| kees | jcastro: how do I submit a juju charm to the massive repo of them? | 00:50 |
|---|---|---|
| jcastro | http://juju.ubuntu.com/Charms | 00:50 |
| jcastro | has the steps | 00:51 |
| jcastro | kees, push to your branch, file bug, attach branch, tag it "new-charm" when you want a review | 00:51 |
| jcastro | kees, is this for the contest? | 00:51 |
| kees | jcastro: well, I thought I did all that before, but I figured I'd try it again as long as there was a contest. ;) | 00:54 |
| jcastro | link me up with the bug # when you have it and I'll pile it on the queue! | 00:54 |
| jcastro | kees, nice to you have you around rocking it still. | 00:55 |
| kees | jcastro: thanks! | 00:57 |
| kees | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/961819 tada | 00:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 961819 in Juju Charms Collection "New "sbuild" charm for build environments" [Undecided,New] | 00:57 |
| kees | okay, looks like I had just missed that last step then. heh | 00:57 |
| adam_g | any tips for dealing with test suites in packages that call libraries (python library, in this case) that try accessing things that are off limits on the build system (/dev/log, in this case) | 01:29 |
| jamesh | adam_g: fixing the test suite not to access things that are off limits? | 01:46 |
| adam_g | jamesh: its not the test suite, its a library that the test suite requires. suppose there is no fix other than skip those tests | 01:47 |
| jamesh | adam_g: or provide a fake implementation of the library function | 01:48 |
| jamesh | or perhaps one of the mock libraries | 01:48 |
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| jhojho | can someone sponsor some attention to this bug. given that it's openssl, it will likely affect quite a few installs and packages. this applies to 64bit installs that do not have processors with AES-NI | 02:52 |
| jhojho | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/940230 | 02:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 940230 in openssl (Ubuntu) "openssl on 64bit is much slower than before" [Undecided,New] | 02:52 |
| jhojho | it should be easily fixable with compile flags. i.e. do not compile ASM in for the x86_64 build... | 02:53 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:52 |
| scientes | unity-2d in precise use to work and now it doesn't | 05:53 |
| scientes | at 800x480 on fbdev @ 16 bpp | 05:53 |
| RAOF | scientes: Can you be more specific than “doesn't work”? | 05:57 |
| scientes | it crashes at launch | 05:58 |
| scientes | it takes al long time to time out before apport comes up | 05:58 |
| scientes | but then its "cant acess memory at XXXXX" | 05:58 |
| scientes | i tried with guest login too | 05:58 |
| scientes | and i purged xorg-edgers | 05:58 |
| scientes | the desktop also gets posted | 05:59 |
| scientes | *desktop image | 05:59 |
| scientes | how do i launch unity from the command line? | 06:03 |
| vibhav | scientes: unity | 06:06 |
| scientes | unity-2d | 06:07 |
| scientes | pooh wow, that worked | 06:08 |
| scientes | maybe its a multi-seat problem | 06:08 |
| scientes | oh no, its using llvmpipe, and slow as balls | 06:08 |
| scientes | and horribly corrupt | 06:08 |
| scientes | how do i run unity-2d from command line? | 06:08 |
| vibhav | #ubuntu might know | 06:09 |
| scientes | unity-2d-shell: [FATAL] Settings schema 'com.canonical.Unity2d.Launcher' is not installed | 06:10 |
| jalcine | balls move quickly when kicked. | 06:12 |
| jalcine | just saying, hehe | 06:12 |
| scientes | old version, fixed | 06:15 |
| alkisg | Hi, I'm using python-distutils-extra, and when I build under Lucid, data_files are missing from POTFILES.in, while under Precise everything is OK. I'm currently using a potfiles-workaround/ dir with symlinks to the files that need translations, but that's too ugly, any better solutions? | 06:28 |
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| hrw | cjwatson: ops, screwed check then | 07:08 |
| pitti | micahg: what's the state of the lightdm gtk greeter? | 07:14 |
| alkisg | Hi, I'm using python-distutils-extra, and when I build under Lucid, data_files are missing from POTFILES.in, while under Precise everything is OK. I'm currently using a potfiles-workaround/ dir with symlinks to the files that need translations, but that's too ugly, any better solutions? | 07:15 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:46 |
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| cjwatson | hrw: well, I fixed pcmciautils, anyway | 08:18 |
| hrw | cjwatson: thx | 08:21 |
| hrw | cjwatson: what would you suggest to do with rest of packages? | 08:27 |
| hrw | cjwatson: ignore, convert to debhelper? | 08:27 |
| cjwatson | hrw: not sure :) | 08:28 |
| cjwatson | it doesn't seem desperately vital that ed doesn't have debug symbols, say | 08:28 |
| hrw | sure, but would be nice to have one for bzip2 for example | 08:28 |
| cjwatson | maybe an Ubuntu-specific change to call pkg_create_dbgsym in the appropriate place | 08:29 |
| cjwatson | I don't think converting packages to debhelper as an Ubuntu delta is a good idea | 08:29 |
| hrw | like binutils do ;) | 08:29 |
| hrw | no, sending delta back should be done | 08:29 |
| cjwatson | it would have to check /CurrentlyBuilding | 08:29 |
