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quiescensand then if it is in a file of its own, you could dpkg -S00:00
gurgalofhaz3lnut, it does not, OMG i have no drives00:00
quiescensfirst run of blkid needs sudo00:00
Xorxeok00:01
KatronixHi all, for an Ubuntu server, what do you have to do to get php to re-load the php.ini file?00:01
haz3lnutgurgalof: you have to sudo blkid00:01
gurgalofhaz3lnut,  then it shows, /dev/sda1: UUID="365ea073-fc25-45f5-ade1-b0170e9fc236" TYPE="ext4"00:01
wyldeKatronix: restart your webserver, if it's apache2 sudo service apache2 restart00:01
gurgalofhaz3lnut, nothing more00:02
douglaslucascryptotheslow: I'm running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" again00:02
haz3lnutgurgalof: than you have no disks00:03
cryptotheslowdouglaslucas:  was just about to suggest that :)00:03
haz3lnutapparently /sys/block/zram0/disksize sets the size of this magic disk00:03
CharminTheMooseI'm trying to removve /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/framebuffer and plymouth scripts, but they keep on getting created everytime I run update-initramfs. How do I stop this from happening?00:03
quiescenstechnically it sets a maximum, or "apparant" size00:03
douglaslucascryptotheslow: now "dpkg -s ubuntu-restricted-extras" says "Status install ok installed" :)00:04
gurgalofhaz3lnut, true, I am on flash :P00:04
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cryptotheslowdouglaslucas: happy days :)00:04
haz3lnutI'm going to set this size to 1gb and reboot.00:04
haz3lnutbrb00:04
quiescensi doubt that will do much00:05
GhostConni need help with plymouth manager in ubuntu 11:1000:05
vVREDVvHey any one know where I can manually download the unity rotate plugin? (latest version)00:06
Evil_OttoThe GUI upgrade tool keeps gacking out on me about the time it runs into a particular configuratin file that is different than it expects it to be.  Can I upgrade from 10.04 to latest from the command line?00:06
haz3lnuthmmm, resource busy. any ideas?00:06
GhostConn?00:06
quiescensyou can't set its size while it is already in use00:07
haz3lnutbut if it's not mounted, I can;t unmount it!00:07
quiescensI didn't say mounted00:07
quiescensswap partitions aren't mounted00:08
quiescensit is likely in swapon -s00:08
kionHow do I create a launcher on Unity?00:08
quiescensyou could swapoff the device00:08
haz3lnutumount: /dev/zram0: not mounted00:08
kionI installed the latest version of Blender and cant seem to create the launcher!00:08
haz3lnutyep swapoff worked00:08
quiescensi would probably grep -r zram /etc00:08
wyldehaz3lnut: maybe sudo service zramswap stop00:09
haz3lnutquiescens: it's in /etc/blkid.tab00:10
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wyldehaz3lnut: any chance you have a zramswap.conf in /etc/init?00:11
haz3lnutwylde: no service00:11
haz3lnutwylde: nope00:12
wyldehaz3lnut: bugger .. >.<00:12
haz3lnutblkid.tab is a new one to me00:12
wyldehaz3lnut: any references to compcache?00:13
shaneohey guys im trying to create a self signed server.crt and server.key but get this error unable to write 'random state'00:13
shaneoe is 65537 (0x10001)00:13
shaneousing openssl genrsa -des3 -out server.key 102400:13
xezekalanother application seems to be using the package system at this time...  How do i stop that message?00:14
quiescenshaz3lnut: if it really is because of your backports thing then it is likely in /etc/init/zram-config.conf but if it isn't, then i don't know where you got it00:14
haz3lnutI found this: http://ubuntu.mindseeder.com/11.10/#zram00:15
wyldexezekal: don't run 2 package managers at the same time?00:15
haz3lnutapparently zram is also compressed00:15
quiescensthat was the first thing i said00:16
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mcruzERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.00:16
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mcruzsomeone help please00:17
const_antineHi, a ./configure script for one of the programs I'm trying to install is using pkg-config to check glibc version, and by default Ubuntu doesn't have .pc file for glibc. Is there something I can do before writing my own?00:17
almoxarifemcruz: need a working imap server? gmail?00:18
mcruzconst_antine is that program pg_top right00:18
haz3lnutI can't believe out of 1500+ nics in this channel, I'm the only one who discovered this zram device.00:18
wyldemcruz: or make sure you're using the right credentials to login. Check your username/password for typos00:18
mcruzalmoxarife its a local mail server00:18
const_antinemcruz, no it's vinagre and pidgin00:19
mcruzok try apt-get install glibc600:19
xezekalubuntu software manager was running.....00:19
mcruzapt-get install glibc-2.10-100:19
const_antinemcruz there's no package called anything like glibc00:20
shade34331I am trying to ssh into an ubuntu machine but I keep getting this error message, no hostkey alg, any help?00:20
const_antinethere's libc6 though00:20
mcruzconst_antine yes there are00:20
mcruztype apt-get install glibc and then TAB00:20
mcruzyou will see00:20
const_antineNote, selecting libc6 instead of glibc-2.10-100:21
const_antineThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:00:21
const_antine  linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic linux-headers-2.6.32-33 libhttrack2 libvpx000:21
const_antineUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.00:21
const_antineThe following extra packages will be installed:00:21
const_antine  libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i68600:21
FloodBot1const_antine: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:21
quiescensconst_antine: if you are having to do a ./configure and compile, you need the dev headers for whatever library it wants, you likely already have the library itself00:21
const_antine?00:22
const_antineyeah i probably do00:22
wyldeconst_antine: tried apt-get build-dep <packagename> ?00:23
const_antineit's just that ./configure is using pkg-config to get the paths and compiler flags, and theyre set in .pc files00:23
const_antinepackagename is 3rd party outside synaptic repositories00:24
wyldeconst_antine: ahh, right. My bad.00:24
trismconst_antine: are you sure it isn't checking for glib, not glibc?00:24
trismconst_antine: in which case, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev00:25
const_antineconfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.28.0 gio-unix-2.0 >= 2.28.0 gthread-2.0 >= 2.0.0 gtk+-3.0 >= 3.0.3 gnome-keyring-1 libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.31   ) were not met00:25
const_antineuhh00:25
const_antineyou're right00:25
const_antinehmm00:25
const_antinetrism: Couldn't find package glib-2.000:27
trismconst_antine: see my second line, libglib2.0-dev00:27
GhostConnany hear frimiliar with plymouth manager00:28
const_antinetrism: thanks, got the package00:30
alteregoahi after installing 3.3 kernel, gui shows only a white screen00:30
trismconst_antine: no problem00:31
obbeTest00:31
almoxarifealteregoa: and?00:32
alteregoacan't login to gdm00:32
alteregoais there a way to fix this?00:33
itaylor57alteregoa, how cant you be running a 3.3 kernel in ubuntu?00:33
almoxarifealteregoa: can you get to a terminal at all? ctr-alt-f1?00:33
alteregoai got a z68 cpu, and older kernels have problems with it00:34
alteregoayes  i got terminal window00:34
almoxarifealteregoa: I am assuming that you know what to do from the terminal if you are smart enough to play with experimental kernels, yes?00:35
alteregoaalmoxarife yes i think so00:35
almoxarifealteregoa: btw, I decided to do the same thing, worked mostly, some kernels just wouldn't , 3.2-18 didn't work for me, no idea why00:36
alteregoaim sure its just a little config change00:37
AcidRainwhat is a good software for linux to burn dvd titles and main menu to image file?00:37
alteregoabecause it uses a new intel gpu driver00:37
almoxarifeAcidRain: the installed one?00:37
AcidRainalmoxarife: ... whats it called?00:37
AcidRainnvm found it. DeVeDe is what i was looking for00:38
almoxarifealteregoa: I saw that, good if you have the hardware to use it, good luck00:38
almoxarifeAcidRain: brasero?00:38
almoxarife!brasero00:38
AcidRainno. brasero will burn images to disk. thats not what i want00:39
almoxarifebrazero00:39
AcidRainme install/remove apps is broken it appears00:39
almoxarifeAcidRain: sorry00:39
AcidRainit wont let me install anything from it00:39
dubac0hej00:40
dubac0http://paste.ubuntu.com/894502/00:40
dubac0why is rythembox not loading and how to solve this?00:40
BryanRuizwho the hell stuck a php 5.4 cli on my machine?00:41
BryanRuizwas it any of you!00:41
slappycan anyone recommend an app similar to roboform ?00:42
Praxiwhy not roboform?00:42
haz3lnutBryanRuiz: you caught me.00:42
BryanRuizim trying to figure out where i got a php 5.4 binary from, anyone have any ideas?00:43
BryanRuizthis is what i get for enabling repos on my machine i bet00:43
slappyonly thing i could find was roboform lite and when i installed it the roboform toolbar was greyed out00:44
alteregoait seems to be installing xorg 2.18 from xiorg edgers00:44
shade34331I'm having an ssh problem...can anybody help me with it?00:44
Praxi!ask | shade3433100:45
ubottushade34331: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:45
BryanRuizsomehow i got php5.4 installed and im not sure how, but i need to go back to php5.300:45
BryanRuizanyone have any ideas?00:45
AcidRaini think installing skype has crashed my ubuntu software center to where it wont install anymore apps00:46
AcidRainvery odd00:46
AcidRainanyone know a fix?00:46
shade34331I have a few ubuntu machines that I can't ssh into it. I get the error no hostkey alg when I try from any machine in our lab but ubuntu machines. I also have three ubuntu machines that I can ssh into just fine from any computer00:46
haz3lnutAcidRain: have you tried g+ hangouts?00:46
AcidRainhaz3lnut: could you explain a little more what that is?00:47
AcidRainrunning sudo aptitude install works fine, and installs packages. but i dont wnat to do that unless i have to00:47
Praxigoogle+ hangouts00:47
Praxicompetitor to skype00:47
haz3lnutAcidRain: google+ hangout allows for audio video chat like skype, but without mickeysoft in the middle.00:47
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AcidRain...00:48
AcidRaini dont like skype. honestly. what i want is my software center fixed :)00:48
Praxitried google+ today with the boss, it was pretty nice, had to admit.  was honestly suprised my camera worked in ubuntu without me having to futz with something00:48
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shade34331any ideas as to what my ssh problem is?00:48
AcidRainwell everything worked out of box on my ubuntu 10.04 box with skype00:49
AcidRainbut... software center is broken, its been broke for about a week00:49
BryanRuizhmm i need a way of fixing php install using apt00:49
PraxiAcidRain, did you kill skype?  did you restart?00:49
BryanRuizanyone know of one?00:49
haz3lnutshade34331: ssh -v might shed som light00:49
AcidRainskype is uninstalled now, i have restarted, but would prefer not to do it again. i have too many servers to rerun00:50
BryanRuizcan i reinstall a package without uninstalling all its dependinces?00:50
PraxiAcidRain, never having done it, can you run software center from a terminal? and does it give any additional details?00:51
AcidRainBryanRuiz: sudo aptitude install --reinstall packagename00:51
AcidRainPraxi: what is software center called so i can do this?00:51
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shade34331haz3lnut: one sec and I'll show you what it says00:51
* ryizzwell breakfast00:52
ryizzwellhi everyone00:52
BryanRuizthanks AcidRain, looks like its now aptitude reinstall packagename00:52
PraxiAcidRain, software-center00:53
ryizzwellwhat package?00:53
TeamRocket1233cHi guys!00:53
ryizzwellhi00:53
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shade34331haz3lnut: http://fpaste.org/OjK3/00:53
ryizzwellanyone understand python here?00:53
TeamRocket1233cWanna give Unity a shot whenever I can. That a bad idea, since everyone tends to have such a hardcore hatred towards Unity?00:54
ryizzwellunity?00:54
OerTeamRocket1233c, unity is great.00:54
Canadian1296Is it possible to compile python into an executable program, rather than just a script, so it can run on computers without python installed?00:54
PraxiTeamRocket1233c, this is my first serious attempt at replacing my windows box with ubuntu, and I uninstalled unity hehe00:55
BryanRuizFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-cli_5.3.6-13ubuntu3.6_amd64.deb: Unable to connect to localhost:8888: [IP: 127.0.0.1 8888]00:55
BryanRuizE: Internal Error, No file name for php5-cli00:55
ryizzwelli see00:55
BryanRuizwhy is it connecting to localhost?00:55
BryanRuizfor apt reinstall00:55
TeamRocket1233cPraxi: I'm a bigger fan of GNOME 2, GNOME 3 Fallback, Openbox, LXDE, and Xfce though.00:55
TeamRocket1233cPraxi: And Fluxbox, after playing with it on Tiny Core, looks pretty sweet too.00:56
ryizzwellkde or gnome is the best?00:56
Praxiis ryizzwell a bot? seems to parrot a lot hehe00:56
TeamRocket1233cryizzwell: Well, if you want a more Windows Vista-like feel, KDE's better, but GNOME's pretty good too.00:57
ryizzwellim not bot00:57
triscuitThat's what your programmer told you to say isn't it?00:57
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TeamRocket1233cryizzwell: And if you don't like GNOME Shell, you're not entirely out of luck, as G3 has a Fallback mode that gives you a GNOME 2-style desktop.00:58
PraxiLOL triscuit, made me spit up my soda, you broke me!00:58
almoxarifeBryanRuiz: been playing with dns re-direction?00:58
collinjsimpsonhahah00:58
triscuitlol praxi00:58
BryanRuizalmoxarife: my stupid proxy app messed up my machine somewhere00:58
BryanRuizalmoxarife: i have no idea how to fix this00:59
BryanRuizit isnt my proxy i dont think, otherwise the internets would be broken00:59
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ryizzwellim not bot00:59
AcidRainplz turn your ryizzwell bot off00:59
AcidRainno bots here :)00:59
ryizzwellim superbot00:59
AcidRainlies00:59
Praxinice!00:59
TeamRocket1233cWho has a bot on?00:59
almoxarifeBryanRuiz: your stupid proxy app is point ubuntu.com back to 127.0.0.1, not good00:59
AcidRainnoob-bot00:59
ryizzwellwakakakka why you called me bot01:00
BryanRuizalmoxarife: nah i think im wrong, i dont think its that01:00
BryanRuizalmoxarife: im not sure what is going on01:00
AwesomeNerdhi01:00
collinjsimpsonhe's a sly bot, isnt he.01:00
BryanRuizalmoxarife: when i ping the same url, it works01:00
AcidRaintriscuit: sup lol01:00
TeamRocket1233cBryanRuiz: almoxarife : Me neither.01:00
Praxisomeone bust out with the turing test01:00
collinjsimpsonPraxi:  hahah01:00
AcidRaini thought i was in #jk channel for a second :)01:00
almoxarifeBryanRuiz: what proxy app you using?01:00
BryanRuizalmoxarife: charles, but im not using it01:01
almoxarifeBryanRuiz: alrighty then01:01
TeamRocket1233cAlso, Flubuntu (Fluxbox Ubuntu) wouldn't be a bad idea.01:03
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Praxiuhoh  ./configure —prefix=/opt/gimp-2.7.201:04
BryanRuizis that pointed at me TeamRocket1233c01:04
Praxioops E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.01:04
TeamRocket1233cBryanRuiz: It's pointed at anyone, actually.01:04
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TeamRocket1233cBryanRuiz: Just saying, since there's already Kubuntu, Lubuntu, and Xubuntu, why not put out a Flubuntu?01:04
TeamRocket1233cAs Fluxbox honestly, isn't bad.01:05
ratcheerTeamRocket1233c: It sounds like a disease.01:06
BryanRuizwhere is the file that manages my repositories sources?01:06
BryanRuizrepo*01:06
TeamRocket1233cratcheer: Flubuntu is short for Fluxbox Ubuntu though.01:06
ratcheerTeamRocket1233c: I understand, but it still sounds more like a disease.01:06
TeamRocket1233cratcheer: Not a bad concept, the name could use some work.01:07
ratcheerTeamRocket1233c: Yes, I know some OpenBox users who are saying they like FluxBox, better.01:07
TeamRocket1233cratcheer: And I played a little with Fluxbox in Tiny Core and really like it.01:08
almoxarifePusPox?01:08
BryanRuizso im doing this: wget http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release.gpg01:09
shade34331haz3lnut: I'm sorry had to step away for a second so I didn't catch if you said anything01:09
BryanRuizand its connecting to localhost, why is that?01:09
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TeamRocket1233cratcheer: Not the biggest fan of FLWM though.01:09
almoxarifeBryanRuiz: because you have a dns re-direction app running?01:09
BryanRuizah.. did netbeans screw up my system01:09
_pg_san101:10
_pg_fkc01:10
ratcheerTeamRocket1233c: I use OpeBox with lxdm01:10
_pg_so I changed the password for the user account on my ubuntu machine, and now I cant ssh into it. what have I done?01:10
TeamRocket1233cratcheer: And the WM's and DE's that I think would make great replacements for GNOME for the distros and OSes still on GNOME 2 are Openbox, Fluxbox, LXDE, and Xfce.01:11
_pg_there was no restart after I changed it either. so I think i broke something. how can I fix this?01:11
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Guest93206hi01:12
ratcheerTeamRocket1233c: Don't forget Enlightenment01:12
* TeamRocket1233c would honestly like to see OpenIndiana, GhostBSD, Debian, RHEL, CentOS, Scientific, or Solaris with Fluxbox or Openbox as the standard desktop.01:12
* TeamRocket1233c Although Crunchbang technically IS Debian with Openbox as the standard desktop...01:12
* _pg_ loves #! :P01:13
TeamRocket1233c_pg_: #!'s my fave distro! :)01:13
IWantFroyoTeamRocket1233c You sir are a scholar who is awesome. I support #!.01:13
* almoxarife decided that something had to give when every change to a panel required yet another tweak from a ppa, installed plasma-desktop and has never looked back, plasma-desktop has more tweaks avail than there are days in the month01:13
TeamRocket1233c_pg_: Fedora and Ubuntu are second and third. No opinion on Tiny Core really.01:14
TeamRocket1233cIWantFroyo: I'm running #! on ancient hardware.01:14
_pg_I couldnt believe how much #! changed between statler and *updated statler01:15
TeamRocket1233cIWantFroyo: And intend to put Tiny Core on a PC that's a tad newer, but has less RAM.01:15
IWantFroyo_pg_ it didn't seem to change much to me. Just newer browser/switch to firefox, and dock at top.01:15
BryanRuizjust resarted almoxarife to make sure i have nothing running, but still anything at CLI is redirecting to localhost:888801:15
BryanRuizany idea whats goin on?01:15
TeamRocket1233cIWantFroyo: My Crunchbang system: PII~266 with a12 megs of RAM. The Tiny Core target system: Celeron~433 with 63 megs of RAM.01:16
TeamRocket1233cIWantFroyo: *128 megs*01:16
_pg_IWantFroyo: new login manager, geany, my favorite theme gone01:16
_pg_lol01:16
CharminTheMooseI'm trying to removve /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/framebuffer and plymouth scripts, but they keep on getting created everytime I run update-initramfs. How do I stop this from happening?01:16
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_pg_so does anyone know how to fix what ive done? changed user/admin password and now cant login remotely over vnc or ssh :/01:17
IWantFroyo_pg_ I did like that theme. Switched to carbon, though.01:17
_pg_IWantFroyo: carbon huh? ill have to check that out.01:18
Ben64_pg_: this might be a silly question, but did you type in the new password to login to ssh01:18
IWantFroyo_pg_, there are some pretty awesome themes bundled.01:18
IWantFroyo_pg_ I missed the old theme at first, but after checking the others out I never went back.01:18
_pg_Ben64: yes lol but does changing the password via the settings panel update the ssh and vnc pass01:19
TeamRocket1233c_pg_: So what's your fave distros?01:19
_pg_or are they used to generate the keys that no longer match?01:19
Ben64i don't use the settings panel, but ssh by default uses the user's password01:19
_pg_Ben64: i havent restarted since,01:20
Ben64doesn't matter01:20
_pg_Ben64: ssh service hasnt been restarted, so how can it know about the new pass?01:20
Ben64this isn't windows, you don't need to restart for simple things like changing a password01:20
_pg_Ben64:  and why would that break regular vnc? which is a different pass altogether?01:20
Ben64depends on vnc server, some might use the user's password as well01:21
n00b4lyfeBen64: lol.01:21
_pg_TeamRocket1233c: #!, xubuntu, mostly stick to those01:21
_pg_Ben64: vino-server01:21
Fernandoshi01:21
_pg_TeamRocket1233c: i love how well #! runs on anything.01:21
TeamRocket1233c_pg_: : Cool! Mine are #!, Fedora, Ubuntu, and possibly Tiny Core.01:21
Fernandoswhere is the ubuntu package maintainer/creator/learning channel?01:22
chaos9Join #chaos901:22
_pg_TeamRocket1233c: i could never get into fedora. rpms... meh01:22
chaos9Opositor01:22
_pg_apt is just so sexy01:22
TeamRocket1233c_pg_ What about BSD, OpenIndiana, OpenSolaris, etc?01:22
Oerlets stay ontopic, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please01:22
_pg_oh yeah so back to my unreachable server. cry01:23
TeamRocket1233cOer: Sorry.01:23
chaos9Ops,  sorry!01:23
Ben64did you close the ssh session01:23
Fernandos#ubuntu-dev???01:23
_pg_Ben64: i cant ssh in. i get Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).01:24
Ben64that didn't answer the question01:24
_pg_i didnt *have* a session01:24
_pg_i couldnt get past the auth01:24
Ben64how did you change the password then01:25
_pg_i was sitting at it01:25
Ben64then walk over there and fix it :|01:25
_pg_lol obviously not there anymore. when i can get beck to it, do I just changeit back to what it was?01:26
Ben64you must have done something besides change the password01:26
Oer_pg_, does the old password still work ?01:27
_pg_no. i tried that01:27
AcidRainlol. changed password but didnt hit accept ;p01:27
_pg_Ben64: i really dont think i did.01:27
AcidRainhax01:27
AcidRain_pg_: i found a exploit in ssh. you want me to tell you password of your system?01:28
_pg_....01:28
AcidRain=)01:28
AcidRainonly with your permission of course01:28
* _pg_ thinks "its a trap"01:28
AcidRaini wont lie, it is a trap01:29
_pg_akbar was right01:29
AcidRaina trap with hax!01:29
gurgalof:P01:29
_pg_AcidRain: just tell me the exploit and ill check it myself lol01:29
Ben64there isn't oen01:29
Ben64one*01:29
* _pg_ knew it01:30
Ben64try logging in from another system01:30
_pg_ive tried from 201:30
gurgalofcould be 0-day exploit, but higly unlikely01:30
_pg_wait01:30
_pg_there was one thing01:30
Ben64also, what kind of 'server' do you have that you can sit at, but not all the time?01:30
_pg_this machine said ***WHOA WHOA WHOA RSA KEY CHANGED BRO*** and it had, cause i had uninstalled and reinstalled open-ssh server since because i couldnt get into it awhile ago. but i tested it earlier today and it was working01:31
_pg_so i deleted the known hosts file here01:32
_pg_so it would recreate it fresh right?01:32
_pg_Ben64: just my home machine thats on all the time01:32
Ben64then walk to it :|01:33
_pg_oh wait, except Im not there lol01:33
_pg_and even if I were i wouldnt know how to fix it01:33
TeamRocket1233cAny way for GRUB to notice a Linux install on another drive?01:33
Ben64the opposite of what you did to break it01:33
gurgalof_pg_, why not at home?01:33
Ben64changing passwords doesn't break ssh or vnc01:33
_pg_Ben64: it seems to have lol01:34
_pg_gurgalof: cause im just not at home right now01:34
Ben64well it doesn't01:34
TeamRocket1233cBecause I tried to dual-boot #! and TC earlier, with #! on my pre-existing 10-gig hard drive and TC on my spare 8-gig drive, and GRUB didn't recognize the TC drive.01:34
Ben64what is #!01:35
_pg_Ben64: are there common things that do break ssh and vnc?01:35
Ben64and who decided to name something so terribly01:35
ssfdre38how can i get the php5 ftp from apt01:35
TeamRocket1233cBen64: #!: Crunchbang. TC: Tiny Core.01:35
gurgalof_pg_, oh right :P I should sleep right now, its late...01:35
ssfdre38just so you know apt-get install php5-ftp is not working01:35
_pg_does this error message "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)." help at all? Ben6401:35
gurgalof_pg_, for a moment i thougt why are someone not at home at night, but doesnt mean there is night everywhere01:37
_pg_gurgalof: its night here. but im still not at home01:37
Ben64_pg_: something wrong with your public key, probably01:37
Ben64try getting rid of it and using password only01:37
gurgalofnight everyone!01:38
_pg_Ben64: if i just apt-get autoremove open-ssh server and reinstall it, is that the easiest way?01:38
_pg_thats what i did last time I broke it01:38
Ben641. stop breaking it01:39
Ben642. learn how to fix mistakes instead of wiping01:39
TeamRocket1233cWelp, I'ma go now, I'll be back whenever. See 'ya guys! :) -wave-01:39
* _pg_ cries01:40
Ben64reinstalling ssh probably started the problem you're having now01:41
zoarukihi people, i've just installed ubuntu. could you tell me about a good source code editor?01:41
zoarukipreferably one that supports various languages01:41
_pg_zoaruki: sublime text 2, geany, netbeans01:42
BryanRuizcant curl, cant wget, can ping, can nslookup, whats going on?  everything keeps redirecting to localhost:888801:42
zoaruki_pg_: ok, thank you01:42
ssfdre38BryanRuiz, did you check your hosts file to see what is set up?01:43
BryanRuizssfdre38: i did check my hosts file, but i didnt see anything unusual01:43
_pg_zoaruki: what are you going to be doing?01:43
BryanRuizill try again though01:43
zoaruki_pg_: i'm aiming to learn C++, as i already know python :P01:44
BryanRuiznope ssfdre3801:45
BryanRuizim willing to send someone $50 bucks if they can help me with this01:46
gurgalofzoaruki, emacs....01:46
_pg_zoaruki: good luck with that! check out sublime text 2. so nice01:46
sambagirlhow can i burn an extra 15 mb to a cdrom that is 700mb?01:46
_pg_thanks for the help Ben64. im going to go home now.01:46
_pg_peace01:46
sambagirlthe iso is exactly 715mb01:47
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starnhey i had an kinda crazy idea and wonder if it's possible and if so how to do it.. but ubuntu in 3D my video card supports the old style red and blue or other coloured glasses and i'm now wondering if ubuntu can do this01:49
gurgalofsambagirl, maybe this will work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153122801:50
sambagirlis there an alernative to brasero?01:50
sambagirlthanks gurgalof?01:50
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Ben64you probably can't burn 715MB to a cd safely01:51
sambagirlyes overburn doesnt work in brasareo01:51
gurgalofoverburn is not safe anyway +15MB extra is a bit on the edge01:52
sambagirlben64 the provelm is that the server doesnt read dvd but the drive is a cd/dvd and it reports it in bios but it wont read a dvd. i dont understand that to good01:52
philllllijwCan anyone suggest a good way to set up my partitions (and fs types) for an 80gb drive with 1GB ram?01:52
neonkidDo any of you know how to make a RumblePad 2 work with VBA?01:52
pr0metheu5Is anyone else having problems transmitting audio through hdmi?01:54
neonkidMake sure that it's set as the output in the sound settings pr0m01:55
Jon--Got my monitor replaced on my laptop. Get "cannot load screen config" on boot. It then loads and works fine but slows down my bootup and is annoying. How can I fix this? Ubuntu 11.1001:56
pr0metheu5neonkid, I don't even see it as an option in the sound settings.01:56
neonkidpr0m try restarting, and are you sure it's supposed to carry sound?01:57
pr0metheu5neonkid, i've restarted several times, and what do you mean carry sound?01:57
pr0metheu5it works fine under my windows installation01:58
pr0metheu5it wasn't even an issue until 11.1001:58
neonkidHave you tried googleing it?01:58
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pr0metheu5yes, haven't been able to find a solution anywhere01:58
neonkidThat sucks, sorry I'm stumped01:59
pr0metheu5could it be secluded to xubuntu?01:59
pr0metheu5you think it might start working again under ubuntu?01:59
gantryHas anyone tried to install cinnamon 1.4 from the repository?02:00
gantryI get his error when I try to add the repository http://pastebin.com/Nkg18DnE02:01
pr0metheu5I think it might be because xubuntu is not recognizing my nvidia as a sound card02:02
pr0metheu5I have nvidia optimus on my laptop, which really sucks02:02
pr0metheu5does anyone have any experience with nvidia optimus and drivers for it under ubuntu?02:02
gurgalofpr0metheu5, which laptop?02:02
pr0metheu5Samsung RC42002:03
pr0metheu5made a horrible decision to get a samsung02:03
pr0metheu5had a dell xps before, linux was a dream to run on it02:03
pr0metheu5that sentence made no sense, I mean it ran ubuntu perfectly02:03
pr0metheu5nvidia optimus? nobody?02:05
redtornadogreetings02:05
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gurgalofpr0metheu5, my laptop has optimus, but hdmi audio works out of the box02:05
pr0metheu5gurgalof did you install drivers for it?02:05
gurgalofpr0metheu5, nope02:06
pr0metheu5bumblebee, ironhide, nothing?02:06
pr0metheu5what distro are you running?02:06
gurgalofpr0metheu5, only think i have done is acpi_call to turn off powerto the nvidia card02:06
gurgalofpr0metheu5, running ubuntu 11.1002:06
collinjsimpsonHow can I set up shared permissions (bindfs) on directories but maintain a quota on it? Could I mount a filesystem with a fixed size somehow?02:07
Jon--Got my monitor replaced on my laptop. Get "cannot load screen config" on boot. It then loads and works fine but slows down my bootup and is annoying. How can I fix this? Ubuntu 11.1002:07
redtornadoIm running ubuntu 11.10 on a old pc. I did a fresh install (no other os, just ubuntu) on a 60gig hdd. i just came across a 80gig hdd which ive connected successfully as the slave drive. how do I go about adding this drive to my current ubuntu setup. would like to use it as extra space.02:08
redtornado** formatted the drive. it is now ext3 file system02:08
BryanRuizso02:09
gurgalofJon--, http://alexcovac.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-configure-Xorg-in-Ubuntu , try this!02:09
BryanRuizi have a proxy configured on my machine somewhere02:09
BryanRuizwget --no-proxy works but wget does not02:09
BryanRuizwhere is this coming from?02:09
gurgalofNow i really got to go sleeping, 3AM here....02:11
* gurgalof is sleeping02:11
redtornadoor does a new formatted hdd (ext4) just work w/ubuntu when its mounted?02:11
redtornadoIm running ubuntu 11.10 on a old pc. I did a fresh install (no other os, just ubuntu) on a 60gig hdd. i just came across a 80gig hdd which ive connected successfully as the slave drive. how do I go about adding this drive to my current ubuntu setup. would like to use it as extra space. I formatted the drive. it is now ext4 file system. is that all i need to do?02:14
BryanRuizi found it!  there is an environment variable set on my machine called: http_proxy=http://localhost:8888/02:15
BryanRuizwhere is this being set??02:15
BryanRuizits causing everything from apt-get to wget and curl to break02:15
philllllijwtry /root/.bashrc02:17
redtornadoIm running ubuntu 11.10 on a old pc. I did a fresh install (no other os, just ubuntu) on a 60gig hdd. i just came across a 80gig hdd which ive connected successfully as the slave drive. how do I go about adding this drive to my current ubuntu setup. would like to use it as extra space. I formatted the drive. it is now ext4 file system. is that all i need to do?02:18
redtornadoshould io be asking this in another room? sorry to re-send02:18
redtornado*I02:19
ssfdre38redtornado, just mount it onto your system02:19
gurgalofredtornado, that should be all you need to do02:19
GhostConndose anyone know anything about plymouth manager?02:19
redtornadook, great. as long as its ext4 correct?02:19
ssfdre38any format that was allowed to you would work02:20
gurgalofredtornado, it could be other filesystems aswell, but ext4 is fine02:20
atpa8ahmm02:21
atpa8ahello02:21
zoarukidisconnect02:21
zoarukilol02:21
redtornadoexcellent, thanks. I wasn't sure if i would have a problem dl'ing/installing ubuntu stuff on it.02:21
atpa8awhat's a good MTA to just send everything to MX?..02:21
Wildbathmmm, need help on installing sun-java. http://pastebin.com/cvi4Fk1R << done this but can't help. "Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package."02:24
WildbatP.S. Ubuntu 10.0402:24
collinjsimpsonHow can I partition an unformatted hard drive to store shared directories for users? (bindfs)02:26
gantryanyone here understand how add-apt-repository works?02:26
sambagirlhttp://pastebin.com/h8efNuuz every laptop i have with ubuntu is haveing this error....i have a new one coming but not till friday but i hate to rebuild something. is there a simple solution to resolve these errors? they are all the same...02:30
sambagirli cant install anything on any of the laptops02:30
sambagirlit had to do with the upgrade02:31
sambagirlthey all failed i think.02:31
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ArcchyI have a small issue, I just installed ubuntu *kinda migrating to windows*, I plugged in my MP3 Player and yet I see no music files on my device02:33
axisysi don't get the dash .. here is the pastebin of .xsession-errros http://paste.ubuntu.com/894587/02:33
Arcchymigrating from windows* sorry02:34
CFHowlettArcchy   it sees the device but not the files?02:34
axisysis there a way to fix it short from reboot? ctl+alt+del kills the session and I relogin .. still no dash.. tried few times02:34
ArcchyCFHowlett yup02:34
CFHowlettArcchy   what device?02:34
ArcchyIt's a sansa 2gb device CFHowlett02:35
sambagirlblah02:36
zoarukithis should be pretty obvious but i cant get it working and it's starting to annoy me.02:36
CFHowlettArcchy   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128786002:36
zoarukiwhen you introduce the password for "su root" or "sudo" what should you do to indicate the shell you have finished writting?02:36
tom_hello. where do I ask a question about sound drivers?02:37
zoarukienter doesn't seem to work lol02:37
ouyesis there any lan file transfer tool, which can transfer files between two machines running ubuntu via the wired network cable, so it is very fast02:37
rewireouyes: you could use FTP02:37
philllllijwouyes, just set up static IPs on each and they should just act like 2 computers on a network02:37
axisyshere is my desktop with no dash imgur.com/7sv3j02:38
ArcchyCFHowlett, I don't wish to use it with rythembox, just nautilus which is what I'm having issue with.02:38
CFHowlettArcchy   noted ... looking in forums02:38
Arcchythank you.02:39
GhostConn?02:39
tom_looking for a sound driver for SRS pc sound on an msi A6500 notebook02:40
GhostConndose anyone know anything about plymouth manager?02:42
GhostConni keep getting black boot screens its so annoing02:42
GhostConnonly with linux lol02:42
ArcchyGhostConn, just a black screen?.. what's wrong with that some distros dont even have boot screens to begin with02:43
GhostConnits only bugging me because i have sat hear for the past 3 days trying to find the cause lol no matter what .plymouth splash screen i install it will only show up when i shutdown02:44
GhostConnand during boot up i get a back screen until login02:44
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ArcchyCFHowlett any luck? :)02:48
tom_Arcchy, how do you get someones attention?02:49
Arcchytom_ What do you mean?02:50
CFHowlettArcchy   one would think but sadly no.  Seems many people had problems with sansa but few solutions are provided.  Pleased ask the channel every 20 minutes or so02:50
ArcchyAh, okay thank you CFHowlett02:50
CFHowlettArcchy   does your player show up as a mass storage device?02:51
GhostConnany help arcchy?02:51
GhostConnor someone02:51
ArcchyNo CFHowlett, it shows up as 2.0 GB Filesystem02:52
ArcchyGhostConn, no I typically try to stay away from messing with boot files sorry.02:52
CFHowlettArcchy   that's not right unless there's a filesystem on it ...02:52
GhostConnno worries thank tho02:52
zoarukii fixed my problem by using "sudo" instead of "su root". i dont understand yet why the last command doesn't recognize my pass02:52
quiescenssu requires the password of the user you are changing to02:53
tom_Arcchy, I am used to 10.*.*LTS, but my newer notebook is less than supported by it. I get better operation from 11.40 but I don't know my way around.02:53
mustermarkArgh, i need help. Wubi is on the fritz and i'm in this IRC on irrsi from tt102:53
mustermarkI really don't feel like reinstalling for the third time either.02:54
GhostConncan you reccomend a music player better then banshee,audacious,rhythmbox,songbird,gnome player ect... what im really after is an itunes alternative lol. I absolutely HATE itunes weird i know ... the only thing i do like about it is the cover flow02:54
zoarukiquiescens, but there is only one user in the system02:54
bazhangmustermark, whats the exact issue02:54
bazhang!players > GhostConn02:54
ubottuGhostConn, please see my private message02:54
mustermarkthe thing works fine for about too boots and then refuses to start a graphical interface02:54
bazhangGhostConn, no polling here please02:54
mustermarkusing wubi ubuntu 11.1002:54
bazhangmustermark, yes, you said that. error messages would make troubleshooting possible02:55
tom_i mean 10.4002:55
haz3lnutGhostConn: http://getnightingale.com/02:55
mustermarkbazhang: there aren't any unless you can point me to a relevant log file. It would show a purple screen, then display a single underscore.02:55
GhostConnsorry guys and thanks to all for the help :) I really appreciate it02:56
haz3lnutGhostConn: or the only other not in your list would be amarok02:56
bazhangmustermark, is it running out of space?02:56
CFHowlettmustermark wubi is for *testing out* ubuntu.  It should *not* be considered a long-term installation solution.  So sayeth the developer.  See dual-booting02:56
bazhangmustermark, check the wubi guide for either moving the wubi install to the hdd, or re-sizing the wubi install02:57
bazhang!wubi | mustermark please have a read02:57
ubottumustermark please have a read: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe02:57
haz3lnutGhostConn: it's odd though, because if you didn;t poll hee, I don;t know where you'd poll. there isn;t a #ubunu-poll channel02:57
tom_what terminal command can I use  to see the sound drivers in Ubuntu10.40?02:57
ArcchyCFHowlett, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68520060/Screenshot%20at%202012-03-21%2019%3A53%3A14.png, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68520060/Screenshot%20at%202012-03-21%2019%3A53%3A21.png02:58
mustermarkbazhang: is there a way in the terminal to report on hdd space?02:58
GhostConnlike i said im sorry guys honestly I just needed answers lol02:58
GhostConnI have been looking for this for 3years now02:58
arkaniadLet me just fire up Firestorm.02:58
haz3lnutmustermark: df -h02:58
bazhanghaz3lnut, sure there is02:59
bazhang!poll02:59
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:59
bazhanghaz3lnut, ^02:59
mustermarkCFHowlett: I guess I could throw ubuntu onto a disk and install it proper, but my harddrive is a tiny ssd and I like the convenience of knowing I can easily throw ubuntu off if i needed to03:00
CFHowlettArcchy   I suspect the proprietary filesystem is mucking up your access to the device.  Fix?  Well, depends.  If you have the original disks on hand and know how to restore the oem filesystem, I'd format teh entire thing as ntfs03:00
mustermarkand i ran the command haz3lnut provided, I still have 3gigs of space03:00
GhostConnok upon downloading Nightingale 1.11.0   how do i install a tar.bz2 file? simply extract it and add it to my usr/lib?03:00
CFHowlettmustermark consider a light weight distro then x/l/ubuntu.  should take much more than 4 gigs fully installed ...03:00
haz3lnutbazhang: not exactly opinion based, we could have googled for a list.03:00
mustermarkCFHowlett: hah, i guess i could. Is slackware still around?03:01
CFHowlettmustermark I wouldn't know ..03:02
ArcchyCFHowlett, Hmm..most of my stuff is from various things over the years, would have to go to a windows machine to back up03:02
ArcchyCFHowlett, thank you though will try that suggestion03:02
haz3lnutwhat if we wanna get ineteractive opinion on most user's favorite irc client or music player?  no help in channel?03:03
CFHowlettArcchy   sorry I couldn't direct you to a smoother solution.  Good luck03:03
ArcchyCFHowlett no problem, have a nice night everyone.03:03
mangdoodI think my trash is corrupted; one of the directories has files that point to unknown inodes; how can I fix this?03:05
tom_HELP, how do I check [see] the sound driver in terminal?03:06
mustermarkbah, i'll install my good old friend arch linux and see where that takes me. Thanks guys <33303:06
CFHowletttom_   find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd03:06
CFHowletthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting03:07
CFHowlettlspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"03:07
bazhanghaz3lnut, #ubuntu-offtopic for that interactive opinion and chat type discussion. here is technical support03:09
haz3lnutbazhang: LOL03:11
bazhanghaz3lnut, whats funny?03:11
haz3lnutbazhang: "technical support"03:12
tom_what does this tell you?               lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"03:12
tom_00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 131403:12
tom_Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 109a03:12
tom_Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 4103:12
tom_Memory at feb44000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]03:12
FloodBot1tom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:12
tom_Capabilities: <access denied>03:12
tom_Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel03:12
CFHowletttom_   tells me we need to acquaint you with the custom know as "pasting".  Please read the following ...03:13
CFHowlett!paste>tom_03:13
ubottutom_, please see my private message03:13
tom_sorry people, newbie03:14
CFHowletttom_   also, in answer to your earlier query, HDA Intel is your sound kernel03:14
tom_do I go to intel for a proper driver. I have no sound.03:17
CFHowletttom_   probably not - use the sound trouble shooting link I sent you.  Following the steps should yield a fix.03:18
tom_thanks.03:18
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CFHowletttom_   take your time ...03:19
bazhangtom_, unmute them in alsamixer would be step one03:19
mangdoodSo my filesystem isn't corrupt, according to fsck, but I still have files that I can't unlink and don't point to any valid inode. Where should I start?03:20
douglaslucashow do I open xorg.conf with gksudo ?03:21
soreaudouglaslucas: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:22
bazhangdouglaslucas, gksudo gedit03:22
douglaslucasthanks03:22
Loshkimangdood__: I'd start by backing up anything on that disk that you can't live without....03:27
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sankethey hi everybody03:34
CFHowlettsanket   greetings03:34
satyanashWhat is the Internic Network ?03:40
zenithzephyrhihi03:48
Flax_Is there some sort of program that lets me draw directly onto the screen?03:48
Flax_Like, an overlay03:48
jadoeFlax_: there is a compiz plugin for that, I think03:49
addy_hello all03:49
Flax_jadoe, Thanks. I'll try looking around for it.03:49
addy_i m new in ubuntu does any body famielier with it03:49
bazhangaddy_, yes of course03:50
jadoeFlax_: plugin Annotate in compiz-plugins-extra03:50
bazhangaddy_, better to narrow it down from know anything about ubuntu to something more specific03:50
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addy_bazhang:hello i know last time chat please tell me i m unabel to install software form download package of wine03:51
Flax_jadoe, Thank you.03:52
bazhangaddy_, what s the error paste.ubuntu.com with the error message and give us the url03:52
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addy_bazhang; i don't have internet conection at my laptop in ubuntu i download this software in other computer and take with help of pendrive and paste it to my ubuntu laptop and i dont know how to install03:53
mangdood__Flax: It should come with the package by default, last time I checked03:53
reasearcher123how to install Adobe Flash player downloaded as  .rpm03:54
reasearcher123!RPM03:54
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)03:54
Flax_Got it.03:54
addy_banhang: 1 more thing i my wireless connection is disabel by me by unknow command could u plz tell me command to reabel it03:54
mangdood__addy_, right click the network manager and reenable networking and wireless03:55
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mangdood__addy_, if you are using a graphical desktop manager03:56
bazhang!offline | addy_ please read this03:56
ubottuaddy_ please read this: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD03:56
addy_mangdood:actually it not appear when i try enabel networking is shown with RIGHT mark but wireless is know shown it remaint in hidden03:57
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addy_ubottu: actually i don't have internet connection in my laptop so how can i download script03:58
ubottuaddy_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:58
gmachine_24good evening earthlings. does anyone know how to have today's date added to the name of a tar file being created when backing up a system e.g. backup.date.month.year.tar.gz there is a way to have the date added automatically03:58
mangdood__addy_, is the computer you are on IRC with the same as the one you want to install packages on?03:58
bazhangaddy_, you have an internet connection with this computer. please read thelinks I gave you first03:59
addy_bazhang:offline yes i wanna to install commands03:59
bazhangaddy_, did you read all those links?03:59
mangdood__gmachine_24, you could write a script03:59
gmachine_24mangdood_, yes, thanks, I know. I have a cron script ready but I can't find the code to enter to add today's date.04:00
addy_bazhang: which links?04:00
bazhang!offline | addy_ these links04:00
ubottuaddy_ these links: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD04:00
shaneohey guys im getting something really wierd when running apt-add repository --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/04:00
gmachine_24it's something like %d.%m.%yr04:00
bazhangshaneo, its add-apt04:01
addy_bazhang: there is a page open want to which packege u wanna to down load04:01
bazhang!appppa | shaneo04:01
bazhang!addppa | shaneo04:01
ubottushaneo: Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details04:01
addy_bazhang:i m not familier with it04:01
bazhangaddy_, yes, thats why you need to read the link04:01
addy_bazhang:ok u maen type !offline| in  terminal04:02
sacarlsongmachine_24: myfilename="$(date +%m%d%y).tar.gz"04:02
bazhanghttp://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/    <-------- addy_   in firefox04:02
shaneobazhang, sorry for the typos but they are not the problem please see pastebin04:02
bazhangshaneo, gpgerr?04:03
shaneono04:03
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addy_bazhang: this page shown APT Chooser04:03
addy_bazhang: and ask for Which distribution do you have? What architecture is your distribution compiled for? What package do you need to install? What (meta)package do you already have?04:03
bazhangshaneo, so whats the issue? no longer a ppa there? or what04:03
shaneobazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/04:03
addy_bazhang:which option i select please tell me04:03
gmachine_24sacarlson: that's it, thanks.04:05
bazhangaddy_, version number is 11.10? arch = 32 bit or 64 bit package, means package name(s) metapackage(s) ubuntu-desktop for example04:05
addy_bazhang:it show maverick? i386 and then i select wine a page is open where too much file are there04:06
mangdood__gmachine_24, sorry, I wasn't aware that you had already written a script and was just looking for the command. I didn't know the command either ]:04:07
addy_bazhang:The requested URL /ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_1.0.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb was not found on this server. this message appear04:07
zenithzephyrI can't find gmcs.exe04:08
MestreLionif I install python3.1 pacjage, how shoul I deal with its co-existance with stock Python 2.6 (using Mavverick here)? I mean... default executable, etc?04:08
zenithzephyrcompiling mono04:08
addy_bazhang:The requested URL /ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_1.0.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb was not found on this server. this message appear04:08
zenithzephyrmono die..04:09
addy_bazhang:what should i do04:09
MestreLionwow, wine 1.0 ?04:09
shaneoaddy_, get a newer version of wine besides 1.004:09
shaneoi believe its a stable 3.0 now04:09
MestreLionshaneo: 1.304:10
shaneooh lol sorry04:10
