=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [05:31] anyone there === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === smb` is now known as smb === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === smb` is now known as smb === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === beuno_ is now known as beuno === Guest10799 is now known as tobin === tobin is now known as Guest70213 === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === yofel_ is now known as yofel === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [15:34] hi czajkowski [15:35] czajkowski: what I was asking if there were some log on launchpad where I can see who did what ? [15:36] actions like adding a mailing list, changing team details, approving members ..etc [15:36] czajkowski: please ping me when u read this [15:36] thelinuxer: this is the wrong channel can you please join #launchpad === EgyParadox_ is now known as EgyParadox [16:03] #startmeeting ubuntu qa community [16:03] Meeting started Wed Mar 21 16:03:51 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:03] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: [16:04] * balloons waves [16:04] who's all about? [16:04] o/ [16:05] ok, well let's get started.. [16:05] hopefully there are a few other lurkers.. [16:06] It'll be a short one if there aren't... [16:06] [TOPIC] Previous actions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: Previous actions [16:06] indeed ;-) [16:06] ACTION: phillw to fix feb 29th log, merge them, and make the regex for meetings page display all the logs again [16:07] Looks like phillw is still working on that as the page is still not showing the new logs [16:07] I'll re-add it for him, I know he couldn't make it today [16:07] [ACTION] phillw to fix feb 29th log, merge them, and make the regex for meetings page display all the logs again [16:07] ACTION: phillw to fix feb 29th log, merge them, and make the regex for meetings page display all the logs again [16:07] ACTION: balloons to poll community members on preferred meeting day and time [16:08] This was done, and the results are in and can be found here.. http://whenisgood.net/mzs4etp/results/x83kbr [16:08] It seems like overall people would prefer something earlier in the day [16:08] thoughts? [16:09] For eastern people (from GMT), it might prove to become difficult, if jobs don't allow participating during the working day. [16:09] err.. maybe I'm reading this wrong :-) [16:10] yea.. those numbers are confusing.. it's not the number of people who can make.. it's showing the number of people who can't [16:10] I don't even know how to use it. :) [16:10] ??? that's really odd [16:11] It is odd, I agree. [16:11] it is showing that this time isn't a particuarly good one [16:12] Ahh... I see, when you move your mouse on the grid, it shows ya who feel that time to be either suitable or not so. [16:12] yea.. mouseover helps [16:12] clunky, but whatver [16:12] so.. yea, if it's just the two of us.. what do you think astraljava ? [16:12] Why can't there be a listing for most suitable times or something? [16:12] * balloons doesn't know. [16:12] I tried to find a useful "find a time" web service [16:13] balloons: Best times for me would be after our office hours, provided I find a job with office hours, but I assume as much. [16:13] but the typical ones didn't support the multiple time zone and generic days [16:13] So it'd mean about 3 pm. GMT and later. [16:13] we have a nice slot @ 7 pm UTC on Tuesday [16:13] both 6 pm and 7 pm UTC on tuesday many folks can make it [16:13] Yeah, it should be fairly usable, provided you have a bit of time to spend on it. [16:14] basically 6-9 UTC on tuesday looks the most open [16:14] Sounds good to me. [16:14] so, we can pick from this feedback then, or we can poll (again) with a couple specific options that were best [16:15] Either way, I'm good. [16:15] I think since not many folks could make it, I'd still like to hear some feedback on the timeslot.. let's chose Tuesday @ 7 pm UTC and see what everyone thinks [16:16] Well if you're gonna have another poll, then better give it a couple of options. [16:16] We can spend some time on the results of the first, and find out the most popular, and suggest those again. [16:16] well I meant not polling again [16:16] but that's the question.. I could pull the top 3 or 5 out of here and poll with those day times and see [16:17] Oh okay, I misunderstood the "see what everyone thinks" part, then. [16:17] yea, sorry [16:17] I'm thinking aloud to some extent [16:17] :-) [16:17] Heheh. :) I do it a lot, as well. [16:17] So, poll again with top