| cjwatson | there are cases where maintaining a delta is the right thing to do | 08:30 |
| hrw | btw - can package has arch specific dependency? build-dependencies can do that but I am not sure about dependencies | 08:30 |
| cjwatson | you probably aren't going to make many friends by sending patches that completely change the packaging | 08:30 |
| hrw | I know | 08:30 |
| cjwatson | yes, provided that the package is not Architecture: all | 08:30 |
| hrw | thats the problem | 08:30 |
| cjwatson | then no | 08:30 |
| hrw | laptop-detect is shellscript which is arch:any cause on x86 it has one more dependency | 08:31 |
| cjwatson | that's a legitimate reason to be arch: any | 08:31 |
| cjwatson | it doesn't just mean "compiled code only" | 08:31 |
| hrw | I know, just wondered | 08:31 |
| toabctl | mvo, can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/960914 ? | 08:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 960914 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Can not update packages - nothing happens after package download" [Undecided,New] | 08:32 |
| mvo | toabctl: sure, let me check that one | 08:40 |
| mvo | toabctl: let me follow up in the bugreport I asked a bunch of questions there | 08:42 |
| mvo | (now) | 08:42 |
| pitti | hey mvo, good morning | 08:45 |
| mvo | hey pitti good morning to you as well | 08:45 |
| pitti | mvo: in bug 950676, do you think it would help to remove libseed0 early with a breaks: or even conflicts:? it seems to be pretty close to the root of the evil | 09:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 950676 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "lucid->precise upgrade failure due to gir1.0->gir1.2 conflicts" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950676 | 09:01 |
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| jamespage | StevenK, hey - any change you could accept the zentyal-* binary packages into precise please? | 09:43 |
| * StevenK reaches for cocobanana. | 09:44 | |
| StevenK | jamespage: I'm a little concerned some of the source packages are 2.3.4 and some are 2.3.3, but they all look good, so I'm accepting them. | 09:51 |
| jamespage | StevenK, great - upstream release each component separately hence the different minor version numbers... | 09:51 |
| jamespage | thanks v much | 09:52 |
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| mvo | pitti: sorry, I was deep in a code review, let me check | 10:13 |
| mvo | pitti: getting rid of libseed0 early would certainly help | 10:15 |
| mvo | pitti: from what I see in the logs | 10:15 |
| pitti | mvo: still not sure whether this is a real apt bug, or just bad dependencies | 10:16 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, I'll try to upload a seed with that conflicts, we'll see how far we'll get | 10:17 |
| pitti | s/try to// | 10:17 |
| mvo | I wonder why its installed in the first place | 10:17 |
| pitti | mvo: some universe package in lucid apparently pulled it in | 10:17 |
| mvo | pitti: give me some minute to read the log some more | 10:18 |
| mvo | at least: | 10:18 |
| mvo | Broken libseed0:i386 Depends on gir1.0-glib-2.0 [ i386 ] < 0.6.8-1 > ( libs ) (>= 0.6.3) | 10:18 |
| mvo | Considering gir1.0-glib-2.0:i386 17 as a solution to libseed0:i386 -1 | 10:18 |
| mvo | Removing libseed0:i386 rather than change gir1.0-glib-2.0:i386 | 10:18 |
| mvo | looks like its doing the right thing | 10:18 |
| jhojho | openssl-1.0.1 is released. is it too late to ship for precise? | 10:44 |
| cjwatson | I was actually pondering that myself | 10:44 |
| cjwatson | planning to look into it today and do some testing, and get a feature freeze exception request in if it looks good; there are some problems I've not been able to solve otherwise | 10:45 |
| jhojho | there are numerous improvements. which would be beneficial for a LTS | 10:45 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I know | 10:45 |
| jhojho | if you look at it, it would be much appreciated. | 10:45 |
| cjwatson | I'm not averse to it, it would be better than giant hairy backports | 10:45 |
| cjwatson | but there is certainly a risk so I need to do due diligence | 10:46 |
| jhojho | also if you could disable asm for ubuntu x86 64bit build | 10:46 |
| cjwatson | I'd rather investigate first | 10:46 |
| jhojho | there's a big regression of using asm vs. C starting with 1.0.0 | 10:46 |
| cjwatson | I'm aware of that bug but I do not propose to agree to any particular solution until I've looked into it myself | 10:46 |
| jhojho | no worries. i have a bug opened for it. with a bunch of links that should explain. | 10:47 |
| jhojho | as well as timings. | 10:47 |
| cjwatson | heh, there's already an FFe open. I do so love it when non-developers open FFes ;-) | 10:48 |
| jhojho | i was just hoping to get these all fixed given that precise is LTS and openssl affects so many other packages that perf would be fixed. =) | 10:48 |
| jhojho | what's the url to that FFe? | 10:48 |
| mvo | pitti: so what is still depending on the old gir? is it just a incomplete transition? Considering gir1.0-gtk-2.0:i386 3 as a solution to gir1.2-gtk-2.0:i386 3 shows that there are probably 3 rdepends (but they might be still on the installed system) | 10:49 |
| cjwatson | jhojho: it's got no useful information in it yet; I'd rather people didn't pile on it please | 10:50 |