MestreLionactually, 1.3 was just released04:10
MestreLion1.4 i mean04:10
addy_shaneo:actually i m new in linux and wanna to know how to install software offline(download rar file)04:10
MestreLionnow 1.4 is stable, 1.5 is dev, and 1.0 is rather ancient (circa 2008 i guess)04:10
shaneoaddy_, so try the newer version of wine instead of 1.004:11
Chipzzzhttp://www.winehq.org/download04:11
MestreLionaddy_: if you are new to Linux, avoid offline installs at all costs...04:11
MestreLionaddy_: Software Center is your friend04:11
shaneo^^ agreed04:11
shaneoif its there use it04:11
shaneountil you need to compile something04:11
bazhangaddy_, you dont want to make offline installing the main way to go. thats a very bad idea04:11
MestreLionaddy_: Linux is not like Windows... you don't have to hunt down installs on the wild web... there are package managers for you04:12
zenithzephyr:help04:12
bazhangzenithzephyr, with what04:12
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zenithzephyrcompilng mono04:12
gmachine_24mangdood_, no problem. I appreciate the helpful attitude. :)04:12
shaneocan someone please look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/04:12
zenithzephyrI'm cross-compiling mono for ARM04:12
MestreLionaddy_: and I pretty doubt any worthy linux software would be in a .rar file04:12
bazhang!build-essential | zenithzephyr04:12
ubottuzenithzephyr: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)04:12
bazhangzenithzephyr, so whats the exact question04:13
zenithzephyr!build-essential04:13
shaneossl and ca errors when adding ppas ive seen alot of errors but thats never been one of them04:13
bazhangzenithzephyr, you install build-essential04:13
MestreLionif I install python3.1 package, how should I deal with its co-existance with stock Python 2.6 (using Maverick here)? I mean... default executable, etc?04:13
addy_mestrelion:bazhang:ok i try to take software online and 1 more thing please tell me i by fault disabel wireless connection by command tell me how to enabel it04:13
zenithzephyri can't find gmcs.exe file.04:13
bazhang!maverick04:13
ubottuUbuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/101004:13
zenithzephyryes i install it.04:14
shaneoaddy_, ifconfig <interface> up04:14
shaneoaddy_, so if its wifi ifconfig wlan0 up04:14
MestreLionaddy_: depends on how you disabled it... is the wireless connection icon still available in panel? Use it. If not, maybe rebooting will do the trick... unless you un-installed or really remored the panel applet04:14
addy_shaneo: actually it show your wireless connection is disabel by hardware04:15
shaneoaddy_, did you install additional drivers for your wifi04:16
addy_mestrelion:i try too many time reboot it but still disabel i think i make this fault by miss04:16
MestreLionbazhang: well, the question still holds for natty too... can python 2.6 and 3.1 co-exist? do they automatically set update-alternatives?04:16
MestreLionaddy_: if it is disabled by hardware, well.. maybe you should turn it on pushing a button in your notebook :P04:16
scienteswhat package is the gnome system settings04:17
shaneoaddy_, use to have that problem with my hp on ubuntu 10.04 had to reboot into bios and reset all settings to default even though i never messed with the bios before it worked like a charm found the solution on ubuntu forums04:17
addy_mestrelion:shaneo:no but last week it run very fine and after this i try some command for learn linux and after this it disabel i don;'t remember which command i use04:17
MestreLionscientes: you can find any package using "apt-file search <your-executable>"04:17
addy_mestrelion:there is no hardware switch04:18
shaneoaddy_, lol open a terminal and scroll up until you recognize the command04:18
bazhangaddy_, what did you do to change it?04:18
shaneothan paste it here04:18
MestreLionscientes: so get the executable of gnome-system-settings , and use that command... you may have to install apt-file, but it's worth t04:18
Chipzzzscientes: gnome-control-center04:18
addy_shaneo: u may be right i try to reset bios setting04:18
scientesMestreLion, i actually use dpkg -S04:18
MestreLionscientes: it works too, but only for installed packages i think04:19
shaneoaddy_, ok let me know04:19
addy_bazhang"shaneo"; i don't remember command i just guess it may be disabel by command i m not sure04:19
AcidRainhow do i find the path of my php? its not in /usr/bin/php504:19
scientesMestreLion, yes only installed packages, but it doesn't need yet another space-inducing databse like apt-file04:19
bazhangaddy_, disable what?04:19
shaneoaddy_, scrollback in terminal is your freind04:19
AcidRaintrying to run php as cronjob and cant find it :/04:19
shaneohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/04:19
addy_bazhang"shaneo:if their is any command regearding abel it then tell m e04:20
MestreLionscientes: no extra database... all apt commands uses the same database as dpkg04:20
noneio_where do i place .vim plugin files?04:20
sacarlsonaddy_: rfkill ?   http://www.digimantra.com/linux/rfkill-enabledisable-wireless-linux-laptop/04:20
MestreLionscientes: the difference is that some apt commands look in the repos too04:20
bazhangaddy_, you need to tell us what you disabled, and what command you used04:20
AcidRainanyone?04:21
shaneoAcidRain, whereis php in terminal04:21
shaneoor find php04:21
ChipzzzAcidRain: try "which php"04:21
MestreLioncan python 2.6 and 3.1 co-exist if installed from repos? do they automatically set update-alternatives? how should i deal with them?04:21
addy_shaneo :bazhang: last week i try to learn linux and try some too many command from different online book then later i found my wireless is disabel i dont't remember commad their 1000 of commmand i used later for leanr linux04:22
MestreLionChipzzz: avoid which... type is much better, and it's a builtin04:22
bazhangaddy_, which tutorials, please give us a link04:22
shaneoaddy_, you should be learning on a vm not your main pc04:22
addy_sacarlson:"rfkill what happen by this command04:22
mangdood__MestreLion, I have python 2.6 and 3.104:22
ChipzzzMestreLion: thanks for that :)04:22
mangdood__MestreLion, without any problems, I think04:23
MestreLionChipzzz: type also deals with functions, alias, path , etc... waaaay better :D04:23
shaneohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/04:23
mintmanaddy_: use command line fu for most commands to learn or just use and watch what happens...04:23
addy_shaneo: actuall i only install ubuntu 11 it i install window then might be i m not abel to learn linux any more04:23
MestreLionmangdood__: so, how do you set the "default" python?04:23
AcidRaini still cant find where php is :/04:23
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bazhangaddy_, if you are just making random commands and changing things from online tutorials, there's no telling what harm you have done to your system, and no way for us to know what you have done04:23
shaneoaddy_, thats what VM's are for you run both04:23
mangdood__MestreLion, I think it asked me when installing04:23
shaneowithout affecting the other04:24
MestreLionmangdood__: humm, nice :D do you know if it uses the update-alternatives system?04:24
addy_shaneo:tell me abt VM where to download04:24
MestreLionaddy_: install VirtualBox04:24
shaneoaddy_, install virtualbox from software center04:24
shaneothan04:24
shaneohttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtual+machines04:24
mangdood__MestreLion, I don't even know what that is :X But you could really just link /usr/bin/python to the binary you want04:25
bazhangshaneo, dont use that here. ever.04:25
mangdood__MestreLion, if that isn't bad administrative practivse04:25
shaneobazhang, sorry04:25
MestreLionaddy_: and avoid running "1000s of commands from random tutorials ad blogs".. it is impossible to help you if something goes wrong04:25
bazhangaddy_, at this point back up what you have and reinstall is the safest course of action.04:26
MestreLionmangdood__: it is :P... actually, that's precisely what whe alternatives system is for... could you please check if your /usr/bin/python is already a symlink, and where it points to?04:26
bazhangah he quit04:26
AcidRainok weird, i do whereis php and it just says php:04:27
AcidRainis there a package that i dont have installed?04:27
MestreLionAcidRain: use type php04:27
mangdood__MestreLion, Mine points to 2.704:27
MestreLionmangdood__: directly?04:27
JelloPopMestreLion: I dont get were any of u are going there online tutiroals .. usaully they explain what is going on ... No for random code this is not helpfull.. I learn form tutorials ... and commandlinefu.com tells u what the code is for...04:28
mangdood__MestreLion, it points to python2.7 in the same folder04:28
AcidRainMestreLion: type php says no bash file found04:28
mangdood__MestreLion, so I didn't set up that symlink XD, that's for sure04:28
Ben64AcidRain: type "php"04:28
heatxsinkhi, i've configured an eth1 with a static ip but upon reboot the interface isn't coming up i have to manually dhclient eth1 which is really weird cause it's a static ip not dhcp!04:29
AcidRainBen64: same output, no bash file found04:29
AcidRaini really think im missing something here04:29
Ben64you're typing that error incorrectly04:29
AcidRainyes i am04:29
Ben64and you don't have php04:29
AcidRainif i dont have php, then how do i have a website with php files?04:29
Ben64bash: php: No such file or directory04:30
Ben64is it like that?04:30
AcidRainBen64: yes sir04:30
StepNjumpI would like to install spark messenger. It comes in tar.gz file... Anybody familiar with it?04:30
Ben64that is much different from "no bash file found"04:30
mangdood__AcidRain, your website can have php, it just won't RUN php04:30
AcidRainmangdood__: my website runs php fine04:30
AcidRainyet php seems to not be installed?...04:30
MestreLionJelloPop: I have nothing against online tutorials, but: A) most people run the comands blindly without understanding them first, B) some of them may not apply to your system (be outdated, etc), C) I've seen LOTS or poorly written scripts out there04:30
Ben64your website isn't your computer04:30
MestreLionAcidRain: it means you don't have php installed04:30
sacarlsonAcidRain: I see this with php not installed: The program 'php' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:04:31
sacarlsonsudo apt-get install php5-cli04:31
AcidRainMestreLion: ... but i dont understand how i can execute php files04:31
Ben64you can't until you install php04:31
MestreLionmangdood__: python 2.7 did... are you sure you have python 3.1 installed too? how do you use it?04:31
ChipzzzAcidRain: did you install zend framework & zend debugger?04:31
AcidRainBen64: wtdf04:31
AcidRainim telling you it can04:31
AcidRainim doing it right now04:31
mangdood__MestreLion, *quick off-topic* It's clear that we don't have enough education in tech. Otherwise we wouldn't have these makeshift solutions all over the web and IRC04:31
Ben64going to a website != running php04:31
mangdood__MestreLion, I would use python304:32
AcidRainhttp://acidshower.com <-- this site is on my box, also runs php. phpinfo(); tells me alot04:32
AcidRainhttp://acidshower.com/info.php04:32
wyldeAcidRain: errr, you know that's a security risk having phpinfo() open to the net right?04:33
Ben64AcidRain: then you have something broken04:33
gantryIs there anyone here that understands how add-apt-repository works?04:33
ChipzzzAcidRain: your zend framework installed its own php04:33
Ben64!anyone | gantry04:33
ubottugantry: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:33
MestreLionmangdood__: so python3 did not set alternatives... well, but it at least didn't mess with default settings for 2.7, that's a relief... thanks a lot mangdood__04:33
AcidRainwylde: i know. but i had to show you. cause u didnt believe me04:33
AcidRainChipzzz: i believe you are right about that. installing php-cli worked.04:34
MestreLionsure gantry ... ask ahead04:34
wyldeAcidRain: I didn't believe you? That's the first I've said anything...04:34
gantryBen64, what config/data files does add-apt-repository require in order to run correctly?  I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/Nkg18DnE04:34
mangdood__MestreLion, could you link me to something on this alternatives thing? I'm starting to be curious about it04:34
gantryIt says it can't find a template04:34
AcidRainwell when i said "u" i meant #ubuntu supporters to my question04:34
gantryI have no idea what template it is talking about04:34
AcidRainthanks though guys! got it working.04:34
MestreLionmangdood__: man update-alternatives04:34
AcidRain<3 @ ubuntu04:35
Ben64gantry: are you on linux mint04:35
gantryNo, I'm using Ubuntu 11.1004:35
gantrybut for some reason my /etc/lsb-release file was set up to be LinuxMint04:35
gantryso I changed it for Ubuntu04:35
MestreLionmangdood__: it's a very ancient, but still very useful, system for setting alternatives to commands.... so you can configure which command would run if you just simply type python04:35
gantrythat is the only file that I know that it uses04:36
MestreLionmangdood__: it sets a "net" of symlinks and manage them for you...04:36
GhostConnim cannot change the volume in gmusicbrowser ? the icon is missing i have to use system volume04:36
gantryI am trying to install Cinnamon 1.4 which is a Linux Mint project04:36
MestreLionmangdood__: you can choose your default java, web-browser, python, editor, whatever, in this way04:36
Ben64gantry: well why was lsb-release saying mint04:36
gantryI don't know04:37
Ben64i'll go ahead and say that's the problem04:37
gantryben64, what is the problem?04:37
Ben64that it said mint04:37
gantryIf the problem is lsb-release was incorrect, it is now correct04:38
MestreLiongantry: I'm a Mint user too... but apt-add-repository works fine even with lsb-release set to mint04:38
Ben64whatever happened to change that initially probably caused much more problems04:38
gantryso there shouldn't be a problem unless there are other files that need to be corrected04:38
gantrythe question is, what are the other files that add-apt-repository uses?04:38
MestreLiongantry: the problem is not lsb-release... Mint patches apt to cope with that...04:38
Ben64what is the output of "uname -a"04:38
gantryLinux denali 3.0.0-16-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux04:39
gantryI'm not using Mint04:39
gantryI'm using Ubuntu 11.1004:39
MestreLiongantry: and Cinnamon changed your lsb_release? that is very, very odd04:39
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gantryI don't know if it did or not04:39
gantryI don't know how it got like that04:39
gantryit is just something that I noticed04:40
gantrydid you see the error in pastebin?04:40
gantrywhat template is it looking for?04:40
MestreLiongantry: yes...04:40
Ben64its probably due to your lsb-release and what else was changed at the same time04:41
MestreLiongantry: and normally you should have no problems, either with Mint or Ubuntu04:41
gantryand when things aren't normal?04:41
gantrydoes the error mean anything to you?04:42
Ben64you'll need to undo whatever happened to change lsb-release or ... reinstall04:42
gantryreinstall what?04:42
Ben64ubuntu04:42
gantryI have to reinstall the entire OS!04:42
MestreLiongantry: wait... you were *trying* to istall Cinnamon04:42
gantryway too invasive04:42
bazhanggantry, you are using mint?04:42
gantryyes, I'm trying to install cinnamon04:42
gantryI installed Cinnamon 1.2 a while ago04:43
MestreLiongantry: but it didn't succeded... so it's not Cinnamon's fault...04:43
bazhang!info cinnamon04:43
ubottuPackage cinnamon does not exist in oneiric04:43
MestreLionoh04:43
gantrynow when I go to install Cinnamon 1.4, I can't even add the repo04:43
Ben64how did you install 1.204:43
bazhanggantry, which repo is that04:43
NoNMaDDeNhello ubuntu04:43
gantryhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-cinnamon-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html  this is how I installed Cinnamon 1.204:44
gantryI added the repo then installed it04:44
bazhanggantry, so contact the PPA maintainer04:44
gantrynow I'm wanting to install Cinnamon 1.404:44
gantryof the repo?04:44
gantryI can't add any repo anymore04:44
bazhanggantry, yep. PPA are not supported here04:44
gantrynot a Cinnamon repo or anything else04:45
MestreLiongantry: that's 2 different PPAs for cinammon04:45
bazhanggantry, whats the error?04:45
gantrythis is an add-apt-repository error04:45
bazhanggantry, whats the exact error04:45
Ben64bazhang: aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template04:45
gantryhttp://pastebin.com/Nkg18DnE   This is the error that I get04:45
gantrybazhang, that is exactly it04:45
Ben64he also said /etc/lsb-release had info pertaining to linux mint04:45
bazhanggantry, so they dont have your arch?04:45
gantrymy arch?04:46
bazhang32bit/64bit04:46
gantryI don't know what my arch is04:46
gantryyes04:46
gantryLinux denali 3.0.0-16-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux04:46
MestreLiongantry: you installed Cinnamon 1.2 using a non-official PPA...04:46
gantryMestreLion, yes04:46
bazhanggantry, does that ppa offer a 64bit or multiarch version?04:47
gantryso how does that break add-apt-repository?04:47
MestreLiongantry: take a look at the debs you installed , see if they mess with lsb04:47
gantrythe ppa that I already installed Cinnamon 1.2 from?04:47
MestreLionyes04:47
Ben64bazhang: what about his lsb-release having mint stuff in it?04:47
gantryhow do I see the debs that go installed?04:47
MestreLionBen64: I suspect it was the first PPA's fault04:47
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bazhanggantry, from whichever the error is coming from. ppa-purge them and then try again04:47
Ben64MestreLion: really?04:47
MestreLiongantry: apt-get download04:48
MestreLionbazhang: wait04:48
gantryhow do I ppa-purge them?04:48
bazhang!ppa-purge04:48
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html04:48
bazhanggantry, ^04:48
MestreLionbazhang: would be better first if he read the binary package first... we are not sure if the unstiall scripts will leave everything OK04:48
bazhangMestreLion, good point. but we hardly know if he is running mint/ubuntu/whichh cinnamon is causing the issue, cant hurt to ppa-purge and see which one/if either is causing it04:49
gantryThis just purges the ppa from the repo sources?04:49
gantryI'm installing ppa-purge04:49
MestreLiongantry: either check your /var/cache/apt to see if the cinnamon 1.2 deb is there, OR manually download it form PPA website or use apt-get download <package>04:49
MestreLiongantry: just purging the PPA is not enough (but you wlll eventually do that)04:50
gantryyes, I see muffin and cinnamon there04:50
bazhanggantry, the link and bot explanationis quite clear on that account04:50
MestreLiongantry: extract that .deb somewhere in your home folder, and carefully read the ./debian/rules and all other install and removal scripts.. see if any of them messed with your lsb_release info04:52
MestreLiongantry: if they did, try to figure (from the scripts) how to fix that. Maybe the postrm script will already do that properly... maybe not.04:52
gantryok, I did the ppa-purge04:53
MestreLiongantry: after you fix the lsb_release info and whatever else that package did, apt-get purge cinnamon1.2 , and then purge the PPA too04:53
gantryok, so I did the ppa-purge04:53
gantrythat removes the sources from my repo, right?04:53
MestreLiongantry: yes04:54
gantrynow I have to actually remove the packages?04:54
MestreLiongantry: yes, but first, read what i've told you04:54
gantryok, then I probably need to go into Xfce or something to remove cinnamon04:54
gantryI'm using cinnamon now04:54
MestreLiongantry: if the install script from cinnamon1.2 messed wih your system, i would not trust its uninstall script either04:54
gantryhang on, I'll be right back04:55
MestreLioni hope the guy saves chat history, cos I wont repead all that stuff that he seems to have ignored04:55
bazhangMestreLion, this channel is logged04:56
bazhang!1984 | MestreLion04:56
ubottuMestreLion: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/04:56
MestreLionhumm, nice bazhang04:56
MestreLionbazhang: side note: i loved the bot trigger for the logging ;)04:57
chroothi, I want to know is there any tools that can compare two wav files in ubuntu?04:58
Chipzzzchroot: diff?04:59
dj_segfaultchroot: Do you want to see if they're identical?  Then the sum command will work.  If you want to visualize them I would recommend avidemux.04:59
sacarlsonchroot: do you expect them to be exactly the same?  md5sum ?04:59
chrootno, I record two wav files of myself, and I want to know if the two wav files the same,05:00
chrootdj_segfault, avidemux is a tool?05:00
Chipzzzchroot: it's very unlikely that they are identical05:01
bazhang!info avidemux | chroot05:01
ubottuchroot: avidemux (source: avidemux): a free video editor - GTK version. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.5.4-0ubuntu7.1 (oneiric), package size 761 kB, installed size 1992 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc all)05:01
chrootok, i will check that.05:01
thevinciI've tried the 'blur winodws' effect in compiz, to get my title bars opaque, but every time it bogs my system WAY down! Does my laptop just not support it or what?05:01
dj_segfaultAvidemux is an audio tool for recording and playing back sound files, but it can also visualize them.  It can also work like a multitrack recorder so you can lay both wav files against each other and visualize them05:02
bazhangdj_segfault, video editor you mean05:02
chrootdj_segfault,  ok, i will check it.05:02
chrootand my hope is better under command line.05:02
dj_segfaultohm wait, I didn't mean avidemux.  Gimme a sec05:02
bazhangdj_segfault, perhaps you are thinking of audacity05:03
MestreLionthevinci: it is a heavy effect, like many in compiz... that's all05:03
dj_segfaultI meant audacity05:03
thevinciAnother thing, my login screen background is not the same as my desktop back ground, and it annoys me slightly, seeing as the two laptops i've installed precise on for friends do it, i don't think it has anything to do with my install disc...05:03
thevinciok, I didn't think blur windows would be such a heavy effect. thanks MestreLion05:04
dj_segfaultchroot: Check out audacity05:04
sacarlsonchroot: maybe you looking for voice recognition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux05:04
MestreLionthevinci: they indeed do not match... but you can change your background05:05
chrootyeah, voice recognition, I just want to recognise my voice.05:05
thevinciHow do i change that? When I changed my buddies background, the login background changed to that.05:05
MestreLionthevinci: are you using precise too?05:06
thevincithe only way I was able to do it was to replace the default "warty" img with mine titled the same05:06
thevinciyep05:06
sacarlsonchroot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOf1XQyxyHU05:06
MestreLionthevinci: I've read about a new feature in precise... that when you select another user (but before you actually login), the login background is changed to match the user's05:07
thevinciit's just weird to me that mine remains the default purple background login even though i've changed my desktop bg05:07
thevinciyes, that's what I'm trying to acheive. It works perfectly on the two laptops I installed on recently, but never has on mine since i've been on precise05:08
thevincimight just be an anomaly05:08
thevinci*I might05:08
MestreLionthevinci: maybe you installed precise before them, using an older iso05:08
MestreLionthevinci: and somehow played with the settings in a way it disabled that05:09
MestreLionthevinci: have you tried adding another user to see if the background changes?05:09
thevincii haven't tried that05:09
afsalpls help me, where i start editing source code of a project05:09
thevinciand yes, i installed before them, but i used the same ISO for them as mine05:09
MestreLionafsal: where? Usually in an Editor, or IDE05:10
bazhangafsal, editing what05:10
sacarlsonafsal: you want to create a project or join one?  http://github.com05:10
bazhangafsal, what project05:10
bazhangafsal, and how does this relate to ubuntu support05:10
wadkarHi, I have made some changes to /etc/default/grub (disabled the hidden_timeout and set default_timeout to 3 sec), how do I regenerate grub.cfg ? 'sudo grub-mkconfig'?05:11
MestreLionafsal: if all you want is to look at the source code of a given package, try apt-get source <package>05:11
MestreLionwadkar: sudo update-grub05:11
bazhangwadkar, update-grub05:11
MestreLionwadkar: avoid invoking grub-mkconfig directly... let update-grub do that for you05:11
afsali want create a simple dm. where i start editing lxdm source code after downloading and extracting05:11
GhostConnhow would i update to ubuntu 12:04 without having to install from a cd and loosing all my data05:12
GhostConnim currently runnign 11:0405:12
MestreLionafsal: if all you want is to look at the source code of a given package, try apt-get source <package>05:12
GhostConnamd 9950 cpu05:12
amicrawlermy ipod mounts to desktop  but gpodder will not use it right05:12
wadkarMestreLion: bazhang : thanks, let me reboot and see if it works(I really dont like the flash and quit/suppressing of boot sequence, I like to see the scrolling text and catch if something is wrong)05:12
bazhangGhostConn, you first upgrade to 11.10, then continue to 12.0405:13
MestreLionafsal: but you don't know that already, are you sure you're ready to create a new dm ? :P05:13
* wadkar will reboot05:13
Yadira-007any mp3 tag tool that actually work ?05:13
Yadira-007tagtool used too not anymore05:13
zykotick9Yadira-007: have you tried easytag? it gui.05:13
bazhangYadira-007, which have you tried so far, please give us a list so as to avoid repetition05:13
afsalMestreLopn: ok i tried it. i already downloaded05:13
afsalMestreLion: ok i tried it. i already downloaded05:13
MestreLionafsal: good hacking :)05:13
sacarlsonafsal: you could write a bash script to do that05:14
MestreLionsacarlson: a script to download a source package?05:14
GhostConnim sorry I meant Im running 11:10.. is there a terminal command ?05:14
bazhangamicrawler, what about gtkpod05:14
sacarlsonMestreLion: wget to start05:14
GhostConnand will i loose my apps and settings?05:14
MestreLionGhostConn: 12.04 install will not change your home folder05:14
afsalsacarlson: to download sorce code???05:14
bazhangGhostConn, to upgrade to 12.04? its only beta, and support in #ubuntu+105:14
GhostConnok good :)05:14
amicrawlertry it05:15
MestreLionsacarlson: why? there is apt-get source already... and dget..05:15
bazhangamicrawler, try what05:15
GhostConnis it worth the upgrade to beta or should I wait?05:15
Yadira-007tagtool,puddletag,easeytag,musicbrainz05:15
bazhangGhostConn, wait05:15
MestreLionGhostConn: that's your decision05:15
amicrawleri have no idea where to find were the ipod is mounting at in the fstab05:15
sacarlsonMestreLion: afsal's request was to down load and edit, not just install05:16
GhostConnok05:16
Ben64GhostConn: some applications might not exist in 12.04, or they could be different versions or different features. Also, it is "lose" not "loose"05:16
chrootwell, I have checked out the audacity and speech_recognition in linux,05:16
GhostConnyea i think ill wait I have taken allot of time to make my system the way it is now lol..05:16
afsalsacarlson: i already downloaded05:16
triscuitI tried to install 12.04 the other day but it wouldn't work on my laptop :(05:16
Ben64and 12.04 has something like 200MB of updates daily05:17
sacarlsonafsal: now maybe look into man patch05:17
chrootwhat i want is a tool that can do the recognition work for me, and I don't need to program this tool.05:17
MestreLionsacarlson: but he wants to "create a simple dm"... there are prolly hundreds of files in LXDE... I guess you cannot script that05:17
GhostConndose anyone know how to fix a black splash screen? I have plymouth manager installed but it only works when i shutdown05:17
chrootand better in command line.05:17
amicrawlerim at 11.1005:18
sacarlsonMestreLion: you just download the code of interest and run the patch on the code, nothing fancy in a simple dm05:18
MestreLionGhostConn: plymouth has some issues depending on your video driver and/or system... that's why it was disabled by default in 11.04 onwards05:18
GhostConnlol that sux.. and I'm running a ati 4870 both drivers are active05:19
wadkarMestreLion: bazhang : I did a reboot and saw the grub menu which booted to default in 3 sec; however all I could see was a blank reddish screen and no booting sequence messages, how do I disable the quiet/splash mode and see everything right from initrd to upping init.d services?05:19
GhostConni love to customize things lol05:19
MestreLionGhostConn: depending on your video card and driver combination, plymouth sometimes loaded too late to be noticed,05:19
MestreLionGhostConn: sometimes it required special settings in grub.. and sometimes it didn't load at all05:20
bazhang!nox | wadkar05:20
ubottuwadkar: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode05:20
GhostConnmeh ill just give up on it then.. I put to much time into it already honestly hours05:20
GhostConnits just one of those things lol... a blank boot screen .....05:21
MestreLionwadkar: check the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= entry in /etc/default/grub05:21
MestreLionGhostConn: I share your frustration... I'm using Maverick, and I will really miss my plymouth spash when I upgrade to 12.0405:22
MestreLionGhostConn: but, frankly, how many times a day you reboot?05:22
GhostConn# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update05:22
GhostConn# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.05:22
GhostConn# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:05:22
GhostConn#   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'05:22
GhostConnGRUB_DEFAULT=005:22
FloodBot1GhostConn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:22
GhostConnGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=005:22
wadkarbazhang: MestreLion : I do want to boot in X (let ubuntu start gdm and give me the login screen) but before init start gdm, I want to see the output of boot process, will setting 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"' do it?05:23
MestreLionwadkar: no... just remove the "quiet" that is there05:23
bazhangwadkar, switch in and out of x? no05:23
wadkarMestreLion: I removed both quiet and splash from there, but no luck :(05:24
MestreLionwadkar: have you update-grub after that?05:24
MestreLionGhostConn: you back?05:25
wadkarMestreLion: yes, last time when set the timeouts I set 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""' and did update-grub, but as I mentioned, after grub boots the default after 3 sec, I dont see any scrolling text, but a blank reddish(ubuntu'esque) screen and I am presented with the login screen after 5-6 seconds05:26
MestreLionwadkar: pastebin your /etc/default/grub05:27
wadkarMestreLion: the blank screen doesn't have a ubuntu logo and "loading dots"05:27
wadkarMestreLion: http://pastie.org/364596105:27
yumpinyonhey all how can i tell if i have java installed, i did 3rd party on install?05:28
MestreLionan empty GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT should be enough for you to read the booting messages05:28
MestreLionyumpinyon: java --version05:28
bazhangyumpinyon, from where?05:28
yumpinyonUnrecognized option: --version05:29
yumpinyonCould not create the Java virtual machine.05:29
chroothi, is there any voice control software in ubuntu?05:29
MestreLionsorry... java -versions05:30
MestreLionsorry... java -version05:30
MestreLion(those unstandard command-line options... die, Sun :P)05:30
bazhang!info festival05:30
ubottufestival (source: festival): General multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1~release-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 986 kB, installed size 2892 kB05:30
yumpinyonhey thanks05:31
yumpinyonjava version "1.6.0_23"05:31
yumpinyonis that newest?05:31
bazhangyumpinyon, check their homepage05:31
yumpinyonbazhang: ok thanks05:31
MestreLionwadkar: your grub config looks fine.. I have no idea why it isn't showing you text... maybe there's additional steps required in 11.10... but, you can always check your logs (specially demsg) for that05:32
bazhangit's no longer distributed by  ubuntu due to licensing issues05:32
pk__i have a server ..as soon as the power comes it is started automatically but it is stuck at grub screen05:33
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pk__we need to press an enter in order to boot it further05:34
scientesdoes unity require 24 bit color now??05:34
pk__can someone help me to make it boot automatically05:34
pk__we want to use it as router05:34
bazhangscientes, as opposed to what?05:34
scientesi have a 16-bit color depth touchscreen05:34
scientesand "unity 2D panel has closed unexpectedly" ---after a very long delay05:35
sacarlsonpk__: sound like you need to modify the default and timeout in grub05:35
bazhangif it does, then use unity-2d05:35
scientes^^^i am using 2D05:35
wadkarMestreLion: its 11.04 not 11.1005:35
wadkarMestreLion: I would rather hit I to go interactive in the middle rather than let things fall/break and check dmesg/syslog05:35
pk__sacarlson: we have set the timeout to 2 and default is set to what should be booted05:36
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pk__normally it boots properly,, but sometimes it is stuck on a screen which need an enter to be pressed05:36
pk__this server is located very far , we have to manually rush to that place to perform this key pressing05:36
mi3eelloo05:37
MestreLionwadkar: there's no way you can "go interactive", unless you use the single (recovery) mode and start the init scripts yourself05:37
pk__sacarlson: cant we remove this grub thing and then boot ubuntu directly05:38
totesmuhgoatspk__: no, grub is the thing that boots ubuntu05:38
bazhangpk__, thats the bootloader05:38
paulus68pk__: you are not able to connect to this server remotely? then I should place this router closer to your location if possible ofcourse05:39
sacarlsonpk__: I was looking for the gui I use to modify my grub setting but haven't found the one I normaly use yet but see this one http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-change-grub-settings-with-guitools.html05:40
wadkarMestreLion: hmm, okay, but still, I would rather see the scrolling text rather than checking the syslog/dmesg everytime (plus its colorful during boot, which immediately brings RED colored stuff in focus)05:40
pk__this normally happens when the server shuts down abruptly due to power failure..normally it would boot properly05:40
sacarlsonpk__: this is what I was looking for https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer05:41
MestreLionwadkar: I agree... but again, your grub is already set correctly, maybe there are additional steps needed for natty05:42
pk__piyush_ranjan: hello :)05:43
sacarlsonpk__: oh if it boots normal with a normal shutdown then maybe it's a bios setting, or sometimes with flash shutdown the system will get into an unknown state, not fully reset but corrupted mem state05:43
wadkarMestreLion: hmm, are there any LINUX_CMDLINE options like 'noquiet' and 'nosplash'?05:43
MestreLionwadkar: you could also disable/remove plymouth... worth trying05:43
GhostConnon average 4-5 but it not because i boot my computer a million times a day to see a splashscreen lmao.. it just bugs me and im into customization and eye candy HARDCORE lol05:43
bazhangMestreLion, you dont want to remove plymouth05:43
wadkarMestreLion: what is the equivalent of 'chkconfig disable plymouth'?05:43
MestreLionwadkar: not that I know of... these are the default already...05:43
wadkarbazhang: why? what is plymouth?05:44
djl75plymouth is good05:44
pk__sacarlson: when we go to that place there is just a black screen waiting for us..we just press enter and booting proceeds further05:44
MestreLionwadkar: the splash manager05:44
MestreLionbazhang: isnt plymouth optional?05:44
sacarlsonpk__: not sure then,  and it sounds like it's intermitent05:45
collinjsimpsonDoes anyone know how to set up some kind of disk quota for shared directories? (bindfs)05:45
sacarlsonpk__: might be more stable with battery backup on it, even if battery goes to dead it will provide a timely restart05:46
JZApplesHi!  I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on how to remotely access my computer with the desktop environment from another Ubuntu , Windows Vista, and Windows 7 machines and an HP Touchpad.  I don't need to open it up to the Internet so I can access it anywhere, just from my LAN.05:46
bazhangMestreLion, you can remove the visible part, ie with the nosplash, but removing plymouth itself will make the system unable to boot05:47
sacarlsonJZApples: there must be vnc that will work between most of those platform05:48
JZApplesWith VNC do I have to open it up to the internet though?05:48
MestreLionwadkar: bazhang is far more experienced than me... trust his advise then.. do not remove plymouth itself, just set nosplash and see if it works05:49
sacarlsonJZApples: no internet can be excluded and is by default I would think05:49
diverdudeHow do i get php5.4. to run on ubuntu?05:50
JZApplessacarlson, Would I still need to open up port 5900 on my router if I only want to allow it on my network?05:50
collinjsimpsonAnyone know how to set up quotas for shared folders?05:51
bazhangcollinjsimpson, quotas of what exactly05:51
collinjsimpsonbazhang:  disk quotas05:51
sacarlsonJZApples: no if it's local you don't need that setting05:53
JZApplessacarlson, thanks, I'll try it again and see what happens.05:53
collinjsimpsonIf possible, I'd like to know how to mount the shared directories with fixed sizes.05:53
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goddardwhat is the pkg-config for glut?05:55
goddardglut returns nothing05:55
bazhanggoddard, you mean freeglut3?05:56
goddardya05:56
diverdudeis it safe to do: curl http://apt.damz.org/key.gpg | sudo apt-key add - ?05:56
bazhang!info freeglut305:56
ubottufreeglut3 (source: freeglut): OpenGL Utility Toolkit. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.0-1ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 75 kB, installed size 308 kB05:56
nibbler_diverdude, for sure not withuot https....05:58
goddardbazhang: yeah not enough info05:58
goddardbazhang: really need a cmake module for it05:58
collinjsimpsonIs there any way I can prevent users from writing to shared folders to avoid exceeding disk quotas?05:59
nibbler_collinjsimpson, there is quota support, or you can just revoke the write permissions05:59
diverdudenibbler_: ok...i tried to do it in my virtualbox...so its ok.... i got it from this page: http://apt.damz.org/  then it also tells me to do deb http://apt.damz.org/ubuntu natty php54 but i get an error when typing that command. i dont have deb. why is that?06:00
sacarlsoncollinjsimpson: this is all I found so far http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/quota_tutorial.html06:01
collinjsimpsonnibbler_:  I'm using bindfs to create shared folders, and users are able to use up all of the disk space. I want users to be able to write files.06:01
scienteshow do i launch unity 2d from the command line?06:03
MestreLionscientes: I'm not sure you can... you need to log-out and choose Unity 2D from the login screen06:04
scientesMestreLion, I'm trying to debug a crash when i log in06:04
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scientesunity 2d doesn't want to launch06:05
MestreLionscientes: being in the command line assumes a terminal which assumes you're already logged in06:05
scientesso i'm trying to tuse strace06:05
scientesMestreLion, no, its ssh, and i have DISPLAY set properly06:05
MestreLionscientes: wow, can you ssh an entire desktop session?06:06
scientesMestreLion, well, i am targeting the host Xorg, but yeah, you can if you want06:06
MestreLion(not using vnc or rdp , of course)06:06
scientesi'm targeting the host Xorg cause i am trying to debug this one06:06
scientesMestreLion, of course, with Xephyr06:06
MestreLionscientes: well, I assume you already looked at the logs and didn't find anything useful06:07
scientesMestreLion, its not an Xorg problem06:07
scientesits unity-2d06:07
scienteswhich as i understand it is a modified metacity, which BTW is working06:07
collinjsimpsonnibbler_:  Thanks for the link. I'm using bindfs, so that sounds like it be possible to create a filesystem, set the appropriate permissions, and go.06:07
MestreLionshould dump log messages anyway06:07
nooshHello. I am trying to tether via USB, my Android phone for networking, any idea where in the kernel I need to look for the driver?06:10
wadkarMestreLion: bazhang : putting CMDLINE option = 'nosplash' lets see if it works06:10
* wadkar reboots06:10
Ben64noosh: tethering my phone "just works" maybe you're not doing it correctly?06:15
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jalcine1,500 people in one channel?06:16
jalcineDEATH.06:16
himanshuhello06:20
nooshBen64: It worked initially when i used the gentoo install CD, net-setup usb0, but afterwards not. I linked net.lo to net.usb006:20
Ben64this is an ubuntu support channel, not for gentoo06:21
no-name-for some reason when I installed 10.04 x64 the installer decided to give me an 18.9 GB swap partition. If I want it to be smaller, is it only a matter of changing its size or do I have to change some settings to tell the OS of its new size too?06:21
nooshOh sorry, wrong room06:21
nooshmy bad.06:21
Ben64no-name-: just need to change size06:22
soreauno-name-: you should be able to just resize it as long as the node name doesn't change06:22
no-name-ok, cool06:22
wadkarMestreLion: bazhang : nosplash didnt work, this sucks :( will upgrading to 11.10 solve this? or is 12.04 on the way?06:23
no-name-soreau, is a node name e.g. sda1 ?06:23
soreauno-name-: right06:23
no-name-ok06:23
soreauno-name-: you might double check /etc/fstab against the blkid command too06:24
soreau! uuid06:24
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)06:24
MestreLionno-name-: how much RAM do you have for the installer to create such a huge swap?06:24
Ben64he's gone06:24
no-name-sorry, back06:24
Ben64oh wait06:24
Ben64un-gone06:24
no-name-MestreLion: 8 gb06:24
soreauno-name-: you might double check /etc/fstab against the blkid command too ^^06:24
triscuitWow, how did it take me this long to find out gnome-open , opens pretty much everything from terminal? I've been using evince, eog, gedit06:24
MestreLion19GB swap for 8GB RAM looks really weird06:24
Ben64with 8GB of ram, you don't *need* swap at all, if something happens during resize and it can't find it, everything will still work fine06:25
MestreLiontriscuit: use xdg-open instead06:25
jalcineThat's huge.06:25
no-name-MestreLion: yeah. whenever I look at its usage it's either at 0 or 40kb06:25
triscuithow's it different MestreLion?06:25
MestreLiontriscuit: gnome-open is deprecated...06:26
MestreLiontriscuit: the correct one is gfvs-open , but xdg-open takes care of this, regardless if you're using Gnome, KDE, LXDE...06:26
MestreLiontriscuit: it's much more universal06:26
pnormanMy swap is 48GB and I've used >40 GB before06:26
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MestreLionyou guys gotta be kidding me06:27
triscuitok thanks MestreLion, I was also not liking how localized it seemed anyway06:27
no-name-...06:27
MestreLionno-name-: you need swap for hibernation06:27
no-name-oh, right06:28
no-name-I don't use that06:28
MestreLionno-name-: but it can be as little as your RAM... set it to 8~10GB and you'll be fine06:28
Ben64i have 8GB ram, 2GB swap06:28
MestreLionBen64: can you hibernate?06:28
Ben64computer stays on all the time06:28
MestreLioncould you hibernate?06:29
Ben64probably not06:29
Ben64never understood the appeal06:29
MestreLionBen64: being able to shut down without losing the session06:29
subdesignmorning06:30
no-name-oh, so the machine is off but the session is stored in the swap space?06:30
MestreLionBen64: great when you have dozens of windows and files and apps .. and you're about to go out for the weekend06:30
no-name-I'm not much a multi-tasker myself06:30
subdesignI try to lower the 11.10 launcher icon size, but no changes. any idea why?06:31
subdesignI had a compiz crach earlier thats true06:31
subdesign*crash06:31
Ben64computer stays on all weekend06:31
Ben64: /06:31
MestreLionno-name-: correct. Hibernation saves all your RAM to hdd... and shuts down. and you can even unplug from power cord06:31
MestreLionno-name-: when you turn it back on, it is loaded as you've never had shut down at all06:32
Ben64 23:32:14 up 14 days,  1:53,  9 users,  load average: 1.81, 1.76, 1.7806:32
MestreLionno-name-: not all drivers/hardware deal with that  correctly.. but when they do, it is absolutely sweet :D06:33
no-name-yeah, if you regularly have a lot of stuff open at once06:33
no-name-I usually just have 2 - 5 :)06:33
MestreLionno-name-: and this is not only an Ubuntu feature... windows has hibernation since XP too... it's more like a concept06:34
diverdudeif i have version 1.0 of a program installed which is newest version in official repo, and i add a PPA, and du apt-get upgrade...will the packet manage then automatically update to the version from the PPA?06:34
no-name-yeah06:34
diverdudeno-name-: me?06:34
MestreLionno-name-: if you don't care about hibernation at all, simply sudo swapoff, delete the swap partition and adjust /etc/fsbat accordinly... not sure if any additional steps required06:34
no-name-diverdude: sorry, was talking to MestreLion06:35
MestreLiondiverdude: yes it will06:35
Ben64diverdude: usually it works like that06:35
MestreLiondiverdude: you have have to apt-get update first, so it scans the newly-added PPA06:35
MestreLionmay have*06:35
no-name-MestreLion: do I only need to use the swapoff command once?06:36
MestreLionno-name-: /etc/fstab , sorry for the typo06:36
saju_maGetting error (Directory not empty) when copying file using 'cp' command to shared location (NFS) and trying to remove directory after killing copy process06:37
saju_mahttp://dpaste.com/719952/06:37
diverdudeMestreLion: ok...when i do that it says: The following packages have been kept back:06:37
diverdude  libapache2-mod-php5 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-mysql06:37
MestreLionno-name-: no, that alone will only disable swap until you reboot06:37
diverdudeMestreLion: but those were the pack it was supposed to upgrade06:37
diverdudepacks06:37
MestreLiondiverdude: it means you have more upgradable packages06:37
diverdudeMestreLion: what does that mean?06:38
Ben64diverdude: you're trying to add a ppa to update the kernel? why?06:38
diverdudeMestreLion: why dont it upgrade it then06:38
diverdudeBen64: no im trying to update php to 5.406:38
MestreLiondiverdude: upgrading is not automatic... you must tell apt WHAT you want to upgrade06:38
MestreLiondiverdude: OR use the update manager06:38
Ben64diverdude: then why is the kernel in there06:38
diverdudeBen64: no idea06:38
no-name-does swap space save you from crashes if you're using too much of your RAM?06:38
diverdudeBen64: it was already there i think06:39
Ben64diverdude: which ppa are you using06:39
MestreLionBen64: maybe a kernel upgrade from regular repos... update-manager only starts once a day (or week)06:39
diverdudeBen64: im using this: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php506:39
Ben64diverdude: open up synaptic and mark all the upgrades06:40
MestreLionno-name-: it can help, yes... because you would have more RAM available06:40
diverdudeBen64: cant i just upgrade everything with a command?06:40
MestreLionBen64: using update manager is better...06:40
MestreLiondiverdude: you can... update manager is your friend :P06:40
Ben64update manager isn't a command06:40
MestreLionBen64: no, it's an app06:41
Ben64he asked for command06:41
Ben64diverdude: you'd probably have to specify what to upgrade, because something in those upgrades requires the removal of something else most likely06:41
MestreLioni'm not aware of any command that can "upgrade all upgradable packages"06:42
MestreLionno-name-: if you're going to delete your swap, there are indeed additional steps06:42
diverdudeBen64: ok...now i opened the update manager. I think it will work fine06:42
no-name-MestreLion: alright. do you know of any reliable guides that I can read?06:43
MestreLiondiverdude: you can use apt-get upgrade <package> , but you cant use apt-get upgrade *06:43
diverdudeMestreLion: ok...thats a bit weird06:43
Ben64"apt-get upgrade" with no arguments upgrades all packages06:43
Ben64except for ones that require other things to be removed06:43
MestreLionBen64: humm, nice...06:44
MestreLionso, there you go diverdude ... apt-get upgrade06:44
diverdudeMestreLion: if i want to downgrade again how do i do that?06:44
