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broderScottK: looking at bug 852603 for lucid. hedgewars includes a haskell server, which our packages include, but i can't get the current server to build on lucid's haskell stack. sru seems out, given that01:15
broderwhat about a backport?01:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 852603 in hedgewars (Ubuntu Lucid) "hedgewars << 0.9.17 can not engage in network play with current release" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85260301:15
broderbackport with no server, that is01:15
ScottKbroder: Would that require backporting haskell stuff?01:47
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ScottKsomeone should merge gnash.03:43
ajmitchwhat goodies will it bring?03:44
ajmitchno new upstream release, so just to fix a CVE?03:44
ajmitchif noone else gets to it in the next hour or so I'll merge & upload then03:46
ScottKYes.  Fixing a CVE03:46
micahgI started on it04:00
micahggnash that is04:00
micahgajmitch: I got it04:00
ajmitchmicahg: ok04:03
ajmitchyou TIL so you know it best :)04:03
micahgyeah, only reason I didn't upload was I ran into a little trouble building the source package04:04
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* micahg thought he filed a bug for that04:09
* ScottK went through RC bugs and did some syncs for grave bugs.04:09
ScottKDidn't look.04:09
micahgnope, guess not04:09
ajmitchScottK: thanks, I'm going to try & hit up that rc bugs list over the weekend as well04:09
ajmitchdid you leave comments on the page?04:09
ScottKYes04:10
ajmitchgreat04:10
ajmitchit looks like we won't run out of things to do before release day04:11
micahgoh no, plenty to do :)04:11
micahgand there's always the 100k open bugs :)04:11
ajmitchand I thought you'd be able to have a nice, relaxing final week before release :)04:12
broderScottK: i was thinking of disabling the haskell stuff in the backport, which would also mean the release pocket package would have the (old) server, and the backport package wouldn't05:12
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alkisgHi, I'm using python-distutils-extra. I'm not sure if that's to blame, but in Lucid the auto-generated POTFILES.in is missing the files of certain directories, while in Precise it works fine.05:33
alkisgHere's my setup.py: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~epoptes/epoptes/trunk/view/head:/setup.py05:33
alkisgThe files from epoptes-client/ are missing, so I had to create a potfiles-workaround/ dir and symlink them there! :( Any ideas?05:33
micahgajmitch: test building openclipart overnight06:30
ajmitchmicahg: oh right, I hadn't checked up to see if that was uploaded :)06:34
* ajmitch had thought that sweetshark had taken the diff & was going to upload06:35
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dholbachgood morning07:46
ajmitchhi dholbach07:50
dholbachhi ajmitch07:50
toabctlcan somebody help with #960914 ? i'm unable to update my system now.08:17
dholbachtoabctl, you might want to ping mvo in #ubuntu-devel08:20
toabctldholbach, ok. thanks08:31
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ScottKbroder: As long as it's a separate binary for the server stuff, that sounds fine.11:00
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shadeslayerScottK: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu2~ppa1.dsc << New kile package that recommends texlive-latex-extra13:18
ScottKSure.  Let me have a look.13:18
ScottKshadeslayer: Did you talk to fabo about it?13:20
fabonop13:20
shadeslayernope13:20
shadeslayerfabo: a user emailed the ubuntu-devel-disucss that kile should recommend texlive-latex-extra, because kile doesn't work properly without it13:21
shadeslayersec13:21
faboshadeslayer: btw, kdevelop 4.3 is in the queue. I noticed that you're the last one to have touched it.13:21
shadeslayerhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/attachments/20120316/a2457c52/attachment.html13:21
shadeslayeralso : http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/43779/kile-will-not-work-on-ubuntu-utf8x-def/48272#4827213:22
ScottKshadeslayer: Also the changelog entry is a bit 'terse'.  Explain why the change is being made.13:22
shadeslayerfabo: uh  yeah, Riddell is doing KDevelop that right now13:22
shadeslayerScottK: oh sure ..13:22
shadeslayer-that13:22
ScottKPlease fix that and then work out with fabo if it makes more sense to do this here or in Debian.13:24
faboshadeslayer: have you checked the issue? we've clean up dependencies on 2.1.013:25
shadeslayersec, phone call13:25
shadeslayerfabo: back, yes, i've tested it and I got the same error without texlive-latex-extra13:44
shadeslayer( the same error as on stackexchange )13:44
shadeslayerand doesn't happen after installing texlive-latex-extra13:44
shadeslayerHere's a test document if you want to test : http://paste.kde.org/444584/13:44
shadeslayerthat's just one of the templates that kile provides13:45