| mvo | pitti: the log is a bit confusing, nevermind I keep diging | 10:50 |
| jhojho | i wasnt planning on adding anything to it. | 10:50 |
| jhojho | just to watch/track. | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | jhojho: also are you sure that 1.0.1 still has the performance regression on 64-bit? the thread at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.openssl.devel/19836 suggests this shouldn't be so | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | aside from some slowdown to resist cache timing attacks | 10:51 |
| mvo | pitti: aha, I think that contributes to the problem that there are no direct gir1.2-gtk-2.0 dependencies, this means apt has a harder time figuring out if the package is important or not | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | the FFe is bug 958430 | 10:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 958430 in openssl (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please sync openssl 1.0.1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958430 | 10:52 |
| mvo | pitti: I think that moving gir1.0-gtk-2.0 from option to extra (and the other gir1.0 stuff) fixes the bug too | 10:52 |
| dholbach | sladen, do you think you could have a look into the ubuntu-font MP again? | 10:53 |
| pitti | mvo: we can't, the gir1.0-* packages have gone long ago | 10:53 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: it's not clear. I'm happy to do some timing tests if a package is built. | 10:53 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: looking at the changelog, the constant time implementation that I see, is the stuff contributed by google | 10:54 |
| jhojho | for elliptic curve | 10:54 |
| jhojho | so not the same thing. | 10:54 |
| pitti | mvo: "Installing gir1.2-gtk-2.0 as Depends of gir1.2-dbusmenu-gtk-0.4 | 10:54 |
| jhojho | "Specify "enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128" on the Configure (or config) command | 10:54 |
| jhojho | line to include this in your build of OpenSSL" | 10:54 |
| jhojho | for 64bit only | 10:55 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: in that gmane link you posted, the last sentence says "If non-AES-NI | 10:56 |
| jhojho | performance in FIPS context is important to you, contact | 10:56 |
| jhojho | opensslfoundation.com." | 10:56 |
| jhojho | so I'm thinking it's probably not fixed for asm (or considered a priority item). and since using the asm codepath drops off about 50% for aes, it's kind of a big regression. | 10:57 |
| sladen | dholbach: if it's going up, I'd like it with the ~medium (as we have different combinations in different PPAs and this means the combinations are clear) | 10:59 |
| dholbach | sladen, can't you upload it with that change? | 10:59 |
| dholbach | sladen, we are going to have Beta 2 Freeze today | 11:00 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: here's what I've found so far.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/940230 | 11:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 940230 in openssl (Ubuntu) "openssl on 64bit is much slower than before" [Undecided,New] | 11:00 |
| dholbach | so better get it in quick before | 11:00 |
| sladen | dholbach: however it is a massive (but minor) kludge that could be done at any point, and so I think this it makes sense to do it at T-5/6 weeks when it's probably possible to get a real fix in that time | 11:00 |
| therve | hi there! | 11:00 |
| dholbach | T-5/6 weeks? you mean after the release? | 11:00 |
| sladen | dholbach: and additionally; if it's happening, I don't want to do it before the wallpapers go up, so I don't lose the CD space | 11:00 |
| cjwatson | jhojho: I think I'm more worried about non-FIPS context for Ubuntu | 11:00 |
| sladen | dholbach: release is 5 weeks away | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | so I disregarded that last sentence | 11:01 |
| pitti | mvo: do you think a conflicts: libseed0 or breaks: will be better? | 11:01 |
| mvo | pitti: ohhh | 11:01 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: i dont need FIPS so i'm fine with that =) | 11:01 |
| mvo | pitti: I think a conflict will be (slightly) better | 11:01 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, that's my gut feeling, too | 11:01 |
| pitti | mvo: "oooh" sounds promising | 11:01 |
| dholbach | sladen, ok, I don't understand what you're saying, but I'll leave the decision to you - the merge proposal looked like you wanted Florian just to update the version number, which looked like a minor thing to block on | 11:02 |
| pitti | mvo: will a replaces: help to ease apt's mind? | 11:02 |
| mvo | pitti: no, sorry, it was about that its gone from the archive :/ | 11:02 |
| mvo | pitti: as the optionl->extra would be a nice fix IMO | 11:02 |
| pitti | mvo: it was renamed for parallel installability, but now it _is_ the libseed library | 11:02 |
| sladen | dholbach: that one merge results in 3-4 other uploads needing to go into PPAs so they keep ahead | 11:02 |
| sladen | dholbach: I'm not keen on doing it | 11:02 |
| sladen | dholbach: however, if it's done, I'd prefer it being done in the prettiest way | 11:03 |
| dholbach | ok, I'll leave it to you - shall I mark it as "WIP"? | 11:03 |
