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| thelinuxer | hi czajkowski | 15:34 |
| thelinuxer | czajkowski: what I was asking if there were some log on launchpad where I can see who did what ? | 15:35 |
| thelinuxer | actions like adding a mailing list, changing team details, approving members ..etc | 15:36 |
| thelinuxer | czajkowski: please ping me when u read this | 15:36 |
| czajkowski | thelinuxer: this is the wrong channel can you please join #launchpad | 15:36 |
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| balloons | #startmeeting ubuntu qa community | 16:03 |
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| * balloons waves | 16:04 | |
| balloons | who's all about? | 16:04 |
| astraljava | o/ | 16:04 |
| balloons | ok, well let's get started.. | 16:05 |
| balloons | hopefully there are a few other lurkers.. | 16:05 |
| astraljava | It'll be a short one if there aren't... | 16:06 |
| balloons | [TOPIC] Previous actions | 16:06 |
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| balloons | indeed ;-) | 16:06 |
| balloons | ACTION: phillw to fix feb 29th log, merge them, and make the regex for meetings page display all the logs again | 16:06 |
| balloons | Looks like phillw is still working on that as the page is still not showing the new logs | 16:07 |
| balloons | I'll re-add it for him, I know he couldn't make it today | 16:07 |
| balloons | [ACTION] phillw to fix feb 29th log, merge them, and make the regex for meetings page display all the logs again | 16:07 |
| meetingology | ACTION: phillw to fix feb 29th log, merge them, and make the regex for meetings page display all the logs again | 16:07 |
| balloons | ACTION: balloons to poll community members on preferred meeting day and time | 16:07 |
| balloons | This was done, and the results are in and can be found here.. http://whenisgood.net/mzs4etp/results/x83kbr | 16:08 |
| balloons | It seems like overall people would prefer something earlier in the day | 16:08 |
| balloons | thoughts? | 16:08 |
| astraljava | For eastern people (from GMT), it might prove to become difficult, if jobs don't allow participating during the working day. | 16:09 |
| balloons | err.. maybe I'm reading this wrong :-) | 16:09 |
| balloons | yea.. those numbers are confusing.. it's not the number of people who can make.. it's showing the number of people who can't | 16:10 |
| astraljava | I don't even know how to use it. :) | 16:10 |
| balloons | ??? that's really odd | 16:10 |
| astraljava | It is odd, I agree. | 16:11 |
| balloons | it is showing that this time isn't a particuarly good one | 16:11 |
| astraljava | Ahh... I see, when you move your mouse on the grid, it shows ya who feel that time to be either suitable or not so. | 16:12 |
| balloons | yea.. mouseover helps | 16:12 |
| balloons | clunky, but whatver | 16:12 |
| balloons | so.. yea, if it's just the two of us.. what do you think astraljava ? | 16:12 |
| astraljava | Why can't there be a listing for most suitable times or something? | 16:12 |
| * balloons doesn't know. | 16:12 | |
| balloons | I tried to find a useful "find a time" web service | 16:12 |
| astraljava | balloons: Best times for me would be after our office hours, provided I find a job with office hours, but I assume as much. | 16:13 |
| balloons | but the typical ones didn't support the multiple time zone and generic days | 16:13 |
| astraljava | So it'd mean about 3 pm. GMT and later. | 16:13 |
| balloons | we have a nice slot @ 7 pm UTC on Tuesday | 16:13 |
| balloons | both 6 pm and 7 pm UTC on tuesday many folks can make it | 16:13 |
| astraljava | Yeah, it should be fairly usable, provided you have a bit of time to spend on it. | 16:13 |
| balloons | basically 6-9 UTC on tuesday looks the most open | 16:14 |
| astraljava | Sounds good to me. | 16:14 |
| balloons | so, we can pick from this feedback then, or we can poll (again) with a couple specific options that were best | 16:14 |
| astraljava | Either way, I'm good. | 16:15 |
| balloons | I think since not many folks could make it, I'd still like to hear some feedback on the timeslot.. let's chose Tuesday @ 7 pm UTC and see what everyone thinks | 16:15 |
