/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/22/#ubuntu-testing.txt

AlexZionhi guys ; i installed few days ago , the beta1 of Kubuntu 12.04 on a vbox machine it works pretty well , but I got problem to upgrade package ..., and with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, I get an error..., saying try to use "apt-get -f install", byt when I do so , it looks like is gonna remove any package .....03:09
AlexZionsomeone had  a similar problem ?03:10
tristenwhey guys, how's it going?03:16
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SenanHow do I take part in ubuntu testing ?11:03
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PaoloRotoloHi all!19:44
balloonsafternoon Patrickdk20:30
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phillwballoons: do you have a moment or two?21:20
balloonsphillw, sure21:40
phillwballoons: Chris, our head of wiki at lubuntu is somewhat perplexed that there is very little information on Wiki areas for LightDM. Whilst this not really a QA issue, with the change to LightDM by ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu etc. He was wondering where / who he should ask / place information about it on.21:43
balloonsphillw, ahh.. good question21:45
balloonslightdm in general seems to be a big lacking on docs.. not that it's confusing to use persay, but seems pretty lowkey on the docs front21:46
balloons*bit21:46
balloonsthat said, the basic wiki info shell is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM21:46
balloonsI'm sure he found that21:47
balloonsafaik, nothing has been done or written since the original adoption of lightdm21:47
phillwI believe so, he mentioned it at the lubuntu meeting.21:47
balloonsif he is able, I would encourage him to add to and expand the docs21:47
balloonsif he needs a contact, he can talk to these folks: https://launchpad.net/lightdm21:48
phillwI think he was sort of asking permission to add to the "main" wiki area instead of the lubuntu area. He is that polite at times it is a bit embarrasing.21:48
balloonsrobert_ancell is also a good contact21:48
balloonsphillw, ;-) of course he has permission to add to the main wiki21:49
phillwI know... everyone has that permission, but he does ask!21:49
phillwI'll drop him an email (he's offline atm)21:49
balloonsthat's good.. it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to connect with that team and robert at least21:49
phillwexcellent, thanks :)21:50
balloonsyvw21:50
balloonshow'd the lubuntu crew due yesterday on iso testing?21:50
phillwMy qa mailing list has gone quiet, so I'm hoping things are progressing well. There was still a fail to install one one of the ppc systems - but he was really pushing it by setting up an encrypted /home. If they are experimenting to that degree things are looking good :)21:52
balloonshehe21:52
balloonsi'd say21:52
phillwThe last of the install sprint land tomorrow. So over the weekend I'm sure the guys will go check things. They really have taken the mantle up of filing bugs 'correctly' and linking them. I'm really proud of how far they have all come on on such a short time.21:54
phillwballoons: just to get it settled in my mind... when does the RC for beta 2 get generated? Is it on the cron job for ~ 17:00 23rd March?22:42
MrChrisDruifHurray, laptop is back online22:43
balloonsthe rc?22:43
phillwwb MrChrisDruif22:43
phillwballoons: Release Candidate22:43
MrChrisDruifThanks phillw22:43
balloonsi guess I'm confused.. the image for iso testing will come next monday22:43
balloonsI think22:43
MrChrisDruifballoons; I am the Wiki Head for Lubuntu phillw was talking about22:44
balloonsas far as when the images are built, I don't know.. I know it's scheduled, but I don't know the times22:44
balloonsaloha MrChrisDruif22:44
MrChrisDruifAloha ^_^22:44
phillwballoons: he is very good at wiki, I'm sure you will kidnap him for stuff on QA. He has already made fantastic inroads on tidying up the lubuntu area.22:47
balloonshehe22:47
balloonsour QA wiki always needs <322:47
balloonsgot a link to the lubuntu wiki?22:47
balloonsi'm curious to see the handiwork ;-)22:47
phillwhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation22:48
MrChrisDruifPlease note that I've only been tidying up mostly22:48
MrChrisDruifCurrently I want to update this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels22:50
