[00:00] <ikonia> jbreher: you don't login to the gui as "root"
[00:00] <ikonia> jbreher: the root account is disabled
[00:01] <jbreher> I understand - but when I launch (e.g.) Synaptic, it prompts for pw. I enter, it kicks me. Same pw works in shell
[00:01] <ikonia> jbreher: your user account needs to be a member of the "admin" group
[00:02] <jbreher> ikonia - thanks - I'll check
[00:02] <tbruff13> beandog, what do i do next is that fileit
[00:02] <jbreher> groups reports I am a member of admin
[00:03] <ikonia> jbreher: so if you do "sudo apt-get update" it prompts you for a password and works fine ?
[00:03] <jbreher> ikonia - correct. the shell recognizes the pw. the gui does not
[00:03] <ikonia> jbreher: how are you launching the gui applications ?
[00:04] <ikonia> jbreher: eg: system -> administration menu ?
[00:04] <jbreher> from the menu launcher (e.g. System > Administration > Synaptic...)
[00:04] <ikonia> jbreher: test it "gksudo synaptic"
[00:05] <jbreher> ikonia: you mean launch by entering 'gksudo synaptic' in shell?
[00:05] <ikonia> yes
[00:06] <jbreher> ikonia: prompts for pw, I enter, launches Synaptic in GUI
[00:07] <jbreher> so I guess that is a clue, but now how to fix?
[00:07] <beandog> tbruff13: whats that?
[00:08] <tbruff13> beandog, what do i do after editing the file to finish setting the keys is that it
[00:08] <beandog> tbruff13: oh.  xmodmap .xmodmap file
[00:08] <tbruff13> beandog, ok
[00:08] <beandog> tbruff13: er, xmodmap <filename>
[00:09] <tbruff13> im following a guide and cross checking it aganist yoru advice
[00:09] <tbruff13> i trust you more then some possibly outdated guide
[00:10] <beandog> tbruff13: okay got it, save the config file to ~/.Xmodmap
[00:10] <beandog> tbruff13: that should load it on starting an X11 session
[00:10] <tbruff13> i did that
[00:10] <beandog> tbruff13: k if you dont wanna logout, just run xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[00:10] <tbruff13> beandog, the KDE says set it up with KDE as well
[00:10] <beandog> same effect
[00:11] <beandog> tbruff13: is it not getting set when you login?
[00:11] <tbruff13> beandog, it is not skipping songs in banshee
[00:11] <beandog> tbruff13: does banshee normally work with that?
[00:12] <tbruff13> beandog, in mint it did
[00:12] <tbruff13> in mint every song application i had worked with those keys
[00:13] <tbruff13> beandog, let me finish this guide out for setting it up with KDE before i file a bug
[00:13] <lololjay> will songbird ever be supported again by ubuntu
[00:13] <beandog> tbruff13: check this out too, I gotta run: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Multimedia_Keys
[00:13] <tbruff13> beandog, already did thanks
[00:15] <beandog> tbruff13: np, good luck.  Just worry about getting the keypress events registered first (hittting fn+f12 actually returns a keycode).  Then you can map the keycodes to specific commands
[00:16] <beandog> k I'm outta
[00:16] <MrKeuner> is there a way to see what's new in the package synaptic suggest upgrading?
[00:17] <ldz420> does anyone know of grub repair tool that is loaded on the ubuntu live cd?
[00:17] <PsyberS`> i made a customized livecd (based on the wiki howto) and was wondering what it takes to make ubiquity boot into the desktop, instead of prompting to use the desktop or install (as this cd will be used solely for desktop mode)?
[00:19] <PsyberS`> should i simply remove ubiquity?
[00:19] <jbreher> how can I get GUI to recognize admin/root password?
[00:21] <dem0n> hey guys if i wanted to add an icon to
[00:21] <mkultra_> alt+f2 gksu command
[00:21] <mkultra_> thats directed at jbreher
[00:21] <ZZZyyy> O
[00:21] <mkultra_> go on demon
[00:22] <dem0n> if i wanted to add an icon to my desktop but inorder for the application to run i need to do this on the terminal "mono /path/to/app" for it run, what would i need to put in the command section for the icon (using kde) ?
[00:22] <dem0n> ofcourse i have tried "mono /path/to/app.exe" however it doesn't work...
[00:23] <yyyZZZ> O
[00:23] <jbreher> mkultra: that only seems to work for invocation from shell?
[00:24] <chris_is_me> dem0n: do you have a "
[00:24] <chris_is_me> dem0n: "run in terminal box"
[00:24] <lololjay> can anyone recommend a good music/media player similar to itunes/winamp. I'm really after that cover flow feeling..... i have tried banshee,rhythmbox,gmusicbrowser,gnome player ect... I dont care for the style of any of them it's hard to track down things at times
[00:24] <dem0n> ya i have tried "" for the path to the app and tried it without quotes and it doesn't work...
[00:26] <dem0n> when i added a wine app i did this -> "env WINEPREFIX="/root/.wine" /root/path/to/app.exe and that worked
[00:26] <dem0n> but i am new with mono so i am not really sure what i need to do...?
[00:26] <dem0n> and i would like to add it to
[00:26] <dem0n> and i would like to add this icon to my desktop...
[00:26] <user_____> hey guys, I am trying to edit my sources.list...how can I make the file save? (i am trying to do this out of terminal)
[00:27] <ldz420> you will have to edit it with sudo user___
[00:27] <user_____> lzdz420: how
[00:28] <ldz420> oh sudo gedit sources.list
[00:29] <ntr0py> How can i configure evolution to use multiple separate contact lists? As for now mine behaves like all contact lists are one big one, i cant edit them individualy?!
[00:29] <ldz420> type the password >> the file will open >> edit file>> and save
[00:29] <user_____> lzdz420: but that opens in /home/user/ ...sorry to be a pain...how do i edit the specific file in the directory etc/apt/sources.list
[00:30] <dem0n> do you guys think i should try "run in the terminal" for the icon when i need to run a .exe file with mono?
[00:30] <chris_is_me> user_____: sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:30] <chris_is_me> dem0n: yes
[00:30] <user_____> chirs_is_me: thank you
[00:30] <ldz420> user__: you have to specify the file location
[00:31] <lololjay> is there a hackintosh server
[00:31] <lololjay> ?
[00:31] <Guest38857> i am still seeing an 11.10 bootscreen despite being on 12.04
[00:32] <Guest38857> fixes?
[00:33] <Fyodorovna> Guest20452, #ubuntu+1 is the channel.
[00:33] <SumoJim> I've found gnome-power-preferences and gnome-session-properties for disabling power managemnt, is there a way to do this from the command line?
[00:33] <Fyodorovna> Guest38857, ^^^
[00:34] <lugsn> cuanta gente .. alguien de argentina ?
[00:35] <Fyodorovna> !es
[00:36] <dem0n> chris_is_me: i will give it a shot, and see if running it a terminal and see if it works...
[00:37] <chris_is_me> dem0n: good luck
[00:37] <lugsn> ok ! ,
[00:38] <zykotick9> !gksu | chris_is_me user_____
[00:40] <keithzz> Still wasn't able to find PL2303X driver for ubuntu..Anyone found it?
[00:40] <chris_is_me> zykotick9: i figured it wasn't excatly a graphical app
[00:41] <zykotick9> chris_is_me: gedit?  what would it be ;)
[00:41] <chris_is_me> zykotick9: oh ya that, lol i anways just use sudo instead of gksu never had issues
[00:42] <zykotick9> chris_is_me: it's a bad idea, and could bite you in future.  certainly, that is a !wfm situation.
[00:42] <zykotick9> !wfm | chris_is_me
[00:42] <chris_is_me> zykotick9: could be bad, only time i really use sudo is for apt and gedit
[00:44] <ntr0py> How can i delete an address book in evolution?
[00:49] <A-KO^^> I'm trying to use a command line media player, is that possible? mplayer is saying cannot find libgl something or another.
[00:49] <dem0n> hmm...it didn't work when i tried to run the application that needs mono "in a terminal"
[00:49] <dem0n> i am trying to add an icon for a .exe program that needs "mono" inorder for it be executed
[00:50] <phn> A-KO^^: use cvlc , provided u have vlc installed
[00:51] <dem0n> when i cd into the dir and run "mono app.exe" it loads no problem, but when i try to add an icon so i can run the app.exe from my desktop i tels me tells me that files are not found and these are files that are in the directory that has the .exe app, does anyone have any ideas on how i can add this program to a desktop (for a shortcut) ?
[00:51] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: in Xorg or in console?  try "mplayer -vo xv foo.file" and/or "mplayer -vo x11 file.foo" as a test.
[00:52] <GhostConn> I'm tryign to resolve a minor problem hear.. I'm having black splash/boot screens ever since I installed ubuntu 11:10.I have even tried a third party application called splash screen manager, I have installed them correctly with the terminal no problem however, They work when i shut down my pc jsut not during start up
[00:52] <GhostConn> what could cause this?
[00:53] <dem0n> for some reason it keeps looking for the files that are in the directory that has the app.exe which i am trying to add to my desktop when i click on the icon it tells me that i can't find the files but it is looking for the files in /root/Documents
[00:53] <dem0n> anyone have any ideas?
[00:53] <phn> GhostConn do you want text boot?
[00:53] <A-KO^^> zykotick9: no show on that
[00:54] <A-KO^^> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:54] <A-KO^^> vlc plays but doesn't quit
[00:54] <A-KO^^> I need to play something and exit when done
[00:54] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[00:55] <phn> ctrl+c?
[00:55] <GhostConn> I want a graphical custom boot screen.  i have splash screen manager installed and a ton of splash screens to choose from. My problem is they work when i shutdown my computer but when i boot it up I get a black screen until it reaches the login screen
[00:55] <A-KO^^> ATI RV350 zykotick9
[00:55] <CFHowlett> GhostConn   you have to update initramfs
[00:56] <A-KO^^> Mobility Radeon 9600 M10
[00:56] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: damb.  Sorry i can't help any further - good luck.
[00:56] <phn> use vlc, ctrl+c to exit
[00:56] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: FYI it seems you have OpenGL issues
[00:56] <CFHowlett> GhostConn   see http://laptopny.us/ubuntu-tips/how-to-change-login-screen-background-on-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04
[00:57] <GhostConn> I have done that I used this command after choosing what boot screen i wanted ........     sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:57] <GhostConn> i followed this guide step by step http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html
[00:57] <jesco> how can i add open as admin in 12.04???  -no nautilus gksu in 12.04
[00:57] <GhostConn> like i said they are working only when i shutdown tho?
[00:57] <orudie> which tool for windows can I use to burn .iso to USB in order to install it ? Download link please ?
[00:57] <A-KO^^> zykotick9: I'm aware, but I don't want to actually launch a visible player--I want something that will play without a gui, no curses, no gui, no nothing. Play file then quit.
[00:58] <jesco> i am trying to 'open as admin' in nautilus 12.04... totally stumped
[00:58] <GhostConn> type gksudo nautilus into you're terminal
[00:58] <GhostConn> gksudo nautilus
[00:59] <zykotick9> GhostConn: (i don't really want to get involved but) i've experienced seeing plymouth on shutdown but not startup with 10.04 with nvidia drivers, messing with grub resolutions and possible custom framebuffer stuff might help.  good luck.
[00:59] <ntr0py> Is it somehow possible to delete an address book in evolution?
[00:59] <jesco> grassy-ass!
[00:59] <legilson> ubuntero
[00:59] <jesco> gracias!
[00:59] <GhostConn> hmmmm... im stumped lol... I'm running a ati 4870
[01:00] <CFHowlett> orudie   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:00] <GhostConn> thanks for the help tho greatly appreciated
[01:00] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: that's how i would describe mplayer's (mplayer-nogui in my case) default behaviour - but you got ATI issues :(
[01:00] <CFHowlett> !precise|jesco
[01:01] <phn> A-KO^^ what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say?
[01:02] <pedrolucasp> Hello, can anyone give me some links about how to integrate an app to the Message Menu?
[01:02] <jesco> ubottu: yeh, i know just trying to figure out a coupla things ;)  this distro is WAY different than 10.04!!!
[01:03] <PenguinLover> evening, everyone
[01:04] <CFHowlett> PenguinLover   greetings
[01:04] <PenguinLover> CFHowlett, and to you...so, what's the latest and greatest?
[01:05] <CFHowlett> PenguinLover   counting the days to 12.04  - whatcha need help on this fine day?
[01:06] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, Greetings
[01:06] <phn> anyone out there using xmonad?
[01:08] <PenguinLover> CFHowlett, nothing, actually...just watching the conversation roll by, to see what i can learn...also looking forward to pangolin, to throw on to test netbook, and see if the HUD is a step forward or back..if the focus is towards mobile devices and tv platforms is the focus (as unity led me to believe), then i do have my doubts...but that aside, always exciting...have a countdown timer on me phone (me="nerd!!")
[01:09] <PenguinLover> pedrolucasp, hey...what's new and exciting?
[01:10] <zykotick9> !anyone | phn i doubt many people here, might want to try #xmonad
[01:11] <blez> I'm trying ot install libwebkitgtk on ubuntu 10.10
[01:12] <blez> but I can't find a good link
[01:14] <PenguinLover> blez, not in the repos?
[01:15] <blez> I can't find it in the repos
[01:15] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, Precise Pangolin, and Android development, oh btw, I hate Java. :)
[01:15] <PenguinLover> blez, you did apt-cache search?
[01:16] <blez> I'm new to linux
[01:16] <blez> what is that?
[01:16] <triscuit> what's a command to find some basic info on a file?
[01:16] <zykotick9> triscuit: "file example.foo" ?
[01:16] <GhostConn> how come the search bar in my ubuntu software centre is gone
[01:17] <triscuit> no, am trying to chech the size of two archives
[01:18] <zykotick9> triscuit: "ls -l file.foo" ?
[01:19] <Shadow__X> hello everyone, I am having issues with the sky2 driver in ubuntu. For months it has worked without an issue and after a reboot now its having issues negotiating gigabyte speeds and at times working with the network. I already tried swapping ethernet cables with known good cables (using cables i made and premade bought cables). It is connected to a gigabyte switch any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
[01:19] <PenguinLover> pedrolucasp, whyso, the java nolove?
[01:20] <triscuit> thanks
[01:20] <triscuit> thanks zykotick9
[01:20] <PenguinLover> blez, open a terminal, and type 'apt-cache search libwebkitgtk' and see what you get
[01:21] <PenguinLover> blez, (sorry don't have a maverick system to try it out on)
[01:21] <zykotick9> triscuit: fyi, i'd typically use "ls -sh file.foo"
[01:22] <beebee> hi
[01:22] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, I really need to say? hahahaha
[01:22] <beebee> my laptop keeps crashing to logon
[01:22] <beebee> how do i find out why?
[01:22] <hoshi> can anyone suggest a tv pci card that will work well with ubuntu?
[01:22] <hoshi> i want to try mythbuntu
[01:22] <hoshi> live tv streeming
[01:23] <hoshi> and recording
[01:23] <hoshi> but i don't have  a tv adaptor for my pc
[01:23] <KILLSIG> pedrolucasp, prolly naught..
[01:23] <hoshi> should I just go with a tv to usb adaptor or a pci card?
[01:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> !register
[01:24] <guybrushsantiago> Noob in distress: custom script runs correctly from terminal but shows "not found" if run with sudo
[01:24] <PenguinLover> guybrushsantiago, more details, please?
[01:25] <hoshi411> i wanna try mythbuntu but don't know which pci card runs linux?
[01:25] <hoshi411> i wanna try live tv streaming and recording
[01:25] <hoshi411> should I go with a tv to usb adaptor or a pci card?
[01:25] <PenguinLover> hoshi411, check with manufacturer?
[01:26] <hoshi411> manufacturer of what? O_o
[01:26] <hoshi411> just wanted to know if anyone here has experience with tv?
[01:26] <hoshi411> if so, would like to know what you are using
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> guybrushsantiago: check your paths
[01:26] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: I creted a script, put it under /home/me/bin (it's in the path). If I run "$ myScript" it works. If I do "$ sudo myScript" it fails with "sudo: myScript: commant not found"
[01:27] <CFHowlett> hoshi411   see this for the right channel: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IRC
[01:27] <hoshi411> ah ok thanks
[01:27] <zykotick9> hoshi411: i use a hauppauge 1600 for O.T.A. HD recording with mythtv (but it's an older hard with an analog input as well).  The remote on this model has been messed up for far too long :(  but i'd suggest you get a card over usb myself.
[01:28] <hoshi411> zykotick9: thanks : )
[01:28] <PenguinLover> guybrushsantiago, did you try with ./myScript?
[01:29] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: From the folder of the script? I want it to be available from anywhere
[01:29] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: (it does work that way)
[01:30] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: I guess I should add the folder to .bashrc from the /root folder
[01:31] <no-name-> if you get a .png file with a program's source code that's for its launcher icon, where should I (or where does sudo make install) put it?
[01:31] <dem0n> hey guys sorry i can not find anything on google on how to add a windows app.exe which needs "mono" to load, to the kde desktop...?
[01:33] <zykotick9> no-name-: if you know the name of the package you got it from "dpkg -L foo" you might even be able to "dpkg -L foo | grep png"
[01:33] <no-name-> it wasn't from a package, I compiled it
[01:34] <dem0n> when i try to add this in the command section fo the kde icon properties "sh -c "mono /path/to/app.exe" it tells me that it can't find files which are in the app's directory , but it tells me it can't find those files in "/root/documents", why os it looking for those files in the directory /root/documents  it makes no sense?
[01:34] <zykotick9> no-name-: ahh - no idea then.  good luck.
[01:34] <no-name-> it probably put it somewhere anyway, I'll do a search for it
[01:36] <kparaju> Does anyone know of any minimalistic word processor? Something like TextRoom but with a little bit more GUI?
[01:37] <CrustyTheRusty> hi guys, just a quick question: whats the best pdf editor for ubuntu?
[01:37] <CFHowlett> CrustyTheRusty   i've edited in gimp and inkscape
[01:37] <CrustyTheRusty> ok, thanks :)
[01:37] <Joe580> thanks for help in advance... Linux Rookie have installed ubunutu on a laptop with a 80% broken dead screen / install worked but I cannot figure out how to get second monitor configured // suggestions?
[01:38] <haz3lnut> CrustyTheRusty: Editor?
[01:38] <CrustyTheRusty> editor yes, something that can edit the pdfs... i'm basically looking for an Acrobat alternative
[01:38] <haz3lnut> CrustyTheRusty: gscan2pdf allows to extract specific pages from multiple page PDFs
[01:39] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, Someone knows a better Page/Wiki/Article for the App Indicator/Messaging Menu?
[01:39] <CFHowlett> CrustyTheRusty   you extract individual pages in gimp as well
[01:39] <CrustyTheRusty> ok, i'll try them out :)
[01:39] <CrustyTheRusty> thank you!
[01:40] <haz3lnut> CFHowlett: didn;t know gimp could do that. ty
[01:40] <PenguinLover> kparaju, strict text..i like kate, but i just realized that textpad also works with wine
[01:41] <CFHowlett> haz3lnut   yep, I just did a 4 page doc that way!
[01:41] <Joe580> broken screen - i have 2 inches of screen realestate, how would you configure second monitor in this situation ubuntu 11.10 / (prefarably in terminal)?
[01:42] <sammmy> does /tmp automatically get garbage collected?
[01:43] <kparaju> sammmy, IIRC it is cleared every reboot.
[01:44] <sammmy> kparaju: and if your server doesn't reboot?
[01:44] <kparaju> PenguinLover, Thanks will take a look. But looks like both are centered towards coding more than word processing.
[01:44] <hythlodaeus> hello
[01:44] <hythlodaeus> i need some help
[01:44] <hythlodaeus> having a bit of problem here
[01:44] <PenguinLover> kparaju, i misunderstood then...what exactly are you looking to do?
[01:45] <kparaju> sammmy, http://askubuntu.com/a/20787
[01:45] <hythlodaeus> i'm actually on xubuntu, but i've had the same problem with my previous ubuntu installation
[01:45] <kparaju> PenguinLover, A minimal word processor.
[01:45] <hythlodaeus> essentially my system completely freezes at unspecified times
[01:45] <kparaju> There is too much stuff going on in LibreOffice or any other word processor.
[01:45] <hythlodaeus> does anyone knows a cause for this?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hythlodaeus: overheating, bad ram, untested repos?
[01:46] <kparaju> PenguinLover, I am basically looking for something that does this (http://jhollingworth.github.com/bootstrap-wysihtml5/)
[01:46] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt
[01:46] <a1fa> anyone seen anything similar
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> kparaju: I grabbed one from KDE awhile back that was small and decent
[01:47] <hythlodaeus> that's a bit of a grim scenario on the hardware part... but it's usually random
[01:47] <hythlodaeus> i doubt it's overheating
[01:47] <dem0n> okay here is my situation, i just added a windows icon which needs "mono" inorder for it to load, when i tried to add an icon using this under the command section i added this "mono /path/to/app.exe" and when i try to run it, an alert box pops up and says "can find file /root/bla.txt and i don't understand why it is looking for those files under /root and i even tried with the icon "run in a terminal" and did "sh -c /path/to/app.exe" and i get the same erro
[01:47] <hythlodaeus> it never happened while i was playing a game for instance. only when doing simple stuff on desktop
[01:47] <dem0n> (which are the files that are part of the app) but it says it can't find the files in /root ?
[01:47] <PenguinLover> kparaju, sorry, i'm being dense...kompozer is what you're looking for?
[01:48] <hythlodaeus> i'm dual booting with winxp btw
[01:48] <dem0n> so does anyone here know how to add an icon for a windows app.exe which needs "mono to load
[01:48] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt
[01:48] <CFHowlett> hythlodaeus   does it act up in winxp?
[01:48] <a1fa> slow on AC power, fast on battery
[01:49] <hythlodaeus> nope. everything is fine on winxp
[01:49] <hythlodaeus> only happens on ubuntu
[01:49] <kparaju> PenguinLover, no.. not really. Thanks for the help though. I tried searching it for a bit but could not find it so came here.
[01:49] <ntr0py> Where does evolution store the addressbooks?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kparaju: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_%28text_editor%29
[01:50] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   .evolution/addressbook
[01:50] <kparaju> Jack_Sparrow, Kate is more of a text editor for code than word processor. I'm looking for something that can do bold, underline, center etc.
[01:51] <ntr0py> CFHowlett there is no directory ~/.evolution on my ubuntu 11.04
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ntr0py: . means hidden
[01:51] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   ntr0py ctrl h will display hidden folders
[01:52] <PenguinLover> kparaju, maybe lynx is what you're looking for?
[01:52] <ntr0py> Jack_Sparrow, CFHowlett: "ls ~/.evolution" no such file or directory
[01:52] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   try ls .evolution
[01:53] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt -_-
[01:53] <ntr0py> CFHowlett its really not there
[01:53] <Wildbat> is there a way to install adobe arcobat reader on 10.04 64bit?
[01:53] <kparaju> PenguinLover, isn't lynx a web browser? I'm looking for something like LibreOffice writer but more lightweight.
[01:53] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   locate .evolution shows it - but I AM in 10.04?
[01:54] <smw> kparaju, libreoffice is the best one.
[01:54] <smw> kparaju, it is not worth getting something light weight
[01:54] <Joe580> thoughts on configuring dual display in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:54] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt -_-
[01:55] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i only want to delete an addressbook but evolution wont let me
[01:55] <a1fa> it did it in 10.04, 10.11, 11.04
[01:55] <a1fa> its not version induced
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kparaju:  did you look at geany
[01:55] <a1fa> some kind of power saving profile or something
[01:55]  * PenguinLover agrees with smw..feels like we're dancing around the issue/don't have enough info...what exactly are you looking to do?
[01:55] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   did locate .evolution work?
[01:56] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook.service and /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar.service
[01:56] <cvillavicencio> alo franco?
[01:56] <telcnas_> a
[01:56] <CFHowlett> !fr|cvillavicencio
[01:57] <kparaju> Jack_Sparrow, will take a look at it. Thanks.
[01:57] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down..
[01:57] <Sevith> a1fa, ? Weird..
[01:57] <a1fa> no doubt
[01:58] <cvillavicencio> !es|cvillavicencio
[01:58] <Sevith> a1fa, What kind of laptop?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> alfa does it do it instantly or take a few minutes
[01:58] <kparaju> a1fa, I would file a bug report. I am not sure what files you will need to include in the bug report, but you can ask it in your bug report. Also, give full information about your laptop (make/model/how old) etc.
[01:58] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: do you know of any way to delete evolutions addressbook without deinstalling it?
[01:58] <kparaju> and a1fa, does it occur w/ a plain installation of ubuntu?
[01:58] <a1fa> anyway to compare charge profile
[01:58] <a1fa> yes
[01:59] <Wildbat> is there a way to install adobe acrobat reader on 10.04 64bit?
[02:00] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   again 10.04 here.  Were it me, I'd create a new addressbook and switch to that.  Then I'd delete the previous one either via nautilus or command line.  YMMV.
[02:00] <Sevith> Wildbat, You can goto the adobe website and get the .deb to install
[02:01] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818830
[02:01] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: how do i switch to an addressbook?
[02:01] <jodesj777> what is the command to echo the ubuntu version i am running ?
[02:01] <invisiblek> cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:02] <Sevith> Wildbat, http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
[02:02] <Sevith> jodesj777, cat /etc/issue
[02:02] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   I think it's Evolution>Preferences>Contacts ..
[02:02] <droidfellow> hello all have a issue installing ubuntu 11.10 had a blank screen so at the grub i press "e" delete quiet and plash type nomodeset and reboot, now i get a black screen filled with words
[02:03] <a1fa> crazy
[02:03] <Wildbat> Sevith, i tried but the package are for 32 bit :|
[02:03] <kparaju> a1fa, Looks like the bug will be fixed and included in 12.04
[02:03] <Sevith> Wildbat, Should still work..? Have you tried installing the 32bit?
[02:04] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks, but there none of the blocked addressbooks is checked?
[02:04] <Wildbat> Sevith, ya ~ it said wrong architecture
[02:06] <droidfellow> this is what i get "loading, please wait..begin: loading essential drivers..done begin: running /scripts/init-premount..done begin:mount root file system done begin: running/scripts/local top-done then screen is blank
[02:06] <ntr0py> CFHowlett, do you know which files i should delete for an addressbook?
[02:07] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   kill .evolution will wipe all mail, addresses and calendars
[02:07] <Sevith> Wildbat, http://www.adobe.com/products/reader.html
[02:07] <Sevith> Wildbat, idk what to tell you if those dont work? Bug? idk...
[02:08] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   ... but I'm mystified why your .evolution/addressbook didn't show up.
[02:08] <CFHowlett> ...especially via nautilus with hidden files viewable
[02:08] <Guest02697> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:09] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i have ~/.local/share/evolution and ~/.config/evolution
[02:10] <CFHowlett> ntr0py  completely different arrangement than mine, I see no .evolution in .local/share
[02:10] <CFHowlett> sorry, but IDK
[02:11] <hopstafarian> kparaju, would love to try to help, but don't unnerstand the questions, and has to go...another time, then...
[02:12] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i tried to delete  ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/* but that had no effect at all...
[02:12] <diskinetic> I'm using gnome. Is there any way to change/remove the Google and Wikipedia search bubbles from the desktop?
[02:13] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   as I said, you've got something very different from mine...I would suspect that the .share is visible to all users.  Have you *created* a new addressbook for your user account?
[02:14] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i created several local addressbooks because i wanted to migrate vcards from old to new mobile phone, now i have those empty local addressbooks sitting there and i cant delete them
[02:15] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   #evolution might have answers.  Otherwise, consider apt-get purge evolution then reinstalling.
[02:15] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: also strange is that i could not use them individually, all behaved like a big one ...
[02:16] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   see #evolution - it's over my head  :~
[02:16] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: on which server?
[02:16] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   freenode iirv
[02:16] <CFHowlett> *iirc*
[02:17] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: that seems to be somehow locked/reserved for future use... thanks anyways for your help
[02:17] <CFHowlett>    ntr0py http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341772
[02:21] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks that is exactly what i tried
[02:23] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: that deleted the contacts but not the addressbook entries
[02:23] <tosh> simple scan doesn't recognize my multifuncional MFC-J280w Brother wifi via network suggestions?
[02:24] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: do you know if thunderbird or alternatives are better/less buggy?
[02:24] <digitard> where do I configure vino? specifically need to turn off listening on 5800
[02:25] <Pasq89> when i start my laptop, without power supply plugged in, then my maximum frequency stacks at 800mhz. that cool 'n quiet thing is enabled, and i cant select a higher frequency. so how can i disable cool 'n quiet?
[02:26] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   sorry, I've only used evolution - will have to change soon as ubuntustudio 12.04 uses xfce
[02:26] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   I've heard good things about thunderbird
[02:26] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks i will try that instead
[02:27] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   good luck - sorry I couldn't help with an exact answer
[02:27] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks anyways for your kind assistance
[02:27] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   have fun / be safe
[02:28] <Pasq89> anybody knows? cool 'n quiet is enabled when i start my laptop w/o power supply. And exists till i restart(and plug it in before it boots). is there a option to disable that annoying thing?
[02:29] <Lirth> I'm building my own desktop and was wondering if anyone had some recommendations for DVD drives that worked well with Ubuntu.
[02:31] <drbrownbear> Lirth: Most of them should work fine
[02:31] <Lirth> drbrownbear: So there won't be any weird comparability things for the majority?
[02:32] <drbrownbear> I personally have had good experince with lite-on drives; but I'm not a heavy DVD user or burner
[02:32] <Lirth> drbrownbear: That's good to hear, I'm looking at a lite-on drive.
[02:34] <drbrownbear> Lirth:  You should be fine regardless of the brand you get. Support for fancier things like lightscribe is a different issue altogether though
[02:34] <Shadow__X> hello everyone, I am having issues with the sky2 driver in ubuntu. For months it has worked without an issue and after a reboot now its having issues negotiating gigabyte speeds and at times working with the network. I already tried swapping ethernet cables with known good cables (using cables i made and premade bought cables). It is connected to a gigabyte switch any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
[02:35] <Lirth> drbrownbear: I've never used lightscribe, even on the computers capable. I don't like the idea of buying the special disks when basic ones that I can write on will work fine.
[02:36] <dem0n> hmmm i got the app.exe which needs "mono" to run from an icon i created on my desktop however i had to do "sh -c "cd /path/to/app && mono app.exe" and it opens a terminal and then opens the app.exe, now i am wondering if it is possible to do it without a terminal?
[02:36] <dem0n> anyone have any suggestions ?
[02:37] <Hail_Spacecake> how do I put the stock ubuntu .iso on a usb drive?
[02:37] <Hail_Spacecake> to boot from it?
[02:37] <Lirth> Hail_Spacecake: What OS are you running?
[02:38] <Sevith> Slax
[02:38] <Hail_Spacecake> arch linux
[02:38] <Hail_Spacecake> so I don't have access to ubuntu's tools for that
[02:38] <Hail_Spacecake> btu I thought you didn't need those anymroe
[02:38] <drbrownbear> Hail_Spacecake: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:39] <Hail_Spacecake> ah, thanks
[02:39] <Hail_Spacecake> that's it
[02:40] <dem0n> well never mind guys i got it to work...
[02:40] <dem0n> it took some adjustments, and some trial and error but i finally got it working!
[02:40] <Lirth> dem0n: How did you do it?
[02:41] <dem0n> well one way to do it is this...
[02:42] <dem0n> sh -c "/path/to/windows/app && mono windows-app.exe" and you check the option "run as terminal"
[02:42] <dem0n> but if you don't want to do it do this:
[02:42] <dem0n> in the section "workspace path" you put the directory where the .exe file is /path/to/windows/app
[02:43] <dem0n> and then in the command section i put -> mono app.exe
[02:48] <Sevith> Its...quiet...?
[02:49] <CFHowlett> Sevith   means everyone has a working machine  :)
[02:50] <Amin> hi. Justin Bieber talking here.
[02:51] <Sevith> CFHowlett, haha
[02:51] <digitard> i don't
[02:51] <mun> hi
[02:51] <mun> could someone recommend a VoIP softphone?
[02:51] <Sevith> I once tipped a jar that said, "If you tip, Justin Beiber dies a littler."
[02:51] <Amin> hi mun are you justin bieber?
[02:51] <sup3rj33n00s> hi i am new and where isstart button?? thx :)
[02:52] <mun> Amin, how did you know?
[02:52] <nilsonmorales> canal en español para ubuntu
[02:52] <xangua> sup3rj33n00s: hit super/windows key
[02:52] <Amin> lol sup3r
[02:52] <xangua> nilsonmorales: #ubuntu-es
[02:52] <nilsonmorales> gracias xangua
[02:52] <mun> Amin, do i know you?
[02:52] <sup3rj33n00s> i tried that and it didnt not work
[02:53] <Amin> mun, as far as u are justin bieber i should know u
[02:53] <xangua> !ot | Amin mun
[02:55] <sup3rj33n00s> ??
[02:55] <halfnhalf> hello, is there any good popular ubuntu tutorial that would help me learn the basics quite fast?
[02:55] <almoxarife> :-(
[02:55] <Amin> halfnhalf no
[02:55] <halfnhalf> Amin: really?
[02:56] <Amin> kiddin
[02:56] <almoxarife> halfnhalf: the best way? trial and error
[02:56] <Amin> theres lots of resources avaulable
[02:56] <halfnhalf> almoxarife: i still need the basics
[02:56] <Amin> agree with almox
[02:56] <halfnhalf> i need to save time, since i don't have much free time
[02:56] <halfnhalf> i need to learn kinda quickly
[02:56] <sup3rj33n00s> noone cant help me ??
[02:56] <Amin> the basics is google
[02:56] <almoxarife> halfnhalf: what do you find yourself doing most?
[02:57] <Amin> almoxarife dont flirt with people here
[02:57] <halfnhalf> i'd mostly use it for networking
[02:57] <halfnhalf> and perhaps install a few things
[02:57] <almoxarife> Amin: flirt? wtf you on?
[02:57] <Sevith> lol
[02:58] <Amin> well halfnhalf its not good for networking
[02:58] <sup3rj33n00s> :(
[02:58] <Amin> use windows and apple shit instead
[02:58] <almoxarife> halfnhalf: not sure what 'networking' means
[02:58] <almoxarife> Amin: help or stfu
[02:59] <Sevith> omfg. root? really?
[02:59] <Sevith> Wow..this doesnt even surprise me i guess?
[02:59] <Amin> who the f are you to talk with me like that you dirty motherfuckin son of a bitch?
[02:59] <A-KO^^> what's the best/easiest way to backup a linux system? tar / ?
[03:00] <Sevith> Amin, With language like that you'll get banned quick.
[03:00] <xangua> Amin: stop that
[03:00] <ChapterNZ> Hey all, New install of xubuntu on a HP Mini... Freezes when I shut down. I remember having this issue before and I had to run something to unload one of my modules, possibly sound, before shutdown.. But can't remember what it might have been or what to do, any pointers?
[03:00] <almoxarife> Amin: was that a question?
[03:00] <Amin> all righty then
[03:00] <Amin> conv over
[03:01] <Amin> brb
[03:01] <Sevith> ChapterNZ, Make a bash script that runs on shutdown to unload the modules? idk
[03:01] <almoxarife> Amin: take your time
[03:01] <ChapterNZ> well yeh, that's what I will probably have to do
[03:01] <ChapterNZ> but I can't remember what was the actual cause of the lock up
[03:02] <ChapterNZ> don't know what logs I should be looking at or how to track it down
[03:02] <Amin> fuck that faggot Justin Bieber
[03:02] <Sevith> ...
[03:03] <almoxarife> android users are angry types?
[03:03] <Sevith> I guess...
[03:03] <schl0ng> looks like it.
[03:05] <mike> is there a way i can use the mic slot as a headphone slot?
[03:15] <Hail_Spacecake> hm
[03:15] <Hail_Spacecake> does ubuntu by default have gparted installed on it?
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> Hail_Spacecake, no
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> Hail_Spacecake, the live cd does thogh
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> *though
[03:18] <Patrick_DJ> Hail_Spacecake: Maybe you need to install it manually yourself.
[03:18] <Hail_Spacecake> I want to have a linux distro with gparted already installed on it to have on a usb drive
[03:18] <Hail_Spacecake> so if the 10.11 .iso I downloaded has it already that's fine
[03:20] <xangua> Hail_Spacecake: sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:21] <xangua> Hail_Spacecake: the live cd/session have it, if you want a persistent usb install you can also install gparted later
[03:24] <GhostConn> im having trouble with the playstation 3 media server... i cannot add my media because all of it is located on two ntfs drives
[03:24] <GhostConn> anyone know a way around this
[03:26] <sammmy> I'm using upstart 0.6.6 what's the latest version?
[03:26] <chroot> hi, how can i grep the keyword "Authentication Failure" in a file?
[03:26] <chroot> i typed "grep "Authentication Failure", it dosen't work.
[03:31] <GhostConn> wow this is one clean server
[03:31] <GhostConn> ...
[03:32] <forbidden404> Hi, there, my partition cannot be read/writed, I cant give the permission ): I tried to mount in a folder in media, and it works, but I only can access, I tried to change the permission using nautilus, and he said that I don't have the rights to change this, even in the file, where I mounted the hd with rw option
[03:32] <forbidden404> what should I do?
[03:33] <wylde> chroot: grep "my phrase" /path/to/file.txt
[03:33] <GhostConn> put you're linux instilation disc into you're computer and format the partition to ext3
[03:34] <GhostConn> do a complete reinstall
[03:34] <step21> forbidden404: some more info ... what file system? from which system are you trying it?
[03:34] <forbidden404> ntfs
[03:34] <forbidden404> Im using Ubuntu 11.10
[03:34] <forbidden404> but the partition I createad with Windows,
[03:34] <forbidden404> created*
[03:34] <GhostConn> or try this command in you're terminal     gksudo nautilus
[03:34] <forbidden404> ok, i'll check
[03:34] <GhostConn> that will give you full control over nautilus
[03:35] <wylde> 8nix permissions don't work on NTFS volumes.
[03:35] <wylde> *nix
[03:35] <step21> forbidden404: did it automount before?
[03:35] <forbidden404> yep, automount, but there's no permissions to read and write
[03:35] <forbidden404> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "Forbidden404": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system
[03:36] <wylde> !ntfs | forbidden404
[03:36] <forbidden404> !NTFS-3g
[03:37] <superdave321> How do I install drivers and such from the live disk as if I were booted to the root drive?
[03:38] <newhaskeller> Hi. I have Ubuntu 11.10 running on a macbook (13 inch white) as the sole OS. I cannot get wifi or cable connectivity on it. lscpci -v output is here (http://pastebin.com/4WjCHMZz). I just downloaded the firmware-b43-installer and the b43-fwcutter deb files but cannot install it. Could someone help me on how to install this firmware so I can get a wireless up
[03:40] <newhaskeller> I also raised a 250 point bounty on askubuntu for the issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[03:40] <wylde> !macbook | newhaskeller
[03:41] <CatalanGuy> hi
[03:43] <CatalanGuy> hei running Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits with 2 virtual machines how much RAM do I need to get a decent speed?
[03:43] <zackattack> hey guys..
[03:43] <newhaskeller> anyone?
[03:45] <superdave321> CatalanGuy: Try #ubuntu+1 for support of future releases.
[03:46] <zackattack> anyone have troubles install mysql-server-5.1 on 10.4?
[03:47] <atpa8a> hmm
[03:47] <superdave321> How do I install drivers and such on a preinstalled system from the live disk?
[03:48] <atpa8a> why would ubuntu say 'Starting OpenSSH Server [OK]' followed by 'Stopping OpenSSH Server [OK]' for every NIC or alias during boot?
[03:48] <atpa8a> any remedy?
[03:49] <newhaskeller> In the b43 docs at Ubuntu documentation, it is written "b43-fwcutter is located on the Ubuntu install media under ../pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/ and patch is located under ../pool/main/p/patch/ or both in the official repositories online."
[03:49] <newhaskeller> where is the pool directory?
[03:51] <dannek71> hey alll
[03:52] <escapeplan> Hello there dudes :D
[03:52] <sacarlson> atpa8a: one for system startup and one for system shutdown?  or is this what you see when you manually restart?
[03:57] <forbidden404> Guys, I found a way in that !ntfs-3g, I used the ntfs-config to remount with the read/write permission
[03:57] <superdave321> Is it chown that can make a live disk environment act like it owns the files of a disk? Or is it something else...
[03:59] <zykotick9> superdave321: do you want to install things on a hard drive from the livecd?
[03:59] <superdave321> zykotick9: Yes
[04:00] <zykotick9> superdave321: chroot is what you want - grub2 link has some chroot instructions you might want to see
[04:00] <zykotick9> !grub2 | superdave321
[04:00] <superdave321> zykotick9: Thanks!
[04:00] <atpa8a> debootstrap man page has a nice example of how to enter chroot
[04:00] <sacarlson> forbidden404: what does it do default to read only now?
[04:01] <forbidden404> sacarlson: I guess I should re-open the ntfs-config, remount the partition without the permission, I guess
[04:02] <wawawee> http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg163/scaled.php?server=163&filename=screenshot0321201212004.png&res=medium <= This icon will not delete =[ right click = Launch \ Properties... sigh
[04:03] <dannek71> anyone in here have trouble getting vm player to work after upgrading Ubunut?
[04:06] <Shadow__X> anyone?
[04:11] <JermBob> hey there
[04:11] <JermBob> does irssi log by default  ?
[04:13] <Black> i get a error "sub items errors: 3502" while extracting a 533 Mb zip file, google didnt help me
[04:14] <cocoading> password protection?
[04:14] <Black> no
[04:15] <lifestream> Oh dear Ubuntians, is it possible to set notify-send to the center (heck, anywhere except top-left) of the screen? I keep missing notifications because I'm looking at the bottom right of the screen ;) And my notifications are neon green! :P
[04:15] <Ghrim> Can someone tell me what the default cursor theme is in *buntu?
[04:15] <JermBob> how can i enable logging in irssi then ?
[04:19] <mi3> Hello!
[04:23] <lifestream> JermBob:  inside irssi type:  /set autolog_level = all -crap -clientcrap -ctcps   I believe that's correct, just saw on irssi docs
[04:24] <JermBob> lifestream:  thanks, does it log to a file ?
[04:28] <lifestream> JermBob:  http://irssi.org/documentation/manual  Search: Automatic logging  .. I'm actually reading it now myself.. :)
[04:28] <JermBob> thanks mate
[04:28] <JermBob> will do
[04:31] <fam>  /fs beginner_help
[04:39] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[04:39] <curiousx> !fr | curiousx
[04:40] <scottj> anyone know if ubuntu has an app for adding music/videos to the ipad3? does banshee support it?
[04:42] <isaac__> Hi all, I have a question I would be grateful if anyone would be kind enough to answer; When setting up a router, the default is usually 192.168.0.1, but sometimes it's 192.168.1.1 what is that number called (the 0 and 1 part that changes) and why can't I connect to something else like a wireless access point if that number is different. Thank you if you can answer this or point me in the right direction :)
[04:43] <isaac__> Hi all, I have a question I would be grateful if anyone would be kind enough to answer; When setting up a router, the default is usually 192.168.0.1, but sometimes it's 192.168.1.1 what is that number called (the 0 and 1 part that changes) and why can't I connect to something else like a wireless access point if that number is different. Thank you if you can answer this or point me in the right direction :) (sorry if I sent this already, my
[04:43] <isaac__> internet is acting wacky so I don't think it went through...)
[04:44] <fam>  /fs beginner_help
[04:44] <sacarlson> isaac__: that would be the default gateway address,  it should be setup auto when dhcp is set active
[04:45] <ome> `dsmesg` give just a hand full of `[ 1563.575619] evbug: Event. Dev: input3, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
[04:45] <ome> what that exactly means ?
[04:45] <terminhell> isaac__:  are you actually connected to the router? as in, given a wep/wpa password etc
[04:46] <fragrant> When i click a partition from nautilus it's mounted, which package is responsible for this?
[04:46] <isaac__> Yeah I'm actually connected to the router
[04:46] <fragrant> Which option/settings does that for click and mount?
[04:46] <ome> !xy > fragrant
[04:46] <terminhell> isaac__:  run ip route   the default gateway should be listed
[04:47] <fragrant> ome: ?
[04:47] <ome> !xy
[04:47] <fragrant> ome: What would i do with that?
[04:47] <ome> :)
[04:48] <isaac__> How would I connect to a device (like a wireless access point) that had a default of 192.168.1.245   the router's ip is 192.168.0.1
[04:48] <isaac__> and change it to use .0.245
[04:48] <ome> fragrant: why do you need to know what package is nautilus is using to mount a drive ?
[04:49] <sacarlson> isaac__: you can add an alias address to the nic example  ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.222
[04:49] <fragrant> Because it's not mounting,
[04:50] <fragrant> Unable to mount, not authorised
[04:51] <isaac__> Thank you sacarlson
[04:53] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!
[04:53] <ponrajuganesh> "tar xvf sample.tar" ----> this actually extracts the tar file --- now is there any option to check whether if the folder is already is present not to extract
[04:54] <yjqg6666> ponrajuganesh man tar
[04:55] <ponrajuganesh> ogey yjqg6666
[04:56] <yjqg6666> ponrajuganesh tar --list sample.tar |grep folder_name
[04:57] <Xabster-lap> How do I give gedit superuser permissions? I need to replace a file...
[04:58] <terminhell> run gksudo gedit
[04:58] <terminhell> or sudo gedit
[04:59] <terminhell> or just sudo nano /path/to/filename
[04:59] <Xabster-lap> i just did sudo gedit
[04:59] <Xabster-lap> cause i didn't know what gksudo did
[04:59] <Xabster-lap> and it worked, thanks
[05:00] <kla> always w. this
[05:00] <Xabster-lap> If there any thing i can do to get a windows-like feature where i can right click and click "run as administrator"?
[05:00] <Xabster-lap> cause I'd like to make most my stuff available with mouse only
[05:00] <terminhell> Xabster-lap: gksudo appname
[05:01] <terminhell> Xabster-lap: or just google some nautilus scripts, im sure it exists
[05:02] <Xabster-lap> k, thanks
[05:02] <Xabster-lap> i'd hate to replace all my programs and give them shortcuts that include gksudo
[05:03] <sacarlson> Xabster-lap: I just create a shortcut to a script that runs gksudo nautilus;
[05:03] <dr_willis> i can only a few apps that need to run as root gor my normal day
[05:03] <dr_willis> i definatly sboide gksu nautilus...   ;)
[05:03] <dr_willis> avoide
[05:04] <dr_willis> there are  'edit as root..' addons for the nautilus menus
[05:14] <gotmilk> s
[05:24] <terminhell> ive got cows
[05:25] <rocktop> fdisk -l doesn't showing up failure HDD how to resolve the problem .?