| astraljava | Well if you're gonna have another poll, then better give it a couple of options. | 16:16 |
| astraljava | We can spend some time on the results of the first, and find out the most popular, and suggest those again. | 16:16 |
| balloons | well I meant not polling again | 16:16 |
| balloons | but that's the question.. I could pull the top 3 or 5 out of here and poll with those day times and see | 16:16 |
| astraljava | Oh okay, I misunderstood the "see what everyone thinks" part, then. | 16:17 |
| balloons | yea, sorry | 16:17 |
| balloons | I'm thinking aloud to some extent | 16:17 |
| balloons | :-) | 16:17 |
| astraljava | Heheh. :) I do it a lot, as well. | 16:17 |
| balloons | So, poll again with top time slots? or just declare a time and see if it works out better | 16:17 |
| astraljava | Yeah, if we're not in a hurry for the change, I'd suggest polling again with the top 5 or so. | 16:17 |
| balloons | ok, I'll do a writeup and include the top times | 16:18 |
| astraljava | Sounds good. | 16:18 |
| balloons | [action] balloons to send results of poll and provide the most suitable timeframes for one last round of polling. | 16:19 |
| meetingology | ACTION: balloons to send results of poll and provide the most suitable timeframes for one last round of polling. | 16:19 |
| balloons | k, last item from befor | 16:19 |
| balloons | ACTION: balloons to share qa team proposal to mailing list | 16:19 |
| balloons | I did this and got some good feedback... Actually I think I need to respond to a post, if I remember correctly | 16:19 |
| balloons | I spoke with the newly forming u+1 team as part of sharing the plan and they had some suggestions on the proposal | 16:20 |
| balloons | anything you wish to discuss about astraljava ? | 16:21 |
| astraljava | Are we already into the flavors section? | 16:22 |
| astraljava | Or do you mean in general? | 16:22 |
| balloons | I mean did you have any feedback on the proposal | 16:22 |
| balloons | we were simply discussing the last action, sorry :-0 | 16:23 |
| balloons | if not, we'll move on to updates | 16:23 |
| astraljava | Ahh.. no, I have missed that email, sadly. | 16:23 |
| balloons | ahh.. well, here's a link to it again for the logs: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2012-March/002044.html | 16:24 |
| balloons | let's move on then | 16:24 |
| balloons | [topic] ubuntu updates | 16:24 |
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| balloons | A quick ubuntu update is prep is going on for beta2.. The checkbox manual app testing is going to occur again with some more apps and test coverage. | 16:25 |
| balloons | An installer sprint is also occurring right now and we as a community are helping out by doing specific iso testing to verify bugs/regressions have been fixed by the dev team | 16:26 |
| balloons | [topic] other ubuntu flavor updates | 16:26 |
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| balloons | astraljava, care to give us an update? | 16:27 |
| astraljava | Sure. | 16:27 |
| astraljava | Studio has had some trouble with the images lately. | 16:27 |
| astraljava | ubiquity would hang, and the installer process would not finish, then. | 16:27 |
| astraljava | But just recently cjwatson fixed one casper bug about it, so we're waiting to see progress on today's images. | 16:27 |
| astraljava | Otherwise, we still need an FFe for better theming of the live session/ubiquity. | 16:28 |
| astraljava | Because we're bringing in a new package. | 16:28 |
| astraljava | But that's about it for Studio. | 16:28 |
| astraljava | .. | 16:28 |
| balloons | good to hear your ubiquity issues are getting some <3 | 16:29 |
| astraljava | Yep. Thank $deity for the rockstars in our community. :) | 16:29 |
| balloons | ;-) Alright, in keeping with our quickness theme, I will move on to the last topic, conveniently titled 'other topics' :-0 | 16:30 |
| balloons | [topic] other topics | 16:30 |
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| balloons | I don't have anything else to chat about today, astraljava anything you wanted to bring up specifically? | 16:31 |
