[04:14] Silent night [04:14] Good Morning [10:03] Morning. [10:11] morning JonathanD [10:12] Hey rmg51 [11:41] Hello JonathanD and rmg51 [12:29] science [12:30] SCIENCE! [12:30] * waltman sees that jedijf is also listening to XPN :) [12:37] always :) [12:38] well, in the office always [12:46] Well the program surely isn't science friday, so what is it about? [12:51] InHisName: music - she blinded me with science, thomas dolby [12:51] friday is funk friday's, of course [12:51] funky* [12:53] I C [14:45] I miss pennbot [14:46] Someone remind me again why PennBot isn't here. [14:49] If it is lack of resources I could run a supybot on my server [14:55] hi all [14:56] got a 4GB USB flash drive that's giving me errors when I try to reformat it. "Read-Only filesystem" I don't need to keep the data on it, just want to reformat it for normal everyday use. what should my next step be? [15:10] ummm, maybe --->sudo format ? [15:16] adom: unmount it and try [15:18] tried that [15:19] this is the first time ive ever seen this [15:19] a usb flash drive that won't let you delete the partition, format the partition, format the drive, anything [15:19] locked down [15:19] and no hardware switch/toggle [15:20] last shot is gparted. but need to download iso for that and boot into it. might do that in a few if i have to. [15:22] adom: what are you using, fdisk? [15:22] whatever will work, ill try fdisk [15:23] sudo fdisk to delete partition and then mkfs -t vfat to make [15:23] pick right disk/partitions [15:24] just had someone blow up internal playing with usb on sat [15:24] and then blame linux [15:43] im guessing the drive should be unmounted when fdisking? [15:45] jedijf: "unable to write /dev/sdc" [15:46] wtf is going on with this flash drive...read-only *drive*? its one thing to see a read only partition, but the drive was working fine but now its read-only...? [15:49] whats the method for writing zeros to a drive in linux? [15:49] nvm ill google [15:50] dd [15:50] yeah that [15:50] man dd [15:50] sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda [15:50] thx [15:51] i learned that signifys a corrupt disk [15:51] If it is full of zeros there is nothing to be corrupt [15:52] when i do dmesg | grep "\[sd" the drive hasthe write protect flag on [15:52] Are you zeroing the drive or a partition? [15:53] unsure, which should i try? dont care about contents of drive, just want it usable again [15:53] be sure all partitions on the drive are unmounted and then zero the drive [15:54] Why is it not usable? [15:54] its write-protected [15:54] readonly filesystem [15:54] cant delete partition or reformat drive [15:54] crazyballs [15:54] going to try dd [15:55] dd: opening `/dev/sdc': Read-only file system [15:55] craptacular [15:55] oh. Corrupt file system [15:55] /dev/sdc isn't a file system [15:56] oh, I see what you mean. Your disk might be bad [15:56] right, but corrupt file system shouldnt stop me from wiping the *drive* right? [15:56] oh [15:56] didnt think of that [15:56] i cna read the files on it fine, just can write/delete/modify [15:56] The disk gets marked as read only if it throws too many errors [15:56] that seems to make sense [15:56] so where am i looking for errors? [15:57] is there a mounting log i should look at? [15:57] /var/log/messages? [15:57] yea, or syslog. I forget where it appears [15:57] look for messages about errors attaching to the disk [15:59] this is all i got [15:59] /var/log/syslog:Mar 21 11:40:13 Hyperion kernel: [1119063.708844] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is on [16:33] ive had problems wiping disks with drive errors. I used a drill to drill several holes through it, then shattered the platter with a hammer. [16:33] brutal, effective, and cheaper than going to a psychologist [16:36] point taken [16:36] gparted was a flop [16:36] still sees drive as read-only [16:37] so, to sum up, every single method ive tried gives "drive is read-only" error of some sort [16:37] its like its 96 and im trying to get files from a 3.5 diskette and the little write-protect toggle is on [16:37] BUT THERE'S NO HARDWARE TOGGLE [16:38] btw, i was 12 in 96, just for those of you that are wondering [16:38] (i know you are) [16:38] and we had our spanking new Hewlett-Packard with WIndows 3.1 if i remember correctly [16:48] I was 17 and I had a P90 wih Win95. Win95 was released in 94 so I was probably running Win95b by then. [17:33] ChinnoDog: for one so young you have a bad memory [17:34] according to wikipedia 95 was released aug.24 1995 [17:35] 95b didn't come out till just before 98 was released [17:36] 95b was oem only [17:37] and somewhat a preview of 98 [17:41] Oh. I thought it was released in 94 [17:41] Maybe I preordered in 94? lol [17:42] 95b was oem only but it didn't stop us from aquiring it [17:42] We kids /had/ to have it.. because 95a was so choc full of bugs [17:43] Also, fat32 [17:45] adom: dareks boot and nuke [17:59] back from lunch. going to boot up a copy of darek's bootnuke i have [18:06] boot and nuke is a fail. when listing devices, it just lists the usb flash drive as "[????] Unrecognized Device" and i cant start the process [18:19] done. telling the student to take it back to where he got it and shove it up their butt. [18:19] with the reciept [18:20] receipt? [18:20] i always get ie/ei wrong [18:47] When two vowels go a walking the first one does the talking [18:47] kindergarten++ [18:47] except when they are friends... I guess. I don't know what other 'ie' exceptions there are. [19:23] Is PA doing another release party? [19:24] Wanna start one, cythes? [19:28] If I had the know how / cash yeah lol [19:29] cythes, it's really not difficult [19:29] cythes, just post to the list: i will be at with a laptop and party hat [19:30] Lol I would not know where to start one. [19:32] Go back to that place in Manayunk a while ago would be cool. But I live in pottstown so I would likely pick a place somewhere nearer... like the movie tavern in collgeville or something. [19:32] cythes, where do you live? [19:32] Pottstown [19:32] Well actually Just outside of Pottstown. [19:35] * jedijf was thinking manayunk again [19:41] Problem being I would need a ride too / from. Doubt anyone would want to run me back to P-Town since I can likely get a ride too. Unlike last time pleia2 / ChinnoDog are not in the area lulz [20:10] movie tavern! was there a few months ago [20:12] I would do on there... I just dont know how many people are in this local area of the Local people.