shadeslayerotoh if I remove line 2, it works ....13:45
shadeslayerso I'd say since kile ships the template which requires utf8 support, we should pull in the extra package13:45
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WhoopieHi, I'm looking for a sponsor who could upload my sflphone package. It's regarding bug report 913018.13:51
Whoopiehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sflphone/+bug/91301813:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 913018 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "sflphoned crashed with SIGSEGV in std::__detail::_List_node_base::_M_hook()" [Medium,Confirmed]13:51
WhoopieI have added 2 patches to the sflphone package from Debian unstable so that it builds on precise. It would be a upgrade from sflphone 1.0.1 to 1.0.2.13:52
faboshadeslayer: or promote to Suggests to avoid to pull 28M (for referenc bug 577595)13:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 577595 in kile (Ubuntu) "huge list of dependencies for Kile" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57759513:53
shadeslayerheh, I like the reasoning, installing a latex editor shouldn't pull in shit loads of deps ... otoh I would also scream at upstream for having templates that pull in large deps13:55
shadeslayerok, lets demote it to suggests13:56
shadeslayerI'll poke upstream as to what can be done about the templates13:56
gesershadeslayer: probaly it's enough to replace "utf8x" with "utf8" in the template14:56
shadeslayeroh, whats the difference?14:56
geser"utf8" is included in texlive-latex-base (dependency of texlive recommends of kile)14:57
shadeslayerno I meant, what's the difference in the packages?14:57
geser"The supported encoding by the LaTeX team is utf8 and covers a fairly specific/limited range of unicode input characters. It only defines those symbols that are known to be available with the current font encoding. utf8x is not officially supported, but covers a much broader range of input symbols." (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Internationalization)14:58
geserwas about to answer your question :) the first part was an explanation why it might be enough for the fix (dependency-wise)14:58
shadeslayerright14:59
shadeslayerI've emailed upstream, will pass this new info along as well14:59
geserwhat the difference exactly is between utf8 and utf8x, I don't know14:59
shadeslayerwell, looks like support for more chars in utf8x15:00
geserbut perhaps "utf8" is enough for most people, and only those with special needs have to switch to "utf8x"15:00
shadeslayeryeah15:00
gesersome more input: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/13067/utf8x-vs-utf8-inputenc15:02
shadeslayeroh yay15:02
shadeslayerno need to add more deps15:02
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mfischtumbleweed: pin15:52
mfischerr ping15:52
tumbleweedmfisch: hi16:14
mfischtumbleweed: since upstream for python-djvulibre used a different fix, I think I can drop my FFe16:15
mfischtumbleweed: then is there a different process for just pulling a new rev from Debian?16:15
dholbachmfisch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess16:17
mfischdholbach: thx, thats what I needed16:17
tumbleweedmfisch: you might notice that the version uploaded to unstable doesn't build on precise :)16:17
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iamfuzztoon #engineering17:34
iamfuzztoobah17:34
broderScottK: it's not a separate binary - they're in the same package currently17:44
ScottKbroder: Considering we don't have not automatic on lucid, that's a bit concerning.17:44
ScottKIt sounds like there's no particularly good answer.17:45
broderScottK: i'm not particularly opposed to saying that there's just nothing we can do, but wanted to make sure that was the case first17:45
ScottKIf the game's not playable due to online game changes, something > nothing.17:45
ScottKbroder: I'm not sure I understand the situation completely enough to make a decision.  If the package in lucid is effectively useless, then I'd say go ahead.17:46
broderit's not useless. you can still do local lan play and possibly local AI play17:46
PaoloRotoloHi all!19:44
jtaylorScottK: I'm fearing the scipy maintainers are mia, is it really impossible without maintainer ack?19:50
ScottKjtaylor: Not impossible, just preferred.  If they aren't responsive, get barry to review it.  If he gives it a +1, I'll approve.20:46
WhoopieHi, could someone look at bug 913018 and maybe sponsor the sflphone package?20:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 913018 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "sflphoned crashed with SIGSEGV in std::__detail::_List_node_base::_M_hook()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91301820:59
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ajmitchusual rules, unseeded stuff gets waved through when the buildds aren't too full?21:13
tumbleweedyup, probably immediately21:13
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