[01:41] <pedrolucasp> Please
[01:42] <pedrolucasp> Someone has a link for any article better than the developer.ubuntu.com?
[01:42] <pedrolucasp> I mean
[01:42] <pedrolucasp> That site is amazingly incomplete!
[01:46] <thomi> pedrolucasp: what information are you wanting?
[02:00] <pedrolucasp> Sorry, I was not here
[02:01] <pedrolucasp> Well, I need know how to create an integrated menu for my app (is like an RSS reader
[03:13] <bschaefer> thumper, ping, you still around?
[03:30] <danieljj> Hola, alguien puede ayudarme, instale unos programas en wine pero no los encuentro
[03:30] <danieljj> no se donde aparecen en onity, en gnome los encontraba facilmente
[03:31] <danieljj> al escribir wine me aparece solo para configurar, no así los programas
[07:48] <apw> didrocks, bug #960503
[07:50] <didrocks> apw: how do you select the option?
[07:50] <didrocks> apw: I tried enter and clicking
[07:51] <apw> didrocks, am hitting enter, ALT<wait>new tab<wait for stable list>return
[07:51] <apw> and i get 3 tabs on this machine, and two on my netbook
[07:52] <apw> didrocks,  that was with a gnome-terminal, just also reproduced it on this same machine in chromium, i get two new tabs from the same sequence
[07:53] <didrocks> not sure if it's unity launching it or the service
[07:53] <didrocks> gord: ^
[07:53] <apw> in a fresh gnome-terminal i get 3 new tabs on this 64 bit install
[07:54] <apw> didrocks, ok on my 32 bit install i also get 3 new tabs in gnome-terminal
[07:55] <apw> didrocks, oh wierder it was 3 the first time, now two more sequential reproduces are only gving two matching my other install ...
[07:56] <apw> didrocks, definatly two new tabs in firefox as well
[07:57] <apw> didrocks, and if you take gnome terminal and copy some text, and then use ALTpaste<ret> i get 3 lots of the text inserted, so its a systemic bug
[07:59] <didrocks> apw: not sure if it has been fixed as I'm on the staging ppa
[07:59] <didrocks> and I can't reproduce even on my netbook
[07:59] <didrocks> did it start recently?
[07:59] <didrocks> or you got that since the last release?
[07:59] <apw> didrocks, can't say i use HUD much as the main windows i use don't have menus so it doesn't have anything
[08:00] <apw> didrocks, i noticed it in random feature testing yesterday for the first time, but can't say when i last tested
[08:00] <didrocks> apw: ok, thanks, let's see with gord, once he's here :)
[08:03] <apw> didrocks, sure, reproduced on my netbook too so perhaps a PPA thing
[08:05] <apw> didrocks, ok just confirmed that its either 2 or 3 of somethign when it happens, HUD:paste is pretty instructive, 3, 2, 3, 3, 2 lots of paste each time
[08:06] <didrocks> apw: frustrating that I really can't reproduce it :/
[08:06] <didrocks> apw: do you feel brave? and waiting to upgrade to the staging ppa? :)
[08:06] <didrocks> remove it then ;)
[08:12] <apw> didrocks, ok armed with ppa-purge, which ppa are you recommending
[08:14] <didrocks> apw: ppa:unity-team/staging
[08:15] <didrocks> apw: you should get a new compiz/unity
[08:15] <didrocks> (and all the family, nux, dee…)
[08:15]  * apw kisses his test box a fond farewell
[08:26] <apw> didrocks, ok with staging PPA install i cannot repro the issue
[08:27] <didrocks> \o/
[08:27] <didrocks> apw: awesome ;)
[08:27] <didrocks> so you should get the fix on thursday
[08:37] <mhr3> didrocks, re: Lenses were running before opening dash, are you able to confirm that? maybe the test is just wrongly worded, the primary thing is that the lenses shouldn't be running immediately after unity startup, they are launched automatically at some point (after a few seconds even without interaction with dash)
[08:38] <mhr3> i was checking here with jhbuild and i didn't see an issue
[08:39] <didrocks> mhr3: can't restart my main laptopt
[08:39] <didrocks> mhr3: let me try my netbook
[08:39] <didrocks> mhr3: the timeout is 60s, isn't it?