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MestreLionno-name-: i'm sure you would need to update both /etc/fstab (deleting the swap line), and also /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume (deleting the RESUME=UUID=<uuid> line), and also run sudo update-initramfs06:45
MestreLiondiverdude: you can force a version using apt-get install06:46
no-name-MestreLion: alright. I'll look around on the web and see what I can find.06:46
MestreLiondiverdude: or you can use Synaptics for that06:46
MestreLionno-name-: but my suggestion is... do like Ben64 did... he has 8GB RAM and only 2GB swap06:46
no-name-yeah06:46
no-name-I think I will do that06:47
MestreLionno-name-: you would save more than 15 GB of hdd06:47
no-name-is it then merely a matter of resizing it?06:47
no-name-yeah06:47
MestreLionand still keep a minimum swap space06:47
MestreLionno-name-: yes, it is... but gparted does not resize swap partitions,06:47
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no-name-oh06:48
MestreLionno-name-: so you either use another tool, OR delete it and re-create it and then change the UUID in fstab and resume files accordinly06:48
no-name-ok06:49
MestreLionno-name-: so the workflow would be:06:49
MestreLionno-name-: 1 - use gparted to swapoff, delete and create again a swap partition.06:49
MestreLionno-name-: 2 - take note of the new uuid of that partition (use either gparted or mkswap)06:50
makarai transfered a domain from someone into my account, but I left some email files on their host and I need to ftp them over. of course I can't use the dns to login because that points to my own host. Is there some way to find the ip address of the host on my computer? is there a log file that would have that information? Firefox history doesn't keep ip addresses06:50
labkom6hello06:50
MestreLionno-name-: change /etc/fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume accordinly06:50
labkom6heeeiii --"06:51
no-name-MestreLion: thanks =]06:51
MestreLionno-name-: and sudo update-initramfs -u to apply changes06:51
labkom6damn !06:51
phong_h06:53
phong_hi all06:53
MestreLionBen64: i'm curious.. do you have any RESUME-UUID= in your /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume ?06:54
Ben64MestreLion: RESUME=UUID=0c1ad202-ef41-4c32-a4c8-5c149e0b20c006:55
MestreLionI wonder how ubuntu deals with that since your swap is smaller than your RAM06:55
MestreLionis it smart enough to detect that and disable hibernate?06:55
Ben64hibernate is an option on the shutdown menu thing06:56
Ben64but i've never tried it06:56
MestreLioni wonder what would happen06:56
MestreLionand also how to "properly" disable hibernate06:56
Ben64well i only have 1802MB used right now, so it could work maybe06:57
drounsehas anyone had luck installing or booting linux or bsd on a gateway matxhrn e4100 everyone seems to have trouble with it07:00
MestreLionBen64: does not work like that... RAM usage is fragmented, it need to dump all of it to be safe07:01
SyriaHello, I have just upgraded to 11.10 but I am missing many things!! like the system menu which contains administration and preferences and the dock thing!07:02
MestreLionSyria: welcome to Gnome 3 :D07:02
SyriaMestreLion:  :( what should I do07:03
MestreLionSyria: learn to love the they Unity UI07:03
aatishcan any one tel me the latest version of ubuntu07:03
aatishhow is that07:03
MestreLionaatish: 11.1007:03
Error404NotFoundI want to use duplicity+python-boto to do backups on my account but i only have access for FTP and crons. Would it work if i build these packages and their dependencies in my homedir on laptop and then copy it there while considering that the cpu arch of both,my laptop and that ftp server, is same?07:03
aatishyes mestrelina: i m using 1007:04
MestreLionaatish: and 12.04 is about to be released in a month07:04
aatisho GOOOOD07:04
aatishcoooooooooool07:04
MestreLionaatish: 10.?07:04
aatish10.04 netty07:04
aatisho sorry tht is 11.04 netty07:04
MestreLion10.04 is Lucid07:04
MestreLionNatty you mean07:05
aatishyes MestrLine07:05
MestreLionMestreLion.. use TAB to autocomplete :P07:05
aatishMestreLion: tx i m newbiw here in IRC07:05
MestreLionaatish: no problem, you're welcome07:06
aatishMestreLion: can you tell me how can i run deramviwer in ubuntu07:06
ga_sk8eri have a question about installing ubuntu with windows on dual boot. the other day in another lounge some ppl told me it would cause issues with windows. is that true?07:06
ga_sk8erthat day i was having a boot problem about ntldr & they told me that dualboot would cause that issue to happen later on07:07
MestreLionSyria: I was a bit sarcastic, and I'm sorry... but the thing is: the interface was revamped, many options have changed, it's a whole new desktop... there are tons of options and things to discover about it... try to learn the new features07:07
MestreLionaatish: you mean dreamweaver ?07:07
ohsI have an ubuntu runnuning on VMware. when I insert a SD card on my pc, ubuntu can not see the SD card how can I make ubuntu see the SD card?07:08
SyriaMestreLion: Thank you very much dude.07:08
ga_sk8erohs did u mount it like a thumb drive?07:08
ohsga_sk8er:no,I dont know how to do it, can you tell me how can I do it?07:09
MestreLionohs: what is the host os ?07:09
aatishMestreLion: yes07:09
ohswindows 707:09
MestreLionohs: does VMWare exposes SD cards to its vms automatically?07:10
drounsewould openbios allow me to boot any linux or bsd os?07:10
ga_sk8erits been so long since ive been in linux i forget the commands to mount07:10
MestreLionaatish: you should really be more careful with your typing aatish .. we won't be able to read your mind everytime07:10
ga_sk8eri found a page about doing it though07:10
aatishsacarlson: hi07:10
ga_sk8erhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB07:10
ohsMestreLion: no, it doesnt expose the SD card07:10
ndezithhi all somebody success install asterisk on ubuntu?07:10
aatishMestreLion: very sorry07:11
MestreLionohs: so this is a windows vmware issue07:11
ga_sk8erdoes anyone have ubuntu on a hard drive along with windows...dual boot?07:12
g[r]eekHi fellas. I'd like to enable / install libxml for PHP. How do I do this / what package must I install? Thanks07:12
MestreLionga_sk8er: i bet many do, me included.07:12
ohsMestreLion: I can see access the SD driver but it does not expose automatically. do you have any idea what I can do?07:12
aatishMestreLion: i tried all the online informations regarding WINE but i can't install that in ubuntu 11 Netty07:13
ga_sk8eri was in a chat the other day & talking tech/ computer stuff....i mentioned i was gonna do dualboot & someone in there said doing that would cause issues to haapen in my windows. idk if its true. i want to find out before i try doing dual boot07:13
MestreLionaatish: installing wine is really easy and straighforward... it's in the Software Center07:13
TylerWga_sk8er: not if you do it right07:14
MestreLionohs: ask vmware support in #windows07:14
wyldega_sk8er: I use dual boot for years until this past year I went completely to Linux.07:14
wyldeused*07:14
ga_sk8eri know ive had other versions of linux on dual boot & it didnt cause issues. idk if there was something different about ubuntu07:14
TylerWnope07:14
ndezithga_sk8er: why you need dual boot?07:14
TylerWI've run dual-boot for a long time in the past... never had any issues07:15
ga_sk8erthen im gonna dual boot :)07:15
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ohsMestreLion: I can also see on VMware that under the removable device section, I can see "micro usb composite device"07:15
TylerWIn fact, if you're dual-booting with Windows using the Ubuntu windows installer makes it the easiest possible setup imagineable for dual-booting07:15
ohsMestreLion: so can I mount or do something on ubuntu?07:15
MestreLionaatish: does it HAVE to be dreamweaver? there are many great native web editors, like Aptana07:15
g[r]eekHi fellas. I'd like to enable / install libxml for PHP. How do I do this / what package must I install? Thanks07:15
TylerWhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer07:15
ga_sk8erohs...the vmware is basically running windows....i wonder if it has the correct driver for the card reader07:16
MestreLionohs: VMware exposes the SD card to Ubuntu, it should automatically auto-mount07:16
aatishMestreLion: i m php developer so can you tell me best IDE07:16
TylerWNetBeans for PHP07:16
aatishMestreLion: i'll try Aptana07:16
wyldeg[r]eek: http://php.net/manual/en/book.libxml.php07:16
TylerWick I don't like Aptana, netbeans lal the way07:16
TylerWwylde: I think he means the apt package to enable it07:17
TylerWits not in PHP by default07:17
MestreLionaatish: as TylerW said,  netbeans is also a great option...07:17
aatishTylerW: can netbean is for JAVA07:18
wyldeThe libxml extension is enabled by default, although it may be disabled with --disable-libxml .07:18
TylerWhttp://netbeans.org/features/php/07:18
MestreLionaatish: netbeans is a multi-language IDE, not just for java07:18
ohsga_sk8er, MestreLion: maybe I misunderstand the "expose". windows sees the sd card, I can see what is inside the SD card on windows side. I can also see on VMware's removable devices as "microusb composite device". in that case, can I use see the SD card on ubuntu somehow?07:18
TylerWg[r]eek: have you tried the XML-RPC and had it fail?07:19
aatishTylerW: tx07:19
aatishMestreLion: I'll try to get information with that07:19
TylerWg[r]eek: Found it; apt-get install php5-xmlrpc07:20
MestreLionohs: "expose" means = make the SD card from the host OS (windows) available to its virtual machines (guest OS, Ubuntu)07:20
g[r]eekTylerW, yeah I tried the xmlrpc_encode_request function and that failed.07:20
g[r]eekOk thanks I'll give that a bash07:20
ga_sk8erohs. yeah u should be able to use the sd card on ubuntu07:20
TylerWalso helpful: apt-cache search php5- shows all the modules for PHP you can install that may not have been installed by default07:20
g[r]eekTylerW, for some reason I read in the docs that I needed libxml and not xmlrpc07:20
g[r]eekTylerW, woah that's a great tip thanks07:21
TylerWyeah... what I find weird is that libxml should be installed by default... especially seeing as though you chose the automated LAMP install07:21
niloyhi07:21
TylerWyou probably need both...07:21
aatishTylerW: i need wysiwyg function IN IDE coz few work we want to make with that and i think in netbeans i cant use wysiwyg function07:21
MestreLionohs: from the Ubuntu point of view, as long as VMWare does this correctly, it should auto-mount that SD card perfectly, no additional steps required. But you should get suport about VMWare07:21
ohsMestreLion: thank you very much07:21
ohsI will search on google about it07:22
TylerWMestreLion: I missed part of the conversation? But could it be that he has to select to attach the device to the Ubuntu installed in VMware, or has that already been established07:22
MestreLionohs: from the Ubuntu point of view, as long as VMWare does this correctly, *Ubuntu* should auto-mount that SD card perfectly, no additional steps required. So you should check VMWare config.. ask for support in #vmware07:22
MestreLionTylerW: sure, but that is a VMWare issue, not Ubuntu's07:22
ohsI already asked on #vmware but they are all sleeping I guess:) but thank you very much, you were very helpful07:22
g[r]eekTylerW, I'm going to stick around in the other channel as it's a bit noisy in here07:23
TylerWjust curious...07:23
MestreLionTylerW: i've never used VMWare, only Virtualbox... in VB, you can set it up to auto-expose USB devices07:23
ga_sk8erohs....ever hear of TWiT? someone there might be able to answer you07:23
aatishTylerW: in VMWare there is direct option to access USB07:24
TylerWmestrelion: Yes, I've used both. Unfortunately, you have to go to "Virtual Machine" and thne tell it to attach the device... I PMed him though that info07:24
TylerWaatish: you must have to set that somewhere though07:25
ga_sk8erohs http://twit.tv/ scroll down & they have their own irc chat. they do nothing but technology stuff07:25
MestreLionTylerW: but you have to attach each time you plug or unplug a new thumb drive?07:25
TylerWMestreLion: if its new yeah... I've found it remembers the drives I told it to attach and will automatically attach those when I plug them in07:25
MestreLionTylerW: ewwww... Virtualbox FTW ;)07:26
TylerWMestreLion: BUT it usually pops up and says "a new device can be used with your Virtual Machine" and I believe (theres got to be) an auto attach setting somewhere07:26
MestreLionstill, vb ftw :P07:26
TylerWYes, VirtualBox ftw indeed... I use both for various uses... mainly vmware for my Mac system I need for testing, VB for everything else07:26
Ben64virtualbox is very difficult to use from commandline07:27
MestreLionBen64: command-what? GUI ftw :P07:28
Ben64what about on servers07:28
niloyis there a way in grep to see text above and below the matching line?07:28
MestreLionoops :P07:28
MestreLionBen64: bash scripting ftw :P07:28
Ben64what does that have to do with virtualbox07:28
MestreLionniloy: grep -A , -B or -C07:29
MestreLionniloy: use man grep to read more about it07:29
MestreLionBen64: scritping commonly used vb actions07:30
MestreLionBen64: for example, I did some scripts to "trim" the virtual hdds to their actual used space + 10%, since that, as you said and I admit, is a pain to do in command line07:31
MestreLionBen64: and it *requires* command line07:32
ohswhat command do I need to type to see what version of ubuntu that I am using?07:32
MestreLioncan someone please ban ETERNAL_TRAVIS for flooding PM with bra ads?07:32
Ben64i mean the whole thing07:33
MestreLionohs: lsb_release -a07:33
Ben64try setting up a system with virtualbox with no gui from scratch07:33
ohsthank you07:33
Ben64takes ages07:33
cjeyI wrote a package A which uses a virtual package. the virtual package has 2 concrete packages  B or C, while install A, the system always select B, and do not provide a choice between B or C. How can I add a selection menu into the deb package?07:33
MestreLionoh... never tried that Ben64 ... actually, one of the things i love about vb is that is one of the very few apps in Linux with a consistent, solid and powerful GUI07:34
Ben64which doesn't matter if you can't see it :|07:34
Ben64http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html07:35
MestreLionsure07:35
Ben64and that page is still missing a ton of info07:35
MestreLioncjey: why should the user choose? if B and C are actually equivalent regarding A, let the system picks07:36
cjeyactually the 2 packages are of -dev and -rel, I would like to let the installing user to pick07:36
TylerWLooks like ohs problem is Ubuntu afterall and not vmware07:36
cjeythe -dev package provides debugging/testing facilities07:37
MestreLioncjey: it is not package A's role to trigger07:37
n4dspis there a way to repartition my hard drive without disturbing the programs? Have 95% of memory in /home and only 10% in /07:38
MestreLioncjey: and the -rel package provides... ?07:39
MestreLionn4dsp: boot using LiveCD and use gparted to reside partitions07:39
MestreLionresize*07:39
n4dspwhere can I get a LiveCD MestreLion?07:40
cjeyMestreLion, the -dev provides what the -rel provides plus testing tools07:40
TylerWhttp://gparted.sourceforge.net/07:40
MestreLionn4dsp: use the same you used for installing Ubuntu07:40
TylerWhttp://www.ultimatebootcd.com/07:40
vltn4dsp: I can recommend grml.org.07:41
n4dsphmm, ok, my memory fails me. Thanks.07:41
n4dspok vit07:41
TylerWn4dsp: are you comfortable with command line?07:41
TylerWcan save some time07:41
MestreLionTylerW: no need, he already installed Ubuntu using a LiveCD ;)07:41
n4dspnot really TylerW07:41
TylerWok, then go with a Live disk like MestreLion suggested!07:41
MestreLionguys... why make it harder... Ubuntu's install CD is a Live CD and it has gparted... can't be easier than that07:42
niloyMestreLion, thanks07:42
TylerWbecause you always learn more the hard way! :-D07:42
n4dspbut not sure what I used to install07:42
TylerWhttp://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions <-- my preferred method, but I usually tend to work with Ubuntu Server that doesn't have xwindows/gui/gnome installed07:42
n4dspthanks for the info07:42
MestreLionn4dsp: if you don't have the CD anymore, download and burn one ;)07:42
n4dspok, thanks07:43
MestreLionn4dsp: then give the CD to a friend ;)07:43
n4dsp:>)07:43
MestreLionTylerW: he would have to boot with a live CD anyway... can't resize while / and /home are mounted07:43
vlt!ops07:44
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MestreLionvlt: he did that to you too?07:44
TylerWnot if you're using LVM, you can resize mounted partitions07:45
MestreLionhummm, true... LVM heaven... one day i'll dive into that07:46
pirx_the Precise nightly builds. if i install those, then07:46
pirx_can i upgrade to the real release once its released?07:46
pirx_i guess i can, right?07:46
MestreLionpirx_: just do regular updates from update manager07:46
MestreLionpirx_: but I suggest using the Beta CD instead07:47
lizzini am attempting to use usb-creator-gtk to make a bootable usb. but it keeps failing with07:48
lizzin"there is not enough free space for this image"07:48
lizzinthe usb stick is 8gb. why is this happening?07:48
MestreLionTylerW: can ubiqyity handle lvm already?07:48
pirx_MestreLion: ah, there is such a thing?07:48
pirx_goodie07:48
MestreLionpirx_: yes, Beta 1 was released already.. maybe even Beta 2... for more info about Precise, use #ubuntu+107:49
leo_hi people07:49
MestreLionlizzin: is the usb full?07:49
lizzinMestreLion: i don't believe so. i just use disk utiltity in osx to reformat it07:50
MestreLionlizzin: what filesystem did it create?07:50
lizzinmagentar: fat 3207:51
rhin0how do I get rid of little "helpful" black dialogues whne you mouse over certain things like "click to open new tab"07:51
MestreLionlizzin: using MSDOS "traditional" partition table?07:52
rhin0how do I turn them off lik e"click to view your appointnments ant tasks" on the clock (most irritating one on 10.04)07:52
lizzinMestreLion: i'm not sure. what do you suggest i use?07:52
g[r]eekHi. How can I check if za.archive.ubuntu.com is working properly or not? Because when I try a simple apt-get install it fails to resolve07:52
MestreLionlizzin: I'm blind-guessing here... osx is capable of gpt partition tables, and they may not be supported by usb-creator07:53
g[r]eekI keep getting "Temporary failure resolving 'za.archive.ubuntu.com'"07:53
MestreLionlizzin: and gpt might be the default format iin Disk Utility07:53
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MestreLionlizzin: try "format Drive" again, it should ask what partition table standard to use07:54
lizzinMestreLion: under osx?07:54
MestreLionlizzin: yes... I'm assuming you're using disk utility and usb-creator in osx, correct?07:54
olegbg[r]eek: I am able to look it up using nslookup - maybe your nameserver is failing07:54
athxxxis possible to connect wpa2 personal from ubuntu to adhoc wifi??07:54
chinosukehi, just want to know is there any live cd version of "ubuntu server". Just want to have it in case my linux box cannot boot up so I still can boot with live cd and access data in the hdd.07:55
karthick87Network connections getting dropped randomly in few ubuntu systems. After restarting the networking services it is getting started working again. How to fix this issue ?07:55
lizzinMestreLion: the options are 'guid pt', 'apple pt' or 'master boot record'07:55
rhin0i don't need little black dialogue boxes to come up when I mouse over anything say on the task bar -- how do I turn them off07:55
rhin0that07:55
rhin010.0407:56
MestreLionchinosuke: if it is just for emergency's sake, why does it need to be a server live cd? the regular one is not fine?07:56
MestreLionlizzin: "master boot record"07:56
lizzinMestreLion: thats what i've been using07:56
chinosukeMestreLion: the regular one just have only installer option. or i missunderstood it.07:57
lizzinMestreLion: ill try this again07:57
MestreLionso you formated with master boot record, and then created a single 8gb fat-32 partition?07:57
MestreLionchinosuke: Ubuntu Desktop's install CDs are LiveCDs07:58
bennypHowdy. I want to install ubuntu on a USB drive but I want it to be a full install, not the LiveCD version of the OS. There's http://tinyurl.com/6oxc6gg, but I don't want the drive to wear down with /tmp being on the flash. How do i set up /tmp in ram in a full install?07:58
chinosuke MestreLion: I don't want desktop enviroment it boot slow.07:59
MestreLionbennyp: use a tmpfs entry in /etc/fstab07:59
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MestreLionchinosuke: isn't it just an emergency recover cd ?08:00
preds_did a dist upgrade, my log file is now full of -> init: tty6 main process (12449) terminated with status 108:00
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preds_any ideas how to debug what's going on?08:00
MestreLionbennyp: something like tmpfs  /tmp  tmpfs   defaults,nodev,nosuid,mode=1777,size=4g    0008:01
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LewocoWhen I do "/bin/ls -lu --full-time /bin/ls" repeatedly, the timestamp doesn't change. Why not?08:01
MestreLionLewoco: because you may have atime disabled on your filesystem08:02
LewocoMestreLion, How do I check?08:02
MestreLionare you sure you want to turn that on08:03
MestreLion?08:03
n4dsphow do i do a change nick08:03
MestreLionLewoco: it's usually a veeery bad idea to have it on08:03
chinosuke MestreLion:  Do desktop live cd has all tool for emergency task like disk utility, mdadm08:03
MestreLionn4dsp: /nick newnick08:03
n4dspthanks08:03
LewocoMestreLion, Who said anything about turning it on?08:03
LewocoMestreLion, I want to check if it's currently on or off.08:04
MestreLionLewoco: sudo debugfs -R feature <device>08:04
bennypMestreLion: thanks I'll try it out08:04
LewocoFilesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize08:05
n4dspso using a LiveCD I can repartition the drive even if it's mounted. Is that correct?08:05
lizzinMestreLion: so im actually using unetbootin under osx08:06
n4dspusing gparted08:06
MestreLionn4dsp: if you use a livecd, your hdd won't be mounted, that is the point ;)08:06
n4dspthanks08:06
LewocoMestreLion, I don't see atime in there. Does that mean it's not enabled?08:06
MestreLionLewoco: yup, but let me confirm that08:07
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n4dspI keep getting privates from Eternal Trav08:08
chinosukeMestreLion:  Do desktop live cd has all tool for emergency task like disk utility, mdadm08:09
karthick87Network connections getting dropped randomly in few ubuntu systems. After restarting the networking services it is getting started working again. How to fix this issue ?08:09
MestreLionchinosuke: if it doesn't have all the tools you need, use a livecd meant for that, like emergengy repair livecd, or gparted cd08:10
bennypMestreLion: will setting that once maintain the tmpfs through reboots?08:11
lizzinMestreLion: so it appears to work but returns "the created usb device will not boot off a mac. insert it into a pc and select the usb boot option in the bios menu." is this normal?08:11
MestreLionyes bennyp ... /etc/fstab is meant for permanent mounts08:12
bennypMestreLion:  sorry, I misunderstood. Should I run that line as a command, or append it to /etc/fstab?08:12
MestreLionlizzin: hummm, mac *requires* gpt ?then I don't know man...08:12
MestreLionbennyp: append that line in your ***USB install*** /etc/fstab08:13
bennypMestreLion: thanks08:13
ejvhi guys, my new user isn't being asked for a password when I sudo, i'm in the sudo group... ideas?08:13
MestreLiondo NOT change your hdd /etc/fstab :P08:13
bennypMestreLion: I took the hard disk *out*, so it'll be hard to miss08:13
bennyp:D08:14
MestreLionbennyp: good :)08:14
ejvis it too close to the initial login, so it's caching my pass? i thought sudo would still ask...08:14
MestreLionejv: you mean not requiring password when you sudo su - <login> ?08:15
ejvnot quite08:15
ejvwhen i simply: sudo <command>08:15
ejvsudo nano /etc/passwd for example, i expect it to ask, and it does not08:15
MestreLionlizzin: I'm not sure about the requirements for usb-creator in osx, sorry... not even sure IF usb-creator is able to hand non-mbr partition tables...08:16
bennypMestreLion: can i skip the swap partition?08:16
MestreLionbennyp: yes, you can delete the partition and adjust fstab accordingly08:17
MestreLionbennyp: OR use the advanced partitioning wizard when installiing08:17
bennypMestreLion: so when i install, i'll set it to NOT create a swap partition08:17
MestreLionbennyp: so it does not even create a swap08:17
MestreLionbennyp: you're good to go :)08:18
subdesignhi08:18
subdesignhow to extract .bin iso file in ubuntu?08:18
Riddellsubdesign: be very careful, that's a programme that needs to be run08:18
vipintruderejv: please, paste the content of your /etc/sudoers file.08:18
bennypMestreLion: can i mount /home as fat?08:19
MestreLionbennyp: i *strongly* advise you NOT to08:19
bennypMestreLion: oh well.. it was a nice idea08:19
TylerWsudo mount -t msdos /dev/sda1 /home08:19
MestreLionbennyp: but you CAN create an aditional /data partition.. and use that to store docs, music, etc08:19
TylerWsudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home08:20
bennypMestreLion: i'm installing for a decidedly non-techie client, so i'd rather keep it simple08:20
bennypInstaller gives me 1 partition of 768mb and another with the rest of the free space, that's correct?08:20
MestreLionTylerW: fat-32 (or ntfs) has no unix permitions... using /home with that ill be chaos08:20
MestreLionbennyp: you might set up as this: leave /home inside / , no need for a separate parttion in an usb install. But create a fat or ntfs data partition and install it in /data08:22
TylerWMestreLion: agreed... I was just answering the question, lol08:22
subdesignRiddell, its 100% an iso image not a linux bin file08:22
TylerWhow do I report pM spams?08:22
MestreLionbennyp: then create symlinks from your user's ~/Documents , ~/Music, etc, pointing to /data/documents , /data/music , etc08:22
bennypMestreLion: i think i'll do that08:22
bennyphow big should the system partition be? it's an 8gb flash drive, so as much space as i can dedicate to fat the better08:23
MestreLionbennyp: this way the ~/ files (including all config files) will be ext3/4 , while your user's data will be saved in a "sharable" fat/ntfs partition.. it is THE best solution, not only for usb installs (I did that with my mom, gf, and myself)08:24
bennypand if I understand that layout, all the files will be written to /, not to /data08:24
vtaIs there any way to convert from i386 package to arm package?08:24
bennypMestreLion: ahh i get it08:24
ohsMestreLion: the vmware problem is solved, I need to mount the SD card. do you know how I can mount the SD card on ubuntu?08:24
bennypI'll delete the 'media' directories under ~ and link them to dirs on /data08:25
MestreLionbennyp: that's a tough question... depends on usage... for a full install you need at least 3~4 GB for / , that does not leave much space for files08:25
MestreLionexactly bennyp08:25
MestreLionohs: Ubuntu should already list the SD card in Nautilus... usually double-click is enough08:26
bennypMestreLion: so 4 gb for / and 4 for data08:26
bennypand i'll tell them that for extra storage, they can buy more flash drives / sd cards08:26
bennypthis is really cool :) :) :)08:26
MestreLionbennyp: that's still very limited... your user would not be able to install too much software with 4G... 5GB would be better08:27
ejvvipintruder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/894808/08:27
ohsMestreLion: on vmware room, they said that SD cards should be mount if I am running ubuntu on vmware08:27
ohsMestreLion: could you please tell me how can I find my SD card and mount it?08:27
MestreLionbennyp: you may consider using a LiveCD partition + casper rw partition... ever heard of that?08:28
MestreLionohs: open NAutilus, it should be there08:28
bennypMestreLion: I have, but I don't want the install to be the livecd version of the OS08:28
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MestreLionbennyp: true, that is not the same thing... but it would save a couple GB's08:29
bennypMestreLion: how feasible would it be to 'roll my own' livecd from a full install?08:29
TylerWmestrelion: linux inside vmware doesn't auto mount sd cards08:29
MestreLionbennyp: 800MB LiveCD, 2GB casper, and * for /data08:29
ohsMestreLion: forgive my ignorance, how can I open NAutilus?08:29
MestreLionohs: File Manager08:30
TylerWmestrelion: we've been working for over an hour trying to figure out what /dev/ device his sd card is, this will go nowhere08:30
ejvohs: type 'nautilus %'08:30
ejvs/%/&/08:30
ohsMestreLion: it is not there08:30
MestreLionTylerW: you say VMWare is not even assigning the SD card a /dev/sdx device ???08:30
MestreLionman, than his trouble is indeed deeper08:31
TylerWmestrelion: it is... but Im having trouble helping him figure out which one it is08:31
TylerWohs: we've been over this... you need to mount it because as we found out in #vmware it doesn't get mounted automatically if its an sd card08:31
MestreLionTylerW: dmesg | grep usb08:31
TylerWthats the difference between hardware and virtualization08:31
bennypsorry about the flaky connection08:31
TylerWohs: dmesg | grep usb08:31
bennypdid i miss anything?08:31
TylerWit won't be picked up as usb because its an sdcard08:32
MestreLionbennyp: true, that is not the same thing... but it would save a couple GB's08:32
TylerWso dmesg | grep usb will return nothing08:32
MestreLionbennyp: 800MB LiveCD, 2GB casper, and * for /data08:32
ejvdmesg is a poor way to locate devices08:32
ejvwhy are you guys telling him that08:32
bennypright, I wanted to know if i could 'roll my own' livecd from a full install08:32
ejvuse lshw08:32
TylerWcat /proc/partitions08:32
MestreLionbennyp: check uck , Ubuntu Customization Kit08:32
ohsroot@ubuntu:~/Desktop# cat /proc/partitions08:33
ohsmajor minor  #blocks  name08:33
ohs   8        0   12582912 sda08:33
ohs   8        1   12002304 sda108:33
ohs   8        2          1 sda208:33
FloodBot1ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:33
MestreLionbennyp: it's a helpful tool for that08:33
ohs   8        5     577536 sda508:33
MestreLionejv: true, sorry08:33
bennypMestreLion: ok i'll look into it… i'm charging the client for labour so it might not be worth their time08:33
vipintruderejv: one moment please...08:33
ejvlet's just rename this channel to #ohs clearly it's his08:33
TylerWlmao08:33
TylerWIve given up, I tried helping for hours08:33
ohsroot@ubuntu:~/Desktop# cat /proc/partitions08:33
ohsmajor minor  #blocks  name08:33
ohs 8        0   12582912 sda08:33
ohs   8        1   12002304 sda108:33
ohs   8        2          1 sda208:33
ohs   8        5     577536 sda508:33
FloodBot1ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:33
afidegnumhello good morningall,08:34
MestreLionbennyp: is this just a way for them to "try out Ubuntu with persistence"... permanentely?08:34
ejvvipintruder: there are no, "NOPASSWD" entries, if that's what you're looking for, it looks "normal" to me08:34
afidegnumis anyone familiar with Zentyal ?08:34
bennypMestreLion: no this is meant to be their day to day OS on the machine08:34
afidegnumI am stucked somewhere and I need your assistance.08:34
MestreLionohs: use a pastebin dude08:34
bennypthe hard drive is totalled, so i offered this solution08:34
ohsok08:34
ejvohs: apt-get install pastebinit08:34
afidegnumI want to install Zentyal remotely via ssh but I need ur help08:34
ejvthen you can pipe to pastebinit ont he command line08:34
MestreLionbennyp: and what's wrong with an hdd install? :P08:34
ejvcat /proc/partitions | pastebinit08:34
bennypMestreLion: they don't have an hdd :D :D :D08:35
TylerWlong story short... it does not appear to be connected to the VM08:35
bennypplus, this is wicked cool08:35
ohsthis is the output when I typed the commands http://pastebin.com/c3GxmwMj08:35
ejvwhile you're at it, apt-get install lshw, then man lshw, learn how to use it08:35
MestreLionbennyp: and what are they using??? An Android phone? :P08:35
ohsthe SD card is 4 GB08:35
bennyptoshiba nb 20508:36
bennypthe old hdd has 900+ bad sectors08:36
MestreLionbennyp: I've used this solution for my mother, when her HDD crashed... but, seriously, this is a 1-month situation, tops.. until they get a new HDD... an 8GB flash is not enough for longer use08:36
TylerWxit08:36
TylerWoops08:36
bennypMestreLion: they only use it for browsing and email08:37
bennypand the occasional doc08:37
vipintruderejv:I think, you must to add your user to the sudoers file, for exaple: youruser    ALL=(ALL) ALL under root    ALL=(ALL) ALL08:37
ejvvipintruder: it should only be necessary to place the user in the proper group, then they inherit the privilege08:37
bennypok time for class08:37
bennypthanks again for the help08:37
MestreLionbennyp: it is still not enough, considering they may download music, videos, etc.. even browser cache can be an issue later08:38
ejvdoes someone, in one line, want to some up exactly what he was trying to do? im lost.08:38
ohsI would be glad if anyone can tell me how can I find the SD card that is insterted. the outputs are here http://pastebin.com/c3GxmwMj08:39
ohswhat command should I type?08:39
ohshow can I find it?08:39
MestreLionejv: he's using VMware in a windows 7 host and Ubuntu client vm. He wants his SD-card to be (auto-monted) in Ubuntu08:39
playerhey, guys I really like the default font of the ubuntu 11.10, but I want to make a change, do you know how to change the default font of 11.10?08:39
ejvweird...08:39
ejvohs: i already suggested lshw08:39
ohsI would appreciate for all advises08:39
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bennypi hear08:39
ejvohs: lshw | pastebinit08:39
karthick87How to move all files and folders from one folder to another folder via terminal ?08:39
MestreLionkarthick87: recursively?08:40
ejvkarthick87: mv08:40
MestreLionkarthick87: if there are no subfolders, simply use mv somedir/* anotherdir08:41
ejvrecursively? recursion does not apply to the mv operation.08:41
ejvit's implied behavior.08:41
ejvyou can't toggle something like that.08:41
weeezesI'm planing on buying a new graphics card, since Diablo 3 is relased soon. I'm happy using the Intel HD3000 with ubuntu, since I don't do any gaming with this. I'd use the Windows install only for playing. Is it possible to disble Ubuntu from using the new graphics card, maybe by just not installing any new drivers? Does it stick with the old graphics card then?08:41
MestreLionejv: you can't move trees using mv either ejv08:42
ejvMestreLion: clarify08:42
ohsejv: the output is here http://pastebin.com/kTqyFzex   but the whole output can not be seen because of the terminal character limitation08:43
ejvohs: did you use pastebinit?08:43
MestreLionejv: mv some/very/long/path/to/file anotherdir  will not work08:43
ohshttp://pastebin.com/kTqyFzex08:43
ohsyes here08:43
ejvsigh08:43
ejvohs: lshw -class storage | pastebinit08:44
karthick87MestreLion: Yes recursively08:44
ejvMestreLion: yes you can, I do it all the time. what version of the GNU toolchain are you using? lol08:44
ejvkarthick87: man mv, it's all explained there08:45
ohsejv: I typed ät http://pastebin.com/7z9Zg7Sf08:45
ohsit08:45
MestreLionejv: will it mv file to anotherdir/file or anotherdir/very/long/path/to/file  ?08:45
MestreLionohs: don't manually copy and paste to pastebin... use the bastebinit command as ejv suggested08:46
MestreLionpastebinit *08:46
ejvhe did the second time08:46
ohsok sorry I did not know08:46
ohswhat it is08:46
ejvand it's not the output i was hoping for heh08:46
MestreLionejv: he didn't, you can still see the command evocation08:46
ejvisn't that automatically prepended to the dump08:47
MestreLionejv: nope... just the output itself08:47
ejvthe result the second time is short08:47
ejvin any case, i don't see it08:47
ohshttp://pastebin.com/drw8Ydk508:48
ohsI did it correct this time08:48
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ejvyea i don't see the device listed, what exactly is it?08:48
ejvbrand, model, etc.08:48
ohsmicroSD HC 4GB Kingston SDC4/4GB08:49
ohsthey are the things written on it08:49
ejvlspci -k | pastebinit08:50
Defusalgood day everyone08:50
ohshttp://pastebin.com/UemUHDQL08:50
MestreLionejv: i'm trying lshw here... but it does not map controllers to the assigned /dev/sdX devices08:51
ejvmine does08:54
Rookie407can anyone tell me why i keep getting bash: permissions denied when i try to open android sdk and what it means?08:54
Tm_TRookie407: the binary hasn't been set to be executable?08:54
ejvlshw provides everything, physical id, vendor, bus info, logical name, etc.08:54
MestreLionohs: I have an idea... do you have Disk Utility installed? It will show all available storage devices, regardless if they are mounted or not08:55
Rookie407thats if i do a drag and drop of the file into the terminal if i try to type it and execute i get no such file or directory08:55
Tm_TRookie407: chmod +x filename (where filename is the binary you are trying to run)08:55
ejvohs: change the class08:55
ohsMestreLion: no, I installed the ubuntu 3 days ago08:55
ejvohs: change the class to volume detection08:55
MestreLionohs: install disk utility then08:55
ejvohs: sudo lshw -class storage -class volume | pastebinit08:56
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Tm_TRookie407: when you are in the folder, "./filename" to execute it?08:56
ejvit should surface08:56
Rookie407Tm_T, it says chmod cannot access 'android': no such file or directory08:56
ejvohs: sudo lshw -class storage -class volume -class disk | pastebinit08:57
Tm_TRookie407: you are not in the folder where the file is?08:57
ejvadd disk there too08:57
ohsejv: root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo lshw -class storage -class volume | pastebinit08:57
ohshttp://pastebin.com/9x5bzhAq08:57
ejvi edited the command, one more time buddy08:57
ohsoh sorry08:57
shenrahey guys.  i think i want to try out ubuntu but im not sure...08:57
ohsroot@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo lshw -class storage -class volume -class disk | pastebinit08:57
ohshttp://pastebin.com/9BYwW79g08:57
ejvshenra: flip a coin. heads yes, tails no.08:58
shenrahave no coin ... i guess there is no answer08:58
shenralol08:58
ejvdo you have any object around you capable of a binary result?08:58
shenraits been a while since i tried ubuntu.08:58
ejvohs: that's better, but i don't see anything besides your optical drives and primary disk08:59
Rookie407yeah this is confusing the hell outta me08:59
ejvohs: this makes me wonder if your kernel doesn't have the proper support for this kingston SD card08:59
Rookie407not it wont let me get past the /home folder08:59
ejvor perhaps your SD card backplane isn't identified and/or supported08:59
ejvmight be bugzilla worthy, *shrug*09:00
MestreLionejv: we are not even sure if vmware is properly exposing the card, or HOW it is doing so09:00
ejvahhh09:01
ejvyea that's a windows or vmware problem, not an ubuntu problem09:01
Rookie407Tm_T, thank you for your help after i finally figured out how to even get to the right folder typing ./(filename) worked =)09:01
ejvhere i thought we were running vmware on a linux host09:02
MestreLionejv ohs: SD cards are pretty standard, regardless of manufacturer... it's all about the card READER, which are usually USB/PCI internally09:02
ohsejv: I get the SD card with a TI product, normally it should be working fine I guess I never seen any notice about it. this is the printscreen of my wmware http://i42.tinypic.com/2h6c36s.jpg09:02
Rookie407i been trying to figure this out for hours09:02
shenrahey guys what is a freenode channel with admins? i want to report someone to the server admins09:02
MestreLion[05:39]<MestreLion> ejv: he's using VMware in a windows 7 host and Ubuntu client vm. He wants his SD-card to be (auto-monted) in Ubuntu09:02
ejvshenra, chances are someone beat you to it, just /ignore them09:03
ejvMestreLion: right, didn't see that09:03
ejvohs: this might sound... archaic, but why not use filezilla or any other SFTP client, and copy your files INTO your VM?09:03
ejvsetup openssh-server on your VM, find out it's IP via ifconfig, and you're on your merry way09:04
RealKillazGents what happened to the sun-java6-jdk package?09:04
ohsI need to load an image to the SD card from here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/09:04
ejvim sorry im out of ideas here lol09:04
ohsit gives instructions how to do it for linux09:05
RealKillazI tried to add the archive.canonical.com in the sources lists09:05
shenraRealKillaz, it got replaced with openjdk i believe but there is a tutorial on how to do it.09:05
RealKillazbut still it is not there09:05
ohsthat"s why I am trying to mount the SD card to ubuntu, then I will load the image09:05
MestreLionohs: the more commands you paste, the more i'm sure this is a vmware issue... i mean... there's no device besides the ubuntu partions... it is not a matter of mounting, the SD card *device* is non-existant09:05
shenraRealKillaz, what do you mean still not there? were you able to install it?09:05
ejvyea this isn't an ubuntu problem, ubuntu only knows the resources that the Hypervisor "reports" to it09:06
RealKillazshenra: I'n my previous installation of ubuntu 10.04 LTS I could09:06
ejvin this case an issue with VMware09:06
ejvhonestly, dump vmware, and use virtualbox instead, much ebtter09:06
MestreLionohs: vmware is not reporting the SD card to Ubuntu09:06
ejvs/ebtter/better/09:06
RealKillazshenra: now suddenly the same ubuntu 10.04 LTS the package is gone09:06
MestreLionRealKillaz: Oracle terminated Java's binary agreement09:07
damo22ejv: what makes virtualbox better than vmware?09:07
shenraRealKillaz, follow http://www.gaggl.com/2011/10/installing-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-11-10/09:07
RealKillazwhy didn't they leave it and remove it in the next LTS version?09:07
MestreLiondamo22: it properly exposes SD cards in windows hosts to ubuntu vm's09:07
MestreLionRealKillaz: ask Oracle09:07
ohsejv, MestreLion: thank you very very much for your help and time, I will download virtual box09:07
damo22is that it?09:08
ejvohs, i've used vbox on both windows and ubuntu hosts, works great, and it's free-er than vmware09:08
karim_you known a soft equal to internet download manager in ubuntu please help me09:08
MestreLionohs: maybe vmware CAN do that, and it's just a matter of properly setting it up... but, as Ubuntu is concerned, your card does not exist at all... vmware must expost it09:08
ejv10 bucks says vbox nails it on the first try09:08
ejv;)09:08
MestreLionejv: i rase to 20 ;)09:08
MestreLionraise*09:08
ejvyou're supposed to disagree wtih me09:09
damo22i thought 3d support is more complete in vmware09:09
ejvwe can't agree lol09:09
RealKillazMestreLion: what has the package in an OS has to do with Oracle? Ubuntu should just put it there let me decide if I would like to use it or not... or am I seeing it wrong?09:09
MestreLionejv: nope, i'm a big fan of VirtualBox... never used vmware before09:09
shenra3d support in vmware ended up working instantly in one of their updates for me09:09
ejvi used to work in an esx environment09:09
MestreLionejv: and not willing to since it looks so painful to set up ;)09:09
MestreLionRealKillaz: Ubuntu is not ALLOWED to do so anymore09:10
ejventerprise environments use it because of SLA :)09:10
damo22i will change to virtual box if i can make it boot from usb stick09:10
MestreLionRealKillaz: Oracle terminated it's java license that allowed Ubuntu to host binary java files09:10
ejvhow about you do your homework, and check vbox trac, before jumping in? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker09:11
MestreLiondamo22: so change... VB do that09:11
damo22how?09:12
MestreLionRealKillaz: a "package in an OS" has *everything* do do with it if the distro is not allowed to host java binaries anymore09:12
shenraMastreLion... thats kind of funny they do claim to support the open source idea but then completely say on their website that they will use opensource developments and add their own "propietary" stuff to finalize java709:12
MestreLionshenra: "they" who?09:13
shenraoracle09:13
shenrai was reading different things about their involvment with openjdk09:13
MestreLionand you believed their press releases about supporting FOSS ?09:13
ejvthis is getting rather offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wanna keep discussing it09:13
MestreLionshenra: until Oracle actually publishes OpenJDK as the RI, true "support" is a joke09:15
RealKillazMestreLion: ok09:15
MestreLionbut I agree with ejv , this is off-tipoc09:15
MestreLionbottom line is: Ubuntu was forced by Oracle to remove java binaries from repos09:15
MestreLionbecause Oracle terminated the license that allowed it09:16
COTOHAÊÓ09:16
MestreLionUbuntu *could* still host old versions, but security serious flaws were discovered in them09:16
st1how can I update manual for a utility?09:17
MestreLionand thus it was decided to remove the package, new and older versions09:17
MestreLionso, for java in Ubuntu, use either the default and recommended OpenJDK , or download and install from Oracle website yourself09:18
st1that's odd, after I used two new option in rtcwake, those two appears in man page09:19
shenrahey whats the best way to transfer over 40 GB of data from windows to Ubuntu by completely replacing windows?09:20
SadPandashenra: Are you saying you have data on your windows system that you want to migrate to linux?09:21
shenrayes.09:21
SadPandaBack it up, install linux, copy it over.09:21
shenrai have nothing to back it up to its that big... the biggest storage device i have is 4GB usb09:22
Nepheriusyou could use some online storage09:22
SadPandashenra: Either online storage as Nepherius suggested, or you'd have to shrink the windows partition, install linux on the free space, copy over your windows data, then repartition the rest of the drive.  But, you should backup before doing that.  :)09:23
MestreLionSadPanda: install ubuntu, reboot, you will be able to copy files over... then delete windows partition ;)09:23
min_всем привет!09:23
shenraive done that before but the resize took like over an hour.09:24
SadPandaMestreLion: Isn't that what I just said?09:24
MestreLionshenra: for big hdds, that's the time it takes really09:24
SadPandashenra: There really isn't a magical solution to do it instantly and 100% safely.09:24
MestreLionSadPanda: in a nutshell, yes09:24
SadPandaMestreLion: I'm curious, why tell me then?  lol09:25
MestreLionshenra: how large is your hdd ?09:25
shenra500 GB09:25
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lotuspsychjeloose the windows09:25
MestreLionshenra: assuming your partitition is almost full, 1h for copying and resizng and everything is quite fast...09:26
Znowmy top bar wont show, how can I get it to show static, like in the older versions of ubuntu?09:26
lotuspsychjeZnow: you mean like gnome?09:27
Znowlotuspsychje: yeah I guess09:27
MestreLionServerSage: actually, there is... it's called "use a data partiton in windows instead of saving everything to C:\users"  :P09:27
lotuspsychjeZnow: unity is now default, there's only left side bar09:27
Znowlotuspsychje: its so crappy, really09:27
lotuspsychje!unity09:27
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity09:27
Znowlotuspsychje: cant find the settings I need anymore09:27
Nepheriuson login window you can choose gnome classic09:28
Znow!notunity09:28
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic09:28
MestreLionZnow: there are other great distros out there if you don't like Unity09:28
lotuspsychjeZnow: you could try install gnome-shell or lubuntu09:28
ZnowNepherius: can I? nice, 2 sec09:28
ServerSageMestreLion: That is something you'd have to do from the start.  I was referring to the original question.09:28
ZnowMestreLion: Erhh okay, I like ubuntu, not unity09:28
MestreLionpeople complain so heavily about Unity as if anyone was forcing them to use it09:28
MestreLionZnow: Use Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, still lots of choices in the Ubuntu family09:29
fidelMestreLion: i guess several ppl dont even know they arent forced to use it ;)09:29
fidelconsider that as well hehe09:29
ZnowMestreLion: no thanks, ill use ubuntu...09:29
shenrathats been what i siad, people forget that you can "chage" the look-n-feel of linux :/09:29
llutz_there are dozens of windowmanager/DEs available, why should one use a different distro just because one dislike unity?09:29
MestreLionServerSage: true, but that is not Ubuntu's fault09:29
lotuspsychjeZnow: once u learn to know unity its very easy09:29
thevinci how do i install third party drivers from the command line in ubuntu server?  I need my broadcom wireless driver to work09:30
ServerSageMestreLion: Never said or implied it was.  :/09:30
ZnowNepherius: I can choose Ubuntu 2d, nothing else09:30
Znowlotuspsychje: probably, but I cant seem to find the advanced settings....09:30