[05:26] <ejv> since when does fdisk show disk failure information...
[05:27] <rocktop> ejv: its possible to run FSCK on that hideen hdd ?
[05:27] <cucu> hello
[05:28] <ejv> try checking the kernel buffer for access errors; fsck *could* be a destructive operation, YMMV.
[05:35] <Rask> Hello, channel.  I'm trying to install the 'maildrop' package, but for some reason when I do, aptitude wants to bring with it all kinds of packages that aren't in the depends... does anyone happen to know why it's doing this and how I can stop it?  D:
[05:36] <Rask> for some unexplained reason it wants to install both exim -and- postfix
[05:36] <Rask> even though, from my understanding, it should be able to stand on its own without requiring an MTA
[05:38] <sn00p> Hello, I am wanting to install ubuntu 11.10 on my new laptop which has intel integrated graphics HD3000 now previously I had ubuntu installed on my netbook and it didn't have dvi or hdmi it just had vga and i've had problems with the monitor on it it had intel integrated graphics 940GME or something anybody know how well the integrated graphics hd 3000 works with ubuntu?
[05:38] <yjqg6666> Rask aptitude show maildrop             see the depends field
[05:39] <Rask> yjqg6666: I have done, but nothing in there requires exim.  It 'recommends' exim4 | mail-transport-agent, but it doesn't appear to require it
[05:40] <yjqg6666> Rask   use aptitude install with --without-recommends options
[05:40] <Jordan_U> sn00p: Probably easiest to just try it out with the LiveCD and see for yourself.
[05:42] <yjqg6666> Rask how is it going ?
[05:42] <Rask> yjqg6666: Seems to work.  Thanks :)
[05:45] <ome> I have some how managed to block all ports on my computer
[05:45] <ome> well most of it.
[05:46] <pithagora> hi
[05:46] <ome> and now I can't get torrents, where should I look for the problem ?
[05:46] <ome> pithagora: Hi :)
[05:46] <CFHowlett> pithagora   greetings
[05:47] <pithagora> :ome - iptables -L -v
[05:48] <pithagora> :sn00p - it works fine for me on dell latitude e 5410
[05:51] <ome> pithagora: cheers.
[06:01] <LxKermit> exit
[06:03] <nunuyabiz> what software does Ubuntu use for screencasts.... like when you do a voice explanation of what you are doing and the viewer can see you mouse move around and whatever you execute on your screen as though it were live?
[06:04] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   gtkrecordmydesktop
[06:05] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett thanks
[06:05] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   or instanbul or recroditnow or kx11grab: look in software center
[06:05] <CFHowlett> *recorditnow*
[06:06] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett thanks again'
[06:06] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   have fun / be safe
[06:07] <collinjsimpson> any reason why a two directories have the same owner, group, and permissions but one can't be cd'ed into?
[06:08] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett which one do you thing is best in terms of maturity and/or user friendliness
[06:08] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   gtkrecordmydesktop is the one I seem to see in use the most.  I've used it a few times and found it fairly intuitive ...
[06:09] <CFHowlett> of course YMMV :)
[06:09] <crf>  /join #transmission
[06:09] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett thanks again
[06:09] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   np
[06:11] <chroot> how can i find a word in a text?
[06:11] <collinjsimpson> try 'grep'
[06:11] <chroot> i.e.  i want to find Success in file state
[06:11] <chroot> collinjsimpson, anyother tools,  i used that, not perfect.
[06:12] <CFHowlett> chroot   cat state | grep Success IIRC
[06:12] <chroot> CFHowlett,  i know that, anyother solutions ?
[06:13] <collinjsimpson> what is preventing you from using grep?
[06:13] <collinjsimpson> too slow?
[06:13] <chroot> no, it is hang out.
[06:13] <chroot> and dosen''t proceed
[06:14] <chroot> i am using it in a shell script
[06:14] <ketterer> which channel would i go to if i have a unique idea for ubuntu
[06:14] <collinjsimpson> chroot  might be executing an incorrect grep or searching in the wrong place
[06:15] <CFHowlett>  ketterer brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <ketterer> thankyou
[06:15] <collinjsimpson> any reason why two directories have the *exact* same permissions but one can't be cd'ed into?
[06:17] <chroot> how to use awk find a word in a text?
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> in terminal I want to execute a command and return
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> how to do that ?
[06:18] <silv3r_m00n> ok command &
[06:20] <collinjsimpson> does anybody know why two directories act differently even thought they have the same permissions?
[06:26] <collinjsimpson> i have two directories with the same permissions. why can i cd into one and not the other?
[06:27] <rajarshi> hoe to install java wireless toolkit in ubuntu 11.10 version
[06:27] <dimitris> hello to all
[06:28] <CFHowlett> dimitris   greetings
[06:30] <rajarshi> how to install java wireless toll kit in ubuntu 11.10 version..can somebody help me !!!
[06:34] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson:   different owners maybe?
[06:38] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: another possibility is that is the directory is a subdirectory of a dir with different privs than the other compared dir
[06:39] <SumoJim> I'm looking to setup rcp (insecure I know), but I'm getting Permission Denied every time I've tried. I have added entries into .rhosts, hosts.equiv and securetty. Is anyone familiar enough to help me?
[06:40] <step_offset> Hi all, does anyone know of a way to create an *upgradeable* install on removeable media (usb, etc) ???
[06:41] <Jordan_U> step_offset: Do a normal install as you would to an internal drive.
[06:41] <step_offset> I am aware of the many methods of creating a custom removeable w/ a rw partition, but it doesn't allow for an upgrade, in particular, will fail at initramfs and new kenel install
[06:41] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent step_offset
[06:41] <sacarlson> SumoJim: seems rcp just redirects you to scp  so you will need an ssh-server installed on the server side to work
[06:42] <step_offset> bazhang: I have persistence working fine, but you can't perform a complete upgrade
[06:43] <step_offset> Jordan_U: are you sure this works?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> step_offset: Yes.
[06:43] <bazhang> step_offset, so get the new system and use that to create a persistent one
[06:43] <step_offset> thanks, Jordan_U
[06:43] <Jordan_U> step_offset: You're welcome.
[06:43] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson:  I had some confusion with -x on my directories, but I have resolved it now. Thank you.
[06:44] <step_offset> in the past, that failed miserably :-/
[06:44] <step_offset> I'd been creating a custom install in chroot and reflashing, getting a bit tedious
[06:44] <rajarshi> how to install java wireless toolkit in ubuntu 11.10...can somebody help me !!!
[06:45] <bazhang> rajarshi, whats the package name
[06:45] <rajarshi> i have downloaded it in linux.bin format
[06:45] <rajarshi> but not able to insatal it now
[06:45] <bazhang> rajarshi, with what package name
[06:46] <rajarshi> how to check the package name?
[06:46] <bazhang> rajarshi, the name of the package you downloaded
[06:47] <rajarshi> sun java wireless tolkit 2_5_1 linux.bin
[06:47] <bazhang> rajarshi, what do you need that for? better to install from ubuntu repos
[06:48] <rajarshi> what is this???
[06:48] <rajarshi> ubuntu repos?
[06:48] <rajarshi> ???
[06:49] <bazhang> rajarshi, the normal way to install software on ubuntu is from the software repos, not 3rd party websites
[06:49] <bazhang> !repos | rajarshi
[06:49] <collinjsimpson> rajarshi:  investigate 'apt-cache search myRepoName'?
[06:53] <mattiasnorlander> Has anyone tried Ubuntu+xbmc+spotify?
[06:54] <sacarlson> rajarshi: it looks like you just run the installer bin file after you have installed java jdk  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/installing-sun-java-wireless-toolkit-bin-file-572168/
[06:55] <j504> hi
[06:56] <j504> I followed these intrustions to set up mailman on my system: http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/development_environment_on_ubuntu_9.10
[06:56] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/108530/tools-for-java-development-on-ubuntu-11-10 rajarshi you mean this?
[06:56] <j504> I now want to reset these settings and start over (I messed something up :( )
[06:56] <j504> How to I reset what I've done?
[06:56] <bazhang> j504, for which version of ubuntu
[06:56] <rajarshi> yes
[06:57] <rajarshi> i downloaded from dat link
[06:57] <bazhang> rajarshi, did you check the link I gave you?
[06:57] <j504> bazhang: 11.10
[06:57] <rajarshi> yes ...
[06:57] <rajarshi> repositories link
[06:57] <m15k> Hey, is it enough to place the upstart configuration in /etc/init to register a task for system start?
[06:58] <bazhang> rajarshi, and that tells you how to do it
[06:58] <rajarshi> will it be available in synaptic
[06:58] <rajarshi> ???
[06:58] <bazhang> rajarshi, that link says no
[06:58] <rajarshi> kkk
[06:58] <rajarshi> so what to install frm dat
[06:58] <rajarshi> link
[06:58] <rajarshi> ??
[06:59] <bazhang> rajarshi, read the link, follow the instructions
[06:59] <j504> bazhang: I now have a user account called "mailman" on my system and have some changed config settings, Is there a way to reverse all of this?
[06:59] <Xabster-lap> How do I enable that rotating cube desktop in ubuntu 11.10 using gnome?
[07:00] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, got ccsm installed?
[07:00] <Xabster-lap> yes i believe so
[07:00] <Xabster-lap> yes i do, starting it now
[07:02] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, if my gfx card doesn't do opengl can I still use it but laggy?
[07:02] <Xabster-lap> just to see it
[07:02] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, what card
[07:02] <Xabster-lap> hurm
[07:02] <rajarshi> bazhang,how to add the repositories in ubuntu 11.10 version???
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Xabster-lap: If you're using GNOME shell then it's not possible.
[07:03] <bazhang> rajarshi, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:03] <j504> bazhang: Something like System Restore in Windows?
[07:03] <rajarshi> 11.10
[07:03] <bazhang> j504, no system restore, just remove the packages you installed
[07:04] <bazhang> rajarshi, then you should have the necessary repos installed; however with Sun Java you need to follow the instructions on that askubuntu link
[07:05] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[07:05] <Xabster-lap> that's all i could get from lshw
[07:05] <rajarshi> i have installed the sun java 1.6 version ..only i need dat sun java wirelees toolkit...is it instaled already???
[07:05] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, what about from lspci
[07:06] <bazhang> rajarshi, for cldc?
[07:06] <rajarshi> cldc????
[07:06] <rajarshi> dont have any idea about cldc??
[07:06] <Xabster-lap> same info, bazhang
[07:07] <bazhang> Sun Java Wireless Toolkit 2.5.1 for CLDC   rajarshi
[07:07] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, please pastebin the out put from lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <bazhang> sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2_5_1-linux.bin   <---- rajarshi from the link I gave you
[07:09] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/893280/
[07:09] <rajarshi> i have already downloaded it..but not able to install it
[07:09] <rajarshi> ???
[07:11] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82327/compiz-issues-on-intel-integrated-graphics-chips Xabster-lap this may help
[07:11] <Xabster-lap> okay, i just googled my model number, it's a Intel GMA 4500M
[07:11] <SumoJim> scararlson: Just noticed I missed your message do you know of a way to prevent rcp from redirecting to scp?
[07:11] <bazhang> chmod +x sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2_5_1-linux.bin
[07:11] <bazhang> ./sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2_5_1-linux.bin
[07:11] <bazhang> rajarshi, see above
[07:12] <rajarshi> so i have to run it in my terminal now??
[07:12] <Aesthenaut> is there a safe way to lower your CPU clockspeed for power saving?
[07:12] <bazhang> rajarshi, I simply copy and pasted exactly from the link I gave you
[07:12] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: Why do you want to use rcp?
[07:12] <bazhang> rajarshi, if you actually read the link, then you can know what to do
[07:12] <SumoJim> Because it's what our company uses. I know it's insecure, it's not up to me though.
[07:13] <rajarshi> bazhang,but it shows in the terminal no such file or directory
[07:14] <rajarshi> cannot access sun java wireless toolkit it shows???
[07:14] <SumoJim> At this point, I'll do whatever I can to get it to work. I tried looking into scp, unfortunately no luck on that front either.
[07:14] <bazhang> rajarshi, you need to be in the same directory, like on you r Desktop , or where ever you downloaded it to
[07:15] <SumoJim> There will be no access to internet or anything outside of network, so no need for security.
[07:15] <rajarshi> i kept it in my desktop
[07:15] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: You can't even use tftp, http, or other simple protocal which is still widely used and thus well supported?
[07:15] <bazhang> rajarshi, it's Desktop with a capital D
[07:15] <bazhang> rajarshi, so go to that directory
[07:16] <SumoJim> Jordan_U not sure how I would use that, I need to issue updates from a host machine to slave machines.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: What OS are the slave machines running, and what type of updates? Usually updates require more than a simple file copy.
[07:17] <m15k> Hey, is it enough to place the upstart configuration in /etc/init to register a task for system start?
[07:18] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: All machines are linux, they are simply configuration files for our simulation program so they will all run the same scenario and settings.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: Why not have the machines wget new files from an http server. For that matter, why can't you use scp? Does your company actively disallow use of protocals other than rcp?
[07:19] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: In the souce, I tracked the program crash to be that a script it launches is failing.
[07:20] <number_one_1> hey all new kid n town jus wanna say i left win7 and i love ubuntu alot :)
[07:20] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, even when I enable rotating cube I got the "wall" thingy where, if i press ctrl+alt+down, I can switch to a secondary desktop
[07:20] <Xabster-lap> but nothing else works - I checked the keyboard bindings and I'm clicking the right stuff
[07:21] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: The other computers will have no way of knowing what files they need.
[07:21] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, wall plugin needs to be disabled with cube on
[07:21] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: Maybe better stated, when they will need them.
[07:22] <Xabster-lap> yes and it is, bazhang, it does that automatically
[07:22] <Xabster-lap> but it still works even when disabled
[07:22] <Xabster-lap> i don't know if it's some sort of fallback cause no opengl support
[07:22] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: That is, without re-writing our current program initilization.
[07:23] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: Which could take months, so that's not an option.
[07:24] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, not sure there, according to the askubuntu post, modifying grub will allow you to use compiz; perhaps #compiz can give a better answer
[07:30] <number_one_1> hey all noob here is conky pretty easy to fix up?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: How did your company manage to install an rcp daemon in the first place?
[07:30] <sammmy> Can I update upstart even though I'm using ubuntu 10.10?
[07:30] <bazhang> number_one_1, sure
[07:31] <bazhang> number_one_1, need to see the beginners guide?
[07:31] <number_one_1> oh plz
[07:31] <number_one_1> :)
[07:31] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 number_one_1
[07:31] <number_one_1> bazhang: ty much my friend
[07:33] <number_one_1> why do i keep gettin unlock ring coming up?
[07:33] <number_one_1> what is that
[07:34] <bazhang> number_one_1, for a wireless network?
[07:34] <number_one_1> it is?
[07:34] <number_one_1> started when i open pidgin
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> Is there some sort of repository for embedded Intel graphics cards?
[07:36] <dan3son> Anyone here use transmission? I'm an ubuntu n00b and that channel is dead atm
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> I'm looking but all I find a zip files with Fedora drivers
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> dan3son,, i do
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> -,
[07:36] <Abhijit> Xabster-lap, there is website for intel graphics card drivers
[07:36] <CFHowlett> dan3son   what's the issue?
[07:36] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, perhaps a PPA
[07:36] <dan3son> I can download from the GUI in ubuntu but the web interface won't connect to peers for some reason. It's the strangest thing
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> what does PPA stand for bazhang ?
[07:36] <bazhang> !ppa | Xabster-lap
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> i thought PPA's /were/ repositories
[07:36] <Abhijit> Xabster-lap, http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[07:37] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, yes, but DIY at your own risk ones
[07:38] <dan3son> Any idea what I should do Xabster/CFHowlett?
[07:38] <Xabster-lap> thanks, Abhijit, but it says you need to be a non-n00b to do it
[07:38] <Xabster-lap> and i dont fit that category
[07:38] <Abhijit> ok
[07:38] <Xabster-lap> :/
[07:38] <Abhijit> this is linux world. or get an commercial support.
[07:38] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!1
[07:38] <dan3son> I'm trying to download a legal torrent w/3000 seeders and it's just not connecting to peers
[07:39] <dan3son> The machine isn't even behind NAT
[07:39] <CFHowlett> dan3son   for grins and giggles, run an alternate torrent manager - install one form software center and see if it'll connect
[07:39] <ponrajuganesh> How am I to display the files in the folder which are of size 0?
[07:39] <dan3son> Well CFHowlett, the GUI version of the program works fine. The web daemon doesn't
[07:39] <bazhang> dan3son, sounds like you need to adjust the port number
[07:39] <CFHowlett> dan3son   ah, ok, ports adjustment
[07:40] <ponrajuganesh> How to display the files in the folder which are of size 0?
[07:40] <number_one_1> noob here i was told by someone u never gotta reboot linux, i did big update had problems now reboot everything 110% in line
[07:41] <number_one_1> :)
[07:41] <bazhang> number_one_1, well not never
[07:41] <ecthiender> hello, i'd like to know if sticky notes application for gnome, specifically gnome-shell, is still available? I can't seem to find it in the repo. I'm using 11.10 with gnome-shell
[07:41] <Abhijit> number_one_1, in case of kernel update you need to reboot
[07:41] <dan3son> I'm think it's a permissions issue with the daemon.
[07:41] <sevlarasec> one question i need ubuntu canal br...
[07:41] <CFHowlett> !tomboy|ecthiender
[07:41] <number_one_1> ya ok i know now
[07:41] <bazhang> sevlarasec, #ubuntu-br
[07:41] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   tomboy
[07:41] <number_one_1> ty
[07:41] <sevlarasec> ok ty
[07:42] <number_one_1> was kernal update to....:)
[07:42] <sevlarasec> #ubuntu-br
[07:42] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, umm sticky notes? i wasn't looking for tomboy
[07:42] <Abhijit> sevlarasec, /j #ubunt-br
[07:42] <number_one_1> all good now
[07:42] <Abhijit> sevlarasec, /j #ubuntu-br
[07:42] <bluefrog> ponrajuganesh, find -type f -size 0
[07:42] <raketti> how do i get panels/launcher running? i only have pidgin on my desktop..
[07:42] <raketti> so any keybindings to open console..
[07:42] <Abhijit> raketti, ctrl alt t
[07:42] <number_one_1> ok ima try this conky thing bazhang
[07:43] <raketti> Abhijit: awesome! thnx!! =D
[07:43] <number_one_1> wow this looks nice
[07:43] <raketti> the next problem is.. my gnome session won't start automatically..
[07:43] <raketti> meaning, no logon screen
[07:44] <ecthiender> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition : this link says that there is a sticky notes applet. But I can't seem to find it.
[07:45] <st1> I've changed locale to denmark in language support '/etc/environment' '/etc/default/locale', but I still see date format like 'wed mar 21 12:34' instead of iso format
[07:45] <ecthiender> Any insights?
[07:45] <Abhijit> raketti, how are you starting it now?
[07:45] <st1> oh, that's only in terminal, in gui applications like nautilus are already right
[07:45] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   look in the software center - LOTS of notes apps are available
[07:46] <raketti> Abhijit: startx
[07:47] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, yes there is knotes, and xpad and lots. I am looking for sticky notes for gnome. (damn. don't even know the package name)
[07:47] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   xjournal is pretty handy
[07:47] <Abhijit> raketti, please do uname -a in terminal and tell me the output
[07:48] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, is it like sticky? stick em up on your desktop?
[07:48] <raketti> Abhijit: can i get the output straight here? using irsssi...
[07:48] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   look in software and then go the site shown for more info.
[07:48] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, hmm ok
[07:49] <raketti> Linux lakka 3.1.10-grbfs-kapsi #2 SMP Sun Jan 22 18:37:08 EET 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:50] <Abhijit> raketti, no
[07:50] <bazhang> ecthiender,for gnome3?
[07:50] <Abhijit> raketti, are you sure the system you are using is ubuntu?
[07:50] <raketti> Abhijit: it's mint, but close enough..
[07:50] <bazhang> !mintsupport > raketti
[07:51] <Abhijit> raketti, please ask in the mint channel. it is not same. they have different configuration. they should be better knowing why x is not starting automatically
[07:52] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, I'm downloading a 124 mb zip file now with some driver off of Intel's site that matches my card but I have no idea what to do when the download completes... I'm super newbie
[07:52] <raketti> trying.. no answer.. frendlier people here :D
[07:55] <bazhang> !info xpad | ecthiender
[07:55] <CFHowlett> macosx only?
[07:55] <ecthiender> bazhang, thanks. but i was specifically looking for sticky notes. its an applet. this one: http://library.gnome.org/users/stickynotes_applet/stable/stickynotes-introduction.html.en
[07:56] <ecthiender> and i can't seem find it in the repo
[07:56] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, yeah, I would either stick with what ubuntu repos offer, or get the PPA for that card. you have to extract that package contents and follow the instructions on the read me file
[07:56] <bazhang> ecthiender, and it was removed
[07:57] <ecthiender> bazhang, oh. thanks. that was the insight I needed :)
[07:57] <bazhang> ecthiender, trying to suggest an alternative, like knotes or xpad, tomboy perhaps
[07:57] <dan3son> Shit I fixed it.
[07:57] <ecthiender> bazhang, think I'll go with xpad
[07:57] <Chat9598> Hello all
[07:57] <bazhang> though tomboy is way more than stick notes
[07:57] <dan3son> I just had to restart the daemon
[07:57] <ecthiender> bazhang, yeah. we all know about tomboy
[07:57] <Chat9598> /Nick faceitone
[07:57] <dan3son> I have a Debian/Ubuntu question for you guys though, an easy one
[07:57] <ye> 额 大家好
[07:58] <number_one_1> hey noob ? here do u need a ccleaner for linux?
[07:58] <dan3son> I installed the daemon and in /etc/default/transmission-daemon it's configured 'ENABLE_DAEMON=1'
[07:58] <dan3son> And I an stop/start it with /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon
[07:58] <dan3son> My question is, how does Ubuntu start up my daemons at boot?
[07:59] <bazhang> dan3son, in startup applications? add it there?
[07:59] <dan3son> Where is the master list of processes to load stored? In windows this would typically be done in the registry
[07:59] <bazhang> ye  its english here, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[07:59] <Facitonne> It's magic
[07:59] <Aciid> dan3son: update-rc.d
[07:59] <bazhang> Facitonne, what is
[08:00] <bazhang> number_one_1, ccleaner is a registry cleaner? something like that?
[08:00] <triscuit> bleachbit
[08:00] <triscuit> ?
[08:00] <dan3son> Thanks Aciid
[08:03] <number_one_1> anyone got comment?
[08:03] <Foo438> Hello
[08:03] <number_one_1> hi Foo
[08:03] <Foo438> I'm setting up some server software on a computer running ubuntu
[08:03] <Foo438> I'm following this guide: http://funnymonkey.com/install-geoserver-ubuntu
[08:04] <bazhang> number_one_1, about what?
[08:04] <number_one_1> do i need a cleaner for linux? like ccleaner for win?
[08:04] <bazhang> number_one_1, apt will recommend you remove packages when necessary
[08:04] <number_one_1> oh ok
[08:04] <workcjk> How do I edit a printer in the printer settings?
[08:04] <roy_m> Hi, I am writing a intro how to lab for snort. I have installed everything nicely and it appears to be working as it is generating logs when I portscan using nmap. Can anyone suggest and simple apt-get install type utilities for ubuntu that will run random hacks. I really just want to generate a whole bunch of different alerts on my snort IDS. Thanks
[08:05] <workcjk> I can't figure out how to do it
[08:05] <SumoJim> JordanU: rcp Seemed to just work on Fedora 10, but we are just moving to Ubuntu.
[08:05] <Foo438> I have a problem though, in short the guide instructs you to create a link "/etc/init.d/geoserver" that links to geoserver/bin/initd.sh
[08:05] <workcjk> I wanna change it to duplex
[08:05] <collinjsimpson> roy_m:  BackTrack is very useful for those kinds of things.
[08:05] <sith> any one?
[08:06] <collinjsimpson> Is there any way to kick users out of a mounted directory so the directory can be unmounted (without logging off the users)?
[08:06] <Foo438> but when I try starting it up, "sudo /etc/init.d/geoserver start" I get an error: "sudo: unable to execute /etc/init.d/geoserver: No such file or directory"
[08:06] <Guest75809> how can i get the title bar of kubuntu??
[08:06] <roy_m> collinjsimpson: Yeah, I know but it is a 2 hour lab tutorial and backtrack takes time to install on ubuntu...
[08:06] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, fuser -k
[08:06] <ssta> collinjsimpson: not really, no
[08:06] <Abhijit> collinjsimpson, if you are root then you can do umount
[08:07] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, don't listen to ssta, use fuser
[08:07] <collinjsimpson> Abhijit:  umount doesnt work when users are using the resource. I need to get them out of the resource first.
[08:07] <roy_m> collinjsimpson, maybe I will just use a backtrack live cd
[08:07] <ssta> workcjk: which will kill the user's shell...
[08:07] <Guest75809> any body familiar with kde desktop?
[08:07] <Abhijit> Guest75809, yes
[08:08] <workcjk> ssta, exactle "kick users out of a mounted dir"
[08:08] <collinjsimpson> workcjk:  that helps identify what's using the resource. it doesnt help in freeing the resource
[08:08] <workcjk> exactly
[08:08] <ssta> workcjk: "...without logging them out"
[08:08] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, man fuser
[08:08] <olegb> Foo438: is the link created correctly, is there really a file/link in /etc/init.d/geoserver ?
[08:09] <collinjsimpson> workcjk:  'fuser -k' would kill bash for all users using the resource, kicking them out of SSH.
[08:09] <Foo438> olegb: yes I'm quite confident in that
[08:09] <workcjk> anyway, does anyone know how to "edit" a printer in the printer settings in 11.10
[08:09] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, ok i found a PPA matching what I need and I added it as a repo - how do I install? :)
[08:09] <olegb> Foo438: and it shows up when you do "ls /etc/init.d/" ?
[08:09] <workcjk> I really think it is stupid if I have to delete it and create it again.
[08:10] <Foo438> olegb: yup. btw I've tried using both a symlink and a hard one, no difference
[08:10] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, how many users are you talking about?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: Does a lazy unmount solve your particular issue?
[08:11] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, can you tell them to cd, cause otherwise, either kill them or don't unmount.
[08:11] <collinjsimpson> workcjk:  Arbitrary. The amount of users doesn't affect the way I'll go about solving the problem...
[08:11] <ssta> collinjsimpson: you can try to umount -f (which may or may not work, depending on what sort of mount it is)
[08:11] <olegb> Foo438: and geoserver/bin/initd.sh also exists ? you may need to used the full path to the file ..
[08:12] <Foo438> olegb: yep, the "target" file exists
[08:12] <pawleeq> Hi
[08:13] <olegb> Foo438: I would go through geoserver/bin/initd.sh and see if the problem is that the script tries to open a non-existing file
[08:13] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: If it's media which you need to remove safely, then a lazy unmount won't help. If you just need to mount something else there though, a lazy unmount is probably the way to go (anyone whos current directory is under the mountpoint during the umount will continue using the old filesystem until they cd. When all users are no longer using the filesystem it will actually be unmounted).
[08:13] <pawleeq> I have Genius MousePen 8x6, which was working pretty well, but after some updates (i havent been using it for a few weeks) it dos not work at all and it is not event listed in lsusb output, any clue pls?
[08:15] <collinjsimpson> Jordan_U:  That's good to know. It's a shame there seems to be no way of redirecting user shell locations.
[08:15] <dan3son> Okay. Now I'm having a permissions problem
[08:15] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: That'
[08:15] <dan3son> I tried moving the download folder to /srv/torrents because my samba folder is located in /srv/samba and it'd make it convenient to move files within an FTP client
[08:15] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: ... That's not the only problem. You also have anyone with any file open (in any utility).
[08:16] <dan3son> The transmission daemon obviously doens't have proper permissions to create files/folders within /srv/torrents (I had to sudo to create the directory)
[08:16] <dan3son> What can I do?
[08:16] <collinjsimpson> Jordan_U:  Sorry, I understand. I was using the term loosely.
[08:17] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: Why do you need to unmount the filesystem, what type of filesystem is it? (to help see what your options are).
[08:19] <dan3son> 'transmission-da' is being run by user 116
[08:19] <dan3son> What does that mean?
[08:19] <collinjsimpson> Jordan_U:  I'm using bindfs and fstab to share a directory among a set of users. In order for changes in fstab to take effect, I need to remount the filesystem.
[08:20] <ssta> collinjsimpson: -o remount doesn't help?
[08:20] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Correct.
[08:21] <ssta> collinjsimpson: I don't know of a way to do what you want then...sorry
[08:21] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  I guess it's understandable that it's (apparently) not possible to do. Lots of complications involved.
[08:22] <mattiasnorlander> Question: Is not holding down "shift" during boot of Ubuntu supposed to let me access grub boot menu?
[08:22] <ssta> collinjsimpson: I don't know that it's impossible (although I suspect it is).  Be interesting to see if you can find a way
[08:22] <Jordan_U> mattiasnorlander: Holding shift during boot should get you the grub menu.
[08:23] <DJones> mattiasnorlander: Yes it is, I think (from memory) its only left shift that does that though
[08:23] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  That's why I used the "apparently" qualifier :). I'll keep an eye out for a solution.
[08:23] <collinjsimpson> ssta, Jordan_U:  Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: If you want an ugly hack to keep them from losing their ssh session but still kill their shell, add something like this to their ~/.bashrc (after lots of testing to avoid infinite loops)...
[08:26] <mattiasnorlander> Jordan_U: DJones: trying left shift without result. I am running Ubuntu 11.10 minimal. TV just goes black after bios splashscreen until "Ubuntu starting..." splashscreen is shown
[08:26] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: if [[ "$hacky_second_shell_started" != true ]]; then hacky_second_shell_started=true; export hacky_second_shell_started; bash; fi
[08:26] <ssta> ewwww, yuck!
[08:27] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Yuck, indeed. Interesting, though.
[08:29] <arturaz> Hey folks. I'm having problems with localization in 11.10 (unity). I've installed language-pack-lt package, however language support does not how lithuanian in supported languages. Any ideas?
[08:29] <ssta> it will work, but you might run into problems if users have their own .bashrc hacks (eg to start stuff upon login)
[08:29] <ssta> and...eeewww!
[08:29] <ssta> anwyay, worktime.  Good luck with it collinjsimpson
[08:30] <goddard> if i installed something using make install how can i uninstall it?
[08:30] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Thanks for the help. Have fun at work.
[08:30] <ssta> I doubt it...going to spend most of the day writing vbscript hacks
[08:31] <JMLatvala> window
[08:31] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Ok, then have a mediocre day at work. Better?
[08:31] <JMLatvala> oops :>
[08:31] <ssta> haha, I'll try.  Thanks :)
[08:32] <kylesum> goddard, you can try make uninstall but few packages have that target
[08:32] <kylesum> otherwise.... rm?
[08:32] <douglaslucas> Just installed Linux for the first time tonight. Ubuntu using Gnome Classic.
[08:32] <collinjsimpson> douglaslucas:  Congrats. Welcome to the matrix.
[08:32] <willian> hi
[08:33] <derekyangdk> quit
[08:33]  * kylesum pats douglaslucas on the back
[08:33] <douglaslucas> thanks. :) :)
[08:34] <collinjsimpson> douglaslucas:  Is ubuntu now your primary OS?
[08:34] <iMeerkat> Hows everyone doing?
[08:35] <collinjsimpson> Not doing much, but doing.
[08:35] <douglaslucas> I plan for it to be, yes collin
[08:36] <iMeerkat> collinjsimpson I can say the same. I've been programming and just looked at the clock and its 430 :(
[08:36] <collinjsimpson> douglaslucas:  You're a better man than I. I don't think I'd manage in terms of recreation.
[08:36] <collinjsimpson> iMeerkat:  It's 4:30 over here as well. Class at 8.
[08:37] <douglaslucas> My machine is a MacBook Pro7,1 with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 320m. I installed nvidia-current from ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates as suggested by the help.ubuntu.com for my model & Ocelot, but that caused my screen to blip out in so many ways that i had to reinstall ocelot
[08:37] <iMeerkat> Ouch. I have class at 5.. pm lol
[08:37] <douglaslucas> Am curious if any has suggestions as to how i could tackle getting the right driver for ocelot and my card
[08:39] <iMeerkat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Oneiric
[08:39] <douglaslucas> iMeerkat: right, that's the one I was looking at and followed
[08:40] <iMeerkat> Whats going on with the video?
[08:41] <douglaslucas> iMeerkat: when I rebooted, the screen would blip out (a flash of a horizontal line) and go black. the machine would power off. nothing in reserve mode could fix it (that I could figure out, anyway)
[08:42] <derek> exit
[08:42] <douglaslucas> iMeerkat: the things I did in reserve mode eventually led to the screen blipping out again
[08:42] <gvandeweyer> What could be the reason that I can 'id ldap-username' as a regular user, but if I sudo the same command, the ldap user is not recognised ?
[08:42] <mrfelton> I have a schell script that does sep to sync a file from a remote server. My ssh key is on the remote server, and I can ssh without needing a password. When I run the sep command from the terminal, it works. When Iit runs from inside the base script, it asks for a password...
[08:42] <mrfelton> Why doesn't it use my ssh key?
[08:45] <iMeerkat> sorry it took me so long douglaslucas had to let the dog out I would try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Oneiric#Video_.26_Effects_.28Compiz.29
[08:46] <douglaslucas> no problem iMeerkat. Looking at the link now
[08:47] <sammmy> how do I update upstart?
[08:47] <collinjsimpson> apt-get install upstart?
[08:48] <collinjsimpson> sammmy:   if not, try 'apt-get update'
[08:49] <sammmy> is there some major incompatabilities with upstart's latest version and the one I got 0.6.0?
[08:49] <sammmy> 0.6.6
[08:50] <collinjsimpson> sammmy:  current version is 1.4, so an update from 0.6.6 might be substantial. Check the changelog: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[08:50] <anonymous_> hi
[08:50] <sammmy> Or is that the latest version?
[08:50] <anonymous_> wtf?)
[08:51] <AndyUbuntu> Hey everyone
[08:51] <collinjsimpson> sammmy:  Depending on how much 'legacy' support you need for upstart, you might not notice a change.
[08:51] <AndyUbuntu> has anyone ome across this problem
[08:51] <mr_ubuntu_12> hi ubuntu gurus can any1 please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:52] <AndyUbuntu> I have no application menus at all in gnome3, they are gone
[08:52] <mr_ubuntu_12> i have been waiting for ages in libreoffice community but no reply
[08:53] <AndyUbuntu> for example there is no menu for libreoffice, nautilus and other apps
[08:53] <collinjsimpson> AndyUbuntu:  You're sure you have them installed?
[08:54] <mr_ubuntu_12> Hi AndyUbuntu collinjsimpson anonymous_ sammy collinjsimpson  can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:54] <mr_ubuntu_12> libreoffice menus AndyUbuntu can be reinstalled
[08:54] <auronandace> collinjsimpson: i think he is refering to the file, edit and so on menus on the apps themselves
[08:55] <AndyUbuntu> collinjsimpson, they are menus on all applications and i did have them before
[08:55] <AndyUbuntu> they seem to be gone from an update
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu  here u go sudo apt-get remove lo-menubar
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> sudo apt-get install lo-menubar
[08:55] <douglaslucas> What is the equivalent of "System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers" in GNOME Classic ?
[08:55] <collinjsimpson> AndyUbuntu: My mistake.
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu sudo apt-get install libreoffice-kde for kde
[08:56] <AndyUbuntu> mr_ubuntu_12 this applies to other applications also
[08:56] <AndyUbuntu> like nautilus
[08:56] <Kartagis> I have an issue. I need to recover some photos from an fdisk'd disk, on which I have later written stuff on. what are the chances for me to recover them?
[08:56] <auronandace> Kartagis: not great
[08:56] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu this is for LibreOffice global menu
[08:57] <mr_ubuntu_12> Hi AndyUbuntu collinjsimpson anonymous_ sammy collinjsimpson  can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:57] <auronandace> !photorec | Kartagis
[08:57] <Kartagis> !info photorec
[08:57] <auronandace> !undelete | Kartagis
[08:57] <mr_ubuntu_12> auronandace Kartagis  can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:57] <AndyUbuntu> mr_ubuntu_12 thanks
[08:58] <mattiasnorlander> How do I get my wifi working when using ubuntu 11.10 minimal? it is not listed when using ifconfig. Could anybody point me in the right direction?
[08:58] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu oh u r welcome . u can pray for twins for me i return ;)
[08:58] <Foo438> Hello
[08:58] <Foo438> I'm setting up some server software on a computer running ubuntu
[08:58] <Foo438> I'm following this guide: http://funnymonkey.com/install-geoserver-ubuntu
[08:58] <auronandace> mr_ubuntu_12: i haven't used calc or graphs in libreoffice
[08:59] <Foo438> I have a problem though, in short the guide instructs you to create a link "/etc/init.d/geoserver" that links to geoserver/bin/initd.sh
[08:59] <AndyUbuntu> I have been using the gnome3 application menu and this seems to not be working anymore as so i am not able to see any of my app menus
[08:59] <Foo438> but when I try starting it up, "sudo /etc/init.d/geoserver start" I get an error: "sudo: unable to execute /etc/init.d/geoserver: No such file or directory"
[08:59] <AndyUbuntu> this was the main issue
[08:59] <mr_ubuntu_12> oh auronandace ,,, thanks but it really sucks lo macros are not so intelligent
[08:59] <douglaslucas> When I try System Settings - Hardware - Additional Drivers, there's nothing there for NVIDIA
[08:59] <Foo438> I have scrutinized it a bit and I can't find anything that's wrong, any ideas on how I should troubleshoot?
[09:01] <auronandace> !info testdisk | Kartagis
[09:01] <auronandace> Kartagis: photorec is in testdisk
[09:01] <Kartagis> auronandace: I'll try these, thanks
[09:02] <auronandace> Kartagis: no worries (always good to extol the virtues of backups)
[09:03] <Kartagis> auronandace: which fs has the better chances for a recovery? I'll keep that in mind
[09:04] <auronandace> Kartagis: don't know sorry, i've never needed to recover files
[09:05] <douglaslucas> Not sure what happened, I think I closed this channel window
[09:05] <douglaslucas> So with System Settings -> Hardware -> Additional Drivers, I don't see anything for NVIDIA
[09:05] <mr_ubuntu_12> Hi AndyUbuntu collinjsimpson anonymous_ sammy collinjsimpson  <douglaslucas> <auronandace>  <Kartagis> can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[09:06] <douglaslucas> and I'm not sure what "System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers" in the MacBook Pro 6,2 guide means
[09:06] <derek> l
[09:06] <auronandace> mr_ubuntu_12: i have already commented, stop highlighting people needlessly
[09:07] <Syria> Do you guys recommend that I install Gnome3 on my 11.10?
[09:07] <Oer> douglaslucas, maybe you need to enable the mac ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=
[09:08] <auronandace> Syria: i recomend you use whatever suits you best, xfce suits me best
[09:08] <Oer> Syria, guess what ? 11.10 comes with gnome3
[09:08] <auronandace> Syria: to find out what suits you try them out
[09:09] <ultrixx> Syria: yes try it out. i use kde
[09:09] <sammmy> how do you use forever to start node-inspector?
[09:09] <Syria> auronandace:  Oer  Is it completly compatable and will not cause problems?
[09:09] <Syria> ultrixx:  Using KDE makes me tired, It doesnt suit me at all.
[09:09] <derek> 2
[09:10] <Oer> Syria, completely compatible with what?
[09:10] <Syria> Oer:  With 11.10.
[09:10] <Oer> Syria, 11.10 runs on Gnome3
[09:10] <Oer> so i guess, yes?
[09:11] <bazhang> Syria, of course kde4 has an 11.10 version
[09:11] <Syria> Oer: I did not know that, Thank you.
[09:11] <quiescens> it doesn't come with gnome3 by default to my knowledge
[09:11] <Syria> bazhang:  :D
[09:11] <bazhang> Syria, install kubuntu-desktop to get it
[09:11] <auronandace> !unity | Syria
[09:12] <Syria> Thank you very much guys, I am upgrading to 11.10 right now.
[09:12] <UrB> quiescens: yeah, not by default, but can install it from the default repositories
[09:13] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!
[09:13] <ponrajuganesh> how to cancel a bash script when it is running in the background
[09:14] <Oer> ponrajuganesh, kill -9 <PID>
[09:14] <Oer> ponrajuganesh, to find the PID, run TOP of Htop ( not installed default )
[09:14] <ponrajuganesh> Oer: when I do over grep with the bash there are few more runnin? is there any way to find the script name associated with every
[09:15] <yuskhanzab> hi
[09:15] <sacarlson> ponrajuganesh: maybe killall scriptname
[09:16] <douglaslucas> Oer: none of those nvidia mac packages are for ocelot :(
[09:16] <Oer> ponrajuganesh, see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kill-a-process-by-process-name-from-ubuntu-command-line/
[09:17] <Oer> douglaslucas, i am sorry.
[09:17] <ponrajuganesh> fine :) thanks Oer and sacarlson
[09:24] <[Si]> douglaslucas do the graphics work with the noeuvau built in drivers?
[09:25] <douglaslucas> Si: yes but they look slightly bad somehow. I'm not very good with visual vocabulary, so hard to describe. I could screenshot though
[09:26] <[Si]> I have a Macbook air, I swaped to the closed nvidia drivers but it makes the bits outside X look very bad
[09:26] <Kaco> morning
[09:26] <douglaslucas> Si: outside X?
[09:27] <[Si]> if you use like ctrl-alt-f1 to get a text console.
[09:27] <[Si]> and while it boots/shuts down.
[09:28] <Kaco> frambuffer console? i bet bootloader sets up some weird resolution
[09:29] <douglaslucas> ah, then I am not too concerned about outside X :)
[09:31] <mohtadi> Hi everyone
[09:31] <mohtadi> Anyone knows how to change the file receiving folder for bluetooth in ubuntu?
[09:32] <mohtadi> files are received automatically in /Downloads but i need them to be stored at a different location
[09:32] <douglaslucas> Is "System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers" the same as "System Settings - Hardware - Additional Drivers" ?
[09:32] <aatish> hi
[09:33] <aatish> i have problem "Load Karnel" in grub
[09:33] <Oer> douglaslucas, yes
[09:33] <aatish> can anyonehelp me
[09:34] <sacarlson> aatish: you want to change or add a kernel in grub2 menu?
[09:34] <[Si]> Kaco, on my mac at least I had to bypass the FB Console totaly, "nomodeset" + LINUXGFXPAYLOAD=text to make it usable.
[09:34] <douglaslucas> Hmm since the mactel packages are old, is there another way I could get my nvidia card to show up in Additional Drivers?
[09:34] <matt5> I'd rather not go through the whole installation process -- can I somehow download a virtualbox image of 12.04 beta? I'm trying to find it, but no luck so far. anyone have a clue as to where I may be able to find it?
[09:35] <aatish> sacarlson :  I m newbie in linux ubuntu plz can you guide me or tel me any resource with that i can fix that
[09:35] <Oer> aatish, isn't that specified in the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file ?
[09:35] <Oer> eh sorry aatish , is for mohtadi
[09:36] <aatish> plz send me any link or form so i'll fix that i m gud in win platform n developer in php
[09:36] <cris_> i've installed macbuntu, docky menu looks fine, but i still have the unity bar on the left and the gnome panel looks the same
[09:36] <Oer> mohtadi, isn't that specified in the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file ? it will change for all download, afaik
[09:38] <[Si]> douglaslucas, the way I did it was quite a hack, it's proably best for someone that knows the propper ubuntu way to tell you, or you could hit issues updating later.
[09:38] <aatish> i can't boot my system
[09:38] <Oer> douglaslucas, what Nvidia videocard? open terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[09:39] <ponrajuganesh> what command to move all the files form one directory to another
[09:39] <douglaslucas> Oer: GeForce 320M
[09:39] <douglaslucas> er
[09:39] <douglaslucas> hang on
[09:39] <[Si]> ponrajuganesh mv /dir/* /newdir/
[09:40] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know why my gnome 3 extension for applications could be gone?
[09:40] <AndyUbuntu> is not working*
[09:40] <douglaslucas> Oer: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 08a0 (rev a2)
[09:40] <cris_> bump :)
[09:42] <[Si]> douglaslucas, the problem with mine is the EFI bios/VBE emulation layer doesn't show anything but 640x480 or 800x600 so the FB console is just a mess. until I hacked it.
[09:42] <[Si]> that could be the same as you are seeing.
[09:43] <Oer> douglaslucas, is it a hybride video / intel + nvidia ?
[09:44] <douglaslucas> Si: That sounds intimidating :)
[09:44] <douglaslucas> Oer: I'm not sure about the video part, but it's Intel, yeah
[09:45] <Oer> ah, theb
[09:45] <Oer> ah then you should check bumblebee >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[09:45] <sacarlson> aatish: maybe try this and tell me how it goes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIHWoJhIII
[09:46] <Oer> douglaslucas, else there is a #Bumblebee channel too here on freenode, those guys are up2date
[09:47] <[Si]> Ah I didn't realise the MBPs had hybrid setups. Sorry for the confusion there douglaslucas
[09:48] <Defusal> hi everyone
[09:48] <aatish> sacarlson : tx for that i'll try that
[09:48] <Oer> [Si], me too, but the specs of the video gave me a clue
[09:49] <Defusal> i've added the following line to my /etc/sudoers file, but still get "adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system." -- "admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/home/admin/script/add_system_user", does anyone know why?
[09:50] <MestreLion> can an ubuntu repo contain 2 versions of the same package?
[09:50] <Oer> MestreLion, yes, 32 & 64 bit
[09:50] <ikonia> MestreLion: if they are named differently, sure
[09:50] <ikonia> MestreLion: most common is to seperate into different repos though
[09:51] <mohtadi> Oer:  yes that's it!!! thanks XD
[09:51] <ikonia> Defusal: depends what's in that script
[09:51] <MestreLion> Oer: ok, let me rephrase that... given a single arch , single release, and not considering repos like security, updates, backports, etc
[09:51] <ikonia> MestreLion: the common approach is to have one version per repo
[09:52] <ikonia> MestreLion: it makes functionality such as searching simple and no need for pinning when installing
[09:52] <Defusal> ikonia, oh i am a retard
[09:52] <Defusal> i forgot to add sudo to the script :P
[09:52] <Defusal> i thought it wasnt needed
[09:54] <MestreLion> ikonia: but... is it *possible*? Are there any cases of that currently in Ubuntu? (and i mean same package names, i'm not considering packages like wine1.2 and wine1.3, since, for ubuntu, they are different packages
[09:54] <ikonia> MestreLion: there are no cases in the ubuntu repos
[09:54] <MestreLion> ikonia: glad to know :D
[09:54] <ikonia> MestreLion: and no - same package names is not possible
[09:56] <MestreLion> ikonia / Oer  : just to make sure I understood correctly. If i run apt-cache policy <somepackage>, and it shows me more than 1 available version, these different versions must be necessarily in different repos, correct?
