[04:06] <nuvolari> why oh why does this happen?
[04:06] <nuvolari> the only day I can sleep a bit later, but NOOO. have to be awake early :-/
[05:52] <Mezenir> early is awesome
[05:52] <Mezenir> have a nap later
[07:41] <Kilos> good morning superfly and others
[07:41] <superfly> morning Kilos!
[07:43] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:43]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:46] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[07:46] <Maaz> Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed
[07:46]  * superfly 's brother-in-law got married yesterday
[07:47] <Kilos> again?
[07:47] <Banlam> wifes brother?
[07:47] <Kilos> or did he only become you bil yesterday
[07:47] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:48] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:48] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:48] <Kilos> hi Banlam 
[07:48] <Banlam> morning
[07:49] <Kilos> hey inetpro 
[07:49] <inetpro> good morning everyone, and Kilos
[07:50] <Kilos> hehe
[07:51]  * Kilos goes to reboot
[07:52] <superfly> Banlam: yes, wife's brother
[07:52] <superfly> morning Banlam and inetpro
[07:52] <Banlam> that makes more sense than sister's husband
[07:52] <superfly> I don't have any sisters :-)
[07:53] <Banlam> now even more so
[07:53] <superfly> hehehe :-)
[07:53] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos he has been my brother-in-law for almost 5 years :-)
[07:53] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[07:59] <Kilos> hehe superfly i forgot you could have brothers in law from mrs_fly s side
[08:03] <superfly> Kilos: I have two of them
[08:04] <superfly> and two sister-in-laws too
[08:04] <Kilos> whew them yanks dont play hey
[08:04] <superfly> actually, I have 3 sister-in-laws, but not all on the same side of the family
[08:04] <Kilos> no wonder theres a fly epidemic
[08:05] <Kilos> aan getroude vliee
[08:06] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos, superfly, Banlam, inetpro 
[08:06] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[08:06] <nuvolari> congrats superfly 
[08:09] <superfly> fanks nuvolari, though I didn't even do anything
[08:10] <Kilos> lol
[08:17] <kodez> greetings everyone
[08:18] <kodez> how can i write a program in python that can manage the screen log on or off through network using python programming language?
[08:24] <kodez> which book is relevant to study about controlling the screen. something like Ctrl + Alt + L but happening in the source code?
[08:28] <Kilos> hi kodez 
[08:28] <Kilos> later guys
[08:29] <kodez> hi kilos
[08:42] <zeref> hmmmm
[08:43] <zeref> kodez: python socket programming
[08:43] <kodez> zeref: where can I study more about that?
[08:44] <kodez> zeref: i want to develop a program that manages kiosk terminals
[08:45] <zeref> i've not found a book about python sockets, but there are many tutorials online
[08:46] <zeref> kiosk terminals???
[08:46] <zeref> lemme google that
[08:49] <zeref> hmmm
[08:52] <kodez> zeref: ty
[08:53] <kodez> zeref: is writting a GUI going to solve blocking a person accessing the kiosk terminal without permission?
[08:56] <kodez> zeref: a conditional GUI that hides if the username and password is correct?
[08:57] <zeref> i'd first write a text based one, then if it works, add a GUI
[08:58] <kodez> zeref: i am failing to follow you.
[09:00] <zeref> for the program, first code it without a GUI, test it out, if it works then you can add a GUI
[09:01] <kodez> zeref: k
[09:02] <zeref> for the GUI are you planning to us wxwidgets ot qt?
[09:03] <zeref> *use *or
[09:13] <kbmonkey> happy day you geeks
[09:13] <kbmonkey> Maaz: coffee on
[09:13]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:16] <kodez> zeref: nothing specific at the moment
[09:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey!
[14:43] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro lyk of daar n groot storm van jhb af na ons kom
[14:44] <Kilos> hi bk
[14:44] <Kilos> grr
[14:44] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[14:46] <Kilos> bbl
[15:02] <Kilos> This problem report is damaged and cannot be processed.
[15:02] <Kilos> ValueError('need more than 1 value to unpack',)
[15:02] <Kilos> xubuntu xchat sucks some
[15:03] <Kilos> the preferences alert options dont work\
[15:03] <Kilos> grrr
[15:18] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos 
[15:19] <kbmonkey> shame your xchat is borked? :p
[15:20] <Kilos> no it works but cant get bloeps going on messages to me
[15:21] <Kilos> so gotta keep looking here if there any messages
[15:21] <Kilos> grrrr
[15:22] <kbmonkey> beeps?