[08:40] <mhr3> it used to be, but that might have changed
[08:41] <mmrazik> mh3, didrocks: I tried it a while ago and it worked as expected
[08:41] <davidcalle> mhr3, I've noticed the Dash quicklist displaying again Lenses it shouldn't  (such as the utilities lens, which is a "hidden" lens), it didn't a few weeks ago. Might be related?
[08:41] <mmrazik> I logged out and in and there were no lenses running
[08:41] <mhr3> mmrazik, glad to hear that
[08:41] <mmrazik> you can also kill the lens and nothing happens until you activate it again
[08:42] <mhr3> so the wording is probably incorrect
[08:42] <didrocks> mmrazik: thanks! :)
[08:43] <mhr3> davidcalle, the quicklist item just reads the .lens files, so those need to properly state that the lens is hidden
[08:43] <davidcalle> mhr3, I know. I don't have it on this machine, I will check* but I m pretty sure it's fine.
[08:44] <mhr3> maybe the visibility check is missing in the quicklist item
[08:44]  * mhr3 checks
[08:44] <mhr3> nope, it's there
[08:47] <davidcalle> mhr3, hmm, for some reason the Utilities lens in the scopes PPA has a broken .lens file... My bad.
[08:47]  * thumper looks for kampstrup
[08:48] <thumper> mhr3: is there someone other than kamstrup that can review the unity-music-lens branches?
[08:48] <mhr3> thumper, perhaps njpatel? :)
[08:48] <thumper> hmm... both not here yet
[08:48] <mhr3> lamalex as well, but unfortunately he didn't approve it
[08:49] <mhr3> thumper, i'll ping them when they get here
[08:49] <mhr3> thumper, and if they won't i'll just approve it i guess?
[08:51] <thumper> mhr3: no, that is naughty
[08:51] <thumper> we'll get someone :)
[08:51] <mhr3> what can i say, i'm a naughty boy :P
[09:54] <bluefrog> open gnome-terminal, select hud, write open, select open tab. 2 tabs are opened instead of one. can you reproduce this on your pc?
[09:56] <gord> bluefrog, already fixed in trunk :)
[09:56] <bluefrog> k
[10:05] <bluefrog> something else. is there soemthing special to do for a program to be launched directly from the HUD? example  gnome-terminal in the HUD  + enter does nothing (same for all programs in fact
[10:05] <thumper> bluefrog: the hud is not for launching apps
[10:05] <thumper> bluefrog: but accessing menus
[10:05] <thumper> bluefrog: use the dash for that
[10:06] <bluefrog> thumper, thought I read in Shuttleworth blog that it would do that. sry then
[10:17] <bluefrog> dunno if this is the right channel. No more "create a launcher" menu under unity?
[10:51] <rye> empathy was able to create an empty launcher somehow - http://ubuntuone.com/2lWz3GDDXstuGWC0p6nDTZ
[10:51] <rye> can i somehow debug why?
[10:52] <rye> it is missing from the alt-tab and launcher but reacts to clicks
[10:55] <bluefrog> sorry launcher is not the word I should have used. shortcut to launch an app on the desktop for example
[10:55] <bluefrog> s/on/from
[10:56] <bluefrog> or a custom launcher on the menu would suit me as well though
[10:57] <bluefrog> for an sh script for example
[12:04] <tgardner> I have a dual display configuration. can anyone tell me why the launcher that used to appear on the left monitor has now jumped to the right monitor? Yet my normal applications (X-chat, mumble, thunderbird, chrome) are starting up in their normal places.
[12:14] <zgreg> unity from unity-staging ppa crashes for me when I exit from the workspace switcher
[12:14] <zgreg> this seems to be some kind of regression
[12:17] <popey> zgreg: how are you exiting the workspace switcher?
[12:18] <zgreg> clicking on a preview, or selecting with keyboard and pressing enter
[12:19] <popey> zgreg: does it do it for a guest user with no customisations too?
[12:19] <apw> didrocks, tgardner seems to have a setup where the super key is always showing the launcher on his right monitor regardless of the location of his cursor ...
[12:20] <didrocks> apw: something to ping DBO about I guess
[12:20] <didrocks> apw: nvidia?
[12:20] <apw> DBO, ^^ :)
[12:21] <apw> tgardner, ^^
[12:21] <apw> didrocks, i think this one is a mac, an intel one
[12:21] <tgardner> didrocks, nope, Mac mini w/Intel
[12:22] <didrocks> ok, let's see once DBO is around
[12:25] <zgreg> popey: I just checked. yes, it also crashes with the guest account
[12:28] <didrocks> tgardner: you are using staging?
[12:28] <tgardner> didrocks, nope, fresh update from this AM
[12:28] <didrocks> ok, on precise only?
[12:28] <popey> zgreg: I'd file a bug then. does apport popup offering to file a bug for you?
[12:28] <tgardner> my mirror synced about 3 hours ago
[12:28] <didrocks> (and you are using 3d, right?)
[12:28] <tgardner> didrocks, precise only, unity-3d (AFAIK)
[12:29] <didrocks> ok, let's wait then
[12:29] <tgardner> didrocks, hmm, how do I fgiure that out? I don't seem to have a compiz in my process list
[12:30] <didrocks> env | grep unity
[12:30] <didrocks> you have unity-2d showing?
[12:30] <tgardner> XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity
[12:31] <apw> didrocks, though if he has selected 3d, and its fallen back to 2d during login, will that be accurate ?
[12:31]  * apw has a compiz on his 'definatly 3d' login
[12:31] <didrocks> apw: that's possible yeah
[12:31] <didrocks> tgardner: and the process running, you don't have metacity and unity-2d processes?
[12:33] <tgardner> didrocks,  1975 ?        Sl     0:04 metacity
[12:33] <tgardner>  1992 ?        Sl     0:05 unity-2d-panel
[12:33] <tgardner>  1993 ?        Sl     0:12 unity-2d-shell
[12:33] <tgardner> didrocks, lemme logout and restart with 3d
[12:35] <tgardner> didrocks, I'm not actually given a choice of unity-3d
[12:47] <tgardner> didrocks, when logging in I noticed I _only_ have a unity-2d choice
[12:47] <didrocks> tgardner: did you remove the unity package?
[12:47] <didrocks> apt-cache policy unity
[12:47] <tgardner> didrocks, not on purpose.
[12:48] <didrocks> tgardner: btw, this behavior is the new one, -3d will have it soon as well
[12:48] <didrocks> apw: ^
[12:48] <tgardner> rtg@dearborn:~$  apt-cache policy unity
[12:48] <tgardner> unity:
[12:48] <tgardner>   Installed: (none)
[12:48] <tgardner>   Candidate: 5.6.0-0ubuntu4
[12:48] <tgardner>   Version table:
[12:48] <tgardner>      5.6.0-0ubuntu4 0
[12:48] <tgardner>         500 http://mirror/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[12:48] <didrocks> see ;)
[12:48] <didrocks> you removed it
[12:48] <didrocks> hence you have not the option at startup
[12:48] <didrocks> probably a partial upgrade
[12:48] <tgardner> didrocks, likely. how dod I reinstall ?
[12:48] <apw> didrocks, whats the new behaviour ?
[12:49] <apw> didrocks, he just did a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ would that not be expected to reinstall unity ?
[12:49] <didrocks> tgardner: apt-get install unity
[12:49] <didrocks> apw: if it's already installed, no, as it's a recommends
[12:50] <apw> erm its not installed ...
[12:50] <didrocks> I mean, if ubuntu-desktop is already installed
[12:50] <apw> didrocks, are we about to get a change in launcher behaviour tommrrow ?
[12:50] <didrocks> it's not a new recommends
[12:50] <didrocks> so not installed
[12:50] <apw> ahh ok
[12:50] <didrocks> yeah
[12:50] <didrocks> apw: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1b3CwE3Wemr347fTxNcu7ixEQBK4YD8JF2pyv5pxiY0U/edit
[12:51] <tgardner> ahh, launcher placement will be nice
[12:51] <tgardner> logging out to try 3d
[12:52] <didrocks> I just finished doing the gnome-control-center part, the new unity should support it
[12:52] <apw> didrocks, that sounds good... so will that be in unity-team/ppa today's updates ?
[12:52] <didrocks> apw: in fact, it's alrleady
[12:53] <didrocks> apw: you just don't have the interface for it
[12:53] <didrocks> I'll push it for beta2
[12:53] <apw> ahh when is the interface going to drop if we are getting the new location tommorrow
[12:54] <didrocks> I mean, I'll push the needed g-c-c at the same time
[12:54] <didrocks> apw: meanwhile, you should have the corresponding option in ccsm
[12:54] <didrocks> so setting the value in ccsm + setting the primary display should be the equivalent
[14:16] <apw> didrocks, so whats in unity-team/ppa is whats going into the archive on thu?  i should test that and whine?
[14:16] <didrocks> apw: not yet copied
[14:17] <didrocks> apw: still glitches
[14:17] <didrocks> on the staging ppa
[14:17] <apw> didrocks, oh ok, do poke me when its available i have some machines set up to test
[14:17] <didrocks> apw: will do!
[14:19] <tbf_> https://plus.google.com/photos/105507097221940492572/albums/5719805503513319441/5719805502928065218 ← might be worth to pick up that indicator panel's clock and settings button layout
[14:19] <tbf_> i like it.
[14:24] <davidcalle> kenvandine, ping
[14:27] <kenvandine> davidcalle, pong
[14:27] <davidcalle> Would you have the time for a video lens + scope upload before the freeze?
[14:28] <kenvandine> davidcalle, i'll do my best
[14:28] <davidcalle> Thanks a lot :)
[14:42] <mhr3> davidcalle, we'll need to tweak the video lens - i noticed it returns results for a query even after you changed the query
[14:43] <mhr3> to elaborate search for "abcdef" will return results for "a" even though you're already waiting for "abcdef"
[14:43] <mhr3> and since the webservice is slow, it's pretty distracting
[14:45] <davidcalle> mhr3, this is odd, as it's supposed to cancel running http queries when the search changes.
[14:46] <mhr3> davidcalle, just saying what i see
[14:50] <davidcalle> mhr3, let's blame dee then :p
[14:50] <mhr3> davidcalle, you're forgetting that dee is perfect :P
[14:51] <mhr3> right kenvandine? :)
[14:52] <kenvandine> mhr3, right you are!
[14:55] <davidcalle> mhr3, hmm, I cant reproduce it here (and my connection is quite slow). Maybe a bug involving server caching + the IP geolocation. (Ok, IP geolocation is a little far fetched, but what i'm seeing is that it works in my part of the world :P)
[14:56] <davidcalle> mhr3, I'll ask Chipaca to look into it.
[14:57] <mhr3> davidcalle, did anything change since 5.6?
[14:59] <davidcalle> mhr3, nothing on the scope side that would impact results this way. But I know that the server is still evolving.
[15:00] <mhr3> hmm, now that i'm testing it, i'm not really getting the issue
[15:11] <zgreg> popey: seems like the bug vanished with the latest update. I didn't find any ovious in the changelog, though
[15:12] <zgreg> I hope this is not a heisenbug
[15:12] <zgreg> by the way, how can I force unity to use glsl shaders?
[15:12] <zgreg> or rather nux
[15:14] <popey> pass
[15:20] <zyga> I just got a interesting unity bug
[15:20] <zyga> drag an icon from the launcher
[15:21] <zyga> while the icon is being dragged, trigger a share/notice me effect on that application
[15:21] <zyga> the drag is interrupted but a copy of the icon is left hovering
[15:24] <arges> didrocks, hello apw said I should contact you if i'm having critical unity bugs in precise. was wondering what the process was for sending a good unity bug and making sure it gets looked at
[15:24] <didrocks> arges: the easiest is first to report it with ubuntu-bug unity
[15:24]  * apw does a meercat impression ...
[15:24] <arges> didrocks, yup did that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/960532
[15:25] <arges> i assigned it to unity bugs, but it just got unassigned, so not sure if i'm doing something wrong
[15:25] <didrocks> arges: don't assign bugs to people
[15:25] <didrocks> om26er: can you please have a look to triage it?
[15:26] <didrocks> doesn't seem to be GPU related at all, not sure why bilahl asked you for it
[15:26] <arges> didrocks, ok in the future, ubuntu-bug unity should be sufficient for it to show up on your queue?
[15:27] <didrocks> arges: right
[15:27] <didrocks> if you see no upstream reaction at all
[15:27] <arges> ok thanks
[15:27] <didrocks> like 7 days frmo now
[15:27] <didrocks> poke me :
[15:27] <didrocks> :)
[15:28] <didrocks> but still, I guess there is a need for more information on this one
[15:28] <arges> didrocks, sure what kind of info?