Nepheriusstrange, I'm sure i had the option to choose gnome classic :)09:30
lotuspsychjeZnow: what do you need?09:30
Znowlotuspsychje: the advanced settings... for the system... that I could find in the top bar09:31
thevincianyone?09:31
thevinci how do i install third party drivers from the command line in ubuntu  server? I need my broadcom wireless driver to work09:31
lotuspsychjeZnow: you can find it all in the ubuntu icon left upper corner09:32
Znowlotuspsychje: well, I still want my top bar.... not the fancy Unity stuff09:32
Nepheriusunity is a lot better than gnome :)09:32
MestreLionthevinci: does it need to be crom command line?09:32
Nepheriusjust install gnome as someone suggested09:33
lotuspsychje!info compizconfig-settings-manager | Znow09:33
ubottuZnow: compizconfig-settings-manager (source: compizconfig-settings-manager): Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.5.92-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 1180 kB, installed size 5780 kB09:33
ZnowAnd now when Ive isntalled Samba, and want to run it, it starts but then shuts down?09:33
Znowlotuspsychje: ive installed that09:33
MestreLion"run" samba? samba is a service, not an app09:33
lotuspsychjeZnow: you can tweak some settings on the unity plugin there09:33
Rookie407is it possible to partition a hardrive with say partition magic then move all the files from the drive i have now with the linux /home and what not on it to said parted drive and it still work proporly or would i have to reinstall linux?09:33
ZnowMestreLion: errh it appears as a app....09:34
MestreLionZnow: you mean system-config-samba ?09:34
lotuspsychje!spam09:34
ZnowMestreLion: probably.. its just called Samba - anyhow, do I need a static ip address for my ubuntu vm, for windows to map a network drive?09:35
lotuspsychjehmmm where to report a spam09:35
Nepherius!maps09:35
ubottuStreet mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes Navit, MoNav (http://code.google.com/p/monav/), Gosmore (free vector maps from OSM), GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)09:35
Rookie407anyone?09:35
Jordan_Ulotuspsychje: #ubuntu-ops09:35
MestreLionRookie407: you can, but i suggest using gparted / dd for that09:35
lotuspsychjetnx jordan09:35
Jordan_Ulotuspsychje: You're welcome.09:35
Znow"Share files over the netwrork" - "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" ......09:35
Znowwtf09:35
Rookie407k and is there any files that are a NEED to stay on the original drive linux was installed to?09:36
MestreLionRookie407: check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4720909:36
MestreLionZnow: so install the required packages09:36
MestreLionZnow: samba is not installed by default, thanks god :P09:36
ZnowMestreLion: which are?! dont know their names09:36
MestreLionZnow: doesn't it present a "do it" button for that?09:37
akashm1990I'm running Ubuntu on a laptop. The System monitor shows CPU usage in excess of 50% on idle, but the processes tab shows about 20-30% at max. How can I find out where the excess is going? Graph: http://snag.gy/IQlh5.jpg process manager:http://snag.gy/84Lbw.jpg09:37
MestreLionRookie407: don't you want to clone the old hdd to the new one?09:38
MestreLionZnow: you can install Samba using the Software Manager... but IIRC this install is auto-triggered when you try to share folders09:39
shenraOkay another question... can Ubuntu easily share a printer on a network with a Windows netbook?09:39
MestreLionNepherius: GoogleEarth is (at least was) not Qt, but embedded wine09:40
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MestreLionshenra: yes, and it usually finds and installs the available network printers much easier than windows09:41
shenraok... i have anoter windows machine that im going to just put ubuntu on later.09:43
MestreLionshenra: just make sure Samba is installed in both and you'll be fine09:46
blizzkidBarzogh:09:46
llutz_shenra: theres no need for samba to share printers. just configure cups to be accessible from network and add your printer in windows as network-printer, using "http://yourlinuxmachine:631/printers/yourprintername09:48
thevinciMestreLion: i don't know what crom command line is09:51
MestreLioncrom or cron?09:51
thevinciI've just installed ubuntu server on my old laptop and want to hook it up to my wireless internet, but i need the broadcom driver09:52
thevinciwhatever you said before...09:52
thevinciI'm just using the command line that ubuntu server starts in\09:52
MestreLionthevinci: it was a typo... crom = from*09:52
thevinciahh!09:53
thevincihaha09:53
thevinciyes09:53
thevinciit should be from command line, i haven't installed a GUI for my server09:53
thevinciwould rather not09:53
MestreLionthevinci: i have no idea... maybe jockey has a command line?09:53
MestreLionthevinci: jockey is the app that installs proprietary drivers easily and pain-free... check to see if there is a similar command-line tool for that09:54
MestreLionthevinci: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2211809:55
WanderingEnderWhat's the generally accepted method for a headless Ubuntu Desktop?09:55
WanderingEnderVNC or NX? Clients would be Windows 7.09:55
DudirNX is a lot faster09:56
AciidNX09:57
fowlCan someone please help, I want to add to menu.lst but I don't have one.. I have some crazy grub.cfg that's a shell script09:57
MestreLionWanderingEnder: rcp is also an option09:57
jrib!grub | fowl09:57
ubottufowl: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:57
WanderingEnder!rcp09:58
WanderingEnder(Not familiar with RCP. Is that Windows Remote Desktop Connection?)09:58
MestreLionare people still struggling with grub1's menu.lst after almost 3 years of grub2 adoptance ?09:58
MestreLionyes WanderingEnder... there are servers for Ubuntu09:58
fowljrib: thanks09:58
WanderingEnderDo they work well, MestreLion?09:59
WanderingEnderLast time I tried one, it was RDP to VNC and slow as sin.09:59
WanderingEnderSin is not very fast, you see.09:59
fowlMestreLion: im going to downgrade when i get the chance09:59
MestreLionWanderingEnder: it is not a native unix technology, but yes, works quite well...09:59
MestreLionWanderingEnder: and if your main concern is access from windows clients, well... they all have remote desktop out-of-the-box10:00
WanderingEnderDo you have a suggestion for a RDP server in Ubuntu repo?10:00
Dudirxrdp10:00
MestreLionWanderingEnder: i use xrdp10:00
WanderingEnderLooking at xrdp, then. Thanks.10:00
Dudirand you could use X11rdp if you don want it to use vnc10:01
MestreLionfowl: and go back to manually adding OSes instead of auto-scanning? Good luck :P10:01
WanderingEnderWhen I used xdrp before, it was kinda slow to refresh, and #Ubuntu blamed it on the VNC.10:01
fowlMestreLion: yes, because now i'd like to add to the list and instead of being able to just edit it i have to do some crazy stuff10:03
DudirI found it sluggish as well. I tried it with X11rdp, but haven't done proper testing to see if it was much faster10:03
DudirThe only machines I use to remotely connect with have nx clients installed, so was to lazy to try :p10:03
MestreLionWanderingEnder: as I've said, it is not native unix protocol, so it lacks some of the more recent RDPv6 (or v5?) features10:04
WanderingEnderActually, I may just use a KVM.10:04
MestreLionfowl: add what? update-grub already scans all drives for you10:05
MestreLionfowl: you can always disable probing by chmod +x the probing scripts10:06
llutz_fowl: generate a 40_costom once and you'll be fine with grub210:06
llutz_40_custom*10:06
MestreLionfowl: you can even disable them all and use 40_custom of your own, manually, just like old grub times :P10:06
fowlman what a pain in the ass10:07
llutz_fowl: just call it grub210:07
MestreLionfowl: editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom in grub2 is just like editing /boot/gtub/menu.lst, I fail to see why is that harder10:08
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warddrHello, I am looking for a very well supported usb wireless adapter, anyone any advise?10:09
MestreLionwarddr: Antheros chipsets have a very good out-of-the-box support10:10
MestreLionAtheros*10:10
MestreLionwhile most broadcom ones require proprietary firmware10:10
Jordan_U!hcl | warddr10:13
ubottuwarddr: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:13
Jordan_Uwarddr: Also, while there are well supported USB wireless dongles, an internal wireless card is a much better bet if it's an option.10:13
MestreLionthat's true... much more stable and better range than dongles.. perhaps faster too10:14
warddrjordan, I have one in my notebook, but for some reason if I close my notebook (don't go in standby) the connection is lost, and I have to reboot before I can make a connection again10:14
Jordan_Uwarddr: Have you filed a bug report about this?10:15
warddrno10:15
Jordan_Uwarddr: Please do.10:16
Jordan_U!bug | warddr10:16
ubottuwarddr: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.10:16
warddrIt is a RTL8188CE , but I have to do some tests on windows to see if it's hardware or software10:16
tozziWow, so many people10:17
tozzi:>10:17
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tofugoatmorning10:18
warddrIt's a known problem appearantly:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=13299710:18
livtyler"ssh user@work.example.org -L 10000:172.16.10.10:22 -g" keeps me just listening in 127.0.0.1 and not globally like it should10:18
livtylerany hints on this?10:18
josephello10:19
tofugoati have a silly question, i am installing ubuntu and the installer has detected a mounted partition....i wasnt aware i had one and so shall i say yay or nay?10:19
_nik2909hello guys, how can i blacklist a compiled-in linux driver?10:20
monohedrontofugoat, what is the question10:20
livtyler!blacklist10:20
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »10:20
tofugoati am installing ubuntu and the installer has detected a mounted partition....i wasnt aware i had one and so shall i say yay or nay?10:20
_nik2909yeah, but its not a module10:21
monohedronwhat question is the installer asking10:21
livtyler_nik2909: a driver is a module10:21
_nik2909but its compiled into the kernel by me10:22
[Si]livtyler try ssh user@work.example.org -L *:10000:172.16.10.2210:22
tofugoat...has detected the following disc has a mounted particion dev sda dev sdc, do you want the installer to try to unmount....10:22
[Si]livtyler :22 at the end10:22
tofugoat(gosh i feel so silly asking such a  basic thing)10:22
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bdiIs it possible to see what process is occupying  the connected USB device?10:23
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livtylertofugoat: is it a laptop netbook?, make sure it is not its recovery partition10:23
shansoldmacanyone know how to get dial up working?10:24
monohedronor any other partition you want to keep10:24
monohedroneven if you unmount them you don't HAVE to use them, thats up to you in the next step10:24
tofugoatlivtyler, yes its a laptop, and i see, aha, a recovery partition. hm, well, i had not ever noticed that there is one.10:24
tofugoatso if i say leave partition mounted, will it still all work?10:25
monohedronit just means they become available for you to mess with10:25
monohedrontofugoat, it's not that simple. it also depends whether and where you install your bootloader but the partitions will be spared10:25
tofugoatoh no :o difficulties!!!10:26
warddrJordan_U, I'm going to try to compile the newest driver myself, and give that a try. If that works I can immediately provide a solution in the bug report I'll create :D10:26
diverdudeIs it possible to see what process is occupying  the connected USB device?10:27
_nik2909livtyler: i compiled a custom kernel and included a driver into it (not as a module), now how can i prevent this driver from beeing loaded ?10:27
shansoldmacdiverdude: yes10:27
tofugoatand if i leave ubuntu on the stick, boot from there, can i still install compiz and all that?10:27
shansoldmacdiverdude: there is a command... I think the cli will hint at it when you try to umount it10:28
monohedronwell at least for the ongoing session10:28
monohedronit may not be persistent though10:28
diverdudeshansoldmac: its because i have a camera connected, and when i run a program to use the camera it says the device is already in use10:28
mydogsnameisrudytofugoat: what is it that your trying to do ? dual boot?10:29
diverdudeshansoldmac: its connected via usb10:29
tofugoatmydog yes10:29
diverdudeshansoldmac: but i have no idea what process is occupying10:29
mydogsnameisrudyand it has windows on it?10:29
llutz_diverdude: lsof /dev/whatever10:29
shansoldmacdiverdude: mayne it's mounted as a mass storage device?10:29
shansoldmac*maybe10:29
tofugoatmydog, yes it has. and ubuntu recognises all and everything. its w710:29
mydogsnameisrudyok you need to go into windows 7 see how many partitions it has now ... if there are 4 you will need to remove one of them . but becareful what you do there10:30
monohedrontofugoat, then you shouldn't have any issues assuming you have free space on the disk10:30
livtyler_nik2909: if it's compiled into the kernel there's not much to do, try sysctl -a | grep your_driver_name, if it shows something, then you can use sysctl.conf10:31
monohedronubuntu will during the installation probe for other OS and add them to the bootloader10:31
_nik2909livtyler: i allready tried that, there are no parameters for the driver (r8169)10:31
tofugoatplenty of space on the harddrive, i wasnt aware there are partitions, so i will go and check deeper then see whats what , maybe use wobi?10:32
_nik2909livtyler: so i have to recompile the kernel :(10:32
monohedronif you have the space or can make it just install ubuntu and you are good10:32
tofugoataha monohedron. but as i said it asks if i want to unmount the partition (the one i didnt know i had, )10:32
livtyler_nik2909: you can try a very basic modprobe -r in rc.local and then modprobe the_new_driver10:33
mydogsnameisrudyyou should google dual boot window7 and ubuntu10:33
TiktalikI'm trying to get Steam to run, but I get the following error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:33
TiktalikAny clue on what I can do to fix this?10:34
tofugoatyes, mydog, you are right, i will do that now. thanks for your help gys. :)10:34
tofugoatguys10:34
mydogsnameisrudyand dont delete any partitions untill you know what they are10:34
monohedrontofugoat, it doesn't matter where you get the free space from as long as you have it, you don't have to resize existing partition if there is still enough free space on that disk10:34
tofugoatthanks, i wont10:34
_nik2909livtyler: modprobe -r r8169 doesnt work, because the driver is not a loadable kernel module10:35
tofugoatok monohedron.. i think i will practice on my old laptop and then if anything goes wrong i have learned something and i can just reformat. i WILL get theer10:35
tofugoatthere10:35
monohedrontofugoat,  well i did a resize with no problems at all on a win7 machine10:35
livtyler_nik2909: have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166148910:35
monohedronbut i can't know what the state your laptop is in10:36
root...10:36
tofugoattrue monohedron. well, i am confident i can do it, i just do some more research. thanks again10:37
monohedrontofugoat, your welcome10:37
tofugoat:-)10:37
[Si]tofugoat have fun with the old laptop :) nice to have something that you can trash while learning things :)10:37
_nik2909livtyler: it would work if I had compiled the r8169 driver as a loadable kernel module, however I compiled the driver into the kernel.10:38
livtyler_nik2909: then you know what to do next :´(10:39
moskawho can tell me what is the deafult direction of mailx ?10:39
llutz_moska: direction?10:39
_nik2909livtyler: so my idea was to tell the kernel by means of a boot parameter, something like "blacklist_compiled_in_drivers = r8169" and then load another driver which is a module by modprobe10:40
karambaban me please10:40
[Si]moska which mailx10:40
moskallutz: ~$ mail10:40
moskaNon-null variable name required10:40
moskaNo mail for lolkamea10:40
karambabut no kick10:40
moska[Si]: heirloom-mailx10:40
livtyler_nik2909: yay, that sounds like a plan, go ahead10:41
_nik2909livtyler: there is not such boot parameter :(10:41
llutz_moska: idk what you really want to know. mail gets mail from /var/mail/user and sends mail to localhost:2510:41
karambaBAN me please but dont kick10:42
livtyler_nik2909: at grub in the kernel line I think there's disablemodules=driver1,driver2 but I don't know if it still works with grub210:43
eyveerhow to execute .sh file from other directory? current directory is ~/a/ and script is in ~/a/b/c/d/asd.sh10:43
llutz_eyveer: sh path/to/your/scrpt.sh10:43
[Si]moska what does hostname -f say?10:43
_nik2909livtyler: I'll try right now10:43
eyveerllutz_ heh so obvious ;) thanks10:43
moskallutz: i installed the getmail4, i would like to use mail to watch mail,my english is bad,sorry10:43
debianerhello everyone10:45
_nik2909livtyler: kernel still loaded the driver :( on to recompiling10:45
livtyler_nik2909: :(10:45
moska[Si]: no mail for lolkamea10:45
llutz_moska: mail -f yourmbox10:45
moskallutz: i try it10:46
debianercould i plz ask a question?10:46
debianerwho can help me?10:46
llutz_!ask | debianer10:46
ubottudebianer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:46
TiktalikI'm trying to get steam to run10:46
TiktalikExcept it's telling me it can't find libGL.so.110:46
[Si]moska the "Non-null variable name required" error I think is due to the host not being set. please run in a terminal hostname -f10:47
TiktalikI get this error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:47
debianerIs it possible to make a debian or ubuntu repository from a DVD set?10:47
moskallutz: lolkamea@lolkamea-1011PX:~$ mail -f .getmail/mail/new10:48
moska.getmail/mail/new: is a directory10:48
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llutz_moska: iirc mailx only works with mbox, not mdir10:48
karambaFUCK linux/unix only windows!10:48
_nik2909karamba: lol10:48
* shenra notices we win10:49
_nik2909livtyler: it worked, recompiled the kernel w/o the r8169 driver and now the r8168 loaded kernel module has taken over10:49
TiktalikHey, can someone help me with my driver problem? I'm trying to get steam to run, but it can't find libGL.so.110:49
livtyler!yay | _nik290910:49
ubottu_nik2909: Glad you made it! :-)10:49
moskallutz: how to fix it ?10:50
llutz_moska: read getmail4 documentation, i don't know about it. and pls answer [Si] question10:51
moskallutz: thx10:51
moska[Si]: my english is bad ,sorry10:52
jorgesuarez_I can't define an action in policykit for upstart on 10.04, can someone help me? I detail this on http://askubuntu.com/questions/115052/define-a-policykit-action-for-upstart maybe some help debugging? I don't know where to start10:52
moska[Si]: i don't configura  .mailrc10:53
moska[Si]: i don't set .mailrc10:53
M1L0hi all10:53
[Si]Tiktalik seems to be a known issue with the current steam client, if you look at the winehq page for steam there are lots of people talking about it.10:54
M1L0some people rhr?10:54
[Si]moska run hostname -f10:54
M1L0maybe some speak spqnish?10:55
moska[Si]: what does it mean 'hostname' ? my user name ?10:55
seroqueldoes anyone know if it is possible to change the icon that appears when you change your volume on ubuntu?10:55
[Si]in a terminal just type hostname -f10:56
moska[Si]: lolkamea@lolkamea-1011PX:~$ hostname -f10:57
moskalolkamea-1011PX10:57
[Si]moska your problem is not what I thought it was :(10:57
ardianHello, my laptop fan is making too much noise even nothing is open, im on ubuntu 11.10 64bit10:58
moska[Si]: anyway ,thx10:59
Fudgehi, how do you kill a pid that wont die, i am root and kill -9 pid doesnt kill it11:01
llutz_Fudge: its a zombie?11:02
Fudgeim not sure how to tell which pids are, there are two11:02
sacarlsonFudge: might try killall -9 procname11:02
Fudgeon 1 actually11:02
Fudgeits Xorg11:02
Defusalhi everyone11:03
sacarlsonFudge: oh and if it's something like network-manager it will auto restart itself from some cron or some other proc11:03
Defusali can't get /etc/sudoers to work for allowing commands without a password, can someone please help?11:03
Defusali followed a tutorial but it doesn't work11:03
Fudgesacarlson  its Xorg11:03
Fudge100% cpu, having to ssh to try and fix11:03
rileypFudge ps -a11:04
llutz_Fudge: sudo pkill -9 X11:04
karamba!rpm-fusion11:04
rileypFudge: man ps11:05
Fudgellutz_  tried that, it just wont die11:05
sacarlsonDefusal: this is what I found so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19236;  I can look at my own examples11:05
MonkeyDustDefusal  having to use the password is not without reason, better not change or disable it11:05
DefusalMonkeyDust, i didn't ask for advice11:06
Defusali need a script to be able to run things with super user11:06
Defusalif you have a better way, by all means let me know11:06
Ben64what are you trying to do11:06
Defusalbut i do not think there is one11:06
Fudgerileyp  ps -a shows ssh screen bash but not xorg11:06
geirhaHow to configure sudo is more of an OS question. Definitely not bash.11:07
DefusalBen64, i need to run various things spawned by a non-root process including useradd (super user) and spawning things as other users (non super user)11:07
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Defusalas far as i know, using sudoers is the best way to do this11:08
rileypDefusal: i need a script to be able to run things with super user  what needs to run as su11:08
Ben64Defusal: thats very unspecific11:08
Fudgerileyp  25559 tty12    00:25:16 Xorg11:08
Defusalrileyp, read up i just explained11:08
Fudgedoes kill pkill etc have a verbose flag?11:08
DefusalBen64, what part do you not understand?11:09
Ben64<Ben64> Defusal: thats very unspecific11:09
Defusali have a platform that does not run as root11:09
[Si]Fudge try stopping lightdm (sudo service lightdm stop)11:09
Defusalit needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users11:09
rileypDefusal:  why not su -c11:09
OerDefusal, what tutorial are you following ?11:09
Defusali cannot be any more clear11:09
Ben64why not run it with root's crontab11:09
DefusalOer, im not sure, i did it yesterday and assumed it worked, but my sudo password was obviously cached11:10
rileypand edit sudoers like you say on those programs so no password is required11:10
DefusalBen64, because that is not what i need to do.11:10
geirhaDefusal: We can help you with the script, but if sudo isn't working, as your OS channel.11:10
Ben64removing sudo password is a big security hole11:10
Ben64Defusal: well you aren't giving any details11:10
OerDefusal, .. not sure .. why?11:10
Defusalrileyp, sudo -i -u should be better than sudo su -c11:10
sacarlsonadd a line like this to /etc/sudoers;  defusal ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL11:11
Fudgesi it was started with startx11:11
Defusalsacarlson, i don't want to unrestrict it completely...11:11
rileypsacarlson:  tes and put at at the bottom11:11
Ben64!details | Defusal11:11
rileypthats a yes11:11
ubottuDefusal: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:11
Defusalthis is the line that does not work: admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/admin/script/sudo.rb11:12
Defusalany ideas why?11:12
keberwww.hot.ee/keber/satan.JPG11:12
[Si]Fudge does switching to the vt and doing ctrl-alt-backspace kill it?11:12
ikoniadefine does not work11:12
mozilla928-)11:12
OerDefusal, all you need is a root-account, witch is unfortunatly disabled.11:12
Fudgesi i cant use the machine11:13
Ben64root is not disabled11:13
Fudgeelse would control C at the console i started11:13
DefusalBen64, i explained quite clearly my use case and told you that if you know of a better way to accomplish exactly what i said, then give it to me11:13
Ben64Defusal: you did not explain clearly at all11:13
Defusal...11:13
geirhaDefusal: Oops, sorry for confusing you, I was sure this was #bash :/  anyway, you run this script as a user named admin?11:14
ikoniaDefusal: what are you trying to actually do ?11:14
Defusalyeah ok i'll go to #bash, thanks anyway11:14
Fudgeperhaps I can find a Xorg pidfile to delete?11:14
Defusalikonia: as i said twice to Ben64, i have a platform that does not run as root. it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users11:14
sacarlsondefusal ALL=NOPASSWD: /home/admin/script/sudo.rb 11:15
Ben64Defusal: you keep saying that, and i keep saying that is not very specific11:15
Defusalso i created a sudo script that limits what it can do, and made a sudoers exception for it11:15
Defusalbut that did not work11:15
livtylerI have followed the steps to ssh without password(.ssh/authorized_keys) but it still asks me to input password, could you help me troubleshoot?11:15
Defusalcome to think of it11:15
ikoniaDefusal: platform that does not run as root ? is this ubuntu11:15
Defusalgeirha, sudo is not bash.11:15
jribDefusal: instead of "did not work" say exactly what you did and what the result was please11:15
Defusaljrib, it asks for the password?11:15
ikoniaDefusal: are you running ubuntu11:15
jribDefusal: this is half of what I asked :?11:16
geirhaDefusal: Indeed, hence sorry for the confusion.11:16
Defusalikonia, obviously...11:16
rileypikonia is on the money....11:16
Defusalwhy the hell would i be here otherwise11:16
ikoniaDefusal: not obvious as you said "I have an paltform not run as root" which doens't say it's ubuntu11:16
rileypwell then you can run as root but its unsafe11:16
geirhaDefusal: Anyway, the user that should run this script is named "admin"?11:16
Defusalgoodness, i always feel like im getting harassesed in this channel11:16
Fudgemaybe you guys can spell it out instead of gettin g frustrated11:16
Defusali think its time to start using more generic linux channels11:17
bazhangFudge, whats the issue11:17
Ben64livtyler: are you the real Liv Tyler? and often times you need to restart the ssh daemon to have the keys take effect11:17
rileypDefusal: you are asking for it with the  "I have an paltform not run as root"11:17
mozilla92hey everybody!11:17
Fudgebazhang  with what mate?11:17
Defusalikonia: by platform, i mean application.11:17
ikoniaDefusal: if you ask questions clearly - people will answer clearly11:17
ikoniaDefusal: right, so again, explaining this clearly and we'll work it out11:17
ikoniaDefusal: so what's the end goal ?11:17
MonkeyDustDefusal  you always want the most improbable and far-fetched things11:17
Defusalgeirha: correct, the application spawning the sudo.rb script is run as user 'admin'11:17
bazhangFudge, thought you were asking for assistance, my mistake11:18
[Si]livtyler take a look at /var/log/syslog after the login attempt, it may point at a permissions issue with the .authorized_keys file.11:18
Fudgebazhang  oh i am trying to kill ap id yes, think i may have to reboot but i dont want to11:18
DefusalMonkeyDust, that is my daily life, either help me, or leave me alone :O(11:18
indistyloEncoutntering installation error in asterisk , http://pastebin.com/iXsDND5t11:18
Defusali have enough stuggling and time wasting as is, as i always seem to require the edge case11:18
DrewMigHi everyone11:18
Defusalbut none the less, i have to make teh best of it11:18
geirhaDefusal: Ok, make sure that line is at the bottom of /etc/sudoers, below the one giving the admin group privileges to use sudo.11:18
livtylerBen64: yes, I'm Liv Tyler, and I have restarted many times and no joy 'til now11:18
Defusalikonia, i explained carefully at the beginning11:19
geirhaDefusal: The order of the rules matter11:19
livtyler[Si]: will look into that right now11:19
Fudgebazhang  the prob is i started kde from tty4 startx after writing a .xinitrc and the Xorg pid 25559 will not die, i am having to ssh to the box as its using 100% cpu, kill -9 25559 pkill -9 X is not working, I am root #11:19
Defusalikonia,  it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users11:19
ikoniaDefusal: I've not seen that so I'm asking you to explain to me now11:19
ikoniaDefusal: ok, so that will be done from within the script, how are you doing that within the script ?11:19
Defusalgeirha, it is :(11:19
FudgeDefusal  are you using sudo in your script?11:19
Defusalikonia, i am starting the script with sudo11:20
Defusalnot starting sudo from the script11:20
ikoniaDefusal: ok - that's just running the script as root, that's not spawning any processes, so how are you spawning processes from within the script11:20
Defusalikonia, no11:20
livtyler[Si]: I just have pam session messages, no authorized_keys concerned lines11:20
ikoniaDefusal: can we see the script ? is that acceptable ?11:20
mozilla92please advise me audio player which good works with internet radio!11:20
rileypDefusal:  why not make root the owner of the script and let the normal user run it11:21
Ben64livtyler: you have the public key in ~/.ssh/ on the client, and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server?11:21
Fudgebazhang  ideas>11:21
[Si]livtyler just to cover the basics, you created the .ssh/authorized_keys file is on the server and it has your id_pub key in it?11:21
rileypthen it wil have root permissions11:21
SuRockHello, world!11:22
DrewMigHello SuRock11:22
Defusalikonia, its a chain of scripts, some of which the command is built up very dynamically11:22
livtylerBen64: [Si] : yes, I'm ssh'ing to localhost11:22
shenrahello SuRock11:22
Defusalikonia, i will explain better in a second11:22
mozilla92hey11:22
ikoniaDefusal: so that's probably why it's not working, it's probably calling a script "not" as root11:22
ikoniaDefusal: (at a basic high level)11:22
bazhangFudge, why not start up in recovery mode and fix the video issues first11:22
Fudgesi rileyp  bazhang  basically how to kill zombie processes11:22
Defusalrileyp, because the whole point of the script is to run stuff as root and as other users.11:23
Fudgebazhang  i dont want to restart, thats all11:23
[Si]livtyler can you try ssh -v servername pastebin that :)11:23
Defusalikonia: my application spawns the script /home/admin/script/sudo.rb either passing a command to it, or: -i -u $username "$command"11:24
Defusalthat script than spawns the actual command as root or as the user11:24
ikoniaDefusal: ok - so is that secondary script being called with sudo ?11:24
ikoniaDefusal: if not, you'll need to call that command via sudo11:24
Defusalikonia, the sudo.rb script is using sudo11:24
Ben64seems like a security problem11:24
ikoniaBen64: it seems like a massive problem11:25
DefusalBen64, give me a better solution to do exactly this, or don't complain11:25
bazhangFudge, some special reason not to log out and then log in again?11:25
Ben64if you want to let normal users have root power, go right ahead11:25
ikoniaDefusal: I'd suggest first of all, running through each script with/without sudo to understand/confirm that each script works as expected in it's own11:25
ikoniaDefusal: then build up to your end solution11:25
Defusalthe best i can do from what i know is put the script somewhere that isnt writable and limit it to only running certain things11:25
jribDefusal: I suggest you solve a simpler problem first: create a sudo password exception for a ruby script that just creates a file only root can create11:25
Defusaland then make the exception in sudoers for that script11:25
Defusali don't know of any better way to do this11:26
ikoniaDefusal: what is your end goal ?11:26
ikoniaDefusal: as in what do you want to be able to do11:26
Defusalikonia, can the script in sudoers call sudo, or does sudo need to be called passing that script?11:26
jribhonestly, it just sounds like you are just doing what sudo already does11:26
ikoniayou can script sudo sure11:26
ikoniaDefusal: what's the end goal though, as in "joe reset peoples passwords"11:27
livtyler[Si]: http://pastebin.com/7KcqQzX511:27
Defusalikonia, creating/changing/deleting users and running processes as those users11:27
Defusalpossibly other things i have not yet thought of in future11:27
Defusalbut this is what i require now11:27
ikoniaDefusal: ok, so why not just give that user sudo permission to the correct commands11:27
ikoniaDefusal: eg: sudo useradd11:27
ikoniaDefusal: or sudo adduser11:28
ikoniaDefusal: why script scripts, calling scripts11:28
ikoniaDefusal: sudo adduser james11:28
Defusalikonia, while that would work for useradd11:28
monohedronikonia, that sounds like user administration11:28
ikoniadone11:28
[Si]livtyler can you also give a pastbin of tail -100 /var/log/auth.log11:28
ikoniamonohedron: it is11:28
Defusalit would not work for dynamic commands11:28
monohedronso Defusal wouldn't want users doing it11:28
ikoniaDefusal: can you give me an example of one ?11:28
jribDefusal: like what?11:28
Defusalthat script actually calls an inline script for running as other users11:28
geirhaI'd go the route Defusal is going11:28
Defusaldue to a complex workaround to do with signal detaching11:28
ikoniaDefusal: sudo -c joe ls -la11:28
Defusalit is a complicated issue.11:28
ikoniaDefusal: that will run ls -la as joe11:28
Fudgebazhang  i cant use the box, im sshd in11:29
geirhas/-c/-u/11:29
Fudgereboot the thing11:29
ikoniaDefusal: if you insist on doing what you are doing - go through each script as a standalone unit and verify they work as expected11:29
ikoniaDefusal: then concentrate on the wrapper11:29
livtyler[Si]: http://pastebin.com/AydezCB811:29
Defusalsigh11:29
Defusalall this is just wasting my time11:29
ikoniaDefusal: ?11:29
ikoniaDefusal: then quit11:30
ikoniaDefusal: you're getting solid help11:30
Defusali came here with a simple question11:30
Defusaland still need a solution11:30
ikoniaDefusal: ok, what is the simple question11:30
Defusal:|11:30
FudgeDefusal  maybe you should leave it for a whiel and think it over11:30
ikoniaDefusal: give me the simple question you want an answer to11:30
WanderingEnderWhat's Defusal's simple question again?11:30
Defusalikonia, calling that sudo.rb script does not work11:30
Defusalit asks for a password11:30
ikoniaDefusal: that is not a simple question11:30
Defusalwhich means sudoers is not working11:30
ikoniaDefusal: that is your mess of scripts calling scripts11:30
Defusalffs11:31
Ben64a short question does not equal a simple one11:31
ikoniaDefusal: so that's why people are asking questions to understeand11:31
rileypdefusal teach user that will peforms the task how to use sudo in a terminal.......................... done11:31
Fudgedeuterium  can i just ask, when you sudo yourself, do you get asked for a password still?11:31
[Si]livtyler one last one pastebin of ls -la ~/.ssh on the server11:31
Fudgeoops tabcomp :p11:31
Ben64[Si]: server is localhost :)11:31
WanderingEnderThat was just a kick, and not a kickban, right?11:32
Fudge:( up 1 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.40,11:32
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livtyler[Si]: http://pastebin.com/mMRQJwPz11:33
[Si]Ben64 :)11:33
rileypDefusal has gone to commit himself....11:33
[Si]livtyler chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys11:33
WanderingEnderHeh. I guess that answers my question.11:33
cryptotheslowbomb defusal is always a risky business.11:33
sacarlsonDefusal: sudoers can also be setup for groups of users to have password less access to groups of sudo needed commands, if needed maybe some examples http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/sample.sudoers11:33
Fudgewhy not jsut NOPASSWD11:34
aikqq11:34
aikqw11:34
aike11:34
aikwq11:34
aike11:34
FloodBot1aik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:34
aikwq11:34
FudgeloL11:34
[Si]he's gone people :)11:34
Ben64[Si]: my authorized_keys is 644 and works fine... i'm thinking either the key isn't in there, or sshd doesn't know about it11:34
rileyphe was kicked11:34
WanderingEnderAnd banned.11:35
aikCW GAME STEAM ON EAC ON SERVER OFF11:35
WanderingEnderBen64: Your sshd isn't complaining that the world can read your authorized_keys file?11:35
Ben64nope?11:35
Ben64its in ~/.ssh/ though, where only I can read it11:36
livtyler[Si]: http://pastebin.com/A87F5Umb11:36
WanderingEnderWeird, I've only ever seen sshd flip out at any setting other than 600.11:36
WanderingEnderIs your .ssh set to 600?11:36
Ben64drwx------   3 ben64 ben64      4096 2012-03-22 04:21 .ssh11:37
Fudge:p ltr guys11:42
airplanesimenAnyone here good at PEAP network (with wpa-psk2 enterprise security) ??11:43
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airplanesimenneed help11:43
shenrahello11:43
bazhangairplanesimen, then ask a question11:43
airplanesimenhi11:43
airplanesimenokay11:43
bazhang!wifi | airplanesimen have a read first11:43
ubottuairplanesimen have a read first: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:43
airplanesimenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11784659#post11784659  - shortest possible, check here11:44
airplanesimenthanks!11:44
airplanesimenNothing at that link is for my issue, sorry :/11:45
WanderingEnderUm, which is easier?11:46
[Si]livtyler does this return anything: cd ~/.ssh l grep `cat id_rsa.pub | cut -f2 -d" "` authorized_keys11:46
WanderingEnderConverting ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server or just reformatting and installing Ubuntu Minimal with server packages?11:46
[Si]livtyler sorry that should be : cd ~/.ssh ; grep `cat id_rsa.pub | cut -f2 -d" "` authorized_keys11:47
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airplanesimenMy wifi refuses to connect to my PEAP protected network at school (enterprise wpa-psk2). What should i do?11:48
livtyler[Si]: blank, nothing11:48
shenrais there an option to have a login screen that i can click my picture and type a password?11:48
shenraor something similar?11:48
[Si]livtyler in ~/.ssh run cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys11:48
airplanesimenwhat linux do you have?11:49
[Si]then try again.11:49
shenraubuntu 11.1011:49
murraycHas something changed about locales in precise. In Oneiric, it was enough to set LANG (and LANGUAGE too) to make an app behave as per that locale. Now I notice that I have to set LC_TIME to really get the correct date formatting for en_GB.11:49
airplanesimenokay, and you are inside at your desktop? if so, click on your name at the menubar, then user-accounts or something like that11:49
sacarlsonairplanesimen: seems to be supported in wpa-supplicant that is supported in ubuntu https://vtluug.org/wiki/PEAP-MSCHAP11:50
chentongi can SAY chinese11:50
airplanesimenhmm, okay, thanks! :D11:50
bazhangmurrayc, #ubuntu+1 for precise11:50
livtyler[Si]: OMFG, you ARE a genius! , thank you11:50
bazhangchentong, in #ubuntu-cn11:50
murraycbazhang: OK. Thanks.11:50
chentongen11:50
[Si]livtyler sorry should have checked the basics first :) that command added your public key to the authorized file.11:51
[Si]Ben64 you were indeed correct ;)11:52
Dudirshenra: you could try gdm11:52
chentongi need learn english11:52
airplanesimenOkay, thanks for help, but when i have entered that info in the file, and it still dont want to connect to the network, can i come back here?11:52
Ben64[Si]: :D11:52
sacarlsonairplanesimen: sure why not11:52
airplanesimenokay, thanks sacarlson11:53
pvh_sahey there, i'm using ubuntu 11.10 as a iscsi initiator, but it doesn't start the iscsi session at boot, even though the target is set o node.startup = automatic - any ideas?11:54
livtyler[Si]: Ben64: thank you very much guys, good bye11:55
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shwaiilhi11:55
shwaiilQ: How to create ALIAS in ubuntu ? I go to "home" but can't find .profile so, the tutorials wont work11:56
shwaiilAny tip ?11:56
Dr_willisshwaiil,  .bashrc or .bash_profile can be used.11:56
shwaiilDr_willis: tks i'll try :911:56
Dr_willisshwaiil, I think the use of .profile may be a bit outdated.11:57
shwaiilYeah I see11:57
seoaquacould anyone get the number of Y axis? http://index.baidu.com/main/word.php?word=abc11:57
Dr_willistheres alias's in some of those files allready. or make a custome alias file (mentioned in the comments of those 2 files)11:57
shwaiilDr_willis: touch .bashrc in /home ?11:58
Dr_willisshwaiil,  it should allready be there11:58
Dr_willisand its /home/yourusername11:58
Madzia2on2 off11:58
shwaiilIt's not working for me :X11:58
Madzia2/2 off11:58
Madzia2/2 off11:58
FloodBot1Madzia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:58
KlejI cant boot my Ubuntu from USB !11:59
KlejEverything is black.11:59
Dr_willisKlej,  so what does it do exatly. and how did you make the usb.11:59
shwaiilDr_willis: its not there :T11:59
KlejI made usb with Unetbootin.11:59
Dr_willisshwaiil,  you got somthing goofy going on then. ever user should have one by default i belive.11:59
Dr_willis!nomodeset | Klej11:59
ubottuKlej: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:59
shwaiilDr_willis: I'm on a VPS11:59
Dr_willisshwaiil,  you are on your own then. sounds like they are doing weird stuff.12:00
KlejI'm using laptop12:00
shwaiilDr_willis: found it in root12:00
shwaiilfound it here /root/.bashrc :T12:00
DudirKlej: Probably a silly question, but did u change the bios to boot from usb?12:01
KlejYeah12:01
Klej1st boot12:01
Dr_willisshwaiil,  if you are logging in diretly as root.. that would make sence.. but thats a scary vps that forces you to use root all the time.12:01
WanderingEnderDid you give it a minute or two to let the USB ISO load?12:01
KlejYeah....5mins12:01
DudirKlej: just making sure :p12:01
WanderingEnderDr_willis, some VPS providers just give you root and expect you to make your own users.12:01
Klej:)12:01
Dr_willisKlej,  try using the nomodeset option the bot mentioned.12:01
WanderingEnderThen, you know, stop using root.12:01
Dr_willisWanderingEnder,  makes me wonder how much 'support' this channel should give to vps's12:01
KlejDr_willis how to use that ?12:02
WanderingEnderDr_willis, I'd say it depends on the VPS provider. Even good ones like Linode start out with only root, they expect you to know what you're doing.12:02
* shenra wonders what a vps is12:02
Dr_willisklaas,  the url the bot gave. shows you.12:02
Dr_willis!nomodeset | Klej12:02
sazawalubuntu downgraded some of my packages...... how to upgrade them again?12:02
Klej!nomodoset12:02
airplanesimenhi12:03
Klejit doesnt work12:03
WanderingEnder!hi | airplanesimen12:03
airplanesimeni can connect now to the network12:03
Klej!nomodoset | Klej12:03
Klej<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nomodoset12:03
WanderingEnderThought we had a thing for people who say hi, hmm.12:03
zykotick9shenra: Virtual Private Server12:03
shenraoh.12:04
airplanesimenso, anyone remember me 3 mins ago?12:04
WanderingEndershenra, you know what a VPS is now, or should I type out the explination?12:04
[Si]Klej http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 is the url you need12:04
airplanesimentalking about network?12:04
TejasHi i install postfix in newly install ubuntu 10.04 in rackspace cloud, but got error12:04
TejasErrors were encountered while processing:12:04
Tejas postfix12:04
TejasE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:04
shenrano thanks. i12:04
Dr_willis<ubottu> Klej: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:04
WanderingEndershenra, for examplke, Tejas is a VPS user, he's using Rackspace Cloud.12:04
airplanesimencarlson?12:04
ix_it's annoying, some apps are gtk2, some are gtk312:05
Klejit's ok but where i need to write this ?12:05
ix_how do I get 1 theme for all apps?12:05
ix_one12:05
airplanesimeni guess not .. lol12:05
shenraWanderingEnder: that stuff sounds cool...12:05
[Si]Klej scroll down that page to "How to enable kernel options on the livecd"12:05
ix_at least, how do I install gtk3 themes?12:06
WanderingEndershenra, its just another way to run Ubuntu. Instead of on physical hardware, run it partitioned on someone else's physical hardware. I have several VPSes at work.12:06
Kleji can't see that screen when im booting....12:06
airplanesimenokay, i have connected to a PEAP network now successfully, and i am wondering why i cant access "secure http" sites on my web-browser? it only gets blank while it is working, and nothing appears..12:07
Dr_willisthe boot menu, has  a man=keyboard option, you hit the space there. i vbelive. I thought that url showed pictures of what to do.12:07
shenraWanderingEnder:  yeah i understand, its kinda similar to what schools do to allow access to the same liscenced programs from multiple computers, ontop of all our files12:07
lifestreamIs there a web-browser that simplifies pages (kinda like printable version or mobile version, but with images)? I hate how complicated most websites look. I want to be able to set permanent background and text color without making the webpages look weird.12:07
wormCan I just startup to text mode? It is slow that every time I should get to lightdm.12:07
ikonialifestream: browsers display what is coded, sorry12:07
Dr_willislifestream,  ive seen some firefox and chrome extensions that can do some of that. often via greasemonkey scripts12:08
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airplanesimenokay, i have connected to a PEAP network now successfully, and i am wondering why i cant access "secure http" sites on my web-browser? it only gets blank while it is working, and nothing appears.. Do i need the CA certificate?12:08
Dr_willislifestream,  with how complex some sites are . it often dosent work well12:08
Dudirlifestream: http://www.readability.com/ does a decent job most of the times12:08
WanderingEnderairplanesimen, if someone knows the answer to your problem, they'll speak up. Repeating yourself won't assist in that.12:09
lifestreamikonia: yes but some can prevent css from taking effect.  Dr_willis you mean just set background+text color, or actually strip down the website into "printtable version"? . I'm not looking for an add-on. I want by default.12:09
airplanesimenso sorry12:09
airplanesimen:/12:09
ix_lifestream,  you can use links2, start it like links2 -g to render pictures12:09
ikonialifestream: if you don't let css run you'll get malformatted sites12:09
WanderingEnderlI was going to suggest links2, but does that run in X, or just SVGAlib?12:09
ikonialifestream: browsers like firefox have plugins that will allow you to alter what is parsed though12:09
lifestreamWith div css not in effect, most pages should show like a mobile/printable version. I tthink. I'll look into links2, didn't know it could show images.12:10
Dr_willisyou could set your user agent to be that of a phone. :)12:10
lifestreamI mean, do blind people use full fledged browsers, or something that shows a basic page? I would think it would be difficult for them to use normal browser.12:11
Dr_willisgiven how complex and unuseable many sites are on my android phone... i bet blind people have a hard time12:11
WanderingEnderThey use something like JAWS that sits between the OS and them.12:12
ix_how can I change gtk3 themes?12:13
Dr_willisix_,  the gnome-tweak tool can do that i recall.12:13
Dr_willisim on 12.04 so  i use myunity also. :)12:14
KlejNothing.12:14
KlejOnly i see is Unetbootin boot screen12:14
ix_what if I don't have unity or gnome, isn't there a generic tool like gtk-chtheme?12:14
KlejAnd nowhere is option NOMODOSET12:15
sazawalubuntu downgraded some of my packages, how to upgrade them?12:15
ednolivershi guys. does anyone know the recommended approach to upgrading apache in 10.04 LTS?12:15
Dr_willisKlej,  unetbootin most likely sets up syslinux and SOME key combo to edit its boot items.  I dont use unetbootin so dont recall how it does it.12:15
Klejwhat are you using ?12:15
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Dr_willisi just dd the image file straight to the iso. :)12:15
Dr_willisor to the usb i mean.12:15
Klejusb12:15
Klejbut how12:15
Klejwhat's dd ?12:15
shwaiilDr_willis: after trying to put a "alias foo='ls -a" in .bashrc, it doesnt work. Any other tips ?12:16
WanderingEnderKlej, what OS are you making your USB stick from?12:16
MonkeyDustednolivers  fresh install with separate /home partition12:16
KlejUbuntu latest version12:16
Dr_willisshwaiil,  you do realize that will only affect new shells.. or you have to 'source .bashrc' after the change?12:16
shwaiilDr_willis: ahh thanks :D12:17
ednoliversMonkeyDust: fresh ubuntu install?12:17
Dr_willisshwaiil,  makes sence dont it. :)12:17
DudirKlej: Have you tried booting it on a different machine? (are you sure your stick works?)12:17
WanderingEnderKlej, you can use 'dd' to write the image directly to the media. Google knows how, not sure if the bot does. There's also the Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu.12:17
Klejyeah12:17
DudirKlej: I have had drives that were borked from the start12:17
MonkeyDustednolivers  yes12:18
shwaiilDr_willis: makes sence. works now!12:18
MonkeyDustednolivers  sorry, you just want apache upgrade, my mistake12:19
Dr_willispendrivelinux site has tools other then unetbootin also.12:19
shwaiilDr_willis: what's the meaning of "source" command ?12:19
KlejIs possible to move .iso on usb and to boot it ?12:20
