=== himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf [05:58] *yawn* [06:16] Yay. No train service from/to Amsterdam. [06:16] "We have a problem communicating with the signals and switches" [06:17] WFH! [06:19] "Expected to be fixed by 9:00" [06:20] mattt: I'm considering that.. or going by car and paying towering parking fees [06:24] how long's the drive ? [06:24] 30 minutes (45 with traffic) [06:24] I can also just go to work after 9 [06:24] :) [06:29] isn't this what you've been practicing for? just run! [06:37] ಠ_ಠ [06:39] Yay. estimate has been changed from 9:00 to "early afternoon" [06:39] Tempted to take a bike. [06:41] Yes. I'll do that. [06:51] run dammit run [08:23] Morning [08:23] \o [08:32] morning all === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [08:47] Morning all [08:55] G'morning! [09:03] Morning [09:06] Good morning peeps :) [09:11] Morning bigcalm_lappy [09:13] Hi DJones [09:13] morning all [09:50] davmor2, bigcalm_lappy: Just to confirm, I won't make it today :( [09:51] mrevell: a shame, I hope your family gets well soon [09:51] thanks chapo [09:51] And on that note, time for a bacon sandwich! [09:52] mrevell: shutup typing on here and go look after your kin ;) [09:57] Good morning, everyone! :D [09:59] Oh my, stary-eyed surprise [10:15] i like Jorge's google+ posts it assures me that i'm not the only nerd at my company ;) [10:15] * bigcalm_lappy wonders if davmor2 is being quieter than usual because one of his cow-orkers is here [10:16] have you guys set up a shrine to me in my abstinence? [10:16] absence [10:16] spellcheck = bad [10:17] lol [10:18] gord: why aren't you there? [10:18] gord: oi there are lots of nerds in your company mister! [10:18] release to kick out the door today :) [10:18] take that back ! [10:19] well, there are nerds, then there are those of us that have seen every episode of star trek: tng, stargate: all of them and buffy, among many others [10:19] czajkowski: you'll always be a rugby nerd in my heart [10:20] gord: the bacon sandwiches are missing you [10:20] bigcalm_lappy: :) [10:21] Damn, should have brought some floss with me [10:37] good morning everyone. [10:39] Morning [10:40] czajkowski: prod [10:40] davmor2: elo ello [10:41] czajkowski: should think so too :P [10:42] gord: make the blue message windows stop please........... [10:43] davmor2, update? should be a new notify-osd by now [10:43] gord: I'm on current [10:45] I'm on my last legs [10:46] davmor2, then i guess wait for an update :) [10:47] gord: you're an evil evil man I like it [10:51] davmor2: they still blue for you? did they ever go normal? [10:52] AlanBell: nope never went normal [10:52] ah, mine did [10:52] I use the snowdon image on the desktop though [10:52] was blue again a couple of days ago, then went back to normal [10:53] I use the default bruise [10:53] morning bigcalm_lappy [10:53] morning gord , davmor2 and AlanBell [10:53] morning brobostigon [10:54] i just found the ubuntu one, home dir backup in precise, it is a good idea. [10:57] All I ever hear about Ubuntu1 is people losing stuff. Kinda puts me off using it [10:57] i also use dropbox. [10:58] bigcalm_lappy: well, nobody's going to talk about how U1 just didn't delete all their files [11:01] bigcalm_lappy, its worth noting that all my ranting about u1 has always been because i'm on unstable releases :) [11:01] my notifications are the right colour now but the launcher is still blue [11:01] BigRedS: I'm struggling to find somewhere with a xoom in stock, I may have to go with a galaxy tab [11:01] bigcalm_lappy: That should have been fo [11:01] sorry bigcalm_lappy [11:02] Complete and utter tab complete fail there [11:03] wow, an update to chromium. [11:03] * brobostigon has been practising his sarcasm. [11:03] czajkowski, Are we giving @sil a holiday? [11:04] balor: no playing with blueptrints and needed one that wasnt going to cause too much trouble if I played with it [11:04] balor: conference limerick october. you're warned :) [11:06] czajkowski, I shall order my stab-vest [11:07] czajkowski, In Leinster colours [11:07] balor: you my dear can go...... [11:08] czajkowski, Is this conf to do with the city moving to OSS? [11:09] balor: no skynet - skyCon 20th Birthday :D [11:11] czajkowski, fun [11:12] DJones: currys no longer stocking them? [11:12] Could be why they were cheapish, selling off end of line stock [11:13] bigcalm_lappy: They don't seem to have any stock, same with Argos, tesco, pcworld (all selling at the same price) [11:17] Or I guess I could look at the xoom 2 [11:20] I wonder if the Xoom2 will get ICS in the UK any sooner than the Xoom [11:20] From what I read yesterday, no it won't, original xoom gets it first [11:23] I thought the Xoom already had ICS, I just had a customer report a problem with it at least. [11:27] Not yet, its due between March & May in the uk, but if you've got US firmware, they've been updated [11:28] aha thanks DJones :) [11:29] Hmmh, why does carphonewarehouse website tell me that the "ipad battery life" in the xoom 2 is 10 hours [11:30] because it actually has an ipad inside it [11:30] just like how vhs machines have dvd players inside [11:31] ali1234: I thought it was the iPad that had a Samsung Galaxy Tab inside/outside it (or is the other way round) [11:32] you are all wrong, the ipad has an iphone inside it and the rest is just a magnifying lens [11:36] Hmmh, xoom 2 seems to be somewhat more capeable than the galaxy tab [11:43] On the other hand, there's always the transformer prime [11:47] hah, ipad = iphone with frenzel lens [11:47] * dwatkins is reminded of the film Brazil [11:47] i have a friend who had one of those lenses in front of his pc screen about 10 years ago [11:48] I gather the head-up displays they are developing to fit into contact lenses will use fresnel lenses to focus the on-eye display [11:50] http://www.tomsguide.com/us/1-Pixel-Contact-Lens-HUD-implant,news-13298.html for the curious and non-squeamish [11:50] 1 pixel [11:50] so basically it's like shining a torch into your eyes? [11:54] Argh. Decisions, decisions [11:59] ali1234: morse code messages [11:59] like nokia talked about doing for SMSs [12:06] ali1234: it might send you Morse-code messages [13:11] Urgh, I've had to make time to write a document about taking time to consider time [13:11] haha [13:11] Somedays I just don't have the time for this [13:20] df -h [13:20] oops [13:22] Gigs and gigs of goat porn [13:22] ಠ_ಠ [13:24] haha [13:24] Just speculating [13:24] And forgetting that I'm not in another channel that is all about goat porn [13:25] find . -name goat\* [13:25] oh. dammit. rumbled [13:29] Woot! Quite nice when you see a device you dreamed up in an afternoon in a trade magazine [13:30] what device? :) [13:30] Is that the IPv6 keypad? [13:31] BigRedS: wouldn't that just be a hex keypad? [13:31] kirrus: LTO server thingy [13:31] Light Transmitting Organ? [13:32] BigRedS: http://www.ipv6buddy.com/ [13:32] kirrus: Tape drive :) [13:33] MartijnVdS: yeah, that one [13:33] BigRedS: Showing it to our network guys now :) [13:33] MartijnVdS: it's actually a genuine produict [13:34] despite the site looking an awful lot like a scap [13:34] scam [13:34] * BigRedS can't type today [13:41] * davmor2 prods bigcalm_lappy oi :P [13:41] * bigcalm_lappy falls asleep [13:42] * davmor2 prods bigcalm_lappy oi :P [13:42] Hey, I'm trying to sleep here [13:42] * davmor2 prods bigcalm_lappy oi :P [13:43] * bigcalm_lappy glares [13:43] bigcalm_lappy uses GLARE. It's super-effective! [13:43] bigcalm_lappy: it's a cow-orkers day not a fall asleep day [13:44] Good burger this [13:44] maybe its co-naptime [13:46] Despite it looking like it, this isn't pre-school [13:48] Burger Time is apparently a very entertaining arcade game. [13:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BurgerTime [13:49] i need to nap as an adult *way* more than i ever needed to as a child [13:52] I've had two naps in the past six months. [13:54] dwatkins: I think you should get some more sleep [13:55] dwatkins: burger time, isn't that a few hours after beer o'clock? [13:55] beertime is anytime, burger time is fixed. :( [13:56] bigcalm_lappy: you're right, 7 hours isn't enough [13:56] Sat, Sun are nap days. 14:00 -> Zzz :) [13:57] Visiting my parents this weekend. It'll be another 2 solid days of WordPress support [13:58] bigcalm_lappy: .. yay [13:58] :) [13:59] could be worse, bigcalm_lappy - could be MS Word support ;) [13:59] I tend to help my dad