[04:14] <InHisName> Silent night
[04:14] <InHisName> Good Morning
[10:03] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:11] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:12] <JonathanD> Hey rmg51
[11:41] <InHisName> Hello JonathanD and rmg51
[12:29] <jedijf> science
[12:30] <waltman> SCIENCE!
[12:30]  * waltman sees that jedijf is also listening to XPN :)
[12:37] <jedijf> always :)
[12:38] <jedijf> well, in the office always
[12:46] <InHisName> Well the program surely isn't science friday, so what is it about?
[12:51] <jedijf> InHisName: music - she blinded me with science, thomas dolby
[12:51] <jedijf> friday is funk friday's, of course
[12:51] <jedijf> funky*
[12:53] <InHisName> I  C
[14:45] <ChinnoDog> I miss pennbot
[14:46] <ChinnoDog> Someone remind me again why PennBot isn't here.
[14:49] <ChinnoDog> If it is lack of resources I could run a supybot on my server
[14:55] <adom> hi all
[14:56] <adom> got a 4GB USB flash drive that's giving me errors when I try to reformat it. "Read-Only filesystem" I don't need to keep the data on it, just want to reformat it for normal everyday use. what should my next step be?
[15:10] <InHisName> ummm, maybe --->sudo format ?
[15:16] <jedijf> adom: unmount it and try
[15:18] <adom> tried that
[15:19] <adom> this is the first time ive ever seen this
[15:19] <adom> a usb flash drive that won't let you delete the partition, format the partition, format the drive, anything
[15:19] <adom> locked down
[15:19] <adom> and no hardware switch/toggle
[15:20] <adom> last shot is gparted. but need to download iso for that and boot into it. might do that in a few if i have to.
[15:22] <jedijf> adom: what are you using, fdisk?
[15:22] <adom> whatever will work, ill try fdisk
[15:23] <jedijf> sudo fdisk to delete partition and then mkfs -t vfat to make
[15:23] <jedijf> pick right disk/partitions
[15:24] <jedijf> just had someone blow up internal playing with usb on sat
[15:24] <jedijf> and then blame linux
[15:43] <adom> im guessing the drive should be unmounted when fdisking?
[15:45] <adom> jedijf: "unable to write /dev/sdc"
[15:46] <adom> wtf is going on with this flash drive...read-only *drive*? its one thing to see a read only partition, but the drive was working fine but now its read-only...?
[15:49] <adom> whats the method for writing zeros to a drive in linux?
[15:49] <adom> nvm ill google
[15:50] <InHisName> dd
[15:50] <adom> yeah that
[15:50] <InHisName> man dd
[15:50] <ChinnoDog> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[15:50] <adom> thx
[15:51] <passstab> i learned that signifys a corrupt disk
[15:51] <ChinnoDog> If it is full of zeros there is nothing to be corrupt
[15:52] <adom> when i do dmesg | grep "\[sd" the drive hasthe write protect flag on
[15:52] <ChinnoDog> Are you zeroing the drive or a partition?
[15:53] <adom> unsure, which should i try? dont care about contents of drive, just want it usable again
[15:53] <ChinnoDog> be sure all partitions on the drive are unmounted and then zero the drive
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> Why is it not usable?
[15:54] <adom> its write-protected
[15:54] <adom> readonly filesystem
[15:54] <adom> cant delete partition or reformat drive
[15:54] <adom> crazyballs
[15:54] <adom> going to try dd
[15:55] <adom> dd: opening `/dev/sdc': Read-only file system
[15:55] <adom> craptacular
[15:55] <ChinnoDog> oh. Corrupt file system
[15:55] <ChinnoDog> /dev/sdc isn't a file system
[15:56] <ChinnoDog> oh, I see what you mean. Your disk might be bad
[15:56] <adom> right, but corrupt file system shouldnt stop me from wiping the *drive* right?
[15:56] <adom> oh
[15:56] <adom> didnt think of that
[15:56] <adom> i cna read the files on it fine, just can write/delete/modify
[15:56] <ChinnoDog> The disk gets marked as read only if it throws too many errors
[15:56] <adom> that seems to make sense
[15:56] <adom> so where am i looking for errors?