| mvo | pitti: the conflict should be good enough (I think), but a C/R/P will not hurt if its really the same | 11:03 |
| dholbach | it doesn't seem to make sense to have it in the sponsoring queue | 11:03 |
| pitti | mvo: "provides:" would be exaggerating, and technically wrong | 11:04 |
| pitti | mvo: I have C/R now | 11:04 |
| mvo | ok | 11:05 |
| mvo | fingers crossed :) | 11:05 |
| pitti | mvo: uploaded; looking forward to tomorrow's run then | 11:05 |
| pitti | mvo: danke! | 11:05 |
| mvo | cool | 11:07 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: anyways thanks for looking at it as not having to wait another 2 years for TLSv1.1 and TLSv1.2 would be nice. | 11:08 |
| pitti | infinity: eek, that d-i FTBFS looks unhealthy.. | 11:14 |
| infinity | pitti: Nah, it's fine. | 11:16 |
| infinity | pitti: Images just grew a bit when nic-firmware.udeb got more stuff added. | 11:16 |
| pitti | oh, "disk full" | 11:16 |
| infinity | pitti: Either Colin will fix it while I sleep, or I'll fix it when I wake up. | 11:16 |
| pitti | ok, thanks | 11:16 |
| infinity | pitti: Yeah, "disk" being the FAT image, not the buildd's disk. ;) | 11:17 |
| pitti | right, I just missed that at my first look | 11:17 |
| cjwatson | it's running through sbuild locally now | 11:19 |
| hrw | can someone try to rebuild mawk? it fails for me on testing | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | hrw: works fine here in a precise/i386 sbuild instance | 11:46 |
| hrw | thx | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | hrw: do you want the log? | 11:50 |
| hrw | no, built fine in pbuilder here as well | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | ok | 11:53 |
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| jhojho | gcc 4.7.0 is out… http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.devel/125441 | 13:04 |
| jenni82 | hello. i've got a question on ubuntu audio dev ppa. i'm missing alsa-driver-1.0.25 package for precise x64. does anybody know if this one will be part of the release? | 13:11 |
| jenni82 | right now there seem to be only x86 packages | 13:12 |
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| geser | have you the package name at hand? | 13:23 |
| cr3 | can I express a dependency on a version like this: postgresql (8.4 | 9.1)? | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | no | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | the policy manual has a complete syntax for dependencies | 13:27 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: right, I was looking at this page but it wasn't mentionned. I wasn't sure whether it was because it wasn't supported or just wasn't mentionned: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | anything not there is not supported | 13:30 |
| jenni82 | package should be like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/source/precise/alsa-driver | 13:30 |
| jenni82 | but there seem to be no builds for x64 | 13:30 |
| jenni82 | i'm confused | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | jenni82: all the binary packages in the alsa-driver source package are Architecture: all, so it only needs to be built on one architecture | 13:33 |
| geser | jenni82: this source package only builds arch:all packages (can be installed on any architecture), so it only needs to get build once (which is done on the i386 buildd) | 13:33 |
| jenni82 | hmm ... but why does "$ cat /proc/asound/version" deliver Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | That's up to the kernel packages. In Ubuntu the alsa-driver source package really just delivers configuration | 13:37 |
| jenni82 | i was hoping to get rid of some sound-issues. so this means i have to install 1.0.25 manually? | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | I don't know whether the kernel team plan to bump to 1.0.25 | 13:39 |
| jenni82 | ok. thank you. | 13:41 |
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| pitti | jdstrand, apw: sorry, in bug 947254 I accidentally also copied to -security :/ | 14:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 947254 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux: 2.6.38-13.57 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947254 | 14:53 |
| pitti | but I can't just remove the current package from -security again, as we actually want to keep 2.6.38-13.56 there | 14:54 |
| pitti | so we'd either need to reupload, and cause yet another update, or do an USN explaining this? | 14:55 |
| pitti | or find a Launchpad DB hacker to unpublish it? | 14:55 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ^ if you happen to have a brilliant idea | 14:55 |
| cjwatson | I suspect you're better off leaving it there, unless it's really bad | 14:56 |
| pitti | it was regression tested and everything, it's just not a security update | 14:57 |
| pitti | ... for the first time in months, I guess I got way too used to always copying everything to -security | 14:57 |
| pitti | saw too late that the "promote-to-security" task was "invalid" | 14:58 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: ^ | 15:00 |
| jjohansen | pitti: okay, we can write a USN to explain this | 15:02 |
| pitti | jjohansen: thanks; and sorry | 15:03 |
| pitti | ok, I think I got the other umpteen kernels correctly | 15:07 |