[15:22] <kbmonkey> ha ha. yes my irssi doesnt bloep either
[15:22] <Kilos> and xubuntu comes with xchat as default 
[15:22] <dLimit>  /set bell_beeps on
[15:22] <Kilos> and i run a command to try make iftop see ppp0 and whole pc goes slow
[15:22] <Kilos> grrr
[15:23] <Kilos> ya beeps
[15:23] <dLimit> then /set beep_msg_level msg notice hilight
[15:23] <kbmonkey> yes iftop is a admin tool, not meant for everyday use
[15:23] <Kilos> dLimit, must i do that here or in the terminal
[15:23] <kbmonkey> unless you troubleshoot a network
[15:23] <dLimit> No in irssi
[15:24] <dLimit> Oh wait its /set beep_msg_level msgs notice hilight
[15:24] <kbmonkey> ah, thanks dLimit :)
[15:25] <dLimit> And make sure kernel module pcspkr is loaded
[15:25] <kbmonkey> i wrote a script to monitor messages and print them to a conky output. but that got annoying.
[15:25] <dLimit> There is a way to play a sound through default alsa sound card but I forgot how that is done
[15:26] <kbmonkey> mpg123
[15:26] <kbmonkey> hehe
[15:26] <kbmonkey> or just play
[15:27] <Kilos> this xchat gives you the option to use alsa or pulse but neither work
[15:27] <Kilos> but pidgin works kiff
[15:28] <kbmonkey> doesnt each app have it's own volume level?
[15:28] <kbmonkey> in xubuntu i mean? if it uses pulse...? 
[15:28] <kbmonkey> just guessing here, not too familiar with what xubuntu uses
[15:30] <Kilos> in settings preferences you get options to beep in alerts and flash icons but they dont work even though xchat looks the same
[15:33] <kbmonkey> those are window manager signals. perhaps xchat has gnome support but not kde
[15:33] <kbmonkey> does xchat come on xubuntu by default or is there another irc client it uses?
[15:34] <kbmonkey> i almost imagine there is a kde one..
[15:34] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ya default
[15:35] <Kilos> quassel is the kde one
[15:37] <Kilos> xchat and pidgin are default on xubuntu
[15:37] <kbmonkey> quassel will probably give you proper sound+notifications
[15:37] <Kilos> many many megs data to get quassel
[15:37] <Kilos> lotsa kde stuff
[15:40] <kbmonkey> but xubuntu has kde and quassel already??
[15:41] <kbmonkey> im confused Kilos :)
[15:41] <Kilos> no
[15:41] <Kilos> xfce
[15:41] <kbmonkey> ooooh
[15:41] <Kilos> you thinking of kubuntu
[15:41] <Kilos> you wanna borrow my email addy
[15:42] <kbmonkey> ah sharp man
[15:47] <Kilos> lol
[15:47]  * Kilos cackles. kbdomdonner
[15:49] <Kilos> or wwdomdonner
[15:51] <kbmonkey> borrow it for what now?
[15:51] <Kilos> for the domdonner bit
[15:51] <Kilos> quassel in xubuntu
[15:52] <kbmonkey> ha ha! jou duiwel
[15:52] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[15:52] <kbmonkey> ill be back after supper oom
[15:52] <Kilos> cool enjoy
[15:53] <Kilos> ill be back later too. take a break from xubuntu
[15:53] <dLimit> How long does it take for pinterest to send invites?
[15:54] <dLimit> I've requested it on all my addresses and still nothing
[15:57] <dLimit> I NEED to use it before it becomes cool
[16:10] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:10]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[16:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:15] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[16:15] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[17:22] <Kilos> yo geeks
[17:23] <Mezenir> you called ?
[17:23] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[17:24] <Mezenir> how goes
[17:24] <Kilos> thought i was just rattling the cage
[17:24] <Mezenir> is there a reason it would be a bad idea to run an ntpd daemon ?
[17:24] <Kilos> ok ty and there?