[09:56] <yanniboi> \j #drupal-commerce
[09:57] <ikonia> MestreLion: yes
[09:57] <MestreLion> so 1 would be from security, the other from, say, updates, and the last from... err.. how can i call it? "main" ?
[09:58] <ikonia> MestreLion: why don't you give us the actual example
[09:58] <MestreLion> ikonia: i'm not talking about any particular package... i'm making a script to calculate "Ubuntu size"
[09:59] <MestreLion> an estimation of how large a system would be if *all* available packages are installed
[09:59] <MestreLion> (provided someone is crazy enough to do so)
[09:59] <quiescens> vast swathes of packages conflict with vast swathes of other packages
[10:00] <MestreLion> something like "reposize maverick amd64"
[10:00] <ikonia> MestreLion: just do a dummy rsync on the mirror - it will give you the size
[10:01] <MestreLion> quiescens: sure, no one can install *all* packages, since there are conflicting ones (like wine1.2 and wine1.3), but i can ignore those corner cases for a ballpark estimative
[10:01] <MestreLion> ikonia: I'm planning on parsing Packages.gz for the given distro/release/arch
[10:02] <mato__> hey guys, somebody help how to make facebook chats on ubuntu? :(
[10:02] <MestreLion> my problem was how to deal with security, updates, backports, etc
[10:03] <MestreLion> mato__: define "make chats". Isn't Gwibber enough?
[10:04] <mato__> Mestrelion, am a newbie in ubuntu
[10:04] <MestreLion> ikonia: so, if it is safe to assume that all packages in security are just a higher version of an existing package in main, and considering their size is usually similar, I can simply ignore security/updates/backports and still have a nice estimative, correct?
[10:05] <MestreLion> mato__: what version are you using?
[10:05] <ikonia> MestreLion: sounds reasonable
[10:05] <douglaslucas> does a sudo apt-get always use a default repository unless told otherwise?
[10:05] <douglaslucas> *the same default repository
[10:06] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: nope... it uses the repository that contains the most recent version of a given package
[10:06] <ikonia> douglaslucas: the repos are hardcoded, some of the hosts are load blancers
[10:06] <mato__> MestreLion: am running on ubuntu 11 and a mozzila browser
[10:06] <ikonia> douglaslucas: it will use the repo that is hardcoded into your apt config
[10:07] <douglaslucas> ok one Feb 2012 forum post about my exact same model is suggesting:
[10:07] <mato__> MestreLion:  I googled and got this command: sudo dpkg -i pidgin-facebookchat-1.38.deb
[10:07] <MestreLion> mato__: no need
[10:08] <douglaslucas> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings        followed by    sudo nvidia-xconfig     which creats /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then reboot
[10:08] <mato__> MestreLion: then the command produces error " Command not found"!
[10:08] <MestreLion> mato__: you can use either facebook.com's website, OR, if you want a standalone app for facebook chat, use Gwibber... it is pre-installed in Ubuntu 11.10...
[10:08] <anudaasa> helou, i have question, how can i give my program to depository ?
[10:09] <[Si]> douglaslucas that will install the nvidia blob drivers (closed)
[10:09] <vta> Hello everyone
[10:09] <[Si]> hey vta
[10:09] <MestreLion> mato__: golden hint: NEVER, EVER run commands that you googled in random blogs if you are dont 100% understand what it does
[10:09] <douglaslucas> last time I tried switching to the nvidia proprietary driver (using the help.ubuntu.com guide), I didn't install nvidia-settings or do an -xconfig
[10:10] <mato__> MestreLion: Oh, I get that
[10:10] <[Si]> you may wish to check Bumblebee works with the proprietary driver or your battery life will be shocking.
[10:10] <douglaslucas> what's bumblebee?
[10:10] <douglaslucas> power manager?
[10:10] <[Si]> it would appear you have 2 gpus
[10:11] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: combining both mine and ikonia's answer: you have a list of repositories that Ubuntu will search for when you apg-get install a package. If the sotfware is found in more than 1 of them, the one it downloads and installs is the one with the most recent version #
[10:11] <anudaasa> douglas: fat flying insect :-)
[10:11] <[Si]> as Oer pointed out (and I totaly missed) Bumblebee supports this "Optimus" tech.
[10:11] <mato__> MetreLion: How is the best way to learn ubuntu, if forums are dangerous?
[10:12] <MestreLion> mato__: click on the Ubuntu icon, and type "gwibber"... or type "social", it will also work
[10:12] <anudaasa> mato: how forum is dangerous ?
[10:12] <[Si]> the idea is the intel GPU (Low power) runs almost everything then the Nvidia one is activated for the graphics intensive stuff, bumblebee does this for you.
[10:12] <douglaslucas> ah ok checking out the Bumblebee page now
[10:12] <anudaasa> mato: sorry, which forum is dangerous ?
[10:12] <ikonia> MestreLion: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <ikonia> oops
[10:13] <ikonia> sorry
[10:13] <MestreLion> mato__: forums are not dangerous... but don't run commands you find there unless you read about them, study them, and understand what they do
[10:13] <ikonia> mato__: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <vta> i have some questions about printer driver
[10:13] <[Si]> anudaasa people sometimes think it's funny to post commands that can kill your system, if you don't know linux they you may just run them blind.
[10:13] <nothingspecial> mato__, Do you have a problem at ubuntuforums.org
[10:13] <anudaasa> how can i give my program to depository ?
[10:14] <MestreLion> mato__: because some commands may not apply to your particular version / system... it may be outdated... it may require something else... or it may be plain wrong
[10:14] <quiescens> to be perfectly fair, its not really "forums" per se, so much as, "most of the internet", including this channel
[10:14] <anudaasa> si: ok :-)
[10:14] <MestreLion> very true quiescens
[10:14] <nothingspecial> If you see a dangerous command please report it and the staff will deal with it
[10:15] <vta> Is there any way to install Canon series on armel?
[10:15] <zlynx1> vta: what is armel ?
[10:15] <douglaslucas> Si: should I install the nvidia closed drivers first or Bumblebee or does it matter?
[10:16] <anudaasa> si: i have firewall, so, nobody can kill my system :-)
[10:16] <MestreLion> mato__: for example, the command you posted will install a package named pidgin-facebookchat-1.38.deb , ***provided that this packaged is already downloaded to the local hard drive, to current directory**
[10:16] <Oer> douglaslucas, the bumblebee ppa provides de driver and the switch
[10:16] <douglaslucas> ah ok
[10:16] <vta> armel just likes i386 or adm64
[10:16] <douglaslucas> so straight to Bumblebee (and maybe ask the #Bumblebee folks first :)
 Thats nice info, I really appreciate
[10:17] <[Si]> douglaslucas that would be a good plan, I don't have any hybrid kit here to test with.
[10:17] <Oer> douglaslucas, yes, good idea, but be carefull, bublebee is not perfect yet. it still uses double X
[10:17] <douglaslucas> double X?
[10:17] <MestreLion> mato__: but manually downloading .deb files and installing from local hard drive is usually NOT a good idea... and it should never be your *first* approach.... for that, use Software Center... he is your dearest friend if you are a newcomer
 Av been in windows for too long and I think ubuntu is fantastic
[10:18] <anudaasa> yes, install from internet
 where do i get the software center?
[10:19] <MestreLion> mato__: in Windows world is common practice to hunt .EXEs in thw wild web, download and run them... that is NOT a good practice in Ubuntu
[10:19] <nothingspecial> mato_ if you are unsure of any command you find on ubuntuforums just ask
[10:19] <MestreLion> mato__: in Ubuntu you have a VERY convenient Software Center, where you can *safetly* download more than 30.000 software
[10:20] <anudaasa> yes, i am using Ubuntu Software Center
 this is surely a good place to be, yet i feel like a kid, yet in windows am my own guru hahahah
[10:21] <MestreLion> mato__: it automatically chooses the version and architechture that best fits YOUR system... downloads and installs them with a single click
[10:21] <bluefrog> MestreLion, not a good practice in W either
[10:22] <douglaslucas> Can a 64-bit OS (well, specifically, Ocelot) run 32-bit programs like WINE?
[10:22] <vta> Does any1 install Canon printer on armel?
[10:22] <MestreLion> mato__: so until you are more familiar with Ubuntu, stick with Software Center *only* for getting new software... it will save you a LOT of headaches until you are more confortable
[10:22] <sipior> douglaslucas: yes. there are 32-bit support libraries you'll need to grab as well.
[10:23] <mato__> This is great piece of advice
[10:23] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: generally, no. But some packages allows this if they are compatible with ia32-libs... wine is one of them
[10:23] <douglaslucas> siplor: okay, thanks. Install the libraries before or after installing Bumblebee + rebooting ?
[10:23] <douglaslucas> *the 32-bit libraries
[10:24] <MestreLion> true bluefrog ... but in Windows you have no other choice... there is no Software Center... you are FORCED to hunt down websites and download executables from unkown sources
[10:24] <MestreLion> mato__: use TAB to auto-complete nicknames here... ;)
[10:25] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: before
[10:25] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: wait... *how* are you installing Bumblee ?
[10:26] <mato__> MestreLion,  wow, it works, by tabs, thanks, thats great tip!!
[10:26] <MestreLion> ;)
[10:27] <MestreLion> mato__: back to your original question... have you found gwibber ?
[10:27] <douglaslucas> MestreLion: I was planning to follow the instructions here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation , once I figure out what the one command I don't get is
[10:28] <mato__> MestreLion, thanks , I open facebook direct and now  i can chat
[10:28] <MestreLion> mato__: didn't it work before?
[10:28] <ubuntu> i cant chat
[10:28] <mato__> MestreLion,  but yesterday i tried chatting it cudnt, so i thot its some missing pluggins
[10:28] <ubuntu> no dude
[10:29] <MestreLion> no plugins needed to use facebook...
[10:29] <ubuntu> is this real chat
[10:29] <MestreLion> ubuntu: are you ok?
[10:30] <[Si]> douglaslucas which command are you unsure of?
[10:30] <mato__> yeah, now am okay, but i wud like to learn abt qwibber
[10:30] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: seems pretty straight-forwards instructions... what is not working?
[10:31] <douglaslucas> I'm not sure what "sudo usermod -a -G bumblebee $USER" means/does. And the bumblebee-project.org page says to change $USER and the wiki.ubuntu.com page says changing $USER is unnecessary :)
[10:31] <douglaslucas> I think they should have a cage match
[10:31] <[Si]> it adds your current user account to the bumblebee group
[10:31] <Wabs> Good morning everyone
[10:32] <[Si]> if you do echo $USER, it will show you what it would expand to :)
[10:32] <[Si]> hey Wabs
[10:32] <douglaslucas> ah ok cool
[10:33] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: it only means $USER can be used literallty... because bash automatically expands that to your actual username
[10:34] <mato__> MestreLion,  Thanks greatly, am going for lunch, will meet u later
[10:34] <MestreLion> altought it is weird for a video driver to require user to add to group
[10:35] <MestreLion> side-note: douglaslucas... if you don't know what usermod is or how it works, you probably should not edit /etc/sudoers
[10:35] <[Si]> MestreLion, it uses a kernel module to disable the second GPU when it's not used, I assume the group is too allow non-root users to do this.
[10:36] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: not requiring passowrd when using sudo is a VERY, VERY, EXTREMELY bad idea
[10:36] <MestreLion> [Si]: humm.. well, in this case, fair enough
[10:40] <MestreLion> oh man, sorry... the guy who was editing /etc/sudoers was Defusal , not douglaslucas ... really sorry for the confusion
[10:40] <douglaslucas> s'ok
[10:40] <douglaslucas> that's weird, the apt-get install was able to locate two of the libraries,
[10:40] <douglaslucas> but the final, third one, virtualgl-libs:i386
[10:40] <douglaslucas> *but not
[10:41] <MestreLion> because that one is in the PPA
[10:41] <douglaslucas> so then I would do,
[10:42] <MestreLion> ... or not. let me check
[10:42] <douglaslucas> sudo apt-get-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable install virtualgl-libs:i386   ?
[10:42] <MestreLion> btw... what is the relation between wine and bumblebee ?
[10:42] <douglaslucas> I don't understand how Linux switches back and forth between repositories
[10:43] <MestreLion> it doesn't... it scans all repos when you search for a package
[10:43] <[Si]> Wine needs the 32bit OpenGL
[10:43] <douglaslucas> ok, so does  add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable    just add another repository in its list of repositories to scan?
[10:43] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: exactly
[10:44] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: and then apt-get update reads all the repos and fetches the available package names
[10:44] <MestreLion> so when you open Software Center (or Synaptic, or apt-get, or aptitude), it will list packages from all these repos
[10:45] <lupzz> hi, how can I print a PDF 4-pages per sheet, correctly double-sided (p1 and p2 must be on different sides of the sheet)?
[10:45] <MestreLion> it knows wich packages (and versions) are in each repo, so you don't have to worry about that
[10:46] <bmejias> o
[10:46] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: the problem is that sometimes people add the new repository but forget to update the package list...
[10:46] <douglaslucas> ah hah
[10:47] <LMX> Hello all, can i logout my current session and get a new login screen without killing X session...I mean Xorg should not get killed and start again...
[10:47] <lupzz> I must do something like, print to PDF odd pages 4-pages per sheet, print to PDF even pages 4-pages per sheet, shuffle merge the two files in a single PDF
[10:47] <douglaslucas> cool, it worked after I ran  sudo apt-get update
[10:48] <sacarlson> LMX: yes it should work
[10:48] <Vooloo> can you remov
[10:48] <Vooloo> can you remov
[10:48] <mattiasn_> My harddrive is being detected by bios, but not shown when doing "sudo lshw _C disk". What does that mean?
[10:48] <Vooloo> ffs, can you remove the new left menu? i want to use gnome do instead
[10:49] <LMX> sacarlson, but when I logout the X session gets killed...ans starts again with a new pid...can u help me out with this
[10:49] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: not sure about the _C disk part,  maybe just sudo lshw | pastebinit ;   to see what we can see
[10:49] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: it looks like wine (and its libs) are not related to bumblegee at all... besides, 'im not sure why you would need to install the 32bits one, since there is a native 64 bits wine iin Ubuntu
[10:49] <netAction> Hi! Why doesn't apt-get install indicator-weather && reboot show the indicator in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:49] <MestreLion> netAction: have you white-listed it?
[10:49] <netAction> MestreLion: How?
[10:50] <MestreLion> netAction: i may be wrong, but i think pannel applets are now blacklisted by default
[10:50] <The_BROS> how to convert VOB-files from VIDEO-TS folder to one file?
[10:50] <MestreLion> and you have to manually whitelist the ones you want to allow
[10:50] <sacarlson> LMX: it should put you back into a login screen that you can now login to the same or another user account
[10:50] <mattiasn_> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/893442/
[10:50] <netAction> MestreLion: I can call the indicator in command line.
[10:51] <MestreLion> The_BROS: install handbrake
[10:51] <Fujk> can you remove the new left menu in ubuntu?
[10:51] <mattiasn_> sacarlson: how werid, it shows there when not using the "-C disk"
[10:51] <douglaslucas> ok so with the repository and the 32-bit libraries installed (just in case), I'm now going to  1) sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia  2) sudo usermod -a -G bumblebee $USER      .
[10:51] <douglaslucas> then reboot. I have all my stuff backed up and all on an external hard drive as I've been installing OS all day heh
[10:51] <LMX> sacarlson, yes i gets the login screen...but X session changes...I need Xorg session should not get killed...I am using a usb multiseat environment
[10:51] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: ya looks like they are all there now
[10:51] <MestreLion> netAction / Fujk : as for how, go to #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <mattiasn_> thanks! :)
[10:52] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: the libraries are for 32-bit version of wine... they seem not to be related with Bumblebee at all
[10:52] <[Si]> good luck douglaslucas!
[10:53] <douglaslucas> yeah, if I'm not back in a few minutes that's because it didn't work ;) (in which case I'm going to bed and messing with it tomorrow)
[10:53] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: also, rebooting is overkill
[10:53] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: as Linus once said, in Linux rebooting is for adding new hardware ;)
[10:53] <douglaslucas> hmm
[10:53] <Aufwind> Hi every body, I have a python script running by the command "nohup myscript.py > my.out &". Is see the prints of the output?
[10:53] <douglaslucas> so if I don't have to reboot, I can keep listening to M.I.A. :)
[10:54] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: and for 99% of actions you don't even need to re-login
[10:54] <[Si]> Aufwind tail -f my.out
[10:54] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: nope... because you are in the 1% that needs re-login
[10:54] <ikonia> !info gimp
[10:54] <douglaslucas> ah ok
[10:54] <douglaslucas> sorry, MIA
[10:54] <douglaslucas> here goes
[10:55] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: adding groups to a user requires that user to logout so the new group is effective
[10:55] <Aufwind> [Si], it seems like my.out has not captured all prints...
[10:55] <douglaslucas> hrm
[10:55] <douglaslucas> so after executing the usermod command,
[10:55] <[Si]> Aufwind add 2>&1 to your nohup you are missing the output to STDERR
[10:55] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: yes... the usermod is the only command there that requires you to re-login...
[10:55] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: if not, you would be able to use that immediately
[10:55] <douglaslucas> should I just logout and back in through the graphical interface in the top right (Log out)... the wheel thingie
[10:56] <ghl> Can anyone help me with this error? When im trying to install ubuntu server 11.10 i gives and error: unable to install the selected kernel ..... linux-generic-pae
[10:56] <[Si]> MestreLion he'd also need to disable KVM + the FM console stuffs
[10:56] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: yup. go ahead, and good luck :)
[10:56] <[Si]> FB console stuffs even
[10:56] <Aufwind> [Si], you mean "nohup myscript.py 2>&1 my.out &"   ?
[10:56] <[Si]> yes Aufwind
[10:56] <[Si]> no
[10:57] <MestreLion> [Si]: is he using KVM ?
[10:57] <[Si]> sorry you mean "nohup myscript.py my.out 2>&1 &
[10:57] <Aufwind> [Si], Ok thanks, again.
[10:57] <sacarlson> ghl: pick another one?
[10:57] <Deaconf19> anyone in here up?
[10:58] <[Si]> MestreLion yeah the non nvidia blob driver uses KVM (Kernel Video Mode)
[10:58] <ghl> sacarlson: it happens in the step Install the base system. How can I select another one there?
[10:58] <Aufwind> [Si], I assume, that if a process got started (without 2>&1)  there is no way to get hands on its output again? Is this right?
[10:58] <sacarlson> Deaconf19: 1546 people and counting
[10:58] <Deaconf19> wow
[10:58] <[Si]> Aufwind that's correct
[10:58] <sacarlson> ghl: is this the alternate install disk?
[10:58] <Aufwind> [Si], thank you!
[10:58] <Deaconf19> ok I was told to come here to ask how to change the LTSP Ubuntu loading image
[10:58] <Deaconf19> anyone know how to do this?
[10:58] <ghl> It is the ubuntu server 11.10 downloaded from the ubuntu site, and then burned to cd
[10:59] <ghl> 32 bit
[10:59] <MestreLion> [Si]: Humm... in this case, perhaps rebooting is really necessary... but again, the package should signal it like kernel packages do
[10:59] <Fujk> when I run live CD of new ubuntu it says I cant access my old /home partition because of permissions... so, if I reinstall will I be able to access it again or be forever locked out?
[10:59] <MestreLion> I mean, a properly built package does :D
[10:59] <[Si]> MestreLion in this case I imagine a reboot is needed :) it may also require some /etc/default/grub.conf hacking :)
[10:59] <sacarlson> Deaconf19: you want to make a custom install cd image?
[10:59] <MestreLion> Fujk: were you using an encrypted home folder?
[10:59] <Deaconf19> sacarlson, yes
[11:00] <Fujk> MestreLion, think so
 thanx. And what would be better Avidemux or Handbrake?
[11:00] <MestreLion> [Si]: which we both hope the package handles by itself...
[11:00] <[Si]> I'm with you on that one MestreLion
[11:01] <MestreLion> The_BROS: depends on usage... Handbrake is geared towards a smooth, "click here" workflow to convert DVDs to mkv files...
[11:01] <sacarlson> Deaconf19: I've never tried this one but looks cool http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[11:01] <MestreLion> The_BROS: while Avidemux handles... AVI files :P
[11:02] <bluefrog> Fujk, ll /home  if you see .ecryptfs, then you are using it. reinstalling and using same user and password. should be ok BUT you should do a capture of ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase before doing so, in  case you need to decrypt manually
[11:02] <Deaconf19> sacarlson: thanks
[11:03] <MestreLion> The_BROS: do you want to convert VIDEO_TS folders or avi files ?
 VIDEO_TS
 But sometime I need to convert one videoformat to another
[11:04] <Fujk> bluefrog, yes its there, where is the unwrap file?
[11:04] <MestreLion> The_BROS: install them both... and use whatever you like the most... they both have nice features... and none can cover all
[11:05] <douglaslucas> ok, haven't executed the second command yet, but the first, installing bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia, went well except for about ten "Possible missing firmware ... for module nouveau" messages involving the /lib/firmware/nouveau/ directory
[11:06] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: for bumblebee-specific errors, folks at #bumblebee will be able to provide you a much better support
 Thanx. I will do
[11:07] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: afterall, this is third-party software, not provided by Ubuntu repositories
[11:07] <Charlyftw> Bonjour tout le monde !
[11:08] <MestreLion> The_BROS: also, consider installing WinFF and mkvinfo
[11:08] <mattiasn_> Anybody good at getting Wifi connections up n running? I am not able to udnerstand really where the problem is located...
[11:09] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: can you see the access point of interest?
[11:10] <MestreLion> sacarlson: sarcastic note: be careful with "see"... he may reply with "yes, it is right on top of my desk"
[11:11] <sacarlson> MestreLion: yes I might of added more detail but they added none so I just folowed
[11:12] <MestreLion> i was jusk kidding anyway :)
[11:13] <Frank2> Hello everybody. I just installed Virtual Box and I have loaded an Ubuntu .iso image. It's allright but I can't see on the left of the top bar the applications menu. can you help me?
[11:14] <MestreLion> Ok folks... pro-bono support daily quota reached.. I'll go watch CSI now... cya!
[11:14] <douglaslucas> bye mestre, thanks for the help! :) :)
[11:14] <anudaasa> frank2: why you do that ?
[11:15] <no-name-> I'm trying to install a deb, on 10.04 x64, but it says "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'" ... there's no 64-bit package, so is there anything I can do?
[11:15] <mattiasn_> auto wlan0; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; wireless-essid Tottenhem
[11:15] <sacarlson> MestreLion: ok and that paycheck is in the mail,  thanks for your assistance
[11:15] <mattiasn_> sacarlson: Yes I can, but sudo ifup wlan0 yields weird results. However not I managed to connect by modifying /etc/network/interfaces I added lines:
[11:15] <mattiasn_> auto wlan0; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; wireless-essid Tottenhem
[11:15] <no-name-> I know you can install x86 stuff on x64 windows
[11:15] <Frank2> anudaasa: I need to test a server environment. but it's strange this thing... I can't access programs...terminal...
[11:15] <mattiasn_> That seemed to make it work after doing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:15] <lupzz> how can I print an a6 double-sided leaflet using an a4 duplex printer?
[11:16] <mattiasn_> I need to restart and see if it works automatically now..
[11:16] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: sounds good to me
[11:17] <Xabster-lap> Skype closes after 5 seconds or so when I try to run it... if I run it in a terminal it stays open until i close the terminal... how do i fix it so that it will stay running without a terminal window open?
[11:17] <anudaasa> Frank2: Ubuntu is good, there is no need to test
[11:19] <Frank2> anudaasa: yes I know, but this is not my machine, I can't do what I want, so virtualization is a temporary solution. According to you, what is the problem? I can see everything on the desktop, but not the menu in the top left bar. probably it's a trivial issue...
[11:19] <anudaasa> Xabster-lap: maybe reinstall skype
[11:20] <anudaasa> Frank2: can you boot cd of Ubuntu ?
[11:22] <Frank2> anudaasa: unfortunately I can't at this moment. I would burn the image, but I have not cds with me.
[11:23] <anudaasa> Frank2: can you do reboot ?
[11:23] <saju_ma> Error: Directory not empty,  while trying to remove a directory after killing copy operation running on it.http://dpaste.com/719428/
[11:23] <marysia> witam serdecznie . Jestem swieżym linuxowcem i sprawdzam różne rzeczy czy działaja
[11:23] <Frank2> anudaasa: I'm thinking about a monitor limitation, so I can't see the menu bar... I don't know.... Yes I have rebooted the machine. it works perfectly...
[11:23] <anudaasa> Frank2: fine :-)
[11:25] <Frank2> anudaasa: it's strange because I can see th time and other icons on the right top bar, why I can't see the application menu.
[11:25] <anudaasa> Frank2: i was same problem, there is program named Application Finder
[11:26] <anudaasa> in Application Finder are all installed programs, this is in new version, but this is no so big problem
[11:28] <Frank2> anudaasa: sorry actually the reboot is ok, but still I have the problem :-( Where can I find the appilcation finder?
[11:30] <anudaasa> Frank2: xfce4-appfinder
[11:31] <anudaasa> Frank2: install xfce4-appfinder
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> if anyone had to save error as me with skype, here's an easy fix (rename your ~/.Skype/shared.xml file to something else or delete it if you don't want a backup)
[11:31] <macele> Frank2: Do you have a bar on the left side of your screen?
[11:31] <kylen> Frank2: alt+F2 and type xfce2-appfinder if you don`t have panel
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> "had to save"
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> i wrote had the same*
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> what is this fucking autocomplete spell check
[11:31] <Mandy__> Hi! Can someone help me with my internet sharing? The wireless stops working when my laptop disconnects.  Have to keep my Ipod plugged in 24/7 to keep the internet sharing up!!!
[11:32] <Mandy__> Made sure power management on the wireless card is turned off, can't think of what else it could be.
[11:32] <Xabster-lap> can you turn it back on without the ipod plugged in?
[11:33] <Mandy__> Yes by resetting the whole network.
[11:33] <Mandy__> which is inconvienent to say the least, as I run the ubuntu box headless.
[11:33] <Xabster-lap> yeah, you definitely shouldn't have to do that
[11:33] <Xabster-lap> gotta go, my stop's here
[11:33] <AlanBell> adhitya: please ask in the channel if you have a question
[11:33] <Xabster-lap> fast train!
[11:34] <adhitya> i want to ask about my ubuntu server
[11:34] <Mandy__> Well at least my Ipod stays charged all the time, lol!
[11:35] <lolmaus> Hi! My server is running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) Server Edition. I would like to upgrade it to 11.10 (Oneiric). How do i do that?
[11:35] <Frank2> anudaasa macele kylen:Ok here we go. I have started it. yes I can run commands... it's the first icon on the top of the left bar. ok> I have started it.
[11:35] <kylen> lolmaus: apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:36] <adhitya> how do i configure ntp server on my ubuntu ?
[11:37] <lolmaus> kylen, why not do-release-upgrade?
[11:37] <Frank2> anudaasa macele kylen: But how can I show  the application menu on the top bar?
[11:37] <kylen> adhitya: cat /etc/ntp.conf and look at line about server
[11:37] <adhitya> ok thanks..
[11:37] <kylen> adhitya: when you type right server ten 'service ntp restart'
[11:38] <adhitya> oke thanks..
[11:38] <LMX> Hello all, can i logout my current session and get a new login screen without killing X session...I mean Xorg should not get killed and start again...
[11:38] <kylen> np
[11:38] <kylen> lolmaus: first do backup all config file ( etc. samba itp. )
[11:38] <anudaasa> Frank2:  i like ubuntu without application menu :-) ,,, it is like wmware :-)
[11:39] <kylen> anudaasa: hehe
[11:39] <anudaasa> sorry windowmaker
[11:41] <Frank2> anudaasa: :-) if you are saying that the new version does not include the application menu on the bar btu this new feature for me it's ok. I have thinking that was a problem of Virtual Box...
[11:42] <anudaasa> Frank2: no, its no problem
[11:42] <noaXess> hey..
[11:43] <Mandy__> Ubuntu just needs to stop being so buggy.
[11:43] <macele> Frank2: No it's just the new way, you can install gone-session-fallback if you like the old way
[11:43] <Estragon> Im trying to resize a partition using a ubuntu live usb and gparted
[11:43] <macele> *gnome-session-fallback
[11:43] <noaXess> i changed from kde to unity ubuntu-desktop... removed all unneeded kde packages and installed ubuntu-desktop.. works all fine...
[11:43] <Estragon> the step "shrink file system" is taking forever
[11:43] <noaXess> but now.. if i start thunderbird, cpu goes to 20-40% usage for thunderbird.. any idea?
[11:44] <auronandace> Estragon: what size was it and what size are you shrinking it to?
[11:44] <Estragon> im resizing a partition from 280GiB to 230GiB
[11:44] <auronandace> Estragon: what fs too?
[11:44] <Mandy__> Try telling it not to be so nice, noaxess.
[11:44] <Frank2> anudaasa: ok perfect for me is enough. thank you very much for your help!!! probably I need an ubuntu server instead of a classic ubuntu
[11:44] <noaXess> Mandy__: ?
[11:44] <Mandy__> man nice
[11:44] <Estragon> auronandace: I believe it's ext4 (its the main partition from my existing ubuntu install)
[11:45] <anudaasa> Frank2: maybe
[11:45] <noaXess> ahh :)
[11:45] <Frank2> macele: thank you macele! now I have the change to do everything!
[11:45] <noaXess> Mandy__: but that can't be the solution.. right?
[11:45] <auronandace> Estragon: wow, why do you have a ubuntu / partition as 200+ GB?
[11:46] <anudaasa> Frank2: by the way, how you do whispering ?
[11:46] <Kk2> the package xmonad is brother on 12.04? cause i installed with apt-get choose xmonad on gdm but doest worked :S
[11:46] <Mandy__> As far as I can tell, I'm the only person on the planet with my ubuntu problem.
[11:46] <Estragon> auronandace: I have a single hard drive and I gave all the space to ubuntu
[11:46] <Mandy__> Lots of people with wifi not working after sleep, but none with it no working unless you keep an Ipod plugged in.
[11:47] <auronandace> Estragon: how full is it while you are resizing?
[11:47] <Estragon> auronandace: about 180 GiB are used
[11:47] <auronandace> Estragon: ah, yes, that would take a little while i would expect
[11:47] <auronandace> Estragon: how long have you been waiting?
[11:48] <Estragon> auronandace: about 10 minutes made me believe something was wrong
[11:48] <auronandace> Estragon: just 10 mins?
[11:48] <Frank2> anudaasa: Sorry I can't undestand your question...
[11:48] <anudaasa> Frank2: anyway
[11:48] <Mandy__> It takes a lot longer than 10 minutes to copy 180g lol
[11:48] <anudaasa> Frank2: never mind
[11:49] <mhts> hi guys. i want to download a new cd. do you know any channels to get info about how to do this?
[11:49] <Mandy__> There also might be some large files it's having difficulty fitting properly in the new partition, so it's moving small files around and around and around.
[11:49] <auronandace> Estragon: out of curiosity, how did you manage to fill up that partition to use 180gb?
[11:50] <Estragon> auronandace: media files on my home
[11:50] <Frank2> anudaasa: ok, pefect. thank you again, I try apply your advices, and probably I will let you know :-) see you soon
[11:50] <auronandace> Estragon: i keep a seperate storage partition for my files
[11:51] <Estragon> auronandace: yep, Im doing that too on my other computers but this one is a little older, when I was young :)
[11:51] <Estragon> another question : what filesystem should I use to prepare a windows install ? ntfs or fat32 (or other ?)
[11:52] <auronandace> Estragon: ntfs
[11:52] <Estragon> thanks
[11:52] <anudaasa> Estragon: from fat32 you can change to ntfs
[11:52] <auronandace> anudaasa: not really, you'd need to reformat
[11:53] <anudaasa> Estragon: fat32 has big restriction
[11:53]  * Jacta_ says hi
[11:53] <Estragon> ok
[11:53] <auronandace> Estragon: only xp can install onto fat32 now
[11:53] <auronandace> Estragon: also the 4gb max filesize limit is rather irritating
[11:54] <roowilliams> just installing ubuntu for the first time now - ubuntu's install process with the live os running in the background is SO good, but the partitioning process offers a bit too much control for newbies. It would be good if there was a more automated process for newbs that want to make space for windows and ubuntu (with an automated swap created)
[11:54] <anudaasa> yes for w7 is only ntfs
[11:54] <Estragon> ok, should people consider fat32 as deprecated ?
[11:55] <quiescens> i doubt it
[11:55] <auronandace> Estragon: its still widely used on flash drives
[11:55] <Xabster> hasn't it been for years?
[11:55] <auronandace> Estragon: most operating systems support fat32
[11:55] <anudaasa> i have fat32 on my usb drive
[11:56] <roowilliams> there are multifunctional printer devices at our uni - brand new.. they dont recognise my NTFS usb key
[11:56] <roowilliams> or drive rather
[11:57] <ibiwor> Hello! I'm unable to ssh into laptop connected to the same network. I can ssh from laptop to desktop but not the other way round. I restarted services on both the systems, purged openssh-server, openssh-client, did ssh-keygen/keyscan but still not working. This is output of ssh -vvv http://paste.ubuntu.com/893492/ How can I fix it?
[11:58] <jrib> ibiwor: can you successfully « ssh localhost » on the laptop?
[11:58] <vlt> ibiwor: What does `netstat -tulpen` look like on the target machine?
[11:58] <mr_ubuntu_12>  hi Quickly edit opens file in vi instead of gedit HELP PLZ
[11:58] <ibiwor> Comparing ssh -vvv from other system got same start and/etc /ssh/ssh_config are also completely same
[11:58] <anudaasa> ibiwor: can you ping other machine
[11:58] <ibiwor> jrib: Yes, ssh 0 works
[11:58] <Sidewinder1> Xabster, Kinda OT, but I believe that Win NT was the first to utilize NTFS; all of the other win OSs (3.11 {might've been fat16}, 95, 98, etc) and the repair portions of internal HDs used fat32.
[11:58] <anudaasa> ibiwor: ?
[11:58] <ibiwor> anudaasa: yes
[11:58] <b0bd0l3>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu,#fedora,#linuxjournal * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[11:59] <mcb_1>  ibiwor: What erro does ssh report? Ot it just timeout?
[11:59] <mickjagger> witam witam czy ktoś po Polsku Jestem nowym na linuxie i sprawdzam wszystko bo wszystko tu nowe
[11:59] <jrib> !pl | mickjagger
[12:00] <mickjagger> ok dziękuję bardzo i pozdrawiam
[12:00] <ibiwor> vlt: What I'm supposed to look for with `netstat -tulpen` on target system?
[12:00] <anudaasa> ibiwor: its your first time connecting on machine or not ?
[12:00] <ibiwor> mcb_1: It hangs at the last line as shown here http://paste.ubuntu.com/893492/
[12:00] <ibiwor> anudaasa: No
[12:00] <ibiwor> anudaasa: It used to connect fine before
[12:01] <anudaasa> ibiwor: ok, is there some firewall ?
[12:01] <ibiwor> anudaasa: $ sudo ufw status Status: inactive
[12:02] <anudaasa> ibiwor: ping working on both machines ?
[12:02] <ibiwor> anudaasa: yep
[12:03] <vlt> ibiwor: You should see sshd process listening to an IP and port number.
[12:03] <ibiwor> vlt: Umm, I'm trying to understand that
[12:03] <anudaasa> ibiwor: both machines have enough memory ?
[12:04] <vlt> ibiwor: You could !paste the output.
[12:04] <ibiwor> !
[12:04] <ibiwor> ok vlt
[12:05] <chroot> hi, is there any car racing games in ubuntu?
[12:05] <anudaasa> ibiwor: and what is after no connection,,,, connection refused ? or what ?
[12:05] <chroot> if it support LAN , will be perfect.
[12:05] <anudaasa> chroot: i dont know but i like transport tycoon
[12:06] <chroot> transport tycoon is a car racing game?
[12:06] <kylen> chroot: tuxracer
[12:06] <kylen> hehe
[12:06] <chroot> any other?
[12:06] <kylen> tuxracer2 :D
[12:06] <kylen> hehe
[12:06] <chroot> tuxracer is a pengua.
[12:06] <ibiwor> anudaasa: As said, it does nothing after debug1: Connecting to 192.168.10.103 [192.168.10.103] port 22. No error message so far
[12:06] <anudaasa> ChrisGagnon: tuxracer is car racing :-)
[12:06] <kylen> chroot: u must use wine :/
[12:07] <kylen> last time i check how run games on mac osx
[12:07] <kylen> 80% game work on preconfigure wine
[12:07] <anudaasa> ibiwor: maybe blocked port 22
[12:07] <kylen> fifa12 on mac run in wine
[12:07] <kylen> pro evolution too
[12:08] <kylen> but i do not understand what is problem on linux to run this game smootly
[12:08] <anudaasa> chronos: dosbox and bestoldgames.net
[12:09] <vlt> ibiwor: Ok. "tcp   0   0   0.0.0.0:22     0.0.0.0:*    LISTEN" tells you that sshd listens and should answer.
[12:09] <vindex> hi, im having trouble booting a custom kernel which used to boot just fine. there is no /dev/disk directory when i get the budybox shell
[12:09] <vindex> the scsi_wait_scan module is present in the initrd but it doesnt get loaded apparently
[12:09] <vlt> ibiwor: I'd have a look at the actual traffic on port 22. Either using tcpdump, iftop or similar.
[12:09] <ibiwor> vlt: Another thing I noticed is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/893506/
[12:10] <anudaasa> ibiwor: can you install vncviever and server ?
[12:10] <vlt> anudaasa: ?
[12:11] <anudaasa> anyway
[12:11] <ibiwor> vlt: I wonder why it says Need to get 0 B/1,296 kB of archives. after purging
[12:11] <vlt> ibiwor: Might be in cahce dir.
[12:11] <vlt> *cache
[12:12] <vlt> ibiwor: I don't think your sshd is the problem. Sounds to me like network related. Check whether IP packets arrive on port 22.
[12:12] <ibiwor> vlt: I got debug1: connect to address 192.168.10.103 port 22: Connection timed out ssh: connect to host 192.168.10.103 port 22: Connection timed out now
[12:12] <vlt> ibiwor: tcpdump :-)
[12:12] <ibiwor> vlt: Ok, trying tcpdump/iftop
[12:13] <ibiwor> vlt: But in the same network same port is being used by laptop to ssh to desktop ...
[12:13] <quiescens> i would probably look at "sudo iptables -L" on the system you are trying to connect to in order to eliminate the simpler possibilities first
[12:14] <ibiwor> quiescens: It says policy ACCEPT for INPUT/FORWARD/OUTPUT
[12:16] <anudaasa> ibiwor: can you change your user and try to cannect as someone else ?
[12:16] <anudaasa> connect
[12:16] <ibiwor> vlt: I also noticed that on ssh on desktop as localhost, it says - Last login: Wed Mar 21 17:20:30 2012 from ibiwor... recent time
[12:17] <ibiwor> anudaasa: Ok, will try that
[12:17] <anudaasa> ibiwor:  i mean, there is some time out
[12:17] <anudaasa> ibiwor:  maybe blocked packet or somethink
[12:18] <vlt> ibiwor: The "last login" line doesn't tell you anything about your network. What does tcpdump say?
[12:18] <mr_ubuntu_12>  hi Quickly edit opens file in vi instead of gedit HELP PLZ
[12:19] <sacarlson> mr_ubuntu_12: did you try right click in nautilus of the file type you want to edit to change what it uses to open them
[12:19] <sybarite> does anyone know here why my ubuntu has a gradually decreasing and increasing ping times with other networked machines on the same LAN?? Is this is kernel problem?
[12:19] <rileyp> mr_ubuntu_12 open a terminal and open it with gedit filename
[12:20] <anudaasa> mr_ubuntu_12: kedit :-)
[12:20] <sacarlson> sybarite: by how much change?  1 mili secound?  is the lan busy or quiet?
[12:21] <mr_ubuntu_12> rileyp thanks yes i did set gedit or geany to be default editor for python files but command "quickly edit" should open all files in gedit instead it opens one file in vi
[12:21] <sacarlson> sybarite: oh and is is a wired or wireless network?
[12:21] <skukza> hello, looking to run ubuntu on an old ppc mac mini is there a prefered version given the old hardware?
[12:21] <Douglas> !help
[12:21] <sybarite> sacarlson, yes 1 milisecond everytime its a wired network
[12:21] <auronandace> !ppc | skukza
[12:21] <Douglas> hello is there someone here who is knowledgable? I got install problems.
[12:22] <sybarite> sacarlson, sometimes its happening sometimes it does not
[12:22] <Estragon> auronandace: finally took 39 minutes to resize the partition \o/ thanks
[12:22] <sacarlson> sybarite: I'm not sure I can blink my eye in 1 milisecond so not sure I would notice it
[12:22] <auronandace> Estragon: that sounds about right
[12:22] <aatish_> hi everyone. am installed ubuntu 11.10 on an acer netbook model aspire one zg8 for a friend. i am having issues with the shutdown/restart. i get a black screen for minutes (it does not freeze) and does not shutdown or restart. can someone point me in the right direction how to solve this. Note. i applied all the updates and problem still there. thank you
[12:22] <skukza> cheers
[12:22] <Douglas> hello is there someone here who is knowledgable? I got install problems.
[12:23] <rileyp>  Douglas no we are all really stupid
[12:23] <DarkApex> mr_ubuntu_12 : check in your default application whether you have gedit as default text-editor
[12:23] <mr_ubuntu_12> HELP PLZ:  command "quickly edit" opens one file in vi instead of all files gedit
[12:23] <mr_ubuntu_12> DarkApex yes default editor is geany
[12:23] <sybarite> sacarlson, well its starts at 100ms and then goes till 1 then it comes back to 100 ms
[12:23] <Douglas> rileyp: knowledgable doesn't mean smart.
[12:23] <auronandace> Douglas: many are, depends what knowledge you need
[12:23] <Douglas> also, it helps being a decent person :)
[12:23] <sybarite> sacarlson, also this makes file sharing between the networks slower
[12:23] <rileyp> Douglas:  ask your question and stop wffling
[12:24] <Douglas> calm down rileyp
[12:24] <Douglas> not my fault you have a bad day
[12:24] <rileyp> waffling
[12:24] <rileyp> you r wasting time ask
[12:24] <aatish_> !patience
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> Douglas, Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed?
[12:25] <Douglas> auronandace: see PM
[12:25] <rileyp> Douglas:  why not type  five lines before you ask your question to lead us in gently please at your leasure
[12:25] <auronandace> Douglas: please keep it in the channel
[12:25] <Douglas> alright
[12:25] <Douglas> well the thing is that I've downloaded the 11.10 version of lubuntu
[12:26] <Douglas> but when the wubi starts up i can choose from 4 diff versions, but lubuntu isnt there
[12:27] <auronandace> Douglas: i don't use wubi. any reason you need wubi? why not a vm or a dualboot install?
[12:27] <Douglas> well im not technical(hence im here)
[12:27] <Douglas> i mounted the iso on a virtual drive on both poweriso and daemon
[12:28] <vlt> ibiwor: `tcpdump -i eth0 port 22` for example.
[12:28] <Douglas> but both programs keep starting up wubi once i run the virtual cd
[12:28] <auronandace> Douglas: dualboot is easy, a vm is easier
[12:28] <apple314> Hy guys! Hope someone has a little time... I'm trying to make a bash script that would change my ip add every x seconds, from available 192.168.1.0/24... Any ideas?
[12:28] <auronandace> Douglas: the hardest part it partitioning
[12:29] <auronandace> is
[12:29] <Douglas> okay but vm stands for virtual machine, right?
[12:29] <auronandace> Douglas: yes
[12:29] <auronandace> Douglas: we are happy to help you with partitioning
[12:29] <Douglas> also, how does dualboot work? i don't have a way to use a cd
[12:29] <Douglas> my laptop doesn't have cd/dvd capability
[12:29] <auronandace> !usb | Douglas
[12:30] <Douglas> ah k
[12:30] <ibiwor> vlt: $ sudo tcpdump -vv -i wlan0 port 22 tcpdump: listening on wlan0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
[12:30] <Douglas> and is this also avaible for lubuntu?
[12:30] <rileyp> apple314 yes write  a script that edits /etc/networks/interface in it the command sleep 6  a for next loop a variable and ifup and and ifdn
[12:31] <auronandace> Douglas: yes, it works with all of the supported buntus
[12:31] <vlt> ibiwor: Ok, keep that running and try to connect again.
[12:31] <Douglas> okay so i put the iso file on the usb and what then?
[12:31] <auronandace> Douglas: did you read the links ubottu gave you?
[12:32] <auronandace> Douglas: if you are using 11.10 you can dd or cat the iso to the usb
[12:32] <Douglas> as far as i understood it i need to install somekind of program
[12:32] <Douglas> "linux live usb creator"
[12:32] <rileyp> Douglas:   if you have windows install pen drive linux and you use this program in windows to make a bootable usb stick that will allow you to install any flavor you like
[12:32] <Douglas> what is dd or cat?
[12:32] <apple314> rileyp How would I do it?
[12:33] <auronandace> Douglas: programs that run on unix-like operating systems
[12:33] <rileyp> apple314:  go read a guide on how to use bash
[12:33] <adhitya> dd convert and copy a file ..
[12:33] <Jacta_> :op
[12:34] <apple314> rileyp: Yeah, guest as much. Anyway thanks for your time
[12:34] <Douglas> auron: i am still confused why lubuntu doens't show up in wubi
[12:34] <rileyp> Douglas:  cat is used in linux to view a file in a terminal
[12:34] <Douglas> even if you think it's irrelevant, i downloaded the lubuntu from their website and it isn't there
[12:34] <auronandace> Douglas:  i don't use wubi so i don't know
[12:34] <Douglas> it is just bizarre
[12:34] <Jacta_> Are you all sure!
[12:35] <sipior> apple314: i'm probably going to regret asking this, but what are you hoping to accomplish by changing out your interface address every few seconds?
[12:35] <Douglas> is there  a way to install lubuntu from the windows fire explorer?
[12:35] <rileyp> sipior:  it sounds like a univerity  homework problem
[12:35] <ldiamond> My ubuntu has memory leaks... any known fixes? Uptime of 8 days and my 6GB is almost completely taken. Program's memory usage really doesn't add up to 6GB, far from it.
[12:35] <Douglas> transforming my USB to a bootable linux version sounds advanced
[12:35] <auronandace> !wubi | Douglas
[12:35] <ldiamond> Is this a known thing with a fix?
[12:35] <sipior> rileyp: hmm, could be.
[12:36] <adhitya> Douglas: i think no ways.. except you are using live usb or live cd..