time slots? or just declare a time and see if it works out better [16:17] Yeah, if we're not in a hurry for the change, I'd suggest polling again with the top 5 or so. [16:18] ok, I'll do a writeup and include the top times [16:18] Sounds good. [16:19] [action] balloons to send results of poll and provide the most suitable timeframes for one last round of polling. [16:19] ACTION: balloons to send results of poll and provide the most suitable timeframes for one last round of polling. [16:19] k, last item from befor [16:19] ACTION: balloons to share qa team proposal to mailing list [16:19] I did this and got some good feedback... Actually I think I need to respond to a post, if I remember correctly [16:20] I spoke with the newly forming u+1 team as part of sharing the plan and they had some suggestions on the proposal [16:21] anything you wish to discuss about astraljava ? [16:22] Are we already into the flavors section? [16:22] Or do you mean in general? [16:22] I mean did you have any feedback on the proposal [16:23] we were simply discussing the last action, sorry :-0 [16:23] if not, we'll move on to updates [16:23] Ahh.. no, I have missed that email, sadly. [16:24] ahh.. well, here's a link to it again for the logs: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2012-March/002044.html [16:24] let's move on then [16:24] [topic] ubuntu updates === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: ubuntu updates [16:25] A quick ubuntu update is prep is going on for beta2.. The checkbox manual app testing is going to occur again with some more apps and test coverage. [16:26] An installer sprint is also occurring right now and we as a community are helping out by doing specific iso testing to verify bugs/regressions have been fixed by the dev team [16:26] [topic] other ubuntu flavor updates === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: other ubuntu flavor updates [16:27] astraljava, care to give us an update? [16:27] Sure. [16:27] Studio has had some trouble with the images lately. [16:27] ubiquity would hang, and the installer process would not finish, then. [16:27] But just recently cjwatson fixed one casper bug about it, so we're waiting to see progress on today's images. [16:28] Otherwise, we still need an FFe for better theming of the live session/ubiquity. [16:28] Because we're bringing in a new package. [16:28] But that's about it for Studio. [16:28] .. [16:29] good to hear your ubiquity issues are getting some <3 [16:29] Yep. Thank $deity for the rockstars in our community. :) [16:30] ;-) Alright, in keeping with our quickness theme, I will move on to the last topic, conveniently titled 'other topics' :-0 [16:30] [topic] other topics === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: other topics [16:31] I don't have anything else to chat about today, astraljava anything you wanted to bring up specifically? [16:31] As the head of testing and QA for Xubuntu announced leaving the project after this cycle, I just had a chat with the leader of Xubuntu. [16:31] So I am to announce stuff re: QA for Xubuntu in the future, too. [16:32] * balloons didn't see that [16:32] I think it only arrived on Xubuntu's mailing lists. [16:32] But am not sure. [16:32] ahh [16:32] So, if you keep track on the contact people for flavors, you can fill me in on Xubuntu as well. [16:33] i do, and noted.. I'll add you for xubuntu ;-) [16:33] Ok, thanks. [16:33] No other business from me. [16:34] thank you.. Alrighty, I think that concludes everything then.. hopefully this change can see our next meeting with a few more people ;-) [16:34] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:34] Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 16:34:22 2012 UTC. [16:34] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-21-16.03.moin.txt [16:34] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-21-16.03.html [16:34] thanks for coming astraljava! [16:34] Thanks for chairing! === elopio_ is now known as elopio === Guest70213 is now known as tobin === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [20:04] #startmeeting Lubuntu Team Meeting [20:04] Meeting started Wed Mar 21 20:04:48 2012 UTC. The chair is gilir. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:04] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: [20:04] hi :) [20:05] o/ [20:06] o/ [20:06] o/ [20:06] agenda, still at the same place : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda [20:07] no action item from previous meeting [20:08] I'll skip point from people not here, to speed up the meeting a bit [20:08] * phillw loves being 1st up! [20:09] :) [20:09] #topic phillw - Weekly report - Update from QA meeting and team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: phillw - Weekly report - Update from QA meeting and team [20:09] The Ubiquity (installer) sprint (get rid of as many bugs as possible is the shortest time) is now drawing to a close, they have nailed several bugs that really annoy / break. The final remix with the results will be in tomorrows build. [20:10] I've asked balloons to attend in case he has something extra to add. [20:11] There was also raised the fact that we have bugs going back > 90 days that have not lapsed. [20:11] Hi [20:11] is there a meeting? [20:11] any decision concerning bug 775124 ? [20:11] Launchpad bug 775124 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity should have a command line option to override the free space check" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775124 [20:12] I'll ask how best to address clearing these off [20:12] gilir: afaik, it is an active work in progress. [20:13] gilir: you will have seen my and others comments about it. [20:13] this bug block installation with live ISO of any 4Gb hard-drive netbook, which is not so unusual hardware :) [20:13] gilir: I did make that clear on my submission to the bug :) [20:14] great, I'll wait to see the progress, thanks :) [20:14] phillw: hi, I'm late sorry ... the meeting already started right? [20:14] gilir: as an MOTU, and 'boss' of lubuntu you have more chance of creating such a fuss that they eventually give in & accept that it is wrong. [20:15] amjjawad: is okay, still on QA [20:15] stuff [20:15] ok phillw thanks :) [20:15] gilir: can I please confirm that lubuntu is now non-pae by default? [20:16] phillw, yes, it should :) [20:16] gilir: hi, if it's PAE will that be a huge problem? [20:16] okies, just so we can set up the wiki for it [20:16] coz no one replied my email yet [20:17] I didn't test it yet, but if it's not so far on a daily, it's a bug [20:17] gilir: just as well we had some non-pae testers working on it :) [20:17] amjjawad, what do you mean by problem ? [20:18] if Lubuntu follow Ubuntu and go for PAE Kernel so will that be a problem? [20:18] I sent an email already about that [20:18] amjjawad: It will be a problem for people with non-PAE CPUs if the kernel requires PAE... [20:18] gilir: I believe it landed, but have not had chance to fully catch up with the email section of 'non-pae testing' on lubuntu-qa lists [20:18] jmarsden|work: so they won't be able to boot? [20:18] amjjawad: correct [20:18] i see, thanks a lot jmarsden|work :) [20:19] and if someone wants to add the PAE support, it's piece of cake, correct? jmarsden|work ? [20:19] amjjawad: It's a kernel compilation option. [20:20] amjjawad: I did comment on how to add PAE for those who have > 3.2GB RAM. I'm just awaiting confirmation that the instructions from a couple of years ago still work. [20:20] ok, thanks guys, I will wait for a confirmation then :) [20:20] quick silly Q ... the best thing for testing is the daily build or the milestone build? I guess the daily one right? [20:22] the daily is better, because it's the most up-to-date [20:22] amjjawad: depends on what you wish to test, see me after the meeting & I'll be happy to explain anything on our Testing wiki page you do not understand. [20:22] ok phillw thanks ... thanks too gilir :) [20:22] amjjawad: if you do not understand it, it needs to me made more clear. [20:23] anything to add for QA phillw ? [20:23] gilir: I think that's all from QA [20:23] thanks phillw :) [20:23] if Karl is not here, I will take care of Comms Updates if I may :) [20:24] Unit193 seems away, so yes, going to comm team update :) [20:24] #topic amjjawad Weekly report - Update from comms team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: amjjawad Weekly report - Update from comms team [20:25] Ok, so long story short ... I'm sure everyone is aware of my last email ... Comms Team needs an access to ALL Lubuntu Social Networking Pages/Group/Etc [20:25] beside, WOW Lubuntu must start action and be something like OMG Ubuntu [20:26] Also, I need someone who is GOOD in making YouTube Videos as I want to make some nice stuff about Lubuntu ;) [20:26] so 3 main points from Comms Team [20:27] thanks amjjawad :) [20:27] 1- An Active Member of Comms Team must have access to ALL the pages on Fb and Google+ and I have asked for that many times ago! [20:27] amjjawad: I saw leszec join. he is the master of vids. [20:27] Comms Team needs X: so go ahead and get X, do whatever it takes to acquire X... do you have a plan to acquire "access to all Lubuntu Social Networking