| astraljava | As the head of testing and QA for Xubuntu announced leaving the project after this cycle, I just had a chat with the leader of Xubuntu. | 16:31 |
| astraljava | So I am to announce stuff re: QA for Xubuntu in the future, too. | 16:31 |
| * balloons didn't see that | 16:32 | |
| astraljava | I think it only arrived on Xubuntu's mailing lists. | 16:32 |
| astraljava | But am not sure. | 16:32 |
| balloons | ahh | 16:32 |
| astraljava | So, if you keep track on the contact people for flavors, you can fill me in on Xubuntu as well. | 16:32 |
| balloons | i do, and noted.. I'll add you for xubuntu ;-) | 16:33 |
| astraljava | Ok, thanks. | 16:33 |
| astraljava | No other business from me. | 16:33 |
| balloons | thank you.. Alrighty, I think that concludes everything then.. hopefully this change can see our next meeting with a few more people ;-) | 16:34 |
| balloons | #endmeeting | 16:34 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 16:34:22 2012 UTC. | 16:34 |
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| balloons | thanks for coming astraljava! | 16:34 |
| astraljava | Thanks for chairing! | 16:34 |
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| gilir | #startmeeting Lubuntu Team Meeting | 20:04 |
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| gilir | hi :) | 20:04 |
| phillw | o/ | 20:05 |
| jmarsden|work | o/ | 20:06 |
| balloons | o/ | 20:06 |
| gilir | agenda, still at the same place : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda | 20:06 |
| gilir | no action item from previous meeting | 20:07 |
| gilir | I'll skip point from people not here, to speed up the meeting a bit | 20:08 |
| * phillw loves being 1st up! | 20:08 | |
| gilir | :) | 20:09 |
| gilir | #topic phillw - Weekly report - Update from QA meeting and team | 20:09 |
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| phillw | The Ubiquity (installer) sprint (get rid of as many bugs as possible is the shortest time) is now drawing to a close, they have nailed several bugs that really annoy / break. The final remix with the results will be in tomorrows build. | 20:09 |
| phillw | I've asked balloons to attend in case he has something extra to add. | 20:10 |
| phillw | There was also raised the fact that we have bugs going back > 90 days that have not lapsed. | 20:11 |
| amjjawad | Hi | 20:11 |
| amjjawad | is there a meeting? | 20:11 |
| gilir | any decision concerning bug 775124 ? | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 775124 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity should have a command line option to override the free space check" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775124 | 20:11 |
| phillw | I'll ask how best to address clearing these off | 20:12 |
| phillw | gilir: afaik, it is an active work in progress. | 20:12 |
| phillw | gilir: you will have seen my and others comments about it. | 20:13 |
| gilir | this bug block installation with live ISO of any 4Gb hard-drive netbook, which is not so unusual hardware :) | 20:13 |
| phillw | gilir: I did make that clear on my submission to the bug :) | 20:13 |
| gilir | great, I'll wait to see the progress, thanks :) | 20:14 |
| amjjawad | phillw: hi, I'm late sorry ... the meeting already started right? | 20:14 |
| phillw | gilir: as an MOTU, and 'boss' of lubuntu you have more chance of creating such a fuss that they eventually give in & accept that it is wrong. | 20:14 |
| phillw | amjjawad: is okay, still on QA | 20:15 |
| phillw | stuff | 20:15 |
| amjjawad | ok phillw thanks :) | 20:15 |
| phillw | gilir: can I please confirm that lubuntu is now non-pae by default? | 20:15 |
| gilir | phillw, yes, it should :) | 20:16 |
| amjjawad | gilir: hi, if it's PAE will that be a huge problem? | 20:16 |
| phillw | okies, just so we can set up the wiki for it | 20:16 |
| amjjawad | coz no one replied my email yet | 20:16 |
| gilir | I didn't test it yet, but if it's not so far on a daily, it's a bug | 20:17 |
| phillw | gilir: just as well we had some non-pae testers working on it :) | 20:17 |
| gilir | amjjawad, what do you mean by problem ? | 20:17 |