[12:36] <nikolai_> ldiamond: cat free pls
[12:36] <adhitya> Douglas : try unetbootin
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> sipior  havent you seen the movie 'untraceable"? if not, do so and see what you can do by constantly changeing your IP address
[12:36] <rileyp> Douglas: instll pendrive linux and make 3 clicks
[12:36] <Douglas> so basically my only way out is using a live usb or live cd, nothing inbetween?
[12:36] <sipior> ldiamond: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[12:36] <ldiamond> nikolai_ : Mem:       6122592    5715024     407568          0      58608     161004
[12:37] <sipior> MonkeyDust: uh huh :-)
[12:37] <adhitya> Douglas : try unetbootin
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> Douglas, With all due respect to the developers, many aspects of Wubi can be problematic. Please keep in mind that one of it's purposes is to simply try Ubuntu, from the windows environment. If one likes it, the next logical step is to install Ubuntu; dual-boot, and go from there.
[12:37] <ldiamond> sipior, this is not disk caching.
[12:37] <airtonix> sipior: i write with green text in my terminal, derp.
[12:37] <sipior> airtonix: that's nice.
[12:37] <ldiamond> sipior, I'm sitting at like 90%+
[12:37] <compdoc> whats a derp?
[12:37] <madrid> mariconaasss
[12:37] <ldiamond> sipior, and everything gets slow as hell.
[12:37] <rileyp> Douglas:  wubi is something made for you to try linux inst second rate to teh real deal as you have to boot to windows first
[12:37] <madrid> chuparlaa
[12:37] <Douglas> which is better, unetbootin or pendrive linux?
[12:38] <madrid> chupamela pijaa
[12:38] <airtonix> Douglas: whichever one works?
[12:38] <sacarlson> sipior: i'm just guessing but probly so there ISP (momy/dady) don't know who's been downloading all that stuff off the internet
[12:38] <Douglas> anyone knows which works better?
[12:38] <sipior> ldiamond: can you pastebin the output of vmstat?
[12:38] <rileyp> unetboot in us iued in linux to make a boot disk and pdl is used in doze
[12:38] <nikolai_> ldiamond: what about disk caching line?
[12:38] <rileyp> so if you have doze use pdl if you have linux use unetboot in
[12:39] <Douglas> what is doze?
[12:39] <rileyp> windoze
[12:39] <ldiamond> 250MB of cache
[12:39] <Douglas> heh
[12:39] <ldiamond> out of 6GB
[12:39] <rileyp> windows
[12:39] <Douglas> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/make-a-usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-11-10/
[12:39] <Douglas> seems fairly far away from "3 clicks"
[12:40] <ldiamond> I'm clearing a bunch of things out now, but I've been having issues for a while. I've read some forums where they say there are some memory leaks.
[12:40] <ldiamond> I basically just want to know if there is a known issue with a fix/workaround
[12:40] <adhitya> douglas : if you're using unetbootin u can use your iso image to make live usb..
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Douglas  "better" depends on what you prefer, MultiSystem is another way to create a bootable usb stick
[12:41] <rileyp> Doug  3 click will make a bootable usb you then reboot to teh usb and then your usb will bot and away you go install your new operating stystem
[12:41] <amaroks> Hello Guys
[12:41] <ldiamond> My PC was getting slow specifically because there was no more caching being done by the OS because of a lack of memory
[12:41] <amaroks> How do I move all dir contents excluding a folder within that dir?
[12:41] <Douglas> monkeydust, what do you mean with "what i prefer", are there options here? im using windows.
[12:42] <Douglas> rileyp i can still partition right?
[12:42] <ldiamond> I see the cache going up as I free some RAM. Though I can't get back down below 40% even when closing everything
[12:42] <Douglas> windows can be good if all else fails for certain programs which are rare.
[12:42] <ldiamond> I guess I could buy some 12GB extra...
[12:42] <quiescens> ldiamond: you could probably have a look at the output of "ps axuf" or something toget an idea of where things are if it is a usermode problem
[12:43] <rileyp> Douglas: yes when the usb boots you get all the options you may need to pres a button so it will boot to usb
[12:43] <compdoc> ldiamond, how much ram you have now?
[12:43] <amaroks> anyone?
[12:43] <Douglas> adhitya: unetbootin doesn't have support for lubuntu
[12:43] <rileyp> or edit bios settinsg to allow boot from usb
[12:44] <amaroks> How do I move all dir contents excluding a folder within that dir?
[12:44] <compdoc> amaroks, most commands like that have an option for recursion
[12:44] <ldiamond> compdoc, 6GB
[12:45] <ldiamond> quiescens, I'll try to figure out what to pipe it through to sort and add for total.
[12:45] <compdoc> amaroks, oh, excluding - I missed that
[12:45] <Douglas> rileyp: should i use YUMI or universal USB installer version? there are two on the website
[12:45] <rileyp> Douglas: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
[12:45] <sacarlson> amaroks: in nautilus you could try select drag and drop
[12:46] <ldiamond> quiescens, ugh, that will be hard to sort given it's grouped...
[12:46] <quiescens> ldiamond: you can use ps aux instead
[12:46] <amaroks> sacarlson: SSH
[12:46] <rileyp> Douglas:  download one of these and pdl and make a usb and reboot
[12:46] <Douglas> yeah I have that on torrent rileyp
[12:46] <Douglas> already downloaded
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Douglas  by "prefer" I mean, what you find easiest to use
[12:46] <quiescens> ldiamo: auxf is for looking at, not for trying to magically process it
[12:46] <adhitya> Douglas: i was trying all linux distro include lubuntu and it working...
[12:46] <sacarlson> amaroks: yes ssh , but skip the drag and drop and just copy and paiste
[12:46] <Douglas> that's the version which starts the wubi all the time when mounted as a vm
[12:47] <Douglas> adhitya: lubuntu isn't shown in the list of supported distros but i take your word for it
[12:47] <adhitya> douglas: okay..
[12:47] <ldiamond> quiescens, I know, but it's nice to have both :p (--sort=vsz)
[12:48] <Douglas> okay rileyp
[12:48] <Douglas> thx for the tips
[12:48] <Douglas> i'll try it
[12:48] <Douglas> your program does have lubuntu
[12:48] <Douglas> up until 11.10, unlike the other program
[12:48] <vlt> ibiwor: Can you past *one* example line of tcpdump's output here?
[12:48] <vlt> *past
[12:48] <vlt> *paste
[12:49] <rileyp> Douglas:  then choose another buntu and then install lubuntu desktop after. more than one way to f.. a cat
[12:49] <ibiwor> vlt:
[12:49] <ibiwor> Archimedes.ssh > Jovial.44712: Flags [S.], cksum 0x964b (incorrect -> 0xa1ed), seq 191021576, ack 804170849, win 14480, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 1659431 ecr 40970798,nop,wscale 4], length 0 18:15:55.642930 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)
[12:50] <adhitya> Douglas : try this .. open unetbootin -> select diskimage -> then select your lubuntu iso image -> select your usb drive and then ok -> wait until finish -> restart then try it
[12:50] <rileyp> then remove the other desktop if you dont want to keep it linux is smart you can have 5 differing desktops if you want all on the same machine
[12:50] <vlt> ibiwor: This is a packet _from_ an ssh server (Archimedes) to a client (Jovial).
[12:50] <rileyp> adhitya:  he only has windows at present I think
[12:51] <ibiwor> vlt: True
[12:51] <ibiwor> vlt: ibiwor (Jovial), Desktop (Archimedes)
[12:51] <adhitya> on linux too .. has unetbootin.. i think..
[12:51] <vlt> ibiwor: We are looking for one from the client to your server "Jovial".
[12:52] <adhitya> rileyp: on linux too .. has unetbootin.. i think..
[12:53] <ibiwor> vlt: from laptop(Jovial) to desktop(Arch)?
[12:53] <ibiwor> vlt: I said that laptop is able to ssh to desktop but desktop is not able ti
[12:53] <ibiwor> to
[12:53] <amaroks> no one has answer to my question? mv * /some/where , but with exluding a single folder
[12:53] <rileyp> adhitya i thought it was only on linux unetboot in lol
[12:53] <amaroks> ?
[12:54] <sacarlson> amaroks: nautilus failed to work?
[12:54] <adhitya> rileyp : i don't understand ..??
[12:54] <amaroks> What is nautilus?
[12:54] <vlt> ibiwor: To see whether packets from the client make it to the server we need to know whether there's a packet from the client to the server's port 22.
[12:55] <sacarlson> amaroks: the default filemanager
[12:55] <rileyp> adhitya: sorry i  thought unetboot in it was only on linux which is why i suggested pdl
[12:55] <adhitya> rileyp : sorry :-)
[12:55] <amaroks> sacarlson: how do I run that?
[12:56] <sacarlson> amaroks: $nautilus; file connect to server> select ssh> fill in ip and user name...
[12:56] <rileyp> adhitya:  bnah its all good is it on linux as well in buntu there is startup disk creator thats what I use
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> amaroks  first time you use ubuntu?
[12:56] <amaroks> Im already sshed into ubuntu server
[12:56] <amaroks> no way to just run it?
[12:56] <ibiwor> vlt: So I should try paste tcpdump o/p of client(laptop)?
[12:56] <adhitya> rileyp : okay .. i will try it later , thank you..
[12:57] <sacarlson> amaroks: you can ssh in many time from the same  source ip,  but this time it will be form nautilus
[12:57] <sacarlson> amaroks: it's a gui app nautilus, can't be any easier
[12:57] <vlt> ibiwor: trolling?
[12:58] <lasers`> Okay. I'm lost. I don't know what I'm missing. I'm learning NFS/Autofs. I'm on my laptop and I can access /net/xps.local/dir1 but I can't access /net/xps.local/dir2 (although I placed both dirs in server's /etc/exports (and did 'sudo exportfs -ra')
[12:59] <sacarlson> lasers`: what file system is the dir2 in?  ntfs?
[13:00] <lasers`> sacarlson: Not NTFS. It's either ext3 or ext4. I don't remember.
[13:00] <sacarlson> lasers`: then maybe apparmor?
[13:01] <sacarlson> lasers`: are the files perms and owner the same?
[13:01] <lasers`> sacarlson: I'm new to NFS/AutoFS so I may be missing out on something trivial. I don't believe it is apparmor.
[13:02] <sacarlson> lasers`: from the info you gave that was about all you needed to do as far as I know
[13:02] <diverdude> When i do sudo dpkg -i ../Downloads/mysql-workbench-gpl-5.2.38-1ubu1104-amd64.deb i get : Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-workbench-gpl. What am I doing wrong?
[13:03] <lasers`> sacarlson: Comparing both dirs. Both have same permissions and $USER:$USER. Odd. :O
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> lasers`  i guess you don't have to place dirs in /etc/exports -- it's IP addresses, I guess two dirs on the same IP address are conflicting
[13:03] <auronandace> diverdude: are you using 11.04?
[13:04] <sacarlson> lasers`: MonkeyDust: oh I think monkey is correct, I'll take a quick look at my configs
[13:05] <lasers`> MonkeyDust: Can you give me an example of sharing multiple directories on 192.168.1.0/24 ?
[13:05] <diverdude> auronandace: yes
[13:05] <auronandace> diverdude: where did you get that deb from?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> lasers`  not ATM, my own remote pc is down, but i think you're seeing it wrong -- NFS is not for sharing, it's for remote mounting
[13:07] <diverdude> auronandace: here http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench
[13:07] <sacarlson> lasers`: a line out of my /etc/exports:  /nfs-share/ubuntu/    192.168.2.0/24(no_root_squash,rw,async,no_subtree_check)
[13:08] <auronandace> diverdude: checked their forums?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> lasers`  my 11 year old student is waiting, gotta run - good luck
[13:09] <tyler_d> am I missing something... you wouldn't share things within an ip range?
[13:09] <tyler_d> lasers`: you would want to share it or mount it via an ip address.. not an ip range
[13:09] <ldlework> How do I uninstall apache?
[13:09] <ldlework> sudo aptitude remove apache2 doesn't seem to do anything
[13:09] <adhitya> tyler_d : what did you mean ?
[13:10] <sacarlson> tyler_d: an address?  how could other systems that want to pxe use it if only a single address was allowed to use it
[13:10] <ibiwor> vlt: Sorry, what?!
[13:10] <tyler_d> adhitya: might have missread that... sorry thought that was a line from fstab
[13:10] <lasers`> MonkeyDust: Okay. Thank you. From what I read, NFS is linux native and would be more suitable (less overhead) than Samba for sharing/mounting.
[13:10] <vlt> ibiwor: We want to find out whether ssh traffic arrives on the server, right? So we need a line from tcpdump running on the server that shows us a packet from somewhere to the server's port 22.
[13:11] <adhitya> tyler_d : okay
[13:11] <ibiwor> ibiwor: Yes, I'm trying that. I went to see if there is a problem for the laptop to connect to network!
[13:11] <tyler_d> vlt: tcpdump -nes0 ether host <<mac_address>> port 22
[13:11] <vlt> ibiwor: `tcpdump -i <your_device> dst host <your_server_ip> and dst port 22` should only show those.
[13:11] <sacarlson> lasers`: and I have 3 other lines in /etc/exports here is one more: /nfsroot             *(rw,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
[13:11] <lasers`> tyler_d: Local 192.168.1* home network.
[13:12] <gfc> ldlework!: whot would like to unisatll servPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatllPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatll on aPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatll on apache
[13:12] <tyler_d> catch me up here lasers` what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:12] <mpanikos_> Hello,i have a problem with my graphics card Nvidia GTS450,my ubuntu 11.10 cant recognize her  for some reason...i mean i have graphic's but when i go to system settings "ifno" at the Graphics it says "unknown" ...some help plz???
[13:12] <ldlework> gfc, uh what?
[13:12] <lasers`> tyler_d: Mounting multiple directories. One dir works. The other dir does not.
[13:12] <ibiwor> vlt: Depending on the direction of communication, the server and client in home network changes, right?
[13:13] <sacarlson> lasers: if you just put *(...)  then any address instead of a range 192.168.2.0/24(....)  can connect
[13:13] <ibiwor> vlt: So I got confused what you were referring to client and what server when ssh is being attempted from laptop to desktop
[13:13] <vlt> ibiwor: What do you mean? "changes"?
[13:13] <tyler_d> lasers`: are both dir's on the same machine?
[13:13] <lasers`> tyler_d: Yes.
[13:14] <vlt> ibiwor: I don't care whether it's a laptop or a mainframe. One machine is the ssh server you try to connect to.
[13:14] <tyler_d> lasers`: what is the error given when you try to open the non-working dir?
[13:14] <sacarlson> lasers`: pastebinit your /etc/exports for us to see if your still having problems
[13:14] <ibiwor> vlt: As far I understand, if i ssh from laptop to desktop. laptop is client and desktop server
[13:14] <Guest75156> hello
[13:14] <prodnix> Hi all, I was wundering if anyone could roughly outline how i would attach my domain name to my ubuntu box. I have a domain with go daddy and have bind9 installed on the box but how do i attach the 2, I basically want my domain name to be absolutely bound to my box? Any help would be hugely appreciated
[13:14] <vlt> ibiwor: Correct.
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> !root > Guest75156
[13:15] <ohs> what is wrong with the following command  tar -xf angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 -C
[13:15] <ohs> I get the following error tar: option requires an argument -- C
[13:15] <ohs> how should I type the command?
[13:15] <sipior> ohs: you need to provide a target directory (i.e., and argument to -C)
[13:16] <erinaceus> ohs: -C requiers a folder, check the manpages
[13:16] <vlt> prodnix: Domains are "attached" to IP addresses via DNS. Your DNS server needs to know what IP address to serve for that domain.
[13:16] <Kre10s_> I just logged in to ubuntu. my background black, and there are no desktop items. It stays like that for 20s and then the items appear and the background is set to the correct one. what could be causing this delay?
[13:16] <ohs> thank you
[13:16] <ldlework> how do you disable startup services like evolution?
[13:17] <ohs> should it be like tar -xf angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 -C /home ?
[13:17] <mpanikos_> Hello,i have a problem with my graphics card Nvidia GTS450,my ubuntu 11.10 cant recognize her  for some reason...i mean i have graphic's but when i go to system settings "ifno" at the Graphics it says "unknown" ...some help plz???
[13:17] <vlt> prodnix: Does the IP address of your Ubuntu box change sometimes?
[13:17] <lasers`> sacarlson: I only want to limit it on 192.168.1.* -- Anyway. I'm still messing around with NFS.
[13:17] <prodnix> vlt: never
[13:17] <adhitya> ohs : use syntax tar -xf <your file> -C <directory to extract>
[13:18] <ohs> adhitya: thanks
[13:18] <adhitya> ohs : okay that' s right your welcome..
[13:18] <prodnix> can I just add the IP to the name server list of my godaddy account?
[13:18] <vlt> prodnix: Then you only need to edit the static "A record" for your domain on the DNS server that handles it.
[13:19] <prodnix> vlt: does that mean i dont need bind9 on my ubuntu box?
[13:20] <vlt> prodnix: If you want to run your own DNS server (bind9) you have to tell the registrar (godaddy) that there's a new DNS server. But you usually don't need your own if DNS is included in your domain account.
[13:20] <ikonia> prodnix: you'll also need two dns servers
[13:20] <faerun> hola
[13:20] <prodnix> vlt: your making sense to me now. I think i get it, ill just have to find the a-record for my account
[13:20] <vlt> prodnix: Yes, ikonia is right (in case you want your own DNS).
[13:20] <ikonia> prodnix: I'd advise you against running a dns service unless you really have to
[13:20] <lasers`> I'm taking a shower. I'll try to solve this issue next time I get back. Thank you, tyler_d and sacarlson
[13:21] <prodnix> ikonia: thanx for the help, its makin sense now.
[13:21] <prodnix> vlt: thanx for your time, much appreciated
[13:21] <vlt> prodnix: yw
[13:22] <rileyp>  ohs:install unp sudo apt-get install unp and then use it with unp filename its that easy
[13:23] <rns> I installed the PAE kernal with 32-bit 10.04 and now I can use all 8 gigs of RAM.  Are there any downsides to using this kernal?
[13:23] <belkhouja> #ubuntu-fr
[13:24] <rileyp> ohs unp works on most zipped tarred bunzipped gunzipped 7zip rar etc files
[13:24] <ikonia> rns: not really
[13:24] <raketti> i need to get this working in screen irssi /bind paste /eval exec sh -c echo "text from pastebuffer" > /path/to/file any help?
[13:25] <ibiwor> vlt: Sorry, I think one of the systems is having difficulties maintaining connection with the network. The ping to router and server failes at times
[13:25] <esben__> Hmm why is it I can't see the list of people in this room with empathy? Probably just pushed a wrong button :p
[13:25] <rns> ikonia, how is PAE different?  It just recognizes more memory?
[13:26] <ibiwor> vlt: The ping shows connectivity for a while then after few minutes, network host unreachable then again tries to connect back. I couldn't identify it before
[13:26] <prodnix> I owe u both an extra big beer. All working perfectly. TYVM
[13:29] <Jacta_> test
[13:29] <adhitya> Jacta_: okay
[13:30] <skel> does anyone know how to change the pcspkr sound or make it louder? I'm using it to alert in irc w/screen and irssi and it's too quiet
[13:30] <Jacta_> adhitya: thanks :)
[13:30] <adhitya> Jacta_ :your welcome :)
[13:30] <tomek_> what's up ??
[13:31] <adhitya> tomek_ : nothing :)
[13:31] <ohs> does exe extensioned file work on linux?
[13:31] <LjL> ohs: no
[13:31] <ohs> thanks
[13:31] <skel> ohs: a windows binary does not work out of the box, you'll need to use something like wine to run it
[13:32] <LjL> not without an emulator (WINE) at least
[13:32] <skel> ohs: and even then it may not work
[13:32] <adhitya> ohs : it will work if you're using wine (windows emulator)
[13:32] <CharminTheMoose> ohs, with wine, yes
[13:32] <mcruz> ohs if you want to install an application wine
[13:32] <mcruz> exactly LjL
[13:32] <ohs> thank you very much
[13:32] <mcruz> ok
[13:32] <CharminTheMoose> Wine Is Not An Emulator. ;) It's a win32 compatibility layer, isn't it?
[13:33] <bazhang> !appdb | ohs check here
[13:33] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: the actual difference being what
[13:34] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, well being that it doesn't actually emulate windows, just turns windows calls into linux ones?
[13:34] <skel> CharminTheMoose: it's a binary abi
[13:34] <ohs> thank you
[13:34] <skel> I guess thats redundant, just abi
[13:34] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: and "emulating Windows" wouldn't entail the same thing?
[13:34] <LukeNukem> hello
[13:34] <mcruz> hello
[13:34] <wismi> hello
[13:34] <LukeNukem> Ubuntu wont connect to an adhoc i setup via my mobile :\
[13:34] <adhitya> LukeNukem : hello
[13:34] <LukeNukem> adhitya, hi
[13:35] <mcruz> LukeNukem you can use the network gui
[13:35] <adhitya> LukeNukem ; okay..
[13:35] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, I'd assume that the words 'emulating windows' means the entire Desktop Environment of Windows.
[13:35] <LukeNukem> adhitya, do i know you?
[13:35] <LukeNukem> mcruz, um, which is that?
[13:35] <Jacta_> tre-
[13:35] <Jacta_> tre
[13:35] <mcruz> System -> Administration-> Networks tools
[13:35] <theShadow-> hi
[13:35] <mcruz> something like that
[13:35] <adhitya> LukeNukem : yes...
[13:36] <ibiwor> vlt: I think its issue with the laptop when booted to linux 'coz windows is able to maintain connection to network...
[13:36] <LukeNukem> adhitya, i dont remember, mate.
[13:36] <mcruz> or networkmanager
[13:36] <adhitya> LukeNukem : i'm from indonesia ...
[13:36] <nlko> hey guys, im trying to speed my boot time. ive turned off most services that i do not need, and also used grub "profile" (which doesnt seem to have done much). also I have set gdm to log straight in
[13:36] <mcruz> sudo service network-manager stop
[13:36] <mcruz> sudo ip link set eth1 down
[13:36] <theShadow-> is there a channel for gnome 3?
[13:36] <nlko> my question is, can i just disable gdm all together? is there need for it?
[13:36] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc
[13:36] <LukeNukem> mcruz, GNOME 3 :\
[13:37] <mcruz> use the command line
[13:37] <ikonia> theShadow-: the gnome IRC network has a large ammount of channels, all detailed on the gnome website
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 channel 4
[13:37] <LukeNukem> adhitya, really? you sound indian
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid 'name'
[13:37] <Jacta_> tre fire fem
[13:37] <LukeNukem> your name seems indian*
[13:37] <theShadow-> ok
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 key some-key
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo ip link set eth1 up
[13:37] <adhitya> LukeNukem : yes , I'm from Indonesia ...
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo dhclient eth1
[13:37] <nlko> how can i make ubuntu boot fast?
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo ip addr add 169.254.34.2/16 dev eth1
[13:38] <LukeNukem> adhitya, thats not india
[13:38] <mcruz> LukeNukem thats in my case
[13:38] <mcruz> change values
[13:38] <adhitya> LukeNukem : you're right ... asia..
[13:38] <mcruz> ok
[13:38] <LukeNukem> adhitya, trololo much?
[13:38] <LukeNukem> mcruz, channel depending on the adhoc channel set in my mobile right?
[13:38] <adhitya> LukeNukem : what is that ?
[13:38] <wismi> well, who spoke Spanish here
[13:38] <mcruz> yes
[13:38] <theShadow-> can you make grub automatically boot, without even showing the window?
[13:39] <mcruz> wismi me
[13:39] <mcruz> why
[13:39] <LukeNukem> theShadow-, why would you do that?
[13:39] <mcruz> wismi im from Dominican Republic
[13:39] <theShadow-> because I don't need it to show every time I start linux
[13:39] <theShadow-> it just wastes time
[13:39] <adhitya> LukeNukem : I want to offline ... sorry ..
[13:39] <mcruz> wismi hold on ill be back
[13:39] <Pici> !es | wismi
[13:39] <LukeNukem> ok
[13:40] <wismi> im from spain
[13:40] <mcruz> wismi #ubuntu-es yes
[13:40] <theShadow-> and I use rEFI to switch between OSX and linux anyway
[13:40] <arek_> Kto zna kanał pomocy po polsku Proszę
[13:40] <wismi> yes
[13:40] <denNorske> Anyone who can help me configure grub 2 to automaticly boot in windows?
[13:40] <Pici> !pl | arek_
[13:40] <wismi> thanks you
[13:40] <denNorske> (dual boot)
[13:41] <arek_> dzieki i przepraszam
[13:42] <denNorske> Anyone who can help me configure grub 2 to automaticly boot in windows? (sorry for asking again, but i am in a hrry)
[13:42] <theShadow-> is there no way to to tell grub to load by holding a hotkey?
[13:43] <denNorske> hmm, no, i dont know :S i am dual-booting windows and ubuntu, and ubuntu is at top of the list, so ubuntu boots
[13:43] <denNorske> i want windows to be default
[13:43] <mcruz> denNorske chainloader +1
[13:43] <Vooloo> how can I see which one of my network cards belong to eth1?
[13:43] <mcruz> in grub config
[13:44] <denNorske> where can i find grub-config
[13:44] <denNorske> download
[13:44] <denNorske> ?
[13:44] <mathews> #ekiga
[13:44] <sipior> theShadow-: you could simply set the timeout to zero.
[13:44] <Aesthenaut> mathews:  WAT
[13:44] <denNorske> i want windows to be default, not ubuntu
[13:44] <theShadow-> it tells me no such file exists
[13:44] <MestreLion> Vooloo: ifconfig
[13:44] <theShadow-> for boot/grub/menu.1st
[13:44] <mcruz> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:45] <MestreLion> Vooloo: ifconfig (or ethtools for more detailed info, if you have it)
[13:45] <denNorske> okay, and there?
[13:45] <Kre10s> It takes gnome 1 minute and 27 seconds to get from login to a fully loaded desktop. I do not have compiz, or window manager animations... How can I debug this problem,.
[13:45] <Kre10s> How can I tell what is holding up the login process?
[13:45] <MestreLion> /boot/grub/menu.lst ??!?! Are you guys really talking about Ubuntu ?
[13:45] <denNorske> check log-files
[13:45] <denNorske> yes
[13:46] <mcruz> MestreLion yes
[13:46] <mcruz> why
[13:46] <denNorske> i am talking about ubuntu, how to change the order of grub menu, (dualboot)
[13:46] <MestreLion> because there is not /boot/grub/menu.lst in Ubuntu
[13:46] <denNorske> i want windows to be default selection
[13:46] <denNorske> ok
[13:46] <MestreLion> at least not since Lucid 10.04
[13:46] <NewWorld> Yes I heard that menu.lst is gone now
[13:46] <denNorske> i have 11.10
[13:46] <MestreLion> "now"??
[13:46] <mcruz> MestreLion you wrong so wrong
[13:46] <MestreLion> it's gone more than 2 years ago
[13:46] <NewWorld> it used to be there
[13:46] <nlko> /etc/default/grub.cfg
[13:46] <mcruz> ill use Lucid
[13:47] <MestreLion> since Lucid 10.04. Ubuntu uses grub 2, NOT grub 1
[13:47] <MestreLion> so no more menu.lst
[13:47] <rns> anyone know how the PAE kernal is different?
[13:47] <Pici> !grub2
[13:47] <mcruz> MestreLion if you use lucid you should have it
[13:48] <mcruz> look for it
[13:48] <MestreLion> oh, since 9.10 ? So... menu.lst is gone for even longer :P
[13:48] <mcruz> MestreLion yes
[13:48] <Pici> MestreLion: An upgraded install will keep the version of grub it was using though.
[13:48] <drounse> i know this isnt the place to ask, but can someone help me update BIOS with freedos
[13:48] <sipior> rns: yes, it enables PAE, in order to address more than 4GB of ram on a 32-bit platform.
[13:48] <ikonia> drounse: if you know it's not the place, please don't ask
[13:49] <MestreLion> no mcruz .. I have Lucid in my netbook and Maverick in desktop, and none have menu.lst
[13:49] <ikonia> rns: you'll be fine using it is the bottom line
[13:49] <drounse> ikonia, the people in this chat room are far more helpful than all of the others combined
[13:49] <mcruz> sorry is in boot
[13:49] <mcruz> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:49] <mcruz> look for it
[13:49] <Pici> drounse: That still doesn't make this the right place to ask.
[13:49] <ikonia> drounse: sadly, they are only helpful on the ubuntu topic
[13:49] <MestreLion> rns: PAE is a workaround so 32-bit OSes can still address more than 4GB of RAM, thus not requiring you to install a 64bit one
[13:50] <almoxarife> mcruz: wrong, no menu.lst anymore
[13:50] <ikonia> !grub2
[13:50] <rns> MestreLion, so would I be able to add more than 16 gigs of ram and have it all recognized?
[13:50] <ikonia> check that info out - it will give a good overview to grub2
[13:50] <ikonia> rns: I think PAE stops at 32bit of ram, however the more ram you add you'll start to see an overhead
[13:51] <MestreLion> rns: I don't know the limit with PAE, if it's 12, 16 or 64GB RAM... but it is more than 4 :P
[13:51] <ikonia> rns: if you are going to use more than 16GB of ram, I'd use a 64bit OS
[13:51] <rns> ikonia, what do you mean overhead?
[13:51] <ikonia> rns: the way the additional ram is addressed
[13:51] <mcruz> ikonia use PAE
[13:51] <ikonia> rns: do a bit of research on it if you are keen to use it
[13:51] <ikonia> mcruz: what ?
[13:51] <MestreLion> rns: read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[13:51] <Aesthenaut> are you going to store ubuntu there or something? whats the idea? D:
[13:52] <mcruz> kernel PAE
[13:52] <sipior> mcruz: you should probably learn to read better.
[13:52] <ikonia> mcruz: what about it ?
[13:52] <MestreLion> rns: a simple google for "PAE wikipipedia" would solve that :P
[13:52] <ikonia> rns: the wikipedia link is actually quite a good introduction
[13:52] <ikonia> I've referenced it a few times
[13:53] <mcruz> apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[13:53] <MestreLion> quoting it: "The Linux kernel includes full PAE mode support starting with version 2.3.23,[7] enabling access of up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit machines"
[13:53] <ikonia> mcruz: what areyou talking about ?
[13:53] <rns> ikonia, MestreLion thanks for the info.  Will 64 bit speed things up any faster than just using PAE?
[13:53] <ikonia> mcruz: are you actually following the conversation we are having or just throwing random things in ?
[13:53] <rns> or are there any added benefits?
[13:53] <ku> hello?
[13:53] <ikonia> rns: using large memory addresses, it will be more efficient, faster to the naked eye, nah
[13:53] <MestreLion> rns: that depends a LOT on the tasks you will use... some will REALLY benefit from 64, some won't
[13:53] <sipior> rns: PAE is a hack. if you have a 64-bit platform, use a 64-bit operating system.
[13:54] <rns> sipior, ikonia MestreLion is it possible to upgrade from 32 bit 10.04 to 64 bit without losing my data?
[13:54] <ikonia> rns: no, not upgrade, re-install yes
[13:54] <c704710> The developer of Hardcore Tactical Shooter has ask me (?for some reason?) to let Linux users know he wants their feedback.
[13:55] <rns> ikonia, reinstall implies loss of data?
[13:55] <ikonia> c704710: what ?
[13:55] <mcruz> ikonia you can reinstall and preserve all your packets
[13:55] <ikonia> rns: not if you do it right
[13:55] <rns> ikonia, what do you mean?
[13:55] <ikonia> mcruz: I know, can you please start following the conversation and READING what people are saying
[13:55] <MestreLion> sipior: it is not that simple... I have an old netbook, veeery limited hardware, Atom N450 CPU... it is  a 64-bit capable CPU... but I think it is overkill to use a 64bit OS
[13:55] <mcruz> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > pack
[13:55] <deicon> guys i have  a question
[13:55] <ikonia> rns: if you backup parts of your data, or use a seperate partition layout for important areas such as /home - you can re-install and keep your information in tact
[13:55] <sipior> MestreLion: no, it isn't overkill.
[13:55] <mcruz> then dpkg --set-selections < pack
[13:55] <mcruz> dselect install
[13:55] <ikonia> mcruz: look - stop, if you cannot follow the conversation and offer sane advice, you are not going to help
[13:56] <sipior> MestreLion: it's 2012. let's move on.
[13:56] <deicon> iam using ubuntu 10.04 and i cant make a bootable image for windows 7
[13:56] <c704710> so, http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/355932838/crowdsourced-hardcore-tactical-shooter, please proceed to feedback
[13:56] <MestreLion> sipior: 64-bit OSes use a LOT more RAM... for a desktop with 8GB, this is irrelevant... for a 1GB netbook, it is not
[13:56] <ikonia> c704710: please don't spam that sort of things in here
[13:56] <Fyodorovna> deicon, you have the ISO?
[13:56] <havard> hello
[13:56] <ikonia> c704710: it's a technical support channel only.
[13:56] <deicon> Fyodorovna: yes
[13:56] <jordan4ibanez> c704710: ubuntu-offtopic
[13:56] <sipior> MestreLion: it's 2012. let's move on.
[13:57] <Fyodorovna> deicon, from where?
[13:57] <almoxarife> rns: save your /home folder, re-install with 64bit, assuming you can, move the pertinent parts of the backed up /home to the new /home, and then enjoy the increased speed of 64bit, I was amazed how much faster it really was.
[13:57] <MestreLion> sipior: it's 2012... but my netbook is still 2010... and it is a weak hardware... with no visible benefit from  64 arch
[13:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna: i downloaded it but the iso isnt the problem i have done it before
[13:57] <c704710> ikonia sorry, what channel should I use for requesting feedback from Linux users (?spam?)?
[13:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna: idk now what i cant
[13:57] <MestreLion> sipior: for ALL other cases, i fully agree with you
[13:57] <jordan4ibanez> mestrelion then install 32 bit
[13:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna: why
[13:58] <Fyodorovna> deicon, only one legit ISO download I know of without it's idetification I can't really help.
[13:58] <jordan4ibanez> 64 bit is to utilize ram..if you dont have alot of  it..then there is nothing to utilize
[13:58] <jordan4ibanez> aka..use 32 bit
[13:58] <deicon> Fyodorovna: i use unetbootin but it doesnt work
[13:58] <Fyodorovna> *identification
[13:58] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: me and sipior are giving suggestions to rns about 32 vs 64, PAE, etc
[13:59] <compdoc> 64 bit is also a bit faster
[13:59] <jordan4ibanez> well 32 bit doesnt utilize anything ..64 bit is better when you have more memory..i have 8 gigs and i usually peak at 1 gig when playing games..64 bit stores more data in ram for faster access
[13:59] <deicon> Fyodorovna: it is legit i have the serial number when i buy it
[13:59] <MestreLion> rns: how much RAM do you have? and how modern is your system (in terms of hardware)
[13:59] <Fyodorovna> deicon, from where did you download it?
[14:00] <rns> MestreLion, dell xps 64 bit cpu with 8 gigs ram
[14:00] <c704710> oh, ok, bye
[14:00] <almoxarife> if you have 64bit capability you should use it, this is why the baby jesus created 64bit
[14:00] <deicon> Fyodorovna: from torrentz.com cauz my previous cd didnt work so ..
[14:00] <jordan4ibanez> then use 64 bit! lmfao
[14:00] <MestreLion> rns: is it a desktop system we are talking about?
[14:00] <Fyodorovna> deicon, not legit that is a torrent sorry.
[14:00] <rns> MestreLion, currently using 32-bit PAE but not sure if the upgrade to 64-bit is worth it
[14:00] <rns> MestreLion, laptop
[14:00] <jordan4ibanez> it is worth it
[14:00] <jordan4ibanez> you can run 32 bit programs in 64 bit
[14:00] <MestreLion> wow, a laptop with 8GB ?? I envy you.. :D
[14:01] <deicon> Fyodorovna: pf
[14:01] <jordan4ibanez> 8gb is not that much
[14:01] <deicon> Fyodorovna: k
[14:01] <jordan4ibanez> i know..because i have it lol..we need 32 GIGS
[14:01] <almoxarife> rns: yes, worth it
[14:01] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: but it's not usual in a laptop... at least not in Brazil
[14:02] <rns> almoxarife, what added benefit would I get?
[14:02] <jordan4ibanez> oh..well in america we have laptops with 64 gb of ram
[14:02] <MestreLion> RAM veeery is cheap nowadays... but for some reason most laptops here ship with 2, 4...
[14:02] <nujabes> where is a good place to unpackage tarballs?
[14:02] <jordan4ibanez> to the /tmp
[14:02] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: I bet those are not mainstream, average joe notebooks
[14:02] <almoxarife> rns: people have been telling you here now for a while, I have nothing more to add, do as you please :)
[14:02] <jordan4ibanez> they are
[14:03] <jordan4ibanez> they're for gaming and video processing
[14:03] <nujabes> that's just a temp folder right?
[14:04] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: gaming and video processing in a notebook? that does not feel right... I mean.. serious gaming you need huge monitors, a decent keyboard, decent mouse, high-end video card... no point in doing that in a notebook
[14:04] <jordan4ibanez> nope..its a laptop not a notebook..but look here: https://www.system76.com/desktops/model/leopard this is amazing :D
[14:05] <jordan4ibanez> & those laptops are EXPENSIVE
[14:05] <ikonia> is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[14:05] <jordan4ibanez> yes actually
[14:05] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: what is the difference between laptop and notebook? Here they are almost synonims
[14:05] <ikonia> jordan4ibanez: ok, could you get to the point in #ubuntu support please.
[14:05] <quiescens> still arguing back and forth about 32bit or 64bit
[14:06] <jordan4ibanez> laptops = less battery more power notebook= lighter and less power
[14:06] <MestreLion> nah, quiescens ... we ALL agree that, for rns , 64-bit is the way to go, period
[14:06] <MestreLion> hands down the best option for him
[14:07] <jordan4ibanez> yep
[14:07] <rns> MestreLion, still not exactly sure what added benefits I will get
[14:07] <jordan4ibanez> faster speed
[14:07] <ikonia> rns: then you'll need to do some more research
[14:07] <rns> jordan4ibanez, from cpu?
[14:07] <ikonia> rns: if you check out the PAE wiki page you'll see some of it's limitations
[14:07] <MestreLion> now THAT is a sweet box, jordan4ibanez
[14:07]  * Star_Light away
[14:08] <jordan4ibanez> cpu, ram, video to ram speed, everything (except for hard disk if its not an ssd) will be sped up
[14:08] <tyler_d> MestreLion: meh, its not bad ;)
[14:08] <jordan4ibanez> mestrelion yes i know :D
[14:09] <tyler_d> jordan4ibanez: not in love with the machine as I think mine is still over and above... however am in love with the site; tyvm for sharing :D
[14:09] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: here in Brazil there is no clear distinction between notebooks and laptops... at least not a clear definition... not to confuse with NETbooks, like Asus EeePC
[14:09] <quiT> can i instal backtrack 5 on xubuntu 11.10 by c/p sources.list ?
[14:10] <MestreLion> quiT: maybe... why don't you ask #backtrack ?
[14:10] <quiT> no one answers
[14:10] <vikey> w
[14:10] <ikonia> quiT: no, you can't
[14:10] <ikonia> quiT: #backtrack-linux will tell you how to install backtrack
[14:10] <LucidGuy> Is it possible to registar a web ssl cert with a common name containing a wildcard?  *.domainname.com?
[14:11] <ikonia> LucidGuy: you need a wild card certficiate, very expensive
[14:11] <MestreLion> quiT:  maybe #xubuntu will be able to...
[14:11] <ikonia> MestreLion: no
[14:11] <LucidGuy> ikonia, hmm .. never new that existed.
[14:11] <ikonia> LucidGuy: $$
[14:11] <LucidGuy> ikonia, sounds dangerous
[14:11] <MestreLion> ikonia: sorry...
[14:12] <quiT> ok tnx to all ill try
[14:12] <MestreLion> LucidGuy: as in *.mywebsite.com ?
[14:12] <karthick87> Network connections were not starting automatically on every reboot. After starting it manually it is working fine
[14:13] <LucidGuy> MestreLion, yes .. a single wildcard for all hosts/sites of a domain.
[14:13] <tyler_d> karthick87: did it show as eth0 down? how did you make this determination?>
[14:13] <MestreLion> LucidGuy: as ikonia said, it's only dangerous to your pockets :P
[14:13] <LucidGuy> ikonia, MestreLion   RapidSSL has wildcart SSL certs for $199.
[14:14] <nujabes> what directory should i install a program in?
[14:14] <ikonia> LucidGuy: look at the protection level before buying, but this really isn't an ubuntu issue
[14:14] <MestreLion> looks like you already know the answer then...
[14:14] <ikonia> nujabes: the installer puts them in the right place for you
[14:14] <LucidGuy> ikonia, I know .. i just find many tek savvy individuals in here ...
[14:14] <almoxarife> spam
[14:14] <nujabes> iknoia, i'm using tarballs
[14:14] <Vooloo> I run chrome, and it says it should already have adobe flash installed, but visiting youtube it says its not. is this an exception for the linux version and I need to install manually anyway?
[14:14] <ikonia> nujabes: then you configure it where ever you want - I'd strongly advise you not to use a tarball install unless you %101 have to
[14:15] <ikonia> nujabes: what are you trying to install ?
[14:15] <ohs> my ubuntu goes to a black screen if there is no activity for 5 min or so, then I need to type my password to activate it again. how can I disable this option?
[14:15] <nujabes> iknoia, latest version of eclipse
[14:15] <jordan4ibanez> in the screensaver menu
[14:15] <MestreLion> nujabes: until you are more experienced with Ubuntu and Linux in general, we *strongly* recocmend you to stick with Software Center / PPAs / .debs. Do NOT install software otherwise, unless you really know what you're doing
[14:16] <sipior> nujabes: /usr/local is the canonical location for this sort of thing (/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib &cet.)
[14:16] <nujabes> MestreLion, I'm using 10.10 and my repo doesn't have the latest version of eclipse
[14:16] <nujabes> sipior, thanks
[14:16] <MestreLion> nujabes: Eclipse is not a tarball... meaning it does not need to configure, build or install. It is a self-contained app
[14:17] <MestreLion> nujabes: you can extract to your home folder if you want to...
[14:17] <Error4o4> Hi, would it be safe to install KDE Plasma desktop beside the default ones, unity, gnome?
[14:17] <Xabster> What's a good quick-start thingy? I mean one that you get up by pressing eg. Super+space and lets you search for applications fast
[14:17] <Xabster> i guess it's a launch bar
[14:17] <Xabster> or what you could call it ...
[14:18] <nujabes> MestreLion, lol okay sry about my miss-use of the term "tarball"
[14:18] <karthick87> tyler_d: eth0 was up. But i was not able to ping any ip addresses.
[14:19] <rye> hello, anybody knows for sure whether suspending the laptop calls fsync/fdatasync on the filesystems?
[14:19] <MestreLion> nujabes: no problem, it is very common. "tarballs" are formally just like any other zip files. But, in Linux context, it usually means "source code that you configure, build and install"
[14:19] <m1chael> im trying to burn MPG movies to DVD. i've been getting a horrible skipping problem with NTSC, but if I create the DVD with PAL formatting, it seems to work fine.. anyone have any experience with this?
[14:20] <MestreLion> m1chael: what software are you using?
[14:20] <m1chael> ffmpeg, dvdauthor, and growisofs
[14:21] <quiescens> rye: i would have to guess it does unless someone dropped the ball
[14:21] <MestreLion> m1chael: have you tried reading their FAQs to know if this is a known / common issue?
[14:21] <m1chael> yes, not much info exists in terms of skipping
[14:22] <MestreLion> m1chael: because this sounds a lot like an app-especific issue
[14:23] <sipior> rye: interesting question. i believe the answer is no, based, for example, on this thread: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/817326
[14:23] <sipior> rye: you could conduct a little experiment with strace/ltrace, if you're so inclined :-)
[14:24] <Vooloo> how do I get git 1.7.1 in 10.04?
[14:24] <MestreLion> Vooloo: same way as any other "backport": look for an existing PPA, or compile it yourself
[14:25] <MestreLion> Vooloo: but.. why 1.7.1 ? git is already at 1.7.10
[14:25] <Vooloo> MestreLion: smartgit wants it
[14:25] <MestreLion> ... and smartgit is ?
[14:25] <sipior> rye: ah no, i'm being stupid. that thread references a power loss, not a suspend. still, an experiment would be interesting.
[14:26] <Vooloo> 1.7.1+ that is.. the one in ubuntu is 1.7.0.4 ... smartgit is a GUI
[14:27] <MestreLion> Vooloo: smartgit is not in the repos
[14:27] <nujabes> MestreLion, hey i put eclipse in my /home, but the terminal wont take the command "eclipse" so idk how to make a launcher
[14:28] <MestreLion> nujabes: you must either provide the full path to the launcher, OR copy / symlink the executable to somewhere in your $PATH
[14:29] <c3sso> hello
[14:29] <c3sso> I have a problem with /etc/sudoers
[14:29] <MestreLion> nujabes: where is the eclipse executable located?
[14:29] <c3sso> can somebody help?
[14:29] <LukeNukem> um
[14:29] <LukeNukem> spanish speaking guy
[14:29] <MestreLion> c3sso: just say the problem...
[14:29] <LukeNukem> you there? forget your name
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: #ubuntu+1 please.
[14:30] <nujabes> MestreLion, here the path /home/jon/bin/eclipse
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: that is where 12.04 support is
[14:30] <nujabes> i creat a bin folder
[14:30] <LukeNukem> mcruz quit?
[14:30] <MestreLion> /home/jon/bin/eclipse , you sure? or /home/jon/eclipse/bin/ ?
[14:30] <c3sso> just was there
[14:30] <c3sso> nobody seemed to know...
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: I know, so you need to wait for an answer, or log a bug
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: this channel doesn't support the beta products
[14:31] <LukeNukem> ikonia, mate can you tell me how to connect to adhoc network via terminal
[14:31] <coraxx> when I run "wine" in ubuntu 11.10 .... and move the mouse inside the desktop-window, wine freezes!! ... does n e body know why ? ...and how to fix?
[14:31] <c3sso> right if it was a bug, I
[14:31] <nujabes> MestreLion, well its really /home/jon/bin/eclipse/eclipse . I ran it by point and click
[14:31] <ikonia> LukeNukem: iwconfig
[14:31] <c3sso> I just thought maybe I am to dumb
[14:31] <MestreLion> nujabes: did it work ?
[14:31] <ikonia> c3sso: then wait in #ubuntu+1 for someone to work it through with you
[14:31] <MrHeat> Hi folks, quick question... i changed my kernel to virtual one... how to check if grub is correctly configured?