Pages...", and to "start action" for WOW Lubuntu, and to find someone with appropriate video creation skills? Stating a need is not really a plan for action... [20:27] phillw: if he has time then that would be super great. We must be on everywhere ... youtube, facebook, etc etc [20:28] WOW Lubuntu is my project but I need someone to help me with it. As for having access, I have access to Lubuntu Google+ Page and Lubuntu Group but NOT the Facebook Page that has more than 4K users [20:29] Comms Team has 12 memebrs if I'm not wrong and WE must work as a TEAM. [20:29] amjjawad: So, how are you planning to gain such access to the Facebook page? [20:29] Time here is short so I can't explain too much ... that will be for a mailing list :) [20:29] well, the admin of that page need to give me that access :( [20:30] amjjawad, for the access to the accounts, it's in progress, just have technical issue on twitter side [20:30] I'm not an admin [20:30] I'm not talking about twitter, I don't care much about it. I care more about Fb [20:30] it has 4000 users and I need to work on them [20:30] I need to be as close as possible to them. Not me, Comms Team as a whole must be close to those users [20:30] amjjawad: So is the Facebook page admin here? if not, do you know who it is and have you contacted them and asked for access? [20:31] Yes, gilir is one :D [20:31] OK, so sounds like that is taken care of, it is in progress. [20:32] Not really I'm afraid. [20:32] gilir: do you have a time when you will be able to get amjjawad the access he needs on Facebook? [20:32] It's ONE click away and I have no idea what it did take so long :( [20:32] why* [20:33] jmarsden|work, I already added it on my list to things to do [20:33] just wanted to solve also the twitter stuff [20:33] * phillw my overall wish is that Lubuntu has ONE fb page. Concentrate our energies there. [20:33] I don't mind controlling Two. I'm very active on F [20:33] gilir: that was a change in the API for twitter for the drupal site. [20:33] Fb [20:34] those who added me can see me there all the time [20:34] gilir: mario has asked if we have someone who can get it working again. [20:34] So, gilir i will be waiting :( [20:34] let's do the fb then worry about Twitter [20:35] and PLEASE don't add any feed to the website, that won't be nice IMHO. Just my thought about it [20:35] phillw; what working again on the website? [20:35] The twitter stream? [20:36] #action Add amjjawad to lubuntu fb page [20:36] ACTION: Add amjjawad to lubuntu fb page [20:36] (Well, stream?) [20:36] amjjawad: we did it as a test. it didn't work. The twitter feed is to allow registered people to tweet. [20:36] * gilir add the action, so amjjawad can blame me if I don't do it next week [20:36] phillw: ok but hope the final website version will have no feed neither for twitter nor fb. [20:36] gilir: come on :P [20:37] amjjawad; why not? [20:37] so, for the guy who is good in YouTube, I will search for him/her on the mailing list. As for WOW Lubuntu Project, I will send an email to later on [20:37] gilir: as you said, we need to get this nailed down before 12.04 launches... the clock is ticking. [20:37] MrChrisDruif: I don't want to blame anyone but I will keep reminding though :P [20:37] Why not have a "Social" page on there so people can see some of the stuff we do and how people like it? [20:37] oh you mean why for the website? [20:38] * phillw can we get back on [20:38] Agenda? [20:38] amjjawad; yup [20:38] phillw; sure [20:38] I'm just saying ... no need for feed streem. that will take so much work plus that will require a real time stuff [20:38] amjjawad: comms team ar the there to sort that :) [20:38] I'm no expret in web desginign but being on fb which is using a real time thing ... that IMHO will take so much time and effort which is not needed for now [20:39] Ok so let's keep that chat on the mailing list :) I'm done here [20:40] ok, thanks amjjawad :) [20:40] gilir: you welcome ;) [20:41] #topic amjjawad - Weekly report - Update from Support Team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: amjjawad - Weekly report - Update from Support Team [20:41] I don't know if the support team is active again [20:41] Oh yes [20:41] I'm here :D [20:41] If you don't have anything to say, we can pass this topic :) [20:41] However, nothing so far. I'm focusing on Comms bcoz it got re-activated again [20:41] sure, pass to the other one [20:42] ok :) [20:42] #topic gilir- Weekly report - Update from Devs teams === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: gilir- Weekly report - Update from Devs teams [20:42] it's kernel week :) [20:42] to