out with his XP installation and backup issues when I'm there [13:59] I pay Bytemark 18 quid a month for a virtual machine for my own use. How much should I charge a club for hosting their website? [14:00] Whatever they're able to pay ;) [14:00] gord: you'll be happy to know that I've got hic-ups again today [14:00] MartijnVdS: I'm trying to be sensible about this [14:00] Thinking a yearly cost of £not_much [14:00] bigcalm_lappy: what do "web-only" hosters ask? Would £10/month be too much? [14:00] £100/y [14:00] ? [14:01] I think they are currently paying £80 / year for their hosting [14:01] 75 then? [14:05] With "personalised" support :) [14:05] IE they can poke you when it doesn't work [14:06] That's the thing, I'm just one man with a VM [14:07] I'm doing this for my dad who is in the club [14:07] I host three sites all for free :) [14:07] <-- sucker [14:07] I host sites for my family for free. But I have no connection with this new thing [14:08] So don't want to be taken for a ride [14:08] Ask for £30 or something then [14:08] I take it that it's very low bandy/disc usage [14:08] A month? Good idea [14:08] I have no idea what the bandwidth usage will be on this site yet [14:08] I'd ask your dad if he knows the people ? [14:09] Is there a reason for you hosting it over last people ? [14:09] Which reminds me, need to set up Google Analytics [14:10] The current person is about 79 and inter-club politics are going silly. Hence my dad setting up the new site [14:10] \o/ politics [14:17] I need sleep [14:17] bigcalm_lappy: so get some! [14:18] I would, but davmor2 threatens to throw things at me [14:18] bigcalm_lappy: so lock him in a drawer [14:19] COFFEE! [14:19] Oh, maybe a mocha this time [14:19] MartijnVdS: 2 flaws to your plan, out of the to of us I'm more likely to hurt him, and I'm 6ft2in that's a big draw [14:20] most irritating bug known to man - it just randomly crashes when alt tabbing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/926379 [14:20] Launchpad bug 926379 in mesa (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in intel_miptree_release()" [Critical,Triaged] [14:21] czajkowski, what we call, a driver bug =\ [14:21] driver eh [14:22] drives a user insane [14:22] :) [14:22] gord: what about the white squared with Chrome notification popups? [14:22] MartijnVdS, iruno [14:23] * MartijnVdS gets huge white rectangles sometimes [14:23] argh, what was the fix for griub>unknown filesystem when using 12.04? [14:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/940603 [14:24] Launchpad bug 940603 in unity (Ubuntu) "white box randomly shows up at top left corner blocking applications from using stuff under it" [High,Confirmed] [14:26] oimon: boot from live cd and chroot in and reinstall grub [14:26] ok, the usual way then :D [14:27] wow, in grub mode, this vaio is cooking REALLY hot [14:31] * czajkowski pages popey to the bridge :) [14:31] hmm? [14:32] conference call [14:35] * christel tickles ali1234 [14:35] er oops [14:35] i meant to tickle AlanBell [14:35] :x [14:35] poor ali1234 [14:35] haha [14:35] * bigcalm_lappy waits in line for a typo tickling [14:35] * popey tickles BigRedS [14:35] * AlanBell is duely tickled [14:35] AlanBell: You're ali1234 ?!?! [14:36] * bigcalm_lappy grumbles [14:36] no, I am sparticus [14:36] No, I'm sparticus [14:36] http://www.thatsnerdalicious.com/food-porn/french-fry-coated-hot-dog-on-a-stick-lunch-time/ [14:36] feeling peckish [14:37] popey: http://www.pizza.co.uk/ [14:38] dominos.co.uk [14:38] when i was a kid and we got chippy, i'd hollow out the middle of the massive saussage and put chips in there, it was glorious [14:40] I miss turkey sticks [14:40] twizzlers [14:40] No, not these [14:41] AlanBell: bigcalm_lappy: sit down I'm sparticus [14:41] Cubes of breast meat and onion alternately on a wooden stick, battered and deep fried [14:42] More of an 80s thing I think [14:44] deep fried onion? [14:44] sounds...lovely [14:44] you called? [14:44] I'm full and really don't need this cake [14:44] Tasty is my downfall [14:45] Did the same last night with steak & onion rings, followed by apple crumble [14:45] bigcalm_lappy: "Eat it, just eat it eat it ha" [14:46] deep fried oimon. [14:46] on a stick. [14:46] AlanBell: did we settle on a lunch venue for tomorrow? :) [14:47] i hate the ubiquity bug where the details terminal window is too small and you can't see why the installation has stalled [14:48] deep fried onion.. [14:48] surely that works? arent onion rings deep fried? [14:48] Yes [14:48] Yes, but they're rings [14:48] not cubes [14:48] haha [14:48] A lot more batter/less onion [14:48] Unless they're tiny cubes [14:49] *nod* [14:51] * bigcalm_lappy looks at the cake infront of him [14:51] Ug [14:52] the cake makes you ug?! [14:52] Ugg cake [14:54] christel: I was already full of tasty burger before I started on the cake [14:54] MartijnVdS: anything like Ugg Boots? [14:54] bigcalm_lappy: probably [14:54] * bigcalm_lappy nods [14:56] ah i had biscuits for lunch [14:56] i was going to have pasta [14:56] only by the time i remembered that i was cooking pasta it had been boiling away for 40 minutes [14:56] (duh) [14:57] VERY soft pasta :) [15:00] Whoops [15:00] * AlanBell checks the weather forecast for tomorrow [15:00] looks nice and sunny [15:00] AlanBell: I can tell you now there will be weather [15:01] looks like a nice day for sitting outside [15:02] ☹ [15:02] * popey will be sitting inside a crematorium ☹ [15:02] :( [15:07] fI used to have a Firefox plugin that'd tell me which bits of a page took how long to download and render. Anyone know what it was? I Can't find it in the Add-ons search thing... [15:08] BigRedS: firebug [15:08] BigRedS: fire bug [15:08] Then look in the Net tab [15:08] and Yahoo made a plugin for that.. uhr.. yslow [15:08] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/yslow/ [15:09] Is pagespeed another one? [15:09] could be [15:09] Or is that just a google made apache mod? [15:09] sounds like it anyway :) [15:10] AlanBell: yeah it is supposed to be lovely! [15:10] popey: that does not sound like the best place to spend the day :/ [15:10] indeed [15:10] my best friends' mum ☹ [15:11] :( [15:12] Oh! I didn't realise Firebug did that [15:12] pagespeed is an Apache mod [15:12] That's what I thought [15:13] One that looked good for a while but ended up caining my server and breaking my websites [15:13] yeah [15:14] popey: i am sorry to hear that [15:16] is it possible, to link the calendar dropdown, in unity's data time applet, to google calendar? [15:19] yes [15:19] how? [15:20] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleCalendarWithEvolution [15:21] thank you popey, but last time i tried, evolution didnt scale on my eeepc's screen, and was unable to set it up. [15:21] popey: Ask chrisccoulson to do the same with Lightning will you? ;-) [15:21] brobostigon: you only need evolution to setup the connection [15:21] you could plug in an external display temporarily ☺ [15:22] popey: that would be possible, yes. [15:25] there used to be some kind of smaller mode for evolution [15:25] evolution express maybe? something like that [15:25] i will look, [15:28] Hello, somone else have more problems with fan noise in the Pangolin beta? [15:32] nope [15:32] what kinda problems [15:33] czajkowski: fan sound started to get louder but can be my fan in this 2-3year old pc thats started behave wierd [15:33] also alt + tab don't work but that is already reported by people: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/955859 [15:33] Launchpad bug 945816 in compiz (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #955859 [regression] Changing the HUD shortcut disables all Alt-based combinations. And changing the Dash shortcut disables all Super-based shortcuts." [Medium,Fix committed] [15:41] I've broken davmor2 [15:41] oh dear [15:41] why.... [15:41] It's quite amusing [15:42] Looks like he's about to start drooling [15:42] He was trying to remember how old he was in 2001 [15:42] bittin: is your CPU activity really high for some reason? that might make it run hot which will speed the fan up [15:43] Stack over flow I'm guessing ;) [15:43] christel: TheOpenSourcerer: if it is sunny I like the idea of the shepherd & flock [15:43] and it looks like it will be nice [15:43] AlanBell: no my load is 0.5 [15:43] and htop says 8 and 6 % [15:46] AlanBell: christel - Yeah - we can breath in the fumes from the traffic on the roundabout ;-) [15:47] * bigcalm_lappy pokes Rackspace support with a stick [15:47] root@ubuntu:/home/bittin# fancontrol [15:47] Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ... [15:47] Error: Can't read configuration file [15:47] wonder if that has anything to do with it or if iam thinking wrong [15:48] AlanBell: sounds good to me, will it be dreadfully noisy? :) [15:50] fan1: 1255 RPM [15:50] fan2: 1010 RPM [15:50] Core 0: +43.