marscherhi12:20
Dr_willisshwaiil,  'run this script in the terminal' shortcut for source command is '.'  ie:    . .bashrc     (often seen in scripts)12:20
AcidRainKlej: yes12:20
KlejOk.12:20
marscheri have a gnuplot script and i want to pass the input data file by argument12:20
Dr_willisKlej,  you have to put it on in a special way. not just copy the iso to the flash. OR use a tool from pendrivelinux to put the iso on the usb and grub212:21
marscheri tried gnuplot -e "FILE=`data.csv`" myscript.g12:21
marscherin the script i have:12:21
marschermydata = "`echo $FILE`"12:21
shwaiilDr_willis: I see :) But "." as other meanings right ? I remember using it as current dir when pushing in git, like "git add ."12:22
marscherbut mydata is empty on the plot command12:22
marscherany ideas?12:22
sazawalubuntu downgraded some of my packages, how to upgrade them?12:23
vlt!details | sazawal12:24
ubottusazawal: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:24
[Si]marscher unless you export FILE first the subshell (created by ` ` ) will not have $FILE12:25
Dr_willisshwaiil,  things always have different meanings on how they are used.12:25
sazawalI am using Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit architecture, I tried to install pulseaudio-module-jack then it asked me to downgrade some packages12:25
sazawali approved and it downgraded some pulseaudio packages12:25
sazawalnow my volume-control and spund preferences are not working12:25
Dr_willissazawal,  sounds like you may be using some extra ppa's or other repos.12:26
sazawalI cannot see pulseaudio running on my system monitor ...... though my sound iw roking12:26
sazawalyes12:26
marscher[Si], someone states here, that if you pass the value by command mode (gnuplot -e), you dont have to export it12:26
marscherhttps://groups.google.com/group/comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot/browse_thread/thread/b023aabe4ec4cd15?fwc=1&hl=de12:26
sazawalDr_willis there were about 20 of the packages downgraded12:26
sazawalfor example libpulse0:amd64 (0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1, 0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1)12:26
sazawalit was downgraded from x to y in (x,y)12:27
airplanesimenI have installed OpenSSH-server on my linux, to use a tunnel to my home (use it as proxy). And now i need to know how i can connect my SSH through the proxy at school?12:27
[Si]marscher but you are calling a subshell to do echo $FILE12:27
Dr_willissazawal,  thats what can happen when you use ppa's12:27
marscher[Si], ah i see, thx12:27
sazawalI do not know what happened .... I used aptitude for installation and it suggested my to downgrade them12:28
sazawalI did not put any external ppas12:28
WanderingEnderairplanesimen, what's your OS for your client PC?12:28
airplanesimenlinux, ubuntu12:28
airplanesimenboth12:28
WanderingEnderYou want SSH forwarding.12:29
sazawalDr_willis, still I know the packages those were downgraded and their version12:29
sazawalCan I get them back?12:29
sazawallike 0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1 for libpulse012:29
airplanesimeni know how t forward, but not to forward ssh through the proxy at school, proxify the ssh program12:29
airplanesimento use a proxy12:29
viktorcould somebody tell me which command i can use to enable the "universe" component pls?12:32
sacarlsonairplanesimen: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/12:32
sazawalDo you understand what does this mean : 0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1?12:32
[Si]sacarlson it sounds like airplanesimen's network is blocking 22 outbound, he'd need to build a https wrapper round ssh to use that.12:33
sacarlsonairplanesimen: I assume you want to run your browser from your laptop at school through a tunnel to your home to proxy to the internet12:33
airplanesimenihave, i have.. i know how to forward, but how can i make OpenSSH go through a proxy at school? :D12:34
MonkeyDustsazawal  maverick is an almost EOL version of ubuntu, a PPA is a local software source12:34
sacarlson[Si]: airplanesimen: if that's the case then they might need to change the ssh server listen address to be port 8012:34
airplanesimeni have set proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, but what about ssh12:34
sazawalMonkeyDust, yes12:34
airplanesimenhmm, smart!12:34
shenrahey i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and teh touchpad mouse stopped working.  is there anyway i can turn it back on?12:34
sazawalMonkeyDust, any clue ?12:34
airplanesimenbut what if other connections uses that port?12:35
[Si]if they are using a very dumb firewall that'd work :)12:35
MonkeyDustsazawal  about what? where does that line come from?12:35
airplanesimenno, this firewall is advanced..  but i can try, thanks!12:35
sazawal:D, Do you have any clue what should I do now12:35
viktori'm installing yum, and i'd need to enable the component "universe". how do i do that?12:35
[Si]you are better off using a propper https wrapper round ssh (http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/) as that will work through all https proxies :)12:35
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viktoris it like a repo i need to add?12:36
MonkeyDustsazawal  depends on where that line comes from, when did it show?12:36
airplanesimenbye, thanks for the help :D12:36
airplanesimeni will come back12:36
HideMeThe left/right side buttons on my Razer DeathAdder mouse don't work, any idea how to enable this?12:37
sacarlsonairplanesimen: your firewall at school will also have to pass port 443 the for https so you can also use that at your home ssh server to listen on12:37
sazawalI am using Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit architecture, I tried to install pulseaudio-module-jack then it asked me to downgrade some packages12:37
sazawali approved and it downgraded some pulseaudio packages12:37
airplanesimenyes, i thought of that :)12:37
sazawalnow my volume-control and spund preferences are not working12:37
airplanesimenbye12:37
sazawalI have the details of what packages were downgraded and to what version12:38
MonkeyDustsazawal  ah, no, doesnt err, ring a bell, sorry12:38
sazawalok it was showing that for example libpulse was downgraded from "0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1" to "0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1"12:40
sazawalMonkeyDust, do you have an idea what does this line mean?12:40
sazawalhow to get this version back?12:40
MonkeyDustsazawal  no, i'm not familiar with it myself12:41
sazawalokay :(12:41
Sidewinder1sazawal, Have you tried posting a thread (with all of the info), in the forums?12:43
Sidewinder1I know it takes a little longer. :-(12:43
sazawalSidewinder1, not yet12:44
sazawalI thought I could get it working12:44
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MonkeyDustsazawal  instead of struggling with the error, my advice is to upgrade ubuntu, as maverick will be End Of Life in a few weeks from now12:45
sazawalMonkeyDust, yes I will try doing that12:45
sazawalbut it was working so fine12:45
gogeta_How to get QT 4.8, i use ubuntu 11.10, do i need to add any other repos?12:45
sazawalMonkeyDust, hey can you take a look here https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily/+build/286409212:45
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sazawallooks like this is what I need to install12:46
airplanesimenhere again12:46
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hiatussoo.. this ubuntu for android. Is it compatible with x86?12:48
experthi12:49
ix_I just don't understand how to install a gtk3 theme12:49
ix_and there are no instrunctions12:49
gogeta_expert: Hi, how to get QT4.8, should i add any repo?12:50
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popeyhiatus: there's been no releases yet12:51
experthey anyone can teach me to have pxe network boot as well as windows installation12:51
Dr_willisix_,  extract to your .themes or was it .themes directory i belive12:52
hiatuspopey: no release of what?12:52
popeyhiatus: ubuntu for android, you just asked about it12:52
hiatusah12:53
HideMebest way to edit xorg.conf in ubuntu?12:53
hiatusI thought there was... well... wtf!12:53
ix_Dr_willis, I've extracted it and I've put it in the usr/share/themes12:53
popeyhiatus: not yet12:54
zykotick9HideMe: do you have an xorg.conf currently?12:55
hiatuspopey: still, closed development? Thats pretty unusual. I was going to install android on my thinkpad and then see if I could get ubuntu for android to run on top of it12:55
hiatusit would have been awesome... now I must wait for such awesomeness!12:55
popeyits targetting phones, not laptops12:55
hiatuswhat do I care who canonical is targeting?12:56
popeyhiatus: ok, have a nice day.12:56
hiatusO.o12:57
melvincvhi all. how do I apply this to wine 1.4 - http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=3005212:59
ikoniamelvincv: it's a patch you'd need to recompile wine12:59
KlejI've installed ubuntu on my laptop13:00
Klejand13:00
Klejhow can i boot him cause he was installed include on local disc c: where is also windows 713:01
traubisodahow can i configure apache perl cgi to work correctly? now perl scripts are opened as text in browser13:01
melvincvikonia, how do I apply the patch into the source?13:01
Klejhe said me to remowe usb and hit enter13:01
MonkeyDustKlej  wubi?13:01
trkemistHey all13:01
Klejwhen he restart it boots windows 713:01
trkemistHow can I / should I report a successful new machine install13:01
KlejMonkeyDust i've usedd unetbootin13:01
ikoniamelvincv: it's quite a complex process13:01
Klejand live cd boot menu13:01
ikoniamelvincv: who told you, you need that patch ?13:01
trkemistI am happily sitting here working on my new Dell Ultrabook XPS13 running Ubuntu 11.10 with 99% of everything working out the gate... very cool.13:02
MonkeyDustKlej  and do you get a grub menu?13:02
Klejyeah13:02
Klejsuccessfully istalled13:02
hateballKlej: If you hold the shift key while the computer boots you will get the grub menu, can you see Ubuntu there?13:02
Kleji will try13:02
melvincvikonia, my own research. I'm trying to get Stronghold Kingdoms game working on Ubuntu.13:02
trkemistThe mousepad thing... not so much.. I can't figure this out..13:03
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melvincvikonia, I have this issue: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2393413:03
ubottubugs.winehq.org bug 23934 in -unknown "Stronghold Kingdoms: loops after update" [Normal,New: ]13:03
viktorhow do i install the universe repo using wget?13:04
experthey anyone can teach me to have pxe network boot as well as windows installation13:05
MonkeyDustviktor  it's not something to install, it's something to make available or activate13:05
shwaiilQ: To move a file from one directory to other, or better to copy, what's the command ? thanks13:06
viktorMonkeyDust, euhm yeah, of course. i just need to add it to the sources list (i think), but i can't copy-paste right now, and i know it's doable with wget13:06
Piciviktor: Can I ask why you're trying to install yum?13:06
viktorbut forgot how exactly13:07
__nu11___d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US13:07
__nu11___i have added that line into my preseed file but it keeps asking me to choose a language :S13:07
KlejWhen i hold shift nothing to do.13:07
KlejIt boot windows 713:07
__nu11___shwaiil: mv <source> <destination>13:07
viktorPici, i'm trying to install guest additions on a virtual system, and some tutorial gave that as a command13:07
shwaiil__nu11___: tks for looking, to copy use "cp dir dest" ?13:08
viktorPici https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=1567913:08
__nu11___shwaiil: yes :)13:08
__nu11___shwaiil: and if it's a directory use cp -r13:08
MonkeyDustviktor  is this link useful? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/addrepo-easiest-way-to-add-apt-repositories.html13:08
KlejSomeone tell me... ?13:08
shwaiil__nu11___:  recursive right ? thanks13:08
KlejHow to boot linux13:08
Piciviktor: That part of the tutorial is for people with Fedora.13:09
KlejInstalled on local disc c:13:09
MonkeyDustviktor  forget that link I showed, it's something else13:09
shwaiil__nu11___:  let's say I have DirectoryB and I want to move to DirectoryA. I dont want to keep DirectoryB when moving, but only the nested files. What should I do ?13:10
viktorPici, right, thus the dangers of not attentivly reading what you're doing...13:10
shwaiil__nu11___:  I ment not perserving the directory name13:10
KlejHellooooooooooo13:10
Piciviktor: If you still want to enable universe, typically you only need to uncomment a line in /etc/apt/sources.list  or  add a line, its really not enough text to need to copy/paste too.13:10
__nu11___mv -r DirA/* DirA13:11
MonkeyDustKlej  what happens when you choose ubuntu in the grub menu13:11
__nu11___shwaiil: ^13:11
melvincvKlej, If you installed in Windows, you should see a menu to choose between Windows 7 and Ubuntu when you turn on your computer.13:11
shwaiil__nu11___:  hmm13:11
KlejI dont have it.13:11
KlejAnd i cant choose grub menu without usb stick13:12
MonkeyDustKlej  don't have what?13:12
viktorPici, you're right, i should just typ it, it's not in the list though, dtrying to run a different system virtually on ubuntu, but that's not really relevant13:12
shwaiil__nu11___:  for copy cp -r DirA/* DirB ?13:12
__nu11___shwaiil: yes13:12
shwaiil__nu11___: thanks a lot13:12
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KlejI dont know whats the problem13:13
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KlejHe said me that installation was successfull13:13
__nu11___but lemme but this all together you want to move dirb/file1...file10 to dira and the final result is dira/file1....file10 right?13:13
KlejBut linux nowhere i can see13:13
__nu11___Klej: you installed ubuntu using what way?cd netwrok wubi or what?13:14
melvincvKlej, what screen are you in now?13:14
Klejwindows 713:14
Lionthinkerhi there13:14
LionthinkerI have a problem with Libre Office Impress13:14
LionthinkerCan anyone help13:14
KlejI have a file called wubi on my flash13:15
vlt!enter | Lionthinker13:15
ubottuLionthinker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!13:15
KlejI've been modified isolinux to syslinux13:15
HideMezykotick9,  No13:15
Lionthinkerapologies, so when I use animations in impress it crashes, can anyone help?13:15
__nu11___Lionthinker: tried to upgrade it?13:15
__nu11___Klej: private please :)13:16
Lionthinkerhow do I do that?13:16
__nu11___Lionthinker: system---->admin---->synaptic----> search for impress and mark for upgrade13:16
Dr_willisKlej,  a wubi install would use the windows boot menu/loader. , a normal install would use a grub menu befor windows even starts up.13:16
melvincvFor me, the Windows bootloader displays a menu with Ubuntu as a choice, whenn I select that it goes to Grub4DOS, then Ubuntu.13:17
Dr_willisKlej,  so you booted a flash driev and selected 'install' or what exactly?13:17
KlejDr_willis yes13:17
Klejexactly that.13:17
Dr_willisexactly what?13:17
Klejin my properties i dont have to seen mylti OS ..just see windows 713:18
dapehello, i just updated perl, how do i run something like perl-updater --modules to make sure everything is cool?13:18
Lionthinkernull_ thank will try that13:18
melvincvKlej, properties? When you turn on your computer, observe what happens. You should get to choose between Windows 7 and Ubuntu.13:20
KlejNo.13:20
Klejit starts only windows 713:20
monohedroncan someone point me to a tut on how to modify the login screen on 11.0413:20
Lionthinker-Null- could you explain that in baby steps, are those steps meant to be in the terminal? in which case could you explain the code13:20
Kleji will try with wubi13:20
Dr_willismonohedron,  theres some guides on the webupd8 blog site and askubuntu on tweaking lightdm and gdm.13:21
Dr_willisKlej,  i suggest you dont even touch wubi.13:21
MonkeyDustKlej  wubi is not a real installation13:21
monohedronDr_willis, thanks I'll have a read13:21
Dr_willisKlej,  you are able to boot the usb to get to a live desktop?13:21
Klejyeah...13:21
Dr_willisKlej,  id try using the fixboot tool and have it reinstall grub.13:21
toozler;frm13:21
Dr_willis!fixboot13:21
Dr_willis!grub13:22
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)13:22
Dr_willisHope that fixboot tool gets included by defaunt on the 12.04 cd :)13:22
Klejand what to do with fixboot13:22
Dr_willis'boot-repair' is its offial name..13:23
Dr_willisinstall boot-repair.. run it..13:23
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair13:23
Klejinstall on usb ?13:23
Dr_willisboot the usb.. install the program.13:23
Dr_willisit will install to ram13:23
Klejok13:23
Klejmaybe it's not the problem.....13:24
ubuntu_loverhi13:25
LionthinkerLibre Impress help: how do I do this?     system---->admin---->synaptic----> search for impress and mark for upgrade13:26
Dr_willisLionthinker,  synaptic is not installed on ubuntu by default. use whatever package manager tool you want.13:26
Dr_willis'search with the tool for impress' install it...13:26
ubuntu_loveri want to upload a folder to my ftp server . i am using filezilla . i am noob and i dont know what should we give in the option remote site.pls help13:26
Dr_willisubuntu_lover,  the ip or hostname of your ftp server.13:27
LionthinkerDr Willis - so Impress crashes and I don't know how to check for updates13:27
Dr_willisLionthinker,  if theres updates the update-manager should find and install them.13:27
ubuntu_loveri gave it ie ftp.navriti.com13:27
_MarcusWhat is xserver-xorg-video-openchrome? I did updates with apt-get and it installed that13:27
ubuntu_loverbut that doesnt work13:27
Dr_willis'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  Lionthinker  for the terminal13:27
_MarcusThis is Ubuntu Server, so no GUI13:27
LionthinkerDr Willis - so then I'm up to date, but how do I solve this crash that doesn't even have a crash report13:28
_MarcusLionthinker: What crashed?13:28
Dr_willisLionthinker,  run it from terminal. look for error messages, check bug reports site. and perhaps askubuntu.com13:28
LionthinkerDr Willis_I'll that,13:28
Dr_willis!tab | Lionthinker13:29
ubottuLionthinker: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.13:29
LionthinkerMarcus_impress crashed when attempting different animations13:29
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_MarcusOh13:29
Dr_willistheres a libreoffice channel i imagine also.13:30
LionthinkerDr_willis, its under document foundation but rather empty, came here out of desperation13:30
Dr_willisI use abiword. :)13:31
_MarcusI don't have x11, would it be okay to uninstall the x11 packages on my system?13:31
Lionthinkerubottu, thanks for the tip, its the only way I'm learning13:31
ubottuLionthinker: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:31
Dr_willis_Marcus,  if you dont need them. but i often ssh to my servers and run X apps13:31
Dr_willisor use vnc.13:32
Lionthinkerubottu, whats a bot13:32
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:32
jribLionthinker: robot, machine, program13:32
Lionthinker:-D13:32
_MarcusLionthinker: He isn't a person, he is an IRC bot. And IRC bot is a program that responds to commands that people active. Type "!ubottu" for more information about him13:32
airplanesimenubottu haha :D13:33
zykotick9_Marcus: she, ubottu is a women13:33
zykotick9!gender13:33
ubottuyes, I can confirm I am a female bot :)13:33
Dr_willisa 'Fembot' :P13:33
_MarcusDr_willis: I am on Ubuntu Server, so I don't use any GUI at all. I tried installing one before, but removed it afterwards, so there is still x11 packages still here. I don't know if anything is using it though.13:33
Dr_willis_Marcus,  go for it then.13:34
jrib_Marcus: remove it, and if you find out later that you need it, put it back?13:34
Dr_willisTheres even a X11 server in the works for android - remote X sessions on my tablet :)13:34
Dr_willisand of course.. someday ubuntu in your pocket.13:35
traubisodahow can i manage a 7.1 sound card on ubuntu 12.04?13:35
_flamen_una pregunta alguien entiende español13:35
zykotick9traubisoda: reask in #ubuntu+113:36
traubisodaokay, thx13:36
Lionthinker"!ubottu"13:37
_Marcus!es | _flamen_13:37
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_MarcusLionthinker: No quotes13:37
Pici!msgthebot13:37
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".13:37
wdonkeyhi, i<ve recently undertook some newbish fixing of my ubuntu system and the whole thing wont boot anymore. i did backp recently but i forgot about my important tomboy notes, how can i recover these from a live CD ?13:40
_MarcusWhen I used apt-get, this happened: http://pastebin.com/GSeJbsU113:41
Dr_williswdonkey,  you dident use the tomboy feature to save them to your ubuntuone account?13:41
_MarcusHow do I use apt-get again?13:41
jrib_Marcus: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?13:41
wdonkeyno sir13:41
_flamen_eee13:42
_flamen_de nuevo13:42
_flamen_que es lo que tengo que poner13:42
_flamen_si me leeis13:42
Dr_willisonly one package manager can be working at a time13:42
_flamen_alguno13:42
FloodBot1_flamen_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:42
Wouter__Marcus, from an ssh terminal user : sudo apt-get install PACKAGE13:42
_flamen_para entrar13:42
_flamen_en salas españolas13:42
_Marcus!es | _flamen_13:42
ubottu_flamen_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.13:42
zykotick9_Marcus: do you have an Ubuntu Software Center, or update running?  only one apt can run at a time.13:42
wdonkeyDr_willis: i still have access to my filesystem on the livecd im on but i cant find the correct path to my beloved notes13:42
_Marcuszykotick9: I was in the middle of an apt-get, but it was trying to remove PHPMyAdmin, and I didn't want that, so I exited out of SSH terminal.13:43
Wouter_If you are getting ´unable to lock the administration directory´ when using apt-get you are probably not root. use sudo before the apt-get.13:43
_MarcusWouter_: My paste showed me using root13:43
Wouter_ah13:43
Dr_williswdonkey,  i always save mine to the ubuntuone account so i can get to them from anywhere. Not sure what the path is to a local copy of them.13:43
Wouter_then it might be still running13:44
wdonkeyalright13:44
wdonkeyi<ll try to recover my old system then, thanks!13:44
zykotick9wdonkey: check ~/.local/share/tomboy13:44
zykotick9!aptlock | _Marcus13:45
ubottu_Marcus: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:45
_MarcusI already restarted the server13:46
_MarcusBut I'll keep that written down for futher use13:46
airplanesimendoes it matter what certificate i use on a wpa-enterprise secured network with maschapv2 and version0 - network?13:48
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binarykinghello13:53
binarykingis there any word-processing tool for ubuntu which removes the repetitions of words13:54
binarykinglike i have google written 50 times so it keeps 1 and deletes the rest (49)13:54
Dr_willisbinaryking,  in what kind of file?13:55
binarykinga txt one.13:55
Dr_willisgrep/sed/awk binaryking  has ways13:55
prod_Hi all im looking to make a mail server. It doesnt need to do much. For now I just need it to have 1 email address and I only need to recieve mail with it for now.  Can anyone advise me of a good tutorial?13:55
HideMebest way to edit x confing in ubuntu?13:55
nlkoprod_: apt-get install exim13:56
binarykingDr_willis: they all r diff. soft.?13:56
Dr_willisHideMe,  the xorg.conf file is a text file. so use a text editor. ;)13:56
urbovis there a command line utitli13:56
silv3r_m00nis there some kind of terminal command for cups which will search for remote printer ?13:56
eikaiewahihello13:56
Dr_willisbinaryking,  differnt tools that work for manaplating text files13:56
urbovutility for configure a UMTS stick13:56
HideMeDr_willis,   But I do not have a xorg.conf in /etc/X1113:56
prod_nlko: thanx13:56
binarykingDr_willis: ok. thanks :)13:56
Dr_willisHideMe,  so make one?13:56
eikaiewais there an official I need help channel?13:56
nlkoprod_: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/exim4.html13:57
Piciprod_: The Ubuntu Server Guide is very helpful for setting up a basic mail server.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/13:57
Dr_willissilv3r_m00n,  i think theres a lot of cups cli tools. the cups website has docs detailing them ive rarely needed them13:57
urbovis there a command-line utility to configure an USB UMTS stick13:57
binarykingDr13:57
binarykingDr_willis: grep and sed is already installed on my UbPC13:58
binarykinghow do i execute them?13:58
eikaiewaI changed the graphics settings on my netbook, and not it will not boot13:58
eikaiewaany advice on where to start?13:58
Dr_willisbinaryking,  you will have to read up on their ussage. and how regular expressions work. check the web for 'sed examples'  there should be some examples on removeing repeated text13:59
wdonkeyzykotick9: couldnt find anything there, only odd files13:59
monohedroneikaiewa, do you get to see the grub window?14:00
eikaiewaback now14:00
eikaiewaI see nothing14:01
eikaiewaJust the fringe of the backlight14:01
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eikaiewaWhen I hit the power button,  Ubuntu 10.4 shows up and it shuts down though14:02
wdonkeyif i retrofit my system to an older version of ubuntu with a live CD, will i have the option of keeping my preference/documents ?14:02
monohedroneikaiewa, press ESC between poweron and the ubuntu window14:03
eikaiewadoes nothing.  I see the bios flash, then nada. Not even a blip in the corner14:04
cryptotheslywdonkey: certainly not automatically. There are ways to do it if you home partition is separate. But really - best off backing everything up before you start. Then once installed copy back in whatever preference folders and files you  like.14:04
eikaiewaI was following this advice:14:05
meerkatsDamn Rhythmbox erased half of my mp4 files, but they are still in the trash. All this data is stored in usb0, but when I select all and restore it says it cannot find usb0, even when its plugged in14:05
eikaiewahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122934514:05
eikaiewamy graphics looked awesome for the first time since the install14:05
eikaiewareboot and then nothing14:05
c0rnelall14:05
c0rnelhello > all :)14:05
wdonkeycryptothesly: can i just copy the whole /home folder and copy it back into my new installation ^14:06
binarykingDr_willis: that isn't helping14:06
c0rnelhow can i upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04?14:06
r0hitmeerkats, move em off from ~/.local/trash folder14:06
binarykingDr_willis: any text editor or word processing.14:06
meerkatsError while moving "\media\usb0\.Trash-1000...\4%20-%20Don't%20Cry.mp3"14:06
compdoceikaiewa, time to try the live boot cd14:07
binarykinghey guys i want some help14:07
eikaiewais there something like a n ubuntu safe mode?14:07
eikaiewai dont even own a cd player14:07
binarykingis there any text editor which helps to delete text re-occurences?14:07
cryptotheslywdonkey: You can. Make sure you get all the hidden ones that start with a dot as well. Probably not advisable to copy the whole home dir back - rather selectively copy back the relevant application folders14:07
binarykinglike if i have nafees 4 times, it keeps the 1st 1, and deletes the other 314:08
meerkatsanother thing: there are 2000 files in the trash: for each one it says the same message: I have been clicking on "ok" for like 5 minutes, isnt there a faster way? ctrl-c doesnt seem to wrok14:08
meerkatsto cancel the operation14:08
eikaiewais there a way to revert my ubuntu install_14:08
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silv3r_m00ncups is not detecting a printer over the LAN , it detects sometime and sometimes doesn't14:10
monohedroneikaiewa, when booting press ESC. That should take you not the GRUB menu. There you can boot in safe mode.14:10
silv3r_m00nhow to fix14:10
eikaiewais there a setting with empathy that I am missing, or are the messages just slow today?14:10
monohedroneikaiewa, when booting press ESC. That should take you to the GRUB menu. There you can boot in safe mode.14:11
silv3r_m00nremote_machine:631 works fine though14:11
eikaiewaWhen I press esc, my computer angerly beeps at me.  I tried 6 combinations (pressing, holding down, ...~  Nothing gets me to grub14:11
wdonkeyzykotick9: it finaly worked, thanks14:11
eikaiewa(I did google first, and got nowhere there)14:12
monohedroneikaiewa, do you remember what you did to your computer ?14:12
monohedroneikaiewa, if so you could use a live usb stick. mount your partition and change it back14:13
Oerusually it is left shift @ boot to enter grub-menu14:14
Oersome say right shift works also.14:14
monohedroni seem to rememeber esc for some reason14:15
wisniahi all , anyone knows how to change font in gnome?14:16
monohedronwisnia, that's like asking can someone tell to hello in asian14:17
meerkatsr0hit, that only shows the files erased from my hard drive, not from my HDD, external one, usb014:17
monohedronwisnia, right click your dektop go to back ground. then you should have a tab with fonts14:17
shaneocan someone please help me im getting a really weird error when running add-apy --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/14:18
shaneo*add-apt14:18
meerkatsok, found the damed files inside usb014:18
shaneoand its not gpg key error or anything like that it pertains to ssl CA certs14:18
meerkats.trash-1000 inside usbo has all the files I need14:18
meerkatshow do I restore em?14:19
shaneomeerkats, copy from .trash to root of flash14:19
shaneoor w/e14:20
meerkatsshaneo, for noobs please: create a folder named root and move everyhting there?14:20
shaneono just move the files wherever you want them to be14:20
ikoniameerkats: the root of the usb is the top level directory of the usb drive14:20
ikonials14:20
ikoniaoops14:20
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meerkatsshaneo, we are talking about 4000 files, I must find an automated way to restore all to their original position14:22
meerkatslocation14:22
shaneomeerkats, cp * /put/dir/here/14:22
r0hitmeerkats, comfy with terminal?14:22
kingdomfire!lista14:23
ubottukingdomfire: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:23
shaneoor mv * /put/dir/here14:23
r0hitmeerkats, mount your external drive in /media/usb0 manually and give it a shot14:23
kingdomfire!addon14:23
shaneomeerkats, you want me to jot ya down a quick script for transferring files?14:24
meerkatsbut the 4000 mp4 files are grouped by album and artist, so each directory contains no more thatn 12 tracks on average. 4000/12 = 333 different folders14:24
kingdomfire!game14:25
meerkatsr0hit, to mount manually first I must unmount via gparted, right?14:25
Picikingdomfire: Can we help you?14:25
r0hitmeerkats, yes14:25
kingdomfirepici yes14:25
kingdomfirehow do I for download games for pc?14:26
Picikingdomfire: This channel is for Ubuntu Linux support.  It is not a place for pirating games.14:26
shaneomeerkats, cp -r * /this/is/where/your/files/are/going14:26
kingdomfireok thanks14:26
r0hitmeerkats, also i think Trash restore failed because your probably changed the drive's label or reformatted it?14:27
meerkatsthanks shaneo , but im still trying r0hit 's way...14:27
kingdomfireand which is channel?14:27
shaneoalright then14:27
_Marcuskingdomfire: Freenode isn't a place for piracy either.14:27
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meerkatsi would never reformat that shit14:27
meerkatsnot in the present state of things14:27
johnmkingdomfire: www.steam.com, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/ubuntu-software-centre - start paying for what you want to own.14:27
r0hitshaneo, i dont think trash folder maintains heirarchy. dumps everything in one folder and saves heirarchy metadata elsewhere14:27
binarykingis there any text editor which helps to delete text re-occurences?14:27
shaneoall files and folders should be in /.trash-1000/files/14:28
meerkatsshaneo, yes they are14:28
meerkatsshaneo, usb0/.trash-1000/files14:29
shaneoanyway can someone please help me with this error i can add any repos cause im getting ssl ca errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/14:29
shaneo*cant14:29
r0hitmeerkats, 4000 files are showing up in /.trash-1000/files or are they organized?14:29
shaneothey should be organized mine always are14:30
meerkatsr0hit, just the 4000 files without hierarchy or folders14:30
shaneodamn14:30
_FLamen_joer me cay14:31
_FLamen_no se14:31
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Guest76286uijhip;14:31
_FLamen_quien me a  dixo14:31
_FLamen_que no se usarlo14:31
_FLamen_tiene razon14:31
FloodBot1_FLamen_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:31
_FLamen_pero14:31
Pici!es | _FLamen_14:31
ubottu_FLamen_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.14:31
_FLamen_aun asi no me gusta14:31
shaneomeerkats, just use banshee to import the files via the media player and set options to create folders14:31
Guest76286Where am I ?14:31
monohedronGuest76286, your are safe14:32
shaneoGuest76286, this is IRC14:32
_MarcusGuest76286: You are in #ubuntu14:32
shaneolol14:32
Guest76286Ohhh right. I'm in school14:32
jinso many person14:32
shaneothose three replies went together pretty well14:32
monohedronyup14:33
AcidRainlol who am i14:33
Guest76286Is anyone in Macedonia ?14:33
monohedronAcidRain, not me14:33
_Marcus!ot | Guest7628614:33
ubottuGuest76286: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:33
shaneoanyone please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/14:33
AcidRainGuest76286: this is not a hookup channel14:33
jini dislike unity14:34
shaneoAOL irc chans died decades ago nobody does that n/s/a/l stuff anymore14:34
mehdianybody knows how can i run h264 ? i try this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 but ut didnt work14:34
shaneojin, why14:34
Guest76286Please help me14:35
Guest76286I'm in school14:35
Guest76286in Macedonia14:35
babblejin: I'm not ready to live in it full time yet - if you were a Gnome user, you may have a look at Xubuntu for a more gnome2-style desktop14:35
Guest76286some terroirsit just came in14:35
AbhijitGuest76286, what language you speak there in Macedonia?14:35
Guest76286please alert someone in my country14:35
Abhijit:-(14:35
Guest76286I'm just kidding14:35
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Guest76286we speak Macedonian14:35
shaneo Guest76286 thats not funny14:35
Abhijit!macedonian14:36
Guest76286is this a support chat ?14:36
crossfaderi think so14:36
_MarcusGuest76286: For Ubuntu, it is the support chat.14:36
crossfaderand i hope so14:36
Guest76286can some help me install flash player on here14:36
monohedrononly if that terrorist runs on ubuntu and has an untainted kernel14:36
shaneomehdi, sudo apt-get install x264 ffmpeg mplayer mencoder14:36
Guest76286we kindda removed it :14:36
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Guest76286and now it's not working14:37
_MarcusInstall it again then14:37
shaneoGuest76286, check the software center for flash installer14:37
Sidewinder1root > Guest6079114:37
Guest76286our computers were locked from most use14:38
Guest76286we hacked in using the terminal14:38
Guest76286and made admin accounts14:38
Sidewinder1oops, wrong factoid; sorry.14:38
Guest76286then we installed some un supportive software14:38
_MarcusGuest76286: That's not the correct terminology for "hacked" but okay.14:39
Guest76286and I think that broke the flah player14:39
Guest76286now when we try to delete that14:39
_MarcusGuest76286: You said you removed Flash player?14:39
Guest76286we can't14:39
eikaiewaso ... no grub for me.14:39
eikaiewaany other way to get my pc to do something?14:39
eikaiewahmmm14:39
Guest76286is there a way ?14:39
_MarcusGuest76286: What software did you install that you think made it stop working?14:40
Guest762861 sec ....14:40
shaneohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/ <----- help please14:40
Guest76286I think the macroedia flash plugin14:40
Guest76286broke it14:40
Guest76286because it was un supportive14:41
_MarcusGuest76286: So Flash broke Flash?14:41
Guest76286on this version14:41
meerkatsok, another approach: the HDD is labelled "Volume1", but mount point is usb0, how do I make the mount point "Volume1"?14:41
monohedronshaneo, have you tried to add another ppa?14:41
shaneoyes many14:41
bazhangshaneo, did you try to purge that ppa first?14:41
shaneosame error everytime14:41
shaneoyes14:41
shaneoits not even added theres nothing to purge14:41
Guest76286an error comes up when I try to remove it14:41
monohedronwhat was that ppa again ?14:42
Guest76286and it says I have to use synaptic package manager14:42
_MarcusGuest76286: if you don't have privileges to remove it, ask your system administrator to do it.14:42
Guest76286but I can't find it :14:42
shaneoProblem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)') confuses me the most14:42
Guest76286yeah14:42
Guest76286about that14:42
Guest76286these are school computers14:42
r0hitMeepsheep, try mounting manually via terminal14:42
monohedronshaneo, the ppa url please14:42
Guest76286and we don't know14:42
r0hitmeerkats, try mounting manually via terminal14:42
_MarcusGuest76286: Ask the school to fix it then14:43
Guest76286who manages these14:43
bazhang!enter | Guest7628614:43
ubottuGuest76286: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!14:43
_MarcusGuest76286: Ask a staff memeber14:43
mehdishaneo, after instalation should i restart PC or not? becuz it aint work14:43
shaneo ppa:kokoto-java/omgubuntu-stuff14:43
meerkatsr0hit, sudo mount /media/Volume1 ?14:43
shaneomehdi, ??14:43
monohedronlet me see whether it installs here14:44
OerGuest76286, you hacked into schoolcomputers, made admin-accounts and now complaining something goes wrong?14:44
mehdishaneo, i install those thing u said, should i restart my system or not too codecs work ?14:44
r0hitmeerkats, find the device and mention in explicitly. example: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Volume114:44
monohedronshaneo, "ublic key "Launchpad PPA for George Karavasilev" imported"14:44
shaneomehdi, shouldnt have to restart14:45
dzzozohttp://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers14:45
dzzozohttp://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers14:45
FloodBot1dzzozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:45
_Marcus!ot | dzzozo14:45
ubottudzzozo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:45
dzzozohttp://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers plz like14:45
dzzozohttp://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers plz like14:45
FloodBot1dzzozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:45
GarryFreToo funny no need o understand dialog. http://pulse.me/s/7hagG new use for iPad.14:46
Guest76286well14:46
bazhangGarryFre, dont paste that here14:46
Guest76286the hacking went well14:46
_Marcus!ot | GarryFre14:46
ubottuGarryFre: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:46
Guest76286but we are on a server14:46
Guest76286and one of my class mates14:46
Guest76286installed14:46
GarryFreOk ok ok jeez!14:46
Guest76286unsupportive software14:46
Guest76286and that broke it14:46
shaneomonohedron, yeah i get that reply form others also but no ppas will add for me get that error everytime14:46
Myrtti!enter | Guest7628614:46
ubottuGuest76286: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!14:46
bazhangGuest76286, stop using the enter key like that14:47
___jk___http://pulse.me/s/7hagG14:47
Guest76286now we can't remove it14:47
PiciGuest76286: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?14:47
shaneomehdi, also install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:47
monohedronshaneo, what does the log say ?14:47
shaneowhere do i find add-apt logs14:47
bazhang___jk___, wrong channel to paste that14:47
_MarcusGuest76286: You breaking into a system that you weren't supposed to be in and then complaining that something wont work isn't something I will help with. If you need help with something, ask the administrators at your school. If you are unsure who that is, then ask a staff member14:48
mneptokGuest76286: hacking and illegal access are frowned upon here, and you will not receive help.14:48
mehdishaneo, i already did it14:48
sskalnikhow to load a module by name?14:48
babbleshaneo: have you tried reinstalling python-software-properties?14:48
Guest76286ok then were can I find synaptic package manager ?14:49
shaneobabble, python-software-properties is already the newest version14:49
floodhey, everyone, have a question, i've setup an ubuntu 11.10 and am trying to find any syslog config files, i know they are normally located at /etc/syslog.conf but it isn't there. I know syslog is working because /var/log/syslog and authlogs are logging stuff, how can i configure the preinstalled syslog, or do i have to install another package? thx!14:49
mneptokGuest76286: you will not receive any more help here. i suggest you stop asking and /part before i ban you.14:49
_MarcusGuest76286: Did you not understand that people said they wont help you?14:49
shaneomehdi, than all codecs should be installed are you just trying to watch a movie or something14:50
oratedHi! Can anyone link me to a table which lists programs in Ubuntu alternative to Windows? (for a beginner)14:50
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babbleshaneo: I don't doubt that, but if you're getting python errors when running it, I'm curious if it's something as simple as a syntax error in the installed script14:50
mehdii try yo watch movie but it gives me error14:50
bazhang!equivalents | orated14:50
ubottuorated: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot14:50
monohedronshaneo, tail /var/log/syslog14:50
sskalnikorated:  also http://alternativeto.net/14:51
shaneomonohedron, http://paste.ubuntu.com/895172/14:51
mehdishaneo, problem solved i should have installed SMplayer14:51
meerkatsr0hit, $ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Volume-1 /media/usb0 will only load the HDD because of /media/usb0...14:51
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shaneomehdi, ah yes i forgot about that one14:52
oratedThanks bazhang sskalnik14:52
l1f3~/who mneptok14:53
* mneptok blinks14:53
mneptok_Marcus: you could just *ask* what client i am using.14:54
_Marcus:P14:54
_Marcusmneptok: That seems to be what people say a lot when I use CTCP VERSION14:55
mneptok_Marcus: maybe it's time you take the hint.14:55
_Marcus:P14:55
pizzahello14:58
ryanpriorI can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?14:58
compdocyoure making me hungry14:58
GlaceeWho should I talk to to go over all the bug I have with openstack swift running on precise?14:59
sskalniktry #ubuntu+114:59
bazhangGlacee, #ubuntu+1 for precise not here14:59
monohedronsorry shaneo no idea14:59
waxstone!precise | Glacee14:59
ubottuGlacee: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+114:59
pizzawhat version do I want to install on a netbook?15:00
shaneomonohedron, ok thanks anyway though i guess ill figure it out eventually15:00
bazhangpizza, the regular one, there is no netbook edition anymore15:00
bazhang!une | pizza15:01
ubottupizza: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.15:01
phatphoton_Hi all, I have a problem with my bluetooth autodisconnecting after auth for a mouse. I have an hcidump to help, could anybody help me on that feild?15:01
Dr_willisand we are glad its gone. :)15:01
pizza11.10 or 10.04?15:01
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bazhangpizza, the latest 11.1015:02
bhaveshI deleted my Ubuntu partition with MiniTool Partition Wizard(windows). Is there any way I can undo the changes?15:03
bhaveshI didnt format it15:03
compdocpizza, newer means better/more driver support for hardware15:03
bhaveshwindows recovery once brought back the windows partition deleted with the same tool15:03
Frazhi15:03
bazhang!undelete | bhavesh15:03
ubottubhavesh: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel15:03
Frazjust trying out wine. im running a dual boot system with win7 and ubuntu...15:04
cryptotheslybhavesh: look to a liveCD and the testdisk package. I've had success restoring partitions with that before.15:04
Frazcan i run my existing windows installation of photoshop through wine?15:04
bhaveshcryptothesly: k15:04
Frazor any app i installed on windows for that matter15:04
ryanpriorI can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?15:05
c0rnelcryptothesly, , like system rescue cd ?15:05
suduhello15:05
cryptotheslyc0rnel: which system rescue cd?15:05
c0rnelsysresccd.org15:05
auronandaceFraz: no, you install the app in wine15:06
Fraz:(15:06
cryptotheslydon't know, not used it, but if it has testdisk then it should do.15:06
oratedbazhang: Other than !commands, could you suggest me a chart/table for commonly used commands as well?15:06
auronandace!appdb | Fraz15:06
ubottuFraz: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help15:06
suduwhat u mean by whine? (^_^)15:06
compdocFraz, some programs run ok in wine, with minor problems. You might try Virtualbox instead15:07
orated!wine15:07
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:07
cryptotheslyc0rnel: clearly that won't help with your 10.10 upgraded box.15:07
suduwine????15:07
mcnesiumi want to chroot my ssh upload user to his home directory, did so like described here http://j.mp/GFHBkR so now i can login with my sftp client (cyberduck) and see the home directory as root dir, can move to subfolders and back, but neither can i upload stuff nor download15:07
c0rnelcryptothesly, sure, i was thinking at live cd + testdisk ....15:07
mcnesiumi read somewehere else that i need to set chmod 755 and chown root:root to /var/local and /var/local/upload (which is the homedir of the upload user), so i did15:07
suducan i install photo shop with the help of wine???????????????15:07
cryptotheslyc0rnel: for what?15:08
pfarrellhi! I'm trying to create a debian package for a piece of software I've written15:08
mcnesiumbefore i did that i couldnt even connect via sftp15:08
pfarrellI took a sample packaging from a similar package (it's a pure python module) and am trying to use it15:08
pfarrellbut dpkg-source just hangs!15:08
auronandacesudu: sure, check the appdb to see if it will work15:08
c0rnelcryptothesly, for bhavesh15:08
mcnesiumbut now i can see but have no rights to upload15:08
Vertsudu: Red wine might help?15:08
pfarrellI run dpkg-source -b <directory> and it just hangs there forever15:08
_Marcussudu: Photoshop should have a Mac version15:08
pfarrellany ideas how I could debug this?15:08
cryptotheslyc0rnel: ok then yes :D15:08
sudu.15:08
c0rnel:)15:08
sudu.15:08
_Marcussudu: Derp, I was thinking Mac. Linux, IDK15:09
Frazcan i access my windows file through ubuntu? i want to copy some files over15:09
_Marcussudu: Try this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/idiots-guide-installing-photoshop-cs5-ubuntu-1004/15:09
cryptotheslyc0rnel: although I just tend to fire up an Ubu liveCD and install testdisk on it. Only because I always have those CDs lying around.15:09
suduhow 2 install photoshop15:09
c0rnelsure15:09
_Marcussudu: Use the link I gave you15:09
auronandacesudu: ask in #winehq15:09
auronandaceFraz: yes, just mount the ntfs partition15:10
Dr_willisFraz,  you can access window shares. or use ssh/winscp if you want to do a quick copy back/forth15:10
resnoim trying to install postgres, but it wont start ubuntu 10.0415:10
Dr_willisor mount local drive...15:10
Frazok thanks15:10
maximohello...15:10
_MarcusHi Maximo15:10
maximoneed to findout if I can upgrade to new LTS ubuntu?15:11
mneptoksudu: why not use The GIMP?15:11
cryptotheslymaximo: from what version?15:11
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Dr_willis!upgrade | maximo15:11
ubottumaximo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade15:11
maximofrom the last one...15:11
maximohangon15:12
Dr_willis12.04 LTS is not released yet. :)15:12
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ryanpriormaximo: what does "lsb_release -d" say?15:12
phatphoton_Quick bump on a bluetooth problem anybody?15:12
Maximoryanprior: how do I do that?15:13
ryanpriorMaximo: super key, "terminal", type "lsb_release -d"15:14
Maximook15:14
oratedbazhang: Are you there?15:14
bazhangorated, bash guide you mean?15:15
bazhang!rute | orated15:15
ubottuorated: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com15:15
moe_egypthey guys, i need help, does anyone knw french chat rooms?15:15
ryanprior!fr | moe_egypt15:15
ubottumoe_egypt: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:15
bazhangmoe_egypt, #ubuntu-fr15:15
resnoany help getting postgres installed and running?15:16
ryanpriorresno: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=postgres+ubuntu15:16
Maximoryanprior: 10:04.4 LTS15:16
Dr_willisresno,  tell the channel exactly how you installed.. and what the error messages are. use pastebin if needed15:16
mneptokmoe_egypt: #ubuntu-qc itou15:17