| amjjawad | if Lubuntu follow Ubuntu and go for PAE Kernel so will that be a problem? | 20:18 |
| amjjawad | I sent an email already about that | 20:18 |
| jmarsden|work | amjjawad: It will be a problem for people with non-PAE CPUs if the kernel requires PAE... | 20:18 |
| phillw | gilir: I believe it landed, but have not had chance to fully catch up with the email section of 'non-pae testing' on lubuntu-qa lists | 20:18 |
| amjjawad | jmarsden|work: so they won't be able to boot? | 20:18 |
| jmarsden|work | amjjawad: correct | 20:18 |
| amjjawad | i see, thanks a lot jmarsden|work :) | 20:18 |
| amjjawad | and if someone wants to add the PAE support, it's piece of cake, correct? jmarsden|work ? | 20:19 |
| jmarsden|work | amjjawad: It's a kernel compilation option. | 20:19 |
| phillw | amjjawad: I did comment on how to add PAE for those who have > 3.2GB RAM. I'm just awaiting confirmation that the instructions from a couple of years ago still work. | 20:20 |
| amjjawad | ok, thanks guys, I will wait for a confirmation then :) | 20:20 |
| amjjawad | quick silly Q ... the best thing for testing is the daily build or the milestone build? I guess the daily one right? | 20:20 |
| gilir | the daily is better, because it's the most up-to-date | 20:22 |
| phillw | amjjawad: depends on what you wish to test, see me after the meeting & I'll be happy to explain anything on our Testing wiki page you do not understand. | 20:22 |
| amjjawad | ok phillw thanks ... thanks too gilir :) | 20:22 |
| phillw | amjjawad: if you do not understand it, it needs to me made more clear. | 20:22 |
| gilir | anything to add for QA phillw ? | 20:23 |
| phillw | gilir: I think that's all from QA | 20:23 |
| gilir | thanks phillw :) | 20:23 |
| amjjawad | if Karl is not here, I will take care of Comms Updates if I may :) | 20:23 |
| gilir | Unit193 seems away, so yes, going to comm team update :) | 20:24 |
| gilir | #topic amjjawad Weekly report - Update from comms team | 20:24 |
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| amjjawad | Ok, so long story short ... I'm sure everyone is aware of my last email ... Comms Team needs an access to ALL Lubuntu Social Networking Pages/Group/Etc | 20:25 |
| amjjawad | beside, WOW Lubuntu must start action and be something like OMG Ubuntu | 20:25 |
| amjjawad | Also, I need someone who is GOOD in making YouTube Videos as I want to make some nice stuff about Lubuntu ;) | 20:26 |
| amjjawad | so 3 main points from Comms Team | 20:26 |
| gilir | thanks amjjawad :) | 20:27 |
| amjjawad | 1- An Active Member of Comms Team must have access to ALL the pages on Fb and Google+ and I have asked for that many times ago! | 20:27 |
| phillw | amjjawad: I saw leszec join. he is the master of vids. | 20:27 |
| jmarsden|work | Comms Team needs X: so go ahead and get X, do whatever it takes to acquire X... do you have a plan to acquire "access to all Lubuntu Social Networking Pages...", and to "start action" for WOW Lubuntu, and to find someone with appropriate video creation skills? Stating a need is not really a plan for action... | 20:27 |
| amjjawad | phillw: if he has time then that would be super great. We must be on everywhere ... youtube, facebook, etc etc | 20:27 |
| amjjawad | WOW Lubuntu is my project but I need someone to help me with it. As for having access, I have access to Lubuntu Google+ Page and Lubuntu Group but NOT the Facebook Page that has more than 4K users | 20:28 |
| amjjawad | Comms Team has 12 memebrs if I'm not wrong and WE must work as a TEAM. | 20:29 |
| jmarsden|work | amjjawad: So, how are you planning to gain such access to the Facebook page? | 20:29 |
| amjjawad | Time here is short so I can't explain too much ... that will be for a mailing list :) | 20:29 |
| amjjawad | well, the admin of that page need to give me that access :( | 20:29 |
| gilir | amjjawad, for the access to the accounts, it's in progress, just have technical issue on twitter side | 20:30 |
| amjjawad | I'm not an admin | 20:30 |
| amjjawad | I'm not talking about twitter, I don't care much about it. I care more about Fb | 20:30 |
| amjjawad | it has 4000 users and I need to work on them | 20:30 |