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) [15:50] Core 1: +40.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) [16:03] Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1 works better then i tough it would on this box :p [16:05] Was that an /amsg ? [16:26] christel: the beer garden behind the pub is not at all noisy [16:27] ooh there's one tucked away behind as well, i assumed it was just the seats you can see when you drive past! [16:28] yup, there are seats front and back [16:28] gnome-panel on 12.04 is almost awesome :D [17:31] * AlanBell installs Oracle 11g :( [17:32] * MartijnVdS cries for AlanBell === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [18:47] evening [18:48] what's a virtual dedicated server? [18:48] ali1234: it's virtually dedicated [18:49] http://i.imgur.com/zqb84.jpg [18:49] aww yeah learning to snowboard <3 [18:49] :D [18:50] daftykins: that looks like an unhealthy relationship [18:51] the board, it beats me [18:51] D: [18:54] ali1234: perhaps it means not-a-container [18:56] http://i.imgur.com/gvGKk.jpg [18:58] wat [19:00] O_O [19:01] No? [19:08] may go to my local tonight to watch over the students playing the quiz [19:08] maybe this time i'll shut up and not make a team win by giving two answers right at the end [19:08] they grabbed their winnings said bye to me and left! :O [19:08] :o [19:08] students.. [19:09] indeed [19:09] though, i was one just 4 years ago [19:09] so i'm currently the "why is he so young" shifty regular sat at the bar talking to strangers [19:09] :> [19:10] "Get of my lawn!" [19:10] well technically i'm the outsider here in England [19:10] :D [19:10] daftykins: isn't England your lawn? :) [19:10] only forced to be here to fix up and sell my house ¬_¬ [19:10] MartijnVdS: no sir [19:10] i'm a Guernsey man [19:10] not-quite-Frenchman ;) [19:12] precisely! [19:12] French-mutation as my dear Irish friend puts it [19:48] * dwatkins is a foreignner everywhere [19:49] dwatkins: how's that? [19:50] nm must go - pub quiz o'clock! [19:51] ciao daftykins [19:51] (born in Switzerland, grew up in England, living in Scotland) [19:51] ah-har! :) [19:54] * AlanBell boots Oracle Enterprise Linux [19:58] unlucky [19:58] * MartijnVdS hands AlanBell something to collect his tears in [19:58] or with [19:59] the buttons are on the wrong side! [19:59] they are right? [20:11] hello [20:12] !ping [20:12] another contentless ping... sigh... [20:12] BT Wholesale has hijacked my browser connection [20:13] hello TonyNorfolk [20:13] Taking Red Hats trademarks off Red Hat to make Oracle Linux seems a little cheeky. [20:13] http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=oracle says they do this anyway [20:13] Hello, does anyone have any idea why GParted Editor wont load? [20:13] is it possible to share links to u1 music store? [20:13] dwatkins: centos do it [20:13] ali1234: it used to be, yes [20:13] used to be? [20:13] why isn't it any more? [20:13] dunno if it still is [20:13] popey: oh I thought Centos was kinda like opensuse to suse/sles, the test version [20:13] http://62.6.38.125/index.html the whole web redirects there on port 80 right now [20:13] oh, ok [20:13] dwatkins: no, centos is just like oracle [20:13] well, how do i do it? [20:14] I see, popey :) [20:14] TonyNorfolk: do you get an error from it? [20:14] and scientific linux [20:15] dwatkins: I am a new Ubuntu user - 1 week! and loving it. I click on the GParted Icon and it comes up with the authenticate message, I put my password in and then nothing happens. [20:16] TonyNorfolk: cool, welcome :) are you running off a USB stick/CD image, or have you installed to your hard drive? [20:16] dwatkins: sles->opensuse, red hat->fedora [20:17] today I learned that centos isn't what I thought it was and that my bicycle light is pretty useless in the dark :) [20:17]