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| apw | pitti, i think i'd vote for just leaving it | 15:39 |
| micahg | pitti: re lightdm-gtk-greeter> I've got one more thing to finish before I finish that, should be ready by 19:00 UTC | 15:59 |
| pitti | thanks | 15:59 |
| adam_g | is there an archive admin around who can bump the nova upload thru https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue ? the new binary package is just a launch script that was previously packaged with nova-console, plus a manpage and upstart job | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | pitti: do you recall what checks are done by apport before filing a bug in Launchpad? I'm looking at bug 960851 from a Zorin OS install | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 960851 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "package ubuntu-desktop 1.245 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960851 | 16:14 |
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| nxvl | seb128: is my desktop on precise supposed to be completely broken? | 16:18 |
| nxvl | seb128: i log in an i see nothing on unity or gnome3 | 16:18 |
| nxvl | didrocks: or it's your fault?? ^^ | 16:18 |
| didrocks | nxvl: before asking "who's fault it is" you should look at what you did upgrade | 16:19 |
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| didrocks | as there has been no unity upload at all in the official repo, I would doubt of it | 16:19 |
| nxvl | didrocks: the "fault" think was just a joke, not actually looking for whos fault is, sorry about confussion | 16:20 |
| nxvl | didrocks: i did an upgrade earlier this week and my desktop is completely gone | 16:20 |
| didrocks | no worry :) | 16:20 |
| dholbach | hey nxvl | 16:21 |
| nxvl | didrocks: is that known or just randomness? | 16:21 |
| nxvl | dholbach: hi daniel! | 16:21 |
| didrocks | nxvl: not known from here at least | 16:21 |
| didrocks | sorry, handling unity release, don't really have time for debugging it | 16:22 |
| didrocks | look at what you upgrade | 16:22 |
| didrocks | upgraded* | 16:22 |
| nxvl | didrocks: funny part, when i get to lightdm i get no icons, just blank squares with red 'x' | 16:22 |
| didrocks | there has been some new lightdm as well | 16:22 |
| pkt | Does i18n/keyboard.txt actually have any effect in ubuntu-defaults-builder / ubuntu-defaults-image ? | 16:39 |
| pkt | The context is that I 'm trying to build a localized image for Greek | 16:39 |
| pkt | and I noticed that in the resulting image there was no english keyboard :( | 16:40 |
| pkt | grepping the various scripts I see no reference to keyboard.txt besides verifying it | 16:41 |
| pkt | fwiw the source of the package is here: https://github.com/ubuntu-gr/ubuntu-defaults-el-gr | 16:42 |
| pitti | slangasek: are we planning to switch to a tmpfs /tmp/ in 12.10? | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | depends, you volunteering for the installer work? :-) | 16:52 |
| pitti | cjwatson: well, there are certainly programs to be fixed | 16:52 |
| pitti | I can instantly think of Firefox (uses it for downloads) | 16:52 |
| pitti | and presuambly also some CD burners | 16:52 |
| pitti | these should use /var/tmp/ for large things | 16:53 |
| pitti | cjwatson: OOI, what needs fixing in ubiquity? that's not somehing that sprang to my mind | 16:53 |
| pitti | (just got a question about it) | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | I think there's a reasonable argument that tmpfs /tmp ought to be selectable in the partitioner rather than mandated | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | and it may well require adjustment of autopartitioning limits and such | 16:54 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 16:54 |
| pitti | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-karmic-tmp-as-tmpfs refers to bug 386554 as a blocker, I haven't checked yet whether that's still current | 16:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 386554 in linux (Ubuntu) "System behaved as if OOM when it had plenty to spare" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386554 | 16:54 |
| pitti | so either way, it's not a trivial change for multiple reasons | 16:54 |
| pitti | I was just curious whether I was missing a spec, or a bug (there's none against mountall) | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | that was the canonical spec for it, I think, yes | 16:55 |
| pitti | but I'm fairly sure I read about it on some ML | 16:55 |
| pitti | or some bug, or other place | 16:55 |
| pitti | damn memory | 16:55 |
| pitti | parts of my brain are on tmpfs, too :) | 16:55 |
| stgraber | pitti: it was mentioned recently on the TB ML IIRC | 16:55 |
| pitti | ah, perhaps that one, thanks | 16:56 |
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| yofel | mvo: do you have a good suggestion on how to fix bug 944876? Just shifting the mapping is more of a hack than a fix, although s-p-kde would probably need a rewrite anyway at some point | 17:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 944876 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "changed mapping of release_upgrades_policy causes software-properties-kde to set the wrong policy" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944876 | 17:21 |