[14:31] <c3sso> well, ok
[14:32] <nujabes> MestreLion, yeah i'm just trying to crate a launcher
[14:32] <fanshouxiang> hi
[14:32] <nujabes> hate to have to go in there just to run it lol
[14:33] <fanshouxiang> #
[14:33] <MestreLion> nujabes: choosing your ~/bin folder to extract eclipse is not a good idea... you see, ~/bin is kind of a "special" folder... all executables you place there can be invoked directly via terminal, no need to use full path
[14:33] <Xabster> I installed the Cairo Dock and now the process-bar or task-bar or whatever it's called in GNOME is in the way - how do I remove it and/or what is it called?
[14:33] <dedywidya> hi
[14:34] <MestreLion> nujabes: on the other hand, it is a PERFECT place for you to copy (or better, symlink) the eclipse executable so you can launch eclipse by simply typing... "eclipse" :D
[14:34] <nujabes> MestreLion, well i made the bin folder in my home folder. is that a problem?
[14:35] <MestreLion> nujabes: no, not at all... actually, i would suggest you to do so
[14:35] <derek2> derek:  hello
[14:35] <MestreLion> nujabes: but don't extract the eclipse folder there
[14:35] <hans_> #oesterreich
[14:35] <MestreLion> nujabes: leave that dir to place only executables
[14:35] <derek> derek2: hello2
[14:36] <hans_> hi
[14:37] <MestreLion> nujabes: so, my suggestion? extract eclipse to ~/opt instead (meaning /home/jon/opt/eclipse), and then symlink the executable from there to ~/bin . Use this command: ln -s ~/opt/eclipse/eclipse ~/bin
[14:38] <nujabes> MestreLion, what's symlink?
[14:38] <MestreLion> nujabes: this way you will have the best of all worlds: your Eclipse install will be self-contained at /home/jon/opt/eclipse , you can use /home/jon/opt for other self-contained software you install in the future, AND you will be able to launch eclipse just typing eclipse, no need to give the full path
[14:39] <MestreLion> nujabes: symlink are... err.. man...
[14:39] <Pici> nujabes: they're *like* shortcuts
[14:39] <MestreLion> nujabes: think of them as "shortcuts" ...
[14:40] <nujabes> MestreLion, this sounds great thanks, i'll let you know if it work
[14:40] <MestreLion> but, unlike the .lnk files in Windows, symlinks are REAL shortcuts... they are "understood" anywhere in the OS... not only desktop, but terminal, inside software, etc
[14:41] <MestreLion> nujabes: so, for all intents and purposes, ~/bin/elipse will be the SAME as ~/opt/eclipse/eclipse
[14:41] <nujabes> MestreLion, lol i want to ask if they were like shortcut but i have making window references  on here
[14:42] <nujabes> MestreLion, oh i fallow ya
[14:42] <MestreLion> nujabes: if the references help, there is no problem. But... symlinks are MUCH better than window's shortcuts... much more powerful... you should really google about it... or read at wikipedia
[14:43] <meowsus> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell. Sometimes randomly my left mouse button stops working and so does my keyboard. I can't get into the application dock (by moving my cursor to the top-left of the screen) but I can still move it and right click. Anyone have a similar problem or want to help me troubleshoot?
[14:43] <[Si]> MestreLion Windows supports Symbolic links too, mklink blah.txt c:\temp\blah.txt
[14:43] <nujabes> MestreLion, so do i have to make opt folder?
[14:43] <MestreLion> nujabes: and they are present for decades in Linux/Unix world, and heavily used
[14:43] <diverdude> When i try to run: sudo curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sh i get the error: Please try running this command again as root/Administrator. But I have already put sudo in front???
[14:44] <MestreLion> [Si]: humm, but that is a relatively recent NTFS feature... only on Vista onwards... and they have some serious restrictions
[14:44] <nujabes> MestreLion, just saved symbolic link wikipedia page, gona read it after this
[14:44] <Pici> diverdude: sudo does not pass across IO redirection operators.
[14:44] <nujabes> :)
[14:44] <MestreLion> [Si]: pre-vista, the best you could have are "junctions", with are dir-only symlinks... and only to the same filesystem
[14:44] <meowsus> diverdude, you might need it again after the pipe
[14:45] <[Si]> MestreLion this is 2012 ;) who uses vista
[14:45] <Pici> diverdude: so: curl whatever | sudo sh    would work (although you you should be aware that this might potentially be dangerous, running unknown scripts etc)
[14:45] <meowsus> diverdude, Pici is right
[14:45] <MestreLion> nujabes: yes, create the ~/opt folder... for now, you will only have eclipse... but in the future, might be useful for other self-contained apps you might choose to install
[14:45] <[Si]> diverdude ans pici says download the script first, look at it in an editor and check it's not doing anything horrid.
[14:46] <MestreLion> [Si]: this is 2012... which Windows users know what is mklink or junctions ?
[14:46] <mgaunard_> I'm looking for gcc 4.7 packages for ubuntu 11.10
[14:46] <mgaunard_> how come I can't find any?
[14:47] <nujabes> MestreLion, okay ~/opt made and ready. now i put ~/opt/eclipse ?
[14:47] <MestreLion> nujabes: also, make SURE eclipse's executable is really at ./eclipse/eclipse (are you sure it is not ./eclipse/bin/eclipse ?)
[14:47] <[Si]> MestreLion true true, Linux is where it's at :)
[14:48] <here4thegear> I'm running ubuntu in a virtual machine as a test/web env... I have a symlink connected to /media/sf_www and that is owned by root:vboxsf... When I try to go to my website in my environment (which I've easily done before doing this symlink) I get "forbidden"... Is there any issue with chowning /media/sf_www to www-data:www-data?
[14:48] <nujabes> MestreLion, yep there's no bin folder is side
[14:48] <meowsus> So I guess no one wants to help me troubleshoot why my left mouse button and keyboard become unresponsive sometimes...
[14:48] <MestreLion> meowsus: or maybe no one knows *how* to help you
[14:48] <Zaitzev> if I want to completely remove/uninstall a program, with all its configurations, dependencies and other files that will no longer be in use, what do I do?
[14:48] <meowsus> MestreLion, MAYbe everyone hates me!
[14:49]  * meowsus cries millions of tears
[14:49] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, what release are you using?
[14:49] <meowsus> 11.10
[14:49] <meowsus> with gnome-shell
[14:49] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: 2 things: sudo apt-get purge <package> , and also delete the package's config dir in your home folder (if any)
[14:49] <meowsus> I realize that my keyboard doesn't actually become unresponsive, because i can still hit Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down to switch screens.
[14:50] <nujabes> MestreLion, okay step two. how do i crate symlink?
[14:50] <meowsus> But I can't hit the super key or go to the top left of the screen to access the gnome-shell dock. Makes me think that this is a gnome-shell bug...
[14:50] <here4thegear> better yet, is there a way to open a file to view by any and everybody?
[14:50] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, I see it on occasion with the development rarely with 11.10, but in the gnome-shell as that's what I default to now, not sure why it hapens though.
[14:50] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: your user prefs are are usually located at ~/.package or ~/.config/package
[14:50] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: So purge will uninstall and remove every association with the program? And then a manual delete of the config-dir afterwards?
[14:50] <meowsus> Fyodorovna, how do you get around it?
[14:51] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: What if said program has dependencies also used by other programs, will they also be removed or remain?
[14:51] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: purge will delete the software and all *system-wise*  configuration. But it's up to you to delete the *personal* configuration
[14:51] <Zaitzev> I understand
[14:52] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, I have a conky so I look to see if the cpu and or the gpu are maxed. In the development I have has to reisub softshutdown with 11.10 it seems to resolve after a short time, but rarely happens in 11.10.
[14:52] <Fyodorovna> s/has=had
[14:52] <Zaitzev> Mestre: The thing is, yesterday I installed lubuntu-desktop, and it was a ~400 MB download (a lot of extra stuff I assume), and the login screen has changed to Lubuntu. And I don't like it.
[14:52] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: and dependencies will not be removed, UNLESS they A) were installed *because* of that package and B) no other package depends on it
[14:53] <[Si]> here4thegear have you got "Options FollowSymLinks" in your apache config?
[14:53] <nujabes> MestreLion, thanks I made the smylink with the command you gave
[14:53] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: use TAB to autocomplete my name... without highlight, I might miss your lines
[14:53] <sdd> hi
[14:53] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: I know, I thought I had autocomplete on, wanted to test ;)
[14:53] <sdd> need help
[14:53] <sdd> pleaaseeeee
[14:54] <sdd> where help
[14:54] <bazhang> sdd, ask a question then
[14:54] <here4thegear> [Si]: will check... is that different than having it in virtualhost file in apache2/sites-available/default
[14:54] <sdd> ok
[14:54] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: What I really want to do is sort of clean up the system, remove crap I never ever use, without affecting system stability
[14:54] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: you can change the default session before you login. Don't like LXDE? Just log in in Unity, don't need to remove LXDE
[14:54] <sdd> my question is
[14:54] <TheRedOctober> Hi all. I have an 11.04 desktop that is using 3GB of swap, but the chrome, the highest mem usage process, is using only about 500MB. What gives? this machine is doing nothing, vm.swappiness=0, but swap usage is through the roof. mem leak somewhere I cannot find?
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> hi there
[14:54] <sdd> is sb here who can help me
[14:54] <sdd> my question is
[14:54] <bazhang> sdd, ask your question all on one line
[14:54] <sdd> ok
[14:55] <caf4926> sdd: heavens sake man
[14:55] <sdd> my question is who can help me
[14:55] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: Oh, I'm logging into Ubuntu Unity, but the login screen used to be the Ubuntu one, now it's Lubuntu. And I have to type in both username and password now..annoying to say the least.
[14:55] <bemasc> How can I add my university's (unofficial) mirror to the list of available package mirrors?
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> I discovered that there is xchat in the software center and thus I installed it, and freenode here was preset with port 8001, is that OK or should I switch it back to 6667?
[14:55] <bazhang> sdd, thats not an actual ubuntu support question
[14:55] <sdd> ah okkay
[14:55] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: delete the same package you installed... all the other packages that were installed as dependencies will be automatically removed too if no other package depends on it
[14:55] <abhinavmehta> I want to read and store every script pasted over pastebin.com, how can I do that..?
[14:55] <[Si]> here4thegear if you want apache to follow your symbolic links you'll need that in the Dirconfig for your site.
[14:55] <sdd> then my question is
[14:55] <bazhang> Lunar_Lander, for use with ssl?
[14:55] <Zaitzev> bemasc: /etc/apt/sources.list I assume
[14:55] <sdd> who is there to support me
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> bazhang, just for normal operation
[14:55] <sdd> i am using linux
[14:56] <bazhang> sdd, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <shomon> hi, I'm trying to burn an iso to a usb key - do I just do write to disk?
[14:56] <bazhang> sdd actual support questions here
[14:56] <sdd> i am using in ubuntu
[14:56] <bazhang> shomon, use unetbootin for that
[14:56] <shomon> thanks
[14:56] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: Yeah that sounds logical. Is there a way to see WHAT the package did install? In case I want to keep a couple of things (or reinstall separately)
[14:56] <sdd> 11.94 i use
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> bazhang, as I said FreeNode was in the server list already and had that port as well
[14:56] <adom> hi all
[14:56] <here4thegear> [Si]: yeah, in it's on for all directories in my virtual host file
[14:56] <bazhang> sdd and you have yet to ask a question, so please stop the nonsense
[14:56] <adom> got a 4GB USB flash drive that's giving me errors when I try to reformat it. "Read-Only filesystem" I don't need to keep the data on it, just want to reformat it for normal everyday use. what should my next step be?
[14:56] <bemasc> Zaitzev: That's not quite what I mean.  Synaptic offers a long list of mirrors.  I want to add one to that list.  I've been grep'ing my hard drive but I can't figure out where the list is stored.
[14:56] <Vooloo> I run chrome, and it says it should already have adobe flash installed, but visiting youtube it says its not. is this an exception for the linux version and I need to install manually anyway?
[14:56] <sdd> i use 11.94
[14:56] <waxstone> efq;neoprigoogle.comgoogle.com
[14:56] <philinux> shomon: Is that an ubuntu iso?
[14:57] <sdd> ok
[14:57] <newbiedelznufus> hello, Im running ubuntu 11.10 (oneric oscelot unity) should I upgrade to the 12.04 beta? advantages? disadvantages? any input is appreciated :]
[14:57] <[Si]> here4thegear check the error log file /var/log/apache2/error.log it should give you more idea of what's causing the 403 error.
[14:57] <sdd> i use ubuntu  11.94
[14:57] <meowsus> Fyodorovna, yeah, I've noticed it only twice, but I was curioius. I gotta get conky back on this machine. Thanks so much!
[14:57] <caf4926> sdd: you mean 11.04
[14:57] <bazhang> newbiedelznufus, wait for release
[14:58] <bazhang> sdd there is no such version
[14:58] <newbiedelznufus> ok thanks
[14:58] <sdd> no@i mean 11.94
[14:58] <sdd> or 11.10
[14:58] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: humm, good question... I'm sure there is , but I don't know how. You might check Synaptic or Aptitude for that. I know where you can see the dependencies list of a given package, but that will only tell you what the package requires, not what was actually pulled (because you may had already installed one of the depencies)
[14:58] <caf4926> sdd: how old are you
[14:58] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, no problem hope you get it resolved. :)
[14:58] <nujabes> MestreLion, it didn't work in the terminal :( , but the smylink works :)
[14:58] <sdd> ?
[14:58] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Have a look here> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412
[14:58] <sdd> ok 11.10
[14:58] <sdd> it is
[14:59] <MestreLion> nujabes: the symlink works? great! now log out and back in... and the terminal will work ;)
[14:59] <bazhang> !enter | sdd
[14:59] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Or have a chat in #ubuntu+1
[14:59] <here4thegear> [Si]: hah, it says Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible... where else do I need to turn that on other than in the <virtualhost>... maybe php.ini?
[14:59] <newbiedelznufus> thanks philinux
[14:59] <sdd> ok well i wanthave gnome2
[14:59] <sdd> in 11.10
[14:59] <newbiedelznufus> im pretty much a begginer, couple more questions. :]
[14:59] <nujabes> MestreLion, yeah!!! thanks
[14:59] <bazhang> !notunity | sdd
[14:59] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: I think I read somewhere that you can look at synaptic history or something like that. It's not that important, really. Thanks for your help! :)
[15:00] <sdd> noooooooo gnome2
[15:00] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: for the dependencies list, right-click a package in Synaptic, or use apt-cache show <package>
[15:00] <Myrtti> sdd: you can't. If you want something like it, try gnome fallback mode, or Xubuntu.
[15:00] <philinux> sdd: >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859961
[15:00] <bazhang> sdd there is no gnome2. its gone.
[15:00] <[Si]> here4thegear does the target have permissions read permissions for www-data?
[15:00] <sdd> shit
[15:00] <Fyodorovna> sdd, there is a gnome classic similar to gnome 2 in the gnome-shell install
[15:00] <sdd> why gone
[15:00] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: "show" parameter huh, gotta remember that one. Might be really useful.
[15:00] <bazhang> sdd no cursing
[15:00] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: yes... File > History
[15:00] <sdd> i hate
[15:00] <sdd> th
[15:01] <FloodBot1> sdd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <newbiedelznufus> Anyone use "cairo dock"?  Does open gl w/animation slow the cpu down a lot?
[15:01] <sdd> ok but no gnome2
[15:01] <Fyodorovna> sdd, exactly
[15:01] <sdd> i loved it...
[15:01] <caf4926> sdd: it's gone!!
[15:01] <Myrtti> sdd: it's not developed by the Gnome project developers and it's not supported by them either, no security updates. They've moved to Gnome3
[15:01] <sdd> now only this shit ubu
[15:01] <nujabes> MestreLion, worked and youre awesome
[15:01] <sdd> unity
[15:01] <bazhang> !ot | sdd
[15:01] <philinux> sdd:  or you can have this > http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/use-classic-menu-in-unity-classicmenu.html
[15:01] <Myrtti> sdd: mind the language, or you will be removed again
[15:01] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: but neither show nor history is exactly what you want..
[15:01] <Hexadron> Hi
[15:01] <Fyodorovna> !language | sdd
[15:02] <sdd> ok
[15:02] <TheRedOctober> Anyone? memory usage 11%, swap usage 100%, no real reason, my top looks like this http://pastebin.com/uNmGXHic . Why is xorg using 1GB of swap? Why is everything using swap and no RAM?
[15:02] <bittin> Hi
[15:02] <MestreLion> nujabes: glad to know :D
[15:02] <Myrtti> bittin: hello
[15:02] <Hexadron> Do you speak czech?
[15:02] <sdd> i am depressed
[15:02] <MestreLion> one more happy customer... I should get a raise :P
[15:02] <bazhang> Hexadron, #ubuntu-cz for that
[15:02] <bittin> yo Myrtti
[15:02] <sdd> some other distro which supports gnome2
[15:02] <bittin> Hexadron: no
[15:02] <TheRedOctober> sdd: debian 6
[15:02] <ikonia> sdd: 10.04 supports gnome2
[15:02] <here4thegear> [Si]: no. and that's the problem... I can't chown the target folder because it's owned by root:vboxsf and vbox won't let me chown it... so how can I go about giving apache the ability to rw to items owned by root:vboxsf ?
[15:02] <Hexadron> Very thanks bazhang
[15:02] <newbiedelznufus> also whats the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d at login?
[15:02] <bazhang> sdd thats offtopic here. lets move on
[15:03] <sdd> ok
[15:03] <sdd> can i report a bug
[15:03] <sdd> in launchpad?
[15:03] <Myrtti> sdd: they all are moving to Gnome3 apart from some fringe distros that are trying to keep on developing it with a new team
[15:03] <bazhang> newbiedelznufus, one is less resource intensive
[15:03] <Myrtti> sdd: about what?
[15:03] <TheRedOctober> sdd: that would be where you do it.
[15:03] <MestreLion> sdd: Linux Mint supports MATE, which is a gnome2 fork...
[15:03] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Unity is the 3d version using compiz
[15:03] <sdd> about unity
[15:03] <LMX> which file should be edited for gnome panel properties/launcher properties? can anyone please help?
[15:03] <ikonia> sdd: if you find a bug with it, sure
[15:03] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Sorry meant the ubuntu option is ^^
[15:04] <sdd> i already found. it is called unity
[15:04] <AndyUbuntu> afternoon everyone
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> i assume ubuntu 2d is the less resource intensive choice?
[15:04] <Vooloo> is it possible to get nautilus to search contents of PDF files?
[15:04] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Correct
[15:04] <[Si]> here4thegear that's a share from the virtual box host? I think you'd be better off using NFS or CIFS to share the folder *from* the web server to your other PCs
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> great. (ollllld pc)
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> but ubuntu runs great
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> thanks guys
[15:04] <MestreLion> nice move ikonia
[15:05] <gwidion_> moin!
[15:05] <AndyUbuntu> im just using gnome shell on ubuntu 11.10 and its says that all of my extensions are not compatible with this version of gnome shell. does anyone know why this could be?
[15:05] <here4thegear> [Si]: I will try it that way... thanks, good suggestion
[15:05] <caf4926> *thinks there as some complete plokers about today and need kicking
[15:05] <AndyUbuntu> I have the default theme installed and am not able to change it
[15:05] <dekuked> hey does ubuntu support the new open source ontario drivers?
[15:05] <gwidion_> I am about to buy a new desktop computer, and I'd like to know how is the support for video on newer chipsets -
[15:06] <caf4926> gwidion_: take a live cd to the store and ask if you can boot it
[15:06] <gwidion_> how is (k)ubuntu 11.10 and the rpeleases of 12.04 working with intel Z68  motherboars and integated graphics
[15:06] <gwidion_> caf4926: I intend to have it custom built- it is better for upper range machinnes where I live.
[15:07] <[Si]> here4thegear if it's windows that you want to share to this will open it to everyone on your network "sudo apt-get install samba" then "net usershare add wwwstffs /path/to/wwwstuffs Everyone:f guest_ok=y"
[15:07] <caf4926> gwidion_: most integrated work well
[15:07] <gwidion_> I could not find any web references to either ubuntu, or jst the kernel working with the z68 chipset.
[15:07] <gwidion_> caf4926: Any idea if the 3D support is ok?
[15:07] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know why it would say the gnome shell extensions are not compatible?
[15:07] <gwidion_> (it woudl use intel's sandy bridge CPU.
[15:08] <ubuntu> Hi, I am try having issues with both operating system on my hard disk. Things I have done are a MEM test to rule that out. And now I am on a live disc trying to do a filesystem check on /dev/sda but always says it is busy
[15:08] <compdoc> I have a z68, but not running Ubuntu
[15:08] <mneptok> gwidion_: in general, Intel graphics have better Linux mainline kernel support than other vendors. but stuff takes time to get merged, and Ubuntu draws from stable kernel source, so stuff that less than 6 months old may not have landed in Ubuntu yet.
[15:08] <compdoc> ubuntu, open the Disk Util and look at the SMART data
[15:08] <MestreLion> nice move ikonia
[15:09] <gwidion_> compdoc: nice to know - my main interest is to know if I can have acelerated 3d video in a recent linux distro
[15:09] <ubuntu> compdoc: the drive is not mounted either.
[15:09] <compdoc> ubuntu, dont need to mount it to look at SMART
[15:09] <gwidion_> mneptok: It is about 1 year old now. Is tehre a place (changelog on the web, etc) where I could check for that?
[15:10] <ubuntu> compdoc: and the live disc is kde flavor
[15:10] <ubuntu> compdoc: so command line would be better
[15:11] <compdoc> there isnt a kde disk util? then the command:   sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[15:11] <compdoc> or whatever drive
[15:11] <mneptok> gwidion_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=z68+intel+linux
[15:12] <shomon> what is the best way to get unetbootin? I downloaded it from sourceforge but still trying to get this executable to work
[15:12] <zlatkojov> Q: I have Line6 guitar port (external sound card). I have installed line6 usb linux driver - properly. Card works when plugged in after Ubuntu 11.10 started. However Line6 connected before copmuter startup causes kernel panic. Any ideas?
[15:12] <shomon> maybe best via apt?
[15:12] <bazhang> shomon, are you on ubuntu now? it's in the repos
[15:12] <MestreLion> ubuntu: you say the disk is always busy when you try filesystem tools? Then open a terminal and type "mount" and paste the results here... it should give some clues *where* it is mounted to
[15:12] <shomon> yes - ah will try
[15:12] <AndyUbuntu> ok does anyone know a good repository for gnome shell extensions?
[15:12] <ikonia> zlatkojov: I suspect it's a bug with that module, just plug it in after the machine boots
[15:13] <shomon> sorry should have tias
[15:13] <ubuntu> MestreLion: it is not mounted
[15:13] <ikonia> zlatkojov: as I recall on this line6 provide it as a closed source drop in module
[15:13] <melvincv> Any way to run Stronghold Kingdoms on Ubuntu? I've tried wine, no luck, steam is fine but stronghold keeps crashing and restarting...
[15:13] <MestreLion> ubuntu: and who says it's "busy" ?
[15:13] <zlatkojov> Ikonia: Oh my God! Would I have to plug in/out on every startup!?
[15:13] <ikonia> melvincv: please don't cross post
[15:13] <ikonia> zlatkojov: it'a usb card isnt it ?
[15:14] <zlatkojov> yes it is
[15:14] <Xabster> Does Ubuntu 11.10 come with an FTP-server? If not, can you recommend one?
[15:14] <compdoc> melvincv,  Stronghold Kingdoms is a Windows game?
[15:14] <ikonia> zlatkojov: not excatly a massive issue to just unplug/plug in
[15:14] <MestreLion> melvincv: try to see if there are any wine custom settings for that game in #wine-hq , or PlayOnLinux
[15:15] <c3sso> how can I add annother sorting category to the file-open dialog
[15:15] <c3sso> ?
[15:15] <melvincv> ikonia, you mean in many channels at once?
[15:15] <[Si]> there's an open source driver here http://sourceforge.net/projects/line6linux/
[15:15] <melvincv> Compdoc, yes
[15:16] <zlatkojov> ikonia: thanks - at least we clarified the problem. I check with Markus (person who wrote driver) is there any way to fix this bug...
[15:16] <MestreLion> Xabster: there are many in the repos. Try FileZilla
[15:16] <Xabster> I got filezilla, but that's the client I think
[15:16] <melvincv> MestreLion, thanks. I'll try that.
[15:16] <Pici> MestreLion, Xabster: Filezilla does not have a ftp server for Linux, only a client.
[15:16] <compdoc> melvincv, for the best windows graphics on linux, your best bet is Virtualbox
[15:16] <Xabster> Yeah, thanks
[15:17] <Xabster> I need a server :)
[15:17] <mneptok> Xabster: why FTP?
[15:17] <Xabster> What do you suggest?
[15:17] <mneptok> (here we go again)
[15:17] <mneptok> SFTP
[15:17] <mneptok> Xabster: will every user you expect to connect via FTP also have a Unix account on the system?
[15:17] <deicon> guys how can i mount a usb drive
[15:17] <melvincv> he he, that game crashed on XP SP3 on Virtualbox too.
[15:18] <MestreLion> Xabster: there is vsftpd
[15:18] <Xabster> mneptok, no, none of them will
[15:18] <mneptok> Xabster: so you'll have anonymous access and such.
[15:18] <MestreLion> deicon: usually, just plugging it in
[15:18] <Xabster> I plan on making a simple 1-user account setup and give it to those who need it, mneptok
[15:19] <Xabster> I dislike the anonymous way
[15:19] <deicon> MestreLion: doesnt work
[15:19] <mneptok> Xabster: oh, then SFTP is the way to go.
[15:19] <mneptok> Xabster: PM?
[15:19] <Xabster> sure
[15:20] <melvincv> compdoc, it gives me a directx error. I have  Intel G33 chipset on the host system.
[15:20] <MestreLion> deicon: what kind of usb drive?
[15:20] <deicon> MestreLion: toshiba usb 2.0
[15:21] <MestreLion> deicon: just to rule out hardware issues: have you tested in another OS / System ?
[15:21] <deicon> MestreLion: yes and worked fine
[15:22] <shaneo> anyone in here play uplink if so how do i get it to re-install to my system the ppa gives me a 404 error everytime
[15:22] <MestreLion> was it the same machine?
[15:22] <deicon> MestreLion: yes
[15:23] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know where i can get the latest versions of gnome shell extensions?
[15:23] <AndyUbuntu> much appreciated
[15:23] <samsamsupersam> is there a way to use the mouse as a joystick? i want to play xwing vs tie fighter, but no joystick
[15:23] <MestreLion> deicon: install pastebinit package, and then please run dmesg | grep usb | pastebinit
[15:23] <dlentz> shaneo, check /var/cache/apt/archives, the package may still be there
[15:23] <MestreLion> post the URL here
[15:24] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
[15:24] <AndyUbuntu> thanks shaneo
[15:24] <shaneo> np
[15:25] <deicon> MestreLion:  you mean dmesg | tail -n 16 ?
[15:25] <ubuntu> Mech0z: that was strange computer rebooted while on live disc too
[15:25] <shaneo> dlentz, no its not there
[15:25] <melvincv> Oh, I guess the trouble with graphics card access for Virtualbox is my CPU does not support Intel VT. No chance of h/w direct access without that, right?
[15:25] <Mech0z> ubuntu ?
[15:25] <Mech0z> think you miss typed
[15:26] <MestreLion> deicon: tail -n 16 is not enough
[15:26] <ubuntu> Mech0z: was nt I talking to you before?
[15:26] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, this was the reop i was using beofe, it keeps saying that versions are not compatible :S
[15:26] <ubuntu> maybe it was MestreLion
[15:26] <Mech0z> ubuntu nope I havent used IRC today
[15:26] <ubuntu> ok
[15:26] <MestreLion> deicon: it will only show the last 16 event lines... which may or may not be related to your usb drive...
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> have you come across this before/
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> ?
[15:27] <deicon> MestreLion:  but i didnt get nothing from this
[15:27] <ubuntu> how so I output dmesg directly to a pastebin page?
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> im sure they are all up to date
[15:27] <MestreLion> deicon: dmesg | grep usb does not show anything at al?!?!
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> just dont know why I am not able to use them
[15:28] <MestreLion> ubuntu: installing the pastebinit package and then piping any ommand output to it
[15:28] <deicon> MestreLion:  no
[15:28] <bemasc> Zaitzev: used grep; turns out the answer is "/usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors"
[15:28] <ubuntu> MestreLion: so dmesg | pastebinit
[15:28] <deicon> ap
[15:28] <deicon> MestreLion:  wrong
[15:29] <deicon> MestreLion: i ll give you the link
[15:29] <MestreLion> ubuntu: that will paste ALL your dmesg log.. which might be very big
[15:29] <JesseC> Does anybody have experience with Likewise Open / Beyondtrust PBIS?
[15:29] <deicon> MestreLion: http://pastebin.com/AcMDYi0E
[15:29] <grendal-prime> ok i have a netbook and sometimes (with some applications) the dialog boxes or program themsefls just dont fit on the screen
[15:29] <ubuntu> MestreLion: how would I know what section I want if I dont know what the issue is?
[15:29] <mun24> I lost root passwprd
[15:30] <grendal-prime> on my aspire i can soom away from the desktop and reposition the windo then zoom back in on it.
[15:30] <grendal-prime> what is that called...i though it was desktop switcher..
[15:31] <droid-0854> Ubuntu, dmesg | cat > file.name
[15:31] <MestreLion> ubuntu: what is your issue?
[15:31] <mun24> I tried to reset root password in recovery mode. But that passsword works only in recovery mode
[15:31] <ikonia> mun24: the root password is locked by default
[15:32] <ubuntu> MestreLion: computer reboots upon boot
[15:32] <ikonia> mun24: you should not be changing it
[15:32] <ikonia> mun24: ubuntu uses "sudo" as an authentication model
[15:33] <droid-0854> You can use.   sudo sh   to open a shell
[15:33] <MestreLion> deicon: [ 5155.160311] usb 1-2: device descriptor read/all, error -71 that looks suspitious
[15:33] <ubuntu> MestreLion: I thought it was a / hd issue because it does it on windows too. Also did a mem test too
[15:33] <deicon> MestreLion: everything look suspicious
[15:33] <ubuntu> MestreLion: /dev/sda contains windows and ubuntu /
[15:34] <deicon> MestreLion: looks :P
[15:34] <droid-0854> Ubuntu,  could be power supply
[15:34] <mun24> ikonia: Then how can I recover root password
[15:34] <ikonia> mun24: you do'nt need to
[15:34] <ikonia> mun24: you use "sudo" to perform root actions
[15:34] <ikonia> mun24: the root password does not exist by default
[15:34] <deicon> MestreLion: its just the name lol
[15:34] <ubuntu> droid-0854: ya I thought that now that it did it on the livedisc too
[15:34] <MestreLion> deicon: now unplug it, replug it, and run dmesg | tail -n 50 | pastebinit
[15:34] <deicon> MestreLion: of the usb
[15:34] <compdoc> ubuntu, did you try smartctl as I suggected?
[15:34] <compdoc> suggested
[15:35] <AaronCampbell> Why does compiz always show it's using something like 60-70% cpu (via top)?  Is there something specific that I have going that might be causing this?  Could it be because I have several (4) monitors?
[15:35] <mun24> ikonia: I have 2 users in that. I am able to reset in recovery mode but unable to login normally with them
[15:36] <deicon> MestreLion: http://pastebin.com/KFmptUcs
[15:36] <rogst> mun24:do you login from the console or over ssh?
[15:36] <mun24> console
[15:37] <CharminTheMoose> Doesn't sudo as an authentication model to do root tasks break any kind of security in a multi-user environment? I mean, if a regular user can just 'sudo apt-get' stuff, it could wreak havoc if the user is malicious.
[15:37] <deicon> MestreLion: how can i mount the usb to a mountpoint
[15:37] <rogst> mun24: have you tried to use sudo -s and change password for root?
[15:37] <sipior> CharminTheMoose: that's why only the initial user is added to /etc/sudoers to begin with.
[15:37] <NSNO> CharminTheMoose: don't add the user to the sudoers group..
[15:38] <ikonia> rogst: no !
[15:38] <ikonia> there is no need to change/set the root users password
[15:38] <ikonia> mun24: what is the name of the user you cannot login with
[15:38] <sipior> CharminTheMoose: sudo actually allows for a broad range of actions and controls for superuser privilege; it's not an all-or-nothing affair.
[15:38] <mun24> normal user
[15:38] <MestreLion> deicon: ok, it is correctly recognized as sdb1, this is good... let's see if it's not already mounted somewhere: mount | pastebinit
[15:39] <rogst> ikonia: I know there should not be a need for it but perhaps he want to enable the root account
[15:39] <CharminTheMoose> True, sipior. I guess I was thinking about the initial user.
[15:39] <sipior> CharminTheMoose: for example, a user could be permitted to run a small, carefully-selected number of programs as root.
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> the model for security that I use, is that ssh logins are not permitted via passwords, only via ssh keys. Then the users password, in effect becomes a "personal root password".
[15:39] <MestreLion> deicon: also, install disc utility from software center and see if it gives any relevant info.
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> (if they have sudo rights)
[15:40] <deicon> MestreLion: http://pastebin.com/J5Kb9D7X
[15:40] <deicon> MestreLion: its installed
[15:40] <grendal-prime> Pumpkin-, basicall, you copy your key up to the server then sudo as the user and add that key to the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file right?
[15:40] <Pumpkin-> no
[15:41] <deicon> MestreLion: when i try to mount it from disk utility it says that Daemon is inhibited
[15:41] <MestreLion> deicon: is gparted running?
[15:42] <MestreLion> deicon: some utilities, like gparted, inhibit auto-mounting of usb drives...
[15:42] <droid-0854> G
[15:43] <droid-0854> ...
[15:43] <droid-0854> ..cz
[15:43] <MestreLion> deicon: usually, just closing the app and re-plugging the hdd is enough for it to auto-mount and show in nautilus
[15:43] <deicon> MestreLion: i tried with g parted on or off
[15:44] <deicon> MestreLion: okay i mounted it
[15:44] <MestreLion> deicon: close gparted, replug hdd, open disk utility. Still "Daemon is inhibited" ?
[15:44] <deicon> MestreLion: okay fixed
[15:44] <MestreLion> how?
[15:45] <deicon> MestreLion: lol i believed that gparted is off but it was on
[15:45] <deicon> MestreLion: so many windows
[15:45] <MestreLion> lol ;)
[15:45] <MestreLion> does it auto-mount now when plugged?
[15:46] <deicon> MestreLion: wait
[15:46] <AndyUbuntu> just realise the gnome-shell extensions are not working in the latest version of gnome-shell(3.3) has anyone come across this also?
[15:46] <MestreLion> you shouldn't be required to maually mount any usb drives, altought you always can.. either with Disk Utility (which uses fuser), OR sudo mount command
[15:46] <Pumpkin-> 1.) I turn off password logins in sshd_config. 2.) I get users to give  me ssh public keys when I create accounts and add them to the users .ssh/authorized_keys file. 3.) I give that user whatever sudo rights they need, and set the password to change on next login (passwd -e).
[15:47] <Pumpkin-> grendal-prime: sorry for the slow answer, got a call
[15:47] <droid-0854> I had an auto mount error and ended up formattin :(
[15:47] <deicon> MestreLion: okay its auto mounted now
[15:47] <jexpeck> new newbie here... is this a good place to ask about ubuntu server stuff?
[15:47] <MestreLion> deicon: for permanent mounts, you might edit /etc/fstab
[15:47] <vageesh> hi, i have an issue that my touchpad is not working all of a sudden
[15:47] <deicon> MestreLion: i edit it but ..
[15:47] <sipior> jexpeck: sure. there's also #ubuntu-server.
[15:48] <deicon> MestreLion: i wanted to mount to make a bootable image in this usb
[15:48] <grendal-prime> thats ok no need Pumpkin-  i just was poking fun
[15:48] <deicon> MestreLion: idk i ve done this many times
[15:48] <Praxi> I'm using Remmina Remote Desktop on a new ubuntu 11.04 install, is there a way to make it resize RDP's resolution to the current window size?
[15:48] <jexpeck> cool..
[15:48] <deicon> MestreLion: but now doesnt work with unetbootin
[15:48] <MestreLion> deicon: maybe because unetbootin does not recognize it as a flash drive (well, it isn't)
[15:49] <shaneo> hey guys how do i get chromium to import my firefox data it says theres no supported browser when i try to import
[15:49] <deicon> MestreLion: but i ve done it before
[15:49] <deicon> MestreLion: some time go
[15:49] <deicon> MestreLion: some time ago
[15:50] <MestreLion> deicon: you don't need fstab for that... it seems you don't want a permanent mount (do you?)
[15:50] <deicon> MestreLion: you have options about the drive (the selection) i mean but when i procced
[15:50] <deicon> MestreLion: it says that finished automatically
[15:50] <jexpeck> i am replacing a windoze based server and 10 workstations for a non profit... we're upgrading from 8 year old computers to 4 year old computers.. i want to use ubuntu destop and ubuntu server for the implementation.. question is do i have to have server hardware for ubuntu server edition or can i use a regular desktop?
[15:50] <deicon> MestreLion: and when i go to usb nothing in
[15:50] <AndyUbuntu> goodaye guys
[15:51] <AndyUbuntu> can anyone shed any light on this situation?
[15:51] <MestreLion> when you auto-mount stuff, they are mounted to ~/.gvfs/<label>
[15:51] <MestreLion> deicon: if that helps
[15:51] <AndyUbuntu> I am unable to use any of my shell extensions
[15:51] <deicon> MestreLion: i can see that
[15:51] <AndyUbuntu> think it is due to the new version of ubuntu
[15:51] <deicon> MestreLion: all the usb and the drives mounted now
[15:52] <deicon> MestreLion: but i cant make a bootable image
[15:52] <cheryl> Greetings oh holders of all linux knowledge!!
[15:52] <cheryl> I am having trouble installing updates AGAIN :(
[15:52] <MestreLion> deicon: can you try with USB Startup Disk Creator instead of Unetbootin?
[15:52] <deicon> MestreLion: i tried
[15:53] <deicon> MestreLion: god isnt with me now
[15:53] <AndyUbuntu> Gteetings
[15:53] <deicon> MestreLion: i 've
[15:53] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[15:53] <triscuit> my deja dup backup is creating 220 files, why?
[15:53] <MestreLion> deicon: man, I don't know... if it auto-mounts correctly, if you can copy files there using nautilus, read, delete files, etc... than your dive isn't the issue
[15:53] <Praxi> ohnos 2 putty clients in the software center, so confused hehe
[15:53] <droid-0854> deicon, impossible
[15:54] <MestreLion> deicon: wait... what is the filesystem ?
[15:54] <deicon> ntfs
[15:54] <deicon> i tried with fat32
[15:54] <deicon> if you want to say that
[15:54] <MestreLion> deicon: it must be fat32 for booting Ubuntu ISOs
[15:54] <droid-0854> Try a new card
[15:55] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, are you logged in via gnome-shell or Ubunt2D/3D
[15:55] <deicon> MestreLion: but i want to boot windows
[15:55] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, im logged in via gnome-shell at the moment
[15:55] <deicon> MestreLion: idk it doesnt work right now but it did
[15:56] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, what tool are you using to set the themes
[15:56] <cheryl> What do I do if the Update manager is freaking out about installing untrusted packages, namely Google talk??
[15:56] <MestreLion> deicon: I'm not sure how can you use unetbootin to make bootable windows drives
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  freaking out?
[15:56] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, i have been using gnome tweek
[15:56] <deicon> MestreLion: but startup disk creator doesnt work either now
[15:57] <shaneo> hmmm and will it let you apply the theme or is the option blocked off
[15:57] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, ^^
[15:57] <MestreLion> deicon: startup disk creater is for ubuntu isos only, that's for sure
[15:57] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, A big red no entry sign followed by "Requires installation of untrusted packages" is surely it freaking out on me?
[15:57] <bazhang> deicon, how does making a windows startup disk relate to ubuntu support
[15:57] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, is there a prob with that tool?
[15:57] <deicon> MestreLion: but in some way i ve done it
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  using a PPA?
[15:58] <MestreLion> deicon: not using SDC, i'm sure
[15:58] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, no but you may be missing some dependencies required to allow the themes
[15:58] <deicon> MestreLion: sdc no but unetbootin
[15:58] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Errrr....ummm...if I dunno wot one of them are probably not! lol
[15:58] <bazhang> deicon, ##windows for windows issue NOT here
[15:58] <MrHeat> Hi folks, quick question... i changed my kernel to virtual one... how to check if grub is correctly configured? (Ubuntu 11.10)
[15:58] <ikonia> MrHeat: what do you mean correctly configured ?
[15:58] <ikonia> MrHeat: is your new kernel getting booted ?
[15:58] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, do you have the Gnome3 ppa installed ?
[15:58] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, clear your to do list, this could take a while!
[15:58] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, oh ok. That sounds good :) Do you know what I can do to fix this
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  how did you install google talk?
[15:59] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, yeah i think so. Which one?
[15:59] <deicon> MestreLion: and how can a user of ubuntu using the ubuntu environment make a bootable image with windows
[15:59] <MrHeat> ikonia: well, i installed it via apt-get install... i want to check grub before try to reboot... (because its virtualized)
[15:59] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, by clicking on it on Google page,
[15:59] <bazhang> deicon, its not an ubuntu issue
[15:59] <MestreLion> and bazhang is correct... your drive looks fine... if it auto-mounts and you can copy files just fine, it is not an ubuntu issue. It is, at best, an unetbootin issue... and i have NO idea if it allows creation of windows startup disks
[15:59] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, this one https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/gnome3
[15:59] <deicon> MestreLion: okay i know
[15:59] <bazhang> deicon, windows has tools for that, ask in ##windows
[16:00] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I don't use it, help me uninstall it plse?
[16:00] <ikonia> MrHeat: look at the grub config then, see if it's pointing at the new kernel file
[16:00] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, i have that disabled at the mo as i was having problems with it
[16:00] <MrHeat> ikonia: I dont know how to see that :P
[16:00] <AndyUbuntu> I will reinstall the ppa now
[16:00] <deicon> MestreLion: i know the tools but it doesnt work its upgrades and cant support
[16:00] <ikonia> MrHeat: it's a text file, /etc/grub.conf
[16:00] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, what kind of problems also what distro are u running
[16:00] <ikonia> MrHeat: /boot/grub.cfg sorry
[16:01] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, please post errors to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:01] <_Marcus> shaneo: Figuring this is #ubuntu, and his name is "AndyUbuntu", he is most likely running Ubuntu
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  does it specify which packages?
[16:01] <MrHeat> ikonia: "/boot/grub.cfg" [New File]
[16:01] <shaneo> _Marcus, theres more than one version of ubuntu
[16:01] <AndyUbuntu> i am running ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3.309 the latest version and I am just getting incompatible extentions with this version of gnome shell
[16:01] <MestreLion> deicon: in an ubuntu environment I would simply burn a windows iso into a CD/DVD... it is the most one could do anyway
[16:01] <MrHeat> ikonia: it means the file doesn't exists :P
[16:01] <cheryl> Monk
[16:02] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Only this - google-talkplugin
[16:02] <_Marcus> shaneo: It's all Ubuntu though
[16:02] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, as a matter of interest what does ppa stand for?
[16:02] <kawer> Offensive technology of mental control or how to control the masses :
[16:02] <kawer> http://www.scribd.com/doc/19700543/httpwwwneotrouvecomDossier-Les-Technologies-Offensives-de-Controle-Politique
[16:02] <kawer> Still think of being free?
[16:02] <deicon> MestreLion: all my cd/dvds are full
[16:02] <FloodBot1> kawer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <kawer> [/info]
[16:02] <bazhang> kawer, wrong channel
[16:02] <shaneo> _Marcus, some versions work diff than others he nay be running pangolian for all i know in that case i couldnt offer any help as i dont use it
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  PPA is Personal Package Archive, a local software source
[16:02] <MestreLion> deicon: you cannot create a hdd startup disk in windows environment either, unless you're talking about MS-DOS / COMMAND.COM boot images
[16:03] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, will try absorb that 'n become more clever :)
[16:03] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, remove gnomeshell and reinstall with the ppa i sent you
[16:03] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, thats ok. I am using ubuntu 11.10
[16:03] <Praxi> MestreLion, isn't that what WIN PE is called?
[16:03] <AndyUbuntu> ok will give that a shot
[16:03] <AndyUbuntu> cheers shaneo
[16:03] <Praxi> boots a windows like environment, gives me access to local NTFS drives
[16:03] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Am just proud to be in a MS free zone 'n proudly opensource!! :)
[16:04] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, good luck and pastebin any errors i will check it out
[16:04] <deicon> MestreLion: wait you tell that you cant create a startup disk (ubuntu) in windows?
[16:04] <deicon> :S
[16:04] <cheryl> !pastebin
[16:04] <MestreLion> Praxi: sure... and without any thrid-party tools, can you build a Win PE partition in out-of-the-box windows?
[16:04] <bazhang> deicon, thats not supported here. ##windows
[16:04] <OttifantSir> (OttifantSir) Using wine 1.3.28 in xubuntu 11.10  I have installed Starcraft from battle.net but when starting the game, I only hear sounds, no picture. Do I need something more?
[16:04] <bazhang> MestreLion, lets move on
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  read this http://www.troublefixers.com/google-talk-for-ubuntu-procedure-to-install-and-use-web-based-gtalk-for-linux/
[16:05] <kitchen> how does one control the jack detection in oneiric?
[16:05] <deicon> bazhang: how it isnt iam using ubuntu
[16:05] <bazhang> OttifantSir, what does the appdb say
[16:05] <bazhang> deicon, not for that.
[16:05] <kitchen> my sound keeps skipping a bit as ... something ... auto probes for the headphone jack being plugged
[16:05] <kitchen> afaik
[16:05] <deicon> bazhang: i dont understand why
[16:05] <Praxi> the tools suck but ya, the 3rd party tools are way more functional and meant for the masses hehe.
[16:05] <deicon> bazhang: wait when i go to #windows what ill ask?
[16:05] <bazhang> deicon, /join ##windows
[16:05] <MestreLion> deicon: what do you want? to use ubuntu to create a windows disk, or to use windows to create an ubuntu disk ? for the former, google. For the latter, unetbootin has a windows port
[16:05] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I am not THAT keen on becoming a geekish woman lol, any quickfix solution to my problem? I  need to do updates.
[16:06] <OttifantSir> Bazhang: it says gold but nothing about missing video
[16:06] <deicon> MastreLion: i want to use ubuntu to create a windows disk
[16:06] <bazhang> OttifantSir, #winehq for particular apps
[16:06] <FLeiXiuS> How can I tell if my box booted from a clean state?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  i don't know if there's a quick fix :/
[16:06] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, also make sure your logged out of gnome shell and into unity when uninstalling gnome
[16:07] <shaneo> dont know if it matters but it would be a wise decision
[16:07] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, I did have that installed actually
[16:07] <Jacta_> hi AndyUbuntu
[16:07] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Do you not know how we can remove google-talkplugin on commandline?
