise, far from it :)
[22:56] <Myrtti> I wouldn't exactly call something that has been around only a month established, but YMMV
[22:56] <Myrtti> I honestly don't understand why you need bazillion small teams like this when you could do all the things it does within a bigger more experienced team
[22:56] <Myrtti> but oh well
[22:57] <popey> I don't understand why this isn't part of the QA team, but is a separate one.
[22:57] <AlanBell> lets just get the naming sorted and get the bots in the channel, but I don't want to send the bots outside the namespace
[22:58] <Effenberg0x0> Myrtti, Popey, I think it will all become clear soon. Things are changing in the way of becoming more concise and organized right now. Soon there will be a better structure under QA, it's what Nick and everyone else is working on daily.
[22:58] <AlanBell> what the team does and it's relationship to QA etc isn't really an IRC problem
[22:59] <Myrtti> AlanBell: it is in the sense that if it would all happen underneath QA, you wouldn't need to put bots into a new channel.
[22:59] <Myrtti> but hey, I'm only me and all that
[22:59] <popey> AlanBell: sure, but people swoop into irc having never been here before, telling us theres these new teams and then disappear, and we wonder what happened and how it works. Useful to ask people.
[23:00] <popey> AIUI this is a forums thing? so technically no irc channels will be used in anger other than somewhere for the team to have meetings etc
[23:00] <popey> which is what's being requested
[23:00] <Effenberg0x0> @everyone, this is a very alpha and unfinished version. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ProposedTeamStructure This is a blueprint of what it will probably look like: http://i.imgur.com/e4KBu.png
[23:00] <AlanBell> if it is just a meetings channel then it might be best to book time in #ubuntu-meeting then everyone can see what is going on
[23:01] <popey> "All we needed was to set up IRC for a meeting fast"
[23:01] <popey> so yeah, #ubuntu-meeting fits that requirement perfectly
[23:01] <popey> and is already logged, known about etc
[23:01] <pangolin> already has the infrastructure setup
[23:01] <pangolin> yeah, what popey said
[23:01] <Effenberg0x0> Popey, I agree, I'll let someone else handle the IRC part more properly. I'm absolutely ognorant of the IRC rules and procedures.
[23:01] <Effenberg0x0> ognorant=ignorant
[23:01] <AlanBell> Effenberg0x0: you can book meetings here http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ in #ubuntu-meeting
[23:01] <popey> Effenberg0x0: we're just trying to help ☺
[23:02] <popey> Effenberg0x0: there are teams springing up all over the place, and often times it's hard to keep track of whats happening. having meetings in an already established meeting channel makes a lot of sense, and may even get your team more exposure
[23:02] <Effenberg0x0> popey,  I understand :) And all the info hasn't yet been decided and made public, so of course it can be confusing.
[23:02] <popey> which can only be a good thing
[23:03] <AlanBell> lots of global teams use that meeting room so that others can see all the decisions that happen. A few channels that don't need a wider audience (like LoCo team channels) meet in their own channels
[23:03] <Effenberg0x0> AlanBell, Ok, thank you for the link and info, I'm gonna check that
[23:03] <AlanBell> if this is an effort towards the global ubuntu project then #ubuntu-meeting might well be the channel to use for meetings