confirmed, we have non-pae for i386 by default for 12.04 [20:43] so we are following Xubuntu's Steps? [20:43] also, for powerpc, a switch to smp kernel will be done also [20:44] but it should not impact hardware support, just maybe a small impact on performance on 1 CPU hardware [20:44] I'm on GRUB2 and the daily build for 20032012 has Generic Kerenl :) I see [20:44] amjjawad, yes [20:45] gilir: I think, for lubuntu, that is excellent news. [20:45] we also finally pushed fixes for the the "empty icons in the systray", please test it :) [20:46] * phillw what, you mean my 3G device will not be a gap any more? :) [20:46] to finish, I'm working on the ISO sizes, by putting back some languages on the ISOs [20:46] gilir: that bug when you suspend and after that empty spaces will be on systray? I will test that coz I got a test laptop ;) [20:47] please ping me if you see oversized ISO for daily [20:47] Indeed [20:47] phillw, that's a different bug, I'm afraid [20:47] it should be 700MB and less, correct? [20:47] amjjawad, yes and yes [20:47] gilir: if you can keep the dailies cd sized, that would be one heck of an acheivement [20:47] gilir: thanks :) [20:48] darn paper cuts :( [20:48] that's all for me, any questions ? [20:49] Yes please [20:49] I can't run LSC :( [20:49] it crashes once I click on it and it is not loading at all [20:49] Lubuntu 32-bit daily build 20-3-2012 [20:49] amjjawad, please report a bug directly [20:49] ok will do [20:50] is it possible to add "Lock Scree" in Menu? [20:50] Screen* [20:50] amjjawad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs [20:51] amjjawad: requests are requests, bugs are bugs. [20:51] amjjawad, it's a bit late for 12.04 [20:51] gilir: ok :( [20:51] And besides, you can get lock screen with the shutdown menu and with Ctrl + Alt + L I believed [20:51] amjjawad: we open for requests soon after 12.04 launches. please feel free to request it for 12.10 [20:52] With other words amjjawad: make a list ;-) [20:52] I did that for Lubuntu 12.04 long ago but looks like I did not follow the correct approach [20:52] phillw, we have a lot of work to triage such requests / bugs, the bug tracker is full of them :( [20:52] MrChrisDruif: no, you can't do that for Lock Screen, you need to configure it ;) [20:52] amjjawad: well, you now know how to do it :) [20:53] phillw: i don't so i will ask u and u will help ;) [20:53] amjjawad, the right approcach is the bug report [20:53] which someone will turn it to a wishlist I guess [20:53] however, we have to clean our bug tracker a bit ... [20:53] gilir: hence my comment earlier about blitzing the out of date bugs that hang around like a bad smell. [20:53] as I did that with the Clippboard Manager issue [20:53] amjjawad; indeed, you are right: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F [20:54] gilir: as MrChrisDruif has scraped in late (he did let me know) could you give him the #topic? [20:55] phillw, it's a normal bug triaging process, we just didn't spend time on this recently :( [20:56] phillw, current topic ? it's in the title of the room, no ? [20:56] ok, let's move to the last topic, to finsih in time [20:56] gilir: MrChrisDruifWeekly report - Update from Docs team [20:56] #topic MrChrisDruif - Weekly report - Update from Docs team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: MrChrisDruif - Weekly report - Update from Docs team [20:57] Yeah, docs don't need much of your time ladies and gents [20:57] ok, thanks MrChrisDruif :) [20:57] Anyhow, I didn't see any bad links mentioned on the lubuntu-users and lubuntu-wiki mailing-lists so I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp can also be redirected [20:57] MrChrisDruif: we have some alterations to make over the switch of PAE [20:57] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp [20:58] phillw; I'll get to that later [20:58] #topic Any Other Business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: Any Other Business [20:59] And Jonathan I believe send some more human-readable code for removing old kernels [20:59] any other questions, you have 2 minutes :) [20:59] Thanks gilir, I wasn't done ^_^ [20:59] what is the name of the current login manager? it is same as the one in Xubuntu 11.10 [20:59] MrChrisDruif, arf sorry :( [20:59] ^_^ [20:59] ok ignore me, MrChrisDruif please go on [20:59] I'll try to update the wiki for removing old kernels asap [21:00] As far as going back to non-pae I'll have to check what needs to be done [21:00] in terms of documentation [21:00] AOB??? [21:00] well, we went to back to the situation we had on 11.10 [21:01] So no LightDM? [21:01] MrChrisDruif, I