[17:24] <Mezenir> on the one hand it seems nice to always have time synced
[17:24] <Mezenir> so yah
[17:24] <Kilos> what does it do first
[17:24] <Mezenir> pretty good thanks
[17:25] <Mezenir> it asks a central server for the current time
[17:25] <Kilos> what do you wanna sync time with
[17:25] <Mezenir> and sets your system to it
[17:25] <Kilos> ah
[17:25] <Kilos> you can sync time with server without installing anything
[17:26] <Kilos> somewhere in settings is something you activate and it does it automatically
[17:27] <Kilos> i member i disbled mine because it checks every 10 secs or so
[17:27] <kbmonkey> big storm brewing here
[17:27] <kbmonkey> looks like hail :/
[17:27] <Kilos> we had one earlier kbmonkey 
[17:36] <Mezenir> mmm
[17:36] <Mezenir> maybe its installed by default in xubuntu
[17:36] <Mezenir> and you had to disable it
[17:36] <Kilos> no that was with maverick
[17:36] <Mezenir> or that
[17:36] <Kilos> what are you using
[17:36] <Mezenir> arch
[17:36] <Kilos> ah
[17:37] <Mezenir> learned a lot
[17:37] <Mezenir> but it takes me a while
[17:37] <Mezenir> lol
[17:38] <Kilos> it takes some of us even longer, dont worry
[17:38] <Mezenir> hehe
[17:47] <Kilos> bbl
[18:21] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:21]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:24] <Kilos> a:\install
[18:24] <Kilos> grrr
[18:24] <Kilos> what a:\ its a stiffy
[18:24] <Kilos> whats a stiffy
[18:25] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:25] <Kilos> known by geeks as a floppy
[18:25] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:25] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:26] <Kilos> nuvolari, lewe jy darem nog
[18:38] <magespawn> Eveing all, i trust everyone had a good holiday
[18:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn was it a holiday
[18:39] <magespawn> Workers day
[18:39] <Banlam> workers day is 1st of may
[18:39] <Banlam> today was human rights
[18:39] <Kilos> so why werent you working then
[18:39] <Kilos> oh
[18:40] <magespawn> Sorry my mistake
[18:40] <Kilos> hehe
[18:40] <magespawn> Not my right
[18:40] <Kilos> hehe
[18:40] <Banlam>  are you not human?
[18:41] <magespawn> I am last time I checked
[18:42] <Kilos> did you have a good holiday magespawn 
[18:42] <magespawn> Was refering to being wrong and not right about the holiday
[18:42] <magespawn> Yes did work around the house got a web and mail server running on my home pc
[18:43] <Kilos> human rights only count if you are stinking rich
[18:43] <Kilos> well done and what about the kids windows
[18:44] <magespawn> I am using a package called xampp which runs on windows
[18:49] <magespawn> Has apache, msyql and such to run a website plus email server ftp server
[18:49] <Banlam> does the second p stand for pop?
[18:49] <Kilos> good
[18:49] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] <magespawn> Yes runs pop and imap
[18:50] <Banlam> cool
[18:50] <Banlam> do you have a fixed IP then?
[18:50] <Banlam> linked to a domain?
[18:51] <magespawn> No this is just for home at the moment for practice, i am looking into setting up a WUG
[18:51] <Banlam> ah, cool
[18:51] <Banlam> whereabout are you?
[18:51] <magespawn> Hluhluwe
[18:51] <Banlam> in the kruger park?
[18:52] <magespawn> No KZN
[18:52] <Kilos> banlam natal north coast
[18:52]  * Banlam tries to figure out why he's confused
[18:52] <Banlam> i know the name
[18:53] <Banlam> think family might have a place there
[18:53] <magespawn> Whobare the family?
[18:53] <Banlam> rennie
[18:54] <Banlam> don't know who owns the house though
[18:54] <magespawn> Where does she work?
[18:54] <Banlam> no, it's a holiday house
[18:55] <Kilos> lol
[18:56]  * Banlam goes to google maps
[18:56] <magespawn> In the town? Or on one of the game reserves?
[18:57] <magespawn> Kilos has what has been happening with the linux studies?
[18:58] <Kilos> magespawn, i been fighting xubuntu and not looked at studies for a week
[18:58] <magespawn> Do you know if any one else has?
[18:59] <Kilos> xubuntu gives lotsa probs and does stupid things
[18:59] <Kilos> i dont think so
[18:59] <Kilos> everyone is too busy
[19:00] <magespawn> Though I was the only one slacking off, do not feel so bad now.
[19:00] <Kilos> ha ha ha i will get back to it as soon as xubuntu works
[19:00] <magespawn> What are you still fighting with?
[19:01] <Kilos> stupid things like no sound in xchat
[19:01] <Kilos> and it shows 2 homes and archives but they arent the same
[19:02] <Kilos> and synaptic doesnt see whats in archives copied there from cli
[19:02] <Kilos> so wants to download again what you already have
[19:03] <Kilos> also i use same commands that i used for maverick to get iftop to use ppp0 not eth0 and pc goes slow
[19:03] <Kilos> grrr
[19:04] <Kilos> if it wasnt for data use everytime i would have tried the alternate cd by now
[19:04] <magespawn> Sounds like a conflict, thats my experience when things slow up a lot
[19:05] <magespawn> Is there some near you with iso?
[19:05] <Kilos> i have the alt cd as well
[19:05] <Kilos> got them from the fly
[19:05] <magespawn> Just the updates then, which can be a bit
[19:07] <Kilos> updating is tween 20 and 40 meg if you copy all packages over properly
[19:07] <Kilos> otherwise its 2 to 300m
[19:08] <magespawn> What a pain.
[19:08] <Kilos> but its crazy things like if you look in home you should get a file .xchat2
[19:08] <Kilos> it isnt there
[19:08] <Kilos> yeah kinda frustrating
[19:09] <Kilos> must have been a bad install i think
[19:09] <magespawn> Something went wrong somewhere that us for certain.
[19:10] <magespawn> Is
[19:10] <Kilos> yeah i think so too. lucky i didnt upgrade my maverick
[19:10] <Kilos> so i got one good reliable os
[19:12] <magespawn> I see gc is still with us.
[19:12] <Kilos> ya i have coffee now and again to keep her company
[19:13] <Kilos> but she is very cheeky
[19:13] <magespawn> Assuming female are we? Or are all bots female?
[19:13] <magespawn> gc coffee please
[19:13] <gc> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[19:13] <magespawn> gc coffee
[19:13] <gc> magespawn: coffee is served with pastry
[19:14] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <Kilos> gc coffee on
[19:14]  * gc puts the kettle on
[19:14] <Kilos> call her a swine
[19:14] <magespawn> gc coffee for  magespawn
[19:14] <gc> magespawn: Excuse me?
[19:15] <magespawn> I want coffee gc
[19:15] <magespawn> gc I want coffee
[19:15] <gc> magespawn: Sorry...
[19:15] <Kilos> you gotta ask nicely
[19:15] <magespawn> gc go get lost
[19:15] <gc> magespawn: *blink*
[19:15] <Kilos> gc coffee please
[19:15] <gc> Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[19:16] <magespawn> gc coffee please
[19:16] <gc> magespawn: Righto
[19:16] <magespawn> Ahh
[19:16] <Kilos> gc swine
[19:16] <gc> Kilos: Sorry...
[19:16] <Kilos> gc fool
[19:16] <gc> Piss off Kilos
[19:16] <Kilos> ouch
[19:16] <magespawn> Okay then.
[19:18] <gc> Coffee's ready for Kilos and magespawn!
[19:18] <Kilos> gc thanks
[19:18] <gc> no probs, Kilos
[19:18] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn 
[19:19] <Kilos> old maaz has better manners
[19:20] <nlsthzn> Hi uncle Kilos 
[19:23] <magespawn> Hi nlsthzn
[19:23] <nlsthzn> Greetings magespawn 
[19:24] <magespawn> How was your holiday?
[19:25] <Kilos> lol they got no rights
[19:25] <Kilos> gotta live on dates and camels milk
[19:26] <nlsthzn> hehe
[19:26] <nlsthzn> All well... time to get my backside into action... 
[19:26] <nlsthzn> been lazy to long now
[19:26] <nlsthzn> also, still can't get to work because still no security pass
[19:27] <Kilos> eish
[19:27] <Kilos> what happened to your pass
[19:27] <nlsthzn> expired
[19:27] <nlsthzn> and my visa renewel took long so now everything got late...
[19:27] <Kilos> one would think they know you by now
[19:28] <nlsthzn> already missed one work cycle :/
[19:28] <nlsthzn> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> eish
[19:28] <nlsthzn> annoying as hell
[19:28] <Kilos> must be
[19:28] <nlsthzn> if this keeps up they will realize they don't need me o0
[19:29] <Kilos> eina
[19:29] <nlsthzn> oh well
[19:36] <Kilos> night guys , sleep tight
[19:36] <Kilos> see yas morrow
[19:38] <magespawn> Night all.
[20:24] <nlsthzn> !alot
[20:24] <nlsthzn> Maaz, alot
[20:24] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Huh?
[20:25] <nlsthzn> lol
[20:25] <nlsthzn> now which channel was that bot?!
[20:30] <queery> maaz slap nisthzn
[20:30] <Maaz> queery: *blink*
[20:33] <nlsthzn> lol
[20:33] <nlsthzn> tab not working for you queery ?
[20:34] <queery> on my phone so no tadb
[20:35] <queery> maaz slap nlsthzn
[20:35] <Maaz> queery: *blink*
[20:35] <nlsthzn> ah ok :)
[20:35] <queery> maaz is not violent???