oratedbazhang: I meant a small chart/table for commonly used commands.. ? I saw !commands15:17
bazhangryanprior, never use that here15:17
resnoryanprior: i <3 people like you15:17
resnoDr_willis: apt-get install postgres, but i cant login to its user, and /etc/init.d/postgres start doesnt show anything15:17
ryanpriorbazhang, for my curiosity: your distaste or channel policy?15:17
Dr_willisorated,  many web sites have linux cli quick guides. saw one on lifehacker last week.15:17
cryptotheslyMaximo: there is a way to upgrade from 10.04 -> 12.04 but it is not released yet so may well go horribly wrong.15:17
mneptokresno: postgres will install from the package manager. you then have to configure it and start it. bear in mind, i'm a MariaDB person, not a postgres expert.15:18
bazhangryanprior, both15:18
ryanpriorbazhang: thanks.15:18
Dr_willisresno,  you should use the service command.. and ive no idea what postgres even is.... :)15:18
_Marcusresno: Don't listen to him. Anything here can be Googled. What would be the point of a support channel if everyone Googled everything?15:18
oratedOk thank Dr_willis15:18
Maximocryptothesly: how do I do it then?15:18
resno_Marcus: im not worried about those type peoples, i just want to figure out why it wont start15:18
Maximocryptothesly: what is the proper way to upgrade it?15:19
resnomneptok: ive got it installed but status shows nothing...15:19
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Dr_willisresno,  check the logs perhaps. enable verbose logging in its configs.  thats normal procedure in such cases15:19
resnoDr_willis: gotcha15:19
cryptotheslyMaximo: Open Update Manager, goto the settings and tick "Proposed updates" and set the Versions to "All versions" - you should then be offered the 12.04LTS upgrade. Make sure you have applied all 10.04 updates before proceeding. The best of luck!15:19
Maximocryptothesly: thanks alot15:20
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mneptokresno: does ps show the processes running? have you tried "sudo invoke-rc.d postgres start" (or "postgresd" or "postgres-server" or whatever the init job is named)?15:20
mneptokMaximo: i would wait until 12.04 is officially released.15:21
Dr_williswaiting on release... good idea..15:21
cryptotheslyMaximo: any problems - use #ubuntu+1 if before release15:22
mneptokMaximo: also, be prepared for "why would you do that?" reponses in #u+1 if the upgrade breaks things.15:23
darckseidhi some chanel from speack above mono develop ?15:23
darckseid?15:23
bazhang!alis | darckseid15:23
ubottudarckseid: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*15:23
mneptokdarckseid: http://www.mono-project.com/IRC15:23
cryptotheslymneptok: someone has to test it :D I'm not brave enough.15:23
Maximoguys reather "wait then" thanks alot.15:24
mneptokMaximo: smart decision. go and play with other stuff until 12.04 drops.15:24
Maximomneptok, cryptothesly, ryanprior: thanks alot15:25
cryptotheslyor run it in a VM and play with it15:25
resnomneptok: im likely installing the wrong package15:25
Maximoyes sir15:25
BoomerBilewow, ubuntu runs pretty sweet on a p3 800 with 256 meg of pc100 ram and an old matrox mga g200 agp15:26
mneptokresno: sudo apt-get install postgresql15:26
Maximomneptok: once 12.04 is released, can I just go straight into the upgrade from15:27
MaximoUbuntu 10:04.4 LTS?15:27
mneptokMaximo: yes. but update/upgrade 10.04 fully, then move to 12.0415:27
resnomneptok: yea, did that no dice15:28
zykotick9Maximo: that's the plan - but its a huge change from 10.04 (gnome2) to 12.04 (gnome3), i'd expect issues ;)15:28
Maximoyes I do that automatically everyday...15:28
mneptokresno: sudo invoke-rc.d postgresql restart15:28
Maximoupdating it everyday15:28
cryptotheslythe "12.04 upgrade system broken" threads are already trickling in on ubuntuforums :(15:28
resnomneptok: what does invoke-rc.d do?15:28
bittinHello, somone else have more problems with fan noise in the Pangolin beta?15:28
mneptokresno: calls the init script that's supposed to start the service15:29
resnoah ok15:29
cryptotheslybittin: try  #ubuntu+115:29
bittincryptothesly: okay15:29
auronandacebittin: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 until release15:29
bittinauronandace: ah okay15:29
resnomneptok: ah, just did a purge postgres * and install and bam all set15:29
auronandacecryptothesly: beat me to it :)15:30
cryptotheslyfirst time for eveyrthing!15:30
mneptokresno: smashing!15:30
Gits-TLMHey guys, when I was trying to set fonts for terminal, I came across two 'monospace fonts'. 1. Ubuntu mono 2. monospace. I really liked the 2nd one but can't find it anywhere in ubuntu. Where is it located?15:30
mneptokGits-TLM: are you a person that needs large typefaces in CLI?15:31
Gits-TLMnot particularly.15:31
mneptokGits-TLM: http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download  <--- i use "Crisp" (third from bottom)15:32
Gits-TLMFrom GNOME-tweak, the second one is just name 'monospace'. But I can't find it anywhere in /usr/share/fonts mneptok15:32
ryanpriorI can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?'15:32
mneptokGits-TLM: that "Crisp" font at 12pt is TTY heaven :)15:32
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mneptokGits-TLM: "Monospace" is a placeholder for whatever you define system-wide as your Monospace font. it is not a typeface itself.15:33
mneptokGits-TLM: terminal fonts should always be monospaced to preserve columnular output15:34
meerkatsif anyone cares to take a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11785238#post1178523815:34
zykotick9ryanprior: are you installing onto raid or something?  the "is /dev mounted" is due to improper chrooting, see link in "/msg ubottu grub2"15:34
Gits-TLMSo, how do I get the one set default by ubuntu as the monospace atm mneptok ?15:34
pizzais 12.04 worth a look for a noob?15:35
mneptokGits-TLM: i don't understand the question.15:35
Gits-TLMI mean, I want that in my arch linux install as well, mneptok15:35
shaneopizza, yes but install it in a VM15:35
zykotick9pizza: no - the only point of 12.04 right now is to report bugs, do you want to do that?15:35
ryanpriorzykotick9: I'm just trying to install onto my one hard drive - no RAID.15:35
shaneojust to give it a shot15:35
pizzabugs.15:35
mneptokGits-TLM: look through the font prefs and see what you have defined as your monospace font.15:36
jakob_ojs15:36
shaneoits nice i cant wait till its released by far the best ubuntu so far15:36
zykotick9ryanprior: ah, it it a large drive 2+TB?15:36
pizzanope.  I will stick with 11.1015:36
ryanpriorzykotick9: Nope, 300gb.15:36
pizzawhen does 12 come out?15:36
Gits-TLMmneptok: you mean /usr/share/fonts right?15:36
mneptokryanprior: md5sum the .iso you downloaded to make sure it's bit-perfect?15:36
zykotick9ryanprior: do you have some "virus" support in your BIOS (guarding the MBR)?15:37
mneptokGits-TLM: no, i mean the font preferences in GNOME/Unity15:37
ryanpriormneptok: Yup, I've got an official disc from Canonical too.15:37
ryanpriorzykotick9: how would I know if I did? I've never hard of BIOS virus support.15:37
ryanpriorheard*15:37
Gits-TLMmneptok: how do I do that?15:38
mneptokGits-TLM: not sure. i am an XFCE user, and things are different from my GNOME2 days.15:38
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Gits-TLMzzz15:39
monohedronGits-TLM, what  version are you on?15:39
altair_Hello I am a Hacker does anyone need some help ?15:39
f4_hello15:40
phatphoton_altair_: you good with blutooth stuff?15:40
altair_Any girls here ?15:40
altair_Yes I am15:40
zykotick9!ot | altair_15:40
ubottualtair_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:40
mneptokaltair_: do i really need to warn you *again*?15:40
altair_pardon ?15:40
mneptokaltair: Guest76286: you will not receive any more help here. i suggest you stop asking and /part before i ban you.15:41
altair_what r u gonna do15:41
mneptokaltair_: i warned you about "hacking" discussions more than an hour ago.15:41
bazhangaltair_, you were here as a guest account earlier. changing you rnick wont get hacking help this time either15:41
auronandacealtair_: he just said15:41
phatphoton_altair_: My bluetooth mouse can't connect and an hcidump says the host is disconnecting it right after auth15:41
theTroycan someone recommend a hex editor that can read unicode? I have a corrupt file that I need to salvage, and it is not written in English15:41
f4_I'm trying to setup a reverse tunnel through ssh. I've already done that but it's listenning on the server on 127.0.0.1:port. This time I need to have it accessible from outside so it must listen on 0.0.0.0:port15:42
f4_is there something to modify in the shhd configuration?15:42
crossfaderaltair_ i always need help15:43
auronandacecrossfader: he was kicked15:43
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usacomputertecOk, I have a question, I'm running 11.04 Natty, and every time I try to open a game it fails to run, I can open any program or file, but no games. Why?15:43
usacomputertecI use to until recently15:44
auronandaceusacomputertec: games within wine? or native linux games?15:44
usacomputertecnative ones15:45
usacomputertecand wine ones15:45
usacomputertecbut SNES9X works15:45
usacomputertecand Java and Flash games15:45
usacomputertecbut urbanterror, tux racer, and stuff like that doesn't open15:45
auronandaceusacomputertec: for wine games, the guys at #winehq recommend turning off compiz15:45
usacomputertecCompiz isn't on15:45
pb97can anyone tell me a good racing game???15:46
usacomputertecHmmm aurondance some of the errors I'm getting in the terminal are due to missing .pnpg files15:46
usacomputertecpng15:46
usacomputertecmissing gtk themes15:46
usacomputertecmaybe I need to reinstall my themes15:46
mneptoktheTroy: i don't edit hex much (i don't think i have any old EBCIDIC around ;) ) but jEdit has some hex plugins. and jEdit certainly does Unicode.15:47
theTroymneptok: yeah.. but does the hex plugin do unicode? since np++ hex plugin doesnt, while the editor itself does15:48
auronandaceusacomputertec: recently updated the kernel or graphics drivers?15:48
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mneptoktheTroy: like i say, i have no idea. but i noticed my editor does hex. and i know it's Unicode friendly.15:48
usacomputertecaurondance no15:48
mneptoktheTroy: that's ... all i have :/15:48
theTroymneptok: thanks :) Ill keep looking15:49
auronandace!tab | usacomputertec15:49
ubottuusacomputertec: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:49
mneptoktheTroy: sudo apt-get install jedit <--- then use the plugin manager in the app itself to grab the plugins you want. worth the 3m?15:49
auronandaceusacomputertec: i can't think of much else that would make games stop working15:49
usacomputertecaurondance http://pastebin.com/b4wpyFX415:50
phatphoton_Anyone want to troubleshoot a bluetooth problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/895240/15:53
aaa801Is there a way to set the desktop background for a user via ssh?15:54
ikoniacopy the file to the desktop background filename15:54
aaa801which would be?15:54
ikoniait won't take effect until that file is re-parsed15:54
ikoniamaybe xsetroot, not sure if that will work with gnome though15:54
ikoniaaaa801: no idea, depends what they have selected as their background filename15:54
aaa801its just the default purpley one15:55
aaa801Also, is there a way to display a message to the local machiene user from ssh?15:56
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Frazhey16:01
Frazim trying to mount my windows partition, but its not showing any files16:02
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aaa801did u set the fs type?16:02
TetracommHello.16:02
auronandaceFraz: where is the mountpoint?16:02
TetracommHow do I check if Ubuntu supports a USB dongle that I am contemplating?16:03
Frazthe folder where its mounted to?16:03
auronandaceFraz: yes16:03
Frazmnt/windows16:03
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auronandaceFraz: how are you mounting it?16:03
Fraz1 sec ill show you guide i used16:04
aaa801Tetracomm what dongle is it?16:04
Frazhttp://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu << auronandace  heres the guide i used16:05
nissanbuenos dias16:06
nissanalguien sabe ubuntu serve16:06
nissantengo un serve pero es ubuntu 10.04 server pero el problema es que me sale un error16:06
nissan#2003 Cannot log in to the MySQL server16:06
auronandaceFraz: what is the output of mount?16:06
nissanla contraseña y el usuario están correctos16:06
bazhang!es | nissan16:07
ubottunissan: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.16:07
nissansorry16:07
nissanI can speak english16:07
nissansorry16:07
nissanhi people16:07
bazhangnissan, #ubuntu-server , but its english16:07
nissanI have a problem with my server ubuntu16:07
nissanthe error is :  #2003 Cannot log in to the MySQL server16:07
K350Konqueror is not a part of kubuntu 12.04. So what do I ripp my Audio CD:s with instead?16:07
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nissanbut I have the user and password fine and this server is ubuntu 10.04 server16:07
Frazhttp://pastebin.com/VdjUTUuX << auronandace16:08
nissansomebody can help me please!16:08
bazhangK350, install it. #ubuntu+1 for precise please16:08
nissanI dont understand this error in the server16:09
nissanbut is in mysqladmin the error16:09
mohanohihi..16:09
auronandaceFraz: you typed it wrong16:09
Frazoh?16:09
tollandany idea why this request to httpd is waiting 20 secs to return;16:09
tollandhttp://pastebin.com/N3xq8SWg16:09
K350bazhang: oh, yeah that of course. And hansk for teh channel tip :-)16:09
auronandaceFraz: you missed the space between the device and the mountpoint16:09
mohanohiI need to search a list of files in the specific path and list .. is it possible?16:09
Frazoh16:10
nissanhi people16:10
Frazlol16:10
nissansomebody do of ubuntu server=?????????????16:10
nissanI need to help me for my ubuntu server16:10
Frazyay there we go16:10
monohedronmohanohi, yes16:10
Frazcheers auronandace16:10
bazhangnissan, #ubuntu-server as I said16:10
auronandaceFraz: no worries16:10
nissanok thanks16:11
nissanbazhang:  thanks thanks ;)16:11
mohanohimonohedron : how? pls..16:11
auronandaceFraz: also you should use sudo in the future (no need to open a root terminal to mount something)16:11
monohedronuse find16:11
m477do you know console mp3 player?16:11
Frazok16:11
mohanohimonohedron .i have around 240 files to find and have the list of files in a text file..16:11
monohedronnow that is sligthly diffrent to what you said16:12
mohanohimonohedron : oh sorry..16:12
mohanohimonohedron : i need to search those files and copy to a location..16:13
monohedronmohanohi, just to make sure I have that right. you have a list of 240 file names in a txt file and would like to search for them in a specific path16:13
mohanohimonohedron : yeah.. but also should search in subdirectories within that path..16:14
boarty!list16:15
ubottuboarty: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:15
monohedronmohanohi, well not sure whether you can prime find with a file, I'd have to check that16:15
monohedronmohanohi, are the file names similar or do they have anyting in common16:17
mohanohimonohedron : files names are like MVI_0839.MOV MVI_0843.MOV16:17
KlejIs only way to install ubuntu as dualboot over CD or i can install with usb ????16:18
Zaitzevyou can install it with USB yes16:18
monohedronso all mov files ?16:18
KlejOk.16:18
mohanohimonohedron : yeah..16:18
monohedronare there any mov files in there that you don't want copied ?16:18
mohanohimonohedron : yeah.. i have to only search specific files in those MOV files..16:19
capitalhello people16:19
ZaitzevKlej: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download - look at step 2.16:19
mohanohimonohedron : its around thousands of files in those directory.. :(16:19
capitalhello people16:19
monohedronhave you considered to simply write a script that loops through your files file16:20
KlejZaitzev its only possible in ubuntu16:20
Kleji cant make it if am using windows now...16:20
mohanohimonohedron : Scripting part is i am so weak :(16:20
ZaitzevKlej: Oh but you can.16:20
sitek82hi16:21
monohedronyou know there a is a specific channel that can give you elp on that ?16:21
monohedroni think it's #bash16:21
auronandacemohanohi: i'm sure #bash can help too16:21
mohanohimonohedron : oh .. ok..16:21
sitek82jak ja dawno na ircu nie bylem16:22
monohedron:) you'll get there16:22
mohanohimonohedron, auronandace : thanx for the info.. :)16:22
HJE841I'm cp'ing some files (~250GB) from a HDD to my NAS, but it keeps saying 'No space left on device'. Any suggestion?16:22
bazhang!pl | sitek8216:22
ubottusitek82: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.16:22
sitek82ok16:23
auronandaceHJE841: it's pretty difficult to misunderstand the error16:23
HJE841auronandace, I know, but the disk is a 1TB disk and the NAS is 1.8TB in total...16:24
ZaitzevDoes running 32-bit Ubuntu on a 64-bit system have noticeable differences in performance?16:25
auronandaceHJE841: and before you started copying how much was the 1.8tb disk full?16:25
HJE841auronandace, just about 30GB16:25
monohedronHJE841, did you check the trash16:25
dakirahi. i just fixed a bug in a unity lens. I used bzr to pull the project from launchpad and fixed the bug. what is the recommended way to get the fix back to the developers? Surely bzrs launchpad integration somehow takes care of this?16:26
sipiorZaitzev: not really.16:26
Zaitzevsipior: I'm just sick of stuff like Flash not working 100% :p16:26
HJE841monohedron, where's that in an embedded linux environment? (CLI)16:26
monohedronHJE841, you just lost me16:27
dakiraZaitzev: it totally depends on what you're doing with your computer. Some things are handled more efficiently in 64bit so you'd notice big performance improvements.. if you just run office and games you won't notice a difference.16:27
auronandaceZaitzev: complain to adobe, i've used flash fine on 64bit for a few years now16:27
monohedronnever touched embedded stuff16:27
irulehi, how may I install ip_alias? I need to create a new virtual nic16:27
HJE841monohedron, I'm accessing the nas via ssh16:28
Zaitzevdakira: Nothing much, regular desktop use, really.16:29
monohedronHJE841, no idea what NAS it is what OS it's runing or how it's setup so I can't really help you with that16:29
* monohedron buys a bag of punctuations16:29
ZaitzevHJE841: type "uname -a" without quotes on your NAS16:29
Zaitzevauronandace: Flash did work fine, then suddenly stopped, I did some reinstalling and now it works partially.16:30
ZaitzevAnd it's Flash 11 which according to Adobe supports 64-bit systems.16:31
* satyanash wants one too.16:31
auronandaceZaitzev: i haven't tried the 64bit flash (as far as i'm aware)16:31
administratorhi folks16:32
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bad_allochi, is there any way to set the system volume to an exact value? i know hot so increase/decrease the volume by a certain value, but i'd like to have a command to set it to 50%. how would i do that on ubuntu 10.04?16:32
danileigh79Is there a PPA cleaner tool? It's taking my update too long to load... when I go through software sources, it doesn't list them individually, so I can't figure out which ones to remove16:33
bazhangdanileigh79, ppa-purge16:33
bazhang!ppa-purge | danileigh7916:33
ubottudanileigh79: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html16:33
Guest81420do both versions of ssh have to be the same to connect to each other?16:33
zykotick9bad_alloc: check out "amixer"16:33
HJE841Zaitzev, uname -a: Linux delphi 2.6.33.2 #1 Mon Jul 18 07:15:26 CST 2011 armv5tel unknown16:33
bad_alloczykotick9: thanks for the pointer :)16:34
danileigh79bazhang: got it, thanks16:34
xzpeterHi all. Is there any chm reader that support highlight?16:34
bazhangxzpeter, try them and find out16:34
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bazhangxzpeter, apt-cache search chm turns up quite a few16:34
balushai im in a big trouble16:34
bazhangbalus, with what16:34
balusi installed ubuntu 8.116:35
bazhangbalus, thats eol16:35
balusand now my all files are lost16:35
auronandace!eol | balus16:35
ubottubalus: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:35
balusi think so16:35
bazhang!eolupgrades | balus16:35
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irulehow may I setup ip aliasing? this is a debian and I get ifup eth0:0 ..Ignoring unknown interface eth0:0=eth0:0 modprobe ip_alias FATAL: Module ip_alias not found.  --thanks!16:35
bazhangirule, debian?16:36
soupeeeI have a bunch of unneeded dirs under /usr/src. What's the best way of getting rid of them?16:36
danileigh79bazhang: I don't know the ppa names I want to remove, they're not listed individually in my software sources16:36
xzpeterbazhang: actually I have tried chmsee and xchm which don't work. I just found chm2pdf which is interesting...16:36
raidoauronandace: not if he installed server16:36
bazhangdanileigh79, what about in sources.list.d16:36
auronandaceraido: yes if he meant 8.10, 8.04 is the lts release16:37
irulebazhsang ubuntu 11.10, just testing you ha16:37
iruleeather way, I need virtual nics! :s heh16:37
bazhangirule, its sudo ifup eth016:37
raidoauronandace: Doh! I thought he said 8.04. I see now he said 8.1.16:37
soupeeeI have a bunch of unneeded dirs under /usr/src. What's the best way of getting rid of them?16:38
irulesudo -i gives me all you can eat root access bazhang16:38
bazhangsoupeee, why do you think they are unnecessary16:38
soupeeeno more room16:38
irulesoupee leave the OS alone heh16:39
bazhangsoupeee, thats not the way to get more room16:39
sipiorsoupeee: that isn't *exactly* the same thing, is it?16:39
soupeeewell, how/16:39
soupeee?16:39
irulesoupee you should rather uninstall crap with the tools, not just rm16:39
soupeeefine, tell me the tool16:39
danileigh79bazhang: searched, no sources.list.d file or folder found16:39
irulesoupee use synaptic16:39
dimple_onebleachbit is a good clean up tool16:40
irulesoupee get the uvuntu server distro, it asks wether you want X or not, avoid all other groups and you get a neeny wheeny installation, I did that today heh16:40
balusi need help16:41
iruleI have help16:41
bazhangbalus, upgrade to a supported version16:41
soupeeeonly have 4g ssd and 8g sd card16:41
balusi installed ubuntu 8.1 using live cd16:41
bazhangbalus, yes, and its not supported16:41
auronandacebalus: why are you using an old release?16:41
irulebazhang so! why are my virtual nics not supported in ubuntu?16:42
Zaitzevbalus: Why would you install an old OS?16:42
balusand couldnt boot to xp16:42
carl_CarlS16:42
balusbcoz i thought of updating after installing that16:42
bazhangirule, I'd need more info to give an answer16:42
ZaitzevYou can't install Linux AFTER Windows and expect it to work16:42
Zaitzevno wait, other way around xD16:42
* Zaitzev is shutting up now. :p16:42
munHi16:43
th1tahello16:43
irulebazhang ifup eth0:016:43
auronandacebalus: why not just install the latest from scratch?16:43
balusand i couldnt find xp in my boot uption16:43
bazhangirule, why do you need virtual nics in the first place16:43
danileigh79Can anyone tell me where to find a list of my currently installed PPA's? It's not showing up in software sources16:43
carl_Anyone have a link to a good article on how to get a script in the init.d dir to start on bootup?16:43
auronandacebalus: much cleaner than upgrading an old release16:43
th1tahow do i change permissions in removable usb device ?16:43
bazhang!upstart | carl_16:43
ubottucarl_: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/16:43
munI suddenly can't boot. I'm getting an error saying error no such partition grub rescue. Could someone please help?16:43
balusand in places all the drives are merged in to a single storage16:43
balusfelt like all my data is gone16:44
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auronandacebalus: use a livecd and see if you can mount the partition16:44
irulebazhang I have a public access point and need to give different service to different users heh16:44
bazhangirule, I'd ask in ##networking to be honest16:45
balusi used the xp installation disc and saw only two partitions16:45
baluswhile earlier i had four16:45
precisemehI! I've got 12.04 and i'm trying to install ia32-libs, but it fails complaining about this: http://pastebin.com/Wk1BuLvT16:45
precisemeany suggestions on what i could try?16:46
auronandace!12.04 | preciseme16:46
ubottupreciseme: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+116:46
bazhangpreciseme, thats in #ubuntu+1 for precise16:46
balusand i installed xp in one of that16:46
precisemeAHA16:46
precisemei shall do that16:46
precisemethanks16:46
balusnow also i cant see the other one16:46
auronandacebalus: so you installed xp in a partition without knowing if it already had anything on it?16:47
bnmorgancould someone PM me with how to change the boot order from inside ubuntu so that it is not the default OS anymore?16:47
irulebazhang that channel is asleep hehe16:47
balusyes16:47
baluslet me make it clear16:47
balusi have 160 gb hard disk16:47
auronandacebalus: in that case the installer likely formatted it first, so what was on it is now not there, xp installed over it16:48
irulebnmorgan I know that one! ha16:48
balusearlier it was 30gb,30gb,30gb,60 gb16:48
balusso thats my 4 drives16:48
balusnamely c,d,e,f16:49
balusand had xp on c16:49
balusi was installing ubuntu16:49
bazhang!enter | balus16:49
ubottubalus: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:49
irulebnmorgan I know that one! ha https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:49
KlejI dont know what's the problem...16:49
TeamRocket1233cMorning guys!16:50
irulemornin16:50
KlejWhen i click on install it says that i have ubuntu installed16:50
TeamRocket1233cOr technically almost afternoon here.16:50
Klejbut i cant boot him16:50
Klejwhat's gonna problem16:50
Klejonly load windows 716:50
iruleTeamRocket1233c good morning, do you know how to setup a new eth0:0?16:50
balusduring installation it showed only 4gb of c drive is used as xp and showed ubuntu can be installed on free space of 25 gb16:51
m3talh3ad_hello. I want to setup a network brigde with a wireless managed card.with brctl i get the error "operation not supported"16:51
TeamRocket1233cbalus: You could try taking a second hard drive and installing Ubuntu on it and seeing of NTLDR will recognize the Ubuntu drive.16:51
gio2831ciao16:52
gio2831!list16:52
ubottugio2831: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:52
TeamRocket1233cirule: Hadn't gotten that far yet, somewhat new to Linux.16:52
llutzirule: "sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.x.y up"16:52
irulethanks16:52
Klejwhy i cant boot ubuntu16:52
bazhangKlej, is this a wubi install16:53
TeamRocket1233cKlej: Either GRUB screwed up or the entire install screwed up.16:53
Klejno16:53
Klejwhen i use install16:53
balusand after that there was no option to boot to xp and after doing some browsing , i decide to install xp.i used my xp disk and there were two partitions.one was about 135gb and other about 5 gb.i used the 5gb one to install xp and now im in xp and i can only see 5gb in my computer16:53
Klejhe said me will i want to upgrade16:53
Klejbut i cant run them16:53
Klejhow to resolve it16:53
iruleI think it does not work ...sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.3.254 up SIOCSIFADDR: File exists SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address16:54
balusmy first priority now is to get back my other drives as they have lots of important files16:54
Klejanybody help me ?16:54
Ownerhow can i connect to telnet from outside the computer?  ive disabled the firewall but it still wont let me connect16:54
Zaitzevbalus: That's probably because the drive has been formatted. You should open Device Manager and go down to Disk Management, and see what you find there.16:54
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___jk___se me lee16:55
waxstone!bootinfo | klej16:55
ubottuklej: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).16:55
ZaitzevKlej: You probably didn't install it correctly16:55
___jk___alguien sabe configurar gyachi16:55
sipiorOwner: telnet? here in 2012?16:55
Owneri stopped UFW, and I can connect to telnet localally   its listening on TCP 6 :::23 but not on TCP416:55
Ownerhow can i get telnet to listen on TCP416:56
Zaitzevstop using telnet, dude.16:56
Klejwaxstone how i can run it16:56
Klejif i am on windows 7 :S16:56
Kleji cant test it16:56
superstrawzomg telnet16:56
Ownerim testing omsething16:56
Owneri need telnet listening on TCP4 not TCP616:56
waxstoneklej: boot to the live cd16:56
Klejhow ?16:56
Klejim booting over usb stick16:57
superstrawtelnet -4 forces ipv416:57
llutzirule: so you already have  eth0:016:57
waxstoneklej: same   way you installed itr16:57
sipiorOwner: are you using tcp wrappers?16:57
ZaitzevKlej: When you boot with the USB stick, one of the options you get is "Start without installing" (or similar)16:57
Klejyeah16:57
Zaitzevdo that.16:57
Klejand what now ?16:57
Klejand ?16:57
Ownersipior: no16:57
irulellutz ipconfig -a says I do not16:57
Ownersipior: inetd decided telnet should only listen on TCP v6  which is idiotic16:58
llutzirule: ip addr show dev eth016:58
Ownerwhere do you change that16:58
sipiorOwner: consult the daemon documentation then. probably just a config file that needs editing.16:58
superstrawOwner: telnet -4 forces ipv4, if that's what you're looking for.16:58
sipiorsuperstraw: that's for the client.16:58
Owneri need the telnetd16:58
superstrawah telnetd16:58
* superstraw goes back to work, defeated :(16:59
sipiorOwner: you should just need to change "tcp6" to "tcp46" in inetd.conf.16:59
irulellutz eth0 exists and works, there is no eth0:016:59
lifestreamAnyone know how I may be able to pass $color $font and such from a bash script into conky? I put it in my script but it doesn't actually seem to affect conky.17:00
Ownersipior: yeah i guessed that....but guess what 'tcp' means 'tcp6' in ubuntard land17:00
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Ownerpretty stupiod17:00
gfc:superstraw!: ah fellowPRIVMSG #ubuntu ::superstraw!: ah fellow telnetter17:00
Ownersipior: thanks17:00
sipiorOwner: i wouldn't throw the term "stupid" around if i were incapable of consulting the inetd.conf man page.17:00
balusnow i can see the 144 gb in computer management but i dont want to lose any data in it.it is shown as healthy unknown partition.so is there any way to get back my files and partitions?17:01
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auronandacebalus: do you know what filesystem it was?17:02
TeamRocket1233cGNOME 3 didn't entirely fail.17:02
balusi think it was shown as extension and swap in ubuntu and as a single file system in places in ubuntu17:03
Zaitzevauronandace: From where I sit, those 144GB is either a blank partition, or a linux formatted one. Either way, it seems like it's been wiped.17:03
auronandacebalus: i guess you better restore from your backups then17:04
TiktalikAny ideas on what package I could install to provide libGL.so.1?17:08
auronandace!find libgl | Tiktalik17:09
ubottuTiktalik: Found: gle-doc, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg, libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg, libgl1-mesa-swx11, libgl1-mesa-swx11-dbg, libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev, libglade2-0 (and 217 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgl&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all17:09
yairgoI'm on 10.04(lucid) and need to install gobject-introspection-1.0 which is not in the package repos til natty, anyone know of how to install it or point me in the right direction to install it17:09
Tiktalikauronandace, how can I find out if those have libgl.so.117:10
xanguayairgo: compile¿17:10
balusthanks for the help17:10
auronandaceTiktalik: not sure sorry17:10
Tiktalik:(17:10
xanguayairgo: upgrade to natty, or upgrade to latest17:11
yairgoxangua thanks17:11
douglaslucasAnyone have an opinion on whether OpenOffice or LibreOffice makes .DOC, .DOCX, and .XLS look better for clients who are using MS Word on Mac or Windows ?17:14
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auronandacedouglaslucas: wouldn't it be the same across all?17:15
monohedron__nope it rednders differently17:15
monohedron__even renders17:16
catcherLooking to get a pair of large monitors - is there a limit on what size monitors X can run? Or is the limitation only on my graphics card?17:17
auronandacecatcher: i think its the graphics card/driver17:18
gvoGraphics card only.17:18
patryk_elo17:18
[Si]catcher running 2 2560x1600 here and they run fine :)17:18
patryk_co tam?17:18
nasa01Hi, does anyone know how to boot ubuntu into a standard terminal (ie: don't start the login manager) when I tried stopping that service, the boot process just hung17:18
bazhang!pl | patryk_17:18
ubottupatryk_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.17:18
catchernice, thanks guys17:19
auronandace!text | nasa0117:19
ubottunasa01: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode17:19
gvoI'm sure there is a limit in X but it's probably 1000 times higher than your graphics card.17:19
waxstonenasa01,  add text to kernel line17:19
catcher[Si], what size monitors?17:19
[Si]catcher 30 inch17:19
catcher[Si], ooh.. $1k each?17:19
gvo[Si] Sony?17:20
[Si]something like that :) HP ZR30W, but ubuntu runs fine dual head with that screen res. ou are talking stupid money to go bigger.17:20
usacomputertecWhy won't urban terror start? http://pastebin.com/b4wpyFX417:20
* catcher jealous17:20
catcherHas anyone attempted a vertical monitor setup? I'm a programmer, so vertical real estate is prime.17:22
nasa01Thanks ubottu and waxstone -- although that solution may not work... I am trying to test out a different WM and the single user mode may not support that.  I will try to verify17:22
[Si]usacomputertec you are missing the 3d extensions on your X server. SO I guess the wrong driver is installed.17:22
gvocatcher How about an editor that has two columns instead?17:24
monohedronapologies that was totally unintentinal17:24
catchergvo, I regularly have 4 columns going in emacs, but more height would be killer.17:24
llutzcatcher: xrandr --above/--below17:25
catchergvo, more context would be nicer than more frames.17:25
catcherllutz, ty, I'll check into that..17:25
gvoMany years ago someone, I forget who, had a monitor that was tall and narrow, but I think that was back in the dos days.  It was for displaying a whole 8.5  x 11 page.17:25
[Si]gvo apple used to have massive Portrate CRTs for like newspapers.17:26
gvoI haven't seen any lately.17:26
catcherthe hunt begins, starting with xrandr :)17:26
gvoRight, I forgot about those.17:26
llutzlots of monitors have pivot-function, just turn them to portrait17:26
usacomputertec_why won't my Video games start? http://pastebin.com/b4wpyFX417:27
catcherllutz, wish the nvidia driver had native support for portrait, life would be easy..17:28
CellTechMy gf bought us windows phones. Do we have a program yet that will let us sync them?17:28
londonhas anybody tried running backtrack on ubuntu in virtual box17:29
KlejI have the grub menu,but when i click on every ubuntu it goes to black screen17:29
DJCellTech: what are you trying to do?17:29
[Si]usacomputertec I already answered that question.17:29
CellTechDJ: Windows phones require zune software to sync and instal media to the phone. Similar to iTunes but only MS this time17:29
usacomputertec_[Si] sorry, I missed it17:30
[Si]usacomputertec_ this may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11387260#post1138726017:30
usacomputertec_[Si] I tried looking for the answer you wrote in chat and didn't find it17:30
KlejZaitzev17:31
usacomputertec_[Si] I was away from keyboard at a court case.17:31
michal_Hi,I have managed to install software on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I can see all networks arround but when I'm trying to connect to my own it's not working.I know that WPA may be an issue so I have created password:letters and digits no spaces.Still not working.Help!17:31
KlejI have the grub menu, but when i click on any of ubuntu os...it goes to black17:31
[Si]!nomodeset Klej17:31
Klej!nomodeset17:32
auronandace!nomodeset | Klej17:32
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:32
ubottuKlej: please see above17:32
[Si]Klej check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313217:32
michal_Hi,I have managed to install software for NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I can see all networks arround but when I'm trying to connect to my own it's not working.I know that WPA may be an issue so I have created password:letters and digits no spaces.Still not working.Help!17:32
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michal_Hi,I have managed to install software for NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I can see all networks arround but when I'm trying to connect to my own it's not working.I know that WPA may be an issue so I have created password:letters and digits no spaces.Still not working.Help!17:34
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Klejacpi_osi=17:35
Klejwhere i write this code ?17:35
gvomichal_ temporarily remove the WPA password from your box.17:35
gvomichal_: make sure you can connect without a password first.17:35
michal_gvo you mean my router17:36
gvoYes17:36
waxstoneKlej, read the links provided to you17:36
Kleji've read17:36
michal_do it firs without password and than will work?17:36
Klejbut links are not useful!17:36
gvoNo that will tell you if you have a general problem in connection or an authenication problem.17:37
michal_ohhhh17:37
gvomichal_ if you can connect with no password in the router then you know that you've got an authentication problem.17:38
gvoOtherwise you have a network, driver or other issue.17:38
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michal_but how it can see every single network arround but can't connect to it,this is something I do not get17:39
michal_I'm to tick for linux17:39
tsakalihi , greek?????????????17:39
[Si]Klej edit the file syslinux.cfg on the usb stick, find the entry you are trying to boot and add nomodeset to the append line17:40
LjL!gr | tsakali17:40
ubottutsakali: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes17:40
Nirhi,someone can help me to install a printer of brother mfc 7320?17:40
Klej[Si] --- when i edit it...it will need new installation ????17:41
tsakalithanks17:41
ednoliversis there a multiarch-support package for i686 lucid?17:41
[Si]no just boot off it, it's a usb stick I seem to recall from earlier right?17:41
michal_<gvo> if there will be driver issue schould I uninstall everything and do it again?17:41
Klej[Si] what code i need to add  ????17:42
michal_and if it's authentication issue what should I do than?17:42
[Si]Klej nomodeset17:42
Klejmhm ok17:43
mirko1Hi! Can somebody please help me repairing Totem? I've already posted a question on the Ubuntu forum, but no answer yet, and since this isn't my system but I've messed it up it's somewhat burning to me.17:43
mirko1Link to the question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194498017:43
mirko1Or should I better paste the question in here?17:43
Nirhi,someone can help me to install a printer of brother mfc 7320?17:43
Klej[Si] when i add that code....how i can run installed system from grub menu17:43
Klejwill it use without usb or not ?17:43
raidoNir: The brothe site has good instructions and Linux drivers.17:44
[Si]you were asking about a usb disk right Klej?17:44
Nirok raido i try thanks17:44
Klej[Si] noooo :)17:45
raidoNir: Ok, Iv done a couple Brothers following their instructions. No problems.17:45
Klej[Si] i have installed ubuntu,but when i run it from grub menu it goes to black screen17:45
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[Si]Klej ok so you can't boot your system, in GRUB find the entry you want to boot press e17:45
Klejyeah ?17:45
[Si]in the next screen, find the line with "quiet splash" in it17:46
Klejok ?17:46
[Si]type nomodeset before quiet splash17:46
Klejand how to save ?17:46
Klej[Si] how to save it ?17:46
collinAnyone know the difference between FUSE and ext3 filesystems? Or are they not comparable?17:47
zykotick9collin: fuse isn't a filesystem17:47
monohedronKlej, once it it is in press boot17:47
Atlantic777Is there any wiki page about boot problems troubleshooting?17:47
sipiorcollin: FUSE is a framework for creating and manipulating filesystems in user-space. ext3 is a filesystem implemented at the operating system level.17:48
[Si]f10 will make it boot17:48
[Si]or ctrl-X17:48
profelmHey guys, I was wondering if there's a good svn interface I can use.17:48
monohedronohoh17:48
Sidewinder1mirko1, Here's what I'd do: in Synaptic, 'Fix broken packages" also in Synaptic, totally remove Totem, then reinstall.. No guarantees, that's just what I'd try if you haven't already.17:48
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[Si]once you are in the system and it works edit /etc/default/grub to modify the default boot line then update-grub17:48
cryptotheslowAtlantic777, how far does your boot get?17:49
monohedron[Si], kej got lost17:49
dicannamasgood afaternoon, what is the command to delete and purge a file on the terminal?17:49
kltrgHi, I'd like to extract the mms: adress out of that html file using bash: http://13h15-le-samedi.france2.fr/?page=accueil&rubrique=monoeil So far, I tried 'curl http://13h15-le-samedi.france2.fr/?page=accueil&rubrique=monoeil | grep mms:' but it doesn't work17:49
Atlantic777cryptotheslow: until grub. Actually, im trying to help Klej, he has some problems. He'll be right back.17:49
cryptotheslowdicannamas, rm is the remove command. Not sure what you mean by "purge"17:50
[Si]monohedron Oh :(17:50
mirko1Siderwinder1: thanks, but there are no more broken packages, but it seems to me that there's a codec library  missing and I can't find it. removing totem? hmm, sounds dangreous. would do that if it where my system, but the OP is a beginner a few thousand kilometers away from me. will consider it evertheless, any more ideas?17:51
jahaWhat are your thoughts on settings up a small 10.04 server on SSD? Which filesystem to use? ext3/ext4? This will be a stand alone net device. I want to protect against power failures and such as these are a possibility.17:51
Fyodorovnadicannamas, sudo apt-get purge17:52
dicannamascryptotheslow, i had modify a file from Icecast2 and when i reinstall comes back with the same edited file17:52
Fyodorovnadicannamas, then the app a file is another do you mean a ap?17:53
dicannamasFyodorovna, i belive i have to also put remove there?17:53
Sidewinder1mirko1, After you've reinstalled Totem (again, with Synaptic Package Manager), when you try to run Totem, it's error messages should list the codecs needed.17:53
uictamaleHey all, I can't seem to add a simple sudoers addition without breaking the syntax.  I simply want a user named 'joe' to be able to run 'apache2ctl restart'17:53
Fyodorovnadicannamas, depends on what it is so what is it you want removed.17:53
dicannamasFyodorovna, i want to remove icecast2 completly and start from scratch17:54
uictamaleMy latest try is:    joe  ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: apache2ctl restart17:54
uictamalesudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 2617:54
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Fyodorovnadicannamas, sudo apt-get purge icecast2    no removal needed that is what the purge command does.17:54
zykotick9uictamale: just a guess, but i doubt "restart" should be there17:54
raidouictamale: Not for sure but I dont think you need the "restart" part.17:55
dicannamasFyodorovna, thanks17:55
uictamaleI was just going by the man page - it says commands are comma delimited17:55
zykotick9raido: great minds...17:55
uictamaleI'll try taking it out17:55
Fyodorovnadicannamas, no problem.17:55
uictamalenope, taking out restart doesn't help... same parse error.17:56
raidouictamale: ya, but in this case the command is apache2ctl and restart is just an option17:56
Sidewinder1mirko1, Another note; if the system in question is running 10.04, it should not need any PPAs.17:56
uictamaleraido: Well, I did want the command that was allowed to be 'apache2ctl restart', because I didn't want this person able to run 'apache2ctl stop'17:56
mirko1uictamale:  joe  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: apache2ctl restart17:56
monohedronuictamale, how about a script17:57
uictamalemirko1: Same syntax error17:57
Nirraido what i need to download lpr or cupswrapper?17:57
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raidoNir: Are you getting an error17:57
Nirno,i get to this site17:58
Nirhttp://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-732017:58
Nirwhat i need to download?17:58
Nirlpr or cupswrapper?17:58
raidoNir: I installed both the LPR and the cups drivers.17:58
mirko1uictamale:  oops, sorry, you need the full path ie joe ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart17:58
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Sidewinder1mirko1, Yes, after reading your post in the forums, tell your friend to stay away from all PPAs; 10.04 should be able to do anything he/she wants from Synaptic; especially if he/she is brand new to Ubuntu/*nix.17:59
uictamalemirko1: Aha, that fixed it.. thank you!17:59
uictamaleThe issue was simply it being a command that assumed $PATH instead of having the full path.  thanks guys.18:00
raidouictamale: ah, good news18:00
Nirhow i do this after i download the driver?18:00
mirko1Sidewinder1:  the PPA was added much earlier only to get the latest VLC. it has been removed already. i think I'll try to remove totem on my system and see what that causes. then I can suggest to the OP.18:00
Nirraido how i do this after i download the driver?18:01
raidoNir: just go by the Brother instructions, then once youve finished, try adding the printer in the printer app. Be sure so look carefully for your specific printer, it will likely not be in alphabetical order.18:01
Nirok18:02
Sidewinder1mirko1, It should work fine. I have used that method quite a few times in the past with no problems whatsoever. Good luck.18:02
mirko1Sidewinder1:  ok, thanks i'll try :-)18:04
Sidewinder1My pleasure. I hope it helps.18:04
C1iFFYo, I screwed up on my home dir and mistakenly  moved tons of files there from my dropbox. Can any1 give help on writing a script to delete only these files?18:05
cojackhello18:05
cojackI have problem with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics18:05
vlt!here | cojack18:05
cojackI doesn't have vgaswitcheroo dir18:05
ubottucojack: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com18:05
MrHanjrahany good tutorial on samba with netbios integration ?18:06
manlymatt83Hi folks.  What's the channel for ubuntu Precise Pangolin?18:06
collinjsimpsonWhat's the difference between 'FUSE' and 'mount'18:07
collinjsimpson(Or are they not comparable again?)18:07
___jk___ola´18:07
xanguamanlymatt83: #ubuntu+118:07
MrHanjrah!mount18:07
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount18:07
MrHanjrahcollinjsimpson: ^^18:07
raidocollinjsimpson: I think FUSE is a gobetween the kernel and devices/filesystems not directly supported by the kernel.18:08
zykotick9collinjsimpson: fuse is like a virtual/non-real mount, where things mounted with mount require root permission and are "real"18:08
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collinjsimpsonubottu, raido, zykotick9, Great, thanks! Couldn't find that info for some reason.18:10
ubottucollinjsimpson: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:10
collinjsimpsonubottu, Sound more intelligent than me, which is depressing.18:11
ubottucollinjsimpson: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:11
sburwood1I've an HP 2660 printer.  It worked well.  For no reason I can tell, it refuses now to print.  Any ideas as to what to look at and to repair?18:12
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m24dehttp://3c921c66.hornywood.tv  HOT BRAZILIAN PORNSTAR GISELE GUCI  FUCKED HARD ENJOY18:14
collinjsimpsonm24de, lulz18:14
cm-tHi, I am looking for spec of OneConf for my schoolGroup for annual project. We will work for 12.10; anyone have an idea where i can get these specs(or nothing before UDS?) ?18:14
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nasserubuntu 11.10 doesn't detect my iphone 4s. what should i do?18:15
sburwood1Am I on the right channel for a printer question with Ubuntu 11.10?18:15
MaindotC-droidi have to continuously grep a value in the same directory throughout the day. i have a custom grep script to search the same directory but i dont want to use "read" and have it ask me for the search term...i just want it to accept the first value i pass it. is there a way to alias it like that?18:16
collinjsimpsonsburwood1, Ask and see.18:16
MalcomRenoldsI am not sure which channel to post this too, but I have an image which I suspect has a virus on it (some kinda spy software), what would be the best way to find out if I am right? (it would be a windows based virus)18:17
collinjsimpsonMalcomRenolds, Run a Windows virus scan on it? Should detect it.18:17
KlejDid ubuntu have some taskbar ???18:17
sburwood1collinjsimpson: I have an HP D2660 printer that has given satisfaction.  For no visable reason, it refuses to print.  I send something to print and it immedidately stops and I get an error screen.18:17
xanguanasser: downgrade to an iOS version that oneiric supports, jailbreak it or switch to android18:17
MrHanjrahMalcomRenolds: windows based virus *mostly* doesnt run on linux architecture, use some windows app to make sure you are clean18:18
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collinjsimpsonsburwood1, whats the error?18:18
MalcomRenoldsi am on ubuntu right now.... can you recommend a program that runs on ubuntu that I could use?18:18
MalcomRenoldsMrHanjrah: I think I am, but I used a USB bootdrive just to be sure18:18
sburwood1collinjsimpson: Hold on, I'm going to try to print something.18:18
xangua!virus | MalcomRenolds18:19
ubottuMalcomRenolds: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus18:19
alex-What are the differences between MINT and Gnome 2 in Ubuntu 12.04 ?18:19
alex-between MATE *18:19
nasserxangua: i've already jailbroken it!18:19
pingechow do i check if ntfs partition is mounted in read only or rw mode?18:19
collinjsimpsonsburwood1, I don't know how much help I can be, but it's worth a shot.18:19
xanguaalex-: you can ask about mint on mint channel and pangolin on #ubuntu+118:19
nassernot sure if i've installed oneiric yet18:19
_jk_s18:19
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_jk_ssssssssssss18:20
FloodBot1_jk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:20
_MarcusStop with your spam please18:20
MrHanjrahpingec: ntfs partitions are mounted as read only imo18:20
pingecyes, but is there a way to tell?18:20
_MarcusAnyway, I have a question. Ubuntu has an option to install next to Windows, and it's safe, right?18:20
_MarcusThe normal Desktop Ubuntu CD18:20
nasserxangua: sorry, i forgot oneiric is ubuntu 11.10! haha... anyway, though having jailbroken it, ubuntu 11.10 doesn't dettect it...18:20
Tm_T_Marcus: yes18:20
_MarcusTm_T: Great18:21
xanguanasser: no idea then, i don't use or preffer iphone18:21
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alex-thx xangua18:21
_Marcusnasser: Did you install the right software for it to detect it? It doesn't detect by default from what I've heard18:21
jao_hi may i ask what whats the difference in clamav updates main.cld from main.cvd, inshort the extension cld and cvd18:22
_Marcusjao_: I don't know exactly, but different extensions tend to mean different content.18:23
nasser_Marcus: no, i didn't. which one should i install?18:24
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_Marcus!ipod | nasser18:24
ubottunasser: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod18:24
collinjsimpsonsburwood1, Sorry, got to go. GL18:24
michal_I have ubuntu 11.10 with Netgear WNDA 3100v2 adapter and it's not connecting.I have disabled password and it did connect straight away.Current security is WPA+WPA2,please help18:24
nasser_Marcus: i've already read the documentation, but it doesn't work18:25
_Marcusnasser: Then don't know what to say. I don't have anything running Apple's iOS to test it myself.18:25
jao__Marcus, thanks freshclam stop working, so i found this manual download cvd but after checking in the clamav database /var/lib/clamav/ the updates is on cld files18:25
MalcomRenoldsxangua: cool thank.... ended up using ClamAV and it said it was clean18:26
MrHanjrahfor syncing my iPhone 4g, i installed windows xp in virtualbox, tried everything from open ssh to amarok and banshee, nothing tend to work18:27
benny_Anyone from the great state of Texas aboard....18:27
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nasserMrHanjrah: I've also installed WINXP in virtualbox, but it doesn't detect it. do you have any idea?18:28
_Marcusbenny_: That's offtopic. Please stay on the topic.18:28
ohshow can I compile a c++ file on ubuntu?18:28
MrHanjrahnasser: did you install virtualbox guest additions.?18:28
_Marcusohs: With GCC18:28
ohs_Marcus: what is the command for it?18:29
MrHanjrahmehh, that doesnt effect, click on the usb icon on the virtualbox window while running xp,18:29
ohs_Marcus: I mean the usage of it?18:29
MrHanjrahconnect iphone,18:29
_Marcusohs: Maybe you should read some C++ and Linux tutorials18:29
MrHanjrahyou should see something like apple inc, or similar....18:29
ohsdefinetely I need18:29
_Marcusohs: But for one file, it's "g++ file.cpp"18:29
MrHanjrahclick that, run iTunes, it should detect you iPhone18:29
_Marcusohs: I think you can just use the command "gcc", but I never tried18:30
theShadow-hi18:30
michal_Ubuntu 11.10 with Netgear WNDA 3100v2 adapter and it's not connecting.I have disabled password and it did connect straight away.Current security  Mode:WPA-PSK,WPA-PSK Encryption:TKIP+AES,WPA-PSK Version:WPA+WPA2.18:30
ohs_Marcus: thank you18:30
_MarcusHello theShadow-18:30
theShadow-is there any way to change the search bar so it will search everything?18:31
theShadow-atm it can't find applications in the home folder18:31
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FyodorovnatheShadow-, use the search in home.18:32
theShadow-sorry, i mean the unity searchg18:32
theShadow-so i can add it to the sidebar18:32
theShadow-actually nevermind, i can add it18:32
theShadow-but I would still like it to show up there18:33
floodstupid question, does anyone know if syslog is configured on default ubuntu install? or do i need to install a packagefor that?18:33
nasserMrHanjrah: yes, i've installed it18:34
dtcrshrI have noticed a new student, which is blind and use a VERY heavy app that talks when she moves the mouse pointer or change the position of the cursor. Is there some app like this, or some acessibility packages in ubuntu like this one?18:34
douglaslucasI have 64-bit Ubuntu, but can't figure out if for OpenOffice I should use the Linux Intel Deb package or the Linux x86-64 Deb one. Ideas?18:35
Fyodorovnadtcrshr, look at orca I believe18:35
Fyodorovnadouglaslucas, which ubuntu release are you running libreoffice is generally used.18:36
MrHanjrahnasser: :)18:36
_Marcusdouglaslucas: Use the x86-64 Deb one.18:36
douglaslucasFyodorovna: 11.10 Ocelot.18:36
douglaslucas_Marcus: okay. What's the difference between the two?18:37
Fyodorovnadouglaslucas, unless you removed it libreoffice is the install18:37
douglaslucasI do have an Intel processor...18:37
douglaslucasFyodorovna: Yes, I have LibreOffice, but I want to try OpenOffice18:37
Fyodorovnadouglaslucas, I don't think you can run both, not sure though.18:37
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zykotick9Fyodorovna: you're correct - libreoffice and openoffice share program names, thus only 1 can be installed at a time18:39
douglaslucasoh ok18:39
* zykotick9 wonders why anyone would want openoffice these days18:40
douglaslucasI wasn't aware that LibreOffice is so similar and more developed than OpenOffice18:40
edlik I lost video in firefox after update, I purged gnash, reinstalled adobe flash, restarted firefox and still nothing.18:41
douglaslucasI just switched to Ubuntu two or three days ago and have always previously used MS Word for .doc and .docx -- but now I need to either use LibreOffice or figure out how to get MS Word to work in an emulator (or whatever the proper term is) since I need to make .doc and .docx files for clients so they need to look right18:41
douglaslucassometimes the formatting and margins and such changed slightly back in OS X when I was comparing OpenOffice to MS Word18:41
MrHanjrahdouglaslucas: libreoffice can make .doc or .docx files18:42
zykotick9douglaslucas: get better clients ;)18:42
xanguadouglaslucas: MS office also supports odf, if it's updated18:42
wankinoedlik: I just purged gnash, and everything goes well.18:42
douglaslucasxangua: okay, that's good to know18:43
zykotick9douglaslucas: MS's ODF support is laughable18:43
MrHanjrahMS odf are not to be trusted at all18:43
oxidizerhi18:44
zykotick9MrHanjrah: +118:44
llamahawkHey i have a quick question: I have a Fujitsu N series lifebook with 1GB RAM and 1.73GHz CPU. do you guys think ill be ok installing 11.1018:44
trkemistI have a question about a dumb usb device18:44
trkemistanyone know how I can make a USB headset work with my computer?18:44
oxidizerh18:44
MrHanjrahllamahawk: more than enough18:44
zykotick9MrHanjrah: considering 1GB RAM is minimum ;)18:45
llamahawkMrHanjrah what about wireless drivers...its an intell GB 3200 or something.18:45
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llamahawki dont plan on running nay fancy graphics at all18:45
MrHanjrahzykotick9: i dont have any gui here, so for me i guess 256 mb would also do :)18:45
llamahawkFUCK IT...im jumping in and installing.18:47
oCeanllamahawk: control your language here, please18:47
MrHanjrahllamahawk: that's the spirit, best way to learn something is to just jump in18:47
MrHanjrahoh and, F words are not allowed :P18:48
michal_NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 not connecting to network,when I remove password it works,how to fix it.I have ubuntu 11.1018:48
nasa01Thanks ubottu and waxstone -- That solution does indeed work (I had worked with GRUB before and didn't know about that mode).18:48
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waxstonenasa01,  no problem ;P18:49
llamahawkMrHanjrah well i do have exp with Linux but havnet done it in a few years and i want to get back into it18:49
llamahawkso might as well image my laptop :)18:49
MrHanjrahllamahawk: start installing, it'll come back to you :)18:50
llamahawkman the installer has IMPROVED GREATLY18:51
MrHanjrahindeed18:51
douglaslucasI'm a really heavy Twitter user. When I had OS X I was using Tweetdeck. For Ubuntu, many webpages are suggesting Tweetdeck under WINE or Tweetdeck with the no-longer-supported Adobe AIR. I'm wondering if there's an application native to Ubuntu that's similar to Tweetdeck. Ideas?18:52
dwm189does anyone here have any advice on how to get version gobject-introspection 0.10.7 on ubuntu 10.04?18:53
Myrttidouglaslucas: tweetdeck in chrome/chromium?18:53
ViaNocturna85douglaslucas: I just checked, there is an app called destroytwitter that supports Linux and is similar to Tweetdeck18:56
Chamunksis there a really light ubuntu based distro anyone here can refer me to?18:58
ChamunksSomething fairly userfriendly needs to be a pre requisite.18:58
ViaNocturna85Chamunks: how about lubuntu?18:58
xanguaChamunks: Xubuntu, Lubuntu even lighter18:58
killer_bquit18:58
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_jk_hola18:59
phirestalkerI am trying to install ubuntu on a new ssd I have tried USB I have tried cd, somewhere in the installing system phase it freezes up and goes black. It is the only drive connected. Is there any way to install ubuntu to a new drive from a currently installed system??18:59
ChamunksViaNocturna85, hows the usability?  Its meant for an old p4 machine seems like it came from an educational facility but its not very fast and ubuntu would likely be too pokey.18:59
douglaslucashmm looking into destroytwitter18:59
ChamunksViaNocturna85, The user knows nothing about linux but the ubuntu usability is usually lost in lighter versions :S19:00
oxidizerhi19:00
Chamunksxangua, they used to link those on ubuntu.com but not any more :S19:00
ViaNocturna85Chamunks: I haven't personally used lubuntu before, but i would recommend perhaps seeing it on youtube? that might give an idea?19:00
ChamunksViaNocturna85, kk fair I'll see what i can look up. :) Unless there are some other lighter distros that arent too lacking or difficult to install things like flash and codecs to.19:04
phirestalkerOn osx lion you can download an app from the appstore and install to an another drive from the running system. Is there a way to do that with Ubuntu?19:04
oxidizerhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii19:04
profelmHey guys, I was wondering if anyone has any useful SVN tools?19:04
ViaNocturna85Chamunks: I think Ubuntu based distros are probably the easiest out there, and well supported, and lubuntu seems the lightest of the bunch19:04
profelmOr suggestions for them?19:04
bastidrazorprofelm: svn --help19:05
AwesomeNerdhi19:05
profelmbastidrazor: I was wondering if there's something like Tortoise SVN for Unix.19:05
syslq__phirestalker: ubuntu adheres to fhs and you'd be breaking them, but it's doable19:05
syslq__phirestalker: you could statically compile an app19:05
llamahawkWhat version os Gnome is running on the USB interface for 11.10?19:05
llamahawkof*19:05
xanguallamahawk: oneieiric uses gnome 3.219:06
phirestalkersyslq__: I'm sorry I meant an app to install ubuntu on another drive from a running system19:06
Zaitzevphirestalker: You want to install Ubuntu on another drive, from within Ubuntu? and that drive is on the same computer as the one you're using?19:07
llamahawkaww19:07
llamahawkso pretty!!!19:07
zykotick9phirestalker: it's called "debootstrap"... non-trivial to complete i'd imagine19:07
oxidizerhhhh19:07
phirestalkerZaitzev: yes19:08
zykotick9!nomodeset | phirestalker if you're getting a black screen.19:08
ubottuphirestalker if you're getting a black screen.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:08
Zaitzevphirestalker: In essence creating a third OS to boot into? Wouldn't a normal Ubuntu install do the trick, by choosing that drive during install?19:09
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ZaitzevUhm, not third, second. Sorry.19:09
killer_bhi19:09
phirestalkerZaitzev: I'm afraid not, I can't get the installer to work19:09
Zaitzevphirestalker: Do you have a USB thumbdrive you can use?19:10
ZaitzevYou could create a bootable USB and boot using it, choose install and go from there. I guess.19:10
phirestalkerZaitzev: I intend to remove the current drive once it is installed on the new one19:10
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ZaitzevWhy don't you remove the current drive, install Ubuntu on the new with a bootable USB thumbdrive?19:11
phirestalkerzykotick9: it doesn't go black until after it is done copying files19:11
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Zaitzevit sounds like a hassle to do it the way you want :P19:11
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phirestalkerZaitzev: I tried that too19:11
llamahawkInstalled and updating exactly 365 updates.19:12
ZaitzevThen there's something else wrong entirely, if you can't even install on a blank drive.19:12
phirestalkerZaitzev: I tried USB and cd install, with only the new ssd connected with the same result, which is more likely drive or MB issue?19:13
Zaitzevphirestalker: I have no idea what it could be then19:13
ZaitzevDoes it even find the drive when you try to install? Is it visible in BIOS?19:13
vaziliKamraarit qtsun teidät synttäreeille!19:14
gfcubuntu19:14
phirestalkerZaitzev: yes it gets all the way past copying files and freezes after that, I know it is frozen because it stops reading the cd and the keyboard will not respond19:14
phirestalkerif an install freezes up the entire computer could it be only a drive issue?19:15
Zaitzevit could be the cd itself19:15
phirestalkerand if so how to prove it, I will have to exchange drive19:15
Zaitzevbad sectors and stuff19:15
phirestalkerZaitzev: I tried USB as well as I mentioned19:15
phirestalkerZaitzev: I prefer USB I always try it first19:16
Zaitzevwhat about trying to reinstall on the current drive you're on now?19:17
phirestalkerany expert hardware troubleshooters in here?19:17
Zaitzevis that an option for you? just to see if it DOES install?19:17
FLamenola19:17
phirestalkerZaitzev: I need that drive as a fallback, the way things are going19:17
FLamenola19:17
zykotick9!es | FLamen19:18
ubottuFLamen: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.19:18
phirestalkerif I am having an odd hardware issue, what software would you recommend to track down which component it is?19:19
l_rhello19:20
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crazydiamond__Hi. Can anybody explain what's "grep -v grep" ?19:20
l_rwill ubuntu provide gcc4.7 ?19:20
l_rit has been released today19:21
GalaxorSome packages I'm installing cannot be verified.  What could be the cause of that?  MitM?  Or is there a more innocent explanation?19:21
jribcrazydiamond__: greps for words other than "grep"19:21
crazydiamond__jrib: thank you!19:21
jorsHi all.  Need some advice here.  Currently planning on wiping my dads' laptop and loading Ubuntu on it (he's currently packing Vista, which is CRAP) The machine's quite old.  1.86GHz single core CPU, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HDD, Intel graphics etc.  Vista never ran well on it, so I figured I might as well make the switch to Linux.  He uses it for basic stuff: browsing, email, basic photo editing etc.  Question is: Should I go for 10.04.4 LTS, or rather wait for19:25
jors12.04?  Is 10.04.4 still good enough for his needs or what?  Sorry for being an a$$, maybe someone can help me.19:25
jribjors: 10.04 or 11.10 then upgrade when 12.04 is out if you feel the need to upgrade19:25
dlentzjors, i'd go for xubuntu 12.0419:26
dlentz(or lubuntu)19:26
collinjsimpsonAnyone know if it hurts to o-rwx system service configuration files ?19:28
jorsjrib:  Yeah, I'm aware of the LTS upgrade path.  I ust need something stable, people keep telling me to stick to LTS's.  Just worried that 10.04.4 will be obsolete soon.  Or am I wrong? Is 10.04 the most stable version for the job?19:28
flamen_ola19:29
flamen_ola19:29
jribjors: all releases are stable by definition.  As for whether 10.04 will be obsolete: it uses software from before april 2010 and will be supported on the desktop until april 201319:29
cryptotheslowjors, 10.04 has support for another year.19:29
flamen_ola19:30
cryptotheslowola flamen_19:30
jribjors: honestly, if you are planning on upgrading to 12.04, I'd use 11.10 just so that change in interface will not be as jarring as it will be when going from 10.04 to 12.0419:30
cryptotheslowjors, or consider Gnome fallback on 12.04 ;)19:31
ZehleHello there! :D My friend have a server that have been getting wierd messages from some IP :S I have a picture of what they have snt to his Ubuntu based server. How do you "paste" it? I know there´s a link right? :P19:31
dlentzthat's why i recommend x/l/ubuntu..19:31
jribZehle: paste.ubuntu.com19:31
jorsOk, thanks.  Maybe I should just wait for 12.04 then, after all, it's only a couple of weeks away..., and yes, gnome fallback was OK (just not on 11.10 is wasn't)19:32
cryptotheslowIf it were me, I'd wait - sling 12.04 on it happy in the knowledge that it has 5 years support and forget about it :)19:33
jors@cryptotheslow, yead, I guess that's the best idea.19:34
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netbushow does one switch irc channels they're in with irssi??19:35
danilo__hi people!19:37
danilo__hi19:37
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DJonesnetbus: "/window #windownumber"19:38
netbuscool, thanks!19:38
DJonesnetbus: "/w" is probably aliased to /window though, so you can do "/w 3" to get to window 3 etc19:38
mythmonHi. Is there a way to get rid of oneconf? I won't be using it.19:39
DJonesnetbus: Or Press & hold Alt and left/right arrows to cycle through windows19:39
mythmoni tried to just apt-get remove it, but it wants to remove my entire DE.19:40
netbusthank you, DJones. :)19:40
GhostConncan someone help me out and take a look at this and see if you can see a problem19:40
GhostConnhttp://pastie.org/364980819:40
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CacheMoneyis anyone running Ubuntu on a Samsung Series 7 laptop?19:41
GhostConni have spent hours configuring this file to make .plymouth splash screen work and NOTING!!!19:41
GhostConnhttp://pastie.org/364980819:41
ZehleCan anyone read this and tell me if It's any bad things in it? :P It's an accesslog from an ubuntu based server that has been sent some wierd commands(hacking attempts maybe)19:42
ZehleCan someone check it? :P19:42
ZehleIt's the ones that does'nt start at GET or HEAD19:42
ZehleWhat does the X things mean?19:42
ZehleLINK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/895546/19:43
CacheMoneyI'll buy someone a beer if they can help me to get boot loader working properly on my new laptop19:44
ontoHello! This is a question related to swftools and I hope I can ask it here. Does anyone know if one can extract text bounding box data using swfstrings?19:44
_MarcusHow do I view the amount of hard drive space that I gave Ubuntu? I want to know how much it is taking up and how much is left. I installed it next to Windows XP, so it keeps giving the whole drive, not my partition.19:44
GhostConn_Marcus downlaod and install kdisk19:45
_MarcusGhostConn: Is there another way where I don't have to install software?19:45
GhostConnits in the software centre19:45
_MarcusMaybe something with command line19:45
cryptotheslow_Marcus,  df -h  in a Terminal?19:45
GhostConnits only like couple hundred kb lol19:45
llamahawkCacheMoney, thats an awesome name19:45
cryptotheslowZehle, I see stuff like that in my apache logs too, no idea what it is though19:46
CacheMoneyllamahawk: thanks19:46
_Marcuscryptotheslow: Is this it: /dev/sda5              22G  2.5G   19G  12% /19:47
monoraq19:47
ontoah, I think I have it: swfdump -t file.swf19:47
_MarcusI gave it 25 GB, but that is only 19.19:47
_MarcusI meant 2219:48
GhostConntype df -h    that will tell you19:48
_MarcusWhatever, it seems acurate enough19:48
ZehleCyptotheslow: Okej, well yeah it's wierd :S I would be really greatful if someone can read the X thing on this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/895546/19:48
_MarcusThank you all!19:48
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cryptotheslow_Marcus, probably the difference between GB and GiB would explain the diff between 25 and 2219:48
oCean_Marcus: sudo fdisk -l  will list the partition layout for all disks19:48
oCean(some of the space was used as swap etc)19:49
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whonchHi. Yesterday i updated my firefox from 10 to 11, and now many things do not work. I tried deleting all the configuration and reinstalilng it, with no success. I'm using ubuntu 10.04. What can I do?19:50
ZehleIs there any Computer/Ubuntu experienced creature out there that can read the X messages in this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/895546/19:50
soreauwhonch: maybe try apt-get remove --purge <pkg> && apt-get autoremove && apt-get install <pkg>19:51
whonch?19:51
whonchAm I the only one having problems with firefox 11=19:51
whonchsoreau: I already tried that. For example, firefox sync doesn't work (when you click on it, nothing happens), and sometimes the back button is disabled19:52
uglyoldbobim having a problem with ubuntu 10.04 where double clicking a desktop link to firefox opens several instances19:53
uglyoldbobim not sure what setting would cause this19:53
whonchuglyoldbob: i'm also having problems with firefox in ubuntu 10.04, since the last update19:54
xanguawhonch: the back button is disabled when ther is nothing to go back19:55
whonchno, its disabled even if you have been browsing for a while19:55
whonchbut not always, just in some cases19:55
p_hello19:56
SomnathHello :)19:56
ZehleWhy can't noone help me?19:56
mcb_Zehle: Is that an log from Apache? All those "\xf6\" are strings passed in Hex form. If it is an apache log problably someone is trying to do some nasty thing......19:56
p_can some tell how to get google talk on ubuntu19:57
cryptotheslowZehle, I did a little searching and that appears to be shellcode19:57
xanguap_: go to gmail or gplus and you can chat with your buddies19:57
log!gtalk | p_19:57
ubottup_: Google Talk (GTalk) is an instant messaging program from Google. Currently, Google does not have an official standalone GTalk client for Linux, but supports connections from third-party clients such as !Pidgin and !Kopete | See http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html for more information19:57
Zehlemcb_ Cryptotheslow:Thanks for the answers! Yes it's an Apache log!19:57
xanguap_: if you mean a desktop messenger, empathy is the defaul im19:57
p_thanks19:58
ZehleSo is someone trying to hack it? :P19:58
Zehle...or something19:58
mcb_Zehle: Seens like someone is tring to pass commands to your system. Normaly it is not for the good.19:58
p_im new to ubuntu19:58
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cryptotheslowZehle, appears so. odd Apache seems to respond with a 200 code19:59
whonchI'm going to delete my firefox repository...19:59
Zehlemcb_: okey I see :/ How to prevent it? How to protect yourself? :)19:59
mallatest19:59
ZehleCryptotheslow: huh?19:59
mcb_Zehle:  Best bet for me would to idenfy the IP of who is trying it and then block it with Iptables.20:00
MrKeunerhello, is there an application that audits my system and warns/suggests about (possible) problems20:00
ZehleCruptotheslow: You mean that Apache has let it go thru?20:00
cryptotheslowZehle, I don't think you can prevent the requests. Make sure everything is patched up to date on the server and including all CMSs, bulletin boards etc etc that maybe on the webserver20:01
ZehleCryptotheslow: okej, so you can not just BLOCK the IP? :)20:01
cryptotheslowZehle, sure you can, but you have many IPs making such requests20:02
mcb_Zehle: As i saw in the log, i is comming from a lot of diferent IPs.20:02
ZehleAha, okej, so they aren't just using one pc :P Haha, I haven't read it that closely myself cause i'm not that good at it :)=20:02
AngabladeI was wondering what part of source I needed to modify to allow my processor to clock higher. anyone know?20:03
mcb_Zehle: Are you using an CMS, Joomla, Wordpress? If so, try to update as fast as you can, and never forget to backup.20:03
dlentzAngablade, OC'ing is done in BIOS..20:04
Zehlemcb_: My friend says that he doesn't use Joomla or wordpress and he doesnät know what CMS is20:04
AngabladeCMS: Content Managment System20:04
Zehleangablade:thanks20:05
AngabladeNo problem.20:05
ZehleWhat is Content management system?20:05
Angabladedlentz, thanks..20:05
Zehle^^20:06
AngabladeZehle, it's a set of scripts that allow you to edit in a wysiwyg editer on the site, rather than having to edit a html file20:06
AngabladeI wrote my own a few months ago.. Looks all nice.. XD20:06
ZehleHe's not running CMS :)20:07
mcb_Zehle: You can go to http://www.joomla.org/ and they will have a good expalnation.20:07
Zehlemcb_: Explanation for what?20:07
mcb_Zehle:  What is an CMS.20:07
mirko1A CMS is a software which manages the content of most "web-apps", ie. it manages products, customers, orders, members, posts, uploads, etc, see wikipedia for details20:07
AngabladeHell, wikipedia is a cms20:07
mirko1right20:07
Zehlemcb_: Okej, but I just kinda find out! :)20:08
ZehleMcb: Why did you ask about what he used then?20:08
ericusHey all! Is it OK to disable watchdog? And how would I do that?20:09
TeamRocket1233cHi!20:09
ericusHey TeamRocket1233c20:10
ZehleLitel54 vis the one with the probem, He knows most of the things we've talked about so keep the conversation with him!20:10
cryptotheslowZehle, because flaws in some CMS can allow attackers to upload executable files and other nasties, as can basic permissions mistakes.20:10
mcb_ Zehle: I just asked, because if you use a CMS, some of then has vunerabilities, and whoever is trying do mess with the site may be trying to explote some of those vulnerabilities. Thats all.20:11
ZehleAlright....:/20:11
cryptotheslowZehle, ...  hence why those things need to be constantly kept up to date20:11
Zehlemhm20:11
ZehleCryptotheslow mcb_: yeah, Isee :/20:11
ZehleThen It's basically just to keep it up to date :)20:11
ZehleNothing ells to do20:12
Zehleelse*20:12
cryptotheslowZehle, is the webserver showing any unexpected behaviour?20:12
Litel54My site has a download section, but the atackars havn't been to thoose files as it seems in the logs...20:12
mcb_Zehle: And keep whatch!20:12
ZehleLitel54 is the one that''s owning the webserver20:12
ZehleYes indeed!20:12
GhostConnhe guys im running 11:10 and win7 on dual boot using gnu grub 1.99... how would I manage to make it look like this lol............20:12
GhostConnhttp://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&biw=1920&bih=961&tbm=isch&tbnid=TN5IOezNboaHrM:&imgrefurl=http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/06/burgbeautify-your-bootloader.html&docid=ApTvI8485L3GNM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s1OLFTHL8Og/TCT6DhA48TI/AAAAAAAAAbo/Wqv2g1lPlqE/s1600/Radiance_for_Grub_2_BURG_by_shafin.png&w=640&h=481&ei=sodrT-_VBqq70QGv-tW9Bg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1624&vpy=180&dur=1571&hovh=1920:12
GhostConn5&hovw=259&tx=163&ty=97&sig=105596676466637203371&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:020:12
FloodBot1GhostConn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:12
cryptotheslowwth20:13
GhostConndidnt realize how big that link was SORRY!!! :(20:13
Litel54unexpected behaviour? Had some serious bandwith problems yesterday thought some one was dosing my server but nothing showen in the logs20:13
Guest87461Anyone know much about Airport Extreme on ubuntu. Does the PPC version of ubuntu 12.04 work out the box with that card ?20:14
mcb_ Litel54: It could be an sql injection attempt also. You should try to discover what is the code he is trying to use from all those Hex characters......20:14
Zehlemcb_: And how do you do that? Is there like an translator?20:14
mcb_Zehle: If someone know that, please give the link. :)20:14
cryptotheslowZehle, I just googled sections of it and the first thing that came up was a WebDAV proof of concept exploit in C :)20:15
Zehlemcb_:  Haha, it doesn't exist?20:15
mcb_Zehle: I just know that is possible to do that.20:15
oCeanLitel54: Zehle mcb_ cryptotheslow, Since this is really becoming offtopic (not issues with ubuntu software) may I suggest you move the discussion to a more appropriate channel? Such as ##security or maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic20:15
saquibm20:15
mcb_oCean: sorry.20:16
cryptotheslowsure oCean, sorry20:16
ZehleWhere to go then?20:16
oCeanno problem, thanks20:16
oCeanZehle: see my suggestion20:16
whonchok, installing firefox 12 beta in ubuntu 10.04, because of all the errors that 11 has20:16
Zehleocean: Yes ofcourse but you gave 2 alternatives! ;)20:16
cryptotheslowpick one20:16
Zehleofftopic20:17
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GhostConnis BURG better then GRUB BOOTLOADER20:17
log!better | GhostConn20:18
ubottuGhostConn: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.20:18
TimeKillaSup guys20:18
tomawakhello20:19
GhostConnok I have three hard drive installed on my computer, and to install BURG i need to find out what number my 250Gb drive is ? for example (hd0)20:20
GhostConni can only see it as dev/sda20:21
GhostConni need to know example (hd0) lol20:21
Guest87461Anyone know much about Airport Extreme on ubuntu. Does the PPC version of ubuntu 12.04 work out the box with that card ?20:22
oCeanGuest87461: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion20:22
mcb_GhostConn: hda are to old IDE drivers, all SATA, SATA II and SCSI devices appeaers as sda, sdb, etc.20:22
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Guest87461Well any previous mainstream releases, same question.20:23
mirko1on modern ubuntu's (since 9 or so) IDE drives are also sd*20:23
mcb_mirko1: Thanks for that, I didnt know that.20:24
mcb_mirko1: Some years since I last saw an IDE..... :)20:24
Guest87461GhostConn: fdisk -l20:24
mirko1mcb_: have still some in use. never belive that 5year myth! ;-)20:26
CacheMoneyI've been having trouble getting my bootloader to appear when restarting, so I'm reinstalling Ubuntu.  I'm on this step http://imagebin/204701 and I'm not sure which device to choose for boot loader installation20:26
ikoniaCacheMoney: put the boot loader on the boot disk - nothing else20:26
TheSimkini am displeased with grub + ubuntu20:27
TheSimkinwhy does ubuntu make a many hundreds of lines long grub config!?!?!20:27
ikoniaCacheMoney: keep your setup simple, the boot loader goes on the mbr of the boot disk, and the boot loader goes in the /boot partition20:27
jeroen__hello20:27
TheSimkinit seems ridiculous.20:27
ikoniaTheSimkin: it's not a good config, but it is the reality.20:27
TheSimkinikonia: but why20:27
jeroen__could someone tell me how i can change my keyboard settings in Xubuntu?20:27
TheSimkinwhat does it do?20:27
TheSimkinit doesn't even handle raid drives properly20:28
ikoniaTheSimkin: caters for a lot of options20:28
jeroen__i've got some layout problems20:28
TheSimkindoesn't seem to cater to anything special.  just obfustification :(20:28
ikoniaTheSimkin: what type of raid ?20:28
TheSimkinraid 120:28
ikoniaTheSimkin: it does cater for a lot of setups20:28
ikoniaTheSimkin: hardware/software/fakeraid20:28
TheSimkinmdadm20:28
ikoniaTheSimkin: works fine with mdadm created raid 120:29
hephhey guys, how can i modify the 'Ubuntu/Ubuntu 2D' selector at the graphical login prompt on oneiric? I want to make sure the window manager runs with 'optirun' prepended for my video card20:29
Guest87461If ubuntu 11.10 supports rt2870 ...would the same version but PPC also support that card ?20:29
ikoniaGuest87461: not always20:29
TheSimkinikonia: not from my experiences.. drive fails.. reboot some days later.. grub failures.20:29
jeroen__sorry, i cant fix my problem20:30
ikoniaTheSimkin: when you replace the drive and rebuild the array, you need to update grub,20:30
jeroen__would you guys be so kind?20:30
TheSimkinikonia: kinda hard to do when you can't boot.20:30
Guest87461ikonia: also, i need b43-fwcutter for my card. is it possible to obtain the packages needed to install it, without an internet connection.20:30
michal_I have Ubuntu 11.10.Netgear WNDA3100v2 not connecting to my network.When I disable password it works but when I switch bac security it's not working.My Security Mode:WPA-PSK WPA-PSK, Encryption:TKIP+AES, WPA-PSK Version:WPA+WPA2 an my own password letters and digits no spaces.Could anybody help me,please?20:30
TheSimkinikonia: i had to do all kinds of stuff to get it working, it was a real pain.20:30
ikoniaTheSimkin: you can boot on a raid1 failure, it's a mirror, your drive can fail and you should have no problems20:30
TheSimkini had no problems until rebooting.20:31
ikoniaTheSimkin: then you didn't mark the drive as failed properly.20:31
ikoniaTheSimkin: (from experience that is a common reason to have that problem)20:31
TheSimkini had to boot froma live instance and then go from there20:31
TheSimkinthe drive died and was removed.20:31
ikoniaTheSimkin: did you mark it as failed in mdadm ?20:31
TheSimkinwhat more would i have to do??20:31
jeroen__anyone?20:31
ikoniajeroen__: saying anyone is pointless.20:32
TheSimkincat /proc/mdstat already showed it as failed.20:32
cyclicfluxYooooo good day all!!20:32
ikoniaTheSimkin: you still have to mark it as failed20:32
jeroen__thanks for the help then20:32
ikoniaTheSimkin: /proc/mdstat shows it as failed, you use mdadm to mark it as failed.20:32
ikoniaTheSimkin: that way it changes the status of the array for the next boot20:32
TheSimkintaht's silly20:32
ikoniaTheSimkin: well, I suspect that's why you're having problems20:33
ljti'm experiencing an issue where seahorse just wont save any passwords, checking the keyring file shows no change when passwords are added. anyone else experienced that?20:33
TheSimkinwhat if the drive was rmoved while the computer is off!?!20:33
cyclicfluxI had a question, is there compatibility issues with reference to the graphic ipython libraries, and unity/gnome graphic libraries, as for the first time ever in two years I have had problems with ipython on a linux distro(ubuntu11.10) I have been using20:33
TheSimkini found the entire experience distasteful.20:33
ikoniaTheSimkin: then you may/may not have problems, it depends20:33
ikoniaTheSimkin: that's because you are not managing the software raid arrays correctly.20:33
TheSimkinnever had a problem with any other distro20:33
ikoniaTheSimkin: if you manage it cleanly, you'll have a very smooth ride20:33
TheSimkinincluding debian.20:34
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, yesssir20:34
TheSimkinalthough maybe they messed up debian now too, haven't used that in a while.20:34
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I have not used debian, just arch, gentoo, fedora, and slax20:34
TheSimkingentoo is the best by far cyclicflux20:34
TheSimkinnever have these kinds of problems20:34
ikoniaTheSimkin: worth keeping in the back of your mind for future use20:34
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I figured it was enough to use the generation20:34
TheSimkinbut it doesn't work so well if you need to have other admins :(20:34
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I will be installing it shooooortly20:35
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I was able however to get keepnote to work in gnome3(using xconsole)20:35
TheSimkini choose ubuntu in this particular case because the guys at the NOC where most familiar with it.20:35
ikoniacyclicflux: please keep in mind this is ubuntu support, not a linux chat channel20:35
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I just wanted to try it out, since it is the most widely used no-problem distro,  and of all distros it has called the most problems it seems20:36
ikoniacyclicflux: please keep in mind this is ubuntu support, not a linux chat channel20:36
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, However used bt5 R2, and that had none, and it was on debian.20:36
ikoniacyclicflux: stop20:36
ikoniacyclicflux: this channel is for ubuntu support only.20:37
cyclicfluxikonia, well can you help me with my problem?20:37
ikoniacyclicflux: no20:37
TheSimkinlol20:37
cyclicfluxikonia, lol!!!!!20:37
ikoniacyclicflux: I don't respond to people who just ignore what I'm saying20:37
cyclicfluxikonia, well then what about the rest of the web since you know what everyone else doesnt20:38
ikoniacyclicflux: I have no idea what you are on abuot "the rest of the web" but I tend to not help people (I see it as a reward) who just ignore what's being said to them,20:38
TheSimkincyclicflux: what is your problem, i'l take a whack at it20:39
sporkboyok. sansa e250 mp3 player. used to work fine. new laptop, old hdd. e250 only mounts with the sd card removed.20:41
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cyclicfluxThe Simkin, Basically I believe it has to do with the gtk+ variant of libraries, and it clashing with the gnome/unity libraries, when my 3D graphics card is in KMS mode20:42
michal_I have Ubuntu 11.10.Netgear WNDA3100v2 not connecting to my network.When I disable password it works but when I switch back security it's not working.My Security Mode: WPA-PSK WPA-PSK, Encryption:TKIP+AES, WPA-PSK Version:WPA+WPA2 an my own password letters and digits no spaces.Could anybody help me,please?20:42
rhizmoei've switched from gnome3 to xfce, but how can i get rid of the lame-style scroll thumbs?20:43
michal_I'm realy close to quit ubuntu at this stage.20:44
rhizmoethanks for sharing20:44
TheSimkincyclicflux: hmm, i have no idea what kms mode is sorry.20:44
michal_Once I have installed Fedora 16 and network worked without any problems20:44
victorghey folks :) how can I prevent 11.10/Unity from auto-mounting USB devices?  This doc does not seem to apply to 11.10 - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB20:45
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I will warn you however, I have gone through the following: re-installed ipython using purge, and then from there, apt-get make-depend with ipython, and that still didn't work, then I installed the various different libraries manually with all optional dependencies, then from there I went through the whole git repo of ipython to install(which has never failed), and then went through(Kernel Mode Settings, used to manage the 3d graphics card20:45
cyclicflux as opposed to x-windows(which I believe is why xconsole worked for keepnote-a python-based note taking application).) Then I installed all graphic libraries that unity/gnome3 uses from the git repositories20:45
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bittinwas trying to carry home a Sun Blade 2000 on the subway and failed so hard so i dropped it off in the bushes atleast got a hot usb mouse20:45
angswhat is the command to compile a c++ file?20:46
victorgangs: g++ -o outname source.cpp20:46
TheSimkincyclicflux: have you installed programs without using the package manager!??20:46
ewg++ foo.cpp -o foo20:46
angsthank you20:46
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, yes(from git manually compiling the most bleeding edge source) KMS takes the burden off of x-windows to manage the computers hardware20:47
ewplus whatever include paths, libraries, and whatever else flags you need20:47
michal_the best thing is that I have managed to install Lubuntu for my frien on his anciet DELL latitude20:47
michal_and I can't solwe my issue20:47
mirko1angs: also -Wall is good pratice!20:47
TheSimkincyclicflux: yah... that's a bad idea.20:48
TheSimkincyclicflux: using stuff not from the package manager in deb or rpm based systems always leads to serious problems.20:48
TheSimkincyclicflux: i think you should just use gentoo :)20:48
Maxquilmesbuenas20:48
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, for the graphic environments which is why keepnote(which didn't work in 3-D accelerated mode), ran in xconsole(which is the old-school terminal that is on the computer before installing any other types of graphic software), I haven't had any, and I am confident I could indeed handle any, as once using gentoo/archlinux, it is assumed you'll have to20:49
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TheSimkincyclicflux: in gentoo you can tell it to use bleeding edge stuff and it will organize accordingly.. even from git (version 9999)20:49
TheSimkincyclicflux: wrost case scenario you make your own ebuilds... not too tough at all.20:49
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, this problem however due to the close proximity of the code release, coupled with the vast amount of new code, and them not getting it taken care of.20:50
TheSimkincyclicflux: it's just not a good idea20:51
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cyclicfluxTheSimkin, just because the release is new, as well as the libraries, i.e. 3d support uses gnome-panel/unity-panel, whereas 2d/fallback uses metacity/x1120:51
bennypi want to make /tmp a ramdisk for a usb flash install. please advise on /etc/fstab line20:51
dlentzTheSimkin, i think you're exaggerating. people build stuff from sourceand use ppa's all of the time20:51
TheSimkindlentz: yes, then they get broken deps and come here like cyclicflux20:51
TheSimkinppas is fine, as it's using a repo20:51
dlentzTheSimkin, in y experience, ppa's can cause dependency problems just like source20:52
guntbertTheSimkin: I second your warning, but many ppas are totally unreliable too20:52
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, I'd agree but I am very familiar with compiling, and C++. But I didn't clone git until I went through all options. Plus, if you know sed+awk you can always parse the /var folder for the package cache and pipe that to a command to re-install everything back20:53
TheSimkindlentz: yes, i avoid it all as much as possible.20:53
* P1rate salutes20:53
TheSimkindlentz: but why are you saying i exagerate when you now seem to agree?20:53
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, then delete the git folder, so its easy to fix if you know what your doing, and at the very least you can read a 10 minute tutorial on the find command and do something similar20:53
mirko1bennyp: none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 020:53
TheSimkincyclicflux: as familiar as you are you're trying to make a binary distro work like a source based one.20:53
dlentzbecause i think the dependency issues are the exception to the rule20:54
Kingstonewhat's the difference between ubuntu server and desktop?20:54
CoreyKingstone: A GUI.20:54
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cyclicfluxTheSimkin, well you can already per the ubuntu community, see apt-build20:54
TheSimkincyclicflux: you culd always install an entire source tree and run your compiled code in there (chroot)20:54
Kingstonethat only corey?20:54
itaylor57Kingstone, server is w/o gui desktop has gui20:54
CoreyKingstone: Yup.20:54
Kingstonei can run all stuff on both?20:54
bennypmirko1: thanks20:55
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, true dat, didn't think of that though. But you can make it all source in ubuntu with the use of the stable apt-tool apt-build. I just found out about it a few weeks ago when switching20:55
dlentzTheSimkin, i guess i'm probably the wrong person to ask on source stuff because i use debia sid and compile git stuff all of the time :P20:55
TheSimkindlentz: can you help cyclicflux then?20:55
cyclicfluxdlentz, my man!!!!!20:55
TheSimkini'm inexperience and don't know how to help him.. all i see is issues with it.20:55
piotrek_siemanko20:56
TheSimkinwould loe to know the solution to this particular problem too20:56
guntbertcyclicflux: that discussion goes way beyond ubuntu support - please take it elsewhere20:56
piotrek_Hi20:56
dlentzcyclicflux, problem with ipython? can you elaborate?20:57
cyclicfluxTheSimkin, There is a solution use fallback/2d but on hackspace(where the open-source developers coordinate meetings with other people who develop majorly used software), ppl. are actually having meetings about this particular topic right now(as of march 21), with the ipython people. But in fallback/2d my desktop with tons of insane hardware freezes, and then shuts down.20:57
cyclicfluxdlentz, basically I am not able to get it to start20:58
cyclicfluxdlentz, would you like a link?20:58
dlentzi'll look at it, but i'm not a big python person20:58
cyclicfluxdlentz, also I am running ubuntu11.10, as well as gnome3, unity, and gnome-classic in the lightdm login20:59
hmmmm_hey guys20:59
hmmmm_i need a simple image crop program,20:59
cyclicfluxdlentz, actually, thanks but I have someone in ipython that just proposed something. Im off, enjoy the day!!!21:00
hmmmm_gimp is out the question. they couldnt have made it more retarded to use.21:00
cyclicfluxthanks all!!!!21:00
dlentzcyclicflux, good luck21:00
dlentzi know gimp has a lot of complexity, but it's still fairly easy to crop an image21:01
mirko1hmmmm_:  what exactly do you find retarded in gimp or its cropping function? perhaps display from ImageMagick?21:01
mull3t234shotwell21:01
GhostConnok how would i install burg on my hdd..... my hdd with the mrb is    /dev/sda   im trying to follow a online tutorial and this is what i have21:02
GhostConn    sudo burg-install "(hd0)"21:02
TheSimkingimp is perfect for cropping? what is wrong with it hmmmm_???21:02
hmmmm_well i couldnt figure it out at first.  believe me i looked for it. googled it too. absolute ****, i will check ImageMagick, cheers21:02
TheSimkinhmmmm_: krita is easy to use21:02
kizdoes anyone know where crontab gets the email for the user when it tries to send out error messages? Or is it always just USER@HOST?21:02
ikoniakiz: it's localmail, not email, so it's user@host21:03
GhostConnshould i use     sudo burg-install "(dev/sda)"21:03
ikoniakiz: there is a parameter you can setup to send it to QFDN addresses21:04
ikoniaGhostConn: why are you using burg and not grub ?21:04
mirko1notice that ImageMagick's display might feel a liitle strange, more like a classic Unix program. cropping in gimp is really simple, click the crop utility button, select the area and click into it, done.21:04
TheSimkinmirko1: i agree, i dunno how much easier it can get.21:05
vaziliJops->>21:05
meerkatscan anyone help me to restore files? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11785238#post1178523821:05
GhostConni like the looks of burg rather then grub with simple text...21:06
kizikonia: thanks. And yeah I know about the parameter, just curious about normal behavious. I guess it's up to the mail agent to decide how to route it after that?21:06
ikoniakiz: only if you set to an FQDN, otherwise it's just user@host21:06
kizroger21:07
GhostConnikonia   if my mbr is located on /dev/sda    how would i fix this command to install burg      sudo burg-install "(hd0)"21:08
robb4nHi, Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and have tried to fix Compiz with Emerald. But When I start emerald everythings works.. except gnome 3 top bar dissapear and I cant move my windows.. but stil can open applications. Anyone knows why this happends?21:08
robb4nI dont even get any error21:08
ikoniaGhostConn: what do you need to "fix" ?21:08
guntbert!emerald | robb4n21:08
ubotturobb4n: emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.21:08
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robb4nguntbert: Okey21:09
GhostConnikonia     i was told that hd0 is for a ide drive and my master boot record is on my 250gb drive which is /dev/sda21:09
ikoniaGhostConn: you where told wrong, grub uses it's own naming conventions for devices.21:10
GhostConnWOW iv been sitting hear for EVER21:10
mirko1no hd0 is just grub's notation for the first drive which sda is Linux' notation for the same. hd0 == sda, hd1 == sdb and so on21:10
GhostConnlol thanks so how would i tell if my mbr is located on hd021:10
GhostConni have threee hdds instaleld21:10
ikoniaGhostConn: upi kist dod. hd0 = hd021:11
ikoniaoops21:11
ikoniaGhostConn: you just did hd0 = hd0 - first disk21:11
GhostConnok thanks everyone i feel like a complete retard now lol21:11
ikoniaGhostConn: can you please stop saying "retard" I've asked you a few times now21:12
login25french people here ?21:12
Farfadayouai21:12
ikonialogin25: lots in #ubuntu-fr21:12
login25salut farfaday21:12
droid-0854GhostConn,  I feel like that often.21:12
GhostConnyou're kidding me lol you just mentioned that check the log ikonia21:12
guntbertlogin25: this channel is english language only21:13
GhostConnwow21:13
login25mmmm21:13
ikoniaGhostConn: no - I'm not kidding21:13
login25ok21:13
Chris_MoneyWhats goof bitches21:13
login25do you know any french channel ?21:13
ikoniaChris_Money: your language - it is unacceptable21:13
GhostConnwell then don't lie and say you asked me already because you havn't21:13
ikonialogin25: #ubuntu-fr as I've told you21:13
ikoniaGhostConn: I asked you yesterday when you where ranting21:14
Chris_MoneyIkoni: I'll tone it down21:14
ikoniaChris_Money: thanks, appreciated21:14
login25mmm21:14
login25ok21:14
Xabsterlinux's alternative to daemon tools to mount iso images?21:14
login25so can i ask you anyway if you know airpwn ?21:14
guntbertGhostConn: how about you tone down a little too21:14
ikoniaXabster: don't need a tool21:14
guntbert!ask | login2521:14
ubottulogin25: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:14
Xabsteroh?21:14
ikoniaXabster: you can mount an idso "mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/point"21:15
GhostConnanyways this is what im getting21:15
GhostConnghostconn@GhostConn00:~$ sudo burg-install "(hd0)"21:15
GhostConnsudo: burg-install: command not found21:15
ikoniaGhostConn: a command needs to be there before you can use it21:15
Xabsteris there no gui for it, ikonia ?21:15
llamahawkso on the fresh install of 11.10. my mouse pad scrolling buttons wont do a continuous scroll. i need to spam the button to get it to scroll21:15
Xabsteri'm newbie21:15
login25Do somebody know howto install airpwn ?21:15
llamahawkthis is just picky issue though21:15
Chris_Moneyfuck21:15
ikoniaXabster: actually, I don't know, try right clicking on the iso image, see if it offers to mount it21:15
Xabsterit doesn't, ikonia, it defaults to brasero burner21:16
GhostConni dont understand a command is that not the command21:16
ikoniaGhostConn: is that command installed on your system ?21:16
almoxarifemy machine has an odd quirk, the 'c' character needs to be depressed twice to function on startup, boot or return from suspend, there may be other keys that are also effected but I have not noticed, its not intermittent loss of the key as I won't notice it again until a reboot or return from suspend, any thoughts? no log entries are created either21:16
mirko1Xabster:  AcetoneISO can do that21:16
ikoniaXabster: that's a shame, just mount it manually21:16
GhostConnikonia please look  im following this http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.ca/2010/06/burgbeautify-your-bootloader.html21:17
cryptotheslowlogin25, Walkthrough here: http://timashley.me/node/10021:17
GhostConni did the first two steps21:17
guntbertGhostConn: as far as I can see burg is not in the repos - so probably not supported here21:17
ikoniaGhostConn: I'm not following your link, I'm asking is that command installed on your machine21:17
ikoniaGhostConn: I strongly advise you not to use external guides21:17
ikonia!info burg21:17
ubottuPackage burg does not exist in oneiric21:17
ikoniaGhostConn: have you installed burg ?21:17
ikoniaguntbert: PPA......21:18
GhostConnthis is all i have done so far these two commands21:18
GhostConn    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bean123ch/burg21:18
GhostConn    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install burg burg-themes21:18
ikoniaGhostConn: not what I asked21:18
meerkatscant I, via command line, restore files from the .trash directory in a usb HDD to their original position, also in the usb HDD?21:18
ikoniaGhostConn: have you installed burg21:18
ikoniameerkats: "no"21:18
meerkatsI dont understand why, if the deleted files are still in the USB HDD, cannot be restored21:19
GhostConnno i guess not so   sudo apt-get install burg?21:19
GhostConnim so sorry honestly21:19
ikoniameerkats: because the command line has no awareness of your desktop, so therefore doesn't know about their previous locations21:19
* almoxarife does not understand the point of 'beautiful boot loading', it's a minor step in the whole process21:19
ikoniaalmoxarife: it's a pointless thing to install, especially if you are not confident with what you are doing21:19
ikoniaGhostConn: with respect, it's clear you are not sure of what you are even doing, I'd suggest not playing with important components like the bootloader21:20
almoxarifeikonia: that was harsh, but true :)21:20
TheSimkinmeerkats: what format is the hard disk?21:22
meerkatsI neither understand why you can sedn files inside a .trash-1000/files to the actual trash...21:22
TheSimkinyou might be able to use other undeletion tools21:22
drewhHello everyone. I'm running 11.10 on an Asus P50IJ I'm having a few issues (headphones don't mute speakers, screen brightness doesn't work) but right now I'm looking for help on dual monitors, my second screen works, but there are some graphic errors and my mouse pointer doesn't render on the second screen... any help = thanks21:22
meerkatsext4 TheSimkin21:22
ikoniameerkats: the short answer is "you need to manually move them with the command line to where you want"21:22
TheSimkinmeerkats: too bad for you!21:22
ikoniameerkats: you've been asking this for hours - the sooner you accept it and get on with it, the quicker you'll get it done21:22
* almoxarife would love to see a grub setup that zips thru the process the fastest possible21:23
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GhostConnunderstandable... however to install BURG to my mbr i need to enter this command   sudo burg-install "(hd0)"   i tried that after adding the repositories and it wont work... all im asking is ifthe command is wrong because im unsure of where my mbr is located. from my understanding its located on /dev/sda   as far as a disk numer i don't know ?  example "hd0"21:23
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ikoniaGhostConn: is burg-install on your machine ?21:23
almoxarifehd0?21:23
almoxarifeburg is a win front end?21:23
ikoniaalmoxarife: no, it's a pactched version of grub bascially21:24
meerkatscan anyone explain why you can send files inside a .trash-1000/files to the actual trash?21:24
Xabsterikonia, it says that "mount point" does not exist...?21:24
GhostConnyes21:24
ikoniaGhostConn: so what is the error you are getting21:24
ikoniameerkats: what are you talking about ?21:24
ikoniaXabster: mount it on a mount point that exists21:24
gaussblurinchello! is it possible to create widget under lxde?21:24
almoxarifemeerkats: can or can't?21:25
wyldeGhostConn: I honestly think you should take ikonia's advice about not playing with your bootloader. Not to mentio BURG is *NOT* an official ubuntu package, so essentially not supported here.21:25
mirko1GhostConn:  "adding the repositories" is not installing the software. if you haven't used synaptic, Software Center, apt-get, aptitude, ... to install burg you will get nowhere. anyway, burg can damage your booting, you shouldn't use it without some more experiences. afterall it's just some cool looking nonsense ;-)21:25
meerkatsikonia, there is, inside the USB HDD a .trash1000 folder with all the files. I thought it would behave like the normal trash, hence with purge and restore options, but to my surprise I can actually send files from .trash1000 to "trash"21:25
ikoniameerkats: ok, so what's the problem ?21:25
guntbertmeerkats: all trash bins are just folders21:26
almoxarife.tashxxxxx <-- its called that for a reason21:26
red_onewhat's the best channel to discuss precise beta1?21:26
almoxarifetrash21:26
ikoniared_one: #ubuntu+121:27
aguitelhow upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10 with command line ?21:28
Xabsterikonia, i would love to...21:28
Xabsterbut what the hell is that21:28
ikoniaaguitel: you can't21:28
ikoniaXabster: just a directory to mount the iso image on21:28
ikoniaXabster: I used /mnt/iso as an example21:28
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GhostConnok upon installing burg i came to this   The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or  │21:30
GhostConn │ the `kopt' parameter in GRUB Legacy's menu.lst.  Please verify that it    │21:30
GhostConn │ is correct, and modify it if necessary.21:30
ikoniaGhostConn: ok and ?21:30
GhostConnwhat should i do21:30
ikoniaGhostConn: you should stop trying to use burg and use grub so you don't wreck your system and ask this channel how to fix it21:31
wyldeGhostConn: considering it's not an official Ubuntu PPA you're installing from it's not supported here anyway.21:31
GhostConni have figured it out and choose what dev im sorry for wasting everyone's time21:31
ikoniano problem21:32
almoxarifedo I need to include the kernel headers on a straight forward install?21:32
ikoniaalmoxarife: depends what you are doing21:33
ikoniaalmoxarife: the default install will sort it out, it shouldn't ask you21:33
almoxarifeikonia: so if they are needed they are called for? I thought they were there because of dkms ans virtualbox before21:34
possible1994I want to make a very simple FTP or HTTP server, what do I install?21:34
possible1994I just want my Public dir accessible via IP21:35
itaylor57possible1994, lamp would be a good choice21:35
itaylor57possible1994, ssh is way better than using ftp21:35
shenraguys on ubuntu 11.10, using ext4 filesystem, i have problems that when i copy large files from usb onto the harddrive or vise versa, it causes applications to hang and crash.21:36
possible1994itaylor57: It needs to be cross plat-form seamless for my clients21:36
yobambaftp = for the public21:36
possible1994lol21:36
possible1994I just want a URL that people can type in and access the dir and it's contents21:37
GhostConnafter all that time I still have grub.......... :(     i know laugh it up21:37
jonnymotorciao21:37
shenralibreoffice and firefox was locking up during the file transfer.  is there anything i can do to make ubuntu more responsive while transferring files?21:37
jonnymotor!list21:37
ubottujonnymotor: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».21:37
tmmy java doesnt work browser chrome w vista. if i install luntubu, does it solve the problem? i cant play chess atm21:37
mirko1possible1994:  don't setup a public server without knowing what you're doing! Maybe dropbox can do what you want.21:38
itaylor57tm, what url to play chess are you accessing?21:38
tmplayok.com21:38
tmnice website :p21:38
ikoniatm: please don't spam here21:39
itaylor57ikonia, i was asking him for the web site so i couldhelp him resolve his browser problem21:40
ikoniaitaylor57: thanks, my apologies21:40
itaylor57tm, i can play it find using chromium and firefox21:40
_Marcustm: I read your problem, you are running Vista?21:41
itaylor57tm, sorry i misread your problem21:41
CacheMoneyI reinstalled Ubuntu and got this message when I restarted "error: no suck partition.  grub rescue> _ "  What should I do?21:41
ikoniaCacheMoney: your grub is pointing at a partition that doesn't exist21:42
CacheMoneyikonia:  How should I proceed?  Not sure what to do on this black screen..21:42
ikoniaCacheMoney: what's happened to your install to cause this ?21:43
Taevhow can i set it up so that on boot the computer executes a series of simple commands like /home/djs/eggdrop/eggdrop -n eggdrop.conf21:43
Drajwerhow can I force my ubuntu VM to recognize hot added memory?21:44
ikonia!session | Taev21:44
ubottuTaev: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot21:44
ikoniaDrajwer: you don't21:44
CacheMoneyi couldn't get the bootloader to come up, so we tried reinstalling Ubuntu and choosing to install the bootloader to /dev/sda (instead of a specific partition)21:44
Drajwerikonia: why not ?21:44
ikoniaDrajwer: you need to restart it21:44
ikoniaDrajwer: because it's not a dynamic technology21:44
yobambahot added memory?21:44
Taevand where might I find it on KDE on 8.0421:44
ikoniaCacheMoney: grub should go on a device not a partition, so /dev/sda (or /dev/sdb (what ever your device is is )) is the correct approach21:45
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Drajwerikonia: it works well with enabling hot added CPU, but scripts for CentOS/SLES just does not work as there is no /sys/devices/system/memory21:45
ikoniaTaev: no idea in kde where that is21:45
almoxarifetavasti: look at system > startup > script (you get to add it there)21:45
ikoniaDrajwer: can't do it with memory21:45
CacheMoneyikonia:  Well, that's what I did and when I restarted I was presented with a black screen stating, "error: no such partition."21:45
ikoniaCacheMoney: how many disks to you have ?21:46
Drajweris there any workaround for this?21:46
ikoniaDrajwer: restart your virtual machine21:46
almoxarifeTaev:  look at system > startup > script (you get to add it there)21:46
Drajwerwithout restaring21:46
ikoniaDrajwer: no21:46
CacheMoney1TB HD (Windows partition and Ubuntu partition) and 8GB SSD => It's a new Samsung Series 7 Laptop21:47
ikoniaCacheMoney: so two hard disks in your machine ?21:47
CacheMoneyhttp://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=samsung+series+7&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10259595134271245415&sa=X&ei=7J1rT8jlEeHYiQKZn5iUBQ&ved=0CH8Q8wIwBQ21:47
ikoniaCacheMoney: please just answer the question21:47
CacheMoneyikonia:  that's what Disk Utility told me..21:47
ikoniaCacheMoney: no - I'm asking you21:48
ikoniaCacheMoney: how many hard disk are in the machine - not what you think, what disk utility tells, how many factual physical hard disks are in the machine21:48
yobambaikonia: he's not a computer21:48
ikoniayobamba: I didn't say he was21:48
ikoniait's a perfectly reasonable question, how many hard disks are in the machine21:49
ikoniainfact, I've lost interest now,21:49
yobambaikonia: but he's not a computer21:49
ikoniagood luck21:49
CacheMoneyI believe it has two disks, do you want me to open it up and check?21:49
DrajwerOK. found the answer by myself. Ubuntu kernel config does not allow memory hotplugging by default21:49
ikoniaDrajwer: I told you this21:49
Drajweryou said 'no'21:49
ikoniaDrajwer: you didn't "find the answer" I've just told you21:49
ikoniaDrajwer: correct, the answer to your question is no21:49
ikoniaDrajwer: I told you it is not a hot plugable option21:49
CacheMoneyikonia:  it might have just been the RAM i was looking at..21:50
yobambaCacheMoney: why did you do that?21:50
ikoniaCacheMoney: I'm sure someone else will help you,21:50
CacheMoneyyobamba: why did I do what?21:50
Drajwer'no' is not an descriptive answer, and obviously is not true21:50
ikoniaDrajwer: I told you - "it's not a hot plugable technology"21:50
yobambaCacheMoney: looking at the ram21:50
ikonia21:44 < Drajwer> ikonia: why not ?21:51
ikonia21:44 < ikonia> Drajwer: because it's not a dynamic technology21:51
almoxarifemy dog smells a troll21:51
CacheMoneyyobamba: i never opened my computer.  I was looking through Disk Utility to find which partition Ubuntu was originally installed on21:51
Rockyhello all i just install the latest ubuntu on my dell dimension 3000 and i got a message saying that my intel driver may not have full support, and the screen is very glichy and what not. is there a way i can start it up in a very basic vga mode ?21:51
Drajwerwhy its not a dynamic technology ?21:51
yobambaalmoxarife: my troll smells a dog21:52
ikoniaDrajwer: because it's not enabled to be so21:52
CluberWhat the top taskbar called, with "Applications, Places, System". It's somehow dissapeared, how do I get it back up again?21:52
ikoniaDrajwer: you have your answer, now it's up to you to decide how to manage it21:52
yobambaikonia: are you sure that the technology doesn't exist somewhere?21:53
CacheMoneyI'm just wondering if I'm going to fuck something up by turning off my computer with this black screen "error: no such partition."21:53
ikoniayobamba: what ?21:53
almoxarifeCluber: disappeared? explain21:53
ikoniaCacheMoney: please don't down that language21:53
raynerdHi guys, I`ve installed linux ubuntu on a windows system before but I must install windows onto a current linux only system. for one reason or another, I must keep windows and have it dual boot. I`m not very well up on computers but is there any method I can use so that I ensure I get the boot option at the startup ?21:53
Drajweryeah found it and the corresponding kernel config values I might do separate VM template with mem hot-add kernel21:53
CacheMoneyikonia:  i apologize21:53
ikoniaCacheMoney: "tone down" sorry21:53
ikoniaCacheMoney: no problem21:53
ikoniaDrajwer: I believe you'll find it won't work, but you're welcome to try it21:54
yobambaikonia: "hot added memory"21:54
ikoniayobamba: what about it ?21:54
yobambaikonia: are you sure that it doesn't exist?21:54
CacheMoneyikonia: how should I exit the black screen saying, "grub rescue> _ "21:54
ikoniayobamba: I never said it doesn't exist21:54
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red_onewhat's the best way to display/control my laptop cpu fan?21:54
ikoniaCacheMoney: I've said I'm not interested in progressing at this time, I'm doing other things21:54
Drajwerikonia: it works, believe me21:54
yobambaikonia: ah, but you're saying what?21:54
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ikoniaDrajwer: then why are you asking how to do it if you know it works ?21:55
CacheMoneyikonia:  okay21:55
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raynerdanyone :(21:55
ikoniayobamba: in Drajwer's config that he stated when he joined the channel that it is not a dyanmic option, he will need to reboot21:55
Drajwerbecause it does not work on Ubuntu, and works on (for example) CentOS21:55
ikoniaraynerd: saying anyone is pointless21:55
raynerdin what way is it pointless?21:55
RockyCan anyone help me ?21:55
mirko1Drajwer: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#guestadd-balloon21:55
ikoniaDrajwer: try it, I hope it does work for you21:55
yobambaikonia: ah, alright21:55
CacheMoneyanyone know how to do a grub rescue?21:55
Taevwill this trigger those programs to start upon login, this is my $HOME/.profile  file21:56
Taevhttp://pastebin.com/AVQ7VjWf21:56
ikoniaraynerd: 1.) if someone didn't see the question "anyone" doesn't tell them the question 2.) if someone saw the question and can answer it but chose not to "anyone" wont' make them respond 3.) if someone saw the question and doesn't know the answer "anyone" will not make them know the answer21:56
Drajwerikonia: i dont like virtualbox, and the questio nwas about forcing OS to recognize the newly added mem21:56
Drajweroh well it was for mirko121:56
raynerdbut with respect, surely it may provoke a reply... it might not... but gives me something to write while I sit here watching my screen21:56
ikoniaraynerd: or it just posts pointless noise to the channel, ask the question, wait for an answer, no answer, wait 15 minutes and ask again21:57
yobambamaybe someone's name is anyone21:57
RockyMy intel onboard gfx card is not supported by the new version of ubuntu is there a way i can start ubuntu up in a basic VGA mode ?21:57
raynerdlikewise in the constant refreshing of the screen, it might show someone that I posted a message that they missed...no?21:57
ikoniaraynerd: no21:57
meerkatshow do I see hidden files from the terminal?21:58
ikoniameerkats: ls -la21:58
raynerdI don`t understand "no".  Well it couldn`t, couldn`t it. So there is no, "no", about it.21:58
Taevwill this http://pastebin.com/AVQ7VjWf   (copy of my $HOME/.profile ) work in making those 3 programs execute upon login21:58
cryptotheslowraynerd, basically you need to back up grub, make space for the windows install (preferably at the start of drive), install windows, use an Ubuntu LiveCD to do a grub recovery, pray. This should help. Be careful if you already have 4 primary partitions. Ask again in that instance. This may help you http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm21:59
ikoniaraynerd: sorry, I'll try again. "please don't randomly say "anyone", ask the question, wait for a response, if no-one responds, try again in 15 minutes. Thanks21:59
raynerdlol...crtptotheslow... :D  cheers pal. No clue what it means but will read a few times and do some googling. Cheers pal!21:59
mirko1Taev: probably not. at least on my 10.04 there's no login shell involved in the GUI startup. just write a simple shell script and call it using the Startup facility21:59
yobambahow to display file size in bits?21:59
Taevthis 8.0422:00
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ikoniayobamba: I think the smallest you can do is bytes22:00
cryptotheslowraynerd, it's not too hard to do as long as you haven't run out or primary partitions.22:00
ikoniayobamba: (unless you use a special tool) but ls can only do bytes I think, man ls to check22:00
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mirko1and since bytes are 8 bits on all of our machines, just multipy by 822:01
yobambaikonia: darnit, so then i do have to talk to the coreutils/busybox guys about adding it. bits is the only sensible way, no more confusion.22:01
raynerdI`m not really a big linux user but I am blown away with linuxcnc / emc2 and I have it up and running. In some respects however, it may just be easier to blank the drive, install windows and then linux with linuxcnc on top.22:01
ikoniayobamba: check man ls or follow mirko1's suggestion22:01
almoxarifehttp://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ <--- that link is the simplest (I like simple) gui (love gui) method to restore windows bootloader or grub or both, and it works!!!!!!!!!!22:02
ikoniaalmoxarife: who are you talking to ?22:02
cryptotheslowraynerd, installing windows first is the easier option. Depends how much time you have put into getting your exiting linux just right22:02
yobambaikonia: aye. but there are machines where a byte (we should stop using that term) is not 8 bits.22:02
almoxarifeikonia: raynerd I think22:02
mirko1yobamba: right, in the museum ;-)22:02
raynerdyes, quite a lot and it has been tempremental (spelling?) !!22:03
yobambamirko1: or in the future.22:03
yobambamirko1: which is now..22:03
raynerdalexarife... may be worth downloading and giving that a go. cheers.22:03
almoxariferaynerd: cheers, back at you22:04
mirko1where a byte might also be a green painted quantum with a left-right 1/2 spin under the top-flip. so, about what are we talking ;-) seriously, it's *REALLY* unlikely that the size of bytes with change anytime soon22:04
* raynerd slaps ikonia around a bit with a large trout22:04
almoxariferaynerd: not a good idea22:05
cryptotheslowraynerd, brave22:05
alkisgWhen installing phpmyadmin, dbconfig-common shows a debconf question for a root password when ran from the console. If ran from software-center, that question is hidden, resulting in an error+endless retry loop. Which priorities software-center hides by default? The "low" ones?22:05
raynerdlol, what the hell is that all about... ! slaps with a large trout??!?22:05
meegooois it possilbe to see threads of firefox by $ ps ?22:05
cryptotheslowmeegoo,  ps aux | grep firefox22:05
cryptotheslowmeegooo, ^22:06
yobambamirko1: bits is the only sensible way to count things, they are either on or off.22:06
almoxarifeis there a gui for bind stats? that works? bindgraph does not22:06
meegooocryptotheslow: each tab in firefox is a thread right ? but ps shows just the parent process22:06
Lunar_Landerhi there22:07
Lunar_Landergot a 11.10 post-installation problem: installed, ran updates, then went to the language menue for downloading the language packs22:07
ibodimy u10.04 can see all neighbours wireless, but not my own, however i can connect to wired. my windows can use both.22:07
yobambamirko1: it's the lowest common denominator. to count in bytes of 8, and then 1024 or 1000 (preferably 1000), and that whole mess, is just stupid.22:07
Lunar_Landernow after every restart that window "Your language packs seem to be incomplete..." appears22:07
ibodiplease help howto?22:08
Lunar_Landerwhen I click on "do that action now", i get to the language window, but he doensn't find any uninstalled language packs22:08
Lunar_Landerflawed installation maybe?22:08
cryptotheslowmeegooo, not sure about that. This just gives me one firefox process and one firefox flashplugin container   ps axms | grep firefox | more22:08
ibodiand i have wireless in other house working properly.22:09
meerkatsis this a good place to ask about the restore command included in the "dump" app?22:09
raynerdcan anyone on here explain what realtime is...and why apparently windows can`t run in realtime and linux can?22:09
cryptotheslowmeerkats, just ask and find out22:09
ikoniameerkats: you can try - but if you are trying to restore from the USB trash to the origional locations as before, please stop wasting your time and just do it manually22:09
Lunar_Landerare there any suggestions?22:10
mirko1yobamba: in theory correct, in practice, if you find a file where the 8 bits = 1 byte rule doesn't apply, I'll spend you a whole box of beer. anyway, too much OT. let's stop.22:10
meegooocryptotheslow: somebody told me that's possible just on Mac !!!22:10
cryptotheslowmeegooo, what is?22:10
meegooo cryptotheslow: i mean killing firefox threads !22:11
flamenhola22:11
raynerdbonjour22:11
meegooo cryptotheslow: but first you should find them by ps22:11
meerkatsikonia, I appreciate your interest, but Id like to look for other points of view, wait 2 or 3 days to see if somebody replies to my thread...22:12
ikoniameerkats: you've wasted hours, why not waste some days, good luck22:13
Lunar_Landerto repeat: I installed ubuntu, then ran the updates, then installed the language packs, still it complains about "Your language packs seem to be incomplete..."22:13
yobambamirko1: why remain? if we decide to change that landscape to whatever number of bits in a byte for whatever better purpose then we all have to learn anew what size a byte is. so nah, bits is the best way, no fuss, no pus.22:13
Lunar_Landerany idea on that?22:13
cryptotheslowmeegooo, I honestly don't know. I seem to remember something about tabs running in different threads. Doesn't look like it to me - but I'm no expert :)22:15
Lunar_LanderOK, is there an extra support chat/channel?22:15
GhostConnlunar_lander you're best bet is google lol22:16
Lunar_Landerok22:16
cryptotheslowLunar_Lander, paid support from Canonical :D Or post it up on ubuntuforums.org and have some patience :)22:17
almoxarifeLunar_Lander: what language?22:18
Lunar_Landergerman22:18
Lunar_LanderI just found a thread on the forums22:18
Lunar_Landerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130790222:18
Lunar_LanderI now tried that, select "German" and "Apply System wide"22:19
Lunar_Landerwill see if that has helped22:19
Praximan I unsuccesfully tried to install gimp 2.7.5, did my best to uninstall it, but now I can't get 2.6 to run hehe22:23
zykotick9"22:25
haz3lnutPraxi: did you purge?22:26
haz3lnutPraxi: also try rm -Rf .gimp*22:26
aboudreaultHi. I'm looking for a simple example how to do a start/stop script (/etc/init.d) that uses daemon to start something.22:28
devsysHi all, have a bit of a networking related issue. I have a ubuntu server which had a single nic card in it. All was working great. Then I added a second card as I need to have the server on a different network as well, although this network is not routable to the internet or anything like that, so I need the server to still use the original connection's gateway. The problem seems to be that22:30
devsysonce I added a static IP and netmask (no gateway) to the new nic, the server cannot get out to the internet anymore. I suspect a default route is incorrectly set or something, but am not sure where to look.22:30
mirko1aboudreault: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 but notice that classic SysV init scripts are obsolte on Ubuntu (and it seems that other mainstream distros slowly follow)22:30
mirakhello22:30
vltdevsys: What does `ip r` tell you?22:31
aboudreaultmirko1, yeah, that script is simple since it doesn't show how to keep the pid id to stop the daemon etc....22:32
mirakI have a failed disk on a mdam raid 1. the problem is that i can't boot at all, when the disk is physically connected. But if i remove it, i drop to busy box, and here i don't see how i can set the dead disk as failed since it's not connected22:32
doug_fIs simply remounting a root filesystem read-only enough to ensure a safe dd image of a drive?22:32
vltmirak: When starting the array with only one member it will be marked as degraded.22:33
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mirko1aboudreault: put the pid into a file in /var/run/name_of_your_service that's how almost all others do it22:34
devsysvlt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/895755/     10.10.10.0/24 is the network that routes to the internet22:34
aboudreaultmirko1, that's some kind of example I want22:34
mirakvlt, ok but i rember having set an option for the system to boot anyway22:34
mirakremember22:35
vltdevsys: Remove the default via 192...22:35
mirakvlt, can i force it to boot anyway ? I have not a spare drive around22:35
vltmirak: Is your “/” on the md device?22:35
mirakvlt, yes22:35
devsysvlt: ugh I wondered if that was it22:35
vltdevsys: `ip r d 192...`22:36
vltmirak: What does your grub kernel command line say about where the rootfs is?22:37
mirakmy roofts is on a lvm22:38
mirakvlt, i think i can boot a livecd probably, but well, it should boot disgraded22:38
vltmirak: Ok, I have several machines with a setup exactly like that. I wonder why you get to the busybox shell.22:39
mirakvlt, my setup is gpt partitioning, mdraid1 on a full partition, and LVM in that partition22:40
Hans_Henriki need php to have full read-write access to every file in /var/www/ and down.. how can i make sure php get those rights? (right now im getting Warning: fopen(../config/config.ini) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/install/install.php on line 7   )22:40
mirakhelp :/22:41
ljtHans_Henrik: depends on what user php is being run with..22:41
Hans_Henrikljt: apt-get install apache2 php522:42
ljtthrough apache?22:42
devsysvlt: I get a "RTNETLINK answers: No such process" when running ip r d 192.168.1.122:42
ljtthen the user will be www-data22:42
Hans_Henrikljt: yes i think thats correct22:42
ljtHans_Henrik: can you not chgrp all files in /var/www to www-data?22:44
vltdevsys: Sorry, try `ip r d default via 192.168.1.1`22:44
Hans_Henrikljt: (idk how to give the user www-data full read/write access to /var/www )22:44
jostenI need a little22:44
Hans_Henrikljt: ill try22:44
jostenhelp22:44
ljtHans_Henrik: do this: chrgrp -R www-data /var/www22:44
Hans_Henrikljt: thank you22:45
vltmirak: What exactly do you want to do?22:45
mirakvlt, boot22:45
vltmirak: Ok.22:45
mirakvlt, I found a solution here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/12547122:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 120375 in mdadm (Ubuntu Hardy) "duplicate for #125471 cannot boot raid1 with only one disk" [Medium,Fix released]22:45
mirakbut not tried it yet22:45
mirakvlt, i will need to buy another drive but I will see that later22:45
mirakvlt, of course my driver failed when prices are high :/22:46
vltmirak: It MUST be possible to boot. The bug seems to be Ubuntu specific.22:46
ljtHans_Henrik: depending on existing permissions you may also need to: chmod -R g+rw /var/www22:46
physically_fitSputnik_, nice nickname22:46
Hans_Henrikljt: was just about to say i still got permission denied22:46
mirakit seems it's from 11.10. i have also a 10.4 i should be able to boot22:46
vltmirak: Does any /dev/mdx exist in busybox?22:46
meerkatsikonia, lets say I finally give up and start to manually copy the 4000 files, will information such as year, name of album, name of composer still be in every file?22:46
mirakvlt, yes22:47
Hans_Henrikljt: And now it works, thank you22:47
ljtHans_Henrik: glad I could help :)22:47
ikoniameerkats: the files won't have changed22:47
vltmirak: And are LVs started?22:47
meerkatsikonia, just the tedious job of relocation 4000 files, one by one...22:47
vltmirak: `lvm lvs` in busybox22:47
jostenAnyone know how to set user accounts that can't see each others files? Right now standard users can go into each others directories and view files but not edit them.  I don't want other users to even see my files or anything I have.  I am the admin and this is my computer at home.22:47
meerkatsrelocating*22:48
ikoniameerkats: yes, it is22:48
meerkatsf*ck22:48
zykotick9josten: change the permission on /home/USER directory22:48
Sputnik_hi22:48
mirakvlt, i try to boot my lucid first right now22:48
lessshasteI would like to make a full screen log in to a remote ubuntu box (from windows). What should I run at the linux end?22:49
mirakdamn, it goes to busybox too22:49
ljtjosten: chmod o-rwx /home/USER22:49
lessshastewhat should I run on the ubuntu machine? vnc?22:49
angswhat is the use of echo command?22:49
vltangs: Basically to print a line.22:50
angsthanks22:50
jostenljt: will that apply to all users added this point foward?22:50
ljtjosten: no22:50
ljtjosten: do the same thing for /etc/skel22:51
jostenljt: that will?22:51
ljt/etc/skel (skeleton directory - is copied when new users are added to make their home dir)22:51
devsysvlt: thanks that got me going22:51
mirakvlt, /dev/md0 device is there , but if i do mdadm --run /dev/md0 it says CREATE group disk not found. failed to run array  input/output error22:52
meerkatsikonia, somebody just suggested to rename the .trash folder, what would be its consequences?22:52
ljtjosten: so yes that will if you apply those permissions to /etc/skel22:52
vltlessshaste: Yes, vncserver is one option.22:52
mirakvlt LVs are not started, since the raid is not22:52
ikoniameerkats: try it22:52
lessshastevlt, would you recommend it over teamviewer say?22:52
ikoniameerkats: it won't make a difference to the command line22:52
vltlessshaste: I use it everyday (and I don’t know teamviewer).22:53
GhostConnanyone know how to add coverflow to gmusicbrowser22:53
vltmirak: `cat /proc/mdstat`22:53
ikoniaGhostConn: does it support it ?22:53
lessshastevlt, ok thanks22:53
Scott_ZIs there a channel for newbies?22:53
lessshastevlt, what is your view of tigervnc?22:53
jostenljt: haven't used linux since Mandriva (maybe 4 yrs).  I love unbuntu, just want privacy.  Thanks a lot for your help.  You'll see me back on.22:53
ikoniaScott_Z: you can ask new questions here22:54
vltScott_Z: Right here.22:54
ljtjosten: just be aware changing perms on your home dir can have some negative effects22:54
mirakvlt, it says  md0 : incactive sda2[2](S)22:54
jostenljt: such as?22:54
GhostConnnope lol the media player isn't even supported22:54
Blue1hmm I have no icons after the last kernel update..22:54
ikoniaGhostConn: why are you trying to use all these applications that are unsupported, then asking how to make unsupported features supported ?22:54
ikoniaGhostConn: why not just use applications that are mature that work as you want them to22:55
vltlessshaste: I use the vnc4server and xvnc4viewer package. Caution: There’s a bug in the 11.10 viewer version (which you would’t use connecting from a Windows machine).22:55
ljtjosten: not all daemons run as root for security reasons, one example is apache, if using the module userdir (host files from your home directory) it wouldn't have permissions to do so22:55
Scott_ZI have a program that is only available in windows that I use all the time. Is there a way to emulate it?22:56
lessshastevlt, ok thanks. I will look for those22:56
mirakvlt, any idea ?22:56
collinjsimpsonScott_Z, 'wine'22:56
angswhy is ubuntu the most used linux OS?22:56
GhostConnbecause ther's no media player with a coverflow interface.. i knopw allot of people use gmusicbrowser i though someone might know22:56
ljtjosten: so any processes running as non-priveleged users will be blocked from your home dir22:56
Scott_Zwill it handle memory resident programs?ubuntu22:56
ikoniaGhostConn you just said gmusicbrowser doesn't support cover flow ?22:56
ljtjosten: it may not be an issue in your situation tho, just worth being aware of :)22:56
vltmirak: The “(S)” part looks as if it’s considered a spare drive … hmmm.22:56
meerkatsikonia, forgive the insistence: inside .Trash-1000 there are 3 folders: what if I just select files, cut it somewhere else and rename "music", and use rythmbox to sort all 4000 files by author and year? would there be any information missing?22:56
mirakvlt what ?22:57
collinjsimpsonScott_Z, yes22:57
ikoniaGhostConn: Grhythembox has a coverflow plugin22:57
GhostConnill check it22:57
ikoniameerkats: I'll say it one more time "the files have NOT changed". Anything that was in the files before you moved them to trash will still be there22:57
ikoniaGhostConn: sorry "rhythmbox"22:57
jostenljt: I am admin.  I just want my wife not looking at my files.  I'm not planning to run a web server as of yet, but it's just an install away.  I've had ubuntu for maybe 3 weeks, so I won't loose much.22:58
GhostConnbut it wont work with 11:10 i have already tried and had someone guide me with that plugin22:58
ikoniaGhostConn: documentation suggests it will work22:58
vltmirak: I don’t know what the “(S)” stands for. Either “spare” or just “stopped”.22:58
miraki hope it's stopped22:58
jostenljt: everything I do is on my user account thought...I know that much so far.22:59
meerkatsthx ikonia22:59
GhostConnikonia the plug in you are referring to is it called artflow?22:59
Scott_Zcollinjsimpson, there are several versions available, I get the idea of the latest version number(1.3) but do i need any of the "compatibility layer (meta package)" things?23:00
ikoniaGhostConn: yes23:00
collinjsimpsonScott_Z, yes.23:00
ljtjosten: you should be fine then :). you may be running as a privileged user, but not all software on your comp does - if it's your personal machine (and not a server) it's probs a non-issue so just ignore me :P23:01
ljtjosten: have fun using ubuntu :D23:01
Scott_ZCollinjsimpson, Does it do somekind of sudo windows registry? My software requires entries in the registry?23:02
GhostConni downloaded the plug in and copied to to the plugins directory for rhythmbox and once i started the plugin it came up with a message stating artflow is unsupported from 11:0423:02
mirakvlt, maybe i should do something like mdadm --create /dev/sda2 missing ?23:02
collinjsimpsonScott_Z, Yes. It has it's own registry. Look at the documentation.23:02
ikoniaGhostConn: documentation doesn't suggest that, but I've not looked into it in massive detail23:02
Scott_Zsorry to bug you with all the newbie questions. I will download now and try. Thanks for the help23:02
ikoniaScott_Z: it's no bother, everyone learns from somewhere23:03
GhostConnunderstandable meh ill just deal with gmusicbrowser it supports all my media properly which i like.. easy to use interface just lacking cover flow23:03
teageHi guys, How do I fix this .....aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32........23:03
collinjsimpsonScott_Z, Not a problem. Good luck!23:04
teagesame thing when I run apt-get23:04
jostenljt: I am the admin, but everything I do like internet clients like now, I user my standard user account.23:04
_johnnyteage: are you running a mix of 64 and 32bit ?23:04
zykotick9_johnny: that would be my guess ;)23:04
mirakvlt, you are right, it have the spare status23:04
miraki am fucked23:04
GhostConnany good free linux/unix courses online?23:04
ikoniamirak: tone down the language23:05
ikoniaGhostConn: nothing to do with ubuntu so offtopic for this channel23:05
teage_johnny: Yes, after this little miss hap I would just rather do without the 32bit23:05
_johnnyhi, i'm trying to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 10.10, but it keeps insisting that: "The package 'update-manager-core' is marked for removal but it is in  the removal blacklist.", any ideas?23:05
jostenljt: I wouldn't ignore you for anything.  You're helping me. Could you type that command in again with the spacing.  Thanks a lot again!!23:05
zykotick9_johnny: before you update to 10.10, realize if you wait until 12.04 is released, you can to the jump from 10.04->12.04 (the other way, you'll have to upgrade to every version in between 10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10->12.0423:06
_johnnyI know, but I have to upgrade from 10.0423:07
zykotick9_johnny: i think you mean "I have to downgrade from 10.04" ;)23:08
GhostConnikonia.. I have a good question lol... I have a asus crosshair mothboard which has two lan connections to use nforse. With windows i can set one for upload and one for download is there a linux driver23:08
_johnnyzykotick9: that would be a very odd way to get to 11.10 :)23:08
mirko1side question: perhaps slightly OT: what happens to the Gnome desktop on a 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade. hadn't the mood to try it yet.23:08
ikoniaGhostConn: nforce has solid support in linux, it's included in the kernel, it's called "Afterdeath"23:08
zykotick9_johnny: lol, i'd consider 10.04->11.10 a downgrade (but that's just me)23:08
nibbler_GhostConn, one for up onde for download? that sounds more than strange to me23:09
ikonianibbler_: it's nonsense, I'm ignoring it, but the cards are supported23:09
_johnnywell, then how do i downgrade from 10.04 to 11.10 when i keep getting the update-manager-core marked for removal?23:09
nibbler_GhostConn, 1) you have hardly any controll about which way any incoming packet would take (if you ingore lacp)23:09
nibbler_ikonia, ack23:10
GhostConni can either bridge two connections or if I have both plugged into my router with the nforse drive in windows I could choose which port would upload or download. Now every time I start my computer with linux I have to disable both connections and only leave one on23:11
waters33637QUESTION: I have a headless ubuntu 11.10 box that keeps turning off on me everyday ... how would i start to track down this problem? It also has webmin installed23:12
zykotick9!webmin | waters3363723:13
ubottuwaters33637: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.23:13
teage_johnny: My archives folder has never been cleared, You think maybe doing dpkg -i *.deb would maybe install or correct my problem?23:13
GhostConni have a 8mb connection and used bitcommet with windows and i could reach up to 5mbps dl speeds with transmission i only hit 2mb tops i don't understand I tried the exact same torrent with both applications23:13
waters33637ubottu ... do we have a replacement?23:13
ubottuwaters33637: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:13
_johnnyELF problems are usually because you're trying to use something which was compiled for 32bit on a 64bit OS (or vice versa)23:14
_johnnyteage:23:14
teage_johnny: how would I uninstall all my 32bit apps. Completely23:14
helloubuntuuHello, is there any program to create a customised ubuntu distribution? (changing wallpaper, apt sources, programs)23:14
Coreywaters33637: Check the logs, see if a shutdown is being triggered, if a thermal event is being reported,etc.23:15
teage_johnny: without graphic package manager cause it dont work.23:15
Coreywaters33637: Could also be a BIOS setting, but that's less likely.23:15
waters33637corey - .. what logs should i look closely at?23:15
Corey!logs | waters3363723:15
ubottuwaters33637: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/23:15
CoreyER.23:15
CoreyWHoops.23:15
Coreywaters33637: /var/log/* is a good place to start.23:16
waters33637lol ... ok ... thanks23:16
zykotick9teage: 1) are you on 11.10?  2) what is output of "dpkg --print-architecture"23:16
_johnnyteage: are you running 64bit?23:16
teagezykotick9: nope. LTS lucid23:16
teage_johnny: yes23:17
GhostConnis there a better alternative to transmission ?23:17
_johnnyzykotick9: what does 11.10 have to do with it? :p23:17
KM0201GhostConn: i believe utorrent has a linux version.. but i doubt transmission is your issue.23:17
zykotick9_johnny: 11.10 has the multiarch, so you have 32 and 64 bit packages on the same system23:18
_johnnysweet23:18
_johnnyand you're telling me not to upgrade :p23:18
zykotick9_johnny: so far, no really ;)23:18
teagezykotick9: anything over lucid does not play well with my old beat up lappy. when i upgrad it will be with a new computer23:18
GhostConni know its not transmission its because i dont have both wired connections enabled  I get no connection if i do23:19
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llamahawkI am trying to get Wireshark running but according to it there are no interfaces avaliable for capture23:19
llamahawkadvice?23:19
zykotick9llamahawk: are you starting it with "gksudo wireshark"23:19
GhostConnhow would i bride two wired connections23:20
llamahawkzykotick9 i am usinga GUI23:21
ljtllamahawk: you need to be the root user to access network interfaces23:21
llamahawkshould i start it with root power23:21
zykotick9llamahawk: only if you want it to work23:21
llamahawkaww i see23:21
llamahawkill give it a try thx23:21
_johnnyok, this is really starting to get on my nerves. keeps saying update-manager-core is marked for remoal. guess i'll try to dvd upgrade..23:21
zykotick9_johnny: fyi the dvd can't be used for upgrading (you need an alternative cd for that)23:22
ljtlahwran: you can edit the shortcut and prepend gksudo23:22
zykotick9!alternative | _johnny23:22
ubottu_johnny: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal23:22
llamahawkljt, zykotick9: thx im up and running. I def need to get use to using root again23:22
ljtlahwran: oops sorry autocomplete fail23:22
teageIm installing all them packages in my archives folder, will see if it works.23:22
_johnnyzorx: yeah, sorry, that's what i meant :)23:22
_johnnyzykotick9: even. http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso ;)23:23
Scott_Zhow do i open a console window?23:28
teageI thinks its gonna work, I got firefox back so far23:29
aboudreaultlooks like start-stop-daemon is waiting that my process finish?23:29
_johnnyzykotick9: lol, what the... it still complaints over update-manager-core, even when installing from the cd..23:31
ljtScott_Z: ctrl - alt - t23:32
Scott_Zljt, thanks23:32
zykotick9_johnny: ahhh, sorry i have no suggestions.  I don't personally think ubuntu should every be updated, to many issues.  Best of luck.23:32
_johnnyok, thanks23:33
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Scott_Zwhat is the default root password?23:39
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zykotick9!root | Scott_Z23:39
ubottuScott_Z: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:39
wyldeScott_Z: there isn't one23:39
_johnnythere is no spoon?23:40
Scott_ZI am running a livecd version, trying things out. I need to do an su root and it is asking for a password. I tried root, leaving it blank, and ubuntu.23:40
wyldebahahaha @ The Matrix reference. :)23:40
_johnny:(23:40
zykotick9Scott_Z: try "sudo -i" instead23:40
zykotick9Scott_Z: fyi, if you claim to need root (in ubuntu), probably means you are doing something wrong...23:41
Scott_Zsudo -i worked.. thanks23:41
myzi want ot know, if there are two default routes in the routing table, which one the kernel use??23:46
nibbler_myz, ECMP, you never know23:46
nibbler_myz, unless you do some iproute2 stuff23:46
nibbler_myz, or set different metrics23:47
myzyes, you are right, it is about the metrics23:48
exzqioallo'23:49
OsamaObamaWhat is the default firewall?23:57
Daekdroom!ufw | OsamaObama23:58
ubottuOsamaObama: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.23:58
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OsamaObamaDaekdroom: Where is the firewall inbuilt? What is the name of it?23:59

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