[15:28] <didrocks> let's see what om26er traditionnaly do in this case :)
[15:28] <arges> ok
[16:01] <bluefrog> is, creating manually a .desktop file, the only way to create a shortcut on the desktop for example?
[16:51] <mhall119> tedg: would it be technically possible for the HUD to search only a sub-tree of a window's menu?
[16:55] <tedg> mhall119, Uhm, not really?  Why?
[16:56] <mhall119> tedg: I'm brainstorming
[16:56] <mhall119> about what HUD might look like if it replaced menus for browsing
[16:57] <tedg> mhall119, well, I guess, it's feasible with development work.  It's not feasible in today's code.
[16:58] <tedg> mhall119, we know the menu hierarchy, but we flatten it to make it search faster.
[16:58] <tedg> mhall119, We could keep more hierarchical data if needed.
[17:10] <jo-erlend> tedg, how could that possibly make the search faster? That seems counter intuitive to me.
[17:11] <tedg> jo-erlend, Because we always have to go over all the entires, and by breaking down the hierarchy early we effectively cache the parts of it we care about.
[17:12] <tedg> jo-erlend, so in the end there's no recursion, just a loop.
[17:12] <jo-erlend> tedg, right. But if you walk up the tree instead, then there will always be fewer items to check?
[17:13] <tedg> jo-erlend, No, not really, since the match could occur anywhere.  A search for "filter" could be "Effects > filter > blur" or in "document > filter results" so we have to do the whole tree everytime.
[17:15] <jo-erlend> right, but chances are you'll use tools from some submenus more frequently than others. I mean, for instance... In Audacity, there is one menu that I use far more often than anyone else, and that's the Effects menu. So if you begin at the effect I use and increase the "popularity" of each menu as you traverse, then you could begin at the most popular menu and search upwards from there. There will still be the same number of items to check.
[17:24] <jo-erlend> tedg, I see your point about  having to test all entries.
[17:25] <tedg> jo-erlend, We actually check popularity second, partially because the cost of accessing the DB is higher.
[17:25] <jo-erlend> however, testing the most likely nodes first will present the most likely results first, and it's highly likely that the user will interrupt the search by selecting the most likely result. That breaks the assumption that you have to test all the nodes.
[17:26] <tedg> jo-erlend, Yup, and we're getting there.  Unity should support proper updating with progressive results here soon.  Then we can do that optimization.
[17:27] <jo-erlend> ah, that's cool.
[17:28] <jo-erlend> tedg, what kind of database do you use for the popularity contest, btw?
[17:28] <tedg> jo-erlend, Just SQLite
[17:29] <tedg> jo-erlend, I imagine we'll move to Zeitgeist eventually though.
[17:29] <tedg> jo-erlend, that way we can start to coordinate the results with the document open.
[17:29] <jo-erlend> right. That's a must :)
[18:27] <mhall119> tedg: thoughts? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mhall119/HUD_Concepts
[18:29] <tedg> mhall119, I'm offended you use the cpu monitor indicator :-)
[18:29] <tedg> mhall119, I guess I don't think HUD will ever be useful for browsing menus.
[18:30] <tedg> mhall119, I don't think that is really a useful thing in general, if we can get good at people actually expressing intent (in their language) we shouldn't need to worry about where the item is located in a relatively arbitrary hierarchy.
[18:57] <zgreg> hmm, what's the preferred way to submit code? patch? bzr branch?
[18:58] <seb128> zgreg, launchpad merge requests
[18:58] <seb128> zgreg, http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/#coding
[18:58] <zgreg> so, I should create a branch with my changes and request a merge?
[18:59] <mhall119> tedg: Thunderbird has a tendency to get stuck and hit 100% CPU usage, so it's really a "time to pkill thunderbird-bin" monitor
[18:59] <zgreg> is that the preferred way even for single commits?
[18:59] <zgreg> alright, I'll read that
[18:59] <zgreg> mhall119: really? never happens to me :)
[18:59] <seb128> zgreg, read the 4 blue frames
[18:59] <mhall119> zgreg: there's been some discussion about what the "preferred way" is
[19:00] <mhall119> zgreg: I get the feeling it's my mbox files
[19:00] <seb128> zgreg, but it's basically branch lp:unity, hack, push to your lp:~user/unity/something, and merge propose on launchpad
[19:02] <mhall119> tedg: I'm thinking of a way to make HUD provide usable menus on non-desktop devices
[19:03] <mhall119> tedg: these HUD mockups wouldn't be all to different in appearance from my pre-HUD phone mockup: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/uphone/
[19:04] <mhall119> just add a search input at the top
[19:09] <bmoez> i tried to open shell/shell.qmlproject in qtcreator from the lastest source (unity-2D 5.7), i had problem in "import Unity-2d 1.0", i had installed libunity*, what is missing?
[19:10] <MCR1> have you seen the stereo-3d-compiz plugin ?
[19:13] <bmoez> ?
[19:26] <zgreg> alright, I definitely got to the root of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/927441
[19:26] <zgreg> nux is trying to be to clever
[19:26] <zgreg> *too
[19:28] <jalcine> heh don't they all.
[19:48] <mhall119> is libunity common between both unity and unity-2d?
[20:00] <mhall119> thumper: are you around?
[20:08] <MCR1> bmoez: It is a new compiz plug-in written by ddudek: https://code.launchpad.net/~ddudek
[20:09] <MCR1> bmoez: he had problems with integration to Unity, but this is his master degree masterpiece ;)
[20:10] <MCR1> it is a great plug-in adding 3d stereo possibility to Compiz/Unity and also having a very nice effect when bringing windows from the back to the front
[20:11] <MCR1> I have just seen he added additional stuff today
[20:11] <bmoez> MCR1:but, it is unity-2d not unity 3d
[20:11] <MCR1> bmoez: ?
[20:12] <MCR1> it is a plugin for Compiz, so it is 3d ofc
[20:12] <bmoez> the source that i tried to change is unity-2d 5.7
[20:13]  * jalcine uses Unity 4D.
[20:13] <MCR1> bmoez: misunderstanding - sry - I thought you asked about the plugin ;)
[20:14] <bmoez> :-)
[20:14] <rye> how should unity switcher behave when one window of the app is on one workspace and the second one is on another?
[20:15] <JanC> jalcine: a 4th-gen database language-enabled unity?
[20:15] <jalcine> JanC: you know it!
[20:16] <JanC> I once played with a trial version of 4D on DOS in the late 1980s or so  :P
[20:20] <bmoez> when i kill unity-2d-shell process, firefox close (opened from unity launcher) !!?
[20:23] <thumper> mhall119: in body, but not spirit
[20:24] <thumper> mhall119: my spirit is on calls
[20:24] <broder> i'm running into a bug where compiz seems to randomly create and map all-white windows and stack them above everything else. seems to trigger in particular either when i get a chrome desktop notification or (most recently) when i open a new tab
[20:24] <broder> is this a known issue?
[20:25] <mhall119> thumper: I think you should reverse that :)
[20:26] <mhall119> send the body to sit in meetings, let the spirit be free
[20:26] <mhall119> thumper: I'm re-thinking the sub-categorys for unity.u.c/getinvolved/coding, can you still see https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/14G-BDOxb6h9jI9DADHEC74Hhv6fp0yMk-4c8LmSiYGY/edit?authkey=CJbH-OUB ?
[20:41] <thumper> broder: known about, but if you can reproduce that would be awesome
[20:41] <broder> thumper: i can't reproduce it consistently
[20:41] <broder> but it happens probably about once a day or so
[20:42] <broder> usually it's about 200px wide x 10px tall, and just under the panel. today i also got one that was about 1000x1000 which was much more irritating
[20:48] <thumper> broder: the one thing that has come up though, is it seems to consistently be the desktop notifications that cause this issue
[20:49] <broder> thumper: with the exception of the larger-than-usual window i saw today, i would agree with that
[20:49] <zgreg> can someone review https://code.launchpad.net/~greg-chown/nux/bug-927441/+merge/98729 please?
[20:50] <zgreg> the bot is a bit stupid...
[21:05] <zgreg> nux seems quite inefficient... it does about 20 opengl calls for drawing one textured quad... no batching, and it doesn't even try to reduce the number of state changes
[21:05] <zgreg> there's probably a notable number of low hanging fruit that could speed it up considerably
[21:31] <jalcine> West