[15:57] <adom> is there a mounting log i should look at?
[15:57] <adom> /var/log/messages?
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> yea, or syslog. I forget where it appears
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> look for messages about errors attaching to the disk
[15:59] <adom> this is all i got
[15:59] <adom> /var/log/syslog:Mar 21 11:40:13 Hyperion kernel: [1119063.708844] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is on
[16:33] <aurigus> ive had problems wiping disks with drive errors. I used a drill to drill several holes through it, then shattered the platter with a hammer.
[16:33] <aurigus> brutal, effective, and cheaper than going to a psychologist
[16:36] <adom> point taken
[16:36] <adom> gparted was a flop
[16:36] <adom> still sees drive as read-only
[16:37] <adom> so, to sum up, every single method ive tried gives "drive is read-only" error of some sort
[16:37] <adom> its like its 96 and im trying to get files from a 3.5 diskette and the little write-protect toggle is on
[16:37] <adom> BUT THERE'S NO HARDWARE TOGGLE
[16:38] <adom> btw, i was 12 in 96, just for those of you that are wondering
[16:38] <adom> (i know you are)
[16:38] <adom> and we had our spanking new Hewlett-Packard with WIndows 3.1 if i remember correctly
[16:48] <ChinnoDog> I was 17 and I had a P90 wih Win95. Win95 was released in 94 so I was probably running Win95b by then.
[17:33] <rmg51> ChinnoDog: for one so young you have a bad memory
[17:34] <rmg51> according to wikipedia 95 was released aug.24 1995
[17:35] <rmg51> 95b didn't come out till just before 98 was released
[17:36] <rmg51> 95b was oem only
[17:37] <rmg51> and somewhat a preview of 98
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> Oh. I thought it was released in 94
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> Maybe I preordered in 94? lol
[17:42] <ChinnoDog> 95b was oem only but it didn't stop us from aquiring it
[17:42] <ChinnoDog> We kids /had/ to have it.. because 95a was so choc full of bugs
[17:43] <ChinnoDog> Also, fat32
[17:45] <jedijf> adom: dareks boot and nuke
[17:59] <adom> back from lunch. going to boot up a copy of darek's bootnuke i have
[18:06] <adom> boot and nuke is a fail. when listing devices, it just lists the usb flash drive as "[????] Unrecognized Device" and i cant start the process
[18:19] <adom> done. telling the student to take it back to where he got it and shove it up their butt.
[18:19] <adom> with the reciept
[18:20] <adom> receipt?
[18:20] <adom> i always get ie/ei wrong
[18:47] <ChinnoDog> When two vowels go a walking the first one does the talking
[18:47] <ChinnoDog> kindergarten++
[18:47] <ChinnoDog> except when they are friends... I guess. I don't know what other 'ie' exceptions there are.
[19:23] <cythes> Is PA doing another release party?
[19:24] <InHisName> Wanna start one, cythes?
[19:28] <cythes> If I had the know how / cash yeah lol
[19:29] <ssweeny> cythes, it's really not difficult
[19:29] <ssweeny> cythes, just post to the list: i will be at <location> with a laptop and party hat
[19:30] <cythes> Lol I would not know where to start one.
[19:32] <cythes> Go back to that place in Manayunk a while ago would be cool. But I live in pottstown so I would likely pick a place somewhere nearer... like the movie tavern in collgeville or something.
[19:32] <ssweeny> cythes, where do you live?
[19:32] <cythes> Pottstown
[19:32] <cythes> Well actually Just outside of Pottstown.
[19:35]  * jedijf was thinking manayunk again
[19:41] <cythes> Problem being I would need a ride too / from. Doubt anyone would want to run me back to P-Town since I can likely get a ride too. Unlike last time pleia2 / ChinnoDog are not in the area lulz
[20:10] <aurigus> movie tavern! was there a few months ago
[20:12] <cythes> I would do on there... I just dont know how many people are in this local area of the Local people.