[16:07] <AndyUbuntu> Hi Jacta_
[16:07] <deicon> MastreLion: i want to use ubuntu to create a windows disk
[16:07] <bazhang> deicon, stop
[16:08] <deicon> bazhang: what iam doing
[16:08] <MestreLion> deicon: PM before you get kicked
[16:08] <OttifantSir> Bazhang: was in wrong channel. Sorry
[16:08] <bazhang> deicon, I have told you repeatedly ##windows for that
[16:09] <Jacta_> how are you AndyUbuntu?
[16:09] <Praxi> what does #windows have to do with burning a iso on ubuntu?
[16:09] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, can I ask which version of the extensions you are using?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  you can use sudo apt-get purge
[16:09] <_Marcus> Praxi: He wants to burn a disk with Windows on it.
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  but better ask someone else, i'm not familiar with google talk
[16:10] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Hmmm....so I apt get purge then wot?  I am VERY green!
[16:10] <diverdude> Is php 5.4. available in the ubuntu repo
[16:10] <profxavier> hi guys, i just purchased a remote Ubuntu machine, which I acess via ssh. I ran my usualy update/upgrade, but when the box reboots, its prompting me to Configure grub. As I haven't initially setup the machine, i see a /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 (/)
[16:10] <Praxi> ya so? who cares whats on it, is he using a burning program in linux?  is he trying to customize it or something thats prompting all the hate?
[16:10] <profxavier> what should I choose as my option, or do I bypass this portion, without selecting anything ?
[16:10] <bazhang> Praxi, its not supported here. lets move on
[16:11] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu,  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
[16:11] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I just rant Synaptic, did a search for google-talkplugin, found it 'n am removing it! Should solve problem!
[16:11] <ShooterMG> does ubuntu 11.10 ship with a way for me to log in via ssh and push messages to the desktop?
[16:11] <shaneo> ShooterMG, yes ssh
[16:11] <arvin_> ubuntu is the best
[16:12] <arvin_> can someone recamond a video editor
[16:12] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Watch this space am refreshing update now.....is a slow pc!
[16:12] <AndyUbuntu> ok thanks, just wondering as I have all the latest versions installed shaneo and also have the latest gnome shell which is a version higher
[16:12] <AndyUbuntu> I will see what happens
[16:12] <shaneo> and still no results >
[16:13] <bazhang> arvin_, openshot comes to mind
[16:13] <profxavier> nevermind
[16:13] <arvin_> thanks
[16:14] <arvin_> bye
[16:14] <profxavier> sweet, the Ubuntu guide is still being maintained!
[16:15] <profxavier> anyone know if its a good resource ?
[16:15] <Dulak> ShooterMG: I don't think it ships, but there is the libnotify-bin package which gives you the notify-send command for sending notifications to the desktop from the commandline.
[16:15] <pg345> Hello. I have some preseeding problems/questions.
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> profxavier  if it's useful to you, then it's good
[16:15] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, here is my pastebin when i run gnome-tweak-tool in terminal http://pastebin.com/qgY9rZs4
[16:16] <profxavier> sometimes ppl find they have incorrect info, so im just asking if anyone has had experience with it
[16:16] <AndyUbuntu> it seems to be having problems with widgets
[16:16] <profxavier> i know back in the day, i found it great
[16:16] <michal_> hi,I have ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop,I bought Netgear WNDA3100v2 and its not workink.I have managed to install software it can see my network but it asking me for passwowrd even when im entering it correctly
[16:16] <bazhang> profxavier, the manual?
[16:16] <profxavier> bazhang, the Ubuntu Guide
[16:16] <profxavier> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Oneiric
[16:16] <bazhang> profxavier, got a link?
[16:16] <profxavier> yep ;)
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> michal_  password or WPA key?
[16:17] <bazhang> profxavier, its okay; unofficial afaik
[16:17] <michal_> password
[16:17] <profxavier> bazhang, yeah, i used to go down the page each new Ubuntu install
[16:17] <michal_> It was WPA
[16:17] <profxavier> it usually had all i needed and more
[16:17] <Aufwind> What is the right syntax for starting a process (in background) whose output should be routed to the file my.out This: nohup python myscript.py > matrix.out 2>&1 &  OR this?  nohup python myscript.py > 2>&1 matrix.out  &    ?
[16:18] <Aufwind> Aufwind, I am a little confused because different people say different things about this... :-(
[16:18] <dlentz> michal_, does your password have spaces or strange characters in it?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Aufwind  i gies
[16:18] <pg345> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04, here's my config based from the example. As it is, the installation works but the keyboard is not setup correctly. Also, when i replace « ubuntu-desktop » with « lamp-server » the installation just hangs.
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Aufwind  i guess the channel #bash is more suitable for you
[16:19] <michal_> no,only digits and letters
[16:19] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, hmm thats wierd gimme a sec to do some investigating
[16:19] <AndyUbuntu> o thanks
[16:19] <AndyUbuntu> ok*
[16:19] <michal_> no spaces
[16:19] <Aufwind> MonkeyDust, Ok thanks!
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> pg345  type /join #ub ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> pg345  type /join #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[16:20] <pg345> thanks
[16:21] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Solved that problem, but now it's asking for a Lucid disc, as far as my memory serves me I'm still on Maverick 'cos my hardware couldn't cope with Lucid....so am hesitant to use Natty.....seems to be doing something now, I will return if I get stuck again, thanks for your genius :)
[16:21] <samkuehn> if I install 12.04 beta1 will I be able to upgrade to the final release via apt?
[16:21] <bazhang> cheryl, comment out the cd in your sources.list
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  Maverick is no longer supported, i think
[16:22] <bazhang> !final | samkuehn
[16:22] <yoshimi-pink> what's the package name of the default image viewer on ubuntu?
[16:22] <yoshimi-pink> google keeps taking me to 'how to change it' sites
[16:22] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, So am doomed if I can't afford newer hardware :(
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  ok, Maverick is still supported for a few weeks
[16:22] <samkuehn> ubottu:  great thanks.  I thought that is what I read but I wanted to confirm
[16:23] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, install gnome apps from here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/gnome-shell-ubuntu-11-10-guide/ and see if that helps
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  newer hardware?
[16:23] <cheryl> I don't think Lucid liked my memory or somming to that effect!
[16:23] <chinthu> how can i enter into terminal?
[16:23] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I don't think Lucid liked my memory or somming to that effect!
[16:24] <michal_> I really wish to be able to make it run,this is my second adapter-first was cisco-that was my bad I did not check it but this ment to be plug and play,I know it does not like WPA so I have made my own password and stil not taking it
[16:24] <bazhang> chinthu, open a terminal? or get to tty
[16:24] <chinthu> bazhang: what is tty?
[16:24] <bazhang> chinthu, no x server
[16:25] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, if that doesnt work uninstall these three pkgs libpulse-mainloop-glib0, libpulse0 and libxfixes3
[16:25] <cheryl> bazhang, Am sending you Valium, even I know how to open a terminal :)
[16:25] <auronandace> !tty | chinthu
[16:25] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, ok thanks
[16:25] <bazhang> chinthu, to open a terminal ctrl alt T
[16:25] <AndyUbuntu> I went through the same install earlier on omg ubuntu
[16:25] <chinthu> bazhang: actually i am new to ubuntu and hardly know some technical words... :(
[16:25] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:26] <cheryl> bazhang, Hey, never knew THAT key sequence, thanks, beats going thru menus! :)
[16:26] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, lol jeez sounds like your having a hell of a day
[16:26] <shaneo> this is why i use unity
[16:27] <shaneo> with ICS gtk3 theme
[16:27] <AndyUbuntu> yea, well i did install loads of php libraries. This meant it kinda broke the install and have had to reinstall parts again
[16:27] <AndyUbuntu> gnome-shell finally working again after a few hours
[16:28] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell whats is the ouput when you run that command
[16:28] <shaneo> if all is well it will reply with nothing or it will show unmet dependencies
[16:28] <AndyUbuntu> it says its fine
[16:29] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:29] <michal_> can anyone help me with that netgear WNDA3100v2 or tell me where to go?
[16:29] <shaneo> also sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[16:29] <Xabster> Anyone got time to help me fix pureftpd? :/ I followed a guide step-by-step but I can't login on the server... it responds, but it won't accept the password: http://paste.ubuntu.com/893837/
[16:29] <Xabster> michal_, netgear's website?
[16:29] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, also sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[16:30] <chinthu> bazhang: ubottu thanks a lot... feels more confident to come up with more questions. this time, i will learn. it was this hesitation, that i am wasting your time, which pulled me back from learning more
[16:30] <AndyUbuntu> they both return nothing at all
[16:30] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:30] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, and sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-common
[16:30] <shaneo> than run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:31] <michal_> I did follow steps and I have make it work but its not acceptin the pasword
[16:31] <shaneo> sudo apt-get install -f
[16:31] <chinthu> bazhang:  thanks :)
[16:31] <AndyUbuntu> lol, they all return nothing
[16:31] <bazhang> chinthu, there is not wasting time if you need help, thats why we are here
[16:32] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, hmm this is odd
[16:32] <shaneo> did you purge and reinstall
[16:32] <AndyUbuntu> I dont think I have done a purge
[16:32] <shade34321> I'm trying to ssh into an ubuntu box and keep getting this error, no hostkey alg
[16:32] <shade34321> , any idea on how to fix it?
[16:32] <shaneo> sudo apt-get purge gnome*
[16:32] <AndyUbuntu> i did follow the same comandes earlier
[16:32] <chinthu> bazhang: ya.. am realising that now... hopes am not too late :) thank you!
[16:32] <AndyUbuntu> purge gnome, will that be ok?
[16:33] <AndyUbuntu> that will remove everything tho right?
[16:33] <shaneo> for gnome yes
[16:33] <shaneo> login to unity purge and re-install
[16:33] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: No, because Gnome is a Meta-pkg. Do: "sudo aptitude purge '~c'"
[16:33] <bazhang> shaneo, what is he trying to remove?
[16:34] <shaneo> having him reinstall gnome-shell
[16:34] <bazhang> !info gnome
[16:34] <AndyUbuntu> ok, which is the best to do
[16:34] <michal_> where else shoul I look for healp except Netgear?
[16:34] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: That will purge all apps that are not currently installed
[16:35] <chrispin> Hello guys, could someone point me at a network diagrammer tool for Ubuntu system
[16:35] <sacarlson> shade34321: hostkey algorithum I take it.  so maybe delete you .ssh files on the client or better just rename them
[16:35] <shaneo> do what __Alex_ said sudo aptitude purge gnome*
[16:35] <__Alex_> No, not gnome*. sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[16:35] <shaneo> do it from unity desktop though as being logged in to gnome while purging could create issues
[16:35] <AndyUbuntu> ok so I will need to run sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[16:35] <AndyUbuntu> ok thanks
[16:35] <__Alex_> Yes, Andy
[16:36] <AndyUbuntu> ok I will be right back then
[16:36] <AndyUbuntu> cheers
[16:36] <shaneo> than reinstall and all should be good
[16:36] <shaneo> sudo aptitude install gnome*
[16:36] <husk> anyone know where the default wallpapers are located?
[16:36] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Houston we have successsfully updated!! :-D
[16:36] <__Alex_> shaneo: Aptitude doesn't work with *
[16:36] <bazhang> shaneo, that command will not do it
[16:37] <shade34321> sacarlson, like the entire .ssh folder in our home directory?
[16:37] <shaneo> oh sorry dont use it much figured commands were the same
[16:37] <__Alex_> husk: I'm not sure, but maybe somewhere in /usr/share
[16:37] <sacarlson> shade34321: probly in this file but just rename the whole dir .ssh ,  yes
[16:37] <bazhang> and aptitude is not installed by default
[16:37] <shaneo> i better just stick to apt-get commands :p
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !yay| cheryl flowers for you
[16:38] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Now if u live in the UK and have a lucid disc I'll bake you a cake!! :)
[16:38] <sacarlson> shade34321: for me would  probly be this file /home/sacarlson/.ssh/authorized_keys
[16:38] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Where can I d/load lucid disc?
[16:38] <shade34321> sacarlson, hmm...that could be a problem...the home directory is a nsf mount and we need it to gain access to the lab...hmm I would hope it's only the authorized_keys file
[16:38] <shade34321> i will try and rename it
[16:39] <sacarlson> shade34321: on the client side not the server
[16:39] <__Alex_> shaneo: apt-get is fast, but it handles dependencies a lot worse than Aptitude, and Aptitude has also a TUI, so it's actually user friendly
[16:40] <mzayso> hello can someone helpme im gettin this error xinit; unable to connect to x server: connection refuse, xinit server error , error in looking authority file
[16:40] <AndyUbuntu> thanks guys, back on unity now
[16:40] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:40] <shade34321> sacarlson, on the machine, so if my machine was named pigeon I would change /home/shade34321/.ssh/authorized_keys right?
[16:40] <michal_> can someone help me with my NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 ? It recognize my network but does not acepting the password.Its not WPA it my own,only letters and digits no spaces.Please.Or tel me where to look except for netgear-I was there already
[16:40] <shade34321> sacarlson, btw thanks for the helping me solve this problem
[16:41] <shaneo> __Alex_, thanks for the heads up ill give it a shot
[16:41] <AndyUbuntu> ok, so it says 246 to remove now
[16:41] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, good luck
[16:41] <AndyUbuntu> will that be ok?
[16:41] <__Alex_> Yes
[16:41] <__Alex_> The apps are already removed, it's just config files
[16:41] <sacarlson> shade34321: ya but to be safe just rename the entire ~.ssh directory,  I think it will fill with defaults on the first run if needed
[16:41] <sacarlson> shade34321: or if  you have time try one at a time
[16:41] <AndyUbuntu> cheers, kinda worried. Will I then reinstall gnome shell before loggin out or will i need a reboot?
[16:42] <AndyUbuntu> oh ok good stuff
[16:42] <shade34321> sacarlson, but if the /home directory is mounted on all computers wouldn't that just lock me out?
[16:42] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: I recommand rebooting, just in case, but i dobut it's needed.
[16:42] <AndyUbuntu> ok, will do
[16:42] <sacarlson> shade34321: only if it was mounted read only
[16:43] <shade34321> sacarlson, I can log onto any computer in our lab and get the same /home directory including servers and gateway...hmm..ok
[16:43] <shade34321> i will try it
[16:43] <AndyUbuntu> i never seen that command before.
[16:44] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: I found it here long ago: http://segfault.in/2010/03/purge-removed-packages-on-ubuntu/
[16:45] <AndyUbuntu> oh ok, will make sure to remember that one
[16:45] <Amivit> lol my irc banned ubottu by mistake, for type "Glad you made it! :-)"   .... it included "u mad" which triggered an ignore. Oops xD
[16:45] <AndyUbuntu> seems very useful
[16:45] <Amivit> How do I un-ignore someone ?
[16:45] <bazhang> Amivit, which client
[16:45] <Amivit> mirc
[16:45] <bazhang> try in ##mirc
[16:45] <Amivit> Thanks :)
[16:45] <bindi> Amivit: /help /ignore - but anyway.. /ignore -r name
[16:46] <Amivit> there we go :D Thanks !
[16:46] <shade34321> sacarlson, so I renamed the entire .ssh directory to .ssh_bkup and deleted it and tried and  I received the same error. Yet I was able to log onto other machines using other OS's, it defaulted back to my password since I no longer had my RSA keys
[16:47] <thomasd> Help, I need to migrate a sql database onto a local server, This isn't something fishy i'm trying to do i need to maintain a site offline for a bit
[16:47] <drone309> hi peeps!
[16:47] <irctc550> fucking asshole
[16:47] <irctc550> fuckin dick
[16:47] <irctc550> i hate you
[16:48] <sacarlson> shade34321: ya now it should work but you now have to enter your password,  if it fails then the server is setup to disable manual password entry and you will need to create a key file with corrected algorithum
[16:48] <neo1691> I have a problem!! The touchpad is very sensitive.. while typing even the slightest touch on the touchpad takes the cursor where the mouse pointer is pointing to.. Hope i am able to express myself... here is a screenshot of the same http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=214411&d=1331915618
[16:48] <bindi> thomasd: got shell access of the remote server? if so, mysqldump -u username -p password -all-databases > dump.sql
[16:48] <thomasd> does that put it into a sqlite file?
[16:49] <bindi> it's something you can import back, i'm assuming it's a mysql server
[16:49] <thomasd> It's hosted through godaddy so i dont believe i can tunnel into the sql system.
[16:50] <bindi> thomasd: and then to import it back on your local server, just download the dump and do mysql -u username -p < dump.sql
[16:50] <sacarlson> shade34321: other OS's being what solaris?
[16:50] <bindi> thomasd: well i would guess there are php scripts that give you mysql dumps
[16:51] <bindi> thomasd: can you access the remote mysql server?
[16:51] <shade34321> sacarlson, RHEL. I convinced my Professor to ditch RHEL for Ubuntu
[16:51] <thomasd> so it dumps it into a chain of sql commands
[16:51] <bindi> thomasd: yes
[16:51] <The_Pugilist> what is the difference (if any) between using a semicolon and a double ampersand to run multiple commands in a terminal?
[16:51] <office_it_guy201> Hello Ubuntu support channel! Can someone help me out with a possibly-simple problem?
[16:51] <thomasd> bindi: i can connect to the sql server. i cant tunnle into it
[16:51] <bazhang> office_it_guy201, ask the channel
[16:51] <shade34321> so as of right now I'm have three workstatoins running ubuntu, installing currently actually, and 2 working without a problem and I don't remember this problem with the others
[16:51] <bindi> thomasd: try the mysqldump command i gave you, but with -h host.name
[16:52] <thomasd> ok thank you vary much
[16:52] <sipior> The_Pugilist: the latter runs the second command only if the first completes without error.
[16:52] <sacarlson> shade34321: so redhat is on the server or the client side?
[16:52] <The_Pugilist> sipior, thanks :)
[16:52] <office_it_guy201> I have a bunch of Thinkpad T420s machines, running the newest version of Ubuntu, and I can't figure out how to make external monitors work via the DisplayPort. Do I need a special driver?
[16:53] <shade34321> sacarlson, Most of our servers and clients are running RHEL
[16:53] <shade34321> I am in the process of switching over the clients to ubuntu
[16:54] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, did you try the blue fn keys?
[16:54] <sacarlson> shade34321: you should be able to look at the first line of /home/sacarlson/.ssh/authorized_keys  to see what algorithum it was using to give us a clue of the problem
[16:54] <shade34321> we currently have two clients using ubuntu and one OpenSuse...we have a web server using Ubuntu Server, and gateway using a hardened version of gentoo...so we have a few
[16:54] <office_it_guy201> which ones? and when do I press them? I just know when I plug in to the display port, nothing happens and it's not recognized in the system settings
[16:55] <shade34321> sacarlson, we are using rsa keys
[16:55] <Praxi> just shooting from the hip here office_it_guy201, on my old stinkpads, they had keys up top that adjusted display port, and it usually involved holding down a blue FN key to activate those.
[16:56] <thomasd> bindi: Thanks a lot man, mysqldump was just what i needed. I'ts a brute force aproch but it will work
[16:56] <mneptok> office_it_guy201: have you tried restarting the X server after plugging in the external monitor?
[16:56] <office_it_guy201> would you please tell me the command?
[16:56] <__Alex_> office_it_guy201: sudo killall X
[16:56] <mneptok> office_it_guy201: ALT-PrntScrn-K
[16:56] <sacarlson> shade34321: rsa keys should work on ubuntu, so maybe they format them different?  check the version differences of what runs on the working clients and not working client
[16:56] <office_it_guy201> There is one working in my office, so I know this is physically possible
[16:56] <office_it_guy201> ok let me try those...
[16:56] <AndyUbuntu> __Alex_, just about to do a reboot in a min
[16:57] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key  look at the picture, blue FN key then on mine it was F4
[16:57] <AndyUbuntu> just finished
[16:57] <sacarlson> shade34321: and that files key should have worked on something.  but maybe not, has that rsa key ever worked?
[16:57] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, on my stinkpad, that toggled the external display, would go from no external, to external only, to both type thing
[16:58] <shade34321> all of our accounts have worked on all computers, it worked previously on this computer when we had RHEL installed, adn all of our keys allows us to SSH into the two computers running ubuntu as well
[16:58] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, was the monitor recognized in system settings even when the external wasn't toggled on?
[16:58] <Praxi> no
[16:58] <bindi> thomasd: np :)
[16:59] <office_it_guy201> interesting, ok. I will try that in just a few moments…. have to reinstall it seems
[16:59] <office_it_guy201> the beta = not so stable for me
[16:59] <mneptok> Praxi: confirmed. my T-pad recognizes function key presses to switch displays.
[16:59] <Praxi> hehe
[17:00] <office_it_guy201> mneptok, do you have any special drivers, etc installed? or are you just using the default install?
[17:00] <mneptok> office_it_guy201: default FLOSS drivers for everything (e.g. "radeon" for the APU)
[17:00] <sacarlson> shade34321: only thing I see left is the format may be different on redhat with that version,  I've run out of ideas
[17:01] <Praxi> this is a odd question, but is there a way to increase the area that a corner grab uses?
[17:01] <shade34321> sacarlson, it's ok...I actually just realized that my back up of .ssh didn't really make a back up><
[17:01] <Praxi> basically if I try to grab a windows lower right corner to make it bigger, there is very little space there,a nd I always miss it.
[17:01] <shade34321> so working on recovering my keys
[17:01] <sacarlson> shade34321: I guess regen the key on the ubuntu client
[17:02] <shade34321> sacarlson, I have it on our HPC"s so I'm just going to scp it from there since I'm working from home
[17:03] <sacarlson> shade34321: regen the client key and send it to the server
[17:04] <thomasd> bindi: i mostly work with sql through php. can i just use 'mysql -p < dump.sql" to throw it into the local database?
[17:04] <sacarlson> shade34321: I think I forget how it works maybe the server gens the key
[17:04] <bindi> thomasd: mysql -u root -p < dump.sql
[17:04] <thomasd> thanks
[17:04] <shade34321> sacarlson, regardless I'm not there to physicall put the key on the ubuntu machine so I have no way of updating it that way
[17:05] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, what command did you use to reinstall gnome shell?
[17:05] <sacarlson> shade34321: you can run your redhat to login to the ubuntu
[17:05] <ron_paul> i needed to change the ip of this ubuntu server, so i changed it in /etc/network/interfaces, and then restarted /etc/init.d/networking, now when I browse to the ip of the server I get a generic "It works!" page, where before I used to get to a web page GUI of a ticketing system (RT). What could have happened where now it doens't load the web GUI anymore when I browse to the address? Keep in
[17:05] <ron_paul> mind, I only changed the IP address, but I also changed dns to reflect the IP. So before I would browse to 'http://itrequests/' and it would get to the web gui, because I had an itrequests entry in dns to point to the old ip. I changed that entry to reflect the new ip, but now it won't load the page, and instead just goes to a page that says "It works!"
[17:05] <MestreLion> man, that deicon guy was crazy... i demand a 200% raise... :P
[17:06] <Praxi> np, 0*200%=0
[17:06] <thomasd> ron_paul: why are you named after a hobo who likes to hand out fliers?
[17:06] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, sudo apt-get install gnome*
[17:06] <MestreLion> thank you Praxi... now it is fair :D
[17:07] <Praxi> hehe
[17:07] <AndyUbuntu> ok, thanks
[17:07] <ron_paul> thomasd, its just what my parents named me :p
[17:07] <bluefrog> ron_paul, what is changing dns for you?
[17:07] <thomasd> ron_paul: you know whats the worst first name ever? Newt. It sounds like a irksome middleschool nick name
[17:08] <MestreLion> Praxi: bazhang: just for curiosity, he is now going to use dd for that, on th house ;)
[17:08] <sacarlson> shade34321: best we sleep on it,  maybe with hope you'll come up with something before tomaro,  I know it shouldn't be too hard,  hay and maybe the #ssh channel might still be active
[17:08] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, thanks. it seems there are depoendancy issues now
[17:08] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[17:08] <Praxi> ron_paul, apache?
[17:08] <ron_paul> bluefrog, changed the entry that said itrequests points to 192.168.10.2 to the new ip, and then saved the file and restarted bind, and then ping'd the new CNAME
[17:09] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: Try: sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[17:09] <shade34321> sacarlson, I am actually going back in later tonight so I'll work on it then as well...and #ssh isn't...i tried there:/
[17:09] <__Alex_> Aptitude handles dependencies better
[17:09] <Praxi> ron_paul, adjust your virtual hosts maybe?
[17:09] <shade34321> sacarlson, thank you for you help!
[17:09] <MestreLion> bazhang: at least he can't say that Ubuntu has no such tools to write a windows DVD ISO to an USB hdd :P
[17:09] <ron_paul> Praxi, i'm thinking it might have something to do with apache, but i can't think of what. the only thing related would be the conf file, which didn't change, and the vhost settings don't point to any hard coded IP, instead it actually points to the CNA
[17:09] <ron_paul> CNAME
[17:09] <bluefrog> ron_paul, and having dns is nice if the clients can use it. do your clients can resolve computer names to ip?
[17:09] <sacarlson> shade34321: one other thing might take a close look at the server config file to see what algorithum are active
[17:10] <Praxi> ron_paul, hmm is this Request Tracker? does it actually use apache?
[17:10] <ron_paul> bluefrog, i think we only use forward dns
[17:10] <AndyUbuntu> ok, thanks the gnome-shell command worked
[17:10] <ron_paul> Praxi, yeah request tracker uses apache
[17:10] <AndyUbuntu> there was nothing to do though
[17:10] <bluefrog> ron_paul, are we talking of 2 machines or only  one whihc is server and client?
[17:10] <AndyUbuntu> which is a good thing i believe :)
[17:10] <shade34321> ok
[17:10] <Praxi> ron_paul, it has to be virtual hosts type thing, the page you describe is whats in the root of /var/www
[17:11] <bluefrog> ron_paul, check how the vhost are written
[17:11] <Praxi> ron_paul, did you check ports.conf?
[17:11] <ron_paul> i haven't checked ports.conf
[17:11] <ron_paul> i checked the .conf that my vhost is in
[17:11] <ron_paul> i haven't restarted anything besides networking
[17:11] <Praxi> the sites-enabled?
[17:12] <ron_paul> i haven't changed anything in apache, but if it was working before, any reason why it shouldnt be working now that i restarted networking?
[17:12] <Praxi> you should probably check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/ports.conf I think is the other one ron_paul
[17:12] <bluefrog> ron_paul, how are your vhost written? with an ip address?
[17:12] <ron_paul> bluefrog, the vhost doesn't have an ip hard coded, it uses the cname 'itrequests'
[17:12] <Praxi> ron_paul, virtual hosts are often written by IP :)
[17:12] <ron_paul> i can paste it to you
[17:12] <ron_paul> let me pastebin it
[17:13] <Praxi> check ports too
[17:13] <Praxi> if you didn't modify apache, it has info in there too
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> after all that is still says that gnome extension in not supported by shell :)
[17:13] <bluefrog> ron_paul, restart apache
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> ohh well, i really dont know what is going on
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for your help guys
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> much appreciated
[17:14] <Zal> ron_paul, well, the vhosts has to be listening on a specified IP or set of IPs. It may be listening to * (all IPs), or not.
[17:14] <MadsRC> Can anybody tell me why I have to open port 22 in UFW, for my computer to connect to an server with SSH? From what I know, the connection should use a random port on the local host and then the SSH service port (in this case the standard port 22) on the remote host? But blocking port 22 on the local host blocks the connection?
[17:14] <Praxi> ron_paul, do you have more than one apache host?  would there be any benefit to changing /var/www/index.html to verify your hitting your right server?
[17:14] <Zal> ron_paul, but if your local IP changed, you'd have to at least restart apache in any case
[17:15] <ron_paul> i did the easy 'take a stab in the dark' fix
[17:15] <ron_paul> and restarted apache
[17:15] <Praxi> worked?
[17:15] <ron_paul> and it seeme dto have fixed the problem, but i'm not sure why that fixed it
[17:15] <ron_paul> or what went wrong
[17:15] <Zal> MadsRC, you're right, that makes no sense, unless the ssh server is configured to tunnel back to the client. But I don't know what UFW is.
[17:15] <Praxi> sorry assumption that that was done :)
[17:15] <Praxi> because port 80 was bound to another IP
[17:15] <ron_paul> maybe when apache starts it reads the vhost, and converts whatever is in there to IP, and binds it to IP
[17:15] <ron_paul> ahhh
[17:16] <MadsRC> Zal, UFW is a command line frontend for iptables. And the SSH server is a standard OpenSSH server on a ubuntu server
[17:16] <Praxi> I assume I'm saying that right /looks at all the hardcore apache guys
[17:16] <Zal> MadsRC, ok, yeah, that makes little sense. Are you sure you're not opening OUTBOUND connections to port 22?
[17:16] <AndyUbuntu> slightly frustrating that it is not just one extension but all the gnome-shell extensions that are not working. shaneo
[17:16] <Praxi> thats the first thing I always do, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart hehe  :)
[17:17] <ron_paul> :p
[17:17] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, where version of gnome-shell are you using?
[17:17] <ron_paul> i was thinking about doing that, but it didn't make logical sense to do it besides "just doing it"
[17:17] <Zal> MadsRC, I'd be happy to look at your raw iptables rule, if you are able to view it.
[17:18] <ron_paul> but i guess with troubleshooting you just try different things sometimes even if you don't have any logical reason why it works, just to rule it out
[17:18] <Praxi> I'm basically a windows guy ron_paul, budget is forcing me to be a linux guy :)  anytime somethings not right, I restart apache to watch for errors, usually critical errors will keep it from starting.
[17:18] <ron_paul> Praxi, me too, im pretty new to linux myself
[17:18] <ron_paul> Praxi, are you a system admin for a small IT shop?
[17:18] <Praxi> hehe ya
[17:18] <MadsRC> Zal, don't have it right now,I'm on a new pc right now... Gotta finish this cisco chapter (taking the CCNA'right now) and then I'll see if I can reproduce the problem with UFW and see if I can get a hold of you :)
[17:19] <Praxi> I think my title is 'systems architect' but I'm not architecting much, just playing maintenance guy
[17:19] <Zal> MadsRC, others ere can probably help as well :-) Good luck on your CCNA!
[17:19] <MadsRC> Zal, thanks :D
[17:19] <Praxi> I at least got them to setup a magento store and working on openerp now on a ubuntu server, saved em 500$ month so far
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Praxi  no joke: tell that the maintainers of the ubuntu website, there's a 'case study' section
[17:23] <chown_> guys i had a windows installation at one HD and i installed ubuntu at another hd,  i was booting into the ubuntu hd and it was redirecting me to the windows one. But something happened and as i understando i lost the mbr  from the windows hd.
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !mbr| chown_
[17:23] <mk> how can I install the oracle jdk via my package manager?
[17:24] <Rudolph> mk: if I am right: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[17:24] <Rudolph> but, not sure
[17:24] <chown_> I dont lost the grub
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> chown_  no, but the link helps you with the MBR
[17:25] <mk> it says the package is missing
[17:27] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java mk
[17:27] <jinjorge> mk which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[17:29] <mk> 11.10
[17:30] <xubuntu6> is there a way to see ubuntu terminal commands i execute via on the graphical user interface ?
[17:30] <bazhang> mk ubuntu no longer distributes the sun java due to licensing issues, see the link I gave above
[17:30] <mk> bazhang: thanks, I'll read through it
[17:32] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I just tried the external monitor Fn+F7 trick you taught me on a different Thinkpad T420s and it doesn't work
[17:32] <office_it_guy201> there has to be some driver installed on my other T420s that does switch to external displays
[17:32] <office_it_guy201> any idea what it is?
[17:32] <Praxi> can't say as I do sorry
[17:33] <Praxi> when did you do it, before or after X was started?
[17:33] <mk> am I on 32 bit, or 64?
[17:33] <Praxi> and was the lid closed?
[17:33] <office_it_guy201> after x, 64, 12.04 beta, lid open
[17:33] <office_it_guy201> fresh install
[17:33] <Praxi> try booting up with the lid closed
[17:33] <office_it_guy201> ok running updates and then will try that..
[17:34] <office_it_guy201> it works PERFECTLY on another T420s running 11.10 though
[17:34] <office_it_guy201> but if I fresh install 11.10 on a T420s, it doesn't work at all
[17:34] <SoulRaven> when i use ubuntu one, if i have on a remote computer the same files that are present in cloud folder but early version, when i start the sync, what is the sync priority, from cloud to remote computer, or remote computer to cloud
[17:34] <J2> I need help fast. I have dual booted windows 7 and ubu tu, and have rebooted successfully before. Today, after restarting to install some updates in windows 8, I get the error error: unknown filesystem
[17:35] <J2> Grub rescue>
[17:35] <J2> Whatshould I do in this screen
[17:35] <SoulRaven> and in this maner the new files will be replaced with the older files
[17:36] <bazhang> SoulRaven, try in #ubuntuone yet?
[17:36] <Praxi> mk, run this in a terminal and it will give you way too much info about version      uname -a && cat /etc/*release
[17:37] <mk> i...86 presumably means 32?
[17:37] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, booting with the lid closed doesn't make a difference, still doesn't work.
[17:37] <office_it_guy201> oy
[17:37] <jinjorge> J2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 scroll down to "Command Line and Rescue Mode" section
[17:38] <office_it_guy201> Does anyone have a Thinkpad that works with external monitors via the display port? What drivers did you install?
[17:38] <_Marcus> mk: ix86 = 32-bit
[17:38] <xubuntu6> no _ carif?? that made your name! now you'r just boring old carif
[17:41] <mk> does update-alternatives alter the default?
[17:41] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, so you got no video with the lid closed then?
[17:42] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, do you know what video chipset is in it? ATI or Nvidia?
[17:42] <kronxia> Hello. I would really like to get xserver-xorg-video-qxl_0.0.16-2 installed on oneiric, but it seems it has not been backported. Can anyone recommend a way to do this without breaking the system severely?
[17:42] <J2> jinjorge: It tells me everything is a unknown command
[17:42] <office_it_guy201> no video with the lid closed
[17:42] <office_it_guy201> Nvidia
[17:42] <xubuntu6> anyway i can watch echoed commands that i send via gui?
[17:42] <kronxia> Perhaps the relevant patch has been backported to an earlier version of the qxl driver?
[17:42] <Praxi> oh, did you enable twin view in the nvidia settings office_it_guy201?
[17:43] <office_it_guy201> don't know what that is
[17:43] <office_it_guy201> where are the nvidia settings
[17:43] <kash> hello everyone, i recently attempted an upgrade on oneiric to pangolin and it fubar'd on gconf2 libs, says it doesn't exist anymore.
[17:43] <Praxi> using unity? hit the little finder and type nvidia
[17:43] <kash> a preliminary googling showed that it was removed from ia32-libs, a bug was filed and it was fixed, but even though i have the latest version installed it doesn't want to configure anything
[17:44] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, should be a nvidia x server settings, under that, see if both your monitors show up.  If they don't hit that FN F7 until they do.  Once they do, enable twin view on the new monitor that showed up.
[17:45] <Praxi> hmm is there a pastebin for picutres that doesn't require an account? :)
[17:45] <dmn0Q> i had upgrade to the latest kernel 3.3, what is the effect if remove the older kernel?
[17:46] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, can I ask you to be a little more explicit? I'm not sure where the "nvidia x server settings" are or how to get to them
[17:46] <welshy-Rob> hi, ive somehow managed to mess up my ubuntu 11.10 desktop, for some reason unity has completly disapeared and the title bar only shows file edit view go and bookmarks, however when i log out and log back in using Ubuntu 2d it is fine
[17:46] <erinaceus> office_it_guy201: try starting nvidiasettings in a terminal
[17:46] <Praxi> do you have the launcher bar on the left office_it_guy201?  if so at the top of that is that square looking icon, kind of like a finder, lets you type in it
[17:46] <J2> And THIS is why I keep all media on a separate partition
[17:47] <xubuntu6> me too :)
[17:47] <Praxi> in that thing just type nvidia, and the x settings should be the only thing that comes up
[17:47] <xubuntu6> can you not expand items across screens in twinview or send them to the other screen?
[17:48] <Praxi> ya you can
[17:48] <office_it_guy201> ok see it now, let me give that a shot
[17:48] <office_it_guy201> thanks so much for your help, by the way
[17:48] <William0> anyone here heard of this company-----Stromasys?
[17:48] <office_it_guy201> I was kind of just given this project and my boss doesn't know what the problem is either
[17:48] <Praxi> np, on eyed man in a room full of blind people hehe
[17:48] <xubuntu6> what project exactly were you given?
[17:49] <kash> office_it_guy201: haha, may i suggest not using Unity, but instead XFCE?
[17:49] <xubuntu6> XFCE :)
[17:49] <office_it_guy201> not a choice around here, unfortunately
[17:49] <office_it_guy201> for some reason they want all unity all the time
[17:50] <xubuntu6> you should just use ratpoison
[17:50] <kash> why?
[17:50] <kash> why do idiots insist on making IT-related decisions when they've hired people who are they are supposed to trust to handle these things
[17:50] <Praxi> because they hired you? :)
[17:51] <Praxi> and they watched that video, LIKE A BOSS
[17:51] <kash> lol. my job is excellent, i have complete control. :P
[17:51] <office_it_guy201> it doesn't normally matter, as the end users change whatever they want
[17:51] <office_it_guy201> ok so, here's what happened
[17:51] <kash> office_it_guy201: and end users shouldn't be changing much because that makes your job harder
[17:51] <xubuntu6> heh
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> ha, this I know
[17:52] <kash> forget it, just PXE boot all the systems and use snapshots to revert changes when they're logged out.
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> I opened the nvidia x settings, and it gave me the error "you do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root) and restart the x server
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> so I ran that command as root, and then restarted
[17:52] <kash> office_it_guy201: you might not have the nvidia driver installed or selected to be used.
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> and now my laptop display is 640 x 480, and I can't change it
[17:53] <xubuntu6> that's a sweet res you got there
[17:53] <xubuntu6> i'm jealous
[17:53] <tyler_d> me 2
[17:53] <kash> i like 320x240
[17:53] <xubuntu6> hahaha
[17:53] <kash> super high def
[17:53] <xubuntu6> that's worse than my 4 year old phone
[17:53] <tyler_d> lol
[17:53] <MK`> mk: x86 refers to the intel i386 architecture and later
[17:53] <MK`> which are 32-bit
[17:54] <MK`> the i286 and earlier were 16 bit though
[17:54] <tyler_d> I think you need to run the nvidia config tool again office_it_guy201
[17:54] <office_it_guy201> ok, when I open the tool up again I get the same error as the first time
[17:54] <xubuntu6> office_it_guy201 are you just trying to change the resolution?
[17:54] <tyler_d> office_it_guy201: I gave up on trying the nvidia after my laptop got to 100 degrees while running flash with my nvidia enabled
[17:54] <office_it_guy201> no I'm trying to get external monitors to work on a Thinkpad T420s via the display port
[17:54] <Praxi> his goal is to get the external display working
[17:55] <kash> has anyone here successfully navigated the upgrade from oneiric to pangolin and not had the gconf2 bug?
[17:55] <office_it_guy201> I know it's possible, I have one T420s that works perfectly, but I don't know why or how to get the others to work
[17:55] <xubuntu6> i had problems getting my external to work i had to restart the comp with it connected i first thought
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> kash  type /join #ubuntu+1 for pangolin
[17:55] <xubuntu6> office_it_guy check out xrandr and arandr commands
[17:55] <xubuntu6> arandr helped my external display work
[17:55] <Praxi> question office_it_guy201, when you went into the nvidia x server settings, did it show both your monitors in there?
[17:56] <Praxi> OH
[17:56] <mk> MK`: gotcha. Mine reports as 386, though I think I saw the number 686 too.
[17:56] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, Turn off optimus in the bios?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748475
[17:56] <office_it_guy201> I don't think so, let me get a screenshot
[17:56] <llew21> Command failed. I have checked everything and cant see where Ive gone wrong. Thanks
[17:57] <xubuntu6> check out arandr office_it_guy201
[17:57] <office_it_guy201> screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/w0H3M.png
[17:58] <office_it_guy201> ok use the discrete graphics, got it. I'll try that now....
[17:58] <Praxi> hmm ya thats not what my nvidia X looks like at all
[17:58] <xubuntu6> did you connect the monitor after the comp was on?
[17:58] <office_it_guy201> yep
[17:59] <xubuntu6> what happens when you boot up with connected and on?
[17:59] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors  <--Mine looks similar to that hehe
[17:59] <Praxi> xubuntu6 nothing, had him boot up with lid closed too and again nothing
[17:59] <xubuntu6> wish i could click links xchat over xming doesn't allow it lol but copying isn't too hard :)
[18:00] <office_it_guy201> ok, booting up now, connected and on to external monitor with discrete graphics in the bios
[18:00] <xubuntu6> let's hope that works
[18:00] <office_it_guy201> have normal resolution back....
[18:00] <office_it_guy201> and the Fn+F7 does nothing
[18:00] <xubuntu6> is normal resolution good?
[18:01] <xubuntu6> try install arandr
[18:01] <office_it_guy201> ok
[18:01] <xubuntu6> that really helped me
[18:01] <xubuntu6> don't know why it wouldn't work starting it up with it connected
[18:01] <xubuntu6> is this a dvi or an hdmi monitor? or eeek vga?
[18:01] <office_it_guy201> DVI
[18:02] <office_it_guy201> what is arandr
[18:02] <xubuntu6> nice gui of xrandr
[18:02] <xubuntu6> type xrandr does it tell you if it's even recognizing it as connected?
[18:03] <office_it_guy201> ok so I restarted and it's back to the terrible resolution
[18:03] <office_it_guy201> after installing arandr
[18:03] <xubuntu6> hmmm
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> and Fn+F7 does nothing
[18:04] <xubuntu6> but it is showing as connected?? with bad resolution?
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> I'm really surprised this doesn't work out of the box
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> no only the laptop screen is shown, no external
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> and the laptop now only has 640x480 resolution
[18:04] <fidel> hi - is there a good (as in stable working) gui client ftp alternative for filezilla available - you guys might be willing to recommend?
[18:04] <xubuntu6> see if any of the xrandr commands can help you change the resolution
[18:04] <xubuntu6> man xrandr
[18:05] <fidel> filezilla tends to be pretty unstable right now on 11.10
[18:06] <xubuntu6> i'm not a fan of filezilla anymore you can use midnight commander to connect to ftp's
[18:06] <xubuntu6> oh but that's not gui
[18:06] <fidel> half a gui hehe
[18:06] <xubuntu6> true!
[18:06] <arcaos> filezilla's worked fine for me
[18:07] <xubuntu6> used to use filezilla all the time
[18:07] <office_it_guy201> xubuntu6, that's a good idea but I know it's not the best one. I have a T420s that works and I've never had to use that before
[18:07] <office_it_guy201> plus I'd have to learn how to use it
[18:07] <fidel> according to an op in #filezilla it used outdated version of wxwidget - which i reported already to launchpad
[18:07] <office_it_guy201> and I'm unfortunately on a time crunch, I have just today to figure this out
[18:07] <xubuntu6> you can use this command to look up programs sudo apt-cache search ftp
[18:08] <fidel> xubuntu6: i know apt - i was just wondering if some user experiences might help me filtering the huge output
[18:08] <xubuntu6> really trying to help you as best i can that's all i can really think of xrandr arandr restarting with it connected maybe grandr? doubt it though
[18:08] <xubuntu6> and ya you're right huge output wish i had more experience with other ftp clients and could give you some input
[18:09] <tomvolek> Hi,   I got a new dell hardware with raid, Need to install Ubuntu 11.10 on it.  This box will be put at an isp .  We will have a shared monitor with a AB switch . should I install Ubuntu server version or desktop ?
[18:09] <xubuntu6> winscp maybe they make a linscp ha
[18:10] <xubuntu6> fidel do you use firefox? fireftp worked for me for well a long time ago probably still pretty good
[18:10] <office_it_guy201> OK, I'm going to fresh install 11.10 on the machine and start over
[18:10] <office_it_guy201> see what that does
[18:10] <xubuntu6> good luck!
[18:10] <cyka> hello?
[18:10] <xubuntu6> hello?
[18:10] <fidel> i considered that as well xubuntu6 - while i would prefer some standalone app. gonnatest gftp-gtk now. thanks for the input anyways
[18:11] <xubuntu6> welcome fidel let me know how that is
[18:11] <cyka> i need help! seem to have put a bad repository in and theres no way i can see it letting me take it out
[18:11] <xubuntu6> i did that too i just left it doesn't seem to hurt anything for me at least
[18:11] <cyka> installed synaptic to hopefully peak into repositories, but then it wants to read the bad repository then it closes
[18:11] <xubuntu6> oh that's not good
[18:12] <cyka> but its stopping software updates/software center and synaptic doing ANYTHING
[18:12] <cyka> how fraks name do u actually get rid of it
[18:12] <mengu> could anyone tell me why there is a jam happening when i try to do a record? example here: http://ompldr.org/vZDNqbA/2012-03-21-200834.ogg
[18:12] <cyka> although when looking in software sources it doesn't show,
[18:12] <mengu> from 00:00 to 00:02
[18:12] <roasted> Question - can Cron only handle scheduling at specific times? Is there a way to set up Cron so a job runs at startup, etc?
[18:12] <ghostconn_> is it possible to run the gnome shell & unity in Ubuntu 11:10
[18:13] <xubuntu6> i believe so
[18:13] <fidel> cyka: consider checking the apt-sourcesfiles in cli - in case you are somehow familiar with apt & cli
[18:13] <office_it_guy201> xubuntu6, thanks again for your help
[18:14] <linuxlion> cyka, open the file /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:14] <xubuntu6> maybe this will help http://www.unixmen.com/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command-line-in-ubuntu-restore-oficial-package-using-ppa-purge/
[18:14] <xubuntu6> you are welcome office_it_guy201
[18:16] <llutz> roasted: man 5 crontab , read about @reboot
[18:16] <ghostconn_> dose anyone know how to fix a minor problem for me. on just about every windows and app I open my scroll bars on the right are glitchy
[18:17] <roasted> llutz: yeah, I heard that. But I wasn't sure of reboot works on an actual reboot... or if my system has been off for days and I turn it on. Testing it out now with making a folder on my desktop
[18:17] <xubuntu6> look up remove overlay for scrollbars http://www.matbra.com/en/2011/10/13/remover-ou-desabilitar-a-barra-de-rolagem-overlay-%E2%80%93-ubuntu-11-10/
[18:17] <roasted> llutz: looks like it failed. nice.
[18:17] <llutz> roasted: @reboot will run everytime crond starts
[18:18] <roasted> llutz: it didn't run just now.