phillwMrChrisDruif: do you have the link for alternate / mini iso installations to habd?22:50
phillws/habd/hand22:50
MrChrisDruifI already added *an* automatic command for removing old kernels, but I recently got a more humanly readable version from the team22:51
MrChrisDruifphillw; this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall22:51
MrChrisDruif?22:51
phillwIt needs putting on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu22:51
MrChrisDruifThe link to it you mean? Just like a link for removing old kernels22:52
phillwMrChrisDruif: that's the one.22:52
phillwIt really does need putting clearly on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu22:52
MrChrisDruifAh, right. I also cleaned that page up good the other day22:52
MrChrisDruifIt's already mention on that page phillw22:53
MrChrisDruifWith links to it from both the 11.10 && 11.04 sections22:54
phillwMrChrisDruif: my mistake, I had the old page cached in my browser. I have refreshed it22:55
MrChrisDruifGood boi22:55
* balloons is reading thru the lubuntu wiki22:56
balloonswow.. the lxde looks like a website22:57
balloonsI remember the first versions of it22:57
balloonsit's been so long22:57
phillwMrChrisDruif: while you are here and in great risk of being kidnapped, balloons is looking to re-write some of the QA area and we have been discussing how much of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing may be applicable to QA in general for new commers.22:58
balloonsit was in japanese .. the first site22:58
balloonsthe lead programmers homepage22:58
MrChrisDruifPCmanFM is Chinese afaik22:59
phillwballoons: that may be because pcman is Taiwanese? I know Raphael, our art guy, has learnt the language23:00
balloonsahh.. taiwanese.. that makes sense23:00
balloonsyes.. I'm sure it was his page23:00
MrChrisDruifPCman I mean, the programmer who made PCmanFM. Not his real name, I'm sure23:00
balloonssorry I was rambling while remembering it23:00
balloonsyes.. pcman :-)23:00
phillwballoons: he is a surgeon in one of the hospitals there.23:01
balloonssmall world.. I googledhim.. turns out he did the ie_tab extension23:02
balloonshttp://pcmanx.blogspot.com/ there he is23:03
phillwhe's a really patient guy. For someone to teach me how to install the stuff & carry out ./make commands is true testimant to that :)23:03
MrChrisDruif"For the novice, commands-line interface commands can appear daunting: sudo gobbledegook blah_blah -w -t -h --long-switch aWkward/ComBinationOf/mixedCase/underscores_strokes/and.dots"23:07
balloonsjust made me think about the IRC meeting time agai23:07
balloonsyou weren't there, but astraljava and I decided to take the top requested spots and have a poll on them.. I was a bit leery, but :-)23:07
phillwMrChrisDruif: lol, but so true.23:07
MrChrisDruifDoes anyone know if that GNOME Shell team ever got off the ground?23:07
balloonsso guess what the results are looking like so far? 2 for each option23:08
balloonsofc!23:08
MrChrisDruifphillw; it's straight from the wiki!! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:08
phillwMrChrisDruif: I recall editing that to include lxterminal for lubuntu?23:09
MrChrisDruifThey did? Because I really don't like Unity (not bashing, but I just don't) and I would like a version with just GS23:09
MrChrisDruifI think you are right phillw23:10
phillwMrChrisDruif: yup, that was me :)23:11
phillwMrChrisDruif: as of a posting at http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffeedproxy.google.com%2F~r%2Fd0od%2F~3%2F_0XQD2tbh0c%2F&h=wAQHxj8gkAQFSmrs-0xdDilV9jAHI2y3o52kJLNAuiYcBig23:14
phillwsorry for long post, it is from my linked facebook page23:15
MrChrisDruifAh, owkay23:15
MrChrisDruifWell, that wasn't exactly what I meant ^_^23:16
phillwhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/23:16
phillwshorter link.23:16
MrChrisDruifThere was a message on some mailing-list a few months ago to get a team together to make a new "flavour" or derivative with just gnome shell23:17
MrChrisDruifNot this old gnome stuff ;-)23:17
MrChrisDruifI got the heads-up with the upload to youtube23:17
phillwalthough OMGUbutnu have been known to screw things up before23:17
phillwMrChrisDruif: oops... I just realise we are in -testing .... can we head off to #lubuntu-offtopic before I get complained at?23:21
MrChrisDruifWhere ever you like phillw23:22

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