| snap-l | greg-g: Frankly all of those deal sites are assholes imho | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | was re: livinsocial | 00:05 |
| greg-g | snap-l: yeah, agreed, just someone else who has control of my credit card account likes them :) | 00:05 |
| rick_h | ruh roh | 00:05 |
| snap-l | brousch: while you were pushing out a turd sandwich, they pushed out an Ice Cream Sandwich? ;) | 00:06 |
| snap-l | Oh lovely | 00:06 |
| _stink_ | chocolate gelato | 00:08 |
| rick_h | ok, the sound quality is C+ at best, and I've not been able to work out with them to see if they stay in my ears, but the functionality of these things rock http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0052YFYFK/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details | 00:09 |
| snap-l | THat's not exactly a resounding review. :) | 00:12 |
| snap-l | Also looks uncomfortable as hell | 00:12 |
| rick_h | well, that's the thing I guess. My wired earbuds cost the same roughly, but the ability to do calls, controls for play/volume, etc are awesome. | 00:13 |
| rick_h | and the little magnetic earbug catchers is sweet | 00:13 |
| rick_h | it's not, that's the thing, you forget they're there | 00:13 |
| rick_h | morning | 12:37 |
| brousch | yes! | 12:39 |
| rick_h | anyone mastered tmux yet? Trying to create a two window session via cmd line | 12:41 |
| rick_h | and not quite getting it right | 12:41 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Haven't used it that way, so I'm not sure | 12:53 |
| snap-l | tmux new-window \; split-window -d ? | 12:55 |
| rick_h | snap-l: that was it, missing the escaping of the ; | 13:00 |
| jrwren | gmorning | 13:00 |
| rick_h | thanks | 13:00 |
| jrwren | what does the ; literal tell tmux? | 13:00 |
| rick_h | finished up the tmux book and have some ideas on creating some shortcuts for things | 13:00 |
| jrwren | why did tmux use ; ? sad them. | 13:00 |
| jrwren | i'm still on screen, cuz i'm nub | 13:00 |
| rick_h | tells tmux to run multiple commands on a line | 13:00 |
| jrwren | oh. so tmux 'new-window;split-window' would work nicely too? | 13:01 |
| rick_h | I can't get into the splits too much because I'm a bad mouse'ing copy/paster | 13:01 |
| jrwren | me too. | 13:01 |
| rick_h | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/570/ | 13:01 |
| rick_h | so I'm using that to setup my normal mutt/irc terminal, and I'll create others for things like bookie remote where it'll log into both my www and db server and such | 13:02 |
| rick_h | and for launchpad where I normally open a pair of terms so I can make run and still do filesystem/bzr commands in the other | 13:02 |
| rick_h | so going to try to create basically dev shortcuts that auto setup tmux sessions with all the windows/etc I need ready to go | 13:02 |
| jrwren | i start new screen sessions so rarely that i no longer script the window creation. | 13:42 |
| jrwren | i did at one time, but no more. | 13:42 |
| snap-l | The only one that I have scripted is for connecting to IRC | 13:43 |
| snap-l | so all I have to type is IRC, and it'll either connect to a current session, or start a new one | 13:44 |
| rick_h | yea, I've always started them up from awesome so I get the mutt/irc ones on the right desktop/workspace | 13:44 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/571/ | 13:44 |
| rick_h | snap-l: right, I'm using tmux has-session | 13:45 |
| snap-l | oh? | 13:45 |
| rick_h | doing the same thing, but getting two windows, one for mutt and one for irc | 13:45 |
| rick_h | yea, go back to the paste 570 | 13:45 |
| snap-l | Ah, I'll check that out | 13:46 |
| rick_h | so I can get it to start up in the background now, just have to -t to it now it looks like | 13:46 |
| rick_h | the attach part isn't working right from within autostart, but oh well, I'll just -t coms once the startup finishes | 13:46 |
| rick_h | but with bookie dev, I've gotten to where I need one terminal for git/file stuff, one to run the web server from, one I start/watch celery from, etc | 13:47 |
| rick_h | so want to automate that bit | 13:47 |
| brousch | anyone heard of MNX Solutions? http://www.mnxsolutions.com/ | 14:32 |
| brousch | they were apparently at pycon | 14:32 |
| rick_h | brousch: no, don't recall chatting with them | 14:33 |
| brousch | office in monroe | 14:33 |
| rick_h | cool | 14:34 |
| brousch | hm, nixternal follows them on twitter | 14:38 |
| jrwren | looks like they do some fun things: http://www.mnxsolutions.com/storage/terabytes-on-a-budget.html | 14:42 |
| snap-l | I think I've seen the logo, but that's about it | 14:42 |
| rick_h | cool, have the tmux scripting bits going I think http://paste.mitechie.com/show/572/ | 14:43 |
| rick_h | can't get it to auto attach a terminal to the session, but oh well | 14:43 |
| brousch | Oh, robert Citek works at MNX. He came to one of the Ubuntu Bug Jams | 14:48 |
| rick_h | hmm, that name sounds familiar | 14:48 |
| brousch | well, you were there too | 14:49 |
| rick_h | heh | 14:49 |
| brousch | he's also had a few posts to the ubuntu-mi mailing list | 14:50 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK | 14:50 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm too dumb to use google groups. | 15:14 |
| rick_h | ColonelPanic001: now now, it's not your fault...well maybe | 15:22 |
| ColonelPanic001 | :'( | 15:23 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm using google apps with a domain of mine - I made a "group", and emailing groupname@mydomain.org does send the email along to all members, looks like | 15:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | but, is there any kind of web interface for this, for "the internets" at large? | 15:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | something I can point to and say "go there and add yourself"? | 15:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I can manually manage the list fine if needed, not that big of a deal, but just expected there to be some sort of self-service option or something | 15:30 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and with that, my lunch group is heading out - back later | 15:30 |
| ColonelPanic001 | if anyone knows though, I'd love a PM | 15:30 |
| ColonelPanic001 | not critical though | 15:30 |
| rick_h | man I bought too many books last year... | 15:31 |
| jrwren | paper? | 15:33 |
| rick_h | no, ebooks mostly | 15:34 |
| rick_h | I think this last year was the great year for ebooks finally | 15:34 |
| jrwren | for you. | 15:35 |
| rick_h | yea, for me | 15:35 |
| snap-l | Yeah, same here | 15:58 |
| snap-l | I bought more ebooks than paper books, for sure | 15:58 |
| jrwren | https://github.com/tpope/vim-fugitive bookie suggested tags: openmetalcast clubmetal | 16:09 |
| jrwren | lol | 16:09 |
| rick_h | jrwren: heh, yea, I've got a fix for that in place, but not deployed I don't think | 16:15 |
| rick_h | it's picking up snap-l's last used tags on accident | 16:15 |
| greg-g | all tags shall be snap-l's tags | 16:16 |
| rick_h | heh, well guessing he's got the last bookmark in the system. | 16:16 |
| rick_h | in the api call it checks against your account, but in the online web form it didn't have the user filter | 16:16 |
| rick_h | so the chrome suggested tags would be right which is why I didn't notice them off on the webui | 16:16 |
| rick_h | man, tax time is getting depressing as the years go on | 16:17 |
| rick_h | I remember the good ole days when I could count on a nice refund to help my fresh out of college party budget :) | 16:17 |
| jrwren | just claim zero on your i9 and it will be fun again | 16:20 |
| rick_h | heh, I think we both cut down last year and still went over this year | 16:20 |
| rick_h | all those exemptions I used to get don't count any more :( | 16:21 |
| greg-g | yay new kid exemption! | 16:27 |
| snap-l | rick_h: What's fun is one of JODee's schools didn't take out ANY federal tax | 16:27 |
| snap-l | nada | 16:27 |
| rick_h | greg-g: woot | 16:27 |
| rick_h | snap-l: ouch | 16:27 |
| greg-g | snap-l: oh man, yeah, annoying | 16:27 |
| snap-l | Yeah, was fun to see the refund slowly whittled away | 16:27 |
| snap-l | Started with >$1k, and then wound up owing | 16:27 |
| rick_h | I just try to break even these days, but seems every year we adjust and every year we still owe | 16:28 |
| rick_h | gotta stop getting new jobs I guess | 16:28 |
| snap-l | Yeah,no kidding | 16:28 |
| * greg-g hasn't owed once yet | 16:28 | |
| * greg-g knocks on wood | 16:28 | |
| snap-l | greg-g: You have a kid now. :) | 16:28 |
| snap-l | Seriously, filing dependents really starts screwing with your taxes | 16:28 |
| greg-g | yeah, shit will definitely be changing in the future :) | 16:28 |
| * snap-l needs to tell J to just file no exemptions | 16:29 | |
| rick_h | heh, I remember when student load interest things would knock taxes down a ton, now we don't qualify for them to count for us | 16:29 |
| snap-l | because I think it's all because she follows the instructions | 16:29 |
| rick_h | yea, that's what we did the last couple of years and we've stopped that | 16:30 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Oh yeah, they love student loans | 16:30 |
| rick_h | not any more, once you're over a certain income they don't count. I went in with 10 sheets between my wife and I, just shredded them | 16:30 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Ugh | 16:31 |
| rick_h | anyway, getting the last bits together for things so figured I'd whine in irc like a big boy :) | 16:31 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Any chance of working for the railroads and developing a heavy gambling problem while living on a reservation? | 16:31 |
| rick_h | lol, I'll look into it | 16:32 |
| snap-l | SOmething for 2012 | 16:32 |
| snap-l | I'm sure there's someone out there that qualifies for every exemption out there, and has to be the luckiest person alive. | 16:33 |
| snap-l | and by lucky, I mean not terribly | 16:33 |
| snap-l | http://www.atlas-games.com/product_tables/AG2705.php | 16:38 |
| snap-l | greg-g, _stink_, rick_h, please read this to your kids. :) | 16:38 |
| rick_h | lol | 16:39 |
| jrwren | jus tthought of a cool byobu feature... a kb command to collapse expand the status bars. | 17:37 |
| jrwren | does that exist? | 17:37 |
| jrwren | show/hide whatever. | 17:38 |
| jrwren | hrm... just learned about ctrl-a $ in byobu, that is cool. | 17:39 |
| jrwren | hrm, i'm on ancient byobu apparently. 4.37 while 5.16 is latest. *sigh* | 17:41 |
| jrwren | i'm afraid to move to tmux and relearn all my ancient screen keys | 17:41 |
| rick_h | the water is warm over here | 17:41 |
| jrwren | but I'm ctrl-a all over the place! | 17:42 |
| rick_h | http://uploads.mitechie.com/books/tmux_p1_1.pdf | 17:42 |
| jrwren | I type ctrl-a,a for begin of line... always. | 17:42 |
| rick_h | I use ctrl-a | 17:42 |
| rick_h | you just change the map | 17:42 |
| brousch | warm water means someone just peed in it | 17:42 |
| rick_h | wheeeeee | 17:42 |
| jrwren | where is chapter for "migrating from screen" ? | 17:42 |
| rick_h | jrwren: didn't see it | 17:43 |
| rick_h | http://blog.yjl.im/2009/11/migrating-to-tmux-from-gnuscreen.html | 17:43 |
| jrwren | ty | 17:43 |
| greg-g | warning to my G+ followers, I just swore a lot | 18:39 |
| rick_h | lol | 18:39 |
| brousch | hm, i thought it would be related to the threats to your family you mentioned on twitter | 18:41 |
| greg-g | brousch: oh, yeah, I'm quite pissed off at this "romantic" hotel we were going to stay at in Tahoe. Yelled at Carrie/Rowan and made him cry, then this fucking redneck in a dirty white t-shirt came out of his room and stared me down and yelled at me and postured in a very "I'm going to hurt you if you don't leave" kind of way | 18:42 |
| brousch | geez | 18:43 |
| greg-g | yeah | 18:43 |
| brousch | sounds like a lovely place | 18:43 |
| greg-g | long story, but, we stayed at Best Western instead, with much bigger rooms for about a third the price (just no gas fireplace, oh well) | 18:43 |
| jrwren | wow, sounds shitty | 18:53 |
| jrwren | greg-g: keep yo head up | 18:53 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Sorry to hear that | 18:55 |
| snap-l | but remember, thereason to head out was to have a romantic get-away. :) | 18:56 |
| snap-l | so for fuck's sake, be romantic. ;) | 18:56 |
| greg-g | haha, we were :) | 18:56 |
| greg-g | and, SNOW! | 18:56 |
| greg-g | http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/sets/72157629624437481/with/6998768501/ | 18:56 |
| snap-l | This is not the first thing that comes to mind for Tahoe | 18:57 |
| brousch | first thing that comes to mind for tahoe: a chevy suv | 19:06 |
| tjagoda | Hola | 19:11 |
| brousch | blackberryboy is back! | 19:11 |
| tjagoda | If I am to have this title, I at least demand a cape. | 19:12 |
| tjagoda | I'm using XFCE | 19:12 |
| tjagoda | Like a boss. | 19:12 |
| rick_h | and I thought I was the guy stuck on the old tech | 19:12 |
| rick_h | :P | 19:12 |
| tjagoda | I was using KDE | 19:17 |
| tjagoda | but I got annoyed with it | 19:17 |
| tjagoda | now I use XFCE because its so similar to Gnome 2.2 =( | 19:17 |
| brousch | xfce would not sleep on my laptop | 19:20 |
| snap-l | xfce ate my baby | 19:20 |
| Blazeix | I set up xfce for my parents. "Use Friendly Names" is the best setting ever. | 19:23 |
| Blazeix | it renames applications in the menus, so like "OpenOffice Calc" -> "Spreadsheet" | 19:23 |
| snap-l | Does it rename "Gnome Disk Utility" to "Don't even THINK of touching this?" | 19:24 |
| jrwren | tahoe snow! | 19:43 |
| jrwren | haha... i forgot how cute babies are all bundled up for snow | 19:43 |
| greg-g | jrwren: :) | 20:36 |
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