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| bryceh | @pilot in | 17:28 |
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| pitti | bryceh: enjoy the flight :) | 17:28 |
| cjwatson | ivoks: patch in bug 961166 - was that tested? there's a .. vs. ../.. discrepancy, which seems to be due to having backported only half of 8316bd2d9813cbc7b2b8288b6618eec2c2004028 | 17:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 961166 in live-build (Ubuntu) "lb_binary_disk doesn't check compression of the initramfs" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961166 | 17:31 |
| ivoks | cjwatson: let me revisit that | 17:32 |
| ivoks | cjwatson: ups... my bad, sorry | 17:32 |
| cjwatson | it might be worth taking the whole of that patch | 17:33 |
| bryceh | pitti, thanks, actually since we're nigh-frozen, probably just going to tend srus | 17:33 |
| pitti | bryceh: there might be a couple of universe fixes, too | 17:33 |
| pitti | but yeah, ther's a fair number of SRUs, too | 17:33 |
| bryceh | pitti, is universe not included in this freeze? | 17:37 |
| pitti | bryceh: it is, but it's feature/UI freeze just like main | 17:37 |
| pitti | but UI is "less" frozen for universe | 17:37 |
| pitti | the definition even says it doesn't apply to universe | 17:38 |
| pitti | and of course they are less dangerous usually | 17:38 |
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| bryceh | pitti, ok, thanks. I still plan to make srus my focus; like you say there's a lot of 'em. | 17:42 |
| ScottK | pitti: I thought the discussion we had a (few) weeks ago concluded in a general consensus that U/I freeze applied to everything (like FF), but that for unseeded packages that aren't in any docs package they would be trivially approved? | 17:44 |
| pitti | right, that's why I said "less" frozen | 17:44 |
| pitti | I haven't checked whether there are any UI breaks in teh sponsoring queue, and whether they have UIFE bugs | 17:45 |
| slangasek | agateau: are you sure 'libqt4-gui' is the package you meant to ask me for in bug #915801? Because libqt4-gui:i386 isn't installed (it's not a dep of skype:i386) | 17:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 915801 in sni-qt (Ubuntu Precise) "sni-qt seems to no longer let skype show up as an indicator in precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915801 | 17:47 |
| agateau | slangasek: ahah, maybe that is the problem | 17:48 |
| slangasek | really | 17:48 |
| slangasek | ? | 17:48 |
| agateau | is your skype package statically linked against qt? | 17:48 |
| slangasek | well, it's the stock package | 17:49 |
| slangasek | let's see | 17:49 |
| slangasek | $ ldd /usr/bin/skype |grep QtGui | 17:49 |
| slangasek | libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4 (0xf6b07000) | 17:49 |
| agateau | ah no, I was wrong | 17:49 |
| agateau | it is libqtgui4 | 17:49 |
| slangasek | ok | 17:49 |
| agateau | libqt4-gui is a transitional pacakge | 17:49 |
| agateau | *package | 17:49 |
| slangasek | ok, versions sent to the bug | 17:51 |
| pitti | this is really a curious one; sni-qt has worked fine here all the time | 17:54 |
| pitti | I wonder what the heck is different | 17:54 |
| pitti | (with skype) | 17:54 |
| ScottK | pitti: Right, but I think we need to update the definition on the wiki to match that. | 17:54 |
| slangasek | pitti: yeah, I'd also like to know ;) | 17:56 |
| slangasek | mvo: hey, do you have any time to talk about bug #876298? | 17:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 876298 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] We need to better handle external payloads (Flash, msttcorefonts) not being available." [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876298 | 17:57 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek: #962378 is making me cry | 18:03 |
| mdeslaur | bug #962378 | 18:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 962378 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "ca-certificates-java tries to call "java" binary before it's installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/962378 | 18:03 |
| slangasek | mdeslaur: that's not a new issue, the circ dep has been there for quite some time IIRC - what's making you cry now? | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek: I'm trying to fix bug #920758 | 18:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 920758 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu Precise) "DigiNotar Root CA still present in ca-certificates-java" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920758 | 18:06 |
| slangasek | and the circ dep is getting in the way of fixing, or in the way of testing the fix? | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | hrm, actually...just testing, so I'll work around it for now | 18:08 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: can we block new reports of bug #929219 please? launchpad is starting to creak | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 929219 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929219 | 18:08 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: the duplicate signature should check for that __nscd_get_mapping() call in any package, not just chromium-browser or eglibc; I just duped bug #929437 to it, which was reported via gvfs+software-center | 18:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 929219 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #929437 chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929219 | 18:10 |
| slangasek | mdeslaur: right - we may be able to improve handling of the circular dep, but I'd like doko to weigh in and he's out today | 18:11 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek: ok, thanks | 18:12 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: nscd_get_mapping only appears in the retraced stacktrace which isn't patternable. do you have another suggestion? | 18:14 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: heh, darn | 18:14 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: gethostbyname2_r() + the eglibc version may be sufficient? | 18:14 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: yeah, that should be enough to identify it | 18:15 |
| slangasek | libc6 version >= 2.15~, <= 2.16-0ubuntu6 | 18:16 |
| slangasek | sorry, 2.15-0ubuntu6 | 18:16 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: can you confirm if the perf regression is fixed in 1.0.1? nehalem, sandy bridge and ivy bridge all have aesni support | 18:38 |
| jhojho | so it's not a perf issue on those processors. | 18:38 |
| jhojho | the regression is on 64bit processors without aesni | 18:39 |
| pitti | jibel: would it be possible to re-trigger precise-upgrade-lucid-universe ? | 18:49 |
| pitti | jibel: as long as it fails, it "only" takes 1:45 hours | 18:49 |
| pitti | jibel: but we got that seed fix today which hopefully helps | 18:49 |
| pitti | jibel: (seed as in the package, for the libseed0 -> libseed-gtk3-0 transition and the gir1.0 mess) | 18:49 |
| jibel | pitti, it's in the queue and will start after lucid server. ETA 3min 9sec according to jenkins :) | 18:51 |
| pitti | jibel: thanks! | 18:51 |
| slangasek | pitti: what was the fix for seed, OOI? | 18:52 |
| slangasek | ah, pushing libseed0 out manually, ok | 18:52 |
| pitti | slangasek: we made libseed-gtk3-0 conflicts/replaces libseed0, to force the removal of libseed0 instead of trying to fulfill its dependencies in precise | 18:53 |
| pitti | it seems apt did not clean it up by itself | 18:53 |
| slangasek | yeah... it's a shame to need to do that | 18:53 |
| slangasek | but certainly quicker than figuring out why apt isn't happy to remove the lib :/ | 18:53 |
| pitti | well, I looked at that apt log for over an hour, and this seems to be the root cause | 18:53 |
| pitti | I guess if I do that ten times more, I'll write a script to graphvizise apt.log :) | 18:54 |
| slangasek | yeah, it's the root package cause certainly | 18:54 |
| slangasek | but the *root* cause is apt keeping an obsolete lib when it should throw it away :) | 18:55 |
| mvo | slangasek: sure, the bits in comment #22 ? | 18:56 |
| slangasek | mvo: well, and the merge proposal which I marked you a reviewer on :) | 18:56 |
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| mvo | slangasek: rigth, I was off yesterday and crazy day today, but let me scan over it | 18:57 |
| cjwatson | jhojho: my results are in the bug | 18:59 |
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| cjwatson | jhojho: based on the assertions I've seen that there was some deliberate slowing down of AES to defeat cache timing attacks, I'm reluctant to assume that slower is necessarily a showstopper here | 18:59 |
| jhojho | i see the bug report but no actual timings. | 19:00 |
| pitti | slangasek: yeah, workarounds'r'us | 19:00 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: that makes no sense as processors with aesni exhibit no slowdown | 19:00 |
| cjwatson | I posted timings from a Core 2 Duo and a Nehalem to the FFe bug | 19:00 |
| mvo | slangasek: I will reply in the bug and in the MP | 19:01 |
| cjwatson | Anyway, I'm not going to change it further before beta 2 at this point unless there's some kind of serious regression from 1.0.0g, so there should be plenty of time to collect data | 19:01 |
| jhojho | ah I see the timings now. let me go check them out. | 19:01 |
| cjwatson | I'm afraid I didn't post comparative timings from lucid; I can do that later if necessary | 19:02 |
| cjwatson | on the "one step at a time" principle I wanted to get 1.0.1 sorted out first | 19:02 |
| cjwatson | anyway, it's thoroughly pub time now | 19:02 |
| jhojho | please if you could. | 19:02 |
| jhojho | there is one thing I would ask for on the amd64 build | 19:03 |
| jhojho | its the inclusion of the config flag that turns things on for the google contributed elliptic curve code | 19:03 |
| cjwatson | well, let's talk with the Debian maintainer about that; 1.0.1-2ubuntu1 very significantly reduces the delta against Debian and I'm pretty happy about that | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | (makes it easier to maintain) | 19:04 |
| jhojho | for whatever reason, they made things so that you have to explicitly pass that flag. | 19:04 |
| jhojho | ok | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | that's "enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128"? | 19:04 |
| jhojho | yes | 19:05 |
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| dobey | actually i guess i should have asked that over here instead… | 19:13 |