mean, for the non-pae kernel [21:01] Ah, okay [21:01] we still have lightdm, the same than xubuntu [21:01] And the login manager question of amjjawad, it's still lightdm unless something has changed? [21:02] amjjawad, ^ [21:02] Alrighty [21:02] it does not look like Ubuntu :( [21:02] I mean LightDM [21:02] amjjawad, yes, because it's another "greeter" [21:02] I see [21:03] and no way to make it just like Ubuntu coz it is too late, right? [21:03] amjjawad, it's too late, and we have to write a new greeter [21:03] Yup, but maybe it's an idea to post your idea about how the login manager should look to the design team? [21:03] ok, thanks gilir :) [21:04] ideas and mockups are always welcome :) [21:04] gilir: it is possibly worth a mention in the release notea? [21:04] s/notea/notes [21:04] phillw, the fact that we are using lightdm ? sure [21:05] with another greeter :) [21:05] I think I added in a release note for alpha or beta 1 [21:05] so everyone will be aware and in the loop ;) [21:05] More importantly, is there anything that was easy/obvious how to do/trivial in the previous greeter that is now harder/more obscure/impossible in the new one? If so, *that* should be documented. [21:06] Indeed, but I'm not informed enough about the big differences between the two login managers [21:06] Except for eye-candy that is ;-) [21:06] jmarsden|work, the greeter, I don't think so, unless you make theme of LXDM [21:06] jmarsden|work, the login manager, maybe yes, like the autologin stuff [21:07] Documetning "we are now using lightdm" doesn't mean much to novice users. DOcumenting "to change languages you now need to do THIS instead of THAT" might save some support calls. [21:07] it's now different [21:07] the configuration is also completly different than LXDM [21:08] Maybe this is something for the mailing-list? [21:08] MrChrisDruif, are you aware of any documentation about th elogin manager on Ubuntu ? [21:08] I wish LXDM will be much more better and will back to action in 12.10 [21:09] amjjawad, probbaly not, sharing this type of application which others devs is really nice [21:09] amjjawad: "much more better" is pretty subjective... make specific clear suggestions for improvements and they might have a chance to be added to lightdm :) [21:09] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin#Enabling_AutoLogin_from_command_line [21:10] jmarsden|work: will do my best to do that once I have some time :) [21:10] MrChrisDruif, thanks, so it should be the same on lubuntu for 12.04 :) [21:10] Afaict there isn't much help pages about lightdm [21:11] gilir; but the wiki might have more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM [21:11] MrChrisDruif: Sounds like a new "opportunity" for the Docs team :) :) [21:11] MrChrisDruif, this is more for testing and report bug, not really for users :) [21:11] Indeed [21:11] MrChrisDruif: go nag the xubuntu people, they went over last release :) [21:12] Ghehe, I'll see what pleia2 can tell me ^_^ [21:12] phillw, they should share this type of documentation ;) [21:12] MrChrisDruif: She will give you ever support that she can. [21:13] phillw; I know and she's involved with Xubuntu [21:13] MrChrisDruif, anything to add for documentation team ? [21:13] I'll see what info we've currently got about LXDM and try to hunt back all that functionality in LightDM and document it [21:14] MrChrisDruif, thanks, many users asked about this for LXDM, so I'm sure it will be very useful [21:14] I probably think this is a multi-week subject for the docs team (seeing I'm one of the only active ones around) [21:14] #action MrChrisDruif check to see what community documentation is available for LightDM [21:14] ACTION: MrChrisDruif check to see what community documentation is available for LightDM [21:15] thanks phillw :) [21:15] Thanks buddy ;-) [21:15] soz MrChrisDruif :) [21:15] MrChrisDruif: I will do my best to support you but I'm much more focusing on Comms Team right now :( [21:15] It's alright amjjawad, everyone's time is limited [21:16] yep :( [21:16] * phillw proposes #endmeeting [21:16] we are already late, so I'll finish the meeting if nobody have any other topics [21:16] +1 [21:17] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [21:17] Meeting ended Wed Mar 21 21:17:07 2012 UTC. [21:17] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-21-20.04.moin.txt [21:17] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-21-20.04.html [21:17] thanks everyone :) [21:17] gilir: thanks a lot :) [21:18] gilir: as always, thanks for herding cats. [21:19] gilir, ^^ === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk