[00:04] greg-g: Frankly all of those deal sites are assholes imho [00:05] was re: livinsocial [00:05] snap-l: yeah, agreed, just someone else who has control of my credit card account likes them :) [00:05] ruh roh [00:06] brousch: while you were pushing out a turd sandwich, they pushed out an Ice Cream Sandwich? ;) [00:06] Oh lovely [00:08] <_stink_> chocolate gelato [00:09] ok, the sound quality is C+ at best, and I've not been able to work out with them to see if they stay in my ears, but the functionality of these things rock http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0052YFYFK/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details [00:12] THat's not exactly a resounding review. :) [00:12] Also looks uncomfortable as hell [00:13] well, that's the thing I guess. My wired earbuds cost the same roughly, but the ability to do calls, controls for play/volume, etc are awesome. [00:13] and the little magnetic earbug catchers is sweet [00:13] it's not, that's the thing, you forget they're there [12:37] morning [12:39] yes! [12:41] anyone mastered tmux yet? Trying to create a two window session via cmd line [12:41] and not quite getting it right [12:53] rick_h: Haven't used it that way, so I'm not sure [12:55] tmux new-window \; split-window -d ? [13:00] snap-l: that was it, missing the escaping of the ; [13:00] gmorning [13:00] thanks [13:00] what does the ; literal tell tmux? [13:00] finished up the tmux book and have some ideas on creating some shortcuts for things [13:00] why did tmux use ; ? sad them. [13:00] i'm still on screen, cuz i'm nub [13:00] tells tmux to run multiple commands on a line [13:01] oh. so tmux 'new-window;split-window' would work nicely too? [13:01] I can't get into the splits too much because I'm a bad mouse'ing copy/paster [13:01] me too. [13:01] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/570/ [13:02] so I'm using that to setup my normal mutt/irc terminal, and I'll create others for things like bookie remote where it'll log into both my www and db server and such [13:02] and for launchpad where I normally open a pair of terms so I can make run and still do filesystem/bzr commands in the other [13:02] so going to try to create basically dev shortcuts that auto setup tmux sessions with all the windows/etc I need ready to go [13:42] i start new screen sessions so rarely that i no longer script the window creation. [13:42] i did at one time, but no more. [13:43] The only one that I have scripted is for connecting to IRC [13:44] so all I have to type is IRC, and it'll either connect to a current session, or start a new one [13:44] yea, I've always started them up from awesome so I get the mutt/irc ones on the right desktop/workspace [13:44] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/571/ [13:45] snap-l: right, I'm using tmux has-session [13:45] oh? [13:45] doing the same thing, but getting two windows, one for mutt and one for irc [13:45] yea, go back to the paste 570 [13:46] Ah, I'll check that out [13:46] so I can get it to start up in the background now, just have to -t to it now it looks like [13:46] the attach part isn't working right from within autostart, but oh well, I'll just -t coms once the startup finishes [13:47] but with bookie dev, I've gotten to where I need one terminal for git/file stuff, one to run the web server from, one I start/watch celery from, etc [13:47] so want to automate that bit [14:32] anyone heard of MNX Solutions? http://www.mnxsolutions.com/ [14:32] they were apparently at pycon [14:33] brousch: no, don't recall chatting with them [14:33] office in monroe [14:34] cool [14:38] hm, nixternal follows them on twitter [14:42] looks like they do some fun things: http://www.mnxsolutions.com/storage/terabytes-on-a-budget.html [14:42] I think I've seen the logo, but that's about it [14:43] cool, have the tmux scripting bits going I think http://paste.mitechie.com/show/572/ [14:43] can't get it to auto attach a terminal to the session, but oh well [14:48] Oh, robert Citek works at MNX. He came to one of the Ubuntu Bug Jams [14:48] hmm, that name sounds familiar [14:49] well, you were there too [14:49] heh [14:50] he's also had a few posts to the ubuntu-mi mailing list [14:50] Ah, OK [15:14] I'm too dumb to use google groups. [15:22] ColonelPanic001: now now, it's not your fault...well maybe [15:23] :'( [15:29] I'm using google apps with a domain of mine - I made a "group", and emailing groupname@mydomain.org does send the email along to all members, looks like [15:29] but, is there any kind of web interface for this, for "the internets" at large? [15:29] something I can point to and say "go there and add yourself"? [15:30] I can manually manage the list fine if needed, not that big of a deal, but just expected there to be some sort of self-service option or something [15:30] and with that, my lunch group is heading out - back later [15:30] if anyone knows though, I'd love a PM [15:30] not critical though [15:31] man I bought too many books last year... [15:33] paper? [15:34] no, ebooks mostly [15:34] I think this last year was the great year for ebooks finally [15:35] for you. [15:35] yea, for me [15:58] Yeah, same here [15:58] I bought more ebooks than paper books, for sure [16:09] https://github.com/tpope/vim-fugitive bookie suggested tags: openmetalcast clubmetal [16:09] lol [16:15] jrwren: heh, yea, I've got a fix for that in place, but not deployed I don't think [16:15] it's picking up snap-l's last used tags on accident [16:16] all tags shall be snap-l's tags [16:16] heh, well guessing he's got the last bookmark in the system. [16:16] in the api call it checks against your account, but in the online web form it didn't have the user filter [16:16] so the chrome suggested tags would be right which is why I didn't notice them off on the webui [16:17] man, tax time is getting depressing as the years go on [16:17] I remember the good ole days when I could count on a nice refund to help my fresh out of college party budget :) [16:20] just claim zero on your i9 and it will be fun again [16:20] heh, I think we both cut down last year and still went over this year [16:21] all those exemptions I used to get don't count any more :( [16:27] yay new kid exemption! [16:27] rick_h: What's fun is one of JODee's schools didn't take out ANY federal tax [16:27] nada [16:27] greg-g: woot [16:27] snap-l: ouch [16:27] snap-l: oh man, yeah, annoying [16:27] Yeah, was fun to see the refund slowly whittled away [16:27] Started with >$1k, and then wound up owing [16:28] I just try to break even these days, but seems every year we adjust and every year we still owe [16:28] gotta stop getting new jobs I guess [16:28] Yeah,no kidding [16:28] * greg-g hasn't owed once yet [16:28] * greg-g knocks on wood [16:28] greg-g: You have a kid now. :) [16:28] Seriously, filing dependents really starts screwing with your taxes [16:28] yeah, shit will definitely be changing in the future :) [16:29] * snap-l needs to tell J to just file no exemptions [16:29] heh, I remember when student load interest things would knock taxes down a ton, now we don't qualify for them to count for us [16:29] because I think it's all because she follows the instructions [16:30] yea, that's what we did the last couple of years and we've stopped that [16:30] rick_h: Oh yeah, they love student loans [16:30] not any more, once you're over a certain income they don't count. I went in with 10 sheets between my wife and I, just shredded them [16:31] rick_h: Ugh [16:31] anyway, getting the last bits together for things so figured I'd whine in irc like a big boy :) [16:31] rick_h: Any chance of working for the railroads and developing a heavy gambling problem while living on a reservation? [16:32] lol, I'll look into it [16:32] SOmething for 2012 [16:33] I'm sure there's someone out there that qualifies for every exemption out there, and has to be the luckiest person alive. [16:33] and by lucky, I mean not terribly [16:38] http://www.atlas-games.com/product_tables/AG2705.php [16:38] greg-g, _stink_, rick_h, please read this to your kids. :) [16:39] lol [17:37] jus tthought of a cool byobu feature... a kb command to collapse expand the status bars. [17:37] does that exist? [17:38] show/hide whatever. [17:39] hrm... just learned about ctrl-a $ in byobu, that is cool. [17:41] hrm, i'm on ancient byobu apparently. 4.37 while 5.16 is latest. *sigh* [17:41] i'm afraid to move to tmux and relearn all my ancient screen keys [17:41] the water is warm over here [17:42] but I'm ctrl-a all over the place! [17:42] http://uploads.mitechie.com/books/tmux_p1_1.pdf [17:42] I type ctrl-a,a for begin of line... always. [17:42] I use ctrl-a [17:42] you just change the map [17:42] warm water means someone just peed in it [17:42] wheeeeee [17:42] where is chapter for "migrating from screen" ? [17:43] jrwren: didn't see it [17:43] http://blog.yjl.im/2009/11/migrating-to-tmux-from-gnuscreen.html [17:43] ty [18:39] warning to my G+ followers, I just swore a lot [18:39] lol [18:41] hm, i thought it would be related to the threats to your family you mentioned on twitter [18:42] brousch: oh, yeah, I'm quite pissed off at this "romantic" hotel we were going to stay at in Tahoe. Yelled at Carrie/Rowan and made him cry, then this fucking redneck in a dirty white t-shirt came out of his room and stared me down and yelled at me and postured in a very "I'm going to hurt you if you don't leave" kind of way [18:43] geez [18:43] yeah [18:43] sounds like a lovely place [18:43] long story, but, we stayed at Best Western instead, with much bigger rooms for about a third the price (just no gas fireplace, oh well) [18:53] wow, sounds shitty [18:53] greg-g: keep yo head up [18:55] greg-g: Sorry to hear that [18:56] but remember, thereason to head out was to have a romantic get-away. :) [18:56] so for fuck's sake, be romantic. ;) [18:56] haha, we were :) [18:56] and, SNOW! [18:56] http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/sets/72157629624437481/with/6998768501/ [18:57] This is not the first thing that comes to mind for Tahoe [19:06] first thing that comes to mind for tahoe: a chevy suv [19:11] Hola [19:11] blackberryboy is back! [19:12] If I am to have this title, I at least demand a cape. [19:12] I'm using XFCE [19:12] Like a boss. [19:12] and I thought I was the guy stuck on the old tech [19:12] :P [19:17] I was using KDE [19:17] but I got annoyed with it [19:17] now I use XFCE because its so similar to Gnome 2.2 =( [19:20] xfce would not sleep on my laptop [19:20] xfce ate my baby [19:23] I set up xfce for my parents. "Use Friendly Names" is the best setting ever. [19:23] it renames applications in the menus, so like "OpenOffice Calc" -> "Spreadsheet" [19:24] Does it rename "Gnome Disk Utility" to "Don't even THINK of touching this?" [19:43] tahoe snow! [19:43] haha... i forgot how cute babies are all bundled up for snow [20:36] jrwren: :)