| dobey | hrmm. is apport retracer blocked/disalbed for amd64 bugs? | 19:13 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: so the bugpatterns are regular expression would 2.15~pre work? | 19:18 |
| bdmurray | ah no also need one for 2.15-0ubuntu6 | 19:20 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: as a regexp, I'd do '2\.15\(~pre\|-0ubuntu[1-6]\)' | 19:21 |
| jhojho | cjwatson: it does look like things are a tad faster between 1.0.0 vs 1.0.1 | 19:22 |
| bdmurray | @pilot in | 19:34 |
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| jhojho | cjwatson: just installed to 1.0.1 and it looks like Lucid is still faster. here's the pastebin for lucid and precise (2 results, 1.0.0 and 1.0.1) http://pastebin.com/FG6mfabw | 19:35 |
| Sarvatt | jhojho: wouldn't that be dependent on the kernel instead? | 19:40 |
| jhojho | why? | 19:40 |
| jhojho | this is a userspace test. it has nothing to do with the kernel | 19:40 |
| Sarvatt | the fact the aes numbers dont change here either make me think its using the kernel aes stuff but i really have no clue | 19:41 |
| Sarvatt | sha1 rc4 md5 all change drastically | 19:42 |
| PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 19:44 |
| mvo | slangasek: I followed up in the MP | 19:48 |
| slangasek | mvo: seen, thanks | 19:48 |
| bdmurray | How does the app-install-data-ubuntu menu-data get generated? | 20:22 |
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| pitti | slangasek: sni-qt> *chuckle* | 20:47 |
| pitti | slangasek: I'm glad that the mystery is resolved | 20:47 |
| slangasek | pitti: :/ | 20:47 |
| slangasek | pitti: I feel bad now for wasting people's time | 20:47 |
| pitti | [ubuntu/precise] lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.1.4-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) | 20:47 |
| pitti | \o/ | 20:47 |
| slangasek | and am running debsums -s now :P | 20:47 |
| pitti | thanks micahg and mr_pouit ! | 20:47 |
| infinity | pitti: What, no love for the guy who put all the effort into pressing the "accept" button? | 20:54 |
| slangasek | infinity: not unless you can prove it was you who pressed it ;) | 21:00 |
| infinity | slangasek: There's a bug for that. :P | 21:01 |
| infinity | slangasek: And I can prove I filed it! | 21:01 |
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| Beret | I'm sure someone will pick it up eventually, but if a sponsor is lurking, I could use one for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/landscape-client/+bug/962448 | 21:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 962448 in landscape-client (Ubuntu) "update package to 12.04.2" [Undecided,New] | 21:10 |
| skaet | msg chanserv topic #ubuntu-devel Precise Beta 2 Freeze in Effect. Archive: pre-release freeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | build failures -> http://bit.ly/xmGdCW | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for hardy -> oneiric | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: bdmurr | 21:35 |
| skaet | ay, bryceh | 21:35 |
| bryceh | skaet, yes? | 21:35 |
| * Daviey paases skaet a / :) | 21:36 | |
| * skaet accepts the / from Daviey | 21:36 | |
| skaet | :) | 21:36 |
| * maco wonders if the linebreak indicates it wont all fit in /topic either | 21:36 | |
| bryceh | heh, max topic length? | 21:36 |
| Daviey | suck it and see. | 21:36 |
| * maco eyebrow | 21:36 | |
| skaet | it looks ok to me... | 21:37 |
| bryceh | yeah ok here too | 21:37 |
| maco | i dont see the topic as having changed... | 21:37 |
| skaet | topic seem to be longer than the line limit. interesting. | 21:37 |
| ScottK | Missing two letters off of the patch pilot's nick here. | 21:37 |
| * skaet edited out the redundant info about the Archive, Beta 2 Freeze in Effect pretty much summarizes it. | 21:39 | |
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| skaet | ScottK, better? | 21:39 |
| maco | skaet: wasnt bryceh also supposed to be a patch pilot? | 21:39 |
| ScottK | I only see bdmurray, | 21:39 |
| ScottK | Getting there. | 21:40 |
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| Daviey | \o/ | 21:40 |
| ScottK | There we go. | 21:40 |
| skaet | Thanks Daviey | 21:40 |
| skaet | sigh... | 21:41 |
| skaet | bryceh was on the last version i thought... oh well. sorted now. Thanks ScottK, maco. :) | 21:41 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 21:42 |
| bryceh | having it go over length is probably a sign the topic needs some cleanup ;-) | 21:46 |
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| slangasek | so um, why is libvte suddenly complaining about a missing /etc/termcap? | 23:11 |
| slangasek | (and as a result, failing to correctly handle PgUp/PgDn and others) | 23:12 |
| slangasek | gnome-terminal not restarted for 18 days; not sure if it needs restarted, or if trying to restart it is the worst idea ever | 23:13 |
| infinity | slangasek: I see no such whining from my xfce4-terminals (which also use vte) | 23:19 |
| infinity | slangasek: I say restart gnome-terminal, and if it all goes south, we'll see you from your console? ;) | 23:19 |
| bdmurray | @pilot out | 23:38 |
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| bryceh | @pilot out | 23:39 |
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