[18:18] <roasted> @reboot mkdir /home/jason/Desktop/test
[18:18] <magpii> my windows 7 pc died. i have a bitlocker encrypted external hd. i have the password but this ubuntu machine is not picking up the drive. how can i resolve this?
[18:18] <roasted> llutz: do I still need * * * ?
[18:18] <llutz> roasted: no
[18:18] <xubuntu6> you may have to mount it
[18:18] <GhostConn> format youre hdd lol
[18:19] <GhostConn> even mounting it it more then likely wont recognize the encryption
[18:19] <roasted> llutz: meh. not working.
[18:19] <GhostConn> try tho
[18:19] <malac0da> When I try to use ushare on ubuntu 12.04 i get a segmentation fault (core dumped). Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?
[18:20] <magpii> ubuntu is not picking up the drive at all
[18:20] <xubuntu6> magpii Bitlocker is a proprietary, closed-source drive encryption system only supported by Windows. You'll have to remove Bitlocker encryption if you want to access your Windows partitions from Linux.
[18:20] <GhostConn> the filesystem on the drive is more then likely corrupt
[18:20] <Xabster> Eclipse keeps telling me that some SVN module can't perform its task because blahblah.java is not a working copy... it's got to do with subclipse plugin... anyone know of a fix? I'm running 3.7.2 on Ubuntu
[18:21] <magpii> how do i remove the encryption? do i need to attach it to a windows system first/?
[18:21] <xubuntu6> once decrypted use trucerypt for linux
[18:21] <magpii> the drive has a trucrypt partition on it too
[18:21] <Praxi> lol
[18:21] <xubuntu6> hmm
[18:21] <Praxi> double encryption = bad
[18:22] <sepoki> which extension is makefile ?
[18:22] <xubuntu6> down voteBitlocker is a proprietary, closed-source drive encryption system only supported by Windows. You'll have to remove Bitlocker encryption if you want to access your Windows partitions from Linux.See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-is-the-difference-between-disabling-BitLocker-Drive-Encryption-and-decrypting-the-volume ...for instructions on doing so. It would be advisable to have a backup of your data
[18:22] <xubuntu6>  completed first.
[18:22] <xubuntu6> try that
[18:22] <GhostConn> just copy yo're data onto another hdd adn reformatt
[18:22] <DaisyTheCow> What's the best audio preview software for Nautilus?  I've got Gloobus installed but instead of playing a single file and stopping it plays all files in the folder on after the other
[18:22] <GhostConn> simple
[18:22] <xubuntu6> audio preview?
[18:23] <DaisyTheCow> Hovering over an audio file used to play it without opening an app.  This is no longer the case
[18:23] <sepoki> which extension is makefile ? cause there is .in . am .cvs but i cant make it
[18:23] <xubuntu6> wow didn't know that that's pretty cool you can hover and have it play i guess i'm just too use to xubuntu
[18:23] <GhostConn> bitlocker encryption is not that safe to begin with I would never reccomend that to anyone.. there are to many decryption out there for that software. You can decrypt a 100 character alphanumerical password in less then 5min lol
[18:24] <xubuntu6> wowww
[18:24] <xubuntu6> guess it's time to make my password 200 characters
[18:24] <xubuntu6> ugh
[18:24] <vlt> xubuntu6: Well, it can be very annoying if you accidentally move your mouse somewhere and suddenly someone shouts at you.
[18:24] <xubuntu6> haha that's very true vit
[18:25] <xubuntu6> especially if your volume was up high
[18:25] <KBentley57> hey guys, anyone familiar with distcc?
[18:25] <xubuntu6> or connected to your yamaha vsx-21txh with def tech speakers lol
[18:26] <Router> I put ubuntu on a usb and i boot it up and it worked fine then i shut down and when i try to use it again it doesnt load just stays on the page that says ubuntu with 5 dots ??? help please
[18:26] <vlt> xubuntu6: Until last week I had the problem that everytime I logged in my volume was set to 100%. Even after disabling the Ubuntu jingle (played at -0dB! before) I sometimes moved the mouse too close to an audio file :O
[18:27] <GhostConn> it wouldnt matter bitlocker stores you're password lol... ok its just like how a keygen works lol even antivirus... the software itself is loaded with "you're password" so when you type it in it can tell you if you're wrong or right lol now theres ways to get into the software to view that password. Picture antivirus with a validation key/serial and yet you can get a keygen to get a free serial/....now how safe do you rea
[18:27] <GhostConn> lly think a software is when it comes with a keygen
[18:27] <GhostConn> LMAO
[18:27] <Dr4g> Installing mongodb apt-get install mongodb, afterwards the mongo or mongod binary isn't available.
[18:27] <Dr4g> Thoughts ?
[18:28] <vlt> Btw, I solved the audio volume at 100% issue by putting a script to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ that sets audio volume to 12%.
[18:29] <xubuntu6> vlt sets that at startup to 12%?
[18:30] <vlt> xubuntu6: The script sets audio volume to 12%, yes.
[18:30] <GhostConn> is it safe to have a ext4 partition & a 1.8tb partition containg all mkv? this is all on a 2tb hitachi
[18:30] <GhostConn> my drive is brand new yet making add noises
[18:31] <vlt> xubuntu6: 12% is fine for nearly anything, so you can imagine how much my neighbours hated me after I upgraded to 11.10 …
[18:31] <GhostConn> i have run numerous hdd software  & they all indicate the drive is healthy i only have 200+ boots
[18:31] <vlt> GhostConn: Safe?
[18:32] <wiiguy> hello currently i have ubuntu server installed in oracle vm virtualbox, but it wont connect to the internet, i can connect from the pc to teh Vm though
[18:33] <wiiguy> how can i fix this ?
[18:33] <vlt> wiiguy: Do you connect via ssh?
[18:33] <wiiguy> trough outty yes
[18:33] <wiiguy> putty*
[18:33] <tyler_d> wiiguy: is it bridged or natted
[18:33] <linuxlion> wiiguy: check network card settings for the vm?
[18:33] <xubuntu6> you could try changing the settings of the virtualbox to enable bridged connection
[18:33] <GhostConn> hard to explaine? Im wondering if having two separate partitions on the drive is causing the noise? I had the drive originally formatted to a 2tb partition with all my mkv movies on there. however I decided to install ubuntu 11:10 and create another partiton. I then realised that the drive is making noises
[18:34] <wiiguy> i will try :)
[18:34] <xubuntu6> maybe your drive is just failing :(
[18:34] <wiiguy> will let ya know how it goes
[18:34] <AndyUbuntu> hey everyone
[18:34] <xubuntu6> yo
[18:34] <AndyUbuntu> back today
[18:34] <AndyUbuntu> :)
[18:34] <GhostConn> FUCK pardon my language!!! im madd i just bought this drive
[18:34] <jpsullia> hii
[18:34] <jpsullia> hiiiii
[18:35] <GhostConn> hi
[18:35] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know how to install the latest version of gimp?
[18:35] <wiiguy> xubuntu6 that did not fxi it :(
[18:35] <GhostConn> use you're software manager and then run in the terminal sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:35] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, have you tried compiling it yourself?
[18:35] <AndyUbuntu> i installed it through a repo and since adding the repo it has dependancy problems
[18:35] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57
[18:36] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57 i have not tried doing it myself
[18:36] <AndyUbuntu> kinda wanted to do it through the repo
[18:36] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, have you ever tried something like that before?
[18:36] <xubuntu6> are you connecting via ip
[18:36] <xubuntu6> or hostname
[18:36] <xubuntu6> wii
[18:36] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57 i have but not for a long time
[18:36] <Xabster> How do I get the latest JavaHL for Ubuntu?
[18:37] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57 is there a simple way to do that?
[18:37] <wiiguy> xubuntu6 i cant even connect with ssh anymore
[18:37] <GhostConn> sudo apt-get install gimp
[18:37] <GhostConn> lol
[18:37] <gaussblurinc> hello! is there any way to make widget under lxde?
[18:37] <GhostConn> run that in you're terminal
[18:37] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, simple in theory i suppose, as long as you grab the current source, and all the dependencies are met
[18:37] <rob```> are you fucking kidding me? why does "download as text" on ubuntu pastebin require me to login to launchpad? this is bullshit. </rant>
[18:38] <linuxlion> wiiguy: did you set your vm network card to bridged?
[18:38] <KBentley57> you're! != your
[18:38] <wiiguy> network bridge adapter
[18:38] <wiiguy> i did
[18:38] <GhostConn> what are you running vmware in
[18:38] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, ok. Thats what I was worried about. As its not installing correctly through the repo will it be ok through source
[18:38] <linuxlion> wiiguy: you have more than one network card/wireless card in the host machine?
[18:38] <AndyUbuntu> gimp works perfectly well at the moment
[18:38] <GhostConn> it's easy to bridge a connection if you're running default windows
[18:38] <wiiguy> hmm good question
[18:39] <wiiguy> lets see
[18:39] <AndyUbuntu> I would just like stuff like single window mode
[18:39] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, have you tried to purge it via synaptic, and reinstall?
[18:39] <c_smith> rob```, no need for rants.
[18:39] <wiiguy> i have 2 cards
[18:39] <AndyUbuntu> I have not tried this either tbh
[18:39] <wiiguy> one on the motherboard
[18:39] <wiiguy> and a sepperated one
[18:39] <AndyUbuntu> think i shal give this a go first
[18:40] <gaussblurinc> is there any way to make widget under lxde?
[18:40] <wiiguy> but im sure im using the right one
[18:40] <linuxlion> wiiguy: in network settings for vm, make sure to select the card that you are using for host machine
[18:40] <wiiguy> i am using the right one :p
[18:40] <linuxlion> wiiguy: what kind of info does ifconfig give you?
[18:41] <wiiguy> let em boot for a sec again
[18:41] <linuxlion> wiiguy: are you getting same subnet/ip range as your host machine?
[18:41] <wiiguy> 1 sec
[18:41] <linuxlion> kk
[18:42] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, this is generally what i receive when i try to install http://pastebin.com/zqHxk9f2
[18:42] <AndyUbuntu> i have just tried it through the repo there
[18:43] <wiiguy> wth now im not even getting a ip :/
[18:43] <GhostConn> dose anyone else have noise problems with their 2tb wd green hdd?
[18:43] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, that happens now, or after you purged the old install
[18:43] <linuxlion> hmm
[18:43] <linuxlion> oen sec
[18:44] <linuxlion> one*
[18:44] <KBentley57> GhostConn, ive had all kinds of trouble with those, they are garbage
[18:44] <wiiguy> k
[18:44] <GhostConn> i can tell i just bought it !!
[18:44] <AndyUbuntu> that was after i purged all of the gimp stuff
[18:44] <wiiguy> it now says "braodcast multicast" ...
[18:44] <GhostConn> less then 200+ boots and scratching noise already
[18:44] <GhostConn> western digital is garbage nothign but problems
[18:44] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, from the command line run "sudo apt-get purge gimp" and see if it cleans up anything else
[18:45] <KBentley57> GhostConn, i went through about 3 1-TB green drives
[18:45] <AndyUbuntu> thats the command i used a moment ago
[18:45] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, ok, and now you're trying to install gimp from cmd line, synaptic, or software center?
[18:46] <GhostConn> Ouch!! well im hopeing that it will last a while anyway it's just so annoing!!!... like you can barely hear it BUT I CAN!!! lol my gf tells me im crazy
[18:46] <AndyUbuntu> through synaptic at the moent
[18:46] <linuxlion> wiiguy: what is the host's OS?
[18:46] <nemik> hello, i cannot get my asus x101ch to boot from an Ubuntu USK disk. can anyone help?
[18:46] <AndyUbuntu> moment*
[18:46] <BlakJak> here's one... so I had to fiddle with my lvm mount sizes  and shrink a partition... now the superblock and the fat? disagree over how big the disk should be and the machine demanded a manual fsck on reboot.. how do I adjust this without toasting the partition?
[18:46] <GhostConn> it's like a small scratching sound especually when i copy mkv over in 100+GB files
[18:46] <nemik> i get the menu to boot from USB, but it just seems to skip it and go straight to the windows
[18:46] <GhostConn> plus it's on 5400rpm drive
[18:47] <GhostConn> to think I thought of the enviorment when purchasing
[18:47] <pizza-dude> hmm
[18:48] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, ok, and now you're trying to install gimp from cmd line, synaptic, or software center?
[18:48] <wiiguy1> seems the vm broke my internet connection
[18:48] <nemik> does Asus actively prevent USB booting somehow?
[18:48] <linuxlion> wiiguy: what is your host and guest OS?
[18:49] <wiiguy1> host : windows 7 ultimate guest : ubuntu server  10.04.04
[18:49] <linuxlion> ahh... what services did you install when installing ubuntu server
[18:50] <wiiguy1> only ssh
[18:50] <linuxlion> hmm.. can try manually assigning card information
[18:51] <linuxlion> i guess the card shows up as eth0?
[18:51] <wiiguy1> yes
[18:51] <GhostConn> I have been reading allot from the wd website and they claim that their green series drives can produce up to 29-32db when in idle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:51] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, this is generally what i receive when i try to install http://pastebin.com/zqHxk9f2
[18:51] <wiiguy1> but i will give it a shot
[18:51] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, sorry was installing it through software centre
[18:52] <GhostConn> this is 100% normal due to the low rpm of the drive... the drive idles at just under 2000rpm creating the platter to wobble
[18:52] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, have you tried installing those dependencies?
[18:52] <wiiguy1> brb
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> i need to install them speratly but unable to find them
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> the packages just are not those versions
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> some of the,
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> them*
[18:54] <Fed> I install ubuntu on a harddrive that i took out of my netbook. Has this happened to anyone else?
[18:54] <K-4U> Okay.. i have an AVI file and want to burn this to a dvd.. also, i want to do this on a headless system
[18:54] <Fed> and it stopped spinning
[18:54] <AndyUbuntu> really sorry i must go in a sec somethin
[18:54] <nibbler_> Fed, i'd say thats not associated to the ubuntu install
[18:54] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for your assistance
[18:55] <GhostConn> anyone have a review on the hitachi deskstar 4tb..
[18:55] <GhostConn> worth it ?
[18:55] <Fed> is it possible that i fried the drive when i went to put it back into the netbook?
[18:55] <BrianH> Hey guys
[18:55] <mike_> mopar
[18:55] <GhostConn> the only thing the drive will be holding is mkv
[18:56] <BrianH> Anyone know why my Razer Naga elite causes a TON of lag on my system?
[18:56] <bartek> Hi there. If I have a machine on Intrepid (don't ask), is there a right way to get the latest versions of Apache from launchpad onto it?
[18:56] <nischayn22> hello I am having problem installing phpunit with ubuntu 12.04
[18:56] <BrianH> I thought it was the graphics drivers at first, because Windows would really lag when dragging them ... Then I found a comment from someone saying it was because of their mouse.
[18:57] <BrianH> So I tested it, and it works.  When I put a different mouse on the system, the lag is gone.
[18:57] <BrianH> windows as in application windows, not M$
[18:58] <GhostConn> you're mouse is a high end gaming mouse.. it more then likely came with a driver not just plug and play
[18:58] <GhostConn> ?
[18:58] <BrianH> Yes, it's the Razer Naga Elite.
[18:58] <GhostConn> unsupported sorry
[18:59] <GhostConn> i had so many problems with my g15 series 3 keyboard
[18:59] <GhostConn> disgusting lol
[18:59] <BrianH> Why would it be unsupported?  I'm only using it for point and click.  I'm not even using the built-in numpad
[19:00] <GhostConn> because it's not built on a plug and play interface it is but it's not...that mouse has a particular driver to embed calibration for better performance
[19:00] <GhostConn> thats why its so laggy
[19:00] <GhostConn> uncalibrated
[19:00] <GhostConn> hence why its a gaming mouse
[19:00] <SegF4ult> hey, short question
[19:01] <GhostConn> ?
[19:01] <SegF4ult> on Ubuntu 11.10, with Unity, how do I disable the sleep mode button
[19:01] <SegF4ult> ?
[19:01] <SegF4ult> I find myself hitting it way too often by accident
[19:01] <BrianH> SegF4ult, download MyUnity
[19:01] <BrianH> I believe MyUnity has an option to disable all that.
[19:02] <GhostConn> go under power managment setting and choose do nothign
[19:02] <wiiguy> meh im just gona install vmware again, works much better :/
[19:02] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: it doesn't ahve options for the buttons there, it seems
[19:02] <GhostConn> hmm,....
[19:03] <GhostConn> Hit Alt+F2 and type gconf-editor. Then go to apps -> gnome-power-manager -> buttons. Edit the value for the suspend button and type "nothing". The sleep key should stop working now.
[19:03] <GhostConn> i hope that helps
[19:04] <sepoki> can anyone here help me to install KTECHLAB ?
[19:04] <sepoki> there isnt package in repository
[19:05] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: there's no gnome-power-manager entry there either ^^
[19:06] <bartek> Hi there. If I have a machine on Intrepid (don't ask), is there a right way to get the latest versions of Apache from launchpad onto it, without doing a full distro upgrade?
[19:07] <tomvolek> HI I just installed Ubuntu 11.10  and I dont see Synaptic packet manager, where can I find it
[19:07] <zykotick9> bartek: your system is unsupported - see "/msg ubottu eol" for details on upgrading
[19:08] <zykotick9> tomvolek: use apt-get or U.S.C. to install it (it's been removed)
[19:08] <GhostConn> SegF4ult: bare with me im googleing the problem for you I have never done this before
[19:09] <tomvolek> zykotick9  do you know the apt apackage name ?
[19:09] <zykotick9> !info synaptic
[19:09] <zykotick9> tomvolek: "sudo apt-get install synaptic" should work
[19:09] <tomvolek> tx
[19:10] <ubuntu> hi all sorry for the name im running live, Q). i have a .exe archive that im trying to extract but it needs a password so archive manager wont extract, any clues?
[19:10] <GhostConn> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/07/from-windows-to-ubuntu-turn-off-sleep-mode/
[19:10] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: I'm googling as well
[19:10] <GhostConn> follow those instruction
[19:10] <GhostConn> SegF4ult   http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/07/from-windows-to-ubuntu-turn-off-sleep-mode/
[19:11] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: I already have those disabled, but that doesn't stop XF86Sleep from doing what it is bound to at the moment
[19:11] <GhostConn> thats is so weird!
[19:12] <GhostConn> do you have any third party apps installed that may have control over that
[19:12] <GhostConn> advance system settings ect...
[19:12] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: no third party apps whatsoever
[19:12] <GhostConn> ... hmm
[19:12] <moonshadow> Hello
[19:12] <GhostConn> well as you can see im the only one helping you lol give me a few more lol
[19:13] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: it's okay ^^
[19:13] <moonshadow> I'm testing Ubuntu Precise Beta 1, and can't use sudo because it appears to freeze.
[19:13] <Pici> moonshadow : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:14] <moonshadow> Pici, ah, I didn't know that exists, thanks
[19:14] <GhostConn> haha try this
[19:14] <GhostConn> http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/
[19:14] <GhostConn> i beleive that will work it did on my desktop lopl
[19:15] <GhostConn> let me know
[19:15] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: nope, saw that already
[19:16] <alo21> Are there any ubuntu certificated courses?
[19:17] <GhostConn> well then ... lol
[19:18] <lucusoid> Hi everyone... Running ubuntu on usb stick and I am very impressed! It is very portable and runs on every computer I have tried so far. Searching for a way to install Nvidia drivers. Is there a possibility to create an rcS script to automatically set the right glx alternative once an nvidia card is detected at boot?
[19:18] <monohedron_> does anybody know a simple and quick way of converting MP4 files into AVI?
[19:18] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+question/168574
[19:18] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: that should work
[19:18] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: force a rebind through xmodmap
[19:18] <GhostConn> thats so funnnny
[19:18] <GhostConn> i just copied that link from ym url for u
[19:19] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: there's something in the comments there
[19:20] <GhostConn> I already have it disabled with my desktop
[19:20] <GhostConn> terminal command worked for me
[19:20] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: now I need to know how to load the xmodmap configuration on system bootup
[19:21] <GhostConn> one problem im having if someone can help me out is black boot screens/splash screens... I have even installed splash screen manager and tried numerous of the extra splash screens however they work when i log out but not during boot up
[19:22] <state> Hi! I'm running 11.1 on an EC2 instance and just noticed that my boot.log has grown to be enormous. I was thinking of using log rotate to deal with it: but found some cautionary tales about that. I'm wondering: what's the best way to deal with boot.log? Can I just put the tail of it in a new file? It doesn't appear to be flooding because of any constant errors.
[19:23] <OU818> !list
[19:24] <oj_> can you tell me the correct usage of the following command sudo apt-install git
[19:24] <oj_> I get this error: sudo: apt-install: command not found
[19:24] <state> apt-get install
[19:24] <netzapper> we're about to build a datacenter. It needs to be in place by first week of April. Normally, I'd just stick 10.04LTS on the boxes and call it a day. But 12.04LTS comes out in a month. Clearly, I can't wait until then to complete the project... but, am I better installing 11.x and updating to 12.04 as it becomes available, or installing 10.04LTS and upgrading when 12.04 is out?
[19:24] <SegF4ult> oj_: sudo apt-get install git
[19:24] <oj_> thank you very much :)
[19:25] <SegF4ult> oj_: you're welcome
[19:25] <alo21> can someone help me?
[19:26] <netzapper> alo21: no, you are all alone.
[19:26] <SegF4ult> alo21: I can try
[19:26] <alo21> netzapper: ahaha... you are so funny :)
[19:26] <SegF4ult> alo21: what seems to be wrong?
[19:27] <oj_> what is the usage of git?
[19:27] <alo21> SegF4ult: I would like to be expert using ubuntu/linux
[19:27] <SegF4ult> oj_: hold on a sec
[19:27] <office_it_guy201> Hello again Ubuntu channel, I have a difficult external monitor issue, and could really use your help
[19:27] <oj_> ok
[19:27] <alo21> SegF4ult: so I am wondering if there is some ubuntu certificste course
[19:27] <SegF4ult> oj_: http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2007/09/git-cheat-sheet.html there you go
[19:27] <netzapper> oj_: the usage of 'git' is something that takes up an entire manual. http://www.vogella.de/articles/Git/article.html
[19:28] <oj_> SegF4ult, netzapper: Thank you very much
[19:28] <SegF4ult> alo21: being an expert on ubuntu/linux takes a lot of time, and the way you do things is just by doing things
[19:28] <office_it_guy201> Here's the situation: I have a bunch of Thinkpad T420s machines. Some of them recognize external monitors (connected via Displayport) immediately after installation, with the BIOS set to default settings.
[19:28] <office_it_guy201> Others of the same model (T420s), I simply cannot figure out how to make them work
[19:28] <SegF4ult> oj_: that's a basic, and netzapper has it right, you should try a proper manual as well
[19:28] <office_it_guy201> I've tried installing nvidia drivers, editing the bios to discrete graphics, and everything that other people mentioned
[19:29] <office_it_guy201> The only difference between these T420s models that I can tell is the working one is an i5 while the non-working ones are i7
[19:30] <alo21> SegF4ult: ok... and what book do you suggest?
[19:30] <office_it_guy201> does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:30] <SegF4ult> alo21: well, there's plenty of git manuals around
[19:31] <SegF4ult> alo21: I liked this one: http://git-scm.com/documentation
[19:32] <netzapper> no advice from anybody on whether to install a bunch of new servers with 10.04LTS or 11.10, given the eminent coming of 12.04LTS?
[19:33] <netzapper> ...not even, like, an unfounded opinion based only on personal prejudice and bias?
[19:33] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys, im trying to change the default "ubuntu" purple boot image on startup. any idea how to change it?
[19:33] <Praxi> well in that case, why woudn't you do 11.10
[19:34] <Praxi> T3CHKOMMIE, ubuntu tweak
[19:34] <Praxi> its in the repositories
[19:34] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, did you hear my update on the monitor thing? I'd like your opinion on what's going on
[19:34] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, awesome ill give it a shot, is it a pretty simple gui?
[19:34] <Praxi> ya easy enough I could understand it T3CHKOMMIE
[19:34] <Praxi> I didn't, let me scroll office_it_guy201
[19:34] <office_it_guy201> thank you
[19:35] <edelweize> can you please help me?
[19:35] <office_it_guy201> long story short is everything works perfect out of the box on an i5 T420s and not at all on an i7 T420s
[19:35] <Praxi> how many are working?
[19:35] <Praxi> more than 1?
[19:35] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, I cant seem to find it in the repos. apt-get install ubuntu-tweal?
[19:35] <GhostConn> can someone help me resolve my black splash screen with 11:10... i have even tried splash screen manager with numerous diferent splash screens however they only work when i shutdown not boot up
[19:35] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, I cant seem to find it in the repos. apt-get install ubuntu-tweak* sorry
[19:35] <GhostConn> i get a black screen for a bout 20sec during boot
[19:35] <Praxi> tweak, hang on T3CHKOMMIE let me go look
[19:36] <magma> it is possible to set vars inside vars in /etc/environment ?
[19:36] <Praxi> oh wait, not in the repositories T3CHKOMMIE, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[19:36] <magma> like doing PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin
[19:37] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, do ALL of the i5's work?
[19:37] <office_it_guy201> let me see if I have another one to test on
[19:37] <office_it_guy201> here's what I did:
[19:37] <Praxi> my first guess would be bios update
[19:37] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, awsome! thanks for the link!
[19:37] <office_it_guy201> I had a working i5 T420s, all external monitors worked without issue
[19:38] <office_it_guy201> I took the drive out of the i7 T420s (the one that I had installed and re-installed and changed drivers, etc), and put it in the i5 T420s
[19:38] <office_it_guy201> then erased everything and installed 11.10 again
[19:38] <office_it_guy201> and poof, no problem whatsoever, everything works
[19:39] <klync> in unity, what is alt-backtick supposed to do? bc i press it out of habit, it doesn't do what i expect, and what my screen does scares me off from experimenting
[19:39] <office_it_guy201> I have no remaining i5 machines, just a stack of i7s
[19:39] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, but the drive DIDNT work until you erased it? or did you try it before erasing?
[19:39] <office_it_guy201> let me think about that...
[19:39] <Praxi> I would still vote for a i7 bios update though office_it_guy201 :)
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> yesterday, I took the SDD out of the i5 (which worked perfectly) and put it in the i7
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> it would not connect to monitors
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> then I put it back in the i5, and it worked fine
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> bios update, eh? how do I do that
[19:40] <Praxi> what about a i7 drive in the i5?
[19:40] <Praxi> WITHOUT erasing it first?
[19:41] <Jay_Man> office_it-guy201:  I just caught the tail end of your conversation about the T420s... that's what I'm on now, what's the problem?
[19:41] <office_it_guy201> the problem is that my i7 T420s models do not connect to external monitors via the display port, regardless of what I try
[19:41] <office_it_guy201> while my i5 T420s connects no problem with a fresh install
[19:42] <Jay_Man> Ahh, sorry - I'm i5, no i7.  That's messed up though...
[19:42] <sazawal> I am not able to install pulseaudio-module-jack in ubuntu 10.10
[19:42] <sazawal> help!!
[19:42] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/research/hints-or-tips/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-77167  check that page for bios updates, looks like the latest is 1.37, see what your i7's are running bios wise
[19:43] <Jay_Man> Did you try it in 12.04 yet?  Does it do the same thing?  No idea why the OS would differ, unless the external port isn't the same hardware.
[19:43] <Madkiss> hi there. I installed a ubuntu system via debootstrap and when booting into it, I don't get a tty. Instead, I see something that looks like the system is trying to start X11, but I am left with a unusable system after that, because the system hangs
[19:43] <Praxi> !ask | edelweize
[19:43] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I'm going to install 11.10 on a drive in the i7, then move it to the i5 and see what happens
[19:43] <Praxi> my guess would be that it works
[19:43] <office_it_guy201> will update in a few
[19:43] <office_it_guy201> that will imply it's a bios thing, right?
[19:43] <klync> Madkiss: did you try ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[19:43] <Jay_Man> Bios, or the hardware differs slightly in the i7 model.
[19:43] <Praxi> that would imply hardware, which probably means bios :)
[19:44] <Jay_Man> Its not unheard of.
[19:44] <klync> Madkiss: also, try toggling numlock; that's a great way to tell if the machine is truly hung
[19:44] <magma> it is possible to set vars inside vars in /etc/environment ?
[19:45] <magma> it is possible to set vars inside vars in /etc/environment ? like PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin
[19:45] <noaXess> hey all
[19:45] <Madkiss> klync: let's see
[19:45] <DominikSt> hi
[19:45] <kesi> Do you have to install Java WebStart separately from JRE and JDK on 11.10? Since re-install, I can't launch jnlp files
[19:45] <edelweize> do you know how to overcome fake process
[19:45] <noaXess> how do i adjust font size in thunderbird/firefox on unity?
[19:46] <noaXess> and how to disable join/part messages in empathy ;)
[19:46] <Praxi_Lunch> edelweize, you mean like a process that is hung?
[19:46] <noaXess> and how to move the notification bubble to another place ..
[19:46] <Madkiss> klync: ctrl-alt-f1 has no effect, and this netbook doesn't have numlock ;)
[19:46] <Fyodorovna> noaXess, if your talking about the font size in the actual email it is in edit-preferences
[19:47] <noaXess> Fyodorovna: you mean in thunderbird?
[19:47] <Praxi_Lunch> edelweize, gotta run, if you are talking hung process, system monitor will help you 'kill' them http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/5-system-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu/.  Or lookup the kill command itself
[19:47] <edelweize> I do not understand. This is only a college assignment from my lecturer
[19:48] <Fyodorovna> noaXess, you asked about fonts in Thunderbird specifically.
[19:48] <klync> Madkiss: but you can see grub load when it boots, right? try passing the kernel param to only enter runlevel 1
[19:48] <noaXess> Fyodorovna: the look and feel..
[19:48] <noaXess> of the app itself
[19:49] <Madkiss> klync: i can see grub, yes. I can also see many kernel messages
[19:49] <edelweize> this as a process running on the system copies. / backdoor, and when the check ps-ax into "usr / sbin / httpd"
[19:51] <Fyodorovna> noaXess, the overall font is attached to the system font.
[19:51] <s0krates> Hello I was hoping I could get help for a unity error I made. I installed compiz and ran the command 'compiz --replace' and now unity is broken. Any ideas?
[19:51] <noaXess> aha
[19:51] <noaXess> Fyodorovna: ok.. test that
[19:52] <skiphuffman> Actually, trying it now
[19:52] <Xabster> I'd like some sort of launcher but I can't remember the name of the one I liked
[19:53] <tyler_d> Xabster: rocket?
[19:53] <Xabster> no
[19:53] <tyler_d> Xabster: grenade
[19:53] <Xabster> it's not a "bar"
[19:53] <Xabster> it's a search box
[19:53] <Xabster> where i can write "Sk" and skype shows up
[19:53] <Xabster> and i click enter
[19:53] <guest198394> Hi Can anyone read this?
[19:53] <Xabster> or C for chrome, E for eclipse
[19:53] <tyler_d> guest198394: no
[19:54] <tyler_d> Xabster: have you tried the default one you can add?
[19:54] <guest198394> ok good.. I changed my nick I guess now it could be read
[19:54] <guest198394> I was hoping to get help with a unity error..
[19:54] <Xabster> tyler_d, nope, what's it called?
[19:54] <guest198394> I installed compiz and ran the command 'compiz --replace'
[19:54] <edelweize> do you know how to overcome "fake process"?
[19:54] <edelweize> I do not understand. This is only a college assignment from my lecturer
[19:54] <guest198394> ever since then when I log in the window manager doesn't even start up
[19:54] <edelweize> this as a process running on the system copies. / backdoor, and when the check ps-ax into "usr / sbin / httpd"
[19:55] <edelweize> ??
[19:55] <Jordan_U> s0enke: We could read your messages with your previous nick as well. If nobody has an answer to your question though, then nobody will answer.
[19:55] <guest198394> I'm wondering, is there anything I could do to revert that?
[19:55] <tyler_d> Xabster: I am pretty sure you can add to the icons... I appologize though I don't know the name
[19:55] <guest198394> That's fine, I just wasn't sure it could be read.
[19:55] <Xabster> aight, no problem, tyler_d, i'll keep looking
[19:55] <Xabster> i used to have it on super+space
[19:56] <Xabster> feel so crippled without it
[19:58] <Xabster> tyler_d, i think i'm mis-using the word launcher since i'm not talking about such a bar with shortcuts
[19:58] <Xabster> can anyone tell me what those kind of apps are called?
[19:58] <tyler_d> Xabster: ahhh.
[19:58] <tyler_d> Xabster: a search bar?
[19:58] <Madkiss> klync: With "rescue nomodeset" kernel parameters, the system hangs, too, right after some udevd-inotify-related messages. the last thing I see is "done."
[19:58] <tyler_d> Xabster: quick-launch bar?
[19:58] <Xabster> the ones where you hits a key-combo and a search box comes up where you search for installed programs
[19:58] <Xabster> yes
[19:58] <Xabster> something like that
[19:58] <Xabster> search bar
[19:58] <FloodBot1> Xabster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <delerium> package operation failure, please go here for details http://paste.ubuntu.com/894168/
[20:00] <Xabster> it's kinda like Unity's Dash-thingy, tyler_d
[20:00] <stiltzkin> Hello folks, hoping someone can help me understand why GRUB is not getting installed to my MBR. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my HP Elitebook 8560w. The installation runs perfectly fine, but when I reboot I get the message "Boot Device Not Found. Please install an operating system on your hard disk." I assume that means the bootloader is not getting installed correctly. Any help with this would be extremely helpful.
[20:00] <klync> Madkiss: try this: http://www.brunolinux.com/05-Configuring_Your_System/Grub_boot_runlevel-3.html
[20:01] <klync> Madkiss: if you can get to a prompt, then it's just your X, and that might be fixable. if not, maybe it's whatever comes after udev in startup (i don't know offhand)
[20:01] <Madkiss> klync: given that I installed with debootstrap, I would think that no X is installed ;)
[20:02] <skywalker91> hey can any one help me
[20:02] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Why are you trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 11.10?
[20:03] <klync> Madkiss: i have no idea what debootstrap is, but you said " I see something that looks like the system is trying to start X11 ...", so I went off that
[20:03] <Madkiss> ah, okay
[20:03] <Madkiss> well, I'll do some more fiddling then
[20:03] <skywalker91> hey can any one help me
[20:03] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I need some of the legacy software in 10.10 (including GNOME 2.x). But this same issue applies with Ubuntu 11.x as well as Fedora 16. Something is obviously wrong because it's not getting to GRUB at all.
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Madkiss: klync: Ubuntu uses grub2, and with Upstart "runlevel 3" is equivalent to runlevel 5. So that guide is not particularly relevant.
[20:04] <klync> Jordan_U: thanks. still not used to this upstart shenanigans
[20:04] <hiexpo> skywalker91, just ask your ? don't ask to ask a ?
[20:05] <delerium> package operation failure, please go here for details http://paste.ubuntu.com/894168/
[20:05] <skywalker91> hey i've installed ubuntu after i've finished installation i restarted my pc but it goes along to windows 7 without permiting me to chose ubuntu
[20:05] <skywalker91> help please folks
[20:06] <hiexpo> skywalker91, so you installed ubuntu as a dual boot ?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Ubuntu 10.10 will only be supported for another month. Can you not use XFCE or GNOME3 fallback? Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | stiltzkin
[20:06] <Jordan_U> skywalker91: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[20:06] <skywalker91> yes i choosed install it with windows and chose betwen them at start up
[20:07] <skywalker91> yes i have 2 but i installed it on the same HDD that has windows 7
[20:07] <Jordan_U> skywalker91: Try changing the boot order in your BIOS.
[20:08] <skywalker91> into what
[20:08] <skywalker91> change hard drives order or overal order
[20:08] <Jordan_U> skywalker91: To boot from whatever drive *isn't* currently set as the first boot drive.
[20:08] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I don't care about official support, and I do not want to use GNOME3, XFCE, or any other DE with this installation. But that is besides the point - the installation of any Linux distro seems to fail installing GRUB. This is a very frustrating issue; it means I cannot install any OS
[20:09] <skywalker91> ok
[20:09] <hiexpo> he said he installed it on the same drive as windows 7
[20:09] <skywalker91> i'll try and feed u back in minutes
[20:10] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I understand this issue may not be specific to Ubuntu but I'm not sure where else to ask. I was hoping someone would know more about this. There is a bug filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/864739
[20:10] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Like I said, please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[20:11] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I will try doing that from livecd, if that works. I cannot get to my hard drive install.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: It does work from a LiveCD.
[20:13] <Madkiss> Jordan_U, klync: Whatever was wrong -- after "tasksel install standard", it works ...
[20:13] <klync> Madkiss: woot!
[20:14] <Madkiss> i guess the good old days where one could just do "debootstrap oneiric foobar" are over ;)
[20:14] <w30> \
[20:15] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I just installed 11.10 on the i7, then switched the SSD to the i5
[20:15] <office_it_guy201> it works
[20:15] <office_it_guy201> so it's a bios thing, I suppose
[20:15] <Madkiss> some people might think that I am somewhat oldschool. And boy I am ;)
[20:16] <skywalker91> hey i've tried changing boot irder but nothing happened
[20:17] <josvuk> I'm serarchin in etc where xorg is started so I type grep xorg /etc/*.* but get only grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No such file or directory
[20:17] <skywalker91> hey help please
[20:18] <tata> how to get new gnu grub for ubuntu and windows?
[20:19] <skywalker91> I've installed Ubuntu as a dual boot alongside windows but after restart pc goes directly to windows i was a advised to change boot order but nothing happens
[20:19] <Madkiss> oh, I was happy too early.
[20:19] <Madkiss> still doesn't work.
[20:20] <josvuk> maybe apt-get, update-manager
[20:20] <skywalker91> I've installed Ubuntu as a dual boot alongside windows but after restart pc goes directly to windows i was a advised to change boot order but nothing happens
[20:21] <ohs> I would like to assign a static IP. I set the following configurations http://pastebin.com/2t1rMsQg        when I type /etc/init.d/networking restart   the IP has not changed the pc still gets the IP from dhcp. can anyone tell me what I do wrong?
[20:22] <josvuk> how to start in singleuser using yaboot?
[20:22] <itaylor57> ohs, i believe it is now sudo service networking restart
[20:22] <ohs> I type the commands as root
[20:23] <hexacode> anyone know any software for centos that lets me install ubuntu on flash drive? or any debian based software that will do it.
[20:23] <skywalker91> can i get help people
[20:23] <itaylor57> ohs, then as root service networking restart, its the new upstart way
[20:23] <hackerdecalculad> Hola, como estas?
[20:23] <klync> skywalker91: have you read through this, carefully? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:23] <hackerdecalculad> Gente que hable en Español?
[20:23] <itaylor57> !es | hackerdecalculad
[20:24] <josvuk> sorry, man grub No manual entry for grub
[20:24] <ohs> itaylor57: I am not familiar with linux, what do you suggest me? what command should I write or what do I need to fix on the command?
[20:25] <hackerdecalculad> Okey, thanks.
[20:25] <dan3son> Trying to use bash
[20:26] <dan3son> sudo bash myscript
[20:26] <dan3son> 'killall mediatomb' prints ':no process found'
[20:26] <dan3son> Yet sudo killall mediatomb from the ssh console works?
[20:27] <itaylor57> ohs, in a terminal type "service network restart" without the quotes, and what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:28] <ohs> it is angstroms distribution, not ubuntu. I guessed the usage should be the same, doesnt it?
[20:28] <itaylor57> ohs, i have no idea, this is ubuntu only support here
[20:28] <josvuk> dan3son can you paste myscript?
[20:28] <ohs> ok thanks
[20:29] <AcidRain> under ubuntu i have an ftp server running under the user ftpuser.  how should i modify my files that any ftpuser can access certain files, yet at the same time, my rhythmbox program can also access them under the username acidrain?
[20:29] <AcidRain> im having the issue of 550 file or directory not found. which is caused by a permissions issue
[20:30] <Pici> AcidRain: Place both users in the same group and then grant that group read access to the files.
[20:30] <loptr> hi
[20:31] <AcidRain> Pici: but acidrain is part of sudoers
[20:31] <AcidRain> well...
[20:31] <AcidRain> er... this is getting confusing
[20:31] <ssta> group isn't the same as user
[20:32] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: I need to leave very soon. Will you have the boot info script results soon?
[20:32] <dan3son> Here's my script
[20:32] <dan3son> http://pastebin.com/BJz3UQG0
[20:32] <AcidRain> ok. so group right now is "acidrain", where can i grant these permissions to read only access?
[20:33] <ssta> dan3son: why are you running that as root?
[20:33] <Pici> AcidRain: You could either set the ownership of the file to acidrain:whatevergrouptheftpuserisin  or for easier understanding and full compatibility of what you currently have, add ftpuser and acidrain to a group and then chown that file/path to acidrain:thatgroup
[20:33] <itaylor57> AcidRain, create a new group and grant yourself and the ftpuser access to that new group and chmod the dirs
[20:33] <Madkiss> klync: apparently, I need to set the "nomodeset" boot parameter
[20:33] <Madkiss> I wonder what might be missing
[20:33] <dan3son> ssta, well in the ssh console I cannot kill it without sudoing
[20:33] <Jordan_U> dan3son: I would get rid of the '-f', it shouldn't be needed and is generally a bad idea to include where not needed.
[20:34] <dan3son> So I figured the script would need the saame
[20:34] <ssta> dan3son: who owns the mediatomb processes?
[20:34] <dan3son> 'mediatomb' I believe, if started at boot
[20:35] <dan3son> If I do it manually after killing it by 'mediatomb -d' (daemon), I believe it runs under my own user
[20:35] <dsenator> hi all, I need to find the equivalent of some excel tools in libre office calc
[20:35] <dsenator> i need Developer where I can use the Spin function
[20:35] <AcidRain> Pici: itaylor57thanks. im pretty sure i just fixed my issue.
[20:36] <dsenator> I also need the Evolvertool
[20:36] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I just downloaded the BIOS upgrade disc, attempted to run it on an i7, and it said no update is necessary.
[20:36] <AcidRain> wow. that was easy. looks like it really is fixed. thanks! i been messing with this for months!
[20:36] <office_it_guy201> I think I'm screwed.
[20:36] <AcidRain> :/
[20:36] <llutz> dsenator: maybe better to ask in #libreoffice
[20:37] <ssta> dan3son: hmm...only thing that should be run sudo then is the killall... and debug by adding -i to killall to be sure that it's doing what you think it is
[20:37] <dsenator> anyone pls
[20:37] <ohs> what does it mean? ifup: misplaced option "ifdown(8)"
[20:37] <dsenator> I need to know what linux tool does ther functions of Developer and Evolver tools in Excel
[20:37] <dan3son> Hmm. I turned it into verbose
[20:38] <dan3son> The output is strange
[20:38] <dan3son> http://pastebin.com/HnTm8SC1
[20:38] <dan3son> It reports its killed it, but it doesn't appear to actually do that
[20:39] <ssta> dan3son: that's correct
[20:39] <ssta> dan3son: you told it to kill it with SIGHUP.  That doesn't kill it, it tells it to reload its configuration
[20:39] <dan3son> Remove the -HUP?
[20:39] <ssta> dan3son: well, what are you trying to do exactly?
[20:40] <dan3son> I want to kill the process, destroy its database, then restart it
[20:40] <ssta> dan3son: then use killall -15
[20:40] <ssta> dan3son: there's nothing in your script to restart it
[20:41] <Code_Factory> hello
[20:41] <Dulak> dan3son: you want -TERM not -HUP
[20:41] <c_smith> well, this is fun..... my desktop keeps crashing after a short time of booting up, sometimes with a kernel panic, other times with just a stack trace always involving kworker. is there anyone who can help me with this? (I'm typing this from my laptop)
[20:41] <dan3son> ssta, haven't got there yet :)
[20:41] <Code_Factory> I', trying to download ubuntu but it says 32-bit recommended and I'm on a 64-bit machine, any advise or reasons?
[20:42] <c_smith> Code_Factory, how much RAM do you have?
[20:42] <llutz> Code_Factory: ignore it, get amd64
[20:42] <AcidRain> you can use 32bit on a 64bit machine. just not 64 on a 32
[20:42] <c_smith> in other words memory
[20:42] <Code_Factory> 3 GB
[20:42] <Dulak> Code_Factory: it always recommends 32 bit, because that is the most compatible version
[20:42] <ssta> dan3son: okay.  Well, use -15 and it will (probably) die.  (although a process isn't obliged to die on a SIGTERM, most will behave themselves)
[20:43] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: I know.. thanx :) I'm just trying to get the best performance
[20:43] <c_smith> then 32-bit should work just as well as 64-bit, the only benefit I've found is if you have over 3 GB.
[20:43] <c_smith> as 32-bit only supports up to 3 GB.
[20:43] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: well i use a 64bit ubuntu.  and i would say im very pleased with it. my advice is to get 11.04 if you hate unity.
[20:43] <Code_Factory> c_smitch: thnx for the tip..
[20:43] <itaylor57> Code_Factory, get the 64 bit, not 32
[20:43] <c_smith> no prob
[20:44] <Dulak> c_smith: to be accurate it is 2.6-2.8g depending on your bios
[20:44] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: hmm what is unity?
[20:44] <c_smith> Dulak, duly noted.
[20:44] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, did you take the i7 hard drive and plop it in the i5 and it worked?
[20:44] <office_it_guy201> yes, that worked
[20:44] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: sorry. im acutally using 10.04 LTS lucid linux
[20:44] <Code_Factory> you guys think I'll have a problem with virtulization
[20:44] <ssta> c_smith: umm...32bit Ubuntu will support up to 64G
[20:44] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: unity is a horrible desktop interface that trys to copy windows
[20:45] <Praxi> none of my versions of windows look like unity
[20:45] <c_smith> ssta, ah, my info must be outdated then.
[20:45] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: thnx.. but no thnx :D
[20:45] <AcidRain> fortunately, 10.04 was the last release (that i know of) that uses the classic gnome2 desktop
[20:45] <Praxi> looks more like mac with the menu bars being at thet op
[20:45] <Praxi> top*
[20:45] <Code_Factory> ok.. another question, what happens if I install lucid Lynx!! I already have a copy
[20:45] <Dulak> When did they make bigmem the default?
[20:46] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: well i get updates still. and i am very pleased with it. very fast desktop
[20:46] <AcidRain> then again, i have quadcore with 8gig memory :)
[20:46] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: Nice ;) anyway, I can't opt out of unity with 11.10 and just use gnome / kde
[20:46] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[20:47] <ssta> Dulak: I think in lucid.  The installer detects the amount of RAM and uses the pae kernel if required
[20:47] <c_smith> well, I still have the code dump on my screen, it does indeed have mentions of Khelper, kthread and kernel_thread_helper.