| amjjawad | I need to be as close as possible to them. Not me, Comms Team as a whole must be close to those users | 20:30 |
| jmarsden|work | amjjawad: So is the Facebook page admin here? if not, do you know who it is and have you contacted them and asked for access? | 20:30 |
| amjjawad | Yes, gilir is one :D | 20:31 |
| jmarsden|work | OK, so sounds like that is taken care of, it is in progress. | 20:31 |
| amjjawad | Not really I'm afraid. | 20:32 |
| jmarsden|work | gilir: do you have a time when you will be able to get amjjawad the access he needs on Facebook? | 20:32 |
| amjjawad | It's ONE click away and I have no idea what it did take so long :( | 20:32 |
| amjjawad | why* | 20:32 |
| gilir | jmarsden|work, I already added it on my list to things to do | 20:33 |
| gilir | just wanted to solve also the twitter stuff | 20:33 |
| * phillw my overall wish is that Lubuntu has ONE fb page. Concentrate our energies there. | 20:33 | |
| amjjawad | I don't mind controlling Two. I'm very active on F | 20:33 |
| phillw | gilir: that was a change in the API for twitter for the drupal site. | 20:33 |
| amjjawad | Fb | 20:33 |
| amjjawad | those who added me can see me there all the time | 20:34 |
| phillw | gilir: mario has asked if we have someone who can get it working again. | 20:34 |
| amjjawad | So, gilir i will be waiting :( | 20:34 |
| amjjawad | let's do the fb then worry about Twitter | 20:34 |
| amjjawad | and PLEASE don't add any feed to the website, that won't be nice IMHO. Just my thought about it | 20:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | phillw; what working again on the website? | 20:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | The twitter stream? | 20:35 |
| gilir | #action Add amjjawad to lubuntu fb page | 20:36 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Add amjjawad to lubuntu fb page | 20:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | (Well, stream?) | 20:36 |
| phillw | amjjawad: we did it as a test. it didn't work. The twitter feed is to allow registered people to tweet. | 20:36 |
| * gilir add the action, so amjjawad can blame me if I don't do it next week | 20:36 | |
| amjjawad | phillw: ok but hope the final website version will have no feed neither for twitter nor fb. | 20:36 |
| amjjawad | gilir: come on :P | 20:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | amjjawad; why not? | 20:37 |
| amjjawad | so, for the guy who is good in YouTube, I will search for him/her on the mailing list. As for WOW Lubuntu Project, I will send an email to later on | 20:37 |
| phillw | gilir: as you said, we need to get this nailed down before 12.04 launches... the clock is ticking. | 20:37 |
| amjjawad | MrChrisDruif: I don't want to blame anyone but I will keep reminding though :P | 20:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | Why not have a "Social" page on there so people can see some of the stuff we do and how people like it? | 20:37 |
| amjjawad | oh you mean why for the website? | 20:37 |
| * phillw can we get back on | 20:38 | |
| phillw | Agenda? | 20:38 |
| MrChrisDruif | amjjawad; yup | 20:38 |
| MrChrisDruif | phillw; sure | 20:38 |
| amjjawad | I'm just saying ... no need for feed streem. that will take so much work plus that will require a real time stuff | 20:38 |
| phillw | amjjawad: comms team ar the there to sort that :) | 20:38 |
| amjjawad | I'm no expret in web desginign but being on fb which is using a real time thing ... that IMHO will take so much time and effort which is not needed for now | 20:38 |
| amjjawad | Ok so let's keep that chat on the mailing list :) I'm done here | 20:39 |
| gilir | ok, thanks amjjawad :) | 20:40 |
| amjjawad | gilir: you welcome ;) | 20:40 |
| gilir | #topic amjjawad - Weekly report - Update from Support Team | 20:41 |
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| gilir | I don't know if the support team is active again | 20:41 |
| amjjawad | Oh yes | 20:41 |
| amjjawad | I'm here :D | 20:41 |
| gilir | If you don't have anything to say, we can pass this topic :) | 20:41 |
| amjjawad | However, nothing so far. I'm focusing on Comms bcoz it got re-activated again | 20:41 |
| amjjawad | sure, pass to the other one | 20:41 |
| gilir | ok :) | 20:42 |
| gilir | #topic gilir- Weekly report - Update from Devs teams | 20:42 |
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| gilir | it's kernel week :) | 20:42 |
| gilir | to confirmed, we have non-pae for i386 by default for 12.04 | 20:42 |
| amjjawad | so we are following Xubuntu's Steps? | 20:43 |
| gilir | also, for powerpc, a switch to smp kernel will be done also | 20:43 |
| gilir | but it should not impact hardware support, just maybe a small impact on performance on 1 CPU hardware | 20:44 |
| amjjawad | I'm on GRUB2 and the daily build for 20032012 has Generic Kerenl :) I see | 20:44 |
| gilir | amjjawad, yes | 20:44 |
| phillw | gilir: I think, for lubuntu, that is excellent news. | 20:45 |
| gilir | we also finally pushed fixes for the the "empty icons in the systray", please test it :) | 20:45 |
| * phillw what, you mean my 3G device will not be a gap any more? :) | 20:46 | |
| gilir | to finish, I'm working on the ISO sizes, by putting back some languages on the ISOs | 20:46 |
| amjjawad | gilir: that bug when you suspend and after that empty spaces will be on systray? I will test that coz I got a test laptop ;) | 20:46 |
| gilir | please ping me if you see oversized ISO for daily | 20:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed | 20:47 |
| gilir | phillw, that's a different bug, I'm afraid | 20:47 |
| amjjawad | it should be 700MB and less, correct? | 20:47 |
| gilir | amjjawad, yes and yes | 20:47 |
| phillw | gilir: if you can keep the dailies cd sized, that would be one heck of an acheivement | 20:47 |
| amjjawad | gilir: thanks :) | 20:47 |
| phillw | darn paper cuts :( | 20:48 |
| gilir | that's all for me, any questions ? | 20:48 |
| amjjawad | Yes please | 20:49 |
| amjjawad | I can't run LSC :( | 20:49 |
| amjjawad | it crashes once I click on it and it is not loading at all | 20:49 |
| amjjawad | Lubuntu 32-bit daily build 20-3-2012 | 20:49 |
| gilir | amjjawad, please report a bug directly | 20:49 |
| amjjawad | ok will do | 20:49 |
| amjjawad | is it possible to add "Lock Scree" in Menu? | 20:50 |
| amjjawad | Screen* | 20:50 |
| phillw | amjjawad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs | 20:50 |
| phillw | amjjawad: requests are requests, bugs are bugs. | 20:51 |
| gilir | amjjawad, it's a bit late for 12.04 | 20:51 |
| amjjawad | gilir: ok :( | 20:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | And besides, you can get lock screen with the shutdown menu and with Ctrl + Alt + L I believed | 20:51 |
| phillw | amjjawad: we open for requests soon after 12.04 launches. please feel free to request it for 12.10 | 20:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | With other words amjjawad: make a list ;-) | 20:52 |
| amjjawad | I did that for Lubuntu 12.04 long ago but looks like I did not follow the correct approach | 20:52 |
| gilir | phillw, we have a lot of work to triage such requests / bugs, the bug tracker is full of them :( | 20:52 |
| amjjawad | MrChrisDruif: no, you can't do that for Lock Screen, you need to configure it ;) | 20:52 |
| phillw | amjjawad: well, you now know how to do it :) | 20:52 |
| amjjawad | phillw: i don't so i will ask u and u will help ;) | 20:53 |
| gilir | amjjawad, the right approcach is the bug report | 20:53 |
| amjjawad | which someone will turn it to a wishlist I guess | 20:53 |
| gilir | however, we have to clean our bug tracker a bit ... | 20:53 |
| phillw | gilir: hence my comment earlier about blitzing the out of date bugs that hang around like a bad smell. | 20:53 |
| amjjawad | as I did that with the Clippboard Manager issue | 20:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | amjjawad; indeed, you are right: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F | 20:53 |
| phillw | gilir: as MrChrisDruif has scraped in late (he did let me know) could you give him the #topic? | 20:54 |
| gilir | phillw, it's a normal bug triaging process, we just didn't spend time on this recently :( | 20:55 |
| gilir | phillw, current topic ? it's in the title of the room, no ? | 20:56 |
| gilir | ok, let's move to the last topic, to finsih in time | 20:56 |
| phillw | gilir: MrChrisDruifWeekly report - Update from Docs team | 20:56 |
| gilir | #topic MrChrisDruif - Weekly report - Update from Docs team | 20:56 |
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| MrChrisDruif | Yeah, docs don't need much of your time ladies and gents | 20:57 |
| gilir | ok, thanks MrChrisDruif :) | 20:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | Anyhow, I didn't see any bad links mentioned on the lubuntu-users and lubuntu-wiki mailing-lists so I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp can also be redirected | 20:57 |
| phillw | MrChrisDruif: we have some alterations to make over the switch of PAE | 20:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp | 20:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | phillw; I'll get to that later | 20:58 |
| gilir | #topic Any Other Business | 20:58 |
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| MrChrisDruif | And Jonathan I believe send some more human-readable code for removing old kernels | 20:59 |
| gilir | any other questions, you have 2 minutes :) | 20:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | Thanks gilir, I wasn't done ^_^ | 20:59 |
| amjjawad | what is the name of the current login manager? it is same as the one in Xubuntu 11.10 | 20:59 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, arf sorry :( | 20:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | ^_^ | 20:59 |
| amjjawad | ok ignore me, MrChrisDruif please go on | 20:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'll try to update the wiki for removing old kernels asap | 20:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | As far as going back to non-pae I'll have to check what needs to be done | 21:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | in terms of documentation | 21:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | AOB??? | 21:00 |
| gilir | well, we went to back to the situation we had on 11.10 | 21:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | So no LightDM? | 21:01 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, I mean, for the non-pae kernel | 21:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ah, okay | 21:01 |
| gilir | we still have lightdm, the same than xubuntu | 21:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | And the login manager question of amjjawad, it's still lightdm unless something has changed? | 21:01 |
| gilir | amjjawad, ^ | 21:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alrighty | 21:02 |
| amjjawad | it does not look like Ubuntu :( | 21:02 |
| amjjawad | I mean LightDM | 21:02 |
| gilir | amjjawad, yes, because it's another "greeter" | 21:02 |
| amjjawad | I see | 21:02 |
| amjjawad | and no way to make it just like Ubuntu coz it is too late, right? | 21:03 |
| gilir | amjjawad, it's too late, and we have to write a new greeter | 21:03 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yup, but maybe it's an idea to post your idea about how the login manager should look to the design team? | 21:03 |
| amjjawad | ok, thanks gilir :) | 21:03 |
| gilir | ideas and mockups are always welcome :) | 21:04 |
| phillw | gilir: it is possibly worth a mention in the release notea? | 21:04 |
| phillw | s/notea/notes | 21:04 |
| gilir | phillw, the fact that we are using lightdm ? sure | 21:04 |
| amjjawad | with another greeter :) | 21:05 |
| gilir | I think I added in a release note for alpha or beta 1 | 21:05 |
| amjjawad | so everyone will be aware and in the loop ;) | 21:05 |
| jmarsden|work | More importantly, is there anything that was easy/obvious how to do/trivial in the previous greeter that is now harder/more obscure/impossible in the new one? If so, *that* should be documented. | 21:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed, but I'm not informed enough about the big differences between the two login managers | 21:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | Except for eye-candy that is ;-) | 21:06 |
| gilir | jmarsden|work, the greeter, I don't think so, unless you make theme of LXDM | 21:06 |
| gilir | jmarsden|work, the login manager, maybe yes, like the autologin stuff | 21:06 |
| jmarsden|work | Documetning "we are now using lightdm" doesn't mean much to novice users. DOcumenting "to change languages you now need to do THIS instead of THAT" might save some support calls. | 21:07 |
| gilir | it's now different | 21:07 |
| gilir | the configuration is also completly different than LXDM | 21:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | Maybe this is something for the mailing-list? | 21:08 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, are you aware of any documentation about th elogin manager on Ubuntu ? | 21:08 |
| amjjawad | I wish LXDM will be much more better and will back to action in 12.10 | 21:08 |
| gilir | amjjawad, probbaly not, sharing this type of application which others devs is really nice | 21:09 |
| jmarsden|work | amjjawad: "much more better" is pretty subjective... make specific clear suggestions for improvements and they might have a chance to be added to lightdm :) | 21:09 |
| MrChrisDruif | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin#Enabling_AutoLogin_from_command_line | 21:09 |
| amjjawad | jmarsden|work: will do my best to do that once I have some time :) | 21:10 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, thanks, so it should be the same on lubuntu for 12.04 :) | 21:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | Afaict there isn't much help pages about lightdm | 21:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | gilir; but the wiki might have more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM | 21:11 |
| jmarsden|work | MrChrisDruif: Sounds like a new "opportunity" for the Docs team :) :) | 21:11 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, this is more for testing and report bug, not really for users :) | 21:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed | 21:11 |
| phillw | MrChrisDruif: go nag the xubuntu people, they went over last release :) | 21:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe, I'll see what pleia2 can tell me ^_^ | 21:12 |
| gilir | phillw, they should share this type of documentation ;) | 21:12 |
| phillw | MrChrisDruif: She will give you ever support that she can. | 21:12 |
| MrChrisDruif | phillw; I know and she's involved with Xubuntu | 21:13 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, anything to add for documentation team ? | 21:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'll see what info we've currently got about LXDM and try to hunt back all that functionality in LightDM and document it | 21:13 |
| gilir | MrChrisDruif, thanks, many users asked about this for LXDM, so I'm sure it will be very useful | 21:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | I probably think this is a multi-week subject for the docs team (seeing I'm one of the only active ones around) | 21:14 |
| phillw | #action MrChrisDruif check to see what community documentation is available for LightDM | 21:14 |
| meetingology | ACTION: MrChrisDruif check to see what community documentation is available for LightDM | 21:14 |
| gilir | thanks phillw :) | 21:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | Thanks buddy ;-) | 21:15 |
| phillw | soz MrChrisDruif :) | 21:15 |
| amjjawad | MrChrisDruif: I will do my best to support you but I'm much more focusing on Comms Team right now :( | 21:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | It's alright amjjawad, everyone's time is limited | 21:15 |
| amjjawad | yep :( | 21:16 |
| * phillw proposes #endmeeting | 21:16 | |
| gilir | we are already late, so I'll finish the meeting if nobody have any other topics | 21:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | +1 | 21:16 |
| gilir | #endmeeting | 21:17 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 21:17:07 2012 UTC. | 21:17 |
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| gilir | thanks everyone :) | 21:17 |
| amjjawad | gilir: thanks a lot :) | 21:17 |
| phillw | gilir: as always, thanks for herding cats. | 21:18 |
| balloons | gilir, ^^ | 21:19 |
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