[20:47] <Dulak> ssta: nice
[20:47] <c_smith> so something has had to have gone wrong with the kernel, right?
[20:47] <ssta> Might have been maverick, but I think it was lucid that it started doing it
[20:47] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: there is a gnome/kde package in repos for 11.04 and up. but... you will be very sad when you see the poor attempt to make gnome run under unity
[20:47] <delerium> can someone help me with 'package operation fail'? details here http://paste.ubuntu.com/894250/
[20:47] <c_smith> I get a similar problem from livecd.
[20:48] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: it will take alot more  modifications to a unity desktop to make it look like gnome than what you think. i had horrible crying experience in which i stayed up late, did bad drugs, and cut myself
[20:48] <AcidRain> :)
[20:49] <c_smith> is there someone who can help me, or another channel that this belongs in?
[20:49] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: thnx a million you've been a gr8 deal of help
[20:49] <Code_Factory> buy guys
[20:50] <AcidRain> yay i helped someone.
[20:50]  * AcidRain goes to sleep
[20:50] <c_smith> and just for details: the only modification I made to the desktop was fixing my 3 RAM sticks so they were fully inserted.
[20:50] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, try ubuntu 10.10?  lots of other tasty bits in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728526&page=3
[20:50] <c_smith> should I repeat my problem?
[20:51] <lusuhard> hello, problem of installation of my canon pixma mx 320, ubuntu 10.04 lts, amd 64, drivers installed with --force-architecture
[20:53] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I'll try that. Although I need some features in 11.10, it'd be nice to see this work.
[20:54] <office_it_guy201> very frustrating than an OLDER version of the T420s model works while the newer one doesn't.
[20:55] <Praxi> on page 3 of that thread was more interesting stuff people did to make it work for HD3000
[20:59] <c_smith> I'm getting kernel panics and at other times what seems to be kernel crash dumps, and I have no idea what it means, or what I can do to fix it, is there any way I can fix this, or does this belong in another channel? each of the kernel crash dumps always include mentions of kthread_worker, kernel_thread_helper, and kthread.
[21:00] <GhostConn> OMG!!! this is driving me crazy how come when i minimize programs with ubuntu 11:10 they go to the cairodock dock at the bottom but when i try to maximize them from with the ubuntu dock on the left or the cairodock it wont reopen i have to close the app then reopen
[21:00] <GhostConn> DRIVING ME CRAZYYY
[21:00] <Oer> office_it_guy201, did you enable ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa ?? >>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/113686/ubuntu-11-10-wont-detect-drivers-for-intel-hd-graphics-3000
[21:01] <GhostConn> is there a way to change so minimized apps only go to cairo dock not the garbage ubuntu side pannel on the left
[21:03] <rebe> should I upgrade my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 LTS beta1 ?
[21:04] <ikonia> rebe: up to you
[21:04] <GhostConn> or dose anyone know the fix to a black splash screen? I have even installed splash screen manager and tried numerous different ones however they only seem to work when I shutdown and I get a black boot screen until login
[21:04] <Oer> rebe allways welcome to test the beta, and there is a special support channel :-)
[21:04] <dlentz> rebe, unless you have a really good reason, why risk it?
[21:04] <ssta> rebe: If there's something in it that you need that 11.10 doesn't have, then sure
[21:04] <rebe> I meant is that stable or wil crashh all the time, I wanna replace my 11.10 with that
[21:04] <Oer> lots of improvement ..
[21:05] <dlentz> GhostConn, what video driver are you using?
[21:05] <GhostConn> CCC
[21:05] <GhostConn> ati
[21:05] <GhostConn> ati 4870
[21:05] <dlentz> heh, that explains it
[21:05] <ssta> rebe: it will be released in like a month or so...why not wait?
[21:05] <GhostConn> ?
[21:05] <GhostConn> not possible with ati?
[21:05] <rebe> yea I think I will wait, thx guys
[21:06] <tata> I need command in terminal for new gnu grub?
[21:07] <dlentz> GhostConn, there are workarounds (goggle 'fglrx plymouth'
[21:07] <CFHowlett> tata   alt f2
[21:07] <GhostConn> ok thanks i will try
[21:07] <jlkkljh> when i booted ubuntu it said unable to handle kernel
[21:07] <CFHowlett> tata   wait, that's wrong.  sorry
[21:08] <tata> ok
[21:08] <tata> I wait
[21:08] <greenit> hi, i have a problem, but i dont really know where to ask or what to search for... i have an ubuntu-server and when i press the power-button, the server does, like if it boots, but it doesn't read anything from the harddisk, not even the grub... does any1 know why this problem occurs? after a few times turning the computer on and off, it can read from the harddisk, but i don't like to try 10 mins to 15 mins if it works when i want
[21:08] <greenit> to start the server...
[21:08] <dlentz> tata, what do you mean 'new grub'?
[21:08] <CFHowlett> tata  gnu and grub are two different things.
[21:08] <tata> ok let me explane...
[21:08] <dlentz> are you referring to 'update-grub' command?
[21:08] <ikonia> greenit: sounds like a hardware problem, contact the vendor
[21:09] <greenit> ikonia, k, thx
[21:09] <dlentz> greenit, i would check the bios to see if it is seeing the disk
[21:09] <deekay-mint> is it okay to ask Mint12 questions in here ?
[21:09] <tata> now, I have grub4dos and gnu grub for starting OS. I want only gnu grub
[21:09] <CFHowlett> !mint|deekay-mint
[21:10] <deekay-mint> cheers
[21:10] <ardian_> Hi im having a problem my laptop fan is always making noise even nothing is open, on win7 works perfectly
[21:10] <dan3son> How can I concatenate strings in bash?
[21:11] <tata> how to delete grub4dos in MBR?
[21:11] <dan3son> I.E. I want to take some file and put like .backupA on the end of the name
[21:11] <matt5> if I download the beta 12.04 and install it... and I keep periodically updating it, will I be okay with that -- in that when 12.04 gets released, I'll be up-to-date and won't have to do anything?
[21:11] <ikonia> matt5: depends what breaks
[21:11] <CFHowlett> tata   just reinstall grub - it'll write over whatever grub4dos is present
[21:11] <Kotus> dan3son, += ?
[21:12] <ikonia> matt5: why don't you just wait for the release, if you are not confident with how the upgrade process works, just wait for it to be released.
[21:12] <Kotus> FILENAME+=
[21:12] <matt5> ikonia: what're the chances? wouldn't it mostly be a safe bet?
[21:12] <ikonia> matt5: no, it's not a safe bet, that's why it's pre-release in beta software
[21:12] <matt5> ikonia: really impatient. But I guess I can wait until the second beta! end of march it is, I think
[21:12] <afidegnum> hello, how do I find the current name of the OS installed?
[21:12] <CFHowlett> afidegnum   lsb_release -a
[21:12] <ikonia> matt5: why wait for the second beta ? either do it (your problem) or don't
[21:13] <dlentz> !final matt5
[21:13] <afidegnum> ok
[21:13] <dlentz> !final | matt5
[21:13] <matt5> wow, beautiful, thanks man
[21:13] <Guest51253> exit
[21:13] <afidegnum> anyone knows an open source WHM system for Ubuntu>
[21:13] <afidegnum> ?
[21:14] <w30> a "safe bet" is an oxymoron. A bet deals with odds. Safe bet implys on odds.
[21:14] <tata> CFHowlett> what ic comand in terminal for reinstall grub?
[21:14] <w30> on/no
[21:14] <c_smith> has anyone seen my problem?
[21:15] <CFHowlett> !grub2|tata
[21:15] <dlentz> w30, 'safe' is a relative term (odds are significantly in your fave). sure bet is an oxymoron
[21:15] <CFHowlett> tata   see teh restoring grub portion of the tutorial
[21:15] <matt5> that's semantics, this world is not a booleanic black&white one, there are lots of "bets" to be taken everywhere, even though they may/may not seem like it
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[21:17] <dan3son> I guess I'm not getting it. It's still not working correctly
[21:17] <dan3son> http://pastebin.com/z1Gshd9J
[21:17] <ssta> dan3son: what are you trying to do?
[21:18] <w30> dlentz, heh, heh. If any bad chance exists it ain't safe especially if the stakes are astronomical.
[21:18] <erinaceus> Hey, I'm looking to safe the list of installed software, but im using a live disk, so deb --config thing is not an option. Is there another way to read it from the filesystem
[21:18] <ssta> erinaceus: dpkg --get-selections
[21:18] <dan3son> I'm trying to take a file path and concatenate it with a fixed string (like .backup.) and a command line parameter
[21:19] <erinaceus> ssta: As i said, that wont work unless i change root dir, but i'd rather not do that
[21:19] <c_smith> is there something that 3 perfectly good (checked for errors on memtest86, and none found) 1GB RAM sticks could do to cause constant kernel crashes and panics?
[21:19] <dan3son> So if I do like bash myscript A, it will copy some files to someFile.backup.A
[21:19] <c_smith> mind you, this is an old desktop that uses PC-3200 RAM that I am talking about.
[21:19] <ssta> dan3son: NFIL1=$(echo ${FIL1}.backup.${1}) # should be something close to that
[21:20] <erinaceus> dan3son: file="someFile.backup"$1; would be my guess
[21:20] <ssta> dan3son: there are a few ways to do it
[21:20] <guntbert> c_smith: how long did you run memtest on them? ALL tests?
[21:20] <dan3son> Thanks ssta
[21:20] <c_smith> not sure, but I ran each individually, then ran them all 3 at once.
[21:22] <guntbert> c_smith: in my experience errors show often in the tests #6 - #8 only
[21:22] <c_smith> well, I ran the default tests.
[21:23] <c_smith> and the default, if I remember correctly, included everything.
[21:24] <uyaffe_> Hi, need some help. can't fine MySQL Query Browser after upgrading my Ubuntu to version 12.04
[21:24] <ssta> c_smith: I'd try two sticks at a time, in all three combinations, and see if it fixes the problem.  The chances of more than one stick being bad are smaller imo
[21:24] <guntbert> c_smith: yes, did you run it for at least on complete set? or did you interrupt ?
[21:24]  * testerrror returns where he came from
[21:25] <ssta> uyaffe_: I imagine you'll have more success asking in #ubuntu+1
[21:25] <c_smith> guntbert, I ran it for the whole time for each individual one, and then all 3 at once.
[21:25] <uyaffe_> Thanks!
[21:25] <TorbenBeta> How can I bring the ls command to show me the number of items and their collective size?
[21:26] <guntbert> c_smith: I was asking because there is no "whole time" - it only stops when interrupted by you
[21:27] <c_smith> I stopped it after it had run all the tests once.
[21:27] <ssta> TorbenBeta: collective size, use the "du" command (-S to not count subdirs).  number of items: ls | wc -l
[21:28] <TorbenBeta> Thanks.
[21:29] <dominik> hello Ubuntu experts
[21:29] <douglaslucas> [Si]: I got the nvidia driver working last night through bumblebee :)
[21:29] <[Si]> douglaslucas!! nice one
[21:31] <ohs> I am a beginner in linux, I want to ask a very noob question. I am trying to follow an instruction and it says "in /etc/init.d create a script called fixnetwork
[21:31] <ohs> Contents of fixnetwork script:
[21:31] <ohs> #!/bin/sh
[21:31] <ohs> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:31] <ohs> cp /etc/resolv.ok /etc/resolv.conf"
[21:31] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <ohs> how can I create the script file
[21:31] <ohs> nano?
[21:31] <ohs> nano fixnetwork?
[21:32] <c_smith> so, I let memtest run all 9 tests each time, and no errors were found.
[21:32] <dominik> new install of 11.10, trying to set up vnc, I can connect but can only see empty desktop without any launch bar
[21:33] <bearded-sully> I have a dual boot set up with a shared storage partition, Win xp and Ubuntu Precise, I'm trying to change the default file locations of ubuntu to be in the storage partition, which I have auto mounting on boot already. any pointers? It's not how it used to be before unity...
[21:33] <CFHowlett> !precise|bearded-sully
[21:35] <guntbert> c_smith: in  that case I have no helpful idea, sorry
[21:35] <c_smith> ok
[21:35] <c_smith> so, in this case, this might be a bug, correct?
[21:35] <guntbert> !who | c_smith for the future
[21:37] <c_smith> guntbert, duly noted.
[21:38] <c_smith> well, I'm going to count the desktop as a loss until I can get it overhauled, then i'll test again.
[21:39] <c_smith> guntbert, thanks for at least trying, but as I said to pretty much nobody in general, I'm going to let the desktop sit until I get the money to overhaul it.
[21:39] <guntbert> c_smith: Good luck :-)
[21:39] <c_smith> thanks
[21:39] <goster> hello
[21:40] <CFHowlett> goster   greetings
[21:41] <nujabes> what is a good file encryption tool?
[21:41] <CFHowlett> nujabes   encryptfs
[21:42] <nujabes> CFHowlett thanks
[21:42] <CFHowlett> nujabes   have fun / be safe
[21:43] <nujabes> CFHowlett haha nothing dangerous
[21:43] <m1chael> i have 6.1gigs of mpg's... i have a dvd with 4.7gb.. i used this ffmpeg command to prepare my mpgs: ffmpeg -i test.MTS -target pal-dvd -ps 2000000000 -aspect 16:9 finale_video.mpeg # does dvd authoring compress at all? is there something i can do with ffmpeg to compress the videos so they fit on a dvd?
[21:43] <KBentley57> can anyone recommend a good guide to setting up distcc on two ubuntu boxes?  I've been trying all morning without much luck
[21:44] <Zackington> info on how to run ubuntu through bootcamp on a mac
[21:44] <Zackington> ?
[21:44] <CFHowlett> Zackington   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[21:45] <Zackington> without the firmware password but...
[21:45] <Zackington> its compicated
[21:45] <Zackington> complicated
[21:46] <KBentley57> don't have the firmware password?  is it your pc or a school mac?
[21:48] <NoViS1> Can anyone help me get the partition manager to start during install for Ubuntu Server 11.10 with a hardware RAID1 enabled?
[21:49] <w30> the firmware password is QOOI98893330982JEWEO
[21:51] <ohs> in /etc/init.d create a script called fixnetwork
[21:51] <ohs> Contents of fixnetwork script:
[21:51] <ohs> #!/bin/sh
[21:51] <ohs> cp /etc/resolv.ok /etc/resolv.conf
[21:51] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <ohs> does it mean that I need to type nano fixnetwork and type the code inside the fixnetwork?
[21:52] <ohs> please help:)
[21:52] <KBentley57> i believe it means do nano fixnetwork.sh
[21:53] <KBentley57> and put those lines inside it
[21:53] <dlentz> (sudo nano)
[21:53] <ohs> thank you very much
[21:53] <AndyUbuntu> evening everyont
[21:53] <AndyUbuntu> everyone
[21:53] <dominik> new install of 11.10, trying to set up vnc, I can connect but can only see empty desktop without any launch bar, edited ~/.vnc/xstartup without success :(
[21:53] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   greetings
[21:53] <AndyUbuntu> has anyone come across any problems installing the latest version on gimp?
[21:54] <CFHowlett> !anyone|andyubuntu
[21:54] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   state the issue YOU are having ...
[21:54] <dlentz> AndyUbuntu, i've seen people complaining about dependency issues with ppa versions of gimp
[21:54] <AndyUbuntu> i have the gimp repo and am not able to install the new version as i am having dependancy issues
[21:54] <goddard> anyone use anjuta?
[21:55] <goddard> how can i change gcc version?
[21:55] <AndyUbuntu> ahh ok i thougt people may of been having similar issues
[21:55] <AndyUbuntu> dlentz, is there a way to fix these issues?
[21:56] <dlentz> AndyUbuntu, it dpends on the specific error...
[21:57] <AndyUbuntu> dlenz, this is what i have been getting:  gimp : Depends: libgimp2.0 (>= 2.7.5) but 2.6.11-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[21:58] <NoViS1> Is there a way to start a menu'd partitioner in a terminal during install?
[21:58] <AndyUbuntu> it says i have broken packages but i have checked and i dont have any :S
[21:58] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: you have the gimp ppa
[21:58] <CellTech> Can Lubuntu software center work in Xubuntu?
[21:59] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: your system is broke
[21:59] <hilarie> What does the %id mean in this string from top? Cpu(s):  1.3%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 56.3%id, 40.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st
[21:59] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia is this because there is a problem with the gimp ppa at the moment?
[21:59] <haz3lnut> AndyUbuntu: use aptitude from the terminal
[21:59] <haz3lnut> AndyUbuntu: it's good with broken packages
[21:59] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: not "at the moment" - PPA's are unsupported because anyone can make them with any quality of software
[22:00] <ikonia> haz3lnut: it won't work -
[22:00] <haz3lnut> ikonia: elaborate?
[22:00] <[Si]> hilarie Idle
[22:00] <ikonia> haz3lnut: there are conflicts within the gimp PPA and the ubuntu core repos,
[22:00] <KBentley57> CellTech, i don't see why it wouldn't
[22:00] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, so would you recoment removing the repository and downgrading?
[22:00] <CellTech> Awesome, thank you
[22:00] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: best of luck with that.....
[22:01] <hilarie> [Si] ty
[22:01] <CellTech> I need a lighter version of it. My Xubuntu one stalls and is a RAM hog
[22:01] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, i am able to purge the gimp ppa and install an older version and it works fine
[22:01] <haz3lnut> ikonia: well then, AndyUbuntu: install from core repo and forget PPA
[22:01] <hilarie> CellTech try xubuntu :)
[22:02] <CellTech> I'm on it. And it's still a ram hog
[22:02] <AndyUbuntu> haz3lnut, which is the core ppa?
[22:02] <diverdude> when will php5.4 be available in the official repo?
[22:02] <haz3lnut> ikonia: but still aptitude will help you fix broken shit better than anythig else.
[22:02] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: then why are you asking for help if you are telling me you can do this ?
[22:02] <hilarie> CellTech how much ram do you have?
[22:02] <AndyUbuntu> just to make sure, i may delete the other ppa
[22:02] <KBentley57> CellTech, how advanced would you rate yourself on ubuntu?  I've got some suggestions if you're up to it
[22:02] <CellTech> 512
[22:03] <CellTech> Not too advanced but I do listen well
[22:03] <ikonia> haz3lnut: 1.) no need for that language 2.) aptitude can't fix broken software conflicts
[22:03] <AndyUbuntu> well, the old version that was on there is a really old version and i want to install the latest version which i dont know how to do
[22:03] <AndyUbuntu> so i need your guys help :)
[22:03] <haz3lnut> ikonia: sorry for offending you, my god, what have we become?
[22:03] <hilarie> CellTech are you sure you aren't looking at buffers and stuff? not the actual usage
[22:03] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: answer this - WHY do you want a newer version
[22:03] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: what's in the newer version that you want
[22:04] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, i would like the single window mode mainly
[22:04] <CellTech> I determine by how slow and choppy the computer gets when I try and open something
[22:04] <ikonia> haz3lnut: yeah, it's pretty bad when you can't even talk to someone without swearing infront of 1400+ people, what have we become
[22:04] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[22:04] <KBentley57> CellTech, I usually do a minimal install from the minimal iso and build the desktop up from that
[22:04] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia:  ubuntu 11.10
[22:05] <ikonia> !info gimp
[22:05] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu  compile from source - not for the weak of heart, but doable...
[22:05] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: that's pretty much the latest version from the stable branch
[22:05] <AndyUbuntu> haz3lnut, thanks for you assistance as well
[22:05] <KBentley57> CellTech, using that, and compiling my own kernel, I only end up using about 225 mb of ram idle on unity 2d
[22:05] <ikonia> CFHowlett: terrible idea
[22:05] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: what version are you looking for
[22:05] <metaph> hi, is there a way to restore session?? cannot pass the login screen, only can get through with guest session
[22:05] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   noting of course that 2.7 is a *development* release so expect the unexpected
[22:05] <AndyUbuntu> I would like 2.7
[22:06] <AndyUbuntu> it may of been a late version on 2.6
[22:06] <haz3lnut> ikonia: donning nun's habit, sorry for transgression folks. won;t happen again.
[22:06] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   larger number doesn't mean better ...
[22:06] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: ok, so you want to use development software on a stable distro, and you're wondering why the software repo you've got it from that has confclitcs ?
[22:06] <CFHowlett> might be wiser to wait
[22:06] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: one moment, let me check something
[22:06] <AndyUbuntu> no i dont want to use the development as all
[22:06] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: 2.7 is the development branch
[22:06] <AndyUbuntu> just want the single window mode
[22:07] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: and 11.10 is pretty much the latest stable version
[22:07] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   2.7 *is* development see www.gimp.org/downloads
[22:07] <AndyUbuntu> ok, so i want 2.6 with single window mode
[22:08] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: have you actually researched this ? what version does single window mode come in ?
[22:08] <pislaw> czesc wszystkim
[22:08] <CFHowlett> !cz|pislaw
[22:08] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   see https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=gimp+2.6+single+window&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[22:08] <AndyUbuntu> i did have it before i enabled the gimp repo, i lost it all and installed the latest version  today from ubuntu and i didnt have the single window mode
[22:08] <pislaw> zebym to ja jeszcze wiedzial jak:D
[22:09] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: so you had it in the version you where using it...... then decided to install a later version ? why ?
[22:09] <AndyUbuntu> want to completely stear away from the gimp repo as it seems a bit of a mess lol
[22:09] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: sorry, I'm just to fathom out what you've done and why to stop you doing this again
[22:09] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: if you know it worked in the version you had, why did you upgrade it ?
[22:10] <AndyUbuntu> i didnt install the latest version, it was removed from an update,. Not sure how tbh
[22:10] <pislaw> jest ktos z polski??
[22:10] <AndyUbuntu> slightly skrewed up gimp as it was perfect
[22:10] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[22:10] <ikonia> what was removed ?
[22:10] <ikonia> !pl | pislaw
[22:11] <AndyUbuntu> not sure why it was, i used it all the time and noticed it gone
[22:11] <AndyUbuntu> its ok, i will downgrade again and remove the other repo for good now
[22:12] <ericus> Is it OK to disable watchdog?
[22:12] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, theres alway the nuke from orbit option and reinstall ubuntu
[22:12] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: if that works, well done, I don't think it will though, I think the dependencies will be screwed,
[22:12] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, lol
[22:12] <Fleep> Anyone know how to setup the options Apache starts up with on Ubuntu, equivalent of the -D directive when starting up the daemon? In other systems, there is an "APACHE_OPTS" environment variable that lets you define which options are passed to the startup script
[22:13] <ikonia> Fleep: look at the upstart script and it's config file
[22:13] <AndyUbuntu> lol yeah :) Is there a way to resolve the dependancy issues?
[22:13] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: see if you get them first (I suspect you will)
[22:14] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, I will let you know how it goes. Thanks
[22:15]  * auronandace never uses any extra repos and therefore never had any dependency issues
[22:15] <Fleep> ikonia: Thanks, found it. /etc/defaults/apache2
[22:16] <skenmy> I am having an issue whereby pulseaudio will crash every time I log out / log in. "service pulseaudio start" does not start it again - but "pulseaudio --start" does. Any tips on how to start troubleshooting?
[22:17] <london> hello people
[22:17] <london> have a question about ubuntu tv
[22:17] <nasser_> hi, ubuntu 11.10 doesn't detect my iPhone 4S device
[22:17] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, i have it installed and working again
[22:18] <auronandace> !ubuntutv | london
[22:18] <AndyUbuntu> do you know if there is a way in install single window mode with this version tho?
[22:19] <bdi> When will php5.4 be available in the offical repo?
[22:19] <Fleep> ikonia: Nevermind, I was wrong. Still poking around.
[22:20] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu  ask #gimp #gimp-users #gimp-web #gimps
[22:21] <AndyUbuntu> CFHowlett, thanks
[22:21] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   best of luck
[22:21] <AndyUbuntu> cheers
[22:24] <ericus> Sorry for asking again but is it OK to disable watchdog?
[22:24] <ericus> for powersaving
[22:25] <ericus> powertop tells me to disable it
[22:28] <BryanRuiz> so i cant ssh to my server from THIS ip but it works from THAT ip
[22:28] <BryanRuiz> any ideas?
[22:28] <BryanRuiz> its like im IP banned
[22:28] <london> do anybody know how to properly add ubuntu tv?
[22:28] <N4h4r4-> irc.gamesurge.net - This connects to any of the GameSurge public IRC servers.
[22:28] <auronandace> !ubuntutv | london
[22:29] <malac0da> !s new girl
[22:29] <ericus> BryanRuiz: check /etc/host.allow
[22:30] <BryanRuiz> ericus: wouldnt it be host.deny?
[22:31] <ericus> BryanRuiz: dont know
[22:31] <auronandace> BryanRuiz: that would depend on if you use a blacklist or whitelist, a whitelist seems more sensible in this case
[22:32] <poincare101> Hi everyone. I'm having a bit of trouble with apt-get; it seems that I've somehow gotten rid of libc. This is what sudo apt-get install python3 is telling me: http://pastie.org/3644330 And, this is the output of sudo apt-get install -f: http://pastie.org/3644337 What's going on, and how should I go about fixing it?
[22:33] <ikonia> poincare101: you've not got rid of libc - you've just enabled some PPA's that are creating conflicts
[22:33] <ikonia> !info libc6
[22:33] <Zaitzev> can anyone recommend a decent, lightweight program I can add/search for online streaming radios?
[22:34] <Zaitzev> Banshee doesn't really cut it imho
[22:34] <ikonia> poincare101: first thing do a sudo apt-get update
[22:34] <ikonia> poincare101: get your repos in sync,
[22:34] <wieso> Zaitzev: streamtuner
[22:34] <Zaitzev> hm, i'll have a look
[22:34] <poincare101> ikonia: did it.
[22:34] <wieso> i think: sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[22:34] <ikonia> ok - so what repos have you got enabled ?
[22:35] <Zaitzev> wieso: i find streamtuner and streamtuner2, I assume I should go for 2? ;p
[22:35] <wieso> ah, oh, I dont know, mom
[22:35] <wieso> I have version 0.99.99
[22:35] <wieso> Zaitzev: ^
[22:35] <poincare101> ikonia: I'll show you /etc/apt/sources.lst: http://pastie.org/3644349
[22:35] <mbengaabdou> abudu
[22:36] <Zaitzev> wieso: Yeah I see both 0.99.99 and 2.0.8-5
[22:36] <Zaitzev> I'll try the 2.0 one and see how it does
[22:36] <ikonia> poincare101: all looks pretty solid, anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:36] <ikonia> poincare101: also you may want to disable backports
[22:36] <wieso> yep
[22:36] <poincare101> ikonia: but, how is that related to the problem?
[22:36] <wieso> Zaitzev: let me know
[22:36] <poincare101> ikonia: ldconfig is bricked.
[22:36] <ikonia> poincare101: how is what related to the problem
[22:37] <nuf0xx> o/
[22:37] <poincare101> ikonia: backports
[22:37] <nuf0xx> how can I see if a specific daemon loaded on boot (or is running)
[22:37] <ikonia> poincare101: because you may find packages conflicting/held back due to back ports
[22:38] <poincare101> ikonia: okay, removed backports, now trying again
[22:38] <cryptotheslow> nuf0xx:  ps aux | grep >daemon<   ...  where >daemon< is the process name you expect for the process should do
[22:38] <Zaitzev> wieso: crap, I'm going through configuration settings now and see that it has audacious for default mp3 player (wtf?), and I removed audacious earlier..
[22:38] <ikonia> poincare101: apt-get update first, it may not fix it, but it will make resolving it easier
[22:38] <poincare101> ikonia: I know, updated
[22:38] <Zaitzev> wieso: I don't want to have 10 applications doing the same thing, installed on my system. ;p
[22:39] <poincare101> ikonia: nope, same problem.
[22:39] <wieso> Zaitzev: ah, sry
[22:39] <wieso> I like it, its easy
[22:39] <wieso> Zaitzev: Bunshee?
[22:39] <Zaitzev> hmph
[22:39] <Zaitzev> I was hoping to not have to have anything but one player doing it all, or something.
[22:39] <ikonia> poincare101: is there anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[22:39] <poincare101> ikonia: I'll check
[22:40] <nuf0xx> cryptotheslow: thanks
[22:40] <ikonia> !info
[22:40] <ikonia> 22:39 < poincare101> ikonia: nope, same problem.
[22:40] <ikonia> oops
[22:40] <ikonia> sorry
[22:40] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <lewis1711_> silly question, but if I download 12.04 and install it now, when it will be able to update itself to the stable version when it's released, right? :)
[22:40] <zykotick9> !final | lewis1711_
[22:40] <lewis1711_> (my bandwidth is sort of limited
[22:40] <ikonia> !info python3
[22:40] <dan3son> How can I remove all .m4p files in a nested arangement of folders?
[22:40] <lewis1711_> sweet, ty
[22:40] <dan3son> rm -r *.m4p doesn't work
[22:40] <poincare101> ikonia: yeah, there are two files, google-talkplugin.list oneiric-partner.list
[22:41] <wieso> dan3son: with find grep and exec
[22:41] <ikonia> poincare101: well, I'm not sure about the google one, but I can't see either of them causing that conflict
[22:41] <ikonia> poincare101: do an apt-cache policy on libc6
[22:41] <wylde> dan3son: for one it's -R not -r :)
[22:41] <ikonia> !info libc6
[22:41] <ikonia> poincare101: as you can see the version current in 11.10 is 2.13-20ubuntu5.1
[22:41] <dan3son> Could you guys show me an ecxample?
[22:41] <wieso> dan3son: mom
[22:42] <ikonia> poincare101: so why your machine things 2.13-20ubuntu5 is current is the issue
[22:42] <ikonia> thinks
[22:42] <poincare101> ikonia: Its not been updated
[22:42] <kitchen> any hints about how to stop oneiric from probing jack insertion on my headphone jack?  it's causing skips every 3s or so
[22:42] <ikonia> poincare101: what's not been updated ?
[22:42] <wylde> dan3son: find /path/to/folder -type f -name "*.mp4" -delete
[22:42] <poincare101> ikonia: Packages, and, I think I'm running 11.x what "cache policy" command do you want me to ruN?
[22:43] <ikonia> poincare101: you're running 11.10
[22:43] <Zaitzev> wieso: Doesn't look like Banshee will work. It doesn't allow passing of the url or something like that.
[22:43] <wylde> dan3son: also have a look at man find, to tweak that.
[22:43] <ikonia> poincare101: and as I've just shown you the version in the 11.10 repo is 2.13-20ubuntu5.1 but for some reason your machine thinks it's 2.13-20ubuntu5
[22:43] <ikonia> poincare101: that's what's causing the conflict
[22:44] <wieso> Zaitzev: then i dont know, sry
[22:44] <Zaitzev> wieso: Btw, streamtuner2 works alright. I don't have a comparison but it's all I need. About the player, I'll reinstall audacious :)
[22:44] <dan3son> Thanks, worked
[22:45] <Zaitzev> oh wait, Banshee worked after all. Hm. Alrighty, I'll keep that then.
[22:45] <wieso> Zaitzev: :)
[22:45] <wieso> dan3son: find ~/ -type f -name thumbs.db | xargs -i rm {};
[22:45] <wieso> dan3son: ah, okay, u found a solution
[22:46] <wieso> Zaitzev: )
[22:46] <poincare101> ikonia: so, what would I do?
[22:46] <wylde> wieso: find has a built in -delete action, no need for exec :)
[22:46] <ikonia> poincare101: we need to figure out why, normally it's a PPA that has a package that has a version hardcoded to depend on it, or a repo that's out of date
[22:47] <wieso> wylde: see above :)
[22:47] <ikonia> poincare101: give me a short while, I'm just in the middle of something, then I can give you some proper attention
[22:47] <f> Hi! Do you guys know how the application that automatically connects to WiFis in ubuntu is called? I think it's simply called gnome network manager or something.
[22:47] <poincare101> ikonia: alright.
[22:47] <CFHowlett> f nm network manager
[22:47] <f> i see
[22:47] <f> thansk
[22:49] <diverdude> anybody know if there is a reliable ppa for ubuntu with php5.4?
[22:49] <Mike9863> I accidentally enabled some feature that turns on icons in buttons and menus. How can I disable this?
[22:50] <wieso> Mike9863: where do u see this? Nautilus?
[22:51] <Mike9863> wieso: I don't remember where I enabled it, that's the problem.
[22:55] <diverdude> anybody know if there is a reliable ppa for ubuntu with php5.4?
[22:58] <zykotick9> diverdude: "reliable" and "ppa" don't belong in the same sentense ;)
[22:59] <CyberKnet> I installed desktop edition and since decided I don't need the gui ... is it sufficient to run sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop to remove all things related to the gui?
[23:00] <CyberKnet> it doesn't seem to pull in any other packages to be removed...
[23:00] <ciscoftw> trying to run 'x' via ssh, everything i'm read indicates i need to edit a tcp listener via '/etc/gdm' but that directory path does not exist on my build (ubuntu 11.10) ...i've exported the display, when i echo $DISPLAY it returns :0
[23:00] <xterminator> is there a good list of Ubuntu-compatible programs somewhere?
[23:00] <salvino> hi all
[23:00] <cryptotheslow> CyberKnet: ubuntu-desktop is just a wrapper
[23:01] <zykotick9> CyberKnet: see the !pureFOO factoid for some possible hints - i'll send one
[23:01] <CFHowlett> salvino   greetings
[23:01] <zykotick9> cryptotheslow: s/wrapper/meta package/
[23:01] <salvino> i have a problem with the reboot
[23:01] <CFHowlett> xterminator   software center
[23:01] <zykotick9> !purgekde | CyberKnet
[23:01] <zykotick9> !purekde | CyberKnet
[23:01] <haz3lnut> ciscoftw: when you ssh, you type ssh -Y .... ?
[23:01] <xterminator> CFHowlett: every compatible program is in there?
[23:01] <cryptotheslow> thanks zykotick9 - couldn't think of the right name for it :)
[23:01] <zeromission> my isp blocks port 25, but my shell account hosts smtp on port 25 how can i setup a portforward on the shellaccount that forwards port 2000 to 25 on localhost? i cant figure out the ssh command could someone give me an example of this?
[23:02] <CFHowlett> xterminator   every program that is in the Ubuntu repository is there
[23:02] <CyberKnet> zykotick9: I don't want a gui at all.
[23:02] <xterminator> CFHowlett: well i need to find out whether every program i have can be run on ubuntu or not
[23:02] <ciscoftw> haz: i already have ssh shell on this computer.... didnt use any ssh parameters to access box.
[23:02] <xterminator> or every major program i have
[23:03] <CyberKnet> !pureconsole | CyberKnet
[23:03] <ciscoftw> huh, but looking via putty it shows 'x11 forwarding' as enabled
[23:03] <CFHowlett> xterminator   software center programs will run and are the best source.  NON-software center programs have no such guarantee.
[23:03] <xterminator> ok
[23:03] <xterminator> thanks CFHowlett
[23:03] <CFHowlett> xterminator  have fun / be safe
[23:04] <xterminator> haha
[23:04] <salvino> i have a problem with the reboot. when I reboot the PC, without going through the boot, it goes to the login
[23:04] <salvino> i have a problem with the reboot. when I reboot the PC it goes to the login without going through the boot
[23:04] <CFHowlett> salvino   do you have only 1 OS installed?
[23:05] <haz3lnut> ciscoftw: I think I understand that you want to ssh to another machine and have an X11 program show on your local screen.  If that's correct, you type ssh -Y remotehost.com
[23:05] <diverdude> zykotick9: i just want to have a php5.4 on my system that works!
[23:05] <salvino> CFHowlett, yes, i have 1 OS installed
[23:06] <CFHowlett> salvino sounds like you've set your system preferences to boot you automatically.  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:06] <salvino> excuse me, when I turn off the PC, it goes to the login without going through the boot
[23:06] <R33p3r> hallpo
[23:06] <R33p3r> hallo *
[23:07] <salvino> CFHowlett, i have 11.10
[23:07] <CFHowlett> salvino   wait, you mean shutdown won't shutdown?
[23:07] <gurgalof> how do you X11 forward the entire desktop?
[23:07] <gurgalof> I know how to do single programs
[23:07] <salvino> CFHowlett, exactly
[23:08] <CFHowlett> salvino   and you're *shutting down* not *logging out*?
[23:08] <salvino> CFHowlett, yes
[23:09] <kffess> salvino are you pressing the power button?
[23:09] <roland_>  #bioinfo.fr
[23:10] <salvino> kffess, no, i turn off the PCI as it normally
[23:11] <kffess> what happens with the command "shutdown -h now"?
[23:12] <salvino> i haven't tried, kffess
[23:13] <kffess> try and see, salvino
[23:13] <salvino> but i wont that it work
[23:16] <rtdos> am having a problem loading (and closing) apps on kubuntu: some (most) apps seem to take awhile to either load or shutdown. like there is something running in the background or waiting for something to close. i ran all the necessary tests, including fsck and still have this issue.
[23:17] <salvino> hi
[23:17] <_mcs_>  /sb start
[23:18] <salvino> the commando work, but the button no
[23:20] <Krenair> How do I get the latest stable thunderbird in Ubuntu 11.04
[23:20] <Krenair> ?
[23:20] <Krenair> (Properly, through the package manager.)
[23:21] <cryptotheslow> Krenair: take a look at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable
[23:22] <cryptotheslow> especially the "Read about installing" link
[23:23] <douglaslucas> hi
[23:24] <douglaslucas> I was executing "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" and it hung on a Microsoft font EULA. I waited 20-30 minutes, still hung. So I closed terminal, reopened, executed the same command. Get two errors messages now:
[23:24] <douglaslucas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:24] <douglaslucas> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:24] <douglaslucas> suggestions? :(
[23:25] <Yukiteru> douglaslucas, reboot the system
[23:25] <douglaslucas> and then?
[23:25] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: did you agree to the EULA or just look at it for 30 mintes?
[23:26] <mneptok> douglaslucas: it did not hang. it was waiting for you to accept that agreement
[23:26] <douglaslucas> I couldn't figure out any way to agree to the EULA. Tried hitting Enter, Y, clicking, etc.
[23:26] <douglaslucas> oops :(
[23:26] <Yukiteru> douglaslucas, reboot the system
[23:26] <Yukiteru> and execute the command again
[23:26] <douglaslucas> the agreement was appearing in the terminal
[23:26] <Dbm> Hello guys, ive need help. When i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS i bootup via USB, all works fine till i get in narea to clear whole HDD and install fresh system. I got some Warning about /dev/sda msdos or something.
[23:26] <mneptok> douglaslucas: did you try the up/down scroll keys?
[23:27] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: I think you have to use Tab to move around the EULA prompts if irc
[23:27] <gurgalof> reading a Microsoft EULA maybe takes 30minutes+ :D
[23:27] <douglaslucas> yes, I was able to scroll up and down the agreement, but that didn't help
[23:27] <douglaslucas> gurgalof: lol :)
[23:27] <wylde> !precise | Dbm
[23:27] <douglaslucas> Ok, I'll try to be more creative this time trying to accept the EULA. (I wasn't just sitting there, I ran an errand ;) )
[23:27] <Dbm> ty
[23:29] <wolfric> should grep --exclude-dir=ignorethisdir -Ri test . not work? This looks quite to me according to the grep man page
[23:31] <haz3lnut> never saw this before "/dev/zram0" it's 4.2 GB. I searched google, not much help. blkid shows it's a swap drive.  disk utility shows it;s a solid state disk. mount shows nothing.  Can someone shed light on this new device?
[23:34] <unperson> Hi.  I'm trying to settle on photo management software to use (on my Linux desktop).  The key requirements are that it: 1) Reasonably robust support for tagging photos (ability to add, remove, or modify tags on many photos at a time), 2) tags stored in some way that would be reasonably feasible to export to other software (i.e., no lock-in), 3) support within the organizer for keeping both the original of a photo and a modified vers
[23:34] <unperson> ion, 4) a way from within the program to open a photo with an external application (e.g., gimp).  Suggestions?
[23:34] <douglaslucas> okay, I rebooted and re-ran "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-editors"
[23:34] <majorastro> how do I get the classic desktop on ubuntu
[23:34] <douglaslucas> got this response in terminal: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:34] <wylde> haz3lnut: just taking a shot in the dark, have you been using any ram disks for anything?
[23:35] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: did you try the suggested command there?
[23:35] <douglaslucas> crypto: no, about to
[23:35] <cryptotheslow> ok :)
[23:36] <wylde> haz3lnut: something like http://shmilyxbq-compcache.googlecode.com/hg/README ?
[23:36] <haz3lnut> wylde: no
[23:37] <loculinux> kjasdkljfds
[23:37] <loculinux> clear
[23:37] <darky123> hello guys
[23:37] <douglaslucas> now it's installing more parts of the package. I wonder what happens to the microsoft font one?
[23:38] <Praxi> hmm how do I install a nightly build of gimp
[23:38] <haz3lnut> wylde: so this isn't standard ubuntu?  Why did it show up on my system, and what package may be repsonsible is my question.
[23:38] <kffess> unperson - Picasa?
[23:39] <wylde> haz3lnut: trying to figure that out. That readme seems to decsribe what you're saying yes?
[23:39] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: you may want to purge and reinstall it once it's completed just to make sure.
[23:39] <wylde> haz3lnut: dpkg -l | grep zram maybe?
[23:39] <haz3lnut> wylde: yes, but it doesn;t show up in mount
[23:40] <Zaitzev> any way to adjust the mouse sensitivity even lower, when the sliders are at the bottom in settings?
[23:40] <unperson> kffess, I've tried Picasa.  Managing tags was clunky, wasn't clear to me they'd be portable.  And I don't think they made it so easy to edit in an external program.
[23:40] <haz3lnut> wylde: null
[23:40] <darky123> i have backtrack 5 and i dont know where to start .i want you to tell me if there is any site that can help me to learn more about terminal
[23:40] <wylde> haz3lnut: yeah, maybe searching Ubuntu pacakges on launchpad for zram might show it as a dependancy of something
[23:40] <Bluemalkin> hi - how often does ubuntu server go apt-get update by itself and where is it configured ?
[23:41] <GhostConn> anyone frimilar with plymouth manager?
[23:42] <darky123> does anyone know anything about creation(hacking)?
[23:42] <douglaslucas1> sorry, wifi disconnected randomly
[23:43] <douglaslucas1> cryptotheslow: purge and reinstall the whole-restricted-extras ?
[23:43] <wylde> haz3lnut: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zram-config is all is see on launchpad. It's for Precise i386 only though as far as I can see.
[23:44] <haz3lnut> wylde: yeah, I saw that, but I'm running 11.10
[23:44] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: guess so unless you just do the ms-font package alone
[23:44] <wylde> haz3lnut: any chance it came from a PPA?
[23:44] <douglaslucas> crypto: I'll just purge and reinstall...what are the commands for that?
[23:44] <haz3lnut> so to be clear, does no one else here have /dev/zram0 as a swap device?
[23:44] <wylde> haz3lnut: maybe something involving high speed compression of any sort?
[23:45] <haz3lnut> wylde: I got some PPAs... lemme see.
[23:45] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: sudo apt-get purge ~packagename~
[23:45] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, what does /dev/zram0 do?
[23:46] <wylde> haz3lnut: dpkg -l would list packages even from the ppa's yes? did you try 'dpkg -l | grep zram' ?
[23:46] <haz3lnut> wylde: yes, it comes back null
[23:46] <wylde> haz3lnut: bugger ...hmm
[23:47] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: it's installed as a 4.2 GB swap disk, and it doesn;t show up in mount
[23:47] <itaylor57> it be a ramdisk methinks
[23:47] <quiescens> zram is an in-memory compressed block device thingy
[23:48] <wylde> itaylor57: yep, we're trying to figure out how it got there. :)
[23:48] <haz3lnut> quiescens: yes it is, I'm trying to figure out where it came from and why it;s installed.
[23:48] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, i have enought ram to not use swap, and i've put /tmp in ram
[23:48] <gurgalof> 8GB on a laptop is enough for most
[23:48] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: I have 8gigs
[23:49] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, tell me why compressed swap ram thingy?
[23:49] <wylde> looks to me like there's a package in the works in precise to use zram as tmp, at the package page I linked earlier
[23:50] <haz3lnut> hmm, I have the backports ppa active.  I forget why.
[23:50] <haz3lnut> must be from there
[23:51] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: purge said "ubuntu-restricted-extras is not installed, so not removed" then installed the font package (including giving me the EULA, which I defeated this time).
[23:52] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: so I wonder if the other, non-font parts of ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed?
[23:52] <haz3lnut> wylde, gurgalof, I activated PPA backports to install kubuntu 4.8 to try it out.  It must have also installed the zram device.
[23:52] <haz3lnut> wylde: so apparently I'm running with a 4.2 GB swap drive in RAM!
[23:52] <haz3lnut> what's the point in that?
[23:53] <gurgalof> usefulness in my point, ZERO
[23:53] <wylde> haz3lnut: ahh alrighty, speed. RAM is exponentially faster than disk swap
[23:53] <gurgalof> but swap in ram defeats swap
[23:53] <haz3lnut> really
[23:54] <quiescens> its compressed
[23:54] <wylde> gurgalof: yep, seems redundant but it's the onbly real reason I could think of
[23:54] <quiescens> compressed in ram is still faster than disk in most cases
[23:54] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: give a minute, I'll install it here
[23:54] <KBentley57> why not just use the ram as ram?
[23:54] <quiescens> to my knowledge the in memory swap is or was used by default on some of the livecd like environments when no swap is detected
[23:54] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: thanks
[23:55] <haz3lnut> exactly, so the question becomes, how do I remove zram?  I tried sudo apt-get remove zram, but it's not a package.
[23:56] <haz3lnut> apt-cache search zram shows nothing
[23:56] <wylde> haz3lnut: zram-config?
[23:56] <douglaslucas> hmm pidgin /whois doesn't show if I'm +z or not
[23:56] <douglaslucas> but I think I connected via SSL
[23:56] <haz3lnut> nope
[23:57] <haz3lnut> so maybe create a swap drive?
[23:57] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: you have no swap, right?
[23:57] <kion> how do I get my contacts from Ubuntu One sinchronized with Thunderbird?
[23:57] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: what does....    dpkg -s ubuntu-restricted-extras    say?
[23:57] <wylde> I honestly don't know, unless there's something running at boot to create it, it would be lost between reboots.
[23:57] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, nope
[23:57] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: what doe blkid show you?
[23:58] <quiescens> the whole no swap thingy is silly anyway
[23:58] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, nothing at all
[23:58] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: Package `ubuntu-restricted-extras' is not installed and no info is available.
[23:58] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: well it should show you all of your drives.
[23:58] <quiescens> i would have a quick look at init files as to which one loads the zram kernel module
[23:58] <gurgalof> quiescens, i do not want swap on my SSD
[23:58] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: hmm comes back as Package: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:58] <cryptotheslow> Status: install ok installed
[23:58] <cryptotheslow>  here
[23:59] <